Too many non-experts repeat bad tuba info! For the record, a tuba is a bass or contrabass brasswind instrument having a cup mouthpiece and a bore that is conical throughout, except for the valve section which is cylindrical, AND which is of sufficient conical taper to not be classed as a saxhorn (not to be confused with the saxophone), which is also conical but not as much so as the tuba. It does not matter how a tuba is wrapped, recording/concert basses, helicons, sousaphones are ALL tubas.
Best advice do not watch any more of Mr. Williams he is not good. There should be a method book in your band library. But your easiest open natural should be a Bb the valve will then allow you change the pitch by a half tone a tone and a tone and half this combined with different lip positions allow a full chromatic scale
ummm, can somebody help me, I just switched from clarinet to sousa and i have no idea how to play. my section leader just gave me a horn today after school and showed me how to put it together...sorta...any advice
tuba and sousaphone are basically the same instruments, ive played both and the only difference i see is that one is more preferrable for marching while the other is more prefferable for concert band
WOOO HOOO!! Boy did I learn a lot....why is it that all their videos are shot with mimes???? Do they have WMG protected music? Where do I send a pair of balls to so that they speak up?
Wow, you guys at Expert Village are so fucking stupid. THAT IS NOT A FUCKING TUBA! I've seen one many times before in person, and I can assure you that the bell faces UPWARDS, not at a 45 degree angle facing forwards. And that "tuba" you so call you're holding looks WAY too wide to even be a B flat tuba.
Yah I can see why people think the tuba in the vid is not it must be a much older tubal by the looks modern day tubas have upward facing bells and there are the jr. High version that is a 3/4 tuba and only has 3 valves and a high school whole tuba that may have rotory or piston valves and generally has 4 valves but there are others with thumb triggers and up to 6 valves. The Sousophone is a marching tuba respectively it has a smaller bore than a whole tuba and has it's forward facing bell with
This is a Tuba. Or atleast it's most commonly known and easyer name is. It is used to play low notes going far down the music scale. It is the most common form of a tuba, and is now souly used for concert preformances.
A Sousaphone is the name for the marching version of it. It was made by a man who thought that the tuba wasnt very easy for marching preformances, so he designed this to make playing the tuba while marching easyer.
You people are clueless...I've played various tubas and sousaphone for over 30 years and this is definitely a tuba. They come in all sizes from 5/4 to 3/4 scale with anywhere from 2 pistons (core bands) to 5 pistons (compensating) to 3 rotors to 5 and sometimes, but rarely, 6 rotors. Some have attached bells and others like this 5/4 recording tuba have detachable bells that are directional for primarily recording in the studio.
@stonepolismusic Also being as small as 1/2 size and up to 6/4 size, with combinations of rotors and valves, in different pitches (F, Eb, CC). If everyone wants to get super technical you're forgetting to call it a contrabass tuba. There, I just whipped out my dick into the pissing contest. Who cares what it's called.
@Zombbg4 Yep...your right! Left out the 6/4 and less common sizes, plus the multitude of piston/rotor combinations as these are typically an oddity/rarity - didn't want to cloud an already murky puddle of pee!
thats definetly close to a tuba than a sousaphone, however honestly its more like a gargatuan marching baritone. In fact it could be a marching tuba ( still not a sousaphone) if not for its tremendous size. The bell on that tube sticks out, like a sousaphone bell, which is highly irregular, its also by far the largest tuba I have ever seen, and that is by far the largest bell on a concert( again if it is a concert) tuba that i have ever seen.
tuba and sousaphone have basically the same sound depending on wat kind of tuba your playing sousaphone can have a better sound contra tuba's sound great. sousaphones sound good too if in the right hands if u hav a person who doesn't kno how to move with one on then the sound gets pretty bad.
I disagree. Sousaphones are specifically designed for elementary musicians, and I've yet to find one that I've actually liked. Professionals aren't in marching band. And, as such, you'll never find a "professional" sousaphone. You'll just find affordable ones where half the notes are out of tune.
actually, tubas and sousaphones do have about 100% the same sound, and sousaphones are very acurate, and you may think they're more affordable but in reality if you look for a tuba and sousaphone they will be around the same price range if they are of the same brand
Sure, they're not affordable compared to student models, but I've yet to find a sousaphone that has the quality of a Meinl Weston Fafner. It's like saying a french horn and mellophone are the same. They're similar in tone and playability, but the purpose is almost fundamentally different. Concert horns are designed for flexibility and agility, and sousaphones revolve quite a bit around volume.
And, while, yes, the same type of sound can be obtained from both, only the really superb marching ensembles will ask for something other than a loud, blatty tuba sound which, while often played with correct technique, is just quite different from the purpose of a solid symphonic horn. When I play sousaphone, I get a significant hit in my range (I lose about half an octave) and playing fast passages is like trying to make a U-turn on a two lane road with a semi.
of course sousaphones have a much higher volume capability because for marching, the volume needs to be projected and increased to be heard. in my school there are 225 students in the marching band, and only 7 of them are tuba/sousaphone players, without the added volume capabilities of sousaphones, it would be almost impossible to get our sound out to the audience over the 23 trombones or our army of trumpets
Dear boy, professionals are in marching bands. Just look at the United States armed forces bands. most of the time they use sousaphones , some times they will use contrabasses which are shoulder marching tubas
@PureZOOKS recording tuba or recording bass tuba's are commonly called basses in scores so can be referred to as the bass part but a concert tuba has the bell pointing up recording tuba's have the bell facing outward so it projects the sound towards the microphone or audience more.
@bernardhumperdink I'd be with you, but you knew what you were getting into when you came to an--and I use this term with as much irony and disdain as I can muster--"Expert" Village.
that tuba has a really big bell most tubas ive ever seen the bell are smaller and point upwards instead of forward. this tuba looks like it is made for marching LIKE a sousaphone.
it was made that way because it is a branch of tuba called a recording bass- back in the day when microphones were bad, they would have bells like that so it was easier to record, hence the name "recording bass"
hey you forgot about contrabass tubas, ya dingus,
whatistheretotype 2 weeks ago
Too many non-experts repeat bad tuba info! For the record, a tuba is a bass or contrabass brasswind instrument having a cup mouthpiece and a bore that is conical throughout, except for the valve section which is cylindrical, AND which is of sufficient conical taper to not be classed as a saxhorn (not to be confused with the saxophone), which is also conical but not as much so as the tuba. It does not matter how a tuba is wrapped, recording/concert basses, helicons, sousaphones are ALL tubas.
youtuuba 5 months ago
Wanna see playing tuba /watch?v=C5jPawsJDsI&feature=related
VladiMix11 6 months ago
This is a comedy sketch, right?
MrNunivak 8 months ago 3
That's not a fucking tuba.
divinegod102 8 months ago
Best advice do not watch any more of Mr. Williams he is not good. There should be a method book in your band library. But your easiest open natural should be a Bb the valve will then allow you change the pitch by a half tone a tone and a tone and half this combined with different lip positions allow a full chromatic scale
sousaphone68 9 months ago
ummm, can somebody help me, I just switched from clarinet to sousa and i have no idea how to play. my section leader just gave me a horn today after school and showed me how to put it together...sorta...any advice
horsefan48 9 months ago
tuba and sousaphone are basically the same instruments, ive played both and the only difference i see is that one is more preferrable for marching while the other is more prefferable for concert band
1097atm 9 months ago
Probably a Jupiter
bodobird66 10 months ago
WOOO HOOO!! Boy did I learn a lot....why is it that all their videos are shot with mimes???? Do they have WMG protected music? Where do I send a pair of balls to so that they speak up?
UpcomingJedi 11 months ago
Wow, you guys at Expert Village are so fucking stupid. THAT IS NOT A FUCKING TUBA! I've seen one many times before in person, and I can assure you that the bell faces UPWARDS, not at a 45 degree angle facing forwards. And that "tuba" you so call you're holding looks WAY too wide to even be a B flat tuba.
JoyoPrower 1 year ago
Also the sousaphone was named after John Philip Sousa ( aka the march king ) but I don't think he actually designed it.
cmderbly95 1 year ago
Yah I can see why people think the tuba in the vid is not it must be a much older tubal by the looks modern day tubas have upward facing bells and there are the jr. High version that is a 3/4 tuba and only has 3 valves and a high school whole tuba that may have rotory or piston valves and generally has 4 valves but there are others with thumb triggers and up to 6 valves. The Sousophone is a marching tuba respectively it has a smaller bore than a whole tuba and has it's forward facing bell with
cmderbly95 1 year ago
This is a Tuba. Or atleast it's most commonly known and easyer name is. It is used to play low notes going far down the music scale. It is the most common form of a tuba, and is now souly used for concert preformances.
A Sousaphone is the name for the marching version of it. It was made by a man who thought that the tuba wasnt very easy for marching preformances, so he designed this to make playing the tuba while marching easyer.
Alxzanderthegreat 1 year ago
:o
Missnermusiker93 1 year ago
thats to big to be a tuba
TWINBOYZ43 1 year ago
that thing is huge
TWINBOYZ43 1 year ago
Dude FAKE. I seen a bunch of tubas and the bell is NOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT that way.
SuperUTBER 1 year ago
That is one massive tuba. What would that be 6/4 tuba? (or does that only apply in marching?)
Boenerst668 1 year ago
@williamparlier If you actually listened to him he said this tuba in particular not all tubas
flamepheneix 1 year ago
troll momennnt!
babidipu 1 year ago
Im in band, thats way to big to be a tuba
CpipNerf 1 year ago
Why does your tuba have a sousaphone bell?
crossfirexiv 1 year ago
"This is a tuba!" No shit dipshit. And tubas can have four vaulves! Thank you creepy guy!
walkermorgan95 1 year ago 4
holy shit tuba scared the crap out of me and why do people say susaphone I bigger than tuba
TheAdam1409 1 year ago
are you sure thats a tuba?
cuz ive seen alot of tubas and that sure doesnt look like one
XxTorrentWolfxX 1 year ago 2
@XxTorrentWolfxX it's really a 20j but it's a type of tuba they are very rare and expensive
elevatorfreak112 1 year ago
You people are clueless...I've played various tubas and sousaphone for over 30 years and this is definitely a tuba. They come in all sizes from 5/4 to 3/4 scale with anywhere from 2 pistons (core bands) to 5 pistons (compensating) to 3 rotors to 5 and sometimes, but rarely, 6 rotors. Some have attached bells and others like this 5/4 recording tuba have detachable bells that are directional for primarily recording in the studio.
stonepolismusic 1 year ago
@stonepolismusic Also being as small as 1/2 size and up to 6/4 size, with combinations of rotors and valves, in different pitches (F, Eb, CC). If everyone wants to get super technical you're forgetting to call it a contrabass tuba. There, I just whipped out my dick into the pissing contest. Who cares what it's called.
Zombbg4 1 year ago
@Zombbg4 Yep...your right! Left out the 6/4 and less common sizes, plus the multitude of piston/rotor combinations as these are typically an oddity/rarity - didn't want to cloud an already murky puddle of pee!
stonepolismusic 1 year ago
thats definetly close to a tuba than a sousaphone, however honestly its more like a gargatuan marching baritone. In fact it could be a marching tuba ( still not a sousaphone) if not for its tremendous size. The bell on that tube sticks out, like a sousaphone bell, which is highly irregular, its also by far the largest tuba I have ever seen, and that is by far the largest bell on a concert( again if it is a concert) tuba that i have ever seen.
mjay1693 1 year ago
a real tuber for high school is 4 values but for college 5 is a real tuber.
MrSharpiefine 2 years ago 3
a real tuba has 4 valves
1CouldaHadaV8 2 years ago
@1CouldaHadaV8 FAIL. tubas can have 3 valves too
MrKomKast 2 years ago
@1CouldaHadaV8 Tubas have 3 to 5 valves commonly, some have more. Drum & Bugle Corps style Contrabasses used to only have 2 valves!
domitype 1 year ago 2
A sousaphone is a form of tuba, it is a more specific form of helicon. any form of tuba wrapped for marching
marchingeagle987 2 years ago
this guy is boring and if anyones wanting to learn from this guy they will probably fall asleep........ HE NEEDS TO GET LAID
A7XROCKER101752001 2 years ago 2
you are holding a concert tuba...a sousaphone IS a tuba but it's better for marching purposes...its like saying a tenor sax isnt a saxaphone
stabbyman3 2 years ago 31
BLOW 20J!!!!!!!
coreydoublebassist 2 years ago
tuba and sousaphone have basically the same sound depending on wat kind of tuba your playing sousaphone can have a better sound contra tuba's sound great. sousaphones sound good too if in the right hands if u hav a person who doesn't kno how to move with one on then the sound gets pretty bad.
falloutboy7778 2 years ago
I disagree. Sousaphones are specifically designed for elementary musicians, and I've yet to find one that I've actually liked. Professionals aren't in marching band. And, as such, you'll never find a "professional" sousaphone. You'll just find affordable ones where half the notes are out of tune.
tubageek1 2 years ago
actually, tubas and sousaphones do have about 100% the same sound, and sousaphones are very acurate, and you may think they're more affordable but in reality if you look for a tuba and sousaphone they will be around the same price range if they are of the same brand
horayforjoe 2 years ago
Sure, they're not affordable compared to student models, but I've yet to find a sousaphone that has the quality of a Meinl Weston Fafner. It's like saying a french horn and mellophone are the same. They're similar in tone and playability, but the purpose is almost fundamentally different. Concert horns are designed for flexibility and agility, and sousaphones revolve quite a bit around volume.
tubageek1 2 years ago
And, while, yes, the same type of sound can be obtained from both, only the really superb marching ensembles will ask for something other than a loud, blatty tuba sound which, while often played with correct technique, is just quite different from the purpose of a solid symphonic horn. When I play sousaphone, I get a significant hit in my range (I lose about half an octave) and playing fast passages is like trying to make a U-turn on a two lane road with a semi.
tubageek1 2 years ago
of course sousaphones have a much higher volume capability because for marching, the volume needs to be projected and increased to be heard. in my school there are 225 students in the marching band, and only 7 of them are tuba/sousaphone players, without the added volume capabilities of sousaphones, it would be almost impossible to get our sound out to the audience over the 23 trombones or our army of trumpets
horayforjoe 2 years ago 2
Dear boy, professionals are in marching bands. Just look at the United States armed forces bands. most of the time they use sousaphones , some times they will use contrabasses which are shoulder marching tubas
marchingeagle987 2 years ago
and solid metal sousas are "professional" sousas
marchingeagle987 2 years ago
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domitype 1 year ago
it is too heavy for you
slartibartphast 3 years ago
But he's wrong
bernardhumperdink 3 years ago 3
NO, THAT IS NOT A TUBA. THAT IS A RECORDING BASS. Get an Expert who knows what they are talking about.
bernardhumperdink 3 years ago 44
whats a recording bass?
ANash9 3 years ago
A recording bass is a TYPE of Tuba which is used for recording, it is still in the family of bass brass instruments, but it is not a true Tuba :)
Lordricky4 2 years ago
@bernardhumperdink isnt it just a 6/4?
Jasonmzak 1 year ago
@bernardhumperdink a recording bass is just a name given to a TUBA with the huge front bell. it's still a tuba, and a recording bass.
williebeaty 10 months ago
@bernardhumperdink OK, i've spent about 30 mins researching a "recording bass" and I cannot find such a thing existing, does it have some alias?
PureZOOKS 10 months ago
@PureZOOKS recording tuba or recording bass tuba's are commonly called basses in scores so can be referred to as the bass part but a concert tuba has the bell pointing up recording tuba's have the bell facing outward so it projects the sound towards the microphone or audience more.
falloutboy7778 9 months ago
@bernardhumperdink I'd be with you, but you knew what you were getting into when you came to an--and I use this term with as much irony and disdain as I can muster--"Expert" Village.
HuggumsMcgehee 3 months ago
that tuba has a really big bell most tubas ive ever seen the bell are smaller and point upwards instead of forward. this tuba looks like it is made for marching LIKE a sousaphone.
larrynono 3 years ago
it was made that way because it is a branch of tuba called a recording bass- back in the day when microphones were bad, they would have bells like that so it was easier to record, hence the name "recording bass"
starofthewesttuba 2 years ago
Conn 20J
danitz56 3 years ago