@dyersev The argument made by those on the left is that Cuba and Russia were/are NOT true models of socialism therefore [they argue] the ideology cannot be dismissed as a failure. Similarly Rand argues that true liberal capitalism has not been a failure, because no one's lived it yet. Both argue that the thinking is sound, but unpractised. And the American 'success story' would require a 65% income tax rate to repay the trillions in debt that it's success is built upon. It is a house of sand.
@mancent No, what Rand and other Objectivists say is that prosperity increases as one tends towards freedom. There are different levels of economic freedom, there are not different levels of socialism. Just look around the world: the freer a state is the more prosperous it is. If we ever reach the point of true freedom we will be at our most prosperous.
@PureLiberalFire Why do so many people believe in creationism? It's called ideology (or religion in the case of creationism.) People don't WANT to accept that capitalism is moral and creates wealth; real world observable evidence be damned.
@SpellboundSolution People believe in, and are loyal to, ideology ABOVE that of truth, and even above their own life. It's a terrifying phenomenon. I wonder in what sense *I MYSELF* am guilty of this irrationality, stupidity, and self-destruction...
@PureLiberalFire I think it's possible to change a person's most dearly held beliefs though. I, like Yaron, was a leftist in my earlier years. When we are emotionally driven and see society in such simplistic terms as "rich" and "poor" (which may have been a better approximation of society before capitalism) socialist bromides make sense. It's said that if you're not a Marxist by your 18th birthday you have no heart, if you're still a Marxist by your 30th birthday you have no brain.
@SpellboundSolution I was a strong leftist until 17 when I ran across a tiny tract from the libertarians, which impacted me a bit. At 18 I ran across Ayn Rand and she impacted me overwhelmingly (and not completely for the good).
It's important to be forever searching, hungry, and ambitious, in my view. Also forever open-minded. The evil CULT version of Objectivism, as taught by Brook and ARI, is a true menace to personal happiness.
"Where is this Capitalism that was practiced and then failed?" - Sounds exactly like the argument that Communism/State Socialism is not a dead ideology because it has never been practiced. For his argument that the central bank and state intervention was to blame for the failure, swap in "We didn't have Communism, in say, Cuba, because global blockades by Western Powers undermined the system." Both are fatuous arguments
@mancent Well America has been the engine of economic growth were as Cuba and Russia have not. Your argument would be fair had Russia or any communist country had been a successful realitive to the United State.
Lets spread this message so when and if things get worst ordinary folks understand exactly what happened and whats to blame. Therefore we don't go even more in a wrong direction. The politicians have already distorted the facts.
English majors sure understand human nature better than economists do. If, as Krugman said, "homo economicus" is perfectly rational, Who are the folks who came up with this idea to get educated? Didn't they read Shakespeare, Locke, Rousseau, Hobbes, Dickens, Trollope, Proust, Zola, or even Freud?
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I think we all know now that capitalism doesn't work---too many boom and bust cycles. The real culprit in all of this is freedom: people just can't be allowed to do whatever the hell it is they want to do. Because it ends up affecting all of us.
Freedom is a basic right, a requirement of mans life. As for it "affecting us all" there will still be a law court, for when my rights i.e freedom has been infringed..
Mr. Medworth, could you please make each successive installment a "Video Response" to the installment that preceded it? That is, could you please make Part 2 of this series a Video Response to Part 1? :-)
Any honest person knows America has not been a free market. The first thing you're taught in high school economics is that America is a mixed economic system. Of course, you don't often hear it stated out in the open lately.
@dyersev The argument made by those on the left is that Cuba and Russia were/are NOT true models of socialism therefore [they argue] the ideology cannot be dismissed as a failure. Similarly Rand argues that true liberal capitalism has not been a failure, because no one's lived it yet. Both argue that the thinking is sound, but unpractised. And the American 'success story' would require a 65% income tax rate to repay the trillions in debt that it's success is built upon. It is a house of sand.
mancent 1 year ago
@mancent No, what Rand and other Objectivists say is that prosperity increases as one tends towards freedom. There are different levels of economic freedom, there are not different levels of socialism. Just look around the world: the freer a state is the more prosperous it is. If we ever reach the point of true freedom we will be at our most prosperous.
SpellboundSolution 9 months ago
Economic freedom is 100% morally good and 100% practically workable. How can anyone not KNOW this?!
PureLiberalFire 1 year ago
@PureLiberalFire Why do so many people believe in creationism? It's called ideology (or religion in the case of creationism.) People don't WANT to accept that capitalism is moral and creates wealth; real world observable evidence be damned.
SpellboundSolution 9 months ago
@SpellboundSolution People believe in, and are loyal to, ideology ABOVE that of truth, and even above their own life. It's a terrifying phenomenon. I wonder in what sense *I MYSELF* am guilty of this irrationality, stupidity, and self-destruction...
PureLiberalFire 9 months ago
@PureLiberalFire I think it's possible to change a person's most dearly held beliefs though. I, like Yaron, was a leftist in my earlier years. When we are emotionally driven and see society in such simplistic terms as "rich" and "poor" (which may have been a better approximation of society before capitalism) socialist bromides make sense. It's said that if you're not a Marxist by your 18th birthday you have no heart, if you're still a Marxist by your 30th birthday you have no brain.
SpellboundSolution 9 months ago
@SpellboundSolution I was a strong leftist until 17 when I ran across a tiny tract from the libertarians, which impacted me a bit. At 18 I ran across Ayn Rand and she impacted me overwhelmingly (and not completely for the good).
It's important to be forever searching, hungry, and ambitious, in my view. Also forever open-minded. The evil CULT version of Objectivism, as taught by Brook and ARI, is a true menace to personal happiness.
PureLiberalFire 9 months ago
@PureLiberalFire Having a value system that one believes in makes one a member of a cult?
SpellboundSolution 9 months ago
"Where is this Capitalism that was practiced and then failed?" - Sounds exactly like the argument that Communism/State Socialism is not a dead ideology because it has never been practiced. For his argument that the central bank and state intervention was to blame for the failure, swap in "We didn't have Communism, in say, Cuba, because global blockades by Western Powers undermined the system." Both are fatuous arguments
mancent 2 years ago
@mancent Well America has been the engine of economic growth were as Cuba and Russia have not. Your argument would be fair had Russia or any communist country had been a successful realitive to the United State.
dyersev 1 year ago
makes us think
cardcreditdebtelimin 2 years ago
Lets spread this message so when and if things get worst ordinary folks understand exactly what happened and whats to blame. Therefore we don't go even more in a wrong direction. The politicians have already distorted the facts.
Daniel44125 2 years ago 3
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"I hate Ayn Rand"
Francis, Left 4 Dead
AbtinX 2 years ago
English majors sure understand human nature better than economists do. If, as Krugman said, "homo economicus" is perfectly rational, Who are the folks who came up with this idea to get educated? Didn't they read Shakespeare, Locke, Rousseau, Hobbes, Dickens, Trollope, Proust, Zola, or even Freud?
aikido7 2 years ago
Yaron could have used the following analogy. It looks like a glass of water, but mix one drop of poison, it will kill you.
markblogger 2 years ago 7
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I think we all know now that capitalism doesn't work---too many boom and bust cycles. The real culprit in all of this is freedom: people just can't be allowed to do whatever the hell it is they want to do. Because it ends up affecting all of us.
mangrovesea 2 years ago
If you're not good enough to be free, then you're not good enough for capitalism.
markblogger 2 years ago 2
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If you think you are free in capitalism, you aren't good enough to be a human being.
AbtinX 2 years ago
Freedom is a basic right, a requirement of mans life. As for it "affecting us all" there will still be a law court, for when my rights i.e freedom has been infringed..
snakeinthegrass20 2 years ago 4
killer. yaron knows his stuff!
LegalizeCapitalism 2 years ago 13
bettter believe he does.
Bigturns33 2 years ago
Mr. Medworth, could you please make each successive installment a "Video Response" to the installment that preceded it? That is, could you please make Part 2 of this series a Video Response to Part 1? :-)
legendre007 2 years ago 2
Any honest person knows America has not been a free market. The first thing you're taught in high school economics is that America is a mixed economic system. Of course, you don't often hear it stated out in the open lately.
IchorFigure 2 years ago 12
Thank you for uploading this. :-)
legendre007 2 years ago 4