I say fuck those people who put you down and count you out. It really matters that you care about you and go along with your dreams/goals but I understand being truthful and realistic. everybody's got to have dreams and goals.
I'm lucky and I get to say "suck it" to people who told me that I would never make money as an orchestral composer but I was definitely told I would never be able to make a living doing what I'm doing now.
Continued) of grander, but they shouldn't do the opposite and put students down. A fair teacher who is encouraging and helpful are probably the best kind of teacher.
You get what you put into education. And the same goes for the teacher. I've had encouraging professors that I learned a lot from and did very well in the class. Because I worked hard. I had indifferent professors that I didn't really learn from but did well. Because they where pretty much a cake walk. And in classes where the professors where assholes I did poorly and didn't learn much. Because the professor didn't even give me a chance to succeed. Professors shouldn't give you these illusions
As graduate TA in mathematics, I have a bit of an insider's point of view. Many professors/teachers (myself included) honestly want students to succeed. I constantly encourage my students, and I think the assessments I offer them truly test their knowledge per the instruction I provide. However, I am also witness to colleagues putting their students down— albeit not to their faces. It is pretty easy to function egotistically in positions of power, and unfortunately students encounter bad apples.
These kind of professors ARE telling what they think. They share their opinion and if you are a responsible adult, then you'd take it how you may and try harder. I wouldn't let a professor tear me down just to become another statistic.
Then again, professors can either be telling you the truth or just being a dick.
If it's possible, major in a science. I'm better at writing, but Arts degrees are far too big a risk, only yielding the same amount as a science degree if you're lucky.
science degrees don't always pay either. No matter what you do. be good at it. I think that's the way to go about it, and actually have a plan. Otherwise don't bother with university. If you want to make money then just go do that. If you want an education well go do it.
Anyone who goes to university for enlightenment is risking their financial well-being. (Assuming what they major in isn't related to industry or sciences) Going with a BSc over a BA has a far greater chance of success.
depends. I did International Studies & Economics. Everyone on youtube said I'm going to be working part time at walmart at the end. But I ended up in international trade in banking, then was doing head hunting in SE asia a bit. Now I'm in DC for grad school in conflict analysis and resolution. Anyway anyone that says you can't do something with your degree either isn't in the field or doesn't know what they're talking about or both. Students need to know what they can do
that being said. I took an unbeatened route. Even students who studied accounting, engineering, finance, etc. Are getting boned. Because if you're not well connected or not the best at it but did it anyway because they listened to you. They might not be competitive enough. In the end do what you are good at. If it is important to you. You will find a way. Human development? Plenty of jobs in that field if you're willing to leave the country. They're decent paying too.
??? If you are attending a community college the chances of being a successful US congressional politician is slim to none statistically. I am not saying people in community colleges do not become CEOs or Presidents of fortune 500 companies, but ALMOST ALL US congressional politicians have wealthy families.
State politicians can come from anywhere and any background.
I graduated with a 3.7 gpa and took 6 AP and passed them all. I went to a community college but because the cost as international out of state was nuts. Then financing it was nuts, did not have citizenship yet so no help. So whatever if others look down on me. Let them look down on me. Because I have fuck with their psychologies. They are so convinced of their intellect that they just wing everything.
I do not understand why professors constantly hit down community college students, they are already in the most depressing situations. Why push down the most vulnerable and have almost no rights.
I have met professors like that all the time everytime. WTF are there here for. It was sad, tihs single professor in her 40 was telling how it was and what reality was really like from a person like her. She is just bitter and a loser inside of her and got joy and push others down. Dumb bitches are bastards
UMM most professors in general are bitches and have such high EGOs. They want everyone to look at them listen to them and worship them. They are such D-bag personalities. How can this person who was able to go through undergraduate graduate PhD postdoc to there build up their CV get an education believe and think everyone else cannot get an education an not be worthy for higher education?
In undergrad I had nothing but encouraging professors but once I came to med school it was a different situation. However I expect my med school professors to be hard asses because they are attempting to weed out the students who are not dedicated to medicine and who would make incompetent doctors. It is the same thing at law school, the socratic method is used not only to teach the law student to think on his feet but to force him to defend his position against a hostile party.
my dad tells me shit like that every day. It hurt in the beginning but you have to tune it out- as long as you're being productive and moving forward to where you want to someday be, right?
I had one professor who made 2/3 of the class stand up. Told us that this many people would fail her course. The next class only 1/2 of us were left the other half dropped the class. She told us that she was trying to get rid of the kids looking for easy A's and that now she is starting the class... when over the course again with out being harsh. She was really nice and Top 5 best professors I had.
In Germany, a Professor said to us on the first day, that it is impossible to get a 1 in his class. ("1" is the German equivalent to "A Grade" in America)
My voice teacher has always told me it is a very slim chance I'll be able to make a living off of singing. You know what? It's just the truth. It IS a tough business, and for every "what now" moment there are 100 "told you so" moments. Meh. Non story.
@aaronpolitical My old Musicology teacher (an elective I had to take) telling us the same thing. "If you wish to pursue a career as a muscian/singer, do know you will be broke." Hard as it is in the music business, he was right. He taught history and other subjects along with music that were very helpful. I'm a BCIS major, and felt great knowing I'm majoring in business. (Even though I wanted music business, but they didn't have it.)
You should hear what students training to be teachers go through. For the most part, we're aware that teaching is hard. But everyone- professors, school teachers, friends, random strangers- all feel the need to tell you that you're a moron for wanting to be an educator. And then they complain about there being a shortage of teachers.
Because once you actually graduate and get into the workforce, you're still gonna have to deal with assholes. If one asshole is enough to make you give up on something you should be your passionate about, why would you waste the money in the first place? Go get your corporate job and become a debt slave.
I actually heard a story from my ta that a professor had once told his students in first class to stop worrying about their marks because he is going to give everyone perfect if they just come to class and listen to what he says because he believes there is more in learning than going for the marks. Sadly, he was fired when he input the marks to the university. It is the system that won't allow everyone getting perfect grades.
This sort of shit happens all the time. I went to a very good university (top ten) but not Oxford or Cambridge - I was told that to be a barrister you had to go to Oxford or Cambridge by my professor. In fact I did become a barrister - but in a way he was right I was surrounded by Oxford and Cambridge graduates - sometimes schools try to instil some realism and don't want to set you up for failure but that is a fine line from out and out discouragement
While the bulk of you are focusing on the students' reactions and whether the prof said or didn't say that and if it "works," you are missing an incredibly large point: a professor teaching at that school saying that and fomenting that belief is stealing money not only from the university's pocket but his own.
In grad school, I had a peer who pretty much hazed anyone else who came into the program. Why? We could, she said, challenge HER future job placement. She was a sour person.
i want a job that i am happy with for me its not all about the money i mean there obviously is a minimum amount i want to where i dont have to worry about money remember money cant buy happiness u could be making tons of money but r u really happy and thats what i am looking for a job i am happy with and pays reasonably one day i want to maybe work for tyt i am interested in journalism as well and i lve politics and thats what i want to cover right now im 15 and i cant wait to meet u guys!!!!!!!
First, being discouraging to students doesn't work for everybody. Second, there is a difference between being discouraging and telling the truth; which is what Ana's professor did for her. Telling a student the truth with salary facts etc. is ok. Being discouraging is not.
At my uni here in Canada if the profs were consistently teaching classes with low marks on tests, the school wasn't happy because it reflected poorly on them. We were required to fill out feedback sheets reporting our prof's performance in class and based on that feedback, the school decided whether to keep them around or not.
Being discouraging can light a fire under some people's asses. Most everyone else has thick enough skin that it doesn't bug them much, so it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
The best professor I had was a guy who the first day of class said.. here are your projects, you have the books, there wil be no lessons, you are on your own. turn in everything at the end of the semester.
it taught us to be self taught and not need a professor to hold our hands in our learning process.
@narazum0 Professors told you this, huh? Well, this one is telling you that you are flat out, dead wrong, insane to believe that person and/or go to your college. Excellent teaching; service to the university committees, and scholarship. And excellent teaching does NOT include failure rates. We barely get raises at all, since the GOP vilifies us at every turn. I make less five years in that I did when hired. A raise? Ha. Give me a break!
I'm so sorry to be commenting on your looks ana, you have always been exeptionally beatifull, but now you'r getting to look sick! I hope you are still healthy and and staying well if not I hop you feel better! Lots of love from Norway!
Furthermore, what's even worse about this is that, not everyone is super rich, not even in Orange County. And with tuitions in California skyrocketing, it's expensive to get a higher education... yes, even to many Orange County residents. Besides, the first couple years are a wash at the universities. People might as well just go to community college, get those basic classes out of the way for a couple years and then transfer to a university.
How heartwarming to know that snobbery and ego is still alive and well in Orange County. There's never, ever any shortage of that in such a lovely place. Throw in materialism, ignorance, racial prejudice and excessive classism, and you have many cities in Orange County described to a T.
There is a fine line here. I had professors tell us (the class) that at most 20% of us will make As and Bs most will make Cs and Ds. For me, that is a challenge, I will try my best to be at the top of the class. HOWEVER, to tell students that they aint shit, and never will be shit is dead wrong. Im all for giving students a challenge to see what they are mad of but Im against breaking a student's spirit/bulling
I completely agree with Ana... i love proving people wrong... the first person who i proved wrong was my 8th grade teacher who said i would never make it through high school and i would never be a good enough student... I'm graduating from high school this year with honors, 7 AP classes, and i am a intellectual person.... SOOO i definitely proved her wrong!!! hahahaha
i hate teachers like that and its so fucking stupid that they do shit like that and everybody needs to be encouraged to do things instead of discouraged mine were encouraging when i was in highschool and college in highschool i was already like i am only doing what i want and it is messed up when teachers try to make students fail and there are some teachers like that and its WRONG
@endauthority I know Im in community college right now. But when it comes to being a professor at community college it means your not really that good of a teacher.
@endauthority Yea, thats very true, its nothing really against community college teacher. I have a lot a respect for most of my teachers, but every teacher I have had so far probably couldnt teach at Harvard or Princeton or any universities at that level.
omg I remember one of my friend's professor from community college took a picture of the class on his phone while they were taking a test, and posted it on his Facebook with the caption of something along the lines of, "Giving a bunch of wannabe doctors an exam" I remember the term "wannabe doctors" was used specifically.
As long as the professor is not intentionally trying to fail students, I'd say they're just being bluntly honest. It might sound mean and discouraging, but it's reality.
It feels like professors with tenure don't care whether their students succeed or not. They're too busy with their own studies, research, and papers to actually have time to really teach. When the goal of the school is to manufacture graduates and produce research for funding, quality takes a back seat. That's just my take on it.
@TiradeFaction Oh wow, I totally overlooked that fact. In that case, there really is no excuse. I don't know if community colleges have tenure, but teacher evaluations should get people like that fired.
@HunnyBadger15 Oh they have tenure, it's just far less common than in universities, and research is almost never conducted as an official function of a community college. It's why you're more likely to find a professor actually teaching at a community college, rather than his/her TA's
@TiradeFaction You're right about them actually teaching, but sometimes it seems like they coddle their students. I don't know if it's the case for all community colleges, but the one I went to for dual enrollment had a very "high school" environment to it.
@HunnyBadger15 Oh yeah no doubt about it. Especially when you're in the "average" or "below average (remedial)" classes, it's very high school like. Though on the flip side, it's nice to be around professors who ostensibly at least want to teach. Though a lot are actually Uni professors who teach at a local CC as well for extra funds.
Professors worked hard to get where they are. Some, because of this are assholes. I had a prof like this, he marked first year papers as though they were Phd dissertations. He also would continually put us down and talk down to us as though we were complete idiots.
I wonder if perhaps the student is spinning it negatively. I'm not saying she is, but maybe her prof did what Ana was talking about at the end - being straight with students and telling them about the reality of the market of the field. I did my undergrad in psych and I wish my profs had told us how much of a pipe dream it is to want to become a tenured psych prof, and how little competitive market value a psych degree holds (it is surely among the least valuable university degrees).
I would say "well I might not be in the book among the rich and famous politicians, but you'll be sure to see me on the student newspaper for rallying to get your ass fired."
I'm a professor and if I ever felt the need to "make a test harder" so a lot of people failed I would just quit. My job is to teach and encourage, to have students who learn (especially how to think for themselves!) and to make my assignments and tests difficult enough to be a challenge and to actually test your knowledge but not hard enough for people to fail. That's ridiculous.
I dunno what the professor has said to the student in this case. But in my experience, fellow students are too sensitive whenever there is a lecturer who will actually challenge them. All of a sudden that lecturer is the worst in the world to them. My favorite lecturer last year, I think I'm the only person in that class who liked her. She expected you to read the material and if you're trying to answer questions when you hadn't studied she'd cut you down. She was awesome.
I would rather have a cynical professor that ignites a level of perseverance in me, by enraging me, than have a professor who lulls me into state of complacency by being unrealistically optimistic and flattering of everything I did. I graduated from my university over 12 years ago, and the classes that I got the most out of were NOT the ones that were overly cheery, as if we were in an episode of Barney the Purple Dinosaur.
I remember an art teacher on 3rd grade who never attended a class without calling us a herd of sheep, he often told us how we are just a bunch of Bedouins who will never understand what "art" is, because we're only good at herding camels.
We found him very amusing and laughed at his rants which convinced him that he was right.
Jayar's professors wasn't an asshole, every professor I've had in college would do the same thing if grade were too high, because department standards mean only a specific percentage of students should get specific grades. Not saying I agree with it, just saying that's how it works at least at my university
Ana and Jayar are forgetting another angle to Professors being discouraging towards students....Ego. Some professors are just bully professors who feel the need to put his/her students down. Albeit, its probably rare, but it does happen. In middle school, I had a reading teacher who was just a complete bitch to me and my friends for absolutely no reason. We had a nickname for her and everything.
@trier4952 If it started with a C and rhymed with Runt.... I'd say not a very impressive nickname.... However my curiosity is piqued and I would love to know what it was.
I'm okay with it. If you gave up on your dreams because a teacher (also in community college) told you to, you're almost certainly one of the people who genuinely wouldn't amount to anything politically.
I say fuck those people who put you down and count you out. It really matters that you care about you and go along with your dreams/goals but I understand being truthful and realistic. everybody's got to have dreams and goals.
TransmissionFilms 3 weeks ago
I'm lucky and I get to say "suck it" to people who told me that I would never make money as an orchestral composer but I was definitely told I would never be able to make a living doing what I'm doing now.
fauxman 4 weeks ago
lol Ana sounded like a unicorn at 270s
thepermman 1 month ago
Jayar's professor apparently watched this video too.
jqsmith1452 1 month ago 15
Continued) of grander, but they shouldn't do the opposite and put students down. A fair teacher who is encouraging and helpful are probably the best kind of teacher.
YourFavoriteKilljoy 1 month ago
You get what you put into education. And the same goes for the teacher. I've had encouraging professors that I learned a lot from and did very well in the class. Because I worked hard. I had indifferent professors that I didn't really learn from but did well. Because they where pretty much a cake walk. And in classes where the professors where assholes I did poorly and didn't learn much. Because the professor didn't even give me a chance to succeed. Professors shouldn't give you these illusions
YourFavoriteKilljoy 1 month ago
As graduate TA in mathematics, I have a bit of an insider's point of view. Many professors/teachers (myself included) honestly want students to succeed. I constantly encourage my students, and I think the assessments I offer them truly test their knowledge per the instruction I provide. However, I am also witness to colleagues putting their students down— albeit not to their faces. It is pretty easy to function egotistically in positions of power, and unfortunately students encounter bad apples.
zipiezo100 1 month ago
These kind of professors ARE telling what they think. They share their opinion and if you are a responsible adult, then you'd take it how you may and try harder. I wouldn't let a professor tear me down just to become another statistic.
Then again, professors can either be telling you the truth or just being a dick.
OwlheartXx 1 month ago
If it's possible, major in a science. I'm better at writing, but Arts degrees are far too big a risk, only yielding the same amount as a science degree if you're lucky.
TheCagedTiger 1 month ago
@TheCagedTiger
science degrees don't always pay either. No matter what you do. be good at it. I think that's the way to go about it, and actually have a plan. Otherwise don't bother with university. If you want to make money then just go do that. If you want an education well go do it.
lordblazer 1 month ago
@lordblazer
Anyone who goes to university for enlightenment is risking their financial well-being. (Assuming what they major in isn't related to industry or sciences) Going with a BSc over a BA has a far greater chance of success.
TheCagedTiger 1 month ago
@TheCagedTiger
depends. I did International Studies & Economics. Everyone on youtube said I'm going to be working part time at walmart at the end. But I ended up in international trade in banking, then was doing head hunting in SE asia a bit. Now I'm in DC for grad school in conflict analysis and resolution. Anyway anyone that says you can't do something with your degree either isn't in the field or doesn't know what they're talking about or both. Students need to know what they can do
lordblazer 1 month ago
@TheCagedTiger
that being said. I took an unbeatened route. Even students who studied accounting, engineering, finance, etc. Are getting boned. Because if you're not well connected or not the best at it but did it anyway because they listened to you. They might not be competitive enough. In the end do what you are good at. If it is important to you. You will find a way. Human development? Plenty of jobs in that field if you're willing to leave the country. They're decent paying too.
lordblazer 1 month ago
Part of it is kinda the truth, but students shouldn't be discouraged for doing what they want to do in life (that also brings value for society)
Harry182182 1 month ago
??? If you are attending a community college the chances of being a successful US congressional politician is slim to none statistically. I am not saying people in community colleges do not become CEOs or Presidents of fortune 500 companies, but ALMOST ALL US congressional politicians have wealthy families.
State politicians can come from anywhere and any background.
Stamps600 1 month ago
They shouldn't put down people.
TheCrappyaccount 1 month ago
Ana saying Yeah we'll see mother fucker? +1
krisreckner 1 month ago
I graduated with a 3.7 gpa and took 6 AP and passed them all. I went to a community college but because the cost as international out of state was nuts. Then financing it was nuts, did not have citizenship yet so no help. So whatever if others look down on me. Let them look down on me. Because I have fuck with their psychologies. They are so convinced of their intellect that they just wing everything.
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I do not understand why professors constantly hit down community college students, they are already in the most depressing situations. Why push down the most vulnerable and have almost no rights.
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I have met professors like that all the time everytime. WTF are there here for. It was sad, tihs single professor in her 40 was telling how it was and what reality was really like from a person like her. She is just bitter and a loser inside of her and got joy and push others down. Dumb bitches are bastards
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UMM most professors in general are bitches and have such high EGOs. They want everyone to look at them listen to them and worship them. They are such D-bag personalities. How can this person who was able to go through undergraduate graduate PhD postdoc to there build up their CV get an education believe and think everyone else cannot get an education an not be worthy for higher education?
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funny to see for profit colleges advertising on these videos...
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Lol Ana: what now, motherfucker.
JenUsesInternet 1 month ago
it might be wise to prove them wrong and THEN give them the finger, rather than the reverse.
squirrelywrath2 1 month ago
In undergrad I had nothing but encouraging professors but once I came to med school it was a different situation. However I expect my med school professors to be hard asses because they are attempting to weed out the students who are not dedicated to medicine and who would make incompetent doctors. It is the same thing at law school, the socratic method is used not only to teach the law student to think on his feet but to force him to defend his position against a hostile party.
Plato86 1 month ago
Quick historical note: Hitler's teacher once said that Hitler wouldn't amount to anything.
Maybe that wasn't the best example.
CyewWayne 1 month ago
Being a Professor is a draw for people with ego problems. then again, good teachers can work in mysterious ways ;)
MrAirandfire 1 month ago
my dad tells me shit like that every day. It hurt in the beginning but you have to tune it out- as long as you're being productive and moving forward to where you want to someday be, right?
geosunkist 1 month ago
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I had one professor who made 2/3 of the class stand up. Told us that this many people would fail her course. The next class only 1/2 of us were left the other half dropped the class. She told us that she was trying to get rid of the kids looking for easy A's and that now she is starting the class... when over the course again with out being harsh. She was really nice and Top 5 best professors I had.
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lex811117 1 month ago
(1) Failure happens, Its called life
(2) Profs job is grade undergrads, 2-3 hr a week is not enough time to teach shit, have to learn on ur own.
(3) Managing expectations is important, people don't go to community college to become a theoretical physicist.
js2436 1 month ago
In Germany, a Professor said to us on the first day, that it is impossible to get a 1 in his class. ("1" is the German equivalent to "A Grade" in America)
Very motivative man...not!
Doan84 1 month ago
@Doan84 That's just reality though. Perfection is unattainable.
MrAirandfire 1 month ago
My voice teacher has always told me it is a very slim chance I'll be able to make a living off of singing. You know what? It's just the truth. It IS a tough business, and for every "what now" moment there are 100 "told you so" moments. Meh. Non story.
aaronpolitical 1 month ago 21
@aaronpolitical My old Musicology teacher (an elective I had to take) telling us the same thing. "If you wish to pursue a career as a muscian/singer, do know you will be broke." Hard as it is in the music business, he was right. He taught history and other subjects along with music that were very helpful. I'm a BCIS major, and felt great knowing I'm majoring in business. (Even though I wanted music business, but they didn't have it.)
Mika20 1 month ago
@Mika20 Precisely.
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
@aaronpolitical this professor was basically saying his/her students were pieces of shit. It's not the same as "oh this is a risky business"
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@skwaag5233 That's fair enough, I just wanted to get that clarification out there.
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
How many people on Anas Media course dont work in the media though?
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Thongger 1 month ago
this is not true follow your dreams !
xxcrossed 1 month ago
You should hear what students training to be teachers go through. For the most part, we're aware that teaching is hard. But everyone- professors, school teachers, friends, random strangers- all feel the need to tell you that you're a moron for wanting to be an educator. And then they complain about there being a shortage of teachers.
youngliterati 1 month ago
@youngliterati I admire you for wanting to be an educator, good luck!
lazygorillas 1 month ago
if you get discouraged by an asshole professor, you shouldn't be in college
cowpacino 1 month ago
@cowpacino Lol, what kind of logic is that?
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Because once you actually graduate and get into the workforce, you're still gonna have to deal with assholes. If one asshole is enough to make you give up on something you should be your passionate about, why would you waste the money in the first place? Go get your corporate job and become a debt slave.
cowpacino 1 month ago
I actually heard a story from my ta that a professor had once told his students in first class to stop worrying about their marks because he is going to give everyone perfect if they just come to class and listen to what he says because he believes there is more in learning than going for the marks. Sadly, he was fired when he input the marks to the university. It is the system that won't allow everyone getting perfect grades.
Balencian 1 month ago
This sort of shit happens all the time. I went to a very good university (top ten) but not Oxford or Cambridge - I was told that to be a barrister you had to go to Oxford or Cambridge by my professor. In fact I did become a barrister - but in a way he was right I was surrounded by Oxford and Cambridge graduates - sometimes schools try to instil some realism and don't want to set you up for failure but that is a fine line from out and out discouragement
vohshkab 1 month ago
My favorite was when the guest speaker told the class that grades don't matter, soft skill do.
I'll remember my teacher facepalming and shaking his head behind the rest of the class as long as I live.
Trichomes503 1 month ago
Ana you're looking fucking pasty. I like it
nipplewort 1 month ago
While the bulk of you are focusing on the students' reactions and whether the prof said or didn't say that and if it "works," you are missing an incredibly large point: a professor teaching at that school saying that and fomenting that belief is stealing money not only from the university's pocket but his own.
In grad school, I had a peer who pretty much hazed anyone else who came into the program. Why? We could, she said, challenge HER future job placement. She was a sour person.
lifestandstillhere 1 month ago
i want a job that i am happy with for me its not all about the money i mean there obviously is a minimum amount i want to where i dont have to worry about money remember money cant buy happiness u could be making tons of money but r u really happy and thats what i am looking for a job i am happy with and pays reasonably one day i want to maybe work for tyt i am interested in journalism as well and i lve politics and thats what i want to cover right now im 15 and i cant wait to meet u guys!!!!!!!
kabobman99 1 month ago
First, being discouraging to students doesn't work for everybody. Second, there is a difference between being discouraging and telling the truth; which is what Ana's professor did for her. Telling a student the truth with salary facts etc. is ok. Being discouraging is not.
brionnakennedy 1 month ago
Imagine a Dick Professor who gives u 150 MCQ and expects you memorise everything for Anatomy and Physiology... fml
rohannesburg 1 month ago
"You're gonna suck and I'm gonna make sure you suck by not teaching you..." had a professor with that attitude last semester.
xrain90 1 month ago
At my uni here in Canada if the profs were consistently teaching classes with low marks on tests, the school wasn't happy because it reflected poorly on them. We were required to fill out feedback sheets reporting our prof's performance in class and based on that feedback, the school decided whether to keep them around or not.
MonstrousTurtles 1 month ago
I wonder what school she goes to...
TiradeFaction 1 month ago
At my college, if any professor gave out that behavior, they would be fired.
Yamikaiba123 1 month ago
Jesus jayar has a huge nose
TheJethrotull32 1 month ago
Being discouraging can light a fire under some people's asses. Most everyone else has thick enough skin that it doesn't bug them much, so it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
DeJach 1 month ago
The best professor I had was a guy who the first day of class said.. here are your projects, you have the books, there wil be no lessons, you are on your own. turn in everything at the end of the semester.
it taught us to be self taught and not need a professor to hold our hands in our learning process.
xteric1 1 month ago
Professors as I have been told, by professors, get tenure and raises based on failing students, not passing them.
narazum0 1 month ago
@narazum0 Professors told you this, huh? Well, this one is telling you that you are flat out, dead wrong, insane to believe that person and/or go to your college. Excellent teaching; service to the university committees, and scholarship. And excellent teaching does NOT include failure rates. We barely get raises at all, since the GOP vilifies us at every turn. I make less five years in that I did when hired. A raise? Ha. Give me a break!
lifestandstillhere 1 month ago
I'm so sorry to be commenting on your looks ana, you have always been exeptionally beatifull, but now you'r getting to look sick! I hope you are still healthy and and staying well if not I hop you feel better! Lots of love from Norway!
Bennis83 1 month ago
Furthermore, what's even worse about this is that, not everyone is super rich, not even in Orange County. And with tuitions in California skyrocketing, it's expensive to get a higher education... yes, even to many Orange County residents. Besides, the first couple years are a wash at the universities. People might as well just go to community college, get those basic classes out of the way for a couple years and then transfer to a university.
TsugaruClan 1 month ago
How heartwarming to know that snobbery and ego is still alive and well in Orange County. There's never, ever any shortage of that in such a lovely place. Throw in materialism, ignorance, racial prejudice and excessive classism, and you have many cities in Orange County described to a T.
TsugaruClan 1 month ago
There is a fine line here. I had professors tell us (the class) that at most 20% of us will make As and Bs most will make Cs and Ds. For me, that is a challenge, I will try my best to be at the top of the class. HOWEVER, to tell students that they aint shit, and never will be shit is dead wrong. Im all for giving students a challenge to see what they are mad of but Im against breaking a student's spirit/bulling
Unekwu89 1 month ago
I completely agree with Ana... i love proving people wrong... the first person who i proved wrong was my 8th grade teacher who said i would never make it through high school and i would never be a good enough student... I'm graduating from high school this year with honors, 7 AP classes, and i am a intellectual person.... SOOO i definitely proved her wrong!!! hahahaha
jeyart94 1 month ago
reverse psychology does not work for everyone. and some profs have massive egos.
MacAronySalsa 1 month ago
i hate teachers like that and its so fucking stupid that they do shit like that and everybody needs to be encouraged to do things instead of discouraged mine were encouraging when i was in highschool and college in highschool i was already like i am only doing what i want and it is messed up when teachers try to make students fail and there are some teachers like that and its WRONG
kazooga1234 1 month ago 2
Had a biology prof. just like this....felt good passing that class.
moonmilk15 1 month ago
What she needs to do is point out that her teacher is teaching at a Community College.
Christfollower29 1 month ago 33
@Christfollower29 community colleges arent bad.
endauthority 1 month ago
@endauthority I know Im in community college right now. But when it comes to being a professor at community college it means your not really that good of a teacher.
Christfollower29 1 month ago
@Christfollower29 i disagree many cc teachers love to teach, phd teachers are too busy.
endauthority 1 month ago
@endauthority Yea, thats very true, its nothing really against community college teacher. I have a lot a respect for most of my teachers, but every teacher I have had so far probably couldnt teach at Harvard or Princeton or any universities at that level.
Christfollower29 1 month ago
non sequitur. no one gives a shit if you go to a cc. they give a shit if you do nothing after going to a cc.
payasoinfeliz 1 month ago
omg I remember one of my friend's professor from community college took a picture of the class on his phone while they were taking a test, and posted it on his Facebook with the caption of something along the lines of, "Giving a bunch of wannabe doctors an exam" I remember the term "wannabe doctors" was used specifically.
itsliz89 1 month ago
As long as the professor is not intentionally trying to fail students, I'd say they're just being bluntly honest. It might sound mean and discouraging, but it's reality.
snackynak 1 month ago 2
It feels like professors with tenure don't care whether their students succeed or not. They're too busy with their own studies, research, and papers to actually have time to really teach. When the goal of the school is to manufacture graduates and produce research for funding, quality takes a back seat. That's just my take on it.
HunnyBadger15 1 month ago
@HunnyBadger15 It's a community college, as far as I know little to no research is conducted and tenure is rare, or at least far less common.
TiradeFaction 1 month ago
@TiradeFaction Oh wow, I totally overlooked that fact. In that case, there really is no excuse. I don't know if community colleges have tenure, but teacher evaluations should get people like that fired.
HunnyBadger15 1 month ago
@HunnyBadger15 Oh they have tenure, it's just far less common than in universities, and research is almost never conducted as an official function of a community college. It's why you're more likely to find a professor actually teaching at a community college, rather than his/her TA's
TiradeFaction 1 month ago
@TiradeFaction You're right about them actually teaching, but sometimes it seems like they coddle their students. I don't know if it's the case for all community colleges, but the one I went to for dual enrollment had a very "high school" environment to it.
HunnyBadger15 1 month ago
@HunnyBadger15 Oh yeah no doubt about it. Especially when you're in the "average" or "below average (remedial)" classes, it's very high school like. Though on the flip side, it's nice to be around professors who ostensibly at least want to teach. Though a lot are actually Uni professors who teach at a local CC as well for extra funds.
TiradeFaction 1 month ago
@TiradeFaction Agreed. :D
HunnyBadger15 1 month ago
Professors worked hard to get where they are. Some, because of this are assholes. I had a prof like this, he marked first year papers as though they were Phd dissertations. He also would continually put us down and talk down to us as though we were complete idiots.
TheRebekahF 1 month ago
I wonder if perhaps the student is spinning it negatively. I'm not saying she is, but maybe her prof did what Ana was talking about at the end - being straight with students and telling them about the reality of the market of the field. I did my undergrad in psych and I wish my profs had told us how much of a pipe dream it is to want to become a tenured psych prof, and how little competitive market value a psych degree holds (it is surely among the least valuable university degrees).
uoftron 1 month ago
Ana, say "motherfucker" more often. That shit is hardcore.
shade1978x 1 month ago
best thing to tell a student: "If you're good you'll make it." It's encouraging and realistic!
011235813213455T 1 month ago
I would say "well I might not be in the book among the rich and famous politicians, but you'll be sure to see me on the student newspaper for rallying to get your ass fired."
umbdude 1 month ago
I'm a professor and if I ever felt the need to "make a test harder" so a lot of people failed I would just quit. My job is to teach and encourage, to have students who learn (especially how to think for themselves!) and to make my assignments and tests difficult enough to be a challenge and to actually test your knowledge but not hard enough for people to fail. That's ridiculous.
jenisedai 1 month ago
@jenisedai Thank you for this. You sound like an excellent instructor.
ShalomDove 1 month ago
I dunno what the professor has said to the student in this case. But in my experience, fellow students are too sensitive whenever there is a lecturer who will actually challenge them. All of a sudden that lecturer is the worst in the world to them. My favorite lecturer last year, I think I'm the only person in that class who liked her. She expected you to read the material and if you're trying to answer questions when you hadn't studied she'd cut you down. She was awesome.
kainedamo 1 month ago
I would rather have a cynical professor that ignites a level of perseverance in me, by enraging me, than have a professor who lulls me into state of complacency by being unrealistically optimistic and flattering of everything I did. I graduated from my university over 12 years ago, and the classes that I got the most out of were NOT the ones that were overly cheery, as if we were in an episode of Barney the Purple Dinosaur.
alphacause 1 month ago
I remember an art teacher on 3rd grade who never attended a class without calling us a herd of sheep, he often told us how we are just a bunch of Bedouins who will never understand what "art" is, because we're only good at herding camels.
We found him very amusing and laughed at his rants which convinced him that he was right.
MostCommonName1 1 month ago
Jayar's professors wasn't an asshole, every professor I've had in college would do the same thing if grade were too high, because department standards mean only a specific percentage of students should get specific grades. Not saying I agree with it, just saying that's how it works at least at my university
Bonifeks51 1 month ago
That ending makes me once again feel like quoting flashdance (Irene Cara - What A Feeling):
Take your passion and make it happen.
gulllars 1 month ago
Ana and Jayar are forgetting another angle to Professors being discouraging towards students....Ego. Some professors are just bully professors who feel the need to put his/her students down. Albeit, its probably rare, but it does happen. In middle school, I had a reading teacher who was just a complete bitch to me and my friends for absolutely no reason. We had a nickname for her and everything.
trier4952 1 month ago 51
@trier4952 What was the nickname? You can't end your comment there! :P
14Schofield 1 month ago
@14Schofield well, she was a short, fat dumpling of a woman named Mrs. Byrd. My friends and I called her 'Bitch Pigeon"
trier4952 1 month ago
@trier4952 If it started with a C and rhymed with Runt.... I'd say not a very impressive nickname.... However my curiosity is piqued and I would love to know what it was.
korusi 1 month ago
@trier4952 I have a couple professors like that. Assholes and bitches.
narazum0 1 month ago
@trier4952 what was her nickname?
thrashblackdeath666 1 month ago
Who was her professor, Sheldon Cooper?
LogicBeforeNorms 1 month ago 2
@LogicBeforeNorms lmao
MostCommonName1 1 month ago
Nothing wrong with a little of tough love.
NikEgUy101 1 month ago
Well, the professor was largely honest. That's how our system is set up to run.
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 month ago
Someone from a community college in my area made it into Harvard law after she went through UCs tag program
snofthndr 1 month ago 36
@snofthndr similar to a woman in my state. She started at a cc then ended up at Harvard Business Grad.
TransmissionFilms 3 weeks ago
I'm okay with it. If you gave up on your dreams because a teacher (also in community college) told you to, you're almost certainly one of the people who genuinely wouldn't amount to anything politically.
MarsManatee 1 month ago
@MarsManatee Interesting point but I would have to agree with you. Sometimes you need to be knocked down to be able to come back stronger.
BrooklynJEW7 1 month ago
i once had a professor that said anyone who scored lower than a C on a project are pathetic and are failures. ._.;
DumplingzOwO 1 month ago
@DumplingzOwO btw, she sucked as a professor. and no, i did not get a C. :V
DumplingzOwO 1 month ago
I heard from a student in University that his professor told the class all but about 5 of them would fail the class on the first day.
Zuriki09 1 month ago
what the hell jayar, a michigan state sweater and now this shit??
H3770mynameis 1 month ago
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Zsmart 1 month ago