Perfect Blue / Requiem For A Dream Bath Scene Comparison

[bin1127]

From watching the side-by-side comparison I can say this: The animation quality is amazing.

[duckflorist]

Even more so after watching both kon is further along. Even after death. He skips the lesser thoughts and focuses on the epiphany.

What he has done makes it easy to understand blackswan. Perfect blue is a thought or two beyond Such comprehension.

[duckflorist]

It still shows me a medium that's ten years ahead of another.

[bloodmuch]

Dude, it's kinda still ripping off Perfect Blue, he just kinda paid for the right to do it. I mean, you can't say that he didn't copy the exact same scene...

[sayonarasuicide]

So we all have influences that's how the world works. And he bought the movie to use just one scene so he is truly committed into his work. I don't mind as long as you give credit to the original source.

[Zerudah]

@sayonarasuicide Too bad he didn't give credit on Swan...

[SpeakSoftly117]

Everyone is inspired by works they have seen and Aronofsky is not different, he bought the rights for Perfect Blue to be able to do this scene which is just a complement to Kon Satoshi. Not really hard for him to do since his father was so rich and so was he, but he still gave credit to Kon. Secondly if you want to talk about people ripping off other movies or anime just look at any big named director. He ripped off of someone along the way, George Lucas, Quentin Tarantino and many more.

[gghice1]

I don't remember that moment in the film. Is that a deleted scene or something?

[theDoomguy2011]

I think that Darren Aronofsky should try doing a full remake of Perfect Blue.

[BalmungSama0]

@theDoomguy2011 I don't think so. Kon did it great. Leave it be. Besides, can you really picture those amazing visuals of the pop-star Mima hopping along weightlessly working in live-action?

[tbirdit086]

HOLY SHIT!

[LikaLaruku]

Perfect Blue is the anime I lend to anyone who tells me cartoons are for kids. I also give it to like Naruto fans & tell them "this is REAL anime."

[TheMarkSasuke64]

@LikaLaruku I love how you implying that Naruto fans don't watch Kon's work. It's possible to watch campy anime and great anime at the same time, bubba.

[Asylum86]

Mind = blown! Seen both, absolutely LOVED both!

[ThoughtDivisionMedia]

lost so much respect for aronofsky. could he at least have changed 1 shot? slightly?

[BalmungSama0]

@ThoughtDivisionMedia He acquired the rights to remake Perfect Blue just so he could use this one scene. He fully acknowledges Kon's work as the true source of this scene.

[ideoteqa]

connelly is so hot.... jesus, aronofsky paid copyrights for the scene, chill out fanboys

[GabeHellFire]

Wow, u r so original u artsy douche!

[hugovedovato]

Man, FUCK ARONOFSKY! HE SHOULD AT LEAST ACKNOLEDGE THAT!!!

[Lolligaggerton]

@hugovedovato Darren Aronofsky did acknowledge that he based this scene off of Perfect Blue, he even bought remake rights for the entire film to just shoot this one scene since he thought it was so perfect. He did nothing wrong, sometimes art is so perfect in one state that you must copy it, which is fine, you must do it with respect though, which was what was done here.

[hugovedovato]

@Lolligaggerton I understand, but then he did the entire Black Swan without acknowleding it is exactly the same plot of PB. And as far as the buying the rights, he hasn't state it himself, it's sth rumored. When asked if BS was based on PB, he only said that they might have their similarities, but the first wasn't an inspiration for the latter. Even when a mobie is made from rights-bought material, the director will often - if not always - credit the creator of the original story. He did not.

[BalmungSama0]

@hugovedovato Black Swan clearly drew inspiration from Perfect Blue, but the two are quite different in their approach of the subject, and the paths the characters take.

[Toshidetoshi]

@hugovedovato You're kidding ?! Exactly the same plot ! The only similarity I can see is that both leads project fantasies and have a dark side.

[GasmaskAvenger]

@hugovedovato Black Swan and Perfect Blue are so wildly different that any notion of Swan being a rip-off of Blue is purely superficial at best and absurd observatory paranoia at worst.

[Zerudah]

@hugovedovato "Even when a mobie is made from rights-bought material, the director will often - if not always - credit the creator of the original story." That almost never happens, 'cus they can get sued. IANAL. When they remade the Ring, for example, they credited Koji Suzuki. But no one really knows the details about the contract Aronofsky and Kon signed, other than their lawyers, so...

[hugovedovato]

@Zerudah I understand what you said, and it's possible it went like that, but: 1) if he bought the rights, why not have the right to say he did so? How could he get sued over that? IANAL either, though...

[Zerudah]

@hugovedovato Well, he'd be taking credit for someone's work...

[Pato88888]

aronofsky also used the talking photos scene in perfect blue for the talking portraits scene in black swan

[GasmaskAvenger]

@Pato88888 except in that case, the context of that is completely different in both cases.

in Swan, it's a part of Nina's freakout about 15-20 minutes near the end and happens when she returns home to her now estranged mother.

in Blue, it's part of a creepier sequence of Mi-Mania doing one of the Mima's Home blogs and her has no fuckin' problem imagining the Mima photos talking in his own personal whacked out mental wonderland from hell.

[aquapendulum]

0:11 Subtle facial movement like she's about to cry, depicting frustration

0:38 Anybody seeing any facial changes? Anyone? No? The scene's been going on for 10 seconds since it cut to her face.

0:42 Oh, there we go, she was like a freaking rock before screaming. Was Jennifer Connelly told not to show any frustration even though she just gave a blowjob to get some drug?

[HotdogsRuleForever]

Aronofsky got permission from the creators of perfect blue to use this scene in requiem and swan. Swan doesn't include the scream underwater. The permission also included the scene where Nina's paintings are talking (alike Me-Mania's stalking cave).

[Foxhat134]

@HotdogsRuleForever actually aronofsky bought the american rights to the film just so he could do this one scene and draw inspiration from another scene in the film, talk about determination

[TheNEWfilmfanatic99]

Also in Black Swan when you see the mother's paintings talk, it's exactly like the talking pictures in Mr. Memania's room

[headphonic8]

It seems to be an homage to a great movie.

[KINKYmustache]

Wow, so it's the first time something made by americans is similar to something made by Japanese, and not the other way around and all of a sudden all weaboos start a shitstorm. Requiem for a Dream is a masterpiece, deal with it.

[Zerudah]

@KINKYmustache Well, it's *not* the first time. [See the Matrix and the Lion King.] And if it's such a masterpiece, why did Darren need to go to Japan to use someone else's scene for it?

[Mattjblythe111]

@Zerudah Sorry, can't be arsed to follow the comment trail, but it's Satoshi who licensed 'Requiem;' not the other way around.

[Zerudah]

@Mattjblythe111 Not sure how that makes sense, since PB predated Requiem...

[jalusbrian]

@Mattjblythe111 LLO where do u get that idea! Perfect Blue 1997, Requiem for a Dream,,,2000!!!!!!!

[JackInTheBox1616]

wow ppl are freaking idiots. Just because Darren Aronofsky bought the rights to use that one scene everyone hates him for being a "copier". He obviously admired the scene and if anything y'all should be happy that great work was appreciated to be recreated. If he was a copier and disrespectful he would have just taken to scene without buying the rights. grow up. its pathetic

[Zerudah]

@JackInTheBox1616 Except he's making millions of bucks on Swan, while Kon's family has to fucking practically give away Perfect Blue in Japan, because of how niche he was in that country.

[Schniddo]

@JackInTheBox1616 Agreed, strictly speaking the whole idea of buying rights to use a scene in this way is silly... he was obviously paying a tribute. I wonder how these same haters feel about sampling in music.

[Zerudah]

@Schniddo Um, people *do* get sued for sampling without authorization. And if it was a tribute, then why hasn't Darren said so recently? Same bullshit argument they've been using for Quentin until the guy started doing official remakes.

[Schniddo]

@Zerudah Sure they do, all I'm saying is ethically I don't see a problem with that.

[sugahrockz]

@Zerudah I never seen Requiem for a dream, but I read somewhere That he bought the rights for "Perfect Blue" just for this scene.

[SOOLTV]

Perfect Blue, Perfect Blue, Perfect Blue. MY GOD PERFECT BLUE. <3

[majinshenmue]

how is this a remake? isn't this EXACTLY how it happened in the film?

[SOOLTV]

@majinshenmue Just because she doesn't scream 'bastards' doesn't mean the whole exact scene was used. Regardless if the director had brought the rights for just that scene. It's actually identical.

[ivanclaysburgh]

Wow... Darren Aronofsky is a fucking copier.

[gulagga371]

@ivanclaysburgh Read more, he bought the rights from the creators of Perfect Blue, go to IMDb or Wiki , retard

And he never Barged about it ether.

[jedichris5]

He didn't rip off Perfect Blue, folks. He actually bought the rights to the film just so he could re-create this scene.

[khosrow]

@jedichris5 yeah but he denies even that perfect blue was a inspiration for black swan.

[hugovedovato]

@jedichris5 there is no proof he even bought the rights, this is hearsay. and he himself never acknowledged the influence, going as far as to say : "no, they are completely unrelated"

[Zerudah]

@hugovedovato There's proof that he at least visited Japan, since Kon blogged about it.

[parasiteve]

@jedichris5 re-create hahaha bullshit, this is the perfect excuse for the lack of imagination and creativity, he's just a fucking copycat. He rips of frame by frame alots of sequences of perfect blue it requiem for a dream, and for sure he rip off the argument of perfect blue in black swan, he may called "perfect blue ballet version"

[massivecrown]

@parasiteve He didn't rip anyone off my friend. Darren was originally a huge fan of Satoshi's work in the past. Same thing with Nolan (Paprika/Inception). Their not simulating his achievements. It's simply just a respectful tribute to their early influence. Just like what Thomas Anderson did with Martin Scorsese. And what Spielberg did with Kubrick. And what David Lynch did with Salvador Dali etc. etc. etc....Without inspirations, where would the magic of excellent film-making be?

[Zerudah]

@massivecrown The Nolan thing's been debunked. But I do believe his brother is the anime fan in the family. As for Darren, if he's such a fan, why did he not give PB its due when the Kon family needed it most?

[massivecrown]

@parasiteve And Black Swan was just a foreshadow of Perfect Blue with a dash of Darren's dark stroytelling. He originally had it planned for the early 90's...But Portman was caught in the knot with her on-going schedule. So he dropped all plans for shooting, up until 2010. If you ask me I thought it was a brilliant movie. As a matter of fact, Perfect Blue didn't even pop through my mind while watching the first half. I was just so hooked man.

[Zerudah]

@massivecrown Actually, he planned it for the early 2000s when he got the remake rights to PB.

[dzpixel]

aronovski i don't like you anymore, i love satoshi kon rip

[Karami]

lol it was ripped off

[alexoalez]

aronofsky tried to film a live-action remake of perfect blue, or at least that was his first approach before engaging to making requiem for a dream,, actually perfect blue quite drove aronofsky when writing the script and making the film thereof, as some kind of "tribute" to the movie which his stemmed from he included the bath tub scene, and yeah the black swan is the ultimate approach on perfect blue, requiem for a dream, quite overrated; the black swan, close to master-work a film

[zmario1994]

Epic scene for two perfect movies. 'Nuff said

[zmdiscovery]

i looooove requiem for a dream. never seen perfect blue though. the bath scene in requiem left such a haunting impression on me

[MalonsMilk]

requiem for a dream is better just because she is so anguished she doesnt have the words there. Both are good though as the scene wouldnt be there if it wasnt for Blue.

[AvatarYoda]

I just saw Requiem and knew that this shot looked familiar.

[McRaims]

is the fucking same!!

[a17morseth]

@McRaims it's because the director of "requiem for a dream" darren aronofsky bought the scene from perfect blue precisely for this movie. that's why they are the same :)

[sampaio]

@a17morseth

No they are the same because he did it the same. He just coppied Perfect Blue , like he did with his new movie.

And to prevent any lawsuit he bought the right of the movie.

[khosrow]

also compare lain and pi. but the strange ting is that both where produced at the same time.

[ScaryManiac]

The overhead shot of Nina in the bathtub is an exact replica of a shot in the Japanese anime thriller Perfect Blue (1998). Prior to Requiem for a Dream (2000), Darren Aronofsky bought the remake rights to the film just to use that one sequence.

[anubis846]

WOW

[treemonster123]

i think that black swan and perfect blue have simple similarities about their fundamental plot lines but i dont think that they would bare any resemblance to any ordinairy viewer.

[GayGeisha]

Two utterly perfect films.

[kevonmartini10]

Black Swan borrows so heavily from so many movies.

[HGLatinBoy]

I saw Perfect Blue before seeing Black Swan and at no point did Black Swan remind me of Perfect Blue. I don't consider the films to be similar at all.

[strtthshw]

@HGLatinBoy Same here :/ I specifically watched PB before BS just to make comparisons, but there weren't any. Some of the themes were the same, but meh.

[kiaseli]

To say that Black Swan has no humanity is just ridiculous. Black Swan really makes you feel for the Nina character, especially if you can relate to how controlled she has to live her life and the pressures that are put upon her. It's one thing to be a PB fan, it's another thing to be unable to recognize a film inspired by it on its own merits.

[Wh0rse]

Aronofsky bought the rights to Perfect Blue

[cambaprecoz]

@Wh0rse

He really cared about it, then.

I think he should oversee everything Satoshi Kon related.

[bpophantom]

The wrestler was a good movie but black swan is just an exploitation film with no real thought or humanity when compared to perfect blue. PB is truly about identity and finding who you are when you step away from the people who force and connive you into doing things. I think he bought the rights to PB mainly cuz of his newest film not really for requiem.

[videosarefun69]

@bpophantom You are simply ignorant or uninformed then. Arronofsky has acknowledged similarities between Perfect Blue and Black Swan. He didn't buy the rights to the movie, he simply bought the right to remake this one scene. He met with Satoshi Kon about this. And, while Perfect Blue and Black Swan have a similar style they are VERY different. Perfect Blue deals with issues of fame while Black Swan is more about artistic performance.

[bpophantom]

@videosarefun69 Whether or not he bought the whole movie rights or just one scene doesn't take away from the fact that PB (more than a couple of similarities) inspired Black Swan ALOT. Black Swan isn't a bad movie but when people hype up the film to be deeper than what it is that's disturbing and it's def. not as emotional or striking as Perfect Blue. And the hype around Natalie's performance is sad. And issues with fame and artistic performance shouldn't be what makes the 2 films different.

[videosarefun69]

@bpophantom Okay lets calm down now. Not going to argue with you but he bought the rights for Requiem not Black Swan. He acknowledged the similarities but he insists it was not an influence.

[bpophantom]

@videosarefun69 I was calm while I was typing and I didn't feel an argument. I'm just saying that even though he insists it's wasn't an influence it was very obvious what was there.

[deadlyponiezzzz]

Harry was screaming because when he closed his eyes he saw chuck norris's face :)

[hankwest988]

Wait why was she screaming underwater

[DomIstKrieg]

The RFAD sequence seemed too melodramatic and forced with the music. Plus, i know its animation but the ever so subtle facial movements in Perfect Blue add a little intensity. Like she is really cracking up. RFAD is just some woman screaming in a bath.

[sibowittz6]

I like PB, but RFAD was better!

[bpophantom]

I really don't like that dramatic music building up in requiem it feels very weak imo compared to perfect blue which doesn't force anything.

[facepuncher456]

Whoa, 18,000 views!

[WDPizzle]

And I love how Aronofsky refuses to give influence from Satoshi Kon. Pay some respect towards anime. Its at scenes like these that make Hollywood sick.

[icybergie]

@WDPizzle He bought the whole remake rights just to have this one scene in Requiem.

[ckyvick666]

@WDPizzle He refuses to give influence from Kon? Really? That's why he paid for the rights to Perfect Blue so he could film this scene?

[Zerudah]

@ckyvick666 He refuses to give credit now. I heard he did on the Requiem commentary, though.

[Conchobhar]

Requiem for a scream.

Why not at least promote Perfect Blue in the English-speaking world at the same time? Western directors have presented foreign movies before, like Tarantino with Hero.

[RashHunt]

Two masterworks.

[taqu]

I love both movies, but Satoshi Kon will always be the best. RIP.

[TheGoodGuysWearBlack]

Satoshi Kon died today. RIP. The master will be missed. :(

[SocialButterflyxx]

naw, requiem for a dream, ALL the way.

[Zerudah]

Can't wait for the PB/Black Swan/Princess Tutu mash-up. 

[eahamilt]

@Zerudah I'm glad that there are two of us. :)

[SithSymbiosis]

Need to see Perfect Blue. Seen Requiem. Love the replication. The Requiem one was just...CREEPY. It's like Marion lost everything (well she did just give a pimp a blowjob for drugs).

[michaeljacksonyall]

@SithSymbiosis

You need to see Perfect Blue as soon as possible. They're different movies sort of (since Requiem is about people losing their dreams from drugs, and Perfect Blue is about stalkers, killers, delusions, and losing your mind to show business), but they are both disturbing. Perfect Blue is amazing.

[RedMoonX42]

god I love this!

[VikkyRz]

The director of Requiem For A Dream bought the right of remake of Perfect Blue just because of that scene

[StrugglingActorBlog]

Both perfect films

[weedaol]

esa pelicula tiene una direccion arrechisima, every escene is the shit man and i didnt know bout the perfect blue recreation scene, i read he actually owns the copyrights so he could do it exactly as the original dat is PB

[marknesium]

thanks for this comparison!

[fffreakhc]

When I saw Perfect Blue I immediately knew I saw the scene before...and there it is ;) Both movies are awesome

[latequilera22]

I love Perfect Blue.

[Pwnd80]

@latequilera22

Me too ^_^

[JordanMillward1]

Me too, awesome movie.

[deadlyponiezzzz]

@latequilera22 perverted weirdo...

[HowardFair]

I somehow saved his first feature for last, saw Perfect Blue last night and have now watched everything Satoshi Kon directed. I thought I had seen this scene before....

[yummymayo]

yep, darren bought the rights to perfect blue just for this shot.

[WLDFLD]

@yummymayo

this is the type of thing one would have hoped the uploader would put in the video description

[ravingrabidpugTICTAC]

perfect blue is better

[deadlyponiezzzz]

@ravingrabidpugTICTAC Pervert...

[WarriorPublic]

@ravingrabidpugTICTAC are you nuts?

[ravingrabidpugTICTAC]

@WarriorPublic how perfect blue is a masterpiece of film making anybody who doesn't watch it because it is anime is an idiot .

[smokethevidence]

@ravingrabidpugTICTAC Hey, mind giving me a short list of anime films that aren't about robot cults? Googling elsewhere, too, but I got the impression that you know your shit so I figured I'd ask.

[JackInTheBox1616]

@ravingrabidpugTICTAC no its not. dont be rediculous

[GerudoThief]

YESSSSS!!!11!!!! I noticed this immediately when watching Perfect Blue and I'm so glad this video is on here to show me exactly how similar they are! COOL! SUPER!