great video Walters!!!! love it!! so how long ago did you get these? are they 2011? I don't know when you did this vid, b/c I didnt look. Todays date is February 10th
Awesome and funny video, man! I recently went through my old G.I. Joe figures after I had seen the new movie and the nostalgia was overwhelming. I also ended up "buying the hell out of them". I especially liked Destro, Storm Shadow and Cobra Commander.
I have the whole collection and it took me a while to get it together but i finally got it and some variants plus the mail away doc and sdcc pimp destro.
this is an off topic question, but does anyone know what episode of the old cartoon it was, where cobra commander was turned back into a human from being a snake (due to the events that took place in the G.I. Joe movie)? I can vaguely remember from childhood Destro being there and somehow helping out with it. The VHS it was on actually may have come with one of the action figures. Im not sure though.
Awesome review totally agree. So many memories playing with these guys. But I don't agree Cobra rules, if sempentor had been completed as designed they woul of kicked the crap out of GI Joe
Instant time travel. And you wonder why we haven't took them out.
To me, they are truly valuable. I'm not usually a MIB or MOC type, but when I got them, I decided to keep them in their little cards. I just can't do it.
Hit up ebay...you'll probably pay more but at least you'd have him...i've been pretty lucky in that i've found almost all of them in the stores for low prices...keep up the good fight brother, Ryan
eBay is a good place to find them, especally in lots. You have to do a little bidding action, but if you win, you get a whole bunch of them in one go. Hmmm....maybe I should try that sometime.
@FamilyDUDE777 Zartan is in the Cobra 5 Pack with Storm Shadow on the cover. He comes with Hooded Cobra Commander, Storm Shadow, Baroness and Cobra Viper
Im more of a fan of the Marvel comics series so I get one of them comic 2-packs if I see one I dont have everytime I go to Wal-Mart. Actually I buy any GI Joe I dont have when I see it. I have practically the every figure in waves one through three. Cant find me a fucking Sgt. Flash though. Damn I have Grand-Slam and he is SWEET! Wish he came with a laser though.
There are slightly bigger. They look better than the originals. My only gripes some have a closed fist like Shipwreck, Hooded Cobra Commander, Crankcase ,and some have loose legs like comic pack blue Snake eyes.
I got that comic two pack with the Crimson guard and the Scar face trooper when I went to Toys r us today. There were just two left. I got one. There's one left now. I'm enjoying it like all the others I have so far.
I'm collecting them little by little. I've got so far. Snake eyes versus Storm Shadow comic 2 pack, Singles Shipwreck, Singles Hooded Cobra Commander, Singles Dreadnok Buzzer, Dreadnok Torch and Ripper comic 2 pack, Ace and Wild Weasel comic 2 pack, and Destro with Breaker comic pack. I've got 11 in total so far.
I saw G.I. Joe 25th anniversary Cobra Crimson Guard with Cobra Scar Face Trooper comic 2 pack in Toys r us for 10 bucks on my area. It's worth getting definately. Look out for it.
Especially there are so many scalpers around you got to act quick. Go going Wally! I saw pimp daddy destro on three separate trips I went to toysrus. Why didn't I get him? He was there in front of me too. Saw one left of the Snake eyes with white timber wolf earlier in the year at Kmart. Why didn't I grabbed it? It was only once that I saw him at any store too. I loathe for a Flint, Zartan, Rock n' Roll, Beach head, Torpedo, Baroness, Firefly. Any of those! Will there be more on the way?
I know that they're planning on releasing more and more of these guys!! I decided to pass on Crimson Guard for some reason and now i want his ass and i can't find them anywhere haha from now on if i see it im buying it no matter what haha
Yeah the guy sounds like a dead ringer for Jesse Ventura when he sings the G.I. Joe theme song. So it is not him. I see. The song still rocks anyway til this day. Rock on!
Hasbro was smart releasing these relatively close to the movie announcement, but what sucks is people are purchasing these as investments. Most people bought them in the 80s just as toys that were broken, lost, and traded. Which increased the values, now today everyone is buying them to sell on E-Bay, thinking they are going to make thousands but in fact only impulsive buyers would pay anything over retail. Unfortunately for them these are not that hard to get your hands on.
Last year I saw like 3-4 Flints in one day at a kaybee in Englewood NJ. I was thinking of Quiting My job so I didn't get him to save cash. He was my favorite in the 80's and he was always "my guy" that I used when we played with our Joes. He is a bitch and a half to find and being sold for sick amounts on Ebay. I got one this week to pretty much just look at on a wall. I wanna get my nephews into these and so I also picked up 2 old Flints(one 80's/one 2005ish one to keep one to play with them!
i have all the 25th anniverary figs right now except for flint hes hard to find.and i cant belive that snake eyes with white timber costs so much in ebay he is at like 40 bucks.now you cant find him.i remember everytime i went to toys r us i would see like 3 everytime if i knew he costs this much right now i would haved buyed all of them and sell 1 a peice for 35 bucks.then buy more cobra!!!!! for my army.long live serpentor!!!!!!
I am only missing 4 single figures to have the complete single collection: Snake Eyes with Black Timber, Sgt. Stalker in the yellow Camouflage, and the 2 exclusive Destros. I have all the rest, including all 3 Shipwrecks and the Zartan w/o the Color Changing Face on the package!
I also have another "Variant" that I don't think many know about. It is a wave 2 Cobra Trooper and the name "Cobra" above the bubble doesn't have a black border around the letters. Thanks for replying, and maybe someday I can get my collection on here so you can see them!
Great video. few days i get 25th Crimson Guard,Cobra Trooper and Cobra officer and soon i will have Duke,Scarlett,Shipwrech,Stalker and Roadblock 25th anniversary figures.
nice video! today i got 3 g.i joe 25th anniversary figure. Crimson guard,Cobra trooper and Cobra officer. plus i already have Storm-Shadow(joe version),Red ninja and Zartan
I bought the Cobra box set, very cool. what is the difference between the regular soldier in the box set and the one at the end of this video? the one in the box has a black dragunov rifle with a scope. the one in the package has a brown/black SKS looking gun sans scope.
I highly reccomend the Cobra set. Baroness has a leg sheath for a knife. Destro has a holster & pistol. Storm Shadow has a throwing knife that can be put into his belt. how cool is that?
The differences are very hard to spot. The Cobra Trooper in the 5 pack has a slightly different colored rifle from the Wave 2 one, and the Cobra insignia on its chest is red, unlike the one in Wave 2, which its insignia is white. Hope this helped ya!
i prob would buy them. but my step dad doesn't approve of toys so.... and starts fights with me cause i collect transformers and calls me immature and "mentally abuses" me. but hes always been like that. hes a real ass with me!
how'd you get those? whenever i go to target the only ones they have are buzzer and shipwreck (and they look bland, so i don't buy them), but where do you buy yours?
I've gotten most of mine at Target...I've bought a few of them at Walmart as well...just have to be lucky and be at the right place at the right time because they don't stay on the shelves very long!
Kick ass man! I saw some them at the Target by my house. I really love the molds of Snakeeyes and Destro. I wonder if you could buy them in a big set on Ebay. Hasbro did a really good job on these. I hope they'll evetually release the whole collection!
I agree the best toys were TF's & GIJOE , -- then M.A.S.K Then Voltron , then turtles , this is awsome ! about time we had GIJOE review keep up the excellant work -mike
I still have Zartan with his grasshopper water scooter and trailer. That vehicle also changes color when you put him in sunlight. Zartan was my favorite character.
Zartan was definitely one of the coolest characters that was released especially because of his color changing ability...These 25th anniversary Joe's were an absolute no brainer when i heard about them coming out...i hope they continue bringing more of them out!
I had Snake Eyes too, but he was stolen as well (man, what's with all this stealing?) so now I only have his backpack+sword and wolf. I had Tomax and Xamot, but (probably the same guy) stole one of those Twins. I don't remember who's who, but their appearances were mirrored from each other (haircut, etc.). I liked the Cobra characters much more than the Joe's.
Man you should of had a lock on your drawer or something! I liked the JOE's for than the Cobra guys, but now i love em all...Shipwreck, Beachhead, Flint, Snakeyes, and Sgt Slaughter were some of my favorite JOE's...best, Ryan
Our drawers didn't have locks because they were intended for drawings, notes and stuff like that. I still have 2 add-ons. One is a motorized mountain climber. The other is the famous Cobra jet pack with glass shield (1/4 sphere). I also have the Cobra helicopter with open cockpit but one rotor blade is broken :(
I had a Cobra Trooper but he was stolen from my desk drawer at school. Cobra Commander was a mailaway over here but only as the towel mask version. I received the same Cobra Commander as yours yesterday (loose figure + stand, pistol and biocard from eBay). I have Storm Shadow, he's awesome. In the cartoon he always wore that white T-shirt, even when it was freezing! I didn't like Destro because he was higher ranked than Cobra Commander who was much cooler.
Dude they are awesome...just google them and you'll find plenty of pics of them...i can't wait to get em! They come with awesome like diorama's to set them up with too which is great...more for display than to play with which i really like since they basically just sit chill on a shelf...best, Ry
Thanks Rojas! Im addicted to all 80's toys haha can't wait until the old school NECA Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle toys come out...they look great and were another favorite of mine when i was a kid...peace, Ryan
beach head is on my top 5
xACExShadowlord 2 months ago
Your 1 Dislike is probably your wife....lol
Scarecrow76 11 months ago
great video Walters!!!! love it!! so how long ago did you get these? are they 2011? I don't know when you did this vid, b/c I didnt look. Todays date is February 10th
CubbieBear1980 11 months ago
badassnes rofl awsome happy face salse
XxHaloManXx7 1 year ago
This is an ADDICTION(collecting/hunting)these figures..I started about 2 and half years ago and now with the movie figs I have about 85 total
jtshape78 1 year ago
man these are cool! yo joe!!!
grotezakhooi 1 year ago
Awesome and funny video, man! I recently went through my old G.I. Joe figures after I had seen the new movie and the nostalgia was overwhelming. I also ended up "buying the hell out of them". I especially liked Destro, Storm Shadow and Cobra Commander.
jankogo 2 years ago
cool video man, gi joe was my all time fav as a kid - didn't know they had a 25th anniversery issue - might start picking them up now
nwpamundsen 2 years ago
shit so fuckkkin funny. I thought beachhead was the shit. and storm shadow. this video was cool.
brympa 2 years ago
were can you get them
starwars47100 2 years ago
at 3:20 what version storm shadow is that ? i want that version
elementsk8forlife 2 years ago
the pistols are so easy to loose
rockaholicks 2 years ago
dose your cobras elbows bend? mine dont
crabheart 2 years ago
I have the whole collection and it took me a while to get it together but i finally got it and some variants plus the mail away doc and sdcc pimp destro.
nrmejia 2 years ago
were did you get all those fiures? i only have buzzer and sgt bazooka,i dont find the others
ichicolla 2 years ago
this is an off topic question, but does anyone know what episode of the old cartoon it was, where cobra commander was turned back into a human from being a snake (due to the events that took place in the G.I. Joe movie)? I can vaguely remember from childhood Destro being there and somehow helping out with it. The VHS it was on actually may have come with one of the action figures. Im not sure though.
danhammerstien 2 years ago
I recently became a G.I. Joe fan and I bought Scarlett. since she is my 2nd favorite character
CollectionTF 2 years ago
The lady jaye in the dvd battle packs
is a 100 times better looking
than the single card!
jtshape78 2 years ago 2
How can you not buy the hell out of these new GI Joe figures!
ArticulationTimes 3 years ago
I can't stop! It's a blast from the past man!
cobrabase 2 years ago
I found all the variants of Snakeeyes singles, also if you notice, snowjob and the old blizzard figure have the same pic on cover just different face
xXBallistic82Xx 3 years ago
Hell yeah bro me too
SICMetal74 3 years ago
Awesome review totally agree. So many memories playing with these guys. But I don't agree Cobra rules, if sempentor had been completed as designed they woul of kicked the crap out of GI Joe
forgettablefoe 3 years ago
Great Review!!!!!!!!! My favorite one is Shipwreck, hands down! I want the newest collection with the Native American figure and the vipers!
dmarquis24 3 years ago
They are releasing a comic pack with Zartan later. Wait for that one instead. I've also heard that version of Zartan will be a better upgrade.
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
i dont know how you control yourself , i would have opened them all and played with them already....instant time travel
lotusblack80 3 years ago
Instant time travel. And you wonder why we haven't took them out.
To me, they are truly valuable. I'm not usually a MIB or MOC type, but when I got them, I decided to keep them in their little cards. I just can't do it.
VideoY3K 3 years ago
and dude i cant FIND ZARTAN!!!!!!!!
FamilyDUDE777 3 years ago
Hit up ebay...you'll probably pay more but at least you'd have him...i've been pretty lucky in that i've found almost all of them in the stores for low prices...keep up the good fight brother, Ryan
rwalters6986 3 years ago
eBay is a good place to find them, especally in lots. You have to do a little bidding action, but if you win, you get a whole bunch of them in one go. Hmmm....maybe I should try that sometime.
VideoY3K 3 years ago
@FamilyDUDE777 Zartan is in the Cobra 5 Pack with Storm Shadow on the cover. He comes with Hooded Cobra Commander, Storm Shadow, Baroness and Cobra Viper
arobb2007 4 months ago
i have the 3 one pack gijoes i have the cobra trooper and the i have the 2 pack comic book one with Duke and Cobra Cammander no hood
FamilyDUDE777 3 years ago
Snake eyes is my favorite GIJOE
xbjim 3 years ago
I love G.I. Joe figures. But you don't even open them. R u just a collector?
sfumato1002 3 years ago
Your not the only one that takes out his "collection" when the wife leaves.... and you forgot to mention one more kick ass 80's toy M.A.S.K
TheCartoonAttic 3 years ago
It rocks!
cobrabase 2 years ago
shit give me some
123dmckid 3 years ago
Im more of a fan of the Marvel comics series so I get one of them comic 2-packs if I see one I dont have everytime I go to Wal-Mart. Actually I buy any GI Joe I dont have when I see it. I have practically the every figure in waves one through three. Cant find me a fucking Sgt. Flash though. Damn I have Grand-Slam and he is SWEET! Wish he came with a laser though.
ciestheI 3 years ago
There are slightly bigger. They look better than the originals. My only gripes some have a closed fist like Shipwreck, Hooded Cobra Commander, Crankcase ,and some have loose legs like comic pack blue Snake eyes.
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
They are more detailed and are well better dones! :p
HUDJ0679790 3 years ago
i thought about getting into these since i'm an 80's kid. They just look too small or something to me. I liked the originals better.
I'll stick with Transformers.
rataranian 3 years ago
I got that comic two pack with the Crimson guard and the Scar face trooper when I went to Toys r us today. There were just two left. I got one. There's one left now. I'm enjoying it like all the others I have so far.
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
I'm collecting them little by little. I've got so far. Snake eyes versus Storm Shadow comic 2 pack, Singles Shipwreck, Singles Hooded Cobra Commander, Singles Dreadnok Buzzer, Dreadnok Torch and Ripper comic 2 pack, Ace and Wild Weasel comic 2 pack, and Destro with Breaker comic pack. I've got 11 in total so far.
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
I saw G.I. Joe 25th anniversary Cobra Crimson Guard with Cobra Scar Face Trooper comic 2 pack in Toys r us for 10 bucks on my area. It's worth getting definately. Look out for it.
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
I meant lust for any of those figures. Didn't mean loathe.
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
Especially there are so many scalpers around you got to act quick. Go going Wally! I saw pimp daddy destro on three separate trips I went to toysrus. Why didn't I get him? He was there in front of me too. Saw one left of the Snake eyes with white timber wolf earlier in the year at Kmart. Why didn't I grabbed it? It was only once that I saw him at any store too. I loathe for a Flint, Zartan, Rock n' Roll, Beach head, Torpedo, Baroness, Firefly. Any of those! Will there be more on the way?
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
I know that they're planning on releasing more and more of these guys!! I decided to pass on Crimson Guard for some reason and now i want his ass and i can't find them anywhere haha from now on if i see it im buying it no matter what haha
rwalters6986 3 years ago
Yeah the guy sounds like a dead ringer for Jesse Ventura when he sings the G.I. Joe theme song. So it is not him. I see. The song still rocks anyway til this day. Rock on!
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
dude freakin sick collection man you got like all of the figures released so far...whats your secret man
eastsideboy148 3 years ago
haha no secret just a bunch of hunting at all the different stores that i could find them...Target was the best place in my area.
rwalters6986 3 years ago
Is that Jesse The Body Ventura singing the G.I. Joe theme song? I always wondered if it was him?
SpacerAM2 3 years ago
haha i don't think so, but it would be rad if he had been the one singing it haha
rwalters6986 3 years ago
Dude you are funny! My wife is out of the house!! LOL... I know what you mean.!! GI Joe..my favorite!
I was @ TOys R Us..saw them and didn't get them!..
devmor64 3 years ago
gotta do what you can when the wife is away haha. You should pick some of these up cuz they're fantastic broham!
rwalters6986 3 years ago
Broham! Awesome word! Haven't used it in awhile....We need to bring this word back
newmark2020 3 years ago
I've been doing my best to bring it back haha i use it all the time..spread the good word Sir!
rwalters6986 3 years ago
Hasbro was smart releasing these relatively close to the movie announcement, but what sucks is people are purchasing these as investments. Most people bought them in the 80s just as toys that were broken, lost, and traded. Which increased the values, now today everyone is buying them to sell on E-Bay, thinking they are going to make thousands but in fact only impulsive buyers would pay anything over retail. Unfortunately for them these are not that hard to get your hands on.
RuinerxxSINCITY 3 years ago
Last year I saw like 3-4 Flints in one day at a kaybee in Englewood NJ. I was thinking of Quiting My job so I didn't get him to save cash. He was my favorite in the 80's and he was always "my guy" that I used when we played with our Joes. He is a bitch and a half to find and being sold for sick amounts on Ebay. I got one this week to pretty much just look at on a wall. I wanna get my nephews into these and so I also picked up 2 old Flints(one 80's/one 2005ish one to keep one to play with them!
newmark2020 3 years ago
i have all the 25th anniverary figs right now except for flint hes hard to find.and i cant belive that snake eyes with white timber costs so much in ebay he is at like 40 bucks.now you cant find him.i remember everytime i went to toys r us i would see like 3 everytime if i knew he costs this much right now i would haved buyed all of them and sell 1 a peice for 35 bucks.then buy more cobra!!!!! for my army.long live serpentor!!!!!!
tomax5673 3 years ago
I am only missing 4 single figures to have the complete single collection: Snake Eyes with Black Timber, Sgt. Stalker in the yellow Camouflage, and the 2 exclusive Destros. I have all the rest, including all 3 Shipwrecks and the Zartan w/o the Color Changing Face on the package!
gijoefan1985 3 years ago
Damn that's impressive! I would love pimp daddy Destro in the leopard print but he's expensive as hell haha..later, Ryan
rwalters6986 3 years ago
I also have another "Variant" that I don't think many know about. It is a wave 2 Cobra Trooper and the name "Cobra" above the bubble doesn't have a black border around the letters. Thanks for replying, and maybe someday I can get my collection on here so you can see them!
gijoefan1985 3 years ago
Great video. few days i get 25th Crimson Guard,Cobra Trooper and Cobra officer and soon i will have Duke,Scarlett,Shipwrech,Stalker and Roadblock 25th anniversary figures.
Hordak84 3 years ago
Thanks dude! I passed on the crimson guard for some reason, but now i want him and can't find him anywhere..later, Ryan
rwalters6986 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing. I've been trying to collect them as well. I modeled snake eyes and storm shadow in 3D. You can check it out on my 3D reel.
ComicsLegend 3 years ago
nice video! today i got 3 g.i joe 25th anniversary figure. Crimson guard,Cobra trooper and Cobra officer. plus i already have Storm-Shadow(joe version),Red ninja and Zartan
Hordak84 3 years ago
G I Joe rocks!
lobsterworm 3 years ago
I bought the Cobra box set, very cool. what is the difference between the regular soldier in the box set and the one at the end of this video? the one in the box has a black dragunov rifle with a scope. the one in the package has a brown/black SKS looking gun sans scope.
I highly reccomend the Cobra set. Baroness has a leg sheath for a knife. Destro has a holster & pistol. Storm Shadow has a throwing knife that can be put into his belt. how cool is that?
trickynicky30 3 years ago
The differences are very hard to spot. The Cobra Trooper in the 5 pack has a slightly different colored rifle from the Wave 2 one, and the Cobra insignia on its chest is red, unlike the one in Wave 2, which its insignia is white. Hope this helped ya!
gijoefan1985 3 years ago
thanks for the explanation
trickynicky30 3 years ago
Not a problem. Glad I could be of help.
gijoefan1985 3 years ago
i have the original strom shadow :)
PrimeReviews 3 years ago
yeah they r hard to find i want da battle armored cobra commander bad
starscream305 3 years ago
i prob would buy them. but my step dad doesn't approve of toys so.... and starts fights with me cause i collect transformers and calls me immature and "mentally abuses" me. but hes always been like that. hes a real ass with me!
TristanPrime 4 years ago
Sorry to hear that broham...I wish you could meet my dad cuz he's the complete opposite...he loves toys and also collects them just like me!
rwalters6986 3 years ago
how'd you get those? whenever i go to target the only ones they have are buzzer and shipwreck (and they look bland, so i don't buy them), but where do you buy yours?
skayj5 4 years ago
I've gotten most of mine at Target...I've bought a few of them at Walmart as well...just have to be lucky and be at the right place at the right time because they don't stay on the shelves very long!
rwalters6986 4 years ago
Kick ass man! I saw some them at the Target by my house. I really love the molds of Snakeeyes and Destro. I wonder if you could buy them in a big set on Ebay. Hasbro did a really good job on these. I hope they'll evetually release the whole collection!
daneviler 4 years ago
robotech was cool too ( the robots & valkyre)
mikesgtrs2 4 years ago
I agree the best toys were TF's & GIJOE , -- then M.A.S.K Then Voltron , then turtles , this is awsome ! about time we had GIJOE review keep up the excellant work -mike
mikesgtrs2 4 years ago
I still have Zartan with his grasshopper water scooter and trailer. That vehicle also changes color when you put him in sunlight. Zartan was my favorite character.
huryochagi 4 years ago
Zartan was definitely one of the coolest characters that was released especially because of his color changing ability...These 25th anniversary Joe's were an absolute no brainer when i heard about them coming out...i hope they continue bringing more of them out!
rwalters6986 4 years ago
I had Snake Eyes too, but he was stolen as well (man, what's with all this stealing?) so now I only have his backpack+sword and wolf. I had Tomax and Xamot, but (probably the same guy) stole one of those Twins. I don't remember who's who, but their appearances were mirrored from each other (haircut, etc.). I liked the Cobra characters much more than the Joe's.
huryochagi 4 years ago
Man you should of had a lock on your drawer or something! I liked the JOE's for than the Cobra guys, but now i love em all...Shipwreck, Beachhead, Flint, Snakeyes, and Sgt Slaughter were some of my favorite JOE's...best, Ryan
rwalters6986 4 years ago
Our drawers didn't have locks because they were intended for drawings, notes and stuff like that. I still have 2 add-ons. One is a motorized mountain climber. The other is the famous Cobra jet pack with glass shield (1/4 sphere). I also have the Cobra helicopter with open cockpit but one rotor blade is broken :(
huryochagi 4 years ago
I had a Cobra Trooper but he was stolen from my desk drawer at school. Cobra Commander was a mailaway over here but only as the towel mask version. I received the same Cobra Commander as yours yesterday (loose figure + stand, pistol and biocard from eBay). I have Storm Shadow, he's awesome. In the cartoon he always wore that white T-shirt, even when it was freezing! I didn't like Destro because he was higher ranked than Cobra Commander who was much cooler.
huryochagi 4 years ago
I love the Turtles
I hadn't even heard about the range coming out
Thanks for telling me man!!
vonrojas 4 years ago
Dude they are awesome...just google them and you'll find plenty of pics of them...i can't wait to get em! They come with awesome like diorama's to set them up with too which is great...more for display than to play with which i really like since they basically just sit chill on a shelf...best, Ry
rwalters6986 4 years ago
Man, Nice ass video.
Unfortunately, I really couldn't get with it, We had Action Man here in the UK more so than GI Joe.
Still, It is good to see anyone who cans still give a toss about 80's toys, lol
vonrojas 4 years ago
Thanks Rojas! Im addicted to all 80's toys haha can't wait until the old school NECA Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle toys come out...they look great and were another favorite of mine when i was a kid...peace, Ryan
rwalters6986 4 years ago