the title of this video is utter bollocks, how about you tie the club to your chest and hold your arms behind your back then you can call it "...without swinging arms!"...ps if you do this, make sure you post it up so i can piss myself laughing at you thrashing about missing the ball
Just so u know, Thats the modern perfect golfswing. It god power and accuracy.
Take rory mcilroy. He got that swing, almost all of the young and new players got the "new" modern sving. And this guy got a key point to it. But i would like to se him hit without that thing on his arm and hit with the club on the ground.
Some people don't get the concept of a swing with passive arms. If you engage the arm muscles you slow down the club head and screw up the swing plane. I have tried this device and it is awesome for revealing and correcting flaws in your swing plane.
You can do either on the course but yes, I prefer to start with this position because it shows the others golfers in the group how far you can crush the golf ball without much effort.
And for some reason, I never feel silly walking by the other drives to get to mine. I actually feel quite the opposite.
Look at his body. That is whats hitting the ball. its an illusion. Hitting it with the body creates effortless power. Your arms do not do the work, they just follow behind and act like a whip. His arms are going slow, but his hands are releasing allot of power generated from the body. This movement by the body is called the Kinematic sequence. The same exact sequence you use to hit a baseball. You step and power your body through. With golf you use your hips and legs.
@scoremore05 I don't think you advertise this product or contraption or whatever it is properly. I think this would be a great tool for people who swing without proper sequencing of the legs/hips/shoulders. No one would want to use this while actually playing, but it seems like a worthy investment as a training aid.
You can, as long as it's not in competition. And what's great about the red ball on the TALY MIND Set is that it ingrains in your mind very quickly so that even when you take it off, you will be able to imagine it when you are out on the course.
This provides the added benefit of keeping your mind off of your swing to help eliminate any pressure you may normally feel.
i am 13 and i am 12 and im pretty sure everything works together on the swing but the hips are everything that gets you started on the downswing, though the backswing is very important and it sets up before you get ready to hit
He is NOT generating power with his arms/hands.He coils his upper body against his lower during the backswing then unwinds from the feet UP.This is called the kinematic sequence.When the club automatically releases (due to centrifugal force) it APPEARS that he is using arm power.I swing like this and if I try to generate power with my hands I will hook the ball into the next county. The red ball helps get you on plane and helps to keep the hands AHEAD of the club at impact.This is VERY IMPORTANT
If you'll look at where the red ball is at in the set up before the swing, then watch where the red ball is when your hands reach impact during the swing, youll see that it is not the same. Your swing looks good, and the drive hit here was nice. Also, I can appreciate that you are trying to make money off selling a gadget. But your title should be different because no matter how you put it, your arms wind up on the other side of the body. Here, "Taly's red ball gadget improves your swing plane."
And if you don't mind, please explain a little more. Where is the red ball in the set up before the swing and where is it when your hands reach impact.
@scoremore05 Freeze the video at :00 and you can see the red ball under the hands at set up. Just before impact at :08 the red ball is above the hands, and above the white box in the middle of the screen.
Not really sure how this is relevant unless you are promoting that your hands should be at different positions in set-up and impact, because that is what is happening here.
I see what you mean @casualguy393 and what you are seeing is me resetting my address position to a new on plane position which no longer requires me to manipulate the golf club through impact.
your wrist angle looks weak as hell thtll never last once u take tht crap off...everyones tryna make inventions but still the best way to learn is hit balls nd figure tht shit out yourself
Yah but its the right way to hit the ball. Try hitting a 300 yard drive STRAIGHT with your arms and see what you get. You'll probably miss or spin out and look like 90% of the golfers out there. The swing is an illusion.
Think of a bicycle wheel tilted to the swing plane; the hands ride the rim, the arms are spokes, and the body is the hub. The spokes/arms move but not independently of the hub - they transport the hands along the rim (on plane). I find it essential to a repeating reliable swing, though results also depend on impact alignments (which can make or break any swing - a separate but required skill to be learned first, IMHO)
@scoremore05 but...there is an amount of power coming from the arms. i notice most am.'s tend to use too much arm muscle and it messes up the true potential power the hips and turn produce. it's comparable to the grip in a great drive. nothing too tense and overly strengthen, but controlled and loose to produce the powerful lag a player such as ben hogan was rich in manufacturing.
hes barely using his arms lol. you really arent supposed to, most of your power comes from the rotation of your body, you still need your arms to support the club.
meh.. let the trolls be trolls. the whole point of this video is that he barely has to swing to hit the ball 300+ yds which most people don't understand. Golf is not about power, it is about contact.. if you make perfect contact, you can swing half speed and hit it just as far
Hi Taly, Thanks for the response. Well,today didn't go so well as yesterday. Will have to keep working on it,but I like the concept. Practice.Practice. Practice. Any additional pointers for the pull/push? Bob in PHX
Hi Taly.... have seen you vids in the past. I tried your pull/push swing today,and I can honestly say I hit more draws in one day then I have in my lifetime of playing golf. I was hitting the greens with darts today. Very enjoyable round. Irons were fantastic,but still need to work on the driver. Thanks for an alternative way to hit the ball solid. Keep up the good work. Bob in PHX
if you dont "swing" or move your arms the clubhead would never come that high from the floor just by twisting your body...its still a powerful swing but you def move your arms..
Thanks for posting @revchild and I know that it seems impossible, but that's why I do it in slow motion first.
I do it to convince and show my body how far I actually have to turn to accomplish it. Otherwise, my body would just prefer to stop and let my arms fling forward to complete the move. And that's how golfers disconnect from their power.
And please be clear that I don't question whether my arms MOVE. I said I am not swinging them.
I still use your Taly to keep my swing organized. I use a convential swing however because of how you demonstrate the aid, it appears you are doing something different than conventional. You are actually hitting the club Tiger does from hip high down.
I use a different concept to get the club in position in the downswing. It is like throwing a medicine ball from hip high and rotate through keeping arms "passive". The Taly gives me a great physical and visual sensation.
When we designed the TALY MIND Set our goal wasn't to tell golfers how to swing. It was to simply give them a reference point so that they could see how everything was moving relative to each other, and therefore repeat any result they liked.
I like the fact that you have your own use for the TALY and I really got a good idea of your move by the medicine ball example that you gave. That feels very connected.
I think what they meant "not swinging arms" is don't uncock your wrist at impact. Cock your wrist only just after impact. In reality, you are really uncocking your wrist in a split of a second just before impact, but this is what you should be thinking in your mind , "don't uncock your wrist". If you are slicing the ball, do an in and out swing.
What do you mean "not swinging arms?" How are you not swinging your arms? lol Just because you pause at the beginning of your take away, you still make a regular swing. Very misleading title.
And I will agree with you that that it does look fairly regular. The point being that a regular swing can happen, even when we are not doing the typically suggested moves.
@scoremore05 No, nothing I said was incorrect. You are swinging your arms very clearly. Whether or not you are doing "typically suggested moves" is not germane to the fact that you are swinging your arms. And yes, as I said, the swing is regular with the exception of the obvious pause facilitated by your swing aid.
Why does everyone take what he is saying literally??? Obviously his arms are moving or technically "swinging" but he is only using his arms to hang on to the club, and he is rotating his hips and shoulders to generate that movement, and the force needed to hit the ball. Sometimes I really wonder what goes on in people's heads.
Thanks for posting @provic1 but please double check our title. We didn't saying anything about "not using" our arms. We agree with you that we use them, we just don't swing them.
@scoremore05 I normally hit it about 220. Farthest Ive hit it is 240. I feel like my arms are doing all the work with my body swaying more than turning
Hi @AROD617. Bear with us as we get anywhere from 15,000 to 30,000 new visitors a month to the TALY site so I am usually not able to respond right away.
Your initial post asked if I had any advice regarding getting extra yards with the driver and I really can't offer much without seeing your move. I'll send you a direct message and you can email me a video of your swing.
You did mention that the farthest you have hit your drive is 20 yards further so, at the least, we want to repeat that.
All these comments about no hinge in his swing...do you think if he's pulling the golf club through at 100+ miles an hour the weight of the clubhead won't make his wrists hinge on the way down? Food for thought. Don't confuse what you should try to do with what happens.
Guys he's trying to demonstrate the importance or the body over using your arms. If you notice his arms don't move on his back swing. They only start moving right before he hits the ball to create lag. Great video!
We're an engineering company and one of the key things I want golfers to understand is that if you want an extremely simplified golf swing, with very few moving parts, which is repeatable and also powerful; then incorporate this approach.
It's simply an alternative that some golfers may want to try out.
It needs to be in slow motion to really prove anything, or demonstrate what actually happens to the viewer. I cant believe people havent figured it out, once at real speed, once in slow motion. It should be law.
I am not sure that I understand your post @TheiMaxo,but as I have said before "why do posters change what I have said and then proceed to tell me that it is inaccurate".
I did not say that my arms are not moving. I said that I am not swinging them. My arms are connected to my shoulders and if my shoulders move, then my arms have moved.
funny all the mad people, however just a question, you are suggesting that you don't cock your wrist, but at the top the club is cocked past you practice impact angle. Power is generated by the torso and lower body but you do get some power from the unhinging of your wrists, no? Also it looks as though you stand pretty far from the golf ball, is that to account for the smaller amount of wrist cock? thanks for the vids
I firm up my left wrist at address and do everthing in my power to not let that wrist position change.
At address, the wrist is already in a slightly hinged position because the left arm and golf shaft are not on the same line.
The distance that I stand from the golf ball is determined by passing the red ball over the golf ball. The red ball shows a golfer their simplest plane for movement and power when it passes over thegolf ball.
No he's not!!!!!!!!!!! Its the hips an body that hits the ball. NOT THE ARMS. The arms are just their to support the club. That is why there are only about 100 players on the PGA cause everyone else is fooled by the illusion of the Golf swing. Guys poopin drives 40 yards down the fairway by swinging as hard as they can with the arms. Buying expensive balls that do not go together with their swing speeds and equipment trying to mimik and copy the pros. NO ARMS JUST BODY!!!!
@scoremore05 I know it's a tricky concept but if you look at the video you first swing your arms back and then you swing them forward. I'm sure if you concentrate long enough you will understand. if you mean that you don't bend the arm during the swing you do that too..
it's very much like a normal golf swing, maybe a little shorter. but the title is certainly a lie. to push a bs product.
@DanFrederiksen. A discussion that's fine, but the profanity used in your other posts is unnecessary and I'll have to remove it so it doesn't offend others.
What's important for golfers to understand in a golf swing is what TO DO and not things that you may feel HAPPEN.
If I'm walking down the street and I AM NOT moving my ears up and down, are my ears still moving? Yes, because my body is moving down the street.
I hold my arms stationary relative to my chest so they don't swing.
@scoremore05 I think I understand what you are doing but when it comes to the actual execution of the swing it is quite normal. locking your arms on the way up is quite irrelevant. you could have a sandwich on the way up. what matters is the swing down. not what you feel happens :)
say you took high speed video from top position and down and left out the initial posing. would it really be much different from a 'normal' swing? and would any tiny nuance make the title honest..
If holding your arms stationary will result in "the normal swing", then that's exactly my point. And many golfers would like to know that.
Otherwise, golfers will believe that their only option is to actively swing their arms and that's not the case.
Holding your arms stationary relative to your chest, and giving yourself the proper spine tilt which is identified when THIS PRODUCT passes over the golf ball, is more than a nuance.
@scoremore05 ok so your point with the video is that being stiff in the arms on the upswing helps make a good normal swing? but that's not what the title says though. and that's not why you got more dislikes than likes.
Awesome ! I have been working on this lately. I have realised that I am not "connected" throughout my swing, and I love the block as you call it. It works brilliantly my iron shots are dead straight now and consistant, my chipping is unbelievable also with this block method.I tense up my shoulders and arms and basically turn my hips. I love it !
Thanks for posting @seaeagles96. It doesn't need to be a block but keep doing what you are doing because that's what this game is all about. Being able to repeat your move and your contact.
I like how simplified it is. I think too many golfers are over-techniquing the golf swing. Too many thoughts. Too many moving parts. I personally like a simpler golf swing. Just my opinion.
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I guess this is what the golf swing is moving towards. Strong grip, over the top, and block to hold the face square through impact. Nobody releases the clubhead anymore. Oh well, it is straight and repeatable so more power to you.
@scoremore05 Right, a "block" is holding the face through impact, or not releasing. There is a great deal of power to be had in releasing properly, but at the cost of accuracy when your timing is thrown off. Your method doesn't seem to rely on timing much, which is good. But, I bet when you fail to reroute over the top and/or release/flip through impact your miss is a wild hook. Right?
@par5endos562 u describe my driver swing perfectly. i used to play a draw consistently off the tee but lost a lot of confidence in it after not playing for a cpl of years and losing my timing etc. i usually play a straight ball or a fade because ive found it much easier to hitting what u accurately describe as a block.
@par5endos562 I still like releasing the club head because if you can hit the ball 300 without releasing the club then you can hit it 375 if you release it
I don't see why people can't see that your arms are not in use. People take the title swinging without arms literally while what was meant was that the swing is not including arms, but shoulder rotation. This is a cool method for beginners. Good job Taly
And also thanks for understanding what I have posted.
No one said that this is the be all and end all swing. It's simply a powerful and repeatable method to impact a golf ball because loosely swinging arms and wrists create havoc in our game if we don't put in the time or get to play every other day.
over the top... youre getting too steep on the ball, you need to try and stay behind it driving your lower body through the impact zone before you're upper body
You swung your arms. You used your hips and a shoulder turn too. I don't know how you can't see that. If you didn't drive your arms they would be stuck behind you. Simple as that.
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MrStocksw 2 months ago
Thanks for posting @cobrajett11.
scoremore05 3 months ago
300 yards into pitch black
Typho0n86 3 months ago 2
Thanks for posting @Typho0n86.
This video was posted at the request of viewers who wanted to be able to see the ball flight coming off of the club. So we shot this one at night.
We have plenty of videos posted in broad daylight if you watch some of the others.
scoremore05 3 months ago
the title of this video is utter bollocks, how about you tie the club to your chest and hold your arms behind your back then you can call it "...without swinging arms!"...ps if you do this, make sure you post it up so i can piss myself laughing at you thrashing about missing the ball
s9ecialk 3 months ago
Thanks for posting @s9ecialk.
I actually wouldn't tie them right on my chest because that would require even more turning to finally get to impact.
But how about I just set them like I do in this video and then begin turning from there.
Have you pissed yourself yet or are you now only pissed because I'm only going to have a wedge in from there?
scoremore05 3 months ago
OMG!!! at 0:03 his arms moved!!!!!
SAVAGEcammando 3 months ago
Thanks for posting @SAVAGEcammando. I agree.
scoremore05 3 months ago
Just so u know, Thats the modern perfect golfswing. It god power and accuracy.
Take rory mcilroy. He got that swing, almost all of the young and new players got the "new" modern sving. And this guy got a key point to it. But i would like to se him hit without that thing on his arm and hit with the club on the ground.
JonathanGvold 3 months ago
Thanks for posting @JonathanGvold.
scoremore05 3 months ago
nicee!!!! love it when it connects off the ball and goes *tink* just love that noise :D
ViventLeMoment 4 months ago
Thanks for posting @ViventLeMoment.
J'aime ca moment aussi
scoremore05 3 months ago
what is there on your left arm, please??
viaiphone 4 months ago
Thanks for posting @viaiphone.
The device with red ball is the taly mind set scoring tool.
You can see more at the TALY dotcom website.
scoremore05 3 months ago
if you know how to swing your hips and create a whip, you don't need this.
bbaggy 4 months ago
Thanks for posting @bbaggy.
scoremore05 4 months ago
Some people don't get the concept of a swing with passive arms. If you engage the arm muscles you slow down the club head and screw up the swing plane. I have tried this device and it is awesome for revealing and correcting flaws in your swing plane.
ichihentai 5 months ago
Thanks for posting @ichihentai.
scoremore05 4 months ago
So what on the course do you start in this posistion too? I imagine you looking silly.
MrRagnello17 5 months ago
Thanks for posting @MrRagnello17.
You can do either on the course but yes, I prefer to start with this position because it shows the others golfers in the group how far you can crush the golf ball without much effort.
And for some reason, I never feel silly walking by the other drives to get to mine. I actually feel quite the opposite.
scoremore05 4 months ago
All balls look far when you hit them in the dark
jbizzle231 5 months ago
Interesting @jbizzle231. I wasn't aware of that.
The reason this video was shot at night was in response to those posters who wanted to see the ball flight better.
scoremore05 4 months ago
Fake. If that was real, you'd only hit it like 125 at most.
HamperedKnave2 5 months ago
Wow. Thanks for posting @HamperedKnave2.
scoremore05 4 months ago
@scoremore05 Well you're a grown man. You would have enough arm strength to hit 125 like that.
HamperedKnave2 4 months ago
swinging a club by turning your body... aka doing a regular swing...
SheepDog53 5 months ago
Possibly @SheepDog53, but that is not what is taught.
And you do make a good point. It does RESULT in a great move.
scoremore05 4 months ago
nice pull-hook, 300 my ass.
tirmen8er 5 months ago
Thanks for posting @tirmen8er.
scoremore05 4 months ago
lol ....????? ... why dont you post a video of what you thinking swinging your arms is ...
bosedog2003 5 months ago
Will do @bosedog2003. Thanks for posting.
scoremore05 4 months ago
would someone send me a message and tell me how the hell that isnt swinging your arms and what is on his arm
jackripstick 6 months ago
@jackripstick
Look at his body. That is whats hitting the ball. its an illusion. Hitting it with the body creates effortless power. Your arms do not do the work, they just follow behind and act like a whip. His arms are going slow, but his hands are releasing allot of power generated from the body. This movement by the body is called the Kinematic sequence. The same exact sequence you use to hit a baseball. You step and power your body through. With golf you use your hips and legs.
ravenwda007 5 months ago
Good post @ravenwda007. Thanks for sharing that.
scoremore05 4 months ago
Thanks for posting @jackripstick.
There's an additional explanation in the info below the video.
scoremore05 4 months ago
Tanks for posting @ikramhajar.
scoremore05 6 months ago
That was solid, but not 300 yards....
MrTomi123456 6 months ago
U started your swing 1 foot behind what you normally do. If you usually hit it 320, you hit it 300. Which is was probably 275 anyhow.
Splahhhh 6 months ago
Thanks for posting @Splahhhh.
scoremore05 4 months ago
Well, i'd rather swing my arms att hit the ball 400 yards. Like I am doing now :)
Zlaterrr 6 months ago
Thanks for posting @Zlaterrr.
scoremore05 4 months ago
i dont get it
xXLONGHARDUNXx 6 months ago
i can't do this, because everytime i try my arms move..
jimmyjohn19 6 months ago 16
Sounds like you are doing it right then @jimmyjohn19.
The point being:
1) I never said that my arms don't move, and
2) It can be very effective for golfers to learn that something can move as a result as opposed to you doing it directly.
Moving your arms doesn't guarantee that your shoulders will move but moving your shoulders automatically RESULTS in your arms moving.
This point may seem minor but most golfers get out of sequence and lose a tremendous amount of power.
scoremore05 6 months ago
@scoremore05 I don't think you advertise this product or contraption or whatever it is properly. I think this would be a great tool for people who swing without proper sequencing of the legs/hips/shoulders. No one would want to use this while actually playing, but it seems like a worthy investment as a training aid.
tcoons1912 5 months ago
Could u adapt this 2 iron shots off the ground, strokes, trouble shots etc?
cuberslashskater 6 months ago
Thanks for posting @cuberslashskater. Yes it works for all shots.
I mainly only use it off the tee since once I am in the fairway, maximizing power is not my priority anymore.
scoremore05 6 months ago
are u aloud 2 use those on the coarse?
cuberslashskater 6 months ago
Thanks for posting @cuberslashskater.
You can, as long as it's not in competition. And what's great about the red ball on the TALY MIND Set is that it ingrains in your mind very quickly so that even when you take it off, you will be able to imagine it when you are out on the course.
This provides the added benefit of keeping your mind off of your swing to help eliminate any pressure you may normally feel.
scoremore05 6 months ago
i am 13 and i am 12 and im pretty sure everything works together on the swing but the hips are everything that gets you started on the downswing, though the backswing is very important and it sets up before you get ready to hit
MrBashshar 7 months ago
Thanks for posting @MrBashshar.
scoremore05 6 months ago
It takes little effort to hit the ball. That is key.
ravenwda007 7 months ago
He is NOT generating power with his arms/hands.He coils his upper body against his lower during the backswing then unwinds from the feet UP.This is called the kinematic sequence.When the club automatically releases (due to centrifugal force) it APPEARS that he is using arm power.I swing like this and if I try to generate power with my hands I will hook the ball into the next county. The red ball helps get you on plane and helps to keep the hands AHEAD of the club at impact.This is VERY IMPORTANT
TheNYgolfer 7 months ago
@TheNYgolfer
I tell everybody that the swing is an illusion. You sir/miss understand exactly how to swing. My handicap is 10.
ravenwda007 7 months ago
Some excellent points @TheNYgolfer. Thanks for posting.
scoremore05 6 months ago
If you'll look at where the red ball is at in the set up before the swing, then watch where the red ball is when your hands reach impact during the swing, youll see that it is not the same. Your swing looks good, and the drive hit here was nice. Also, I can appreciate that you are trying to make money off selling a gadget. But your title should be different because no matter how you put it, your arms wind up on the other side of the body. Here, "Taly's red ball gadget improves your swing plane."
casualguy393 7 months ago
Thanks for posting @casualguy393.
And if you don't mind, please explain a little more. Where is the red ball in the set up before the swing and where is it when your hands reach impact.
scoremore05 6 months ago
@scoremore05 Freeze the video at :00 and you can see the red ball under the hands at set up. Just before impact at :08 the red ball is above the hands, and above the white box in the middle of the screen.
Not really sure how this is relevant unless you are promoting that your hands should be at different positions in set-up and impact, because that is what is happening here.
casualguy393 6 months ago
I see what you mean @casualguy393 and what you are seeing is me resetting my address position to a new on plane position which no longer requires me to manipulate the golf club through impact.
Thanks for posting.
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B00NES11 7 months ago
I see arm swingage too!
ubercoolhand 7 months ago
@ubercoolhand
Its an illusion look more closely.
ravenwda007 7 months ago
Thanks for posting @ubercoolhand.
scoremore05 6 months ago
good contact, just wrong title i dont no why people complain when half the people on here can't even hit the ball 50 yards
MrMicTickles 7 months ago
I tryed this but the club didn't move.....
unafrade 7 months ago 32
Thanks for posting @unafrade.
The only reason the club didn't move is due to the fact that you didn't turn your shoulders and body. The club will move plenty if you do that.
But please note, you've got a phenomenal swing. No need to change that.
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mralemelle 8 months ago
your wrist angle looks weak as hell thtll never last once u take tht crap off...everyones tryna make inventions but still the best way to learn is hit balls nd figure tht shit out yourself
sichride09 8 months ago 2
Thanks for posting @sichride09.
scoremore05 7 months ago
wow if you think he isnt swinging his arms you got something wrong with your eyes
nick85able 8 months ago
@nick85able
Yah but its the right way to hit the ball. Try hitting a 300 yard drive STRAIGHT with your arms and see what you get. You'll probably miss or spin out and look like 90% of the golfers out there. The swing is an illusion.
ravenwda007 7 months ago
Thanks for posting @ravenwda007. Great comment on the swing being an illusion.
scoremore05 6 months ago
it's 300 yards alright. good swing whether you used your arm or not
idontknowwhatilike 8 months ago
Think of a bicycle wheel tilted to the swing plane; the hands ride the rim, the arms are spokes, and the body is the hub. The spokes/arms move but not independently of the hub - they transport the hands along the rim (on plane). I find it essential to a repeating reliable swing, though results also depend on impact alignments (which can make or break any swing - a separate but required skill to be learned first, IMHO)
gwmerr 8 months ago
Nice post @gwmerr!!I
scoremore05 7 months ago
it's a robotic looking pause, but then in the fluid motion of the swing in movement, you notice the tremendous lag he produces which IS power
johnpcarterful 8 months ago
Thanks for posting @johnpcarterful.
scoremore05 7 months ago
@scoremore05 but...there is an amount of power coming from the arms. i notice most am.'s tend to use too much arm muscle and it messes up the true potential power the hips and turn produce. it's comparable to the grip in a great drive. nothing too tense and overly strengthen, but controlled and loose to produce the powerful lag a player such as ben hogan was rich in manufacturing.
johnpcarterful 7 months ago
@johnpcarterful also.... i love the inside elbow at the pause. just kept nice and in to release a lot of potential energy from the arms and back hip
johnpcarterful 7 months ago
hes barely using his arms lol. you really arent supposed to, most of your power comes from the rotation of your body, you still need your arms to support the club.
n00bpwn3r4t0r 8 months ago
Thanks for posting @n00bpwn3r4t0r.
I agree that I USE my arms and it seems that everyone assumes that the word "USE" is the same as the word "SWING".
And good comment about USING your arms to support the club.
scoremore05 8 months ago
@scoremore05 thanks :)
n00bpwn3r4t0r 8 months ago
oh and by the way.. friggin launched. nice hit! haha
baseballmike44 8 months ago
meh.. let the trolls be trolls. the whole point of this video is that he barely has to swing to hit the ball 300+ yds which most people don't understand. Golf is not about power, it is about contact.. if you make perfect contact, you can swing half speed and hit it just as far
baseballmike44 8 months ago
Thanks for posting @baseballmike44.
scoremore05 8 months ago
Hi Taly, Thanks for the response. Well,today didn't go so well as yesterday. Will have to keep working on it,but I like the concept. Practice.Practice. Practice. Any additional pointers for the pull/push? Bob in PHX
gostanley 8 months ago
Hi @gostanley. Email us a video of your swing to our site and we'll take a look.
scoremore05 8 months ago
Hi Taly.... have seen you vids in the past. I tried your pull/push swing today,and I can honestly say I hit more draws in one day then I have in my lifetime of playing golf. I was hitting the greens with darts today. Very enjoyable round. Irons were fantastic,but still need to work on the driver. Thanks for an alternative way to hit the ball solid. Keep up the good work. Bob in PHX
gostanley 8 months ago
Thanks Bob.
We appreciate the feedback and I like the way you put it: "An alternative way to hit the ball solid".
Because that's really what it is. There are so many ways to impact a golf ball and we just have to find what works for us.
scoremore05 8 months ago
if you dont "swing" or move your arms the clubhead would never come that high from the floor just by twisting your body...its still a powerful swing but you def move your arms..
revchild 8 months ago
Thanks for posting @revchild and I know that it seems impossible, but that's why I do it in slow motion first.
I do it to convince and show my body how far I actually have to turn to accomplish it. Otherwise, my body would just prefer to stop and let my arms fling forward to complete the move. And that's how golfers disconnect from their power.
And please be clear that I don't question whether my arms MOVE. I said I am not swinging them.
scoremore05 8 months ago
I still use your Taly to keep my swing organized. I use a convential swing however because of how you demonstrate the aid, it appears you are doing something different than conventional. You are actually hitting the club Tiger does from hip high down.
I use a different concept to get the club in position in the downswing. It is like throwing a medicine ball from hip high and rotate through keeping arms "passive". The Taly gives me a great physical and visual sensation.
Thanks
sessien 9 months ago
Excellent points @sessien.
When we designed the TALY MIND Set our goal wasn't to tell golfers how to swing. It was to simply give them a reference point so that they could see how everything was moving relative to each other, and therefore repeat any result they liked.
I like the fact that you have your own use for the TALY and I really got a good idea of your move by the medicine ball example that you gave. That feels very connected.
scoremore05 8 months ago
I think what they meant "not swinging arms" is don't uncock your wrist at impact. Cock your wrist only just after impact. In reality, you are really uncocking your wrist in a split of a second just before impact, but this is what you should be thinking in your mind , "don't uncock your wrist". If you are slicing the ball, do an in and out swing.
rontubo 9 months ago
Thanks for posting @rontubo.
I would say that this video is more about what we do with our arms and body, rather than wrists.
With this move, we actually don't hinge our wrists and we also restrict any unhinging which tries to occur as we move into impact.
scoremore05 8 months ago
What do you mean "not swinging arms?" How are you not swinging your arms? lol Just because you pause at the beginning of your take away, you still make a regular swing. Very misleading title.
Humperdink18 9 months ago
Incorrect @Humperdink18, but thanks for posting.
And I will agree with you that that it does look fairly regular. The point being that a regular swing can happen, even when we are not doing the typically suggested moves.
scoremore05 8 months ago
@scoremore05 No, nothing I said was incorrect. You are swinging your arms very clearly. Whether or not you are doing "typically suggested moves" is not germane to the fact that you are swinging your arms. And yes, as I said, the swing is regular with the exception of the obvious pause facilitated by your swing aid.
Humperdink18 8 months ago
Ok @Humperdink18, if you don't mind, please help me understand why I am "very clearly swinging my arms".
scoremore05 8 months ago
Why does everyone take what he is saying literally??? Obviously his arms are moving or technically "swinging" but he is only using his arms to hang on to the club, and he is rotating his hips and shoulders to generate that movement, and the force needed to hit the ball. Sometimes I really wonder what goes on in people's heads.
MustardDick 9 months ago
I am not sure why either @MustardDick.
However I will say that many others (who don't post to youtube) are employing it effectively and do let us know.
The simple point here is that you can eliminate many of the extra moving parts and actually end up generating more power and being more consistent.
For this move, golfers just need to stop advancing their arms relative to their chest.
There are many ways to hit a golf ball, and the intent here is to provide a simplified approach.
scoremore05 9 months ago
YOU'RE SWINGING YOUR ARMS!
NBoston11 9 months ago 2
Thanks for posting @NBoston11.
scoremore05 9 months ago
you should rename the video like: 300 yards swinging with arms
BRIANisALRIGHT 9 months ago 11
Thanks for posting @BRIANisALRIGHT.
Care to share why I should use that name?
scoremore05 9 months ago
@scoremore05 o i don't know, mabey because, HE USED HIS ARMS!!!!!!!
rdsxptchr99 9 months ago
Thanks for posting @rdsxptchr99 but what does that have to do with the title. I never said that I wasn't "using" my arms.
scoremore05 9 months ago
You should rename it Half Swing. But I still like the vid don't get me wrong.
dougiepoolable 9 months ago
Thanks for posting @dougiepoolable.
scoremore05 9 months ago
If he is not using his arms, then how does he hold the club??? isn't the hands connected to the arms?
provic1 10 months ago 2
Thanks for posting @provic1 but please double check our title. We didn't saying anything about "not using" our arms. We agree with you that we use them, we just don't swing them.
scoremore05 10 months ago
Great video bud! I'm thinking of buying this training aide. What does the whole package come with when I order this?
angelleeeee543 10 months ago
that cant be 300
srfin24 10 months ago
hi taly, I stand about 5'3 .. any advice getting xtra yards on the driver. driver is regular with regular length
AROD617 10 months ago
Thanks for posting @AROD617. Two questions for you:
1) How far do you normally hit your drives?
2) What is the furthest you have hit a drive in the past 3 or 4 years?
scoremore05 10 months ago
@scoremore05 I normally hit it about 220. Farthest Ive hit it is 240. I feel like my arms are doing all the work with my body swaying more than turning
AROD617 10 months ago
@scoremore05
I HIT MY DRIVE ABOUT 210 YARDS, furthest ive hit it is 240
AROD617 10 months ago
Hi @AROD617. Bear with us as we get anywhere from 15,000 to 30,000 new visitors a month to the TALY site so I am usually not able to respond right away.
Your initial post asked if I had any advice regarding getting extra yards with the driver and I really can't offer much without seeing your move. I'll send you a direct message and you can email me a video of your swing.
You did mention that the farthest you have hit your drive is 20 yards further so, at the least, we want to repeat that.
scoremore05 10 months ago
@AROD617 hahaha pussy
tylerpat2 10 months ago
@tylerpat2 good thing. or else my handicap of 5 would be lower
AROD617 9 months ago
@scoremore05 ..6 iron 300 yards..Taylormade R5..450 yards....need $ to travel and enter long drive comp....lol
jeffpendergrass500 10 months ago
that shot looked lush though
PgaDriven 10 months ago
Thanks for posting @PgaDriven. You guys sure look like you have fun. Nice video.
scoremore05 10 months ago
All these comments about no hinge in his swing...do you think if he's pulling the golf club through at 100+ miles an hour the weight of the clubhead won't make his wrists hinge on the way down? Food for thought. Don't confuse what you should try to do with what happens.
dschultz6072 10 months ago
Guys he's trying to demonstrate the importance or the body over using your arms. If you notice his arms don't move on his back swing. They only start moving right before he hits the ball to create lag. Great video!
Marsfoo12 10 months ago
Well said @Marsfoo12 and thanks for posting!!!
We're an engineering company and one of the key things I want golfers to understand is that if you want an extremely simplified golf swing, with very few moving parts, which is repeatable and also powerful; then incorporate this approach.
It's simply an alternative that some golfers may want to try out.
scoremore05 10 months ago
It needs to be in slow motion to really prove anything, or demonstrate what actually happens to the viewer. I cant believe people havent figured it out, once at real speed, once in slow motion. It should be law.
kgb007elduderino 10 months ago
I am not sure that I understand your post @TheiMaxo,but as I have said before "why do posters change what I have said and then proceed to tell me that it is inaccurate".
I did not say that my arms are not moving. I said that I am not swinging them. My arms are connected to my shoulders and if my shoulders move, then my arms have moved.
scoremore05 11 months ago
The ball is hit by a shoulder turn, the wrists cock at the top of the swing
Alangolf100 11 months ago
Thanks for posting @Alangolf100. That's sometimes true. It depends on your methodology.
Some teachings want golfers to immediately begin hinging right on the takeaway. Others at the top of the swing like you mentioned.
For the simple, repeatable, and powerful move that we suggest, we don't want them to hinge at all and actually restrict their movement.
Their are more disadvantages than benefits for an average golf having hinging wrist movement.
scoremore05 11 months ago
funny all the mad people, however just a question, you are suggesting that you don't cock your wrist, but at the top the club is cocked past you practice impact angle. Power is generated by the torso and lower body but you do get some power from the unhinging of your wrists, no? Also it looks as though you stand pretty far from the golf ball, is that to account for the smaller amount of wrist cock? thanks for the vids
spartanstackandtilt 11 months ago
Thanks for posting @spartanstackandtilt.
I firm up my left wrist at address and do everthing in my power to not let that wrist position change.
At address, the wrist is already in a slightly hinged position because the left arm and golf shaft are not on the same line.
The distance that I stand from the golf ball is determined by passing the red ball over the golf ball. The red ball shows a golfer their simplest plane for movement and power when it passes over thegolf ball.
scoremore05 11 months ago
You / He is acturly swinging the arms! if you haven't noticed it, it's impossible to shoot without swinging the arms....
so, please RENAME this video to something like " Goofy Man Shooting Like He's Mom " or something...
couse, he IS SWINING THE ARMS!!!
RelaxedGameplays 11 months ago 24
Care to explain your thoughts on why you think I am swinging @RelaxedGameplays or did you simply want to vent?
scoremore05 11 months ago
@scoremore05 i know your good and so on and so fourth...
i know it all, but acturly the last comment was a joke :) - i will ignore it, if i was you.
Best Regards
MrWonnabee 11 months ago
@RelaxedGameplays either you were drunk when writing this, or you're retarded. I hope you're the former, 'cause retards are retarded.
SeaBearisNumber1 8 months ago
@RelaxedGameplays
No he's not!!!!!!!!!!! Its the hips an body that hits the ball. NOT THE ARMS. The arms are just their to support the club. That is why there are only about 100 players on the PGA cause everyone else is fooled by the illusion of the Golf swing. Guys poopin drives 40 yards down the fairway by swinging as hard as they can with the arms. Buying expensive balls that do not go together with their swing speeds and equipment trying to mimik and copy the pros. NO ARMS JUST BODY!!!!
ravenwda007 7 months ago
I didnt hit the roof jusy caught the golf ball with the side of the driver and hit the bar which holds the roof up.
dougiepoolable 1 year ago
HA I tried this and hit the metal bar holding the roof up at the range lol epic fail
dougiepoolable 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @dougiepoolable.
What exactly did you try and how or why did you hit a roof?
scoremore05 1 year ago
i LIEK GOLF!
xwavestr 1 year ago
it might be a bit unusual swing but he is certainly swinging his arms...
bullshit
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago 25
Thanks for posting @DanFrederiksen.
Care to explain why you feel that I am swinging my arms?
scoremore05 1 year ago
@scoremore05 I know it's a tricky concept but if you look at the video you first swing your arms back and then you swing them forward. I'm sure if you concentrate long enough you will understand. if you mean that you don't bend the arm during the swing you do that too..
it's very much like a normal golf swing, maybe a little shorter. but the title is certainly a lie. to push a bs product.
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
@DanFrederiksen. A discussion that's fine, but the profanity used in your other posts is unnecessary and I'll have to remove it so it doesn't offend others.
What's important for golfers to understand in a golf swing is what TO DO and not things that you may feel HAPPEN.
If I'm walking down the street and I AM NOT moving my ears up and down, are my ears still moving? Yes, because my body is moving down the street.
I hold my arms stationary relative to my chest so they don't swing.
scoremore05 1 year ago
@scoremore05 I think I understand what you are doing but when it comes to the actual execution of the swing it is quite normal. locking your arms on the way up is quite irrelevant. you could have a sandwich on the way up. what matters is the swing down. not what you feel happens :)
say you took high speed video from top position and down and left out the initial posing. would it really be much different from a 'normal' swing? and would any tiny nuance make the title honest..
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
Oh boy @DanFrederiksen. Now you're making MY point.
If holding your arms stationary will result in "the normal swing", then that's exactly my point. And many golfers would like to know that.
Otherwise, golfers will believe that their only option is to actively swing their arms and that's not the case.
Holding your arms stationary relative to your chest, and giving yourself the proper spine tilt which is identified when THIS PRODUCT passes over the golf ball, is more than a nuance.
scoremore05 1 year ago
@scoremore05 ok so your point with the video is that being stiff in the arms on the upswing helps make a good normal swing? but that's not what the title says though. and that's not why you got more dislikes than likes.
but the dishonest title got you a lot of views
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
Well @DanFrederiksen, if that's what you got from this title and video, then to each his own.
It's actually more about the downswing and the move into impact then it is about the upswing.
And with regards to the likes/dislikes, that's just the nature of YouTube and this move is not for everyone.
But we are fortunate to be getting 10,000 to 30,000 new golfers a month to the TALY site who are enjoying the information.
It's just an alternative & there are many ways to do it.
scoremore05 1 year ago
Awesome ! I have been working on this lately. I have realised that I am not "connected" throughout my swing, and I love the block as you call it. It works brilliantly my iron shots are dead straight now and consistant, my chipping is unbelievable also with this block method.I tense up my shoulders and arms and basically turn my hips. I love it !
seaeagles96 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @seaeagles96. It doesn't need to be a block but keep doing what you are doing because that's what this game is all about. Being able to repeat your move and your contact.
scoremore05 1 year ago
I like how simplified it is. I think too many golfers are over-techniquing the golf swing. Too many thoughts. Too many moving parts. I personally like a simpler golf swing. Just my opinion.
MikePedersenGolfTips 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @MikePedersenGolfTips.
scoremore05 1 year ago
Steve Stricker method. Very repeatable.
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stevenwkd1 1 year ago
rubbish his arms bend loads if you look at his set up the angle in his elbow =120 degrees ish then on down swing its like towards 90
koolmini5 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @koolmini5.
Which part is rubbish. Are you saying that I am swinging?
scoremore05 1 year ago
I guess this is what the golf swing is moving towards. Strong grip, over the top, and block to hold the face square through impact. Nobody releases the clubhead anymore. Oh well, it is straight and repeatable so more power to you.
par5endos562 1 year ago
Great comment @par5endos562. You're obviously quite knowledgeable.
I don't necessarily agree with everything but I like your take on it.
The ball flight is a draw but I believe you are associating the term "block" to reflect the fact that I am restricting the release of the clubhead.
And thanks for the open mind as I agree that there are many ways to impact a golf ball.
I have no problem with the conventional approach, this one was to find one with the least number of moving parts.
scoremore05 1 year ago
@scoremore05 Right, a "block" is holding the face through impact, or not releasing. There is a great deal of power to be had in releasing properly, but at the cost of accuracy when your timing is thrown off. Your method doesn't seem to rely on timing much, which is good. But, I bet when you fail to reroute over the top and/or release/flip through impact your miss is a wild hook. Right?
par5endos562 1 year ago
Yes my miss is a hook if I allow a release through impact.
scoremore05 1 year ago
@par5endos562 u describe my driver swing perfectly. i used to play a draw consistently off the tee but lost a lot of confidence in it after not playing for a cpl of years and losing my timing etc. i usually play a straight ball or a fade because ive found it much easier to hitting what u accurately describe as a block.
munigolfinghobo 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @munigolfinghobo.
scoremore05 1 year ago
@par5endos562 I still like releasing the club head because if you can hit the ball 300 without releasing the club then you can hit it 375 if you release it
PearlDrumsAllDay94 1 year ago
Excellent point @PearlDrumsAllDay94.
I agree that you can hit it even further.
Our engineering goal however, was to provide a simple, repeatable golf swing which maximized a golfer's power.
scoremore05 1 year ago
@PearlDrumsAllDay94 ... there's no such thing as "releasing the club."
senorchipotle 9 months ago
I don't see why people can't see that your arms are not in use. People take the title swinging without arms literally while what was meant was that the swing is not including arms, but shoulder rotation. This is a cool method for beginners. Good job Taly
JNard829 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @JNard829.
And also thanks for understanding what I have posted.
No one said that this is the be all and end all swing. It's simply a powerful and repeatable method to impact a golf ball because loosely swinging arms and wrists create havoc in our game if we don't put in the time or get to play every other day.
scoremore05 1 year ago
over the top... youre getting too steep on the ball, you need to try and stay behind it driving your lower body through the impact zone before you're upper body
hoosurdody1 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @hoosurdody1.
Sometimes I wonder though. The video hasn't changed but one day people say that I am too steep and the next day that I'm too flat.
I will say this though: It is deep and it does have a nice draw.
scoremore05 1 year ago
pretty sure taly not only moves his arms but also comes right over the top
waltercharliesmith 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @waltercharliesmith.
I never said that I don't move my arms and I would like to ask at which part you feel that I am coming over the top.
scoremore05 1 year ago
your swing looks alot like miguel angel jimenez
daddy2108 1 year ago
Thanks for posting @daddy2108.
scoremore05 1 year ago
You swung your arms. You used your hips and a shoulder turn too. I don't know how you can't see that. If you didn't drive your arms they would be stuck behind you. Simple as that.
WishkazofTreachery 1 year ago