@ hobbestoo.I have sent you a full and frank account of knowing Jim through personal and family contacts.If my enthusiasm offends you,as Jim would say,I Apologise.
@emmalee2225 You can call him Shirley for all I care. It's not your enthusiasm that's offensive, it's your testimonial that wasn't based on facts. BTW Proby's never said I Apologize for anything, he just sang the words to make a buck. The same as he did with this song.
I have met and known, Jim( thats his real name) through his best and worst. at all times, he has been the true, southern, gentleman that you see on the outside. too much too soon?? Would you have been any different? I Doubt it.. He was a superstar. How could he not be, with such vocal ability and looks?
@emmalee2225 Your channel shows you're in the United Kingdom and age 40. You said you knew PJ Proby as a superstar and "through his best" even though you weren't born until 1971. That's interesting.
How many true southern gentlemen do you know and where did you meet them? Do they all openly brag about having been arrested regularly for public drunkenness or about accepting cash bribes from large companies?
His first hit came too easy in England and he thought he was a superstar. A case of too much too soon, alcohol and arrogance ruined him. He's been drawing state benefits for over 25 years and didn't stop drinking till he got scared when his heart stopped. His promoters claim he has character because he sips tea now and belittles other artists - they call it telling it like it is. He's got no class and never did.
@theBESTelvis PJ hasn't been live since the 60's. I saw him at a show in 2006, at least the other artistes on the bill were worth seeing. I heard he wasn't invited back on that tour. A mate saw him early this year and said he made bad jokes about his court case and forgot the words to songs. I don't call that entertaining.
That's great PJ can send himself up like that, Shows his strong character and personality which you have none of, Tell me a singer who never forgets a few words from time to time you clown, He never missed 1 word when i watched him in the Elvis show this year, and i was at the very 1st show where he was singing many songs he's probably never even sang live before, now lets to you comment about that ????
@theBESTelvis You agree those CD's aren't worth the plastic they're burnt on, eh? It appears John Morris is trying to unload his inventory at 10 quid a pop. I've seen PJ's 2011 Promo video as well. The one that shows him on stage singing with a loud band and a bunch of backup singers and trying to do Elvis songs. He's not brilliant even in his advert! I don't throw good money after bad.
PJ's only release of this is on the His Hand in Mine CD recorded in 2002. I threw money away on it and others then and since. I was a big fan of his early records but he hasn't done anything worth a whit since his 1997 Legend album and he owes that one to Marc Almond. Like some other fans, in the past I ignored his sleazy character and unbelievable stories because I enjoyed listening to his records. Now there's nothing left to like.
GO SEE PJ LIVE HE'S BRILLIANT, You've maybe not liked the albums since Legend album because they haven't had the huge input and production that a huge record company can plough into them, But for me...live's where its at, GO SEE HIM..
I've noticed rontenn's comments on other YouTube clips. Comments about P.J. Proby like AMAZING and LEGEND, and telling people to go see his shows. I thought they sounded sort of fishy especially since so many were similar blurbs. I can see now from the comments on this clip who he works for. He says he deals in honesty? Not in my book. Sure looks like spam to me! I'm a little slow sometimes but I'm not stupid.
P.J. did not do the original version of this song,same goes for "You'll never walk alone" but no singer can get anywhere near his so superior recordings of both of these classics.Listen also to the second song on YouTube & read a few comments!
Anybody with the slightest musical knowledge can hear that this is THE version of this beautiful song. Others are excellent but this by P.J. is the very best!
P.J. sings the best version ever of this song.2nd was Elvis & 3rd Frankie Laine. Once again old grizzly has got his facts wrong (yawn!) Proby's recording was released in some countries as an album track in 1965. He also had the song released 10 years ago on CD... a newly recorded version. Grizzly it's almost hibernation time so bye bye!
@rontenn I was talking about the version he's singing in this video, not one on a CD 10 years ago where he sounds like an old man. If Proby released the early version on an album in 1965 why don't you name the album and the countries it was released in instead of pretending you know something. I gather no one thought it was good enough to sell as a single. LOL
@grizzlygalore You didn't even know P.J. re-recorded it 10 years ago but are now pretending you did! Now you're green with envy that I know in which countries the song was released in 1965 & you don't have that info! You really are pathetic! Find out yourself!!
@rontenn Playing more of your I know something you don't know games? Proby's people are so at sea. LOL No one else would waste time comparing that 2002 CD rubbish to Elvis and Frankie Laine. The voice in this video left the building long before 2002.
The rumour you're trying to start about a 1965 release is too late to do Proby any good. The opposite actually. If it was that obscure it was a flop.
@rontenn Put it in your personal list wherever you want it. Frankie Laine's version still holds the all-time record for most weeks spent at number one in the Singles Chart. Proby didn't even release his. Posting your "opinion" of this performance as though you're just another music fan is a waste of space. Your promotion strategy is no secret and it isn't working either.
This guy's a real joker. He's even got on his website that he turned down a nomination to West Point opting for fame in Hollywood. He was only a sophomore at Houston's Lamar High in the 1955/1956 school year. Given his birth date he should have been a senior that year or at the very least a junior. No way was he ever a candidate for prestigious West Point that's known for its strict academic standards.
@erykgee1 PJ Proby was a demo singer in '62-'63 for Ben Weisman, a writer of songs for Elvis movie soundtracks. Weisman employed several demo singers and didn't say which of his songs Proby did during the 2 year period.
Elvis' career spanned 23 years beginning in 1954 (over 600 songs) without Proby showing him how. What do you want people to look up? Follow the breadcrumbs and you'll see that all the tales about Elvis copying Proby have come from PJ Proby and his promoters.
@two46eight The Liz Conway name in his new promo video might be another example of Proby's warped sense of humor. A man who tells jokes about beating up a woman is out of touch with today's world. In a 2010 KOWS radio interview he boasted about being paid a half million in cash by Decca for signing a false letter of indemnity. Proby obviously believes the public condones and even admires abusive and underhanded behavior if the perpetrator had a few hit records 45 years ago.
I noticed the last frame in a new PJ Proby promo video lists his booking agent as Liz Conway with her contact numbers. Proby's joked in interviews about being thrown in the slammer for beating up a woman in the 90's. Wasn't her name Elizabeth Conway?
@rontenn What facts are wrong? So Proby lied about it to make a joke at his friend's expense? If he thinks beating up women is funny he's a hundred years behind the times.
@rontenn So you were there and saw what happened? Proby's version is that he had been in prison because she "beat herself up". It's on the internet for everybody to read and now you expect people to believe you when you say it was no big deal? Not likely.
@two46eight The true meaning of "to beat yourself up" has nothing to do with violence. P.J. is saying she lost her cool & could not cope with their little scuffle. It's a temporary problem in the head!
@rontenn So that's why he was in prison - because she lost her cool? You're the one with the head problem if you believe that one. He already had an arrest record for violence against women so trying to make it sound like a minor disagreement is a farce.
@rontenn Get off your fat butt and find your own facts. An arrest record means he was arrested and he's got one. If he was out in 5 minutes I guess his story about being "in prison" was another one of his lies.
@jen13101j What anti-p.j league and what facts do people have wrong? PJ Proby talks non-stop about himself in radio and streaming interviews. If people are getting it wrong it's from him. Many are fed up with Proby and his supporters claiming big name stars copied him when there's nothing to back it up. The world is full of impersonators and mimics but Proby's the only one I know of who did covers and fobs them off as demos.
@rontenn The recording of those songs happened in the UK instead of the US? Of course everybody but you knows Elvis recorded in the US. You're saying PJ Proby recorded his tracks of Fun in Acapulco & Slowly But Surely in the UK? I thought he didn't go to the UK until 1964. Then you're admitting Proby's tracks were recorded AFTER the Fun in Acapulco soundtrack LP was released in 1963. That makes them COVERS and not demos.
@CategoryStomper If you took the time to use understandable English then possibly the nonsense you write would be more easy to fathom out!! You meant to say "All the ELVIS RECORDING happened!!!" Say so then!! Of course all the Elvis recordings & 99.9% of all his demos were recorded in the USA. Didn't stop you going off once more on an anti Proby rant did it? & jumping to all the wrong conclusions once again! You should think before you babble such s**t! Put a cover on yourself! LOL!
@rontenn Did you lose your train of thought right in the middle of a discussion about two tracks and decide to start a debate about music in the UK in 1963? That's one way to change the subject to something besides the absence of proof those tracks were demos. Those two tracks could have been recorded in 1977 if there are people around stupid enough to believe everything PJ Proby tells them.
@CategoryStomper A debate about music in the UK in 1963? doh! You lost your train of thought long ago. There's a wonderful book out since 2006 called " Writing For The King". Ernst Mikael Jorgensen would have put Proby's 2 demo's on the CD with the book IF they had been discovered on time. He knows they're genuine. Ben Weisman says in the book he used Proby. Ben's a liar?? There are 26 demos done for El by various artistes on the CD,I suppose they were all recorded in 1977! YOU SUCK! !
@rontenn If the demos had been found in time? On another video you mentioned a CooperOwen auction of Proby items. That auction house had a track by Proby of "Slowly But Surely" up for auction in 2003. A track was circulating at "Aloha From Randers" in 2003 with pictures put up on various internet sites. I guess three years later in 2006 Ernst Mikael Jorgensen needed more proof than just empty claims that Proby's track was a demo.
@grizzlygalore The demo disc you talk about was sold in 2003 but the lady that purchased it only gave her permission for it to be put on CD years afterwards that's why it was not in time for the book.Only real Proby fans knew about it at the time. Ernst Mikael knows it's the real deal!!
@rontenn Your story doesn't line up. Permission or not, copies were made at Randers in 2003 and have been recopied and circulated everywhere since then. That lady, whoever she was, bought a disk not the copyright. Jorgensen wouldn't have been getting the legal right to copy from HER even if he had wanted it, which I doubt. It's difficult to believe that a PJ Proby promoter is so ignorant about the laws of copyright.
@grizzlygalore Copies of "Slowly But Surely" made at Randers were done illegally IF copies were made. If the copies were made public the lady owner could have sued! Simple! SHE owns the 10" one sided,78 rpm acetate & for anyone to reproduce from her original without her yes word would have been very ill-mannered & unlawful! Hard to believe there are ignorant people like you around who think to reproduce something not owned by them is normal! Not about the laws of copyright but of decency!
@rontenn I didn't say anything about those copies being legal did I? I only said they existed. YOU not I suggested copies made later with permission from the disk owner are legal.
ALL copies of the disk are illegal without permission from the copyright owner. This includes uploads to youtube or any other internet site as well as copies distributed by any other means. Is the track on youtube uploaded by lindgren33 a copy of the disk the lady purchased at auction?
@rontenn PJ Proby offers free downloads of those tracks from his website and there are CD copies available for a £10 "donation" to his publicity fund. There's a disclaimer about the tracks being for "educational" purposes. Proby seems to BELIEVE he can skirt copyright law by saying the distribution of music tracks is educational.
@rontenn When PJ Proby says something offensive you say he's just telling it like it is. When somebody posts a critical comment about Proby you start talking about their motives. Very funny. I suppose you think he's above the law.
@mitchnerite A fair & honest critical comment about Proby I can take! BUT there are hateful,anti P.J. people who take great joy from being nasty,evil & offensive about anything & everything he does & the words they post are a thousand times worse than anything Proby has ever said or done! Their motives are almost insane!
@rontenn There's nothing insane about saying you can't distribute bootleg music tracks and call it education. Get over it.
With Proby's benefit fraud case looming his organisation should have the sense to remove stuff like that from his website before he gets himself in deeper. But everybody knows none of you have a grain of sense.
I give up guys! Everybody is entitled to his own opinion. The song here is called "I Believe". If you'd like to believe P.J. Proby recorded the songs AFTER Elvis recorded them, that's fine with me. But don't talk about proof, as you don't have any proof either. I'm happy y'all agree Ben Weisman said that P.J. Proby was one of the singers he used to make the demos for Elvis and that it's Proby's voice on the two Ben Weisman songs for Fun In Acapulco. Enjoy your music!
@manjadolan You and the other PJ Proby promoters don't seem to understand that when you're selling something the burden of proof lies with you. It's not smart to tell people what they can and can't talk about either. Proby's organization is promoting his live shows and selling his CD's and other merchandise. Arguing with everyone who asks for proof about his recordings and stories is plain stupid.
@mitchnerite You're the one doing the arguing...you won't accept Elvis was a copy cat sometimes!!! He definitely was, unless you can prove otherwise!! LOL!
@manjadolan If I were you I'd have given up ages ago. Gone is the day you could trot out Proby's Fun in Acapulco & Slowly But Surely demo tale and have people swallow it without question. Do you believe everything you hear simply because you can't disprove it? I guess it's never occurred to you those tracks are too much like Elvis's tracks to be the demos. Who do you think started the stories about Elvis copying demos note for note? Elvis recorded over 600 songs without any help from PJ Proby.
@CategoryStomper If I were you I'd give up!!! Nobody is swallowing your petty anti Proby comments! Elvis copied the Proby demos note for note.....so much for originality!!
@rontenn Nobody is swallowing your petty anti Elvis comments! Nobody who's heard Proby's tall tales believes those covers are demos. Where are all those other "demos" Proby claims he did for Elvis and WHAT were the titles? Proby's so out of it he's even said he did some of the demos for Elvis's Sun recordings in the mid '50s. Maybe it was really PJ Proby on stage in Vegas instead of Elvis! LOL
@CategoryStomper For every 1000 people who know & believe what Proby is saying is the truth there is always 1 or 2 who say the opposite! Us P.J. fans can live with that !! Seems the 1 or 2 odd-balls think they are right all of the time.....well you're not but the minortity never counts in any walk of life! believe what you like,it won't change the facts or make any difference!
@CategoryStomper For every 1000 people who know & believe what Proby is saying is the truth there is always 1 or 2 who say the opposite! Us P.J. fans can live with that !! Seems the 1 or 2 odd-balls think they are right all of the time.....well you're not but the minortity never counts in any walk of life! Believe what you like,it won't change the facts or make any difference!
@rontenn Where did you hide all those people you say know PJ Proby and believe his stories? A few gullible saps across the pond may believe his stories but people in the US, where all the recording happened, do not. I doubt you're having much luck convincing millions of Elvis fans, or even rock 'n' roll fans in general, that The King ever copied anything PJ Proby did. In your dreams maybe.
Of course there is no proof that Proby sang those demos, except of course that everybody could recognize his unique voice. How do you prove that somebody recorded a song??? Is there any proof that Elvis recorded his songs? I never said Elvis copied Proby. Of course he didn't, nor the other way around. Why are you guys having this discussion? They are both artists in their own right. I wish I had a voice like theirs. :) Just be happy that Proby is alive and enjoy his music!
@manjadolan I didn't say YOU said anything. You ask why are we having this discussion? Someone commented they had always been led to believe that Elvis copied PJ Proby. Who led them? There's no shortage of discussions about Proby recordings that are being PROMOTED as "demos". No one's shown any proof they were DEMOS.
Is there proof that Elvis recorded his songs? Don't be ridiculous. Of course there's proof that Elvis recorded his songs, when he recorded them and who was present at the time.
Why doubt it's Proby? You don't deny Elvis learned the songs for the movies from demo's, do you? Ben Weisman states in one of his interviews he used P.J. Proby as a demo singer. P.J. Proby tells us in an interview in 1964 on YouTube that he's done loads of the demos, from Kid Galahad onwards. It's all part of history. Life can be so simple..
@manjadolan After all the wild and conflicting tales PJ Proby has told there's no reason to believe anything he said in 1964 or any other time. His doing SOME demos for Ben Weisman has no relevance. I have no doubt the voice in the two recordings on youtube (Fun in Acapulco and Slowly But Surely) is PJ Proby but I do not believe either recording is a DEMO!!! Am I getting through to you now?
@grizzlygalore You are getting through alright, but it still doesn't make sense. You agree P.J. Proby did some demos for Ben Weisman and you agree Proby is singing Fun In Acapulco and Slowly But Surely, written by Ben Weisman for Elvis. You simply do not believe they were demos. What do you believe?? That Proby recorded the songs after Elvis had recorded them? Why for heaven's sake would he do such a thing? Slowly but Surely wasn't even a hit and wasn't used in a movie until much later.
@manjadolan Proby would do such a thing because he thought he could impress the Brits by sounding like Elvis and getting them to believe Elvis copied him. The songs didn't need to be hits. Where's the proof those Proby tracks were the demos for Elvis? Any demo singer working for someone like Weisman could have recorded a cover (mimicking Elvis) after hearing the movie soundtrack and then claimed it was the demo. Considering all the other untrue claims he's made, that's right up Proby's alley.
@manjadolan Elvis recorded Slowly But Surely in May 1963 and it was released in 1963 (as an extra track) on the Fun In Acapulco soundtrack album. The song was later used in the 1965 film Tickle Me. Aside from PJ Proby's claims, do you have any proof the track you're calling a demo existed before Elvis's recording of May 1963? A bunch of double-talk about loads of demos and part of history doesn't hack it.
It's true that P.J. Proby recorded a lot of songs that were also recorded by Elvis and these were no demos. They had a similar taste in music and both grew up with gospel and black music. However, if you look on YouTube for P.J. Proby Fun In Acapulco and Slowly But Surely you can hear Proby singing the original demo with the original text as written by Ben Weisman. In Acapulco the song ends with: There's work to be done! Proby did all the demos for Ben Weisman and Ruth Batchelor
@manjadolan PJ Proby did not do all the demos for Weisman and Batchelor. Those songwriters had staffs of demo singers they used for songs they wrote for the Elvis movies. Singers like Dorsey Burnette and Glen Campbell. I've listened to the two uploads you mentioned and there isn't anything there to prove they were demo recordings, and there are no pictures of demo disks or original text. The fact that Proby and Elvis sang different lyrics doesn't prove when Proby sang them or why.
@manjadolan From comments on youtube and other sites it's obvious there have been several Proby recordings passed around for years that people assume are original demos. Proby's promoters have repeated vague statements by songwriters that he did demos as their proof that a particular recording by Proby was actually one of those demos. Spreading rumours that Elvis copied PJ Proby is a pathetic marketing ploy.
i loved elvis but i was always led to believe that elvis copied pj proby and after looking it up with the power of the internet pj proby actually wrote songs and recorded demos for elvis....hmmm. but after all that pj is still No.1... ROCK ON MY SON from SCOTLAND........
@MrDjc1970 Who always led you to believe Elvis copied PJ Proby? Although it's been said Proby did demos of some songs written for the Elvis movies, there's no proof Elvis recorded them or ever heard Proby's demos. Dozens of songs were written by different songwriters for each movie. Every song went through multiple screenings and most were eliminated before Elvis ever heard them. PJ Proby did covers of several Elvis recordings and covers can be mistaken for demos.
It's true that P.J. Proby recorded a lot of songs that were also recorded by Elvis and these were no demos. They had a similar taste in music and both grew up with gospel and black music. However, if you look on YouTube for P.J. Proby Fun In Acapulco and Slowly But Surely you can hear Proby singing the original demo with the original text as written by Ben Weisman. In Acapulco the song ends with: There's work to be done!
Proby did all the demos for Ben Weisman and Ruth Batchelor
The great PJ Proby didn't look so great in a news video last week when he showed up at the Worcester Magistrates' Court building. Unaware or uncaring that microphones were on he raked a woman companion over the coals for failing to immediately find the building entrance. The fact she was toting a large carry-case and his hands were void of any burden completed the image of a man thumbing his nose at people in general and women in particular.
@BroaderScope He's always been a publicity hound but I doubt this on camera temper tantrum at age 72 will win him any new fans. Apparently he doesn't even appreciate his old ones.
You're still here? You say PJ Proby's seen THEM ALL come and go. You might wish he were the only one left but there are scores of 60s artistes still performing.
Proby's legendary for badmouthing his competition and now his people are insinuating they've all died or bailed. Inexcusable.
The great P.J. Proby has seen them all come & go but he himself is still here singing better than ever. You'll never hear a better version of this classic & it was the reason why he became an overnight sensation on The Beatles T.V. show in 1964.
To use your favourite comeback - "you were there? Of course not!" And PJ Proby wasn't either. All you have is the word of gossip mongers selling their gossip in book form. When you read only trash books because you're too lazy to read anything else you're part of the problem.
You're certainly quick enough to deny any and all stories you don't like about PJ Proby. Your motives are crystal clear.
Why have EVERYTHING by Elvis if he was only an overrated copyist? You seem to think you can boost Proby's image by saying Elvis doesn't deserve his super-stardom. Proby wore out that tack years ago with his fictitious stories about the two of them growing up together.
Neither you nor Proby have the first inkling what made Elvis the ultimate entertainer. Star quality is not a sing-off. Elvis had IT and PJ Proby didn't. Proby doesn't know what IT is and never will.
@castleontheriver Elvis was in the right place at the right time! Utimately he did deserve his super stardom but without the Colonel discovering him he would have faded into oblivion. Good job Elvis was a "yes" man & listened to the Colonel & did everything he told him to. Proby is a different kind of character....a rebel who makes his own decisions whether for better or worse! He knows he's made mistakes but I bet he would not change a thing!
@rontenn Proby really enjoys that rebel self-image doesn't he? It's too bad he's remembered as the drunk who split his trousers and Elvis is still The King. Incidentally, Jerry Schilling would disagree with you about Elvis being a yes man. It's one of those myths that gossip mongers like you and PJ Proby like to perpetuate.
@castleontheriver Elvis was a yes man to the Colonel. Jerry & the rest of the M.M. were yes men to Elvis. As for a gossip monger I think you are probably the world champion in that department. Now have a pleasant 2011 & do try to get your brain operation done sometime next year!
@rontenn Are you trying to say a park bench made Proby smarter? You're absolutely right about one thing, he didn't say he bonked all those girls silly. But he did say he let his 6-8 year old "nymph-petits" touch some inappropriate parts of his body while he was lying down. That might be legal in England but it sure isn't in the US. I bet he thought it was the same as playing doctor when he was a kid. He's dumb as a tree stump.
Proby told the press in 1965 that after he'd been thrown out of two military schools his father drove him to Hollywood and dumped him on a park bench. It sounds like he'd be a big help with homework doesn't it? No doubt he gave those young girls a lot of lessons in "life in general". I've heard it called many things but never that.
@metrozapjoe There are probably people sleeping on park benches in London with ten times as many brains as the Prime Minister. So don't knock park benches!!
@rontenn If PJ Proby got smarter after he was dumped on a park bench just how stupid was he before then? He's talked about little girls staying overnight with him in his bedroom, mother daughter triangles, and how his live-in woman friend liked little girls too. He didn't say a damn thing about washing and ironing when he told any of that.
@rontenn No imagination required. You just need to know how to read and listen to Proby make an ass of himself in interviews. The fool obviously thinks shooting off his mouth about his hankering for young girls will help sell his CD's.
@two46eight If the old goat didn't want people thinking he was fiddling those girls he wouldn't be talking about his Nymphet Club. Rontenn doesn't have anything better to do than run around putting out the fires Proby sets whenever the media gives him an opening. Proby obviously lost what little mind he had years ago and rontenn calls him a genius. Does that tell you anything?
@rontenn I guess it takes a genius to talk about running an after-school club for young girls so he could "give them an education". Proby's the fool who keeps bringing up his Nymphet Club of Hollywood whenever he's interviewed. You can't shove it under the rug fast enough before he spills his guts again. Too bad you don't like the subject because it seems to be one of Proby's favourites. LOL
@grizzlygalore I love talking about the Nymphet Club.....there were two.One in London in 1965 & the second in Hollywood when P.J. moved there. All the mother's of the girls involved were very happy...P.J. taught their daughter's to iron,wash,clean, etc & he also helped them with their homework from school & improved their knowledge of life in general. He should have been awarded the Nobel Prize for that.
@rontenn You say women around Hollywood happily let their young daughters spend their after school hours with PJ Proby - known mainly for public drunkenness and wild parties - so he could teach them how to do his laundry and clean his house. And they believed he was qualified to help with their school homework too even though he was a high school dropout. Make a new plan Stan - nobody's buying this one.
@two46eight You were there were you? I believe P.J. when he said it was all innocent! If he's such the shithead you think he is then he would have said many years ago that he bonked all the girls silly!! He has not said that because he knows everything was above board. I know the truth hurts but accept it as you will never be able to put any evidence on here to find P.J. a guilty man! In other words STOP wasting my time & your own!
@rontenn Maybe some people in London fell for his BS but women in Hollywood didn't let their underage girls hang out with a NOBODY like PJ Proby. His stories about a Hollywood club to teach girls domestic skills is bunk. He tells this crap to make himself seem just as popular with girls in the US as Elvis was. He has to do something to cover up for those limp wrists he's showing in some of his Shindig performances. If you haven't caught on to that yet you're as loony as Proby is.
@two46eight You're just rambling now about a subject that's dead in the water. Proby maybe had limp wrists on some of his "Shindig" performances....you have a limp brain!
@nawlins4evah As I know it, P.J. grew up in Houston Texas, and as that,s not the deep south, I simply meant(as below) but didn,t put across my comment well enough.
Respond to this video... @CategoryStomper Yes Iv,e never been great on geography, but what I had meant to say, was I thought he had been influenced by the music of the deep south. Realize Houston Texas is not in deep south, but thank you for the geography lesson. If it has influenced his style , musically, is a matter of each persons perception.
@castleontheriver Yes agree with you, there is a huge influence of Billy Eckstine in P.J.,s recording of Somewhere. Mostly I can recognize his original own voice in Hold Me, but no one could disagree that growing up in the deep south, has had a profound influence on P.J,s interpretation of a lot of his recordings. Don,t know if others would agree?
@jen13101j Texas isn't in the deep south geographically or culturally. The deep south is east of the Mississippi River and includes Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina. The southwest region is west of the Mississippi and spans Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah. If PJ Proby knows anything about the deep south he didn't learn it from ever being there. I bet he saw Song of the South and Gone With the Wind, both set in the 1800's.
@CategoryStomper You don't know much about music but your geography is quite good! Question for you....What is the genuine connection between "Song Of The South " & P.J.Proby? You'll probably have to phone a friend!
@rontenn I can see you are just dying to reveal another one of Proby's "genuine connections". Does he say Luana Patten was one of his 12 or 27 common law wives? Or maybe Disney's daughter was a member of his despicable Nymphet Club. What kind of idiot still believes Proby's tales of Hollywood friends and show business connections?
@jen13101j PJ's deep south roots are nothing but a figment of his imagination just like his other fairy tales that naive fans seem to swallow hook, line and sinker.
@vanjane Unless you are over 50, your not likely to have heard of P.J. first time around, but he is doing well at the moment touring. Look up the sixties Gold tour, you may still be able to catch him. Castleontheriver,when P.J. had his original hits, he did not copy anyone.The fact that he can sing in so many different ways, is just another talent.
@jen13101j Maybe his fans don't want to admit he copied other singers but Proby seems proud of it. He's said in interviews that he was aiming for a blend of Billy Eckstine and Dinah Washington when he recorded Somewhere and there's no doubt his version of I Apologise was from Eckstine's version. His albums are full of soundalike covers of U.S. hits like Don't Worry Baby, She's Lookin' Good and Cry Baby. You may think it's a talent but many people think it's just impersonations.
@vanjane Elvis didn't become a superstar because of his voice alone. Were you blown away by great voices when you were a teenager? Elvis was unique and didn't try to look or sound like somebody else. His greatest talent was his ability to grasp what his audience wanted and react to it seamlessly. PJ Proby mimicked the voices of everybody from Nat Cole to the Beach Boys. If you want more clues about where he went wrong watch the PJ Proby: Three-week Hero (part 1 and part 2) videos on youtube.
@castleontheriver Elvis nicked quite a few versions of songs by other artistes & copied them exactly, especially in the early days! Elvis was unique..fair enough! SO WAS P.J.! Read what vanjane said...there are thousands that agree!
@rontenn Thousands of what? Nobody believes PJ Proby has thousands of fans anymore. Why aren't they buying his CD's and going to his shows? When was his last SOLO tour? Get real. Which songs did Elvis copy "exactly" or even close? Are you trying to tell people that Elvis was a mimic like Proby?
@castleontheriver YES! It's a well known fact that Elvis mimicked hundred's of demo discs he received. Including Proby's!!!! Go listen to "Fun In Acapulco" or "Slowly But Surely". He also nicked other people's versions of songs...."White Christmas" by The Drifter's being just one of many!
Proby's last solo tour was in 2009. He's in Sweden now doing 7 shows by the way!
Elvis sang White Christmas like Clyde McPhatter, or was it Bill Pinkney? Are you joking? The similarity in those recordings is the arrangement not their voices.
And you think Elvis was copying PJ Proby when it was Proby's job to do a demo that SOUNDED LIKE ELVIS. Was Elvis supposed to sing it like Al Jolson so he wouldn't sound like himself? With all those "hundreds" this the best you can do?
1956-1977, whatever the arrangement, nobody has to be told who's singing when it's Elvis.
@castleontheriver It was the arrangement I meant of course. I've got everything by Elvis & believe me there are very many copies on record especially in the early days when he didn't really have a style or direction."White Christmas"??? listen to the phrasing too! Elvis copied the way the demo singers did the songs cause that was nice & easy! So in theory he was copying demo copies of himself!
@vanjane He is fantastic but there has always been a vendetta against him as you can read by the nasty cheap comments on this clip. Us fans are used to it just as P.J. is & he ignores their rubbish comments & advises us to do the same. Whatever crap they write it makes no difference.....as one fan shouted out at a concert "P.J.....You are the real King"! NUFF SAID
@rontenn You think I should to take YOUR word for who Proby's friends are and whether they're happy? Who are YOU? Do you talk to Dottie Harmony often? Ha! The way Proby tells it he's best friends with everybody important especially movie and music stars who're 6 feet under. He seems to PREFER the dead or reclusive stars actually. I guess they aren't as likely to show up without warning and ask who he is.
@ITSTHETRUTHOK Do you think because you picked this username, you can post anything you feel like, along with the usual language accociated with no intelligence you use to put across YOURLIESOK and people will automatically believe you? No ones a saint, but this is getting old , OK. and ITS THETRUTHOK
@castleontheriver In 1968 Proby's fiancee broke their engagement when she learned he was still married to his first wife. He actually had a different wife at that time (who knows how many more) which would have been bigamy (a crime). PJ Proby is obviously too much of a genius to worry about morality or ethics or laws. Rontenn thinks badmouthing Dottie Harmony excuses Proby's behavior. He's also excused PJ's beating up his girlfriend in 1992 with "she can take care of herself!" Brilliant!
@two46eight Dotty & P.J. are still the best of friends. The lady you talk about from 1992 is also still the best of friends with P.J. I know them both as well as P.J! So if they are all happy then what's YOUR problem?
@rontenn You need to look deeper. If you want anybody to believe it's all unimportant and in the past tell Proby to stop running off at the mouth in public. He doesn't know wild from ghastly and neither do you.
@two46eight It's your mouth that is running off.Stop raking up old rubbish...it's all water under the bridge.Put your time to better use is my advice. One or two people on You Tube are obsessed with all the bad things P.J. allegedly said & did. In my eyes a genius can do the **** that he wants!
@rontenn In her book "Summertime Blues" Sharon Sheeley said Dottie Harmony "dropped him like a bad habit" when "she came to realize that his behaviour was rather demented, to put it mildly, and she figured he would never change". Smart lady. Sheeley also said "he had two wives at the same time, neither had a clue" and "he had gone as far as to sign with four different record labels at the same time" and exclusive contracts "meant nothing to him". PJ Proby's a real genius.
@castleontheriver. Dotty & P.J. are still the best of friends. It's true P.J. was a wild young man..is that a crime? You got one part of your message correct " PJ Proby's a real genius" Thanks for that!
@rontenn It looks like Proby's the one who keeps raking up old rubbish. In an interview last month in Eulogy magazine he was still boasting about his Nymphet Club of Hollywood for girls aged 11 to 15. How can anybody top that for rubbish? Hasn't he figured out by now that the only people impressed by this are pedos?
@two46eight You must have scoured the internet to find that interview.....have you nothing better to do with your time.The editor of the magazine was very, very impressed by P.J. As for the Nymphet Club.....it was all FUN! Your dirty imagination has turned it into something else! I bet Bill & Ben are gay in your mind & Sooty & Sweep two perverts! God knows what you think about the guy with his hands up their butts!! You're pathetic!...& very sad!
@rontenn A guy in his mid twenties running a NYMPHET club for girls ages 11-15 in his home? Yes, I bet he had FUN! What do you think he was doing with them, playing tiddlywinks? Or maybe he was teaching them how to knit? You really are an ignorant twit if you think it takes imagination to figure out what he was doing.
@two46eight. Until we hear from one of the young girls in the Nymphet Club about what happened then I've got as much chance of being correct as you. I thought the saying was: Innocent until proven guilty! No-one can be found guilty on someone elses imagination running riot!
@rontenn What's with all this innocent until proven guilty jargon? Public opinion doesn't follow court procedure. If you believe it was all innocent fun then that makes one of you. Is Proby a eunuch?
@two46eight. In all civilised countries that is how it is.Public opinion doesn't come into it! Half the general public are like you...THICK! Although you might think because of some of the unbelievable high note he hits, P.J. is not a eunuch. He's a Christian! & he believes! LOL! You need your dirty little mind cleansing...your standards are thankfully not everyone's. I class you in the thick AND perverted category! Have you found a nymphet yet to ask?
two46eight. Can only read the comments they make, which continually reflect an obsession with this subject. I have seen both two week hero videos and find it difficult to believe he said certain things. Obviously he did. I was pointing out, forget the trousers, there are many more sides to the P J debate.
Do you all honestly think anyone still cares whether he split his silly pants? If they care about anything it's the out to lunch things he's done since then. Forget about one inch rips and wake up! For starters check out the Three-week Hero, Part 2 video and the comments posted by someone who was there.
@two46eight You are looking much too deep!! lighten up! It's all long ago in the past & not really important. Just like Mick Jagger took a pee in the street ages ago....big deal at the time but of no importance whatsoever now! as samesongtonight 1 said...just enjoy the music.
@akindofblue3 Will it never end, the "speculation" that p j split his trousers?. A one inch rip inside the knee, ends a great singers career, and thats all people who don,t know, want to talk about? Just enjoy the music. P J is 72 now, can we forget about the split. If it was now , it would never be noticed. Tom Jones did well out of it though!
I think the comments below are missing the point - Youtube provides global exposure and a chance for many of us to enjoy rare stuff that has not seen the light of day for years - I grew up with Proby and I've had a ball today seeing and hearing stuff I couldn't dream of finding anywhere else - why do you need to turn this into a pissing contest... I don't get it. Just enjoy the man or go away and play with your dummy.
I don't care if PJ split his pants from his ankle to his crotch.What matters to me is hearing that beautiful voice.The past is long gone.I'm just glad that PJ isstill with us,and still thrilling his fans with that beautiful voice.
Is this SNL? Who is this flake? Do other worse for wear singers get guys like rontenn to knock heads on youtube or is it just Proby. Why would anybody with an ounce of sanity think this yo-yo is going to jack up their sales. Proby must not have sense enough to know people say whatever they want to on youtube and no would be bouncer is going to stop them. Unbelievable.
The comments on this video are a riot! It's plain as day people have been playing "stick the pin in rontenn and listen to him squeal" for months and he's too stupid to catch on. The bestelvis dude is almost as smart too. If those two jokers are all Proby can get to beef up his sales he might as well pack it in.
@rontenn I'm sure you never saw Elvis live on stage or you would have said you did.
The definition of swearing doesn't eliminate words that can be heard in broadcast media or anywhere else so you have no argument on that score. You are confusing swearing with obscenity. You've used words generally considered swear words by most of society. Swearing or not, I've come across few adults with vocabularies as limited as yours and theBESTelvis'. Is it a trait prevalent among some Proby fans?
@oldtowntonight . What you think & what is fact are miles apart. Thanks for the very explicit explanation of what is a swear word & what is not. Very interesting!ZZZZZZZ Have you got any friends? I doubt it & I now know why! You say my vocabulary is limited. I say that your brain is even more limited.....is this a trait prevalent among the very few Proby haters?
@rontenn You told oldtowntonight to look swear word up in the dictionary and when he does you find the subject terribly boring. True to form. Metrozapjoe's assessment of your sales promotion strategy is right on. You said CD sales aren't doing TOO BADLY? Over the whole age group range of WHAT? Your little group of Proby fans did their duty and bought a few and that was the end of it. It would have sold better if it had been banned.
@grizzlygalore Look swear word up to open his little mind not mine! I am not doing any sales promotion so that's another no ! no! Are you lot on drugs or something. You do talk such juvenile rubbish! I see theBESTelvis is getting stuck into you lot & all the naughty swear words he is using are very apt! The CD is still selling & has just had a great review in a German music mag. You lot are stuck in a very small pathetic world but I suppose it's too late now for you to change that.
@oltowntonight I saw where rontenn challenged you for an example of his swearing. He's known for a short memory of uncomplimentary comments he posts about artistes other than Proby. He forgets other things as well. I have a comment he made to me that that I'm sure he doesn't want repeated here. It's been removed from the youtube video (?) but I have it in my inbox. Rontenn doesn't know how to count to 10 before he posts. It is only one of several comments that disappeared from various videos.
@rontenn Now we have another sad story about banning, blacklisting, and snubbing. Always convenient when it comes down to why something of Proby's didn't sell. Was this another one of those 40 year things? You've managed to turn the actions of one music critic into all out blacklisting. How could those records get good press reviews if nobody ever heard them? Those Savoy recordings have been available for many years. If you haven't found that out yet you don't know much.
@ hobbestoo.I have sent you a full and frank account of knowing Jim through personal and family contacts.If my enthusiasm offends you,as Jim would say,I Apologise.
emmalee2225 2 months ago
@emmalee2225 You can call him Shirley for all I care. It's not your enthusiasm that's offensive, it's your testimonial that wasn't based on facts. BTW Proby's never said I Apologize for anything, he just sang the words to make a buck. The same as he did with this song.
hobbestoo 2 months ago
I have met and known, Jim( thats his real name) through his best and worst. at all times, he has been the true, southern, gentleman that you see on the outside. too much too soon?? Would you have been any different? I Doubt it.. He was a superstar. How could he not be, with such vocal ability and looks?
emmalee2225 2 months ago
@emmalee2225 Your channel shows you're in the United Kingdom and age 40. You said you knew PJ Proby as a superstar and "through his best" even though you weren't born until 1971. That's interesting.
How many true southern gentlemen do you know and where did you meet them? Do they all openly brag about having been arrested regularly for public drunkenness or about accepting cash bribes from large companies?
hobbestoo 2 months ago
His first hit came too easy in England and he thought he was a superstar. A case of too much too soon, alcohol and arrogance ruined him. He's been drawing state benefits for over 25 years and didn't stop drinking till he got scared when his heart stopped. His promoters claim he has character because he sips tea now and belittles other artists - they call it telling it like it is. He's got no class and never did.
hobbestoo 3 months ago
@theBESTelvis PJ hasn't been live since the 60's. I saw him at a show in 2006, at least the other artistes on the bill were worth seeing. I heard he wasn't invited back on that tour. A mate saw him early this year and said he made bad jokes about his court case and forgot the words to songs. I don't call that entertaining.
kendall156 4 months ago
@kendall156
That's great PJ can send himself up like that, Shows his strong character and personality which you have none of, Tell me a singer who never forgets a few words from time to time you clown, He never missed 1 word when i watched him in the Elvis show this year, and i was at the very 1st show where he was singing many songs he's probably never even sang live before, now lets to you comment about that ????
theBESTelvis 3 months ago
@theBESTelvis You agree those CD's aren't worth the plastic they're burnt on, eh? It appears John Morris is trying to unload his inventory at 10 quid a pop. I've seen PJ's 2011 Promo video as well. The one that shows him on stage singing with a loud band and a bunch of backup singers and trying to do Elvis songs. He's not brilliant even in his advert! I don't throw good money after bad.
kendall156 4 months ago
@kendall156
Twisting whats been said again , like you always do.
go watch him LIVE !! forget the cds for a minute, your comments are pathetic
theBESTelvis 4 months ago
PJ's only release of this is on the His Hand in Mine CD recorded in 2002. I threw money away on it and others then and since. I was a big fan of his early records but he hasn't done anything worth a whit since his 1997 Legend album and he owes that one to Marc Almond. Like some other fans, in the past I ignored his sleazy character and unbelievable stories because I enjoyed listening to his records. Now there's nothing left to like.
kendall156 4 months ago
@kendall156
GO SEE PJ LIVE HE'S BRILLIANT, You've maybe not liked the albums since Legend album because they haven't had the huge input and production that a huge record company can plough into them, But for me...live's where its at, GO SEE HIM..
theBESTelvis 4 months ago
I've noticed rontenn's comments on other YouTube clips. Comments about P.J. Proby like AMAZING and LEGEND, and telling people to go see his shows. I thought they sounded sort of fishy especially since so many were similar blurbs. I can see now from the comments on this clip who he works for. He says he deals in honesty? Not in my book. Sure looks like spam to me! I'm a little slow sometimes but I'm not stupid.
murphysaidso 4 months ago
P.J. did not do the original version of this song,same goes for "You'll never walk alone" but no singer can get anywhere near his so superior recordings of both of these classics.Listen also to the second song on YouTube & read a few comments!
rontenn 4 months ago
Anybody with the slightest musical knowledge can hear that this is THE version of this beautiful song. Others are excellent but this by P.J. is the very best!
rontenn 4 months ago
P.J. sings the best version ever of this song.2nd was Elvis & 3rd Frankie Laine. Once again old grizzly has got his facts wrong (yawn!) Proby's recording was released in some countries as an album track in 1965. He also had the song released 10 years ago on CD... a newly recorded version. Grizzly it's almost hibernation time so bye bye!
rontenn 4 months ago
@rontenn I was talking about the version he's singing in this video, not one on a CD 10 years ago where he sounds like an old man. If Proby released the early version on an album in 1965 why don't you name the album and the countries it was released in instead of pretending you know something. I gather no one thought it was good enough to sell as a single. LOL
grizzlygalore 4 months ago
@grizzlygalore You didn't even know P.J. re-recorded it 10 years ago but are now pretending you did! Now you're green with envy that I know in which countries the song was released in 1965 & you don't have that info! You really are pathetic! Find out yourself!!
rontenn 4 months ago
@rontenn Playing more of your I know something you don't know games? Proby's people are so at sea. LOL No one else would waste time comparing that 2002 CD rubbish to Elvis and Frankie Laine. The voice in this video left the building long before 2002.
The rumour you're trying to start about a 1965 release is too late to do Proby any good. The opposite actually. If it was that obscure it was a flop.
grizzlygalore 4 months ago
@grizzlygalore I don't "do" rumours.....unlike you I deal in facts & honesty! Now do us all a favour & YOU leave the building!
rontenn 4 months ago
Listen to this! AMAZING! Puts the version by Elvis firmly into 2nd or even 3rd place!
rontenn 5 months ago
@rontenn Put it in your personal list wherever you want it. Frankie Laine's version still holds the all-time record for most weeks spent at number one in the Singles Chart. Proby didn't even release his. Posting your "opinion" of this performance as though you're just another music fan is a waste of space. Your promotion strategy is no secret and it isn't working either.
grizzlygalore 4 months ago
@grizzlygalore
Yes...a what a great shame PJ's wasn't released as a single...it bows Frankie Laine's and EVERYBODY else's out the water, END OF !!
theBESTelvis 4 months ago
This guy's a real joker. He's even got on his website that he turned down a nomination to West Point opting for fame in Hollywood. He was only a sophomore at Houston's Lamar High in the 1955/1956 school year. Given his birth date he should have been a senior that year or at the very least a junior. No way was he ever a candidate for prestigious West Point that's known for its strict academic standards.
virtualpager 5 months ago
this is the real thing. He helped Elvis,, look it up,this man was call to do the songs and them Elvis will follow ,Elvis had Tom Parker..
erykgee1 7 months ago
@erykgee1 PJ Proby was a demo singer in '62-'63 for Ben Weisman, a writer of songs for Elvis movie soundtracks. Weisman employed several demo singers and didn't say which of his songs Proby did during the 2 year period.
Elvis' career spanned 23 years beginning in 1954 (over 600 songs) without Proby showing him how. What do you want people to look up? Follow the breadcrumbs and you'll see that all the tales about Elvis copying Proby have come from PJ Proby and his promoters.
CategoryStomper 7 months ago
are you kidding ,this man showed Elvis how to do a song,
maybe Elvis and PJ where good friends.
erykgee1 7 months ago
he is miming to elvis
timobugger1 7 months ago
@two46eight The Liz Conway name in his new promo video might be another example of Proby's warped sense of humor. A man who tells jokes about beating up a woman is out of touch with today's world. In a 2010 KOWS radio interview he boasted about being paid a half million in cash by Decca for signing a false letter of indemnity. Proby obviously believes the public condones and even admires abusive and underhanded behavior if the perpetrator had a few hit records 45 years ago.
DenimAllowed 7 months ago
I noticed the last frame in a new PJ Proby promo video lists his booking agent as Liz Conway with her contact numbers. Proby's joked in interviews about being thrown in the slammer for beating up a woman in the 90's. Wasn't her name Elizabeth Conway?
two46eight 7 months ago
@two46eight The facts from that episode were all wrong! P.J. & Elizabeth have always been, & still are, the best of friends!
rontenn 5 months ago
@rontenn What facts are wrong? So Proby lied about it to make a joke at his friend's expense? If he thinks beating up women is funny he's a hundred years behind the times.
two46eight 5 months ago
@two46eight They gave each other a push & a shove.....big deal!
rontenn 5 months ago
@rontenn So you were there and saw what happened? Proby's version is that he had been in prison because she "beat herself up". It's on the internet for everybody to read and now you expect people to believe you when you say it was no big deal? Not likely.
two46eight 5 months ago
@two46eight The true meaning of "to beat yourself up" has nothing to do with violence. P.J. is saying she lost her cool & could not cope with their little scuffle. It's a temporary problem in the head!
rontenn 5 months ago
@rontenn So that's why he was in prison - because she lost her cool? You're the one with the head problem if you believe that one. He already had an arrest record for violence against women so trying to make it sound like a minor disagreement is a farce.
two46eight 5 months ago
@two46eight He was in & out in 5 minutes!! Give us the facts about his arrest record against women..names & places etc. I BELIEVE you cannot!
rontenn 5 months ago
@rontenn Get off your fat butt and find your own facts. An arrest record means he was arrested and he's got one. If he was out in 5 minutes I guess his story about being "in prison" was another one of his lies.
two46eight 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@two46eight In other words you have no facts!! Thought so!
rontenn 5 months ago
@jen13101j What anti-p.j league and what facts do people have wrong? PJ Proby talks non-stop about himself in radio and streaming interviews. If people are getting it wrong it's from him. Many are fed up with Proby and his supporters claiming big name stars copied him when there's nothing to back it up. The world is full of impersonators and mimics but Proby's the only one I know of who did covers and fobs them off as demos.
mitchnerite 7 months ago
@theBESTtelvis So many people who only know of P.J. on youtube, the anti-p.j league, have so many what they think of as facts, totally wrong.
jen13101j 8 months ago
A great clip on YOU Tube is "P.J.Proby sings Elvis medley" Very interesting comments too. Please take a look Proby fans & non fans!!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn The recording of those songs happened in the UK instead of the US? Of course everybody but you knows Elvis recorded in the US. You're saying PJ Proby recorded his tracks of Fun in Acapulco & Slowly But Surely in the UK? I thought he didn't go to the UK until 1964. Then you're admitting Proby's tracks were recorded AFTER the Fun in Acapulco soundtrack LP was released in 1963. That makes them COVERS and not demos.
CategoryStomper 8 months ago
@CategoryStomper If you took the time to use understandable English then possibly the nonsense you write would be more easy to fathom out!! You meant to say "All the ELVIS RECORDING happened!!!" Say so then!! Of course all the Elvis recordings & 99.9% of all his demos were recorded in the USA. Didn't stop you going off once more on an anti Proby rant did it? & jumping to all the wrong conclusions once again! You should think before you babble such s**t! Put a cover on yourself! LOL!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn Did you lose your train of thought right in the middle of a discussion about two tracks and decide to start a debate about music in the UK in 1963? That's one way to change the subject to something besides the absence of proof those tracks were demos. Those two tracks could have been recorded in 1977 if there are people around stupid enough to believe everything PJ Proby tells them.
CategoryStomper 8 months ago
@CategoryStomper A debate about music in the UK in 1963? doh! You lost your train of thought long ago. There's a wonderful book out since 2006 called " Writing For The King". Ernst Mikael Jorgensen would have put Proby's 2 demo's on the CD with the book IF they had been discovered on time. He knows they're genuine. Ben Weisman says in the book he used Proby. Ben's a liar?? There are 26 demos done for El by various artistes on the CD,I suppose they were all recorded in 1977! YOU SUCK! !
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn If the demos had been found in time? On another video you mentioned a CooperOwen auction of Proby items. That auction house had a track by Proby of "Slowly But Surely" up for auction in 2003. A track was circulating at "Aloha From Randers" in 2003 with pictures put up on various internet sites. I guess three years later in 2006 Ernst Mikael Jorgensen needed more proof than just empty claims that Proby's track was a demo.
grizzlygalore 8 months ago
@grizzlygalore The demo disc you talk about was sold in 2003 but the lady that purchased it only gave her permission for it to be put on CD years afterwards that's why it was not in time for the book.Only real Proby fans knew about it at the time. Ernst Mikael knows it's the real deal!!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn Your story doesn't line up. Permission or not, copies were made at Randers in 2003 and have been recopied and circulated everywhere since then. That lady, whoever she was, bought a disk not the copyright. Jorgensen wouldn't have been getting the legal right to copy from HER even if he had wanted it, which I doubt. It's difficult to believe that a PJ Proby promoter is so ignorant about the laws of copyright.
grizzlygalore 8 months ago
@grizzlygalore Copies of "Slowly But Surely" made at Randers were done illegally IF copies were made. If the copies were made public the lady owner could have sued! Simple! SHE owns the 10" one sided,78 rpm acetate & for anyone to reproduce from her original without her yes word would have been very ill-mannered & unlawful! Hard to believe there are ignorant people like you around who think to reproduce something not owned by them is normal! Not about the laws of copyright but of decency!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn I didn't say anything about those copies being legal did I? I only said they existed. YOU not I suggested copies made later with permission from the disk owner are legal.
ALL copies of the disk are illegal without permission from the copyright owner. This includes uploads to youtube or any other internet site as well as copies distributed by any other means. Is the track on youtube uploaded by lindgren33 a copy of the disk the lady purchased at auction?
grizzlygalore 8 months ago
@grizzlygalore ASK HIM! I believe so! By the way this is the BEST version of "I Believe" I have ever heard !!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn PJ Proby offers free downloads of those tracks from his website and there are CD copies available for a £10 "donation" to his publicity fund. There's a disclaimer about the tracks being for "educational" purposes. Proby seems to BELIEVE he can skirt copyright law by saying the distribution of music tracks is educational.
mitchnerite 8 months ago
@mitchnerite Well said!! NOT! More spitefulness.....it's pathetic!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn When PJ Proby says something offensive you say he's just telling it like it is. When somebody posts a critical comment about Proby you start talking about their motives. Very funny. I suppose you think he's above the law.
mitchnerite 8 months ago
@mitchnerite A fair & honest critical comment about Proby I can take! BUT there are hateful,anti P.J. people who take great joy from being nasty,evil & offensive about anything & everything he does & the words they post are a thousand times worse than anything Proby has ever said or done! Their motives are almost insane!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn There's nothing insane about saying you can't distribute bootleg music tracks and call it education. Get over it.
With Proby's benefit fraud case looming his organisation should have the sense to remove stuff like that from his website before he gets himself in deeper. But everybody knows none of you have a grain of sense.
castleontheriver 8 months ago
@castleontheriver Three words spring to mind!....POT....KETTLE....BLACK!! LOL!
rontenn 8 months ago
@castleontheriver
enjoy PJ's AMAZING !! ISN'T HE JUST SOMETHING ELSE EH ,
theBESTelvis 8 months ago
I give up guys! Everybody is entitled to his own opinion. The song here is called "I Believe". If you'd like to believe P.J. Proby recorded the songs AFTER Elvis recorded them, that's fine with me. But don't talk about proof, as you don't have any proof either. I'm happy y'all agree Ben Weisman said that P.J. Proby was one of the singers he used to make the demos for Elvis and that it's Proby's voice on the two Ben Weisman songs for Fun In Acapulco. Enjoy your music!
manjadolan 9 months ago
@manjadolan You and the other PJ Proby promoters don't seem to understand that when you're selling something the burden of proof lies with you. It's not smart to tell people what they can and can't talk about either. Proby's organization is promoting his live shows and selling his CD's and other merchandise. Arguing with everyone who asks for proof about his recordings and stories is plain stupid.
mitchnerite 9 months ago
@mitchnerite You're the one doing the arguing...you won't accept Elvis was a copy cat sometimes!!! He definitely was, unless you can prove otherwise!! LOL!
rontenn 8 months ago
@manjadolan If I were you I'd have given up ages ago. Gone is the day you could trot out Proby's Fun in Acapulco & Slowly But Surely demo tale and have people swallow it without question. Do you believe everything you hear simply because you can't disprove it? I guess it's never occurred to you those tracks are too much like Elvis's tracks to be the demos. Who do you think started the stories about Elvis copying demos note for note? Elvis recorded over 600 songs without any help from PJ Proby.
CategoryStomper 8 months ago
@CategoryStomper If I were you I'd give up!!! Nobody is swallowing your petty anti Proby comments! Elvis copied the Proby demos note for note.....so much for originality!!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn Nobody is swallowing your petty anti Elvis comments! Nobody who's heard Proby's tall tales believes those covers are demos. Where are all those other "demos" Proby claims he did for Elvis and WHAT were the titles? Proby's so out of it he's even said he did some of the demos for Elvis's Sun recordings in the mid '50s. Maybe it was really PJ Proby on stage in Vegas instead of Elvis! LOL
CategoryStomper 8 months ago
@CategoryStomper For every 1000 people who know & believe what Proby is saying is the truth there is always 1 or 2 who say the opposite! Us P.J. fans can live with that !! Seems the 1 or 2 odd-balls think they are right all of the time.....well you're not but the minortity never counts in any walk of life! believe what you like,it won't change the facts or make any difference!
rontenn 8 months ago
@CategoryStomper For every 1000 people who know & believe what Proby is saying is the truth there is always 1 or 2 who say the opposite! Us P.J. fans can live with that !! Seems the 1 or 2 odd-balls think they are right all of the time.....well you're not but the minortity never counts in any walk of life! Believe what you like,it won't change the facts or make any difference!
rontenn 8 months ago
@rontenn Where did you hide all those people you say know PJ Proby and believe his stories? A few gullible saps across the pond may believe his stories but people in the US, where all the recording happened, do not. I doubt you're having much luck convincing millions of Elvis fans, or even rock 'n' roll fans in general, that The King ever copied anything PJ Proby did. In your dreams maybe.
CategoryStomper 8 months ago
@CategoryStomper In the US where all the recording happened...ha ! ha! The U.K left you lot standing with your big gobs open!!!
rontenn 8 months ago
Of course there is no proof that Proby sang those demos, except of course that everybody could recognize his unique voice. How do you prove that somebody recorded a song??? Is there any proof that Elvis recorded his songs? I never said Elvis copied Proby. Of course he didn't, nor the other way around. Why are you guys having this discussion? They are both artists in their own right. I wish I had a voice like theirs. :) Just be happy that Proby is alive and enjoy his music!
manjadolan 9 months ago
@manjadolan I didn't say YOU said anything. You ask why are we having this discussion? Someone commented they had always been led to believe that Elvis copied PJ Proby. Who led them? There's no shortage of discussions about Proby recordings that are being PROMOTED as "demos". No one's shown any proof they were DEMOS.
Is there proof that Elvis recorded his songs? Don't be ridiculous. Of course there's proof that Elvis recorded his songs, when he recorded them and who was present at the time.
grizzlygalore 9 months ago
@grizzlygalore
Why doubt it's Proby? You don't deny Elvis learned the songs for the movies from demo's, do you? Ben Weisman states in one of his interviews he used P.J. Proby as a demo singer. P.J. Proby tells us in an interview in 1964 on YouTube that he's done loads of the demos, from Kid Galahad onwards. It's all part of history. Life can be so simple..
manjadolan 9 months ago
@manjadolan After all the wild and conflicting tales PJ Proby has told there's no reason to believe anything he said in 1964 or any other time. His doing SOME demos for Ben Weisman has no relevance. I have no doubt the voice in the two recordings on youtube (Fun in Acapulco and Slowly But Surely) is PJ Proby but I do not believe either recording is a DEMO!!! Am I getting through to you now?
grizzlygalore 9 months ago
@grizzlygalore You are getting through alright, but it still doesn't make sense. You agree P.J. Proby did some demos for Ben Weisman and you agree Proby is singing Fun In Acapulco and Slowly But Surely, written by Ben Weisman for Elvis. You simply do not believe they were demos. What do you believe?? That Proby recorded the songs after Elvis had recorded them? Why for heaven's sake would he do such a thing? Slowly but Surely wasn't even a hit and wasn't used in a movie until much later.
manjadolan 9 months ago
@manjadolan Proby would do such a thing because he thought he could impress the Brits by sounding like Elvis and getting them to believe Elvis copied him. The songs didn't need to be hits. Where's the proof those Proby tracks were the demos for Elvis? Any demo singer working for someone like Weisman could have recorded a cover (mimicking Elvis) after hearing the movie soundtrack and then claimed it was the demo. Considering all the other untrue claims he's made, that's right up Proby's alley.
mitchnerite 9 months ago
@manjadolan Elvis recorded Slowly But Surely in May 1963 and it was released in 1963 (as an extra track) on the Fun In Acapulco soundtrack album. The song was later used in the 1965 film Tickle Me. Aside from PJ Proby's claims, do you have any proof the track you're calling a demo existed before Elvis's recording of May 1963? A bunch of double-talk about loads of demos and part of history doesn't hack it.
two46eight 9 months ago
@mitchnerite
It's true that P.J. Proby recorded a lot of songs that were also recorded by Elvis and these were no demos. They had a similar taste in music and both grew up with gospel and black music. However, if you look on YouTube for P.J. Proby Fun In Acapulco and Slowly But Surely you can hear Proby singing the original demo with the original text as written by Ben Weisman. In Acapulco the song ends with: There's work to be done! Proby did all the demos for Ben Weisman and Ruth Batchelor
manjadolan 9 months ago
@manjadolan PJ Proby did not do all the demos for Weisman and Batchelor. Those songwriters had staffs of demo singers they used for songs they wrote for the Elvis movies. Singers like Dorsey Burnette and Glen Campbell. I've listened to the two uploads you mentioned and there isn't anything there to prove they were demo recordings, and there are no pictures of demo disks or original text. The fact that Proby and Elvis sang different lyrics doesn't prove when Proby sang them or why.
mitchnerite 9 months ago
@manjadolan From comments on youtube and other sites it's obvious there have been several Proby recordings passed around for years that people assume are original demos. Proby's promoters have repeated vague statements by songwriters that he did demos as their proof that a particular recording by Proby was actually one of those demos. Spreading rumours that Elvis copied PJ Proby is a pathetic marketing ploy.
grizzlygalore 9 months ago
i loved elvis but i was always led to believe that elvis copied pj proby and after looking it up with the power of the internet pj proby actually wrote songs and recorded demos for elvis....hmmm. but after all that pj is still No.1... ROCK ON MY SON from SCOTLAND........
MrDjc1970 9 months ago
@MrDjc1970 Who always led you to believe Elvis copied PJ Proby? Although it's been said Proby did demos of some songs written for the Elvis movies, there's no proof Elvis recorded them or ever heard Proby's demos. Dozens of songs were written by different songwriters for each movie. Every song went through multiple screenings and most were eliminated before Elvis ever heard them. PJ Proby did covers of several Elvis recordings and covers can be mistaken for demos.
mitchnerite 9 months ago
@mitchnerite kind regards to your reply....thanks for your added info, much appreciated. i still love both artists.
MrDjc1970 9 months ago
@mitchnerite
It's true that P.J. Proby recorded a lot of songs that were also recorded by Elvis and these were no demos. They had a similar taste in music and both grew up with gospel and black music. However, if you look on YouTube for P.J. Proby Fun In Acapulco and Slowly But Surely you can hear Proby singing the original demo with the original text as written by Ben Weisman. In Acapulco the song ends with: There's work to be done!
Proby did all the demos for Ben Weisman and Ruth Batchelor
manjadolan 9 months ago
Elvis was much much better though Proby has nice range.....
chris7231000 9 months ago
The great PJ Proby didn't look so great in a news video last week when he showed up at the Worcester Magistrates' Court building. Unaware or uncaring that microphones were on he raked a woman companion over the coals for failing to immediately find the building entrance. The fact she was toting a large carry-case and his hands were void of any burden completed the image of a man thumbing his nose at people in general and women in particular.
BroaderScope 11 months ago
@BroaderScope He's always been a publicity hound but I doubt this on camera temper tantrum at age 72 will win him any new fans. Apparently he doesn't even appreciate his old ones.
two46eight 11 months ago
@rontenn
You're still here? You say PJ Proby's seen THEM ALL come and go. You might wish he were the only one left but there are scores of 60s artistes still performing.
Proby's legendary for badmouthing his competition and now his people are insinuating they've all died or bailed. Inexcusable.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
The great P.J. Proby has seen them all come & go but he himself is still here singing better than ever. You'll never hear a better version of this classic & it was the reason why he became an overnight sensation on The Beatles T.V. show in 1964.
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn
To use your favourite comeback - "you were there? Of course not!" And PJ Proby wasn't either. All you have is the word of gossip mongers selling their gossip in book form. When you read only trash books because you're too lazy to read anything else you're part of the problem.
You're certainly quick enough to deny any and all stories you don't like about PJ Proby. Your motives are crystal clear.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@rontenn
Why have EVERYTHING by Elvis if he was only an overrated copyist? You seem to think you can boost Proby's image by saying Elvis doesn't deserve his super-stardom. Proby wore out that tack years ago with his fictitious stories about the two of them growing up together.
Neither you nor Proby have the first inkling what made Elvis the ultimate entertainer. Star quality is not a sing-off. Elvis had IT and PJ Proby didn't. Proby doesn't know what IT is and never will.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@castleontheriver Elvis was in the right place at the right time! Utimately he did deserve his super stardom but without the Colonel discovering him he would have faded into oblivion. Good job Elvis was a "yes" man & listened to the Colonel & did everything he told him to. Proby is a different kind of character....a rebel who makes his own decisions whether for better or worse! He knows he's made mistakes but I bet he would not change a thing!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn Proby really enjoys that rebel self-image doesn't he? It's too bad he's remembered as the drunk who split his trousers and Elvis is still The King. Incidentally, Jerry Schilling would disagree with you about Elvis being a yes man. It's one of those myths that gossip mongers like you and PJ Proby like to perpetuate.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@castleontheriver Elvis was a yes man to the Colonel. Jerry & the rest of the M.M. were yes men to Elvis. As for a gossip monger I think you are probably the world champion in that department. Now have a pleasant 2011 & do try to get your brain operation done sometime next year!
rontenn 1 year ago
@castleontheriver well said,me and pj will drink to that..........
ITSTHETRUTHOK 11 months ago
@rontenn Are you trying to say a park bench made Proby smarter? You're absolutely right about one thing, he didn't say he bonked all those girls silly. But he did say he let his 6-8 year old "nymph-petits" touch some inappropriate parts of his body while he was lying down. That might be legal in England but it sure isn't in the US. I bet he thought it was the same as playing doctor when he was a kid. He's dumb as a tree stump.
metrozapjoe 1 year ago
@metrozapjoe You've got a very vivid imagination!
rontenn 1 year ago
Proby told the press in 1965 that after he'd been thrown out of two military schools his father drove him to Hollywood and dumped him on a park bench. It sounds like he'd be a big help with homework doesn't it? No doubt he gave those young girls a lot of lessons in "life in general". I've heard it called many things but never that.
metrozapjoe 1 year ago
@metrozapjoe There are probably people sleeping on park benches in London with ten times as many brains as the Prime Minister. So don't knock park benches!!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn If PJ Proby got smarter after he was dumped on a park bench just how stupid was he before then? He's talked about little girls staying overnight with him in his bedroom, mother daughter triangles, and how his live-in woman friend liked little girls too. He didn't say a damn thing about washing and ironing when he told any of that.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight You too have got a very vivid imagination! bet you have a lot of wet dreams!!!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn No imagination required. You just need to know how to read and listen to Proby make an ass of himself in interviews. The fool obviously thinks shooting off his mouth about his hankering for young girls will help sell his CD's.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight Only one fool around here pal......congratulations!
rontenn 1 year ago
@two46eight If the old goat didn't want people thinking he was fiddling those girls he wouldn't be talking about his Nymphet Club. Rontenn doesn't have anything better to do than run around putting out the fires Proby sets whenever the media gives him an opening. Proby obviously lost what little mind he had years ago and rontenn calls him a genius. Does that tell you anything?
metrozapjoe 1 year ago
@metrozapjoe It tells everyone with brains & good music taste this: I'm the one talking sense on here & P.J. Proby is indeed a genius!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn I guess it takes a genius to talk about running an after-school club for young girls so he could "give them an education". Proby's the fool who keeps bringing up his Nymphet Club of Hollywood whenever he's interviewed. You can't shove it under the rug fast enough before he spills his guts again. Too bad you don't like the subject because it seems to be one of Proby's favourites. LOL
grizzlygalore 1 year ago
@grizzlygalore I love talking about the Nymphet Club.....there were two.One in London in 1965 & the second in Hollywood when P.J. moved there. All the mother's of the girls involved were very happy...P.J. taught their daughter's to iron,wash,clean, etc & he also helped them with their homework from school & improved their knowledge of life in general. He should have been awarded the Nobel Prize for that.
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn You say women around Hollywood happily let their young daughters spend their after school hours with PJ Proby - known mainly for public drunkenness and wild parties - so he could teach them how to do his laundry and clean his house. And they believed he was qualified to help with their school homework too even though he was a high school dropout. Make a new plan Stan - nobody's buying this one.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight You were there were you? I believe P.J. when he said it was all innocent! If he's such the shithead you think he is then he would have said many years ago that he bonked all the girls silly!! He has not said that because he knows everything was above board. I know the truth hurts but accept it as you will never be able to put any evidence on here to find P.J. a guilty man! In other words STOP wasting my time & your own!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn Maybe some people in London fell for his BS but women in Hollywood didn't let their underage girls hang out with a NOBODY like PJ Proby. His stories about a Hollywood club to teach girls domestic skills is bunk. He tells this crap to make himself seem just as popular with girls in the US as Elvis was. He has to do something to cover up for those limp wrists he's showing in some of his Shindig performances. If you haven't caught on to that yet you're as loony as Proby is.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight You're just rambling now about a subject that's dead in the water. Proby maybe had limp wrists on some of his "Shindig" performances....you have a limp brain!
rontenn 1 year ago
@nawlins4evah As I know it, P.J. grew up in Houston Texas, and as that,s not the deep south, I simply meant(as below) but didn,t put across my comment well enough.
jen13101j 1 year ago
@jen13101j Do not bother trying to reason with these morons....they are not worth your time.Proby is a GREAT singer..they do not agree,who cares!?
rontenn 1 year ago
Respond to this video... @CategoryStomper Yes Iv,e never been great on geography, but what I had meant to say, was I thought he had been influenced by the music of the deep south. Realize Houston Texas is not in deep south, but thank you for the geography lesson. If it has influenced his style , musically, is a matter of each persons perception.
jen13101j 1 year ago
@castleontheriver Yes agree with you, there is a huge influence of Billy Eckstine in P.J.,s recording of Somewhere. Mostly I can recognize his original own voice in Hold Me, but no one could disagree that growing up in the deep south, has had a profound influence on P.J,s interpretation of a lot of his recordings. Don,t know if others would agree?
jen13101j 1 year ago
@jen13101j Texas isn't in the deep south geographically or culturally. The deep south is east of the Mississippi River and includes Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina. The southwest region is west of the Mississippi and spans Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah. If PJ Proby knows anything about the deep south he didn't learn it from ever being there. I bet he saw Song of the South and Gone With the Wind, both set in the 1800's.
CategoryStomper 1 year ago
@CategoryStomper You don't know much about music but your geography is quite good! Question for you....What is the genuine connection between "Song Of The South " & P.J.Proby? You'll probably have to phone a friend!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn I can see you are just dying to reveal another one of Proby's "genuine connections". Does he say Luana Patten was one of his 12 or 27 common law wives? Or maybe Disney's daughter was a member of his despicable Nymphet Club. What kind of idiot still believes Proby's tales of Hollywood friends and show business connections?
grizzlygalore 1 year ago
@grizzlygalore What are you rambling on about? What are you on? I'm dying for you to exit You Tube !
rontenn 1 year ago
@jen13101j PJ's deep south roots are nothing but a figment of his imagination just like his other fairy tales that naive fans seem to swallow hook, line and sinker.
nawlins4evah 1 year ago
@vanjane Unless you are over 50, your not likely to have heard of P.J. first time around, but he is doing well at the moment touring. Look up the sixties Gold tour, you may still be able to catch him. Castleontheriver,when P.J. had his original hits, he did not copy anyone.The fact that he can sing in so many different ways, is just another talent.
jen13101j 1 year ago
@jen13101j Maybe his fans don't want to admit he copied other singers but Proby seems proud of it. He's said in interviews that he was aiming for a blend of Billy Eckstine and Dinah Washington when he recorded Somewhere and there's no doubt his version of I Apologise was from Eckstine's version. His albums are full of soundalike covers of U.S. hits like Don't Worry Baby, She's Lookin' Good and Cry Baby. You may think it's a talent but many people think it's just impersonations.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
I believe that this man has a better voice than Elvis. How come I've never heard of him before today.
vanjane 1 year ago
@vanjane Elvis didn't become a superstar because of his voice alone. Were you blown away by great voices when you were a teenager? Elvis was unique and didn't try to look or sound like somebody else. His greatest talent was his ability to grasp what his audience wanted and react to it seamlessly. PJ Proby mimicked the voices of everybody from Nat Cole to the Beach Boys. If you want more clues about where he went wrong watch the PJ Proby: Three-week Hero (part 1 and part 2) videos on youtube.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@castleontheriver Elvis nicked quite a few versions of songs by other artistes & copied them exactly, especially in the early days! Elvis was unique..fair enough! SO WAS P.J.! Read what vanjane said...there are thousands that agree!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn Thousands of what? Nobody believes PJ Proby has thousands of fans anymore. Why aren't they buying his CD's and going to his shows? When was his last SOLO tour? Get real. Which songs did Elvis copy "exactly" or even close? Are you trying to tell people that Elvis was a mimic like Proby?
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@castleontheriver YES! It's a well known fact that Elvis mimicked hundred's of demo discs he received. Including Proby's!!!! Go listen to "Fun In Acapulco" or "Slowly But Surely". He also nicked other people's versions of songs...."White Christmas" by The Drifter's being just one of many!
Proby's last solo tour was in 2009. He's in Sweden now doing 7 shows by the way!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn
Elvis sang White Christmas like Clyde McPhatter, or was it Bill Pinkney? Are you joking? The similarity in those recordings is the arrangement not their voices.
And you think Elvis was copying PJ Proby when it was Proby's job to do a demo that SOUNDED LIKE ELVIS. Was Elvis supposed to sing it like Al Jolson so he wouldn't sound like himself? With all those "hundreds" this the best you can do?
1956-1977, whatever the arrangement, nobody has to be told who's singing when it's Elvis.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@castleontheriver It was the arrangement I meant of course. I've got everything by Elvis & believe me there are very many copies on record especially in the early days when he didn't really have a style or direction."White Christmas"??? listen to the phrasing too! Elvis copied the way the demo singers did the songs cause that was nice & easy! So in theory he was copying demo copies of himself!
rontenn 1 year ago
@vanjane He is fantastic but there has always been a vendetta against him as you can read by the nasty cheap comments on this clip. Us fans are used to it just as P.J. is & he ignores their rubbish comments & advises us to do the same. Whatever crap they write it makes no difference.....as one fan shouted out at a concert "P.J.....You are the real King"! NUFF SAID
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn You think I should to take YOUR word for who Proby's friends are and whether they're happy? Who are YOU? Do you talk to Dottie Harmony often? Ha! The way Proby tells it he's best friends with everybody important especially movie and music stars who're 6 feet under. He seems to PREFER the dead or reclusive stars actually. I guess they aren't as likely to show up without warning and ask who he is.
two46eight 1 year ago
@ITSTHETRUTHOK Do you think because you picked this username, you can post anything you feel like, along with the usual language accociated with no intelligence you use to put across YOURLIESOK and people will automatically believe you? No ones a saint, but this is getting old , OK. and ITS THETRUTHOK
jen13101j 1 year ago
@castleontheriver In 1968 Proby's fiancee broke their engagement when she learned he was still married to his first wife. He actually had a different wife at that time (who knows how many more) which would have been bigamy (a crime). PJ Proby is obviously too much of a genius to worry about morality or ethics or laws. Rontenn thinks badmouthing Dottie Harmony excuses Proby's behavior. He's also excused PJ's beating up his girlfriend in 1992 with "she can take care of herself!" Brilliant!
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight Dotty & P.J. are still the best of friends. The lady you talk about from 1992 is also still the best of friends with P.J. I know them both as well as P.J! So if they are all happy then what's YOUR problem?
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn You need to look deeper. If you want anybody to believe it's all unimportant and in the past tell Proby to stop running off at the mouth in public. He doesn't know wild from ghastly and neither do you.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight It's your mouth that is running off.Stop raking up old rubbish...it's all water under the bridge.Put your time to better use is my advice. One or two people on You Tube are obsessed with all the bad things P.J. allegedly said & did. In my eyes a genius can do the **** that he wants!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn In her book "Summertime Blues" Sharon Sheeley said Dottie Harmony "dropped him like a bad habit" when "she came to realize that his behaviour was rather demented, to put it mildly, and she figured he would never change". Smart lady. Sheeley also said "he had two wives at the same time, neither had a clue" and "he had gone as far as to sign with four different record labels at the same time" and exclusive contracts "meant nothing to him". PJ Proby's a real genius.
castleontheriver 1 year ago
@castleontheriver. Dotty & P.J. are still the best of friends. It's true P.J. was a wild young man..is that a crime? You got one part of your message correct " PJ Proby's a real genius" Thanks for that!
P.S. Dottie was no saint either!!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn It looks like Proby's the one who keeps raking up old rubbish. In an interview last month in Eulogy magazine he was still boasting about his Nymphet Club of Hollywood for girls aged 11 to 15. How can anybody top that for rubbish? Hasn't he figured out by now that the only people impressed by this are pedos?
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight You must have scoured the internet to find that interview.....have you nothing better to do with your time.The editor of the magazine was very, very impressed by P.J. As for the Nymphet Club.....it was all FUN! Your dirty imagination has turned it into something else! I bet Bill & Ben are gay in your mind & Sooty & Sweep two perverts! God knows what you think about the guy with his hands up their butts!! You're pathetic!...& very sad!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn A guy in his mid twenties running a NYMPHET club for girls ages 11-15 in his home? Yes, I bet he had FUN! What do you think he was doing with them, playing tiddlywinks? Or maybe he was teaching them how to knit? You really are an ignorant twit if you think it takes imagination to figure out what he was doing.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight. Until we hear from one of the young girls in the Nymphet Club about what happened then I've got as much chance of being correct as you. I thought the saying was: Innocent until proven guilty! No-one can be found guilty on someone elses imagination running riot!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn What's with all this innocent until proven guilty jargon? Public opinion doesn't follow court procedure. If you believe it was all innocent fun then that makes one of you. Is Proby a eunuch?
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight. In all civilised countries that is how it is.Public opinion doesn't come into it! Half the general public are like you...THICK! Although you might think because of some of the unbelievable high note he hits, P.J. is not a eunuch. He's a Christian! & he believes! LOL! You need your dirty little mind cleansing...your standards are thankfully not everyone's. I class you in the thick AND perverted category! Have you found a nymphet yet to ask?
rontenn 1 year ago
Who really cares what the anti Proby people say. Proby still has thousands of fans & deservedly so.He's the real King!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn What is he king of?
RocksNoChaser 1 year ago
@RocksNoChaser. Listen to this performance & it's obvious!!!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn I've already listened to the performance. Obviously!!! he's not the king of anything if you can't lay it on the line.
RocksNoChaser 1 year ago
@RocksNoChaser. Listen mate!! I believe ..you don't !! end of conversation
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn he is the king of lies,and drinking,its the truth ok.....
ITSTHETRUTHOK 1 year ago
@ITSTHETRUTHOK And you sound like the King of bullshit!!
rontenn 1 year ago
@roTENMAN.never mind that,list all the films,pisshead has done,it wont take long,LOL,yes i bet elvis could not sleep,LOL,....
ITSTHETRUTHOK 1 year ago
@ITSTHETRUTHOK Calm down man! try to put your point over in an intelligent way that can be understood. Elvis could not sleep & we all know why!
As for all of his films....out of the whole list there are about 4 good ones.
rontenn 1 year ago
two46eight. Can only read the comments they make, which continually reflect an obsession with this subject. I have seen both two week hero videos and find it difficult to believe he said certain things. Obviously he did. I was pointing out, forget the trousers, there are many more sides to the P J debate.
samesongtonight1 1 year ago
Do you all honestly think anyone still cares whether he split his silly pants? If they care about anything it's the out to lunch things he's done since then. Forget about one inch rips and wake up! For starters check out the Three-week Hero, Part 2 video and the comments posted by someone who was there.
two46eight 1 year ago
@two46eight You are looking much too deep!! lighten up! It's all long ago in the past & not really important. Just like Mick Jagger took a pee in the street ages ago....big deal at the time but of no importance whatsoever now! as samesongtonight 1 said...just enjoy the music.
rontenn 1 year ago
@akindofblue3 Will it never end, the "speculation" that p j split his trousers?. A one inch rip inside the knee, ends a great singers career, and thats all people who don,t know, want to talk about? Just enjoy the music. P J is 72 now, can we forget about the split. If it was now , it would never be noticed. Tom Jones did well out of it though!
samesongtonight1 1 year ago
I think the comments below are missing the point - Youtube provides global exposure and a chance for many of us to enjoy rare stuff that has not seen the light of day for years - I grew up with Proby and I've had a ball today seeing and hearing stuff I couldn't dream of finding anywhere else - why do you need to turn this into a pissing contest... I don't get it. Just enjoy the man or go away and play with your dummy.
akindofblue3 1 year ago
I don't care if PJ split his pants from his ankle to his crotch.What matters to me is hearing that beautiful voice.The past is long gone.I'm just glad that PJ isstill with us,and still thrilling his fans with that beautiful voice.
texasprobyan 1 year ago
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rockabillydj 1 year ago
Is this SNL? Who is this flake? Do other worse for wear singers get guys like rontenn to knock heads on youtube or is it just Proby. Why would anybody with an ounce of sanity think this yo-yo is going to jack up their sales. Proby must not have sense enough to know people say whatever they want to on youtube and no would be bouncer is going to stop them. Unbelievable.
metrozapjoe 1 year ago
The comments on this video are a riot! It's plain as day people have been playing "stick the pin in rontenn and listen to him squeal" for months and he's too stupid to catch on. The bestelvis dude is almost as smart too. If those two jokers are all Proby can get to beef up his sales he might as well pack it in.
metrozapjoe 1 year ago
@metrozapjoe Crawl back under your stone....low life! At least the anti Proby jokers have half a brain between them! You have nothing!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn I'm sure you never saw Elvis live on stage or you would have said you did.
The definition of swearing doesn't eliminate words that can be heard in broadcast media or anywhere else so you have no argument on that score. You are confusing swearing with obscenity. You've used words generally considered swear words by most of society. Swearing or not, I've come across few adults with vocabularies as limited as yours and theBESTelvis'. Is it a trait prevalent among some Proby fans?
oldtowntonight 1 year ago
@oldtowntonight . What you think & what is fact are miles apart. Thanks for the very explicit explanation of what is a swear word & what is not. Very interesting!ZZZZZZZ Have you got any friends? I doubt it & I now know why! You say my vocabulary is limited. I say that your brain is even more limited.....is this a trait prevalent among the very few Proby haters?
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn You told oldtowntonight to look swear word up in the dictionary and when he does you find the subject terribly boring. True to form. Metrozapjoe's assessment of your sales promotion strategy is right on. You said CD sales aren't doing TOO BADLY? Over the whole age group range of WHAT? Your little group of Proby fans did their duty and bought a few and that was the end of it. It would have sold better if it had been banned.
grizzlygalore 1 year ago
@grizzlygalore
GET A FXXKIN LIFE ASS HOLE,
THAT'S ALL YOUR WORTH...SWEAR WORDS YA FREAK OF A SPECIMEN.
CAN'T BELIEVE JUST HOW SAD AND LOW YOU LOSERS ARE, UNBELIEVABLE
theBESTelvis 1 year ago
@grizzlygalore Look swear word up to open his little mind not mine! I am not doing any sales promotion so that's another no ! no! Are you lot on drugs or something. You do talk such juvenile rubbish! I see theBESTelvis is getting stuck into you lot & all the naughty swear words he is using are very apt! The CD is still selling & has just had a great review in a German music mag. You lot are stuck in a very small pathetic world but I suppose it's too late now for you to change that.
rontenn 1 year ago
@oltowntonight I saw where rontenn challenged you for an example of his swearing. He's known for a short memory of uncomplimentary comments he posts about artistes other than Proby. He forgets other things as well. I have a comment he made to me that that I'm sure he doesn't want repeated here. It's been removed from the youtube video (?) but I have it in my inbox. Rontenn doesn't know how to count to 10 before he posts. It is only one of several comments that disappeared from various videos.
grizzlygalore 1 year ago
@rontenn Now we have another sad story about banning, blacklisting, and snubbing. Always convenient when it comes down to why something of Proby's didn't sell. Was this another one of those 40 year things? You've managed to turn the actions of one music critic into all out blacklisting. How could those records get good press reviews if nobody ever heard them? Those Savoy recordings have been available for many years. If you haven't found that out yet you don't know much.
grizzlygalore 1 year ago