@SirTobbii Exploiting what the game gives you. That's like saying saving before doing something and reloading when it doesn't go your way is abusing the saves.
@DeathnoteBB No, because saving is an intended feature. A glitch that offers you infinite items to sell because of a programming miss is not intended, that is the same as hacking, breaking the game for profit. It's bound to be fixed by the December Patch though. Think of it as the finishing game in 20 minutes glitch in vanilla Oblivion, is that a legitimate way to finish the game? You don't have to beat any Oblivion Gates or fight any enemies outside the tutorial, but you still beat it.
@SirTobbii It depends on your character. With a character like a Thief that absolutely sucks at close combat it might as well be. With one that's perfectly fine at going through a bunch of portals and not dying hundreds of times it's not as much.
@DeathnoteBB So if you finish the game by doing literally nothing, it's the same because your character is a different class? No-no, I've finished Oblivion with pretty much every class you can play, the game levels with you for that very reason, to be optimized for whatever you played.
@SirTobbii It's not optimized, it's biased for characters that can take a hit. If you have a character with no defense or offense skills as it levels up it'll be too weak in combat to be much good.
@DeathnoteBB Even if it's difficult, that doesn't justify the idea of just glitching to the finish line having to do nothing. It's cheating, plain and simple.
Cool glitch but yeah I won't use it. Abusing glitches for profit is cheating.
emhean 3 months ago
@emhean I absolutely agree, which is why I reloaded an old savefile immediatly after this video.
SirTobbii 3 months ago
@emhean How? It's in the game, and part of the game. Just not intended. Would you rather me use a hack?
DeathnoteBB 3 months ago
@DeathnoteBB This is basically the same as hacking, it's an exploit.
SirTobbii 3 months ago
@SirTobbii Exploiting what the game gives you. That's like saying saving before doing something and reloading when it doesn't go your way is abusing the saves.
DeathnoteBB 3 months ago
@DeathnoteBB No, because saving is an intended feature. A glitch that offers you infinite items to sell because of a programming miss is not intended, that is the same as hacking, breaking the game for profit. It's bound to be fixed by the December Patch though. Think of it as the finishing game in 20 minutes glitch in vanilla Oblivion, is that a legitimate way to finish the game? You don't have to beat any Oblivion Gates or fight any enemies outside the tutorial, but you still beat it.
SirTobbii 3 months ago
@SirTobbii It depends on your character. With a character like a Thief that absolutely sucks at close combat it might as well be. With one that's perfectly fine at going through a bunch of portals and not dying hundreds of times it's not as much.
DeathnoteBB 3 months ago
@DeathnoteBB So if you finish the game by doing literally nothing, it's the same because your character is a different class? No-no, I've finished Oblivion with pretty much every class you can play, the game levels with you for that very reason, to be optimized for whatever you played.
SirTobbii 3 months ago
@SirTobbii It's not optimized, it's biased for characters that can take a hit. If you have a character with no defense or offense skills as it levels up it'll be too weak in combat to be much good.
DeathnoteBB 3 months ago
@DeathnoteBB I had a character who did not have any major skills in either offensive skills or defensive skills, and I did just fine.
SirTobbii 3 months ago
@SirTobbii even during main quests, or cramped dungeons filled with enemies? I must be missing something then because that sounds hard.
DeathnoteBB 3 months ago
@SirTobbii not that I'm trying to be rude or anything, it just sounds diffucult.
DeathnoteBB 3 months ago
@DeathnoteBB Even if it's difficult, that doesn't justify the idea of just glitching to the finish line having to do nothing. It's cheating, plain and simple.
SirTobbii 3 months ago