The proper lesson of this clip is not about politics, national or international. Its not about conspiricys or diplomatic intrique. Its about the folly of telling a man who has lost a large part of himself, his body or his spirit or both, that it was for nothing. Don't do that, its as stupid now as it was then.
Disgusting leftist pro-war propaganda. People would rather more people die than even consider the possibility that America could enter into a war that we have no business in. The same attitudes persist today and cause death and suffering at home and abroad. Apparently what that guy lost his arms defending was the Soviets, because he certainly didn't believe in freedom.
Americans were proud of "our boys" during World War II, and this film depicted that patriotism faithfully. Regardless of why we enter into war and our own opinions about it, we must support the military men and women who are fighting - before, during and after.
@Merlin5by5 Hi, fuckfaceTony. I know you are a cretin but I thought even you would have worked out by now that you are toast. You don't get to insult others any more or attempt to make fun of people. WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU LIKE. WE KNOW YOUR CRIMINAL RECORD AND YOU ARE NOT FIT TO LICK THE BOOTS OF ANY OTHER POSTER ON HERE, NO MATTER WHICH SIDE THEY ARE ON, (but especially truth seekers).
Stickey should have had his ass kicked. Threw Fred RIGHT under the bus the draft dodgin little imp. Ass kisser, I hope MIDWAY Drug company wised up about this fella. Bad news I tell ya.
And here in 1946, after five long and apparently painful years for him having been clearly wrong (it's called reality), this smug "just read the facts" pedantic paranoid has the gall to call not only someone who served and suffered for his country (as well as every countless servicemen who did the same) a "sucker". And yet, this bottom feeder has the audacity to parade around town with a flag pin. Amazing how certain strains of delusional creepy thought still exist.
What the poster seems to not understand is that this fellow at the lunch counter represents an individual pretty much discredited after December 7th and Hitler's declaration of war on the U.S. a few days later. He represents and is meant to personify the delusional isolationist America First movement. A bottom feeder of the first order who applauded Charles "Mr. America First" Lindbergh's overt racism and calls for America to muster it's strength NOT against Nazism, but against those notwhite.
That's just plain downright disrespectful. That guy deserved to be punched in the face. I don't care what you believe about any war or whether or not its fact or fiction, but you don't walk up to a man who lost both hands in combat and tell him that "HE DID IT FOR NO REASON!" Hell, he could have just as well walked up and slapped the poor man right in the face. The American involvement in WW2 was justified for the simple fact that it helped topple the Nazi regime. That alone makes it worthy.
Hello all.I just wanted to add that what many of you younger folks forget is,
while I would never condone violence.I understand the sailor & Captain's feeling of intence anger.You see,when we returned from the war we were given no therapy in resuming civilian life. I felt deep sorrow for my close friends that were killed. Some in a most gruesome way like my own cousin.So until you fully understand what war experiences can do to you, don't judge the sailor & Captain in this picture too harshly
@hofnerjoe Yes, sir, but at least you WON your war. We Nam vets have always been considered losers, because we didn't turn a profit. That's why the government wants to forget about us. By the way, do you like Hofner guitars? I was intrigued by your name.
How anyone can side with Fred (the soda jerk) and Homer (the sailor) in this scene amazes, frightens, sickens, and saddens me all at once. Violence and theft are *never* justifiable responses to bold or unpopular verbal statements.
This is one of those films I see as "covertly antiwar" in that, on the surface, it appeals to the mainstream WWII viewpoint (because it never could've been made otherwise), but is actually very critical of the war and its participants upon deeper analysis.
@BiffMP5 Yours is a moronic analysis. If you cannot understand the emotions, you're either (1) an absolute idiot, (2) completely lacking in any form of empathy, or (3) denying yourself in order to look "PC".
I think you just want to feel good about yourself. Well, you come off like an asshole.
There were a handful of active duty U.S. Coast Guardsman deployed to Desert Storm. I was one. I marched in both parades (D.C. and NYC). I was proud to see that the Vietnam Veterans were allowed to march with us. I was on scene at ground zero ten minutes after the second building collapsed. So you can say that I have balled up and cried, but I have seen allot over my 26 year career. A career of pain, suffering, life, death, and tears so I've seen many people cry. I wonder about your point.
This video disregards our constitution which is something that every soldier/sailor must defend. A soldier/sailor swares to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. Furthermore, the video depicts a person who was non-violent and excercised his constitutional right of freedom of speech. The sailor and soda jerck committed assault and both should be arrested, behind bars, and a civil suit should be launched against both.
@MediaMayhem thats ray teal who gets punched through a display case he was a saxophone player from new jersey who played sheriiff roy coffie on bonanza
@1998disco72 Thank you for your comment. No I'm not kidding. Homeless veterans account for one third of all homeless people in our United States. Maine ranks #1 with the largest population of homeless veterans (2,927). North Carolina ranks #6 (2269). I understand the message in the video but it is outdated. As a veteran I can say that WWI and WW2 were different wars; however, what happens to many veterans including WW1 and WW2 is both shameful and often forgotten. Propaganda hides reality.
@JamesJPond I agree about free speech but there is a thin line when you discuss this kind of issue. This guy a total douchebag who has every right to be one should note that he is talking about a hot topic. I am sure you would ball up and cry and call the ACLU because someone hurt your feelings. Yes, in this country we have free speech but, you can not yell fire in a movie theatre, this what this guy did. He deserved to get his ass handed to him.
@1998disco72 First post skipped somehow to the top of page. To continue I wonder what would have happened if a woman had replace the man next to the disabled vet. Would the outcome result in the same violent behavior? No! What about another vet who was disabled but shared the same opinion? No! You let the guy leave, avoid violent behavior, and soda jerk keeps his job and they all live happily ever after. Violence promotes violence. People are walking into schools and killing people. Get it?
@JamesJPond Thanks for this comment. I remember being shocked when I saw this scene in the movie as a child (11 or 12 years old). Though we were Jewish and my father fought in this war, I was taught that being free to express your opinion - even if it differed from the mainstream - is what this country is all about. To see this man physically attacked, his flag pin removed, was just horrifying. I was taught that we must use the power of argument to try to convince others. This was just bullying.
@JamesJPond Thanks for this comment. I remember being shocked when I saw this scene in the movie as a child (11 or 12 years old). We were Jewish and my father fought in this war but I was taught that being free to express your opinion - even if it differed from the mainstream - is what this country is all about. To see this man physically attacked, his flag pin removed, was just horrifying. I was taught that we must use the power of argument to try to convince others. This was just bullying.
@ljackier Maybe we should have let the nazis kill ALL the jews in europe, if we thought like you do. You simply don't tell a man who's lost both his hands what a sucker he was. I'd have taken that scum-sucking asshole outside and beaten the shit out of him!
@skudaarkaat1 Ok, why do you reference President Clinton? Which asshole would you take outside to beat up? Please learn how to write so that others can understand your references.
@JamesJPond Maybe, but I don't think a judge would have been too harsh in this case, do you? Nonviolent? This asshole just told the handless vet what a jerk he was for losing his hands. That's not nonviolent in my book. How would you have reacted? And how would you have reacted if you were the soda jerk who saw his friend being manhandled? When I became a civilian again after having the government drag me through Vietnam, I found it very hard to adjust. So did these guys after WW2.
@anghmho I think you answered your own questions. Have you ever heard that sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never heart me? Americans need to back away from so much violence. We have more people imprisoned than any other country in the world. As I write Japan is suffering. I too am having a tough time adjusting to civilian status. I'm sorry but I'm really not capable of making an argument at the moment. I'm unable to consider my own circumstances as Japan suffers.
@JamesJPond - We have more people imprisoned because the death penalty is pretty much off limits anymore. In other countries they have harsher punishments & those punishments are designed to discourage citizens from doing wrong and despicable acts against humanity. These harsh punishments work because people second guess themselves before they act.
We have more people imprisoned because the death penalty is pretty much off limits anymore. In other countries they have harsher punishments & those punishments are designed to discourage citizens from doing wrong and despicable acts against humanity. These harsh punishments work because people second guess themselves before they act.
@kerrybush000 You may want to revisit the death penalty in other countries. Life in prison is used in France and in many cases prisoners end up hanging themselves. Life in prison without parole is; in my opinion, a more civilized option to the death penalty. Our current prison population does not exist because there is no death penalty it exists because there is a huge gap between the haves and have not.
@anghmho your right a judge might have said the punching of ray teal through a display case was provoked maybe not enough for a criminal conviction but enough for a personal injury lawsuit since you need less evidence in a civil case and the superior doctrine of law makes an employer responsible for the actions of his employes
@JamesJPond Spoken like a typical mouthpiece. Who started the conversation? The loudmouth. Who disrespected the veterans? The loudmouth. You're entitled to your opinion, but you have no "right" to try and shove it down people's throats. This clown asked for trouble and got it. These men put their lives on the line so that pompous know-it-all could have the luxury of his mis-informed, smart-aleck "opinion." They already defended the constitution and their country. They did their duty.
@JamesJPond You are 100% right, this movie was full of subtle hints of cummunist propaganda, Ayn Rand wanted to denounce it in her HUAC testimony as a friendly witness.
My son is typing this for me. I am a Pearl Harbor AND Normandy survivor. To those of of you commenting negativley about MY generation who served during WW2.Know this,I didn't join up to see the horrors of war.,I wasonly 18 .Afterall the combat,all me & my buddies wanted to do was go home alive.After I got back. I realized what we fought for... we fought for YOU, our future children.The US may not be perfect, but I have seen Hitlers world,YOU have NOT thank God! This movie said "Thank you" to us.
You are welcome!We just did our job. I'm sure your dad would be proud you, son. I'm 88 years old, but I still get occassional nightmares.It's still hard for me to talk about the war. I saw some horrible things.I watched good friends die.This movie was the best WW2 movie made.Saw it in '47.Never let your kids forget how fortunate they are to live in this great country and remember for what and why we fought in WW2..that would be the best "thank you" I could receive.
Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations
James Madison
He who will not reason,is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not,is a slave.
Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear to be bright until they speak
Take some time to appreciate the unfathomable cruelty of this pattern. You may be grievously harmed and even permanently damaged by the actions of those who hold unanswerable power.
It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.Decouvertes
It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world.
This is an example of war propaganda. Hollywood has been molding the collective opinion of the American public since the beginning through monopolized propaganda. Thank God for the internet.
Unfortunately, his 400 shipmates were a bunch of suckers. They, along with every other military man, is a sucker. They are not fighting wars for patriotism, freedom, or their fellow countrymen, they are fighting war for their government... This video is "deep" in the sense that it highlights the ignorance that has plagued this country for at least the last century.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw this. And if I were Fred's (the soda jerk) employer, I'd immediately get on the phone and start calling other local businesses to warn them about his violent temperament. "Greatest Generation" my foot.
The Japs had it coming. How dare they respond to an embargo by the United States. Just b/c it was traditionally classified as an act of war. And of course we had to ally with Stalin, Hitler killed so many of his own men. Sure Stalin was definitley worse, but come on
Amazing how Americans were duped into fighting to protect the colonial empires of the French, English and Dutch. Also amazing that they agreed to support the murderous Soviets. Yes, it was all one big lie and most Americans love lies.
I tend to support the side of the guy who says America was tricked into the war. Hollyweird here is presenting the usual propaganda that it was just fine to team up with the USSR and that Germany had no right to object to the Treaty of Versailles which abused the country badly. All the exaggerated holocaust stuff (yes, exaggerated) came later in a n effort to try and pretend there was a reason for going to war. The real reason was that Keynesian idiots think wars end depressions.
Love it. Good thing that more and more Americans are coming to understand that War is a racket for the war profiteers. Typical dumb fluoride drinking sheeple gets told to look at the facts and can only spout off the propaganda. It's amazing that even back then they had intelligent Americans that knew that we had been manipulated into WWII. We are currently spending $1 Trillion a year for a war on a group of men running around the desert with rifles, show me who's making the money from this.
This is pretty typical. The "conspiracy theorist" is saying don't listen to me, look at the facts; and the righteous nationalists are so loyal that they resort to bullying and violence rather than here what they don't want to. And this movie propaganda treats the latter as the rational and virtuous. Pathetic
@Mises85 The "facts" ? Ya mean socialist propaganda in those days ! As for the nutjob getting smacked, he DESERVED IT ! What is pathetic is the slaughter of millions of people by the Nazis, Fascist Italians, Russian communists, the wholesale murder by the Japs !!! What these men did to defeat those barbarians was heroic. Also pathetic = YOU , for being on the side of the nutjob instead of standing up for those men and the USA...cretin !
We fought Hitler and got Stalin. We fought Tojo and got Mao. The difference was hardly worth the sacrifice The Jews? We could have bought them all from Hitler for a the cost of a few ships and planes. We could have contained the Nazis and Imperial Japanese with the bomb, just as we contained the communists. The Brits? They are 50% of my ancestry, but not my problem.
@SuperJoeAnonymous That nutjob was defending monsters that murdered millions of people. If he wanted to insult the honor of the warriors who fought that war , then he's lucky he only got punched once...I'd have beat him sensless for insulting MY honor !
Go back to the sandbox , y'all ain't ready for adult concepts yet !
I believe it was the soldiers defending the murdering monsters - those murderers being the Communist - and the anti-war guy at the counter was defending the lives of Americans.
Get gets involved in a war based on common beliefs, accepts them based on authority, and decides to kick the crap out of anyone who says "look into it further". Nothing has changed.
I wouldn't say that. When the dumbest generation tried to march their children off to war in the 1960s it didn't go well at all and today no one would dream of trying to Draft Gen-X and Gen-Y.
And, as the years pass, the "Good War" loses more and more of its gloss as the truth slowly comes out.
@KSB26 "no one would dream of trying to Draft Gen-X and Gen-Y"
You might want to revisit that thought if the USS Harry S. Truman has a rendezvous with a Mach 2.9 SS-NX-26.
What I wonder is are we observing in world events conspiracy or incompetence.? Look at your day-to-day experience and what do you see? Incompetence, right? So why would it be any different behind closed doors?
Will 1,000's of sailors be positioned like Pearl Harbor sitting ducks?
I'm not sure how that would play out. On one hand "Remember the Maine" type events do whip Americans into a war frenzy, but on the other large defeats overseas tend to blunt military adventure. Vietnam made the US swear off foreign wars for 15 years and French losses in Indochina and Algeria propelled Isolationist leaders into power in France.
There are still plenty of baby boomers who remember their friends being drafted and dieing for lies. A draft today would be a tough sale.
The more things change the more they remain the same, those right wing dead-heads are still around, I never get tired of seeing this part of "The Best Years of our Lives", seeing that creep get socked in the jaw was the best part of the movie.
I MEAN RIGHT OR WRONG AND EVERYONE HAS A OPNION,IT IS A FREE COUNTRY,BUT TO SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO A PERSON WHO WENT THROUGH IT IS JUST WRONG THE FOR OR AGAINST THE WAR YOU HAVE TO HAVE RESPECT FOR SOLDIERS WHO SEE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T IMAGINE.
@appleandhoneyspice My brother and I are both Vietnam survivors, and we both feel now that it was a wrong war. Our political beliefs differ, but both of us believe that no wars following Vietnam have been justified. Not so WW2; we were pushed into that one. If I had been that soda jerk with the handless friend being manhandled, I would have pushed that asshole's teeth down his throat. If you disagree, I can only answer that you have not been in combat. And that from a non-violent Christian.
@anghmho I disagree with you, but I certainly respect your view. I saw too many atrocities over there in 16 months to think we SHOULDN'T have been there. When a race of people think that they can come into your town and FORCE you to join the North VietNamese Army or the VC, That's completely wrong! What we did wrong, I think, was going over there at the behest of the Government instead of the people and letting Diem and Ngu come over here with $20,000,000.00 of stolen money.
@skudaarkaat1 I'll tell you why I don't think we should have been there: They never stopped coming at us, that's why. While you're there, you just want to stop them because you want to stay alive, but later you ask yourself why they never stopped coming. Because they had centuries of oppression. At the end of WW2, colonial powers tried to restore their power, and the French were among the worst. If the Vietnamese had received their freedom then, I think you would have been spared what you saw.
This guy belongs in the Democrat Party of today--the party of middle-aged conspiracy theorists who still live both IN mom's basement and OFF her teat.
@fochilin how true...and to think, if JFK were alive today, he'd be considered a right wing nut-job by the leftists in the democratic party, which is virtually all of them..
Great Movie and enlightening scene... even after WWII..... there were idiots who were against the war and believed in conspiracies... Puts the left's abject objections to the Iraq war in perspective...
You're a moron. Once your liberties have been swallowed by the Fascist Left, you will be the first one moaning and groaning. Guys like you make me ill.
Thanks for parading your ignorance of political studies... Fascist Left?? I think you need more than Rush and FOX informing you. You let your beliefs trump the actual events you're seeing. You have fewer liberties because of the doings of the previous Adminstration. The one you voted for, twice.
Don't worry about the GOP being killed off by the left.. The GOP could very well disappear, but not from outside forces. It will be by self-inflicted mortal wounds. Read about the Whigs.
FASCISM: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
You're right (AGAIN). What is going on in DC doesn't sound like fascism at all!!!
GREAT VIDEO showing how easily deluded right-wingers were back in 1946! Showing the same tendency to violence then too. ANOTHER CHIP IN THE WIDENING CRACK OF THE GOP'S MELTDOWN!
I would give anthing to live back in the simple days liek this. You could tell it up front to someone's face, straight like it is, and then kick some serious ass. Solid with respect!
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catbird007 said
the comment was not made for me....lol
LMAO you need to make your own quotes and stop using quotes that were made for another time and another situation. If Mark Twain were alive today he would really knock the shit out of GWB. LOL Ja Ja Ja LOL Jesus, I can't stop laughing at your bullshit. What kind of mediocre crap are you guys going to come up with 4 years from now?
The way I look at it, the guy with the flag pin said we fought the wrong people and he's a false patriot. Bush had us fight the wrong people and he wears a flag pin. Bush's grandfather was actually caught trading with the Nazis. The implication is that this guy thinks the Democrats were radicals and we had no reason to fight the Nazis a conservative position. Some conservatives also believe that FDR caused Pearl Harbor. Anyways, Vets don't make policy they follow orders. God Bless Our Troops!
The sad thing is that GWB did not make America safe. 2500 died on 9/11, over 4000 died in Iraq plus 30,000 WIA, 1/3 with brain injuries. When you are dead or maimed it makes no difference whether it occurred here or in Iraq. God bless our troops, but use them wisely. GWB should have stayed focused on Afghanistan.
With hine sight being 20/20 I quess we all can be arm chair generals . Mark twain wrote; War is such a simple thing when fought from the comfort of a warm chair and a glass of brandy in hand
With hine sight being 20/20 I quess we all can be arm chair generals .
Mark twain wrote; War is such a simple thing when fought from the comfort of a warm chair and a glass of brandy in hand
Amazing it took you three weeks to come up with this drivel, James Bond you are not. Four years from now, no one but a few dead heads is going to remember GWB, but mostly everyone will remember that his father knew where to draw a line, when it came to Iraq.
Well danny I cannot take credit for that "drivel" you spoke of,because it was Mark Twain that first penned that observation on critics. James Bond is a fictional character much like Tom sawyer or Huck Finn or better yet The reflection in the mirror that looks back at you every morning
That's the coolest scene in whole film. when the guy with the hooks picks up the American flag pin and then puts it in his coat pocket close to his heart....
WWII was an actual fight to save not just our freedom, but world wide humanity and decency. A barbaric, bloodthirsty, genocidal, madman was taking over the world. He had successfully formed like minded and powerful alliances, and they were winning.
That was the last US military engagement with such a justified cause. What has followed since have been lie based invasions for MIC/corporate profit. Not ONE has been a fight for our freedom. That's not "conspiracy theory"-it's fact.
The cover story for Korea and Nam was to "stop the spread of communism", aka the domino theory. The Berlin Wall fell on its own, the Soviet Union collapsed under its own weight, and the US is in bed with Red China. Nam and Korea are still divided and we had ZERO to do with that.
We went to Afghanistan to find Bin Laden. He's no longer in the news but the troops are still there guarding a Haliburton oil pipeline. WMDs NEVER found in Iraq. Record oil and war profits. Millions dead. Wake up.
Nam is not divided, it's under full communist control because we pulled out, South Korea is now a successful nation because we didn't.
"We went to Afghanistan to find Bin Laden." no duh, AND to overthrow the Taliban which we did, NOW they want to take over again, which is why we are still there.
"WMDs NEVER found in Iraq."
Wow, genius, I would have never thought that. Was the battle of Fallujah over WMDs?
Your lack of accurate information is only surpassed by the volume of Pentagon caliber propaganda you spew. "Wars cost money, they don't make money", "millions dead. Where did I get that number?" That says it all. Obviously Eisenhower's admonishment to the nation in his farewell address warning of the "Military Industrial Complex" is too complex for you to grasp. Equally obvious is your typical hawk like disregard for the MILLIONS of civilian casualties. I'll leave you to your ignorance. I'm out.
Well if you can't show me the source of the figure "millions dead" I must assume you are making it up.
"Obviously Eisenhower's admonishment to the nation in his farewell address warning of the "Military Industrial Complex" is too complex for you to grasp."
And this proves your point how? We supposedly cant grasp it but you can? Eisenhower to prove your point is odd considering the Eisenhower Doctrine is just an extension of the Truman Doctrine.(The justification for Nam and Korea)
I'd have knocked his block off too. I had a cousin with hooks like those. Watching him struggle with ignorant people showed just how much courage a person can have.
There is a certain group of people who say/said we were "fighting the wrong side" & they're called Neo-Nazis. Google it.
This character was likely a stand in for pre-war isolationists, whose position then was summed up as "America First", that or he was a Nazi sympathizer.
PS Russians woulda lost w/out the equipment we sent them. US Industrial power won WW2. Google it. Also: deal with it.
I don't think this guy was even a conspiracy theorist, he may of been a facist sympathiser, and was just anti-war. Roosevelt did do some things before Pearl Harbor from what I understand, but looking at today, they were all our enemies sooner or later, so I don't think it matters anymore.
I would have to agree with the comment below, and I don't think this video has to do with the 'liberal' and 'conservative' perspectives, whatever those are (I vote for whoever is more sensible). The man that is the conspiracy theorist is actually a conservative, since Democrats were the ones starting World War I, World War 2, Korea, Vietnam, etc. Conservatives were known to end wars or be isolationists in those days.
However we got into world war 2, it would of involved us in the long run, especially if the Japanese and Germans got more powerful. To comment on conspiracy: I think ordinary people don't want to know anything, its that they want to prove themselves for any reason, and that action is all to live for. That is why leaders tell people what to do, and it is quite necessary to follow what they say, since they know more than we can.
That clip is the perfect propagandist crap peddled (obviosly) every time the public shows the slightest incling of waking up. As if Roosevelt DIDN'T severely hamper Japanese economic interests prior to Pearl Harbor, to get a reaction from them. As if the Germans DIDN'T advertise any ship going near threatened waters would be sunk. Are we that stupid? Will we just demand to be sheep?
leftist and there conspiracy theories !! the left said pearl harbor was an inside job , now they say 911 was an inside job by the super genious Bush crime family who hid the Jumbo jet that never flew into pentagon, and sent a missle into it , and he rigged the voting machines !! and leftist could never find enough evidence to convict Bush , LOL , conspiracy theories are so Gay !
I myself am quite liberal you seem to have grouped me with 9/11 and Pearl harbour Conspiracy theorists, Just becareful, thats the kind of carelessness the 9/11 Twoofers show
After all looking at the facts is pretty scary. Its easier to be locked into your own perception of what happen to you and what you saw. After all its not like eugenics was sponsored by Rockefeller, its not like George Herbert Walker Bush and Brown Brothers and Hariman laundered nazi gold. After all the facts are scary, so lets get down to the fistacuffs. Oh yeah that type of ignorance went away with the 1950's
Thanks Tralman, saw that old movie on TNT was a great movie then, is a great movie now. Yep, the liberals in this country are trying to get us all killed while they "support" our troops.
actually he represented the arch conservative of the day... good ole sheriff coffey from bananza "just read the facts, my friend" lol one of the best movies made..
It's especially warped and galling that Fred orders the VICTIM of Homer's vicious assault to stand down, then attacks him himself. Fred's unfaithful wife has my sympathy.
Fast-forward a few weeks to Fred and Homer being served papers for battery and losing hundreds in court. Nothing less than they deserve.
I guess the lousy liberals of today think that our soldiers are a bunch of suckers fighting in Iraq. What a bunch of gutless wonders the America hating libs are! Nothing changes......
The proper lesson of this clip is not about politics, national or international. Its not about conspiricys or diplomatic intrique. Its about the folly of telling a man who has lost a large part of himself, his body or his spirit or both, that it was for nothing. Don't do that, its as stupid now as it was then.
Thelastminstrel 1 week ago
Disgusting leftist pro-war propaganda. People would rather more people die than even consider the possibility that America could enter into a war that we have no business in. The same attitudes persist today and cause death and suffering at home and abroad. Apparently what that guy lost his arms defending was the Soviets, because he certainly didn't believe in freedom.
ArcoFlagellant 1 month ago
Americans were proud of "our boys" during World War II, and this film depicted that patriotism faithfully. Regardless of why we enter into war and our own opinions about it, we must support the military men and women who are fighting - before, during and after.
DickieAnginson 4 months ago
that must have gripped your gut in 1947 too bad the movies deceive through emotion.
up2space 6 months ago
WELCOME to the 9/11 Twoof Movement, 60 years ago.
Same old crap as the man at the counter.
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CalumGilhooly 3 months ago
The Best Years of Our Lives a great great movie.
1001erickp 9 months ago
It's a liberal.
Sage80 10 months ago
So is that what you teach your children. Anytime somebody expresses an opinion that differs you shove them into the glass case. Thats a bad lesson.
JamesJPond 10 months ago
Stickey should have had his ass kicked. Threw Fred RIGHT under the bus the draft dodgin little imp. Ass kisser, I hope MIDWAY Drug company wised up about this fella. Bad news I tell ya.
Wa3ypx 1 year ago
Straight scatter-brained Ayn Rand-branded delusion.
MsEDww 1 year ago
And here in 1946, after five long and apparently painful years for him having been clearly wrong (it's called reality), this smug "just read the facts" pedantic paranoid has the gall to call not only someone who served and suffered for his country (as well as every countless servicemen who did the same) a "sucker". And yet, this bottom feeder has the audacity to parade around town with a flag pin. Amazing how certain strains of delusional creepy thought still exist.
MsEDww 1 year ago
What the poster seems to not understand is that this fellow at the lunch counter represents an individual pretty much discredited after December 7th and Hitler's declaration of war on the U.S. a few days later. He represents and is meant to personify the delusional isolationist America First movement. A bottom feeder of the first order who applauded Charles "Mr. America First" Lindbergh's overt racism and calls for America to muster it's strength NOT against Nazism, but against those notwhite.
MsEDww 1 year ago
That's just plain downright disrespectful. That guy deserved to be punched in the face. I don't care what you believe about any war or whether or not its fact or fiction, but you don't walk up to a man who lost both hands in combat and tell him that "HE DID IT FOR NO REASON!" Hell, he could have just as well walked up and slapped the poor man right in the face. The American involvement in WW2 was justified for the simple fact that it helped topple the Nazi regime. That alone makes it worthy.
reverb478 1 year ago
@reverb478 THANK YOU!!!
skudaarkaat1 11 months ago
Hello all.I just wanted to add that what many of you younger folks forget is,
while I would never condone violence.I understand the sailor & Captain's feeling of intence anger.You see,when we returned from the war we were given no therapy in resuming civilian life. I felt deep sorrow for my close friends that were killed. Some in a most gruesome way like my own cousin.So until you fully understand what war experiences can do to you, don't judge the sailor & Captain in this picture too harshly
hofnerjoe 1 year ago
@hofnerjoe Yes, sir, but at least you WON your war. We Nam vets have always been considered losers, because we didn't turn a profit. That's why the government wants to forget about us. By the way, do you like Hofner guitars? I was intrigued by your name.
skudaarkaat1 11 months ago
How anyone can side with Fred (the soda jerk) and Homer (the sailor) in this scene amazes, frightens, sickens, and saddens me all at once. Violence and theft are *never* justifiable responses to bold or unpopular verbal statements.
This is one of those films I see as "covertly antiwar" in that, on the surface, it appeals to the mainstream WWII viewpoint (because it never could've been made otherwise), but is actually very critical of the war and its participants upon deeper analysis.
BiffMP5 1 year ago
@BiffMP5 Yours is a moronic analysis. If you cannot understand the emotions, you're either (1) an absolute idiot, (2) completely lacking in any form of empathy, or (3) denying yourself in order to look "PC".
I think you just want to feel good about yourself. Well, you come off like an asshole.
Michellekai79 8 months ago
@Michellekai79
Always a pleasure to offend one of your persuasion.
BiffMP5 3 months ago
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this was the first scene I liked in this film. It's a great movie.
themegatron14 1 year ago
There were a handful of active duty U.S. Coast Guardsman deployed to Desert Storm. I was one. I marched in both parades (D.C. and NYC). I was proud to see that the Vietnam Veterans were allowed to march with us. I was on scene at ground zero ten minutes after the second building collapsed. So you can say that I have balled up and cried, but I have seen allot over my 26 year career. A career of pain, suffering, life, death, and tears so I've seen many people cry. I wonder about your point.
JamesJPond 1 year ago
this film was the first that made me feel grateful that I have arms and any other parts of my body. the actors are great and the movie is amazing.
themegatron14 1 year ago
This video disregards our constitution which is something that every soldier/sailor must defend. A soldier/sailor swares to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. Furthermore, the video depicts a person who was non-violent and excercised his constitutional right of freedom of speech. The sailor and soda jerck committed assault and both should be arrested, behind bars, and a civil suit should be launched against both.
JamesJPond 1 year ago
@JamesJPond
Great comment! There is nothing better than folks with a good sense of humor!
MediaMayhem 1 year ago
@MediaMayhem thats ray teal who gets punched through a display case he was a saxophone player from new jersey who played sheriiff roy coffie on bonanza
spacepatrolman 1 year ago
@JamesJPond you have got to be kidding me!
1998disco72 1 year ago
@1998disco72 Thank you for your comment. No I'm not kidding. Homeless veterans account for one third of all homeless people in our United States. Maine ranks #1 with the largest population of homeless veterans (2,927). North Carolina ranks #6 (2269). I understand the message in the video but it is outdated. As a veteran I can say that WWI and WW2 were different wars; however, what happens to many veterans including WW1 and WW2 is both shameful and often forgotten. Propaganda hides reality.
JamesJPond 1 year ago
@JamesJPond I agree about free speech but there is a thin line when you discuss this kind of issue. This guy a total douchebag who has every right to be one should note that he is talking about a hot topic. I am sure you would ball up and cry and call the ACLU because someone hurt your feelings. Yes, in this country we have free speech but, you can not yell fire in a movie theatre, this what this guy did. He deserved to get his ass handed to him.
1998disco72 1 year ago
@1998disco72 First post skipped somehow to the top of page. To continue I wonder what would have happened if a woman had replace the man next to the disabled vet. Would the outcome result in the same violent behavior? No! What about another vet who was disabled but shared the same opinion? No! You let the guy leave, avoid violent behavior, and soda jerk keeps his job and they all live happily ever after. Violence promotes violence. People are walking into schools and killing people. Get it?
JamesJPond 1 year ago
@JamesJPond Thanks for this comment. I remember being shocked when I saw this scene in the movie as a child (11 or 12 years old). Though we were Jewish and my father fought in this war, I was taught that being free to express your opinion - even if it differed from the mainstream - is what this country is all about. To see this man physically attacked, his flag pin removed, was just horrifying. I was taught that we must use the power of argument to try to convince others. This was just bullying.
ljackier 1 year ago
@JamesJPond Thanks for this comment. I remember being shocked when I saw this scene in the movie as a child (11 or 12 years old). We were Jewish and my father fought in this war but I was taught that being free to express your opinion - even if it differed from the mainstream - is what this country is all about. To see this man physically attacked, his flag pin removed, was just horrifying. I was taught that we must use the power of argument to try to convince others. This was just bullying.
ljackier 1 year ago
@ljackier Maybe we should have let the nazis kill ALL the jews in europe, if we thought like you do. You simply don't tell a man who's lost both his hands what a sucker he was. I'd have taken that scum-sucking asshole outside and beaten the shit out of him!
skudaarkaat1 11 months ago
@JamesJPond Thank you, President Clinton. I'd have taken that asshole outside and THEN beaten the shit out of him!
skudaarkaat1 11 months ago
@skudaarkaat1 Ok, why do you reference President Clinton? Which asshole would you take outside to beat up? Please learn how to write so that others can understand your references.
JamesJPond 11 months ago
@JamesJPond Maybe, but I don't think a judge would have been too harsh in this case, do you? Nonviolent? This asshole just told the handless vet what a jerk he was for losing his hands. That's not nonviolent in my book. How would you have reacted? And how would you have reacted if you were the soda jerk who saw his friend being manhandled? When I became a civilian again after having the government drag me through Vietnam, I found it very hard to adjust. So did these guys after WW2.
anghmho 11 months ago
@anghmho I think you answered your own questions. Have you ever heard that sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never heart me? Americans need to back away from so much violence. We have more people imprisoned than any other country in the world. As I write Japan is suffering. I too am having a tough time adjusting to civilian status. I'm sorry but I'm really not capable of making an argument at the moment. I'm unable to consider my own circumstances as Japan suffers.
JamesJPond 11 months ago
@JamesJPond - We have more people imprisoned because the death penalty is pretty much off limits anymore. In other countries they have harsher punishments & those punishments are designed to discourage citizens from doing wrong and despicable acts against humanity. These harsh punishments work because people second guess themselves before they act.
kerrybush000 9 months ago
We have more people imprisoned because the death penalty is pretty much off limits anymore. In other countries they have harsher punishments & those punishments are designed to discourage citizens from doing wrong and despicable acts against humanity. These harsh punishments work because people second guess themselves before they act.
kerrybush000 9 months ago
@kerrybush000 You may want to revisit the death penalty in other countries. Life in prison is used in France and in many cases prisoners end up hanging themselves. Life in prison without parole is; in my opinion, a more civilized option to the death penalty. Our current prison population does not exist because there is no death penalty it exists because there is a huge gap between the haves and have not.
JamesJPond 7 months ago
@anghmho your right a judge might have said the punching of ray teal through a display case was provoked maybe not enough for a criminal conviction but enough for a personal injury lawsuit since you need less evidence in a civil case and the superior doctrine of law makes an employer responsible for the actions of his employes
spacepatrolman 7 months ago
@JamesJPond Spoken like a typical mouthpiece. Who started the conversation? The loudmouth. Who disrespected the veterans? The loudmouth. You're entitled to your opinion, but you have no "right" to try and shove it down people's throats. This clown asked for trouble and got it. These men put their lives on the line so that pompous know-it-all could have the luxury of his mis-informed, smart-aleck "opinion." They already defended the constitution and their country. They did their duty.
dougalmac54 10 months ago
@dougalmac54
so true
God bless our brave men and women of the armed forces
TheChoujinVirus 3 months ago
@JamesJPond You are 100% right, this movie was full of subtle hints of cummunist propaganda, Ayn Rand wanted to denounce it in her HUAC testimony as a friendly witness.
WarVideo 2 months ago
PS, I adore this movie, thanks for posting
teemell19 1 year ago
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watch the whole movie.
s6u6r6f6 1 year ago
My son is typing this for me. I am a Pearl Harbor AND Normandy survivor. To those of of you commenting negativley about MY generation who served during WW2.Know this,I didn't join up to see the horrors of war.,I wasonly 18 .Afterall the combat,all me & my buddies wanted to do was go home alive.After I got back. I realized what we fought for... we fought for YOU, our future children.The US may not be perfect, but I have seen Hitlers world,YOU have NOT thank God! This movie said "Thank you" to us.
hofnerjoe 1 year ago 7
@hofnerjoe This comment is the only one worth reading.
teemell19 1 year ago
@hofnerjoe I'm 53 years old. My father served in the South Pacific when he was 28-30. When I was a kid, I failed to appreciate this fact.
He died when I was just 19.
I would give anything and everything I have for the chance to look him in the eye, and tell him how much I now appreciate his sacrifice.
In lieu of that, I'll just say to you, Thank You, sir; thank you.
telejimmy57 1 year ago
@telejimmy57 (my son typing)
You are welcome!We just did our job. I'm sure your dad would be proud you, son. I'm 88 years old, but I still get occassional nightmares.It's still hard for me to talk about the war. I saw some horrible things.I watched good friends die.This movie was the best WW2 movie made.Saw it in '47.Never let your kids forget how fortunate they are to live in this great country and remember for what and why we fought in WW2..that would be the best "thank you" I could receive.
hofnerjoe 1 year ago 2
@hofnerjoe Thank you for your service, the sad thing is that too many people have forgotten!
1998disco72 1 year ago
@hofnerjoe God bless you sir. And thank you for my freedom.
WC3POchannel10A 4 days ago
and that's how they got the name Soda Jerk
HUTINAK 1 year ago
Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations
James Madison
He who will not reason,is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not,is a slave.
Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear to be bright until they speak
WarDogLRS 1 year ago
Take some time to appreciate the unfathomable cruelty of this pattern. You may be grievously harmed and even permanently damaged by the actions of those who hold unanswerable power.
It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.Decouvertes
It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world.
George Washington
WarDogLRS 1 year ago
This is an example of war propaganda. Hollywood has been molding the collective opinion of the American public since the beginning through monopolized propaganda. Thank God for the internet.
luomio 1 year ago 3
Unfortunately, his 400 shipmates were a bunch of suckers. They, along with every other military man, is a sucker. They are not fighting wars for patriotism, freedom, or their fellow countrymen, they are fighting war for their government... This video is "deep" in the sense that it highlights the ignorance that has plagued this country for at least the last century.
luomio 1 year ago 2
@luomio Amen, so very true.
ArcoFlagellant 1 month ago
If you joined since 03 your a sucker- Sorry to say
lushfauna 1 year ago
@lushfauna Pffft. More like if you joined in the last 100 years, you're a sucker.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
This is how Hollywood sells propaganda, the person telling the truth is made out to be the bad guy..
boogyman71 1 year ago 3
Huh, the soldier commits politically motivated assault and then theft.
lonanmu 1 year ago 3
@lonanmu -- that's what you get from somebody who goes out to kill people on some politician's say-so.
averros31415926 1 year ago
@lonanmu
That's exactly what I thought when I saw this. And if I were Fred's (the soda jerk) employer, I'd immediately get on the phone and start calling other local businesses to warn them about his violent temperament. "Greatest Generation" my foot.
BiffMP5 1 year ago
The Japs had it coming. How dare they respond to an embargo by the United States. Just b/c it was traditionally classified as an act of war. And of course we had to ally with Stalin, Hitler killed so many of his own men. Sure Stalin was definitley worse, but come on
snoopyflick 1 year ago
Amazing how Americans were duped into fighting to protect the colonial empires of the French, English and Dutch. Also amazing that they agreed to support the murderous Soviets. Yes, it was all one big lie and most Americans love lies.
fizmath 1 year ago 8
yea 400 of your friends died for a lie. sorry that makes you violent captain hook.
ekeyra 1 year ago
I tend to support the side of the guy who says America was tricked into the war. Hollyweird here is presenting the usual propaganda that it was just fine to team up with the USSR and that Germany had no right to object to the Treaty of Versailles which abused the country badly. All the exaggerated holocaust stuff (yes, exaggerated) came later in a n effort to try and pretend there was a reason for going to war. The real reason was that Keynesian idiots think wars end depressions.
OutlawTomFantastic 1 year ago 2
Love it. Good thing that more and more Americans are coming to understand that War is a racket for the war profiteers. Typical dumb fluoride drinking sheeple gets told to look at the facts and can only spout off the propaganda. It's amazing that even back then they had intelligent Americans that knew that we had been manipulated into WWII. We are currently spending $1 Trillion a year for a war on a group of men running around the desert with rifles, show me who's making the money from this.
rayme4raw 1 year ago 4
HOW DARE THAT GUY NOT LOVE AMERICA ENOUGH! I'M GUNNA GO WATERBOARD ME SOME ILLIGALS TO GET MY MIND AWAY FROM HIS HATRED OF THIS HERE COUNTRY.
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
JumpinJesuits 1 year ago
This is pretty typical. The "conspiracy theorist" is saying don't listen to me, look at the facts; and the righteous nationalists are so loyal that they resort to bullying and violence rather than here what they don't want to. And this movie propaganda treats the latter as the rational and virtuous. Pathetic
Mises85 1 year ago 10
@Mises85 Amen Brother!
JumpinJesuits 1 year ago
@Mises85 The "facts" ? Ya mean socialist propaganda in those days ! As for the nutjob getting smacked, he DESERVED IT ! What is pathetic is the slaughter of millions of people by the Nazis, Fascist Italians, Russian communists, the wholesale murder by the Japs !!! What these men did to defeat those barbarians was heroic. Also pathetic = YOU , for being on the side of the nutjob instead of standing up for those men and the USA...cretin !
NamVetBuck 3 months ago
Pat Buchanan says the same thing today.
We fought Hitler and got Stalin. We fought Tojo and got Mao. The difference was hardly worth the sacrifice The Jews? We could have bought them all from Hitler for a the cost of a few ships and planes. We could have contained the Nazis and Imperial Japanese with the bomb, just as we contained the communists. The Brits? They are 50% of my ancestry, but not my problem.
Skeptic121 1 year ago 2
How ironic that the defenders of "democracy" and "free speech" beat up a guy who has a differing opinion of the "good" war. Apropos for today really.
SuperJoeAnonymous 1 year ago 8
@SuperJoeAnonymous That nutjob was defending monsters that murdered millions of people. If he wanted to insult the honor of the warriors who fought that war , then he's lucky he only got punched once...I'd have beat him sensless for insulting MY honor !
Go back to the sandbox , y'all ain't ready for adult concepts yet !
NamVetBuck 3 months ago
I believe it was the soldiers defending the murdering monsters - those murderers being the Communist - and the anti-war guy at the counter was defending the lives of Americans.
ArcoFlagellant 1 month ago
Get gets involved in a war based on common beliefs, accepts them based on authority, and decides to kick the crap out of anyone who says "look into it further". Nothing has changed.
hagbard72 1 year ago 6
@hagbard72
I wouldn't say that. When the dumbest generation tried to march their children off to war in the 1960s it didn't go well at all and today no one would dream of trying to Draft Gen-X and Gen-Y.
And, as the years pass, the "Good War" loses more and more of its gloss as the truth slowly comes out.
KSB26 1 year ago 4
@KSB26 "no one would dream of trying to Draft Gen-X and Gen-Y"
You might want to revisit that thought if the USS Harry S. Truman has a rendezvous with a Mach 2.9 SS-NX-26.
What I wonder is are we observing in world events conspiracy or incompetence.? Look at your day-to-day experience and what do you see? Incompetence, right? So why would it be any different behind closed doors?
Will 1,000's of sailors be positioned like Pearl Harbor sitting ducks?
Is it a conspiracy of a given incompetence?
xearther 1 year ago
@xearther
I'm not sure how that would play out. On one hand "Remember the Maine" type events do whip Americans into a war frenzy, but on the other large defeats overseas tend to blunt military adventure. Vietnam made the US swear off foreign wars for 15 years and French losses in Indochina and Algeria propelled Isolationist leaders into power in France.
There are still plenty of baby boomers who remember their friends being drafted and dieing for lies. A draft today would be a tough sale.
KSB26 1 year ago
The more things change the more they remain the same, those right wing dead-heads are still around, I never get tired of seeing this part of "The Best Years of our Lives", seeing that creep get socked in the jaw was the best part of the movie.
dannnynieves 1 year ago
I MEAN RIGHT OR WRONG AND EVERYONE HAS A OPNION,IT IS A FREE COUNTRY,BUT TO SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO A PERSON WHO WENT THROUGH IT IS JUST WRONG THE FOR OR AGAINST THE WAR YOU HAVE TO HAVE RESPECT FOR SOLDIERS WHO SEE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T IMAGINE.
appleandhoneyspice 1 year ago
@appleandhoneyspice My brother and I are both Vietnam survivors, and we both feel now that it was a wrong war. Our political beliefs differ, but both of us believe that no wars following Vietnam have been justified. Not so WW2; we were pushed into that one. If I had been that soda jerk with the handless friend being manhandled, I would have pushed that asshole's teeth down his throat. If you disagree, I can only answer that you have not been in combat. And that from a non-violent Christian.
anghmho 1 year ago
@anghmho I disagree with you, but I certainly respect your view. I saw too many atrocities over there in 16 months to think we SHOULDN'T have been there. When a race of people think that they can come into your town and FORCE you to join the North VietNamese Army or the VC, That's completely wrong! What we did wrong, I think, was going over there at the behest of the Government instead of the people and letting Diem and Ngu come over here with $20,000,000.00 of stolen money.
skudaarkaat1 11 months ago
@skudaarkaat1 I'll tell you why I don't think we should have been there: They never stopped coming at us, that's why. While you're there, you just want to stop them because you want to stay alive, but later you ask yourself why they never stopped coming. Because they had centuries of oppression. At the end of WW2, colonial powers tried to restore their power, and the French were among the worst. If the Vietnamese had received their freedom then, I think you would have been spared what you saw.
anghmho 11 months ago
This guy belongs in the Democrat Party of today--the party of middle-aged conspiracy theorists who still live both IN mom's basement and OFF her teat.
fochilin 2 years ago 3
@fochilin how true...and to think, if JFK were alive today, he'd be considered a right wing nut-job by the leftists in the democratic party, which is virtually all of them..
gtc1961 1 year ago 2
Great Movie and enlightening scene... even after WWII..... there were idiots who were against the war and believed in conspiracies... Puts the left's abject objections to the Iraq war in perspective...
yippie21 2 years ago
Accurately Compounded
IrishLincoln 2 years ago 3
Wow: Eustace Mullins was already a film character back in 1946. Great footage!
0:49 Is that a glass of fluoridated water?
videoclog 2 years ago
"Germans and the Japs had nothing against us?"
Uh... if this guy isn't a revisionist, I don't know who is?
Plus, he's rude to my man, Dana Andrews.
This idiot would have voted for Bush four times as did most Floridians, I understand.
LazlosPlane 2 years ago 2
I liked your comment until you made the comment about the election and Bush - why go there?
coolqtmom 2 years ago 7
How will I sleep tonight?
LazlosPlane 2 years ago
thats ray teal a sax player from new jersey who played sheriff roy coffie on bonanza .
spacepatrolman 2 years ago
This movie was made in 1945 and is called "The Best Years of our lives"...one of the best movies I have ever seen.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago 6
To Death To The GOP,
You're a moron. Once your liberties have been swallowed by the Fascist Left, you will be the first one moaning and groaning. Guys like you make me ill.
why59not 2 years ago 2
Thanks for parading your ignorance of political studies... Fascist Left?? I think you need more than Rush and FOX informing you. You let your beliefs trump the actual events you're seeing. You have fewer liberties because of the doings of the previous Adminstration. The one you voted for, twice.
Don't worry about the GOP being killed off by the left.. The GOP could very well disappear, but not from outside forces. It will be by self-inflicted mortal wounds. Read about the Whigs.
casablancalover 2 years ago
Typical dim bulb response. Start off with some unfounded character assassination.
Make 6 incorrect assumptions.
1) I don't listen to Rush
2) I don't watch FOX
3) I don't identify with the GOP or the Democrats, therefore my "beliefs" are not clouding my perspective.
4 & 5) I did not vote for GWB in 2000 or 2004.
& 6) I am not at all worried about the GOP being "killed off".
Other than that you are dead on!
As for your ignorance parade, you are the only one marching. But you must be used to that.
why59not 2 years ago 11
Dear Casablanca/Condescending Intellectual Wannabe.
You don't have to argue with me.
You can argue with Webster
FASCISM: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
You're right (AGAIN). What is going on in DC doesn't sound like fascism at all!!!
why59not 2 years ago 11
GREAT VIDEO showing how easily deluded right-wingers were back in 1946! Showing the same tendency to violence then too. ANOTHER CHIP IN THE WIDENING CRACK OF THE GOP'S MELTDOWN!
DeathToTheGOP 2 years ago
Dupes like you always apologize for America's enemies.
NickB1967 2 years ago 2
I would give anthing to live back in the simple days liek this. You could tell it up front to someone's face, straight like it is, and then kick some serious ass. Solid with respect!
IrishLincoln 2 years ago
Hello Precott Bush. Hello corporations. Hello, suckers.
cochranexyz 2 years ago
Dana with the haymaker...
Brandtalones 3 years ago 2
catbird007 said
dannynieves your silly
Catbird, you cannot spell and are politically and grammatically incorrect. LOL
dannnynieves 3 years ago
catbird007 said
Well danny I cannot take credit for that "drivel" you spoke of,because it was Mark Twain that first penned that observation on critics.
James Bond is a fictional character much like Tom sawyer or Huck Finn or better yet The reflection in the mirror that looks back at you every morning
It became drivel when you used the quote.
dannnynieves 3 years ago
but it worked
catbird007 3 years ago 3
catbird007 said
but it worked
Yeah, but for who, surely not for you.
dannnynieves 3 years ago
the comment was not made for me....lol
catbird007 3 years ago 3
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catbird007 said
the comment was not made for me....lol
LMAO you need to make your own quotes and stop using quotes that were made for another time and another situation. If Mark Twain were alive today he would really knock the shit out of GWB. LOL Ja Ja Ja LOL Jesus, I can't stop laughing at your bullshit. What kind of mediocre crap are you guys going to come up with 4 years from now?
dannnynieves 3 years ago
dannynieves your silly
catbird007 3 years ago 3
The way I look at it, the guy with the flag pin said we fought the wrong people and he's a false patriot. Bush had us fight the wrong people and he wears a flag pin. Bush's grandfather was actually caught trading with the Nazis. The implication is that this guy thinks the Democrats were radicals and we had no reason to fight the Nazis a conservative position. Some conservatives also believe that FDR caused Pearl Harbor. Anyways, Vets don't make policy they follow orders. God Bless Our Troops!
Buddy212002 3 years ago
The sad thing is that GWB did not make America safe. 2500 died on 9/11, over 4000 died in Iraq plus 30,000 WIA, 1/3 with brain injuries. When you are dead or maimed it makes no difference whether it occurred here or in Iraq. God bless our troops, but use them wisely. GWB should have stayed focused on Afghanistan.
dannnynieves 3 years ago
With hine sight being 20/20 I quess we all can be arm chair generals . Mark twain wrote; War is such a simple thing when fought from the comfort of a warm chair and a glass of brandy in hand
catbird007 3 years ago 6
catbird007 said
With hine sight being 20/20 I quess we all can be arm chair generals .
Mark twain wrote; War is such a simple thing when fought from the comfort of a warm chair and a glass of brandy in hand
Amazing it took you three weeks to come up with this drivel, James Bond you are not. Four years from now, no one but a few dead heads is going to remember GWB, but mostly everyone will remember that his father knew where to draw a line, when it came to Iraq.
dannnynieves 3 years ago
Well danny I cannot take credit for that "drivel" you spoke of,because it was Mark Twain that first penned that observation on critics. James Bond is a fictional character much like Tom sawyer or Huck Finn or better yet The reflection in the mirror that looks back at you every morning
catbird007 3 years ago 4
That's the coolest scene in whole film. when the guy with the hooks picks up the American flag pin and then puts it in his coat pocket close to his heart....
catbird007 3 years ago 6
propaganda
your all suckas
outled 3 years ago
WWII was an actual fight to save not just our freedom, but world wide humanity and decency. A barbaric, bloodthirsty, genocidal, madman was taking over the world. He had successfully formed like minded and powerful alliances, and they were winning.
That was the last US military engagement with such a justified cause. What has followed since have been lie based invasions for MIC/corporate profit. Not ONE has been a fight for our freedom. That's not "conspiracy theory"-it's fact.
rogerrodd 3 years ago
So protecting other nations' freedom isn't justified? (Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, and now Iraq and Afghanistan)
DkEugen 3 years ago
The cover story for Korea and Nam was to "stop the spread of communism", aka the domino theory. The Berlin Wall fell on its own, the Soviet Union collapsed under its own weight, and the US is in bed with Red China. Nam and Korea are still divided and we had ZERO to do with that.
We went to Afghanistan to find Bin Laden. He's no longer in the news but the troops are still there guarding a Haliburton oil pipeline. WMDs NEVER found in Iraq. Record oil and war profits. Millions dead. Wake up.
rogerrodd 3 years ago
"Nam and Korea are still divided"
Nam is not divided, it's under full communist control because we pulled out, South Korea is now a successful nation because we didn't.
"We went to Afghanistan to find Bin Laden." no duh, AND to overthrow the Taliban which we did, NOW they want to take over again, which is why we are still there.
"WMDs NEVER found in Iraq."
Wow, genius, I would have never thought that. Was the battle of Fallujah over WMDs?
DkEugen 3 years ago
Your lack of accurate information is only surpassed by the volume of Pentagon caliber propaganda you spew. "Wars cost money, they don't make money", "millions dead. Where did I get that number?" That says it all. Obviously Eisenhower's admonishment to the nation in his farewell address warning of the "Military Industrial Complex" is too complex for you to grasp. Equally obvious is your typical hawk like disregard for the MILLIONS of civilian casualties. I'll leave you to your ignorance. I'm out.
rogerrodd 3 years ago
Well if you can't show me the source of the figure "millions dead" I must assume you are making it up.
"Obviously Eisenhower's admonishment to the nation in his farewell address warning of the "Military Industrial Complex" is too complex for you to grasp."
And this proves your point how? We supposedly cant grasp it but you can? Eisenhower to prove your point is odd considering the Eisenhower Doctrine is just an extension of the Truman Doctrine.(The justification for Nam and Korea)
DkEugen 3 years ago 3
""Wars cost money, they don't make money"... That says it all"
Funny you didn't do anything to actually discredit my claim.
"Pentagon caliber propaganda you spew"
Your propaganda is Truther caliber. Care to actually prove me wrong rather then going preachy on me?
DkEugen 3 years ago 2
"Wow, genius, I would have never thought that. Was the battle of Fallujah over WMDs"
Yes, weapons of mass deception and if you don't believe this, look what happened there with Knights of Malta's Blackwater!
And who by the way created Communism? Research this beyond Marx and Engels and be shocked!
leonvoltaire 2 years ago
"The cover story for Korea and Nam was to "stop the spread of communism"
And to protect the countries under attack by the communists.
"the Soviet Union collapsed under its own weight"
Quite irrelevant
"Record oil and war profits"
Sorry, but wars cost money, they don't make money.
"Millions dead"
Where did you get that number? Sounds like you need to wake up.
DkEugen 3 years ago 2
Was there something unclear to you about my last sentence? Last time I'll say it. I'm out. Seek your attention elsewhere. You obviously need it.
rogerrodd 3 years ago
I don't feel the need to seek out the information considering you won't even try to prove me wrong.
DkEugen 3 years ago 2
It sounds to me like you're just worried about protecting Dick Cheney's retirement fund. Who do you think is really being "protected?"
grabit1 3 years ago
I'd have knocked his block off too. I had a cousin with hooks like those. Watching him struggle with ignorant people showed just how much courage a person can have.
Caretaker24523 3 years ago
the more things change....
mindylinky 3 years ago 3
..., the more they stay the same?
MediaMayhem 3 years ago 4
this great scene from a great movie.
geargemartin 3 years ago
There are real conspiracies, but most of them are bullshit.
Nice to see that idiot get what was coming to him.
FuckingxJerryxLewis 3 years ago
I guess that creep talking bad about America and picked the side too, that was a hell of a punch
catbird007 3 years ago
i want to give this video lots of stars, it's very deep
Rubix0517 4 years ago 3
Have you seen the entire movie?
MediaMayhem 4 years ago
"i want to give this video lots of stars, it's very deep"
It's deeper than you'll ever know... if you're lucky.
MediaMayhem 3 years ago
Great movie
1998disco72 4 years ago
There is a certain group of people who say/said we were "fighting the wrong side" & they're called Neo-Nazis. Google it.
This character was likely a stand in for pre-war isolationists, whose position then was summed up as "America First", that or he was a Nazi sympathizer.
PS Russians woulda lost w/out the equipment we sent them. US Industrial power won WW2. Google it. Also: deal with it.
YouT00ber 4 years ago 4
I don't think this guy was even a conspiracy theorist, he may of been a facist sympathiser, and was just anti-war. Roosevelt did do some things before Pearl Harbor from what I understand, but looking at today, they were all our enemies sooner or later, so I don't think it matters anymore.
Derekanttil 4 years ago
I would have to agree with the comment below, and I don't think this video has to do with the 'liberal' and 'conservative' perspectives, whatever those are (I vote for whoever is more sensible). The man that is the conspiracy theorist is actually a conservative, since Democrats were the ones starting World War I, World War 2, Korea, Vietnam, etc. Conservatives were known to end wars or be isolationists in those days.
Derekanttil 4 years ago
However we got into world war 2, it would of involved us in the long run, especially if the Japanese and Germans got more powerful. To comment on conspiracy: I think ordinary people don't want to know anything, its that they want to prove themselves for any reason, and that action is all to live for. That is why leaders tell people what to do, and it is quite necessary to follow what they say, since they know more than we can.
Derekanttil 4 years ago
That clip is the perfect propagandist crap peddled (obviosly) every time the public shows the slightest incling of waking up. As if Roosevelt DIDN'T severely hamper Japanese economic interests prior to Pearl Harbor, to get a reaction from them. As if the Germans DIDN'T advertise any ship going near threatened waters would be sunk. Are we that stupid? Will we just demand to be sheep?
phamisss 4 years ago
leftist and there conspiracy theories !! the left said pearl harbor was an inside job , now they say 911 was an inside job by the super genious Bush crime family who hid the Jumbo jet that never flew into pentagon, and sent a missle into it , and he rigged the voting machines !! and leftist could never find enough evidence to convict Bush , LOL , conspiracy theories are so Gay !
grandconjunct 4 years ago 4
Hey Grand "Liberalism" is a severe mental illness! Someone should do a study to see why these imbeciles are so goofy!
ZIPPTPH77 4 years ago 5
I myself am quite liberal you seem to have grouped me with 9/11 and Pearl harbour Conspiracy theorists, Just becareful, thats the kind of carelessness the 9/11 Twoofers show
atecom 4 years ago
Great clip... thanks!
phxariz85020 4 years ago
Town Marshall on Bonanza and Conspiracy geek.
Wonder what dope he had on the Cartwright's...?
ForkliftJoe 4 years ago
After all looking at the facts is pretty scary. Its easier to be locked into your own perception of what happen to you and what you saw. After all its not like eugenics was sponsored by Rockefeller, its not like George Herbert Walker Bush and Brown Brothers and Hariman laundered nazi gold. After all the facts are scary, so lets get down to the fistacuffs. Oh yeah that type of ignorance went away with the 1950's
PhunkCDXX 4 years ago
Thanks for posting this!Reminds me to thank our current military for what they do to keep us free!
arthurleino 4 years ago
Great movie!!
1998disco72 4 years ago
Thanks Tralman, saw that old movie on TNT was a great movie then, is a great movie now. Yep, the liberals in this country are trying to get us all killed while they "support" our troops.
spookynshadow 4 years ago 3
Yeah right--it's the liberals. Does anyone really believe that anymore?
ONKlub 4 years ago
Yes.
MediaMayhem 4 years ago
I agree with you. If you do not support the war how in the hell can you support the troops? Good post.
1998disco72 4 years ago
The proper way to treat a liberal!
Tralman1965 4 years ago
actually he represented the arch conservative of the day... good ole sheriff coffey from bananza "just read the facts, my friend" lol one of the best movies made..
irish89055 4 years ago
All the lousy libs need to punched into a glassed perfume display, and then be left there.....
ZIPPTPH77 4 years ago 3
@ZIPPTPH77 Yeah, that is what should have happened to the leftist soldier and soda jerk.
ArcoFlagellant 1 month ago
@ArcoFlagellant
It's especially warped and galling that Fred orders the VICTIM of Homer's vicious assault to stand down, then attacks him himself. Fred's unfaithful wife has my sympathy.
Fast-forward a few weeks to Fred and Homer being served papers for battery and losing hundreds in court. Nothing less than they deserve.
BiffMP5 1 month ago
I guess the lousy liberals of today think that our soldiers are a bunch of suckers fighting in Iraq. What a bunch of gutless wonders the America hating libs are! Nothing changes......
ZIPPTPH77 4 years ago 3