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  • bueno...

  • Fascinating. These 3D shapes, derived from 102 unique wave functions, allow for modular constructs of larger forms (molecules), through harmonics of goodness of fit (variably pliable Legos). Personally, I view them as "Not Knot Knots" of spacetime. It's the curvature that gives us, in part, the E/C^2.

  • Right... 3D shapes...

    These are 4 and 5D shapes.. -_-

  • @IX0o0XI I'm a bit late, but they are showing you how the different shapes relate to one another by showing the changes that can be made to get from one shape to another. It's related to how they are going to organize them all. Also, they are 2-D Representations of 3-D Sections of 4-D objects, specifically the animation of the transition between the shapes. The important thing is the 3-D objects really. I'd like to see where you get 5-D from. :/

  • COOOOOOOLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :3

  • I dont understand how the smalles building blocks has a smooth surface if pi goes on forever :S

  • woa! 

    this is really cool

    i like the idea of a periodic table of geometry

  • I swear they're just making stuff up now! :)

  • What the fuck

  • @113Doctor hi, double-one. I'm just trying2get a handle on this stuff. I used to, as an artist, imagine form to be infinite, but now here's this table of forms and people have been working on this concept since the thirties... so I tried to take a look at it, but with New Scientist, one has2have a subscription first. all I got was they boiled this down to over 100 basic forms. but here comes the possibility of a "Los Alamos" "Dr. Frankenstein" scenario of the dark side of human nature in it ...

  • @paulhallart "but now here's this table of forms " I don't think they mean 'shape' the same way most people use it. I think maybe it's like topology, where something like a coffee cup is equivalent to a donut because you can distort (a stretchy) one into the other without cutting it, since it has the same number of holes and seams.

  • @ImMichaelTaylor -- so then the form atom is therefore the last morph-able entity before inmorphability and that may just afford the student with a certain utilitarian frame of reference i.e. this kind of periodic table which can then be used in such fields as perhaps architecture or engineering. or are they arriving at an understanding that these form atoms comprise some aspect of existence itself. otherwise lacking utility it still is valid as some sort of complex exercise in solid geomitry

  • @paulhallart "the last morph-able entity " That how it seems to me.

    "are they arriving at an understanding that these form atoms comprise some aspect of existence itself. " I think they're hoping it is, but they haven't actually said as much.

    I think each "shape" is a set of solutions to a polynomial, so I suppose any field of study which uses such equations could use the "table" to discover the most fundamental properties of a particular mathematical model.

  • @ImMichaelTaylor P.S. there's more detail on Coates' blog at imperial college, which is (replace spaces with dots) coates ma ic ac uk , then you scroll down to the link for "fano". When that page comes up you can put "press release" in the search box to see some pages with more examples.

    Also, there's a more detailed article than the NS summary on internetchemie (dot) info, just search for "shapes".

  • @ImMichaelTaylor so then by the distillation of the morphistic shape into these minimizations described as their "atoms" one must assume they might be able to take things a bit further into the less imaginative aspect of functionality towards practicality and be able to form of them sort of "molecules" as it were in which they might be taken through their more complex aspects to achieve uses in such things as architecture, metallurgy, re-entry vehicles and so on.

  • @paulhallart I'm not sure results would be much use for ordinary 3d design at the human scale. I got the impression they were aiming more at the dimensions that are too small for us to see, such as some areas of theoretical physics deal with.

  • @ImMichaelTaylor indeed. that therefore means that there must be more things taking shape than meet the eye! not only are these shape atoms minimal in forms but also it seems mere nanometers in girth. perhaps such things a string theory and such.

  • beticanmakeyousaywhat?!

  • atom is actually a Greek word for "smallest", kind of. so these guys are exploring the smallest shapes that can be gotten using certain criterion of as many dimensions that can b presently known, both tactile and hidden. They hang out at the Imperial College. By categorizing properties in a periodic table, they will open a way2understand form, never b4 realized. The concept's been around since the 1930's but this is a real step forward&can b computerized. so we'll see where they go with that.

  • I like these random 3d shapes

  • poor children

  • is it just me or this audience on this channal is more ignorant than expected? i mean its a science and technology channel, one would expect some mature people.

  • @outlawkelb you're on the planet of the apes. expect stupidity to infiltrate every aspect of your life for the rest of your life :(

  • @outlawkelb ya, welcome to the internet! :D

  • @outlawkelb hi outie. may I contrib a observation: it appears as though the synthetic environment has had a denigrating effect on genetics. what we may be looking at is xtreme mutation. another thing might b that the internet isn't working as we thought it might've done. some new scientific data reveals a profound shift in the way people think because of the advent of the 'net. as trip six points out it's a real co cap d. The last shift was at the advent of printing a few hundred yrs ago...

  • @outlawkelb I have a big pernis

  • @outlawkelb you're looking for ted.com. YouTube is a soapbox for orangutans.

  • What are the formulas for these geometric atoms ?

  • I've thought sometimes of the geometric periodic table, but watching this bolws my mind, there must be an infinite number of this shapes. I wonder which rules are they using to classify

  • thats so awesome

  • that explains everything! clearly they had found a gap in space-time continuum!

  • the basic 3D bilding block is a polygon! Play more computergames, than you will notice... do i get a article in nature or science now?

  • @unluckylion do you even know the shape of a polygon?

  • @unluckylion Um... No, actually videogames are like that because that's how 3D models are made, because computers can't calculate too many particles at once, so they just made surfaces flat.

  • but will they run crysis?

  • I'll show YOU a multidimentional form..

  • Might be useful data to use in protein folding?

  • But will they blend?

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  • uhhhhh...

  • Now that is cool.

  • This is a freekin weird idea, i love it.

  • Apparently these shapes get reduced to differential equations, and if the equation can't be broken down further - it gets called an 'atom' if it can, it gets called a 'molecule'.... the article links it to string theory... so... warning flag.

  • Ok, I think I understand what is being said. The last object (the one that looks like two river stones pushed together) has a ring going through it. As the ring changes position, the object to the right mutates, hinting that the ring is marking a cross-section. My understanding is that this is kindof like conics where a hyperbola, parabola, line, circle, point, and ellipse can be represented as a plane intersecting a cone. Am I close?

  • I cant understand you over the sound of all this SCIENCE going on.

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  • @TigerSlashX

    The correct technical term has an exclamation point at the end (SCIENCE!).

    Also, I don't understand this video, what about the sphere and the cube, aren't those pretty basic 3D shapes?

  • thats so weird.. i wont be able to ever understand this.

  • This is awesome...

  • wait, what?

  • @Spoonergasm X) u didn't read ur book at your Chemistry class didn't you?

  • @GMdark11 lmao I'm actually a chemistry major XD

  • @Spoonergasm XD READ UR BOOK!!!! 

  • @GMdark11 but this is a math thing! these are the smallest components of shapes... it doesn't even involve chemistry! haha

  • Shapes that can't be broken down to simpler shapes huh? I wish you told me more about the concept behind it, because any shape can be made smaller or be cut in half or downsized, sliced, diced, or otherwise be broken down into simpler shapes. Like balls or cubes or whatever... So what's the big idea about this? The shapes presented still look pretty darn complex.

  • you more you know... DADADA

  • How are they going to teach you this? Magnesium looks like this. . . Got it? Good because that's on your test.

  • @myshoescramp Well, for one, it's about shapes and has nothing to do with the periodic table of elements. It's a table of shapes... And there my knowledge ends as well. I wish they made the concept around it more clear too. But that's what you get from a 37 second video...

  • Awh. I was really hoping for a new model of the shape of an atom.

  • I've seen shapes of the electron probability cloud and also seen cymatic patterns. They are very similar except the clouds are around a sphere and the cymatics are on flat plates. I've learnt something from this lol

  • These shapes have been talked about in New Age spirituality for decades now. They are called "Sacred Geometry". It was also said that some people see them while tripping on DMT. There is also an artist named Alex Grey who tries to paint it

  • @djsuperstar717 Erm, mathematicians have always known about these shapes:

    "In the 1930s, Gino Fano discovered nine two-dimensional atomic shapes, while research in the 1980s revealed 102 shapes in three dimensions. But these discoveries came in the form of lists, not organised groups, and never progressed to higher dimensions."

    Whatever silly New Age Spirituality squacks have to say is irrelevant, the point of the video was that these shapes are now being organised by the properties.

  • People come to these videos and complain due to short sightedness. Clearly they are not the kinds of people who should be allowed within reach of any science video. [["Science is interesting... If you don't like it, fuck off"]]

  • @McPrfctday People are more likely to complaint about shortcomings of the content than shortsightedness. This could have been explained in more detail, actually teaching people about these shapes, yet they only give news about them being compiled... I can make compilations too, but why it this science? They fail there.

  • They could have given more info :/

  • Might as well stare into a kaleidoscope. . .

  • they're all round

  • why?

  • damn it! the foreign lady is narrating again

  • @AVerbene She does it in comprehensible English though. Not giving much information to go on, but still...

  • It's breaking my mind!!! >_<

  • Periodic Table of Videos, brought it up a week ago... :)

  • Can you make napkins look like that?

  • finally something good from this channel.

  • cool story bro

  • If this carries on I'm going to have to unsubscribe. When I woke up this morning I didn't have self esteem issues. A different guy is going to bed.

  • Worry not.. they'll fix them splittable with next patch.

  • I always thought shapes are self explanatory.

  • but will it blend?

  • @tommylodz2004 i never got that joke. What's it from?

  • @OfficialHollow Search "will it blend" on youtube.

  • I thought my head hurt BEFORE I watched this?!

  • "I know this makes no sense to you whatsoever but all shapes are made of these. Seriously."

    Pretty much what I got from this.

  • We have used geometry as a tool to calculate complicated problems relating to the normal periodic table of elements but we have never taken the step to show how the shapes them selfs are fundamental to nature. I love this, and it means third grade geometry just got a lot cooler. Instead of a triangle being an abstract idea it can now be seen as fundamental part of how the the universe works. I wish the video was longer!

  • Is there any point to this shit?

  • @fatalist6o9

    you must be from alabama

  • @IronChefWannabe I am from england but where I am from has nothing to do with what I said. If there is a point to it, why not just tell me? Because there isn't one...

  • oh god, does this mean my kids will have this as their homework and ask me how the hell to do it and i'll say, "you're on your own, in my day all we had to do was memorize a few elements, you're screwed"

  • bullshit

  • ummm. . . . HUH?

  • Ok? This video explains this horribly, and there's no new info in the full article. Are these 3d? and if so why are they changing shape? Can you explain anything to us, at least if you're reading the comments? Thanks.

  • Um...... whatt?

  • cant be broken down nay further? of coure you can!!!. especially the testicle looking one

  • @kralalrulz I hope thats not what you think testicles are suppose to look like. lol Go to the doctor man.

  • whatttttt

  • wow. that's interesting.

  • Take that science you're not the only one with a periodic table now.

  • I saw a full hour program about these shapes and I did'nt understand it sadly. In such a short video I don't think many ppl will get it either. However, I liked that the doughnut was one of these shapes!!

  • a lot of idiot commenters on these newscientist vids.

    a lot of closed minds and arrogance.

  • Uh?

  • Stop complaining that you haven't learned anything. Click the damn links to the full articles.

  • @Orion688 It is so very upsetting to see these people on scientific videos, it reminds me how the most of Earth's population is structured: ignorant and proud of it.

    It is not unreasonable that most prefer to delude themselves into grasping the absolute truth by a non coherent, simplistically sluggish thought like "god did it" instead to actually read, search and learn something.

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  • This sounds more like topology than string theory. The article links to almost no useful information so I have no idea what this little clip is referring to.

  • i think most of Newscientists subscribers only subbed because they're such an easy target for troll comments. I'm not saying I didnt.

  • Universe is made out of shapes not atoms and whole information about the universe is contained in it's geometry.

  • PORN

  • they don't know s&%t. hey newscientist...report on how all the elements are becoming unstable. report on the elements that we aren't taught.....come on....something NEW pls.

  • My penis can make those shapes as well. (yes, I'm that mature)

  • uuuuuuum i dont believe this

  • i admit this went over my head but i wont stoop low enough to blame the mathematicians for the that fact, i will go and study. shame everyone wants everything spoon fed to them...

  • your videos were getting good at one point but not anymore, that was kool but i wish you included which atoms were which! im a little lost, i thought you were meant to teach ppl not just leave them wondering.

  • All multidimensions? them if i want to see an object for n dimension it would made of a group of those objects ?

  • So THAT's how they make porn?

    wait.. did i misunderstand the two-word explanation?

  • fake and gay...did he died... two camels in a tiny car... glitch in the matrix...

  • This changed my life...

  • um arent they 4D not 3D..?

  • I expect longer explanation.

  • ummmmm.....

  • What about string theory?

  • @kazimann

    Can't be proven

    Yet....

    Enjoy your bloatscience

  • cant be broken down anymore? so what are they made from

  • I will tell my children, and my childrens children about this day!

  • lol woot wait what, these are what atoms ar... whaaaaaaaat?

    Smallest 3d shapes? Seriously wtf is that?

  • @Ilamarea your subscribed to new scientist, and you don't know what an atom is?

  • @JM12101

    How does any of this has anything to do with atoms?

    First they start talking about atoms, and shapes, and I think that these are shapes from which atoms are made, but then they mess up everything even more and I have no idea wtf this is seposed to be.

    how can you not break a shape into anything smaller ><

  • "these are the basic building blocks of all shapes"

    Well they dont look basic. And if you handed me any of the shapes they had here i dont think i would be able to build anything with them..... Nothing i can think off. Nope

  • what... ok, have i learnt anything from this?

  • @marcarmstrong88 if you listened yes :)

  • @marcarmstrong88 If you haven't then the joke's on you. Unsub or shut up.

  • @marcarmstrong88 possibly that you are a homosexual?

  • @marcarmstrong88 you've learnt there are smarter people than you

  • @scullyy lol of course i already know that.

  • @marcarmstrong88 You've learned that the shapes of the minutest building blocks of all matter are being catalogued for you convenience.

  • @marcarmstrong88 no because your a fucking ignoramus like the rest of the populace.

    if you knew physics and chemistry, this video is plain beautiful

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  • explain?

  • 9th.

    LOTR lol

  • Dumb mathematicians!!! Hello!?! People have cancer!!!

  • I came

  • hmm....? i have to read more on this one

  • 4th

  • well that's interesting...

  • elephant sex

  • third

  • interesting...

  • first

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