everywhere there is a socialist nation, there is a failure to meet the needs of the poeople of that nation - suck on Scandinavia's (and indeed many parts of europe's) massive dangling balls!
there is a mis-conception that anything socialist is actually communism - in fact, it is easy for there to be financial incentives across a socialist society if you build it right. it is no crime for a government to take control or partial control of sectors which the free market can't efficiently operate.
"....This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use....and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression."
William Bradford from "Of Plymouth Plantation" 1623
"All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery....the Governor (with the advice of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves; in all other things to go on in the general way as before....."
while this is a somewhat valid point, capitalism does have it's advantage on a national scale. but, historically, capitalism has never solved it's crises. capitalist countries simply push their problems around the world geographically, so on a global scale, capitalism is showing the same problems (poverty and debt) that some see as a result of laziness and others see as a result of an unbalanced market. bottom line is, social systems are absolutely necessary to maintain a stable global economy.
@yosbertt Do you actually think we have Capitalism? When there are few rich and many poor, that is not capitalist, because you are missing one factor: MIDDLE CLASS. In order for any nation to be a nation, it needs to have rich and poor, or all poor. But laissez faire capitalist states have middle classes, mostly people with good jobs or small businesses. A truly genuine society. When there are few rich and many poor, it is caused by corp. inflation and overproduction and underconsumption.
The scientific method states that an experiment must be repeatable with consistant results. Therefore if the student does the experiment once it does not prove that capitalism is better than socialism. He must do the experiment a plethora of times and find that an overwhelming number of times capitalism wins out to be even consider as a legitimate evidence to say capitalism is better than socialism.
TO ALL SOCIALIST COMRADES, you are the people that believe not only in socialism. but in mankind, its people like you that will bring the world to a new age of peace and prosperity , each day more and more people realize that the we are working to make the rich even richer that many are working for the few.96% of the wealth of the world is owned by 1% of the people, just imagine if they gave up just half of their wealth, poverty would cease to exist.
if the subjects had banks that they could put their candy in and recieve intrest for the next day, some of them would need to do fuck all every day to get candy (anallargy for money/food to survive) just like rich capitalists, whereas the poor would have to work hard every day and sometimes even take out a loan for the days they didnt work and become even poorer. Another fault with the experiment: candy is a treat, whereas you need money to buy food to survive
@etheain Meanwhile, in the REAL world, Obama isn't even a liberal. He's nowhere vaguely CLOSE to socialist. But, then, from Reagan, the single worst president in United States history, to this present day LYING is the only way the rancid evil of capitalism can be defended.
Actually capitalism failed compleatly which is why most developed countries today have things like free health care. Taxes, governments, unions, etc. All socialist ideas. So quit bitching about how bad socialism is.
@gulbirk because of libs forcing socialist ideas, thats why america is in a depression right now. also capitalism has not failed completely. also you are a fag.
@smallfrye182 No its not. The reason for that is because greedy people will rather have their factories in China and India where they can use workers as slaves because thats allot cheaper then paying actuall humans to do the job. And you want to follow them. Yei, lets just all be slaves, and work 10 hour days for something less then 1/10 of the current minimum wage (probably lower) and never be able to get anywhere else in life, because we dont have money for anything. Sounds great, FUCK YOU.
You know even if you are not, and even if you are just the average conservative guy who didnt finish university, it surprises me how when conservatives are upset they call people names instead of arguing. ""Oh, we hate obama, lets call him a socialist"" Heck, the left is better at critisising the left then the right is.
...and alot of revolutionaries have written very thorough books explaining exactly how and why the revolution in i.e Russia degenerated, and why the bureaucratically managed command economy collapsed. I'd recommend Alan Woods, i.e.
The collapse itself, was even foreseed by Trotsky in "Revolution Betrayed" which explained the deformed nature of the USSR. It's not sufficient just to point at the overall outcome of *formally* socialist countries. Especially not in the mid of a capitalist crisis.
It is not Captialism vs. Socialism. Almost all successful nations are capitalist-socialist hybrids. (Including the U.S.)
It is not about which one we pick, it is about where we strike the balance. If you keep track of U.S history before and after the great depression, we have already found the most functional economic model.
The model is capitalism at core, but where the free market fails, the government provides. A healthy dose of socialism helps capitalism function properly.
Productivity? The human nature is to be competitive when there is a reward involved. Now imagine if you change the reward, let's say instead of candy subjects get a limited amount of oxygen. Let's say if they all work together, anybody to its ability, they get enough oxygen for all of them to survive(Socialism). But if they compete for oxygen, the weak will die, plus it is almost certain that the weak will try to kill stronger competitors to survive. Everyone is given a gun too. Not possible?
@victorydayof91945 Why are you sorry? I am not sure if you got my point. I am not against communism, in fact I think if it worked it would have been great. But looking from a scientific point of view achieving results with communism is only possible in two ways, 1. Change the human nature(remove competitiveness from every individuals behavior) 2. Educate the young to understand the importance and the reason why the whole world should work as a team to eliminate poverty.( Not yet achievable)
"You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright. But we'll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won't have to fight you; we'll so weaken your economy until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands."
History proves capitalism is more productive than socialism. And those who call capitalism a selfish system need to realize there is nothing genuine about forcing people to pay for others. In a capitalist system we have the right to choose to be selfless and helpful. Besides, most socialists who argue capitalism is selfish would rather be on the receiving end of the help, not the ones offering the help.
Of course the system in the US is everybody does does pushups and the Obama gives the candy to the unions and "green jobs" and banks that donated money to his campaign and the people never see it again
The difference between socialism, communism and capitalism is basically… what flavor of monetary system do you like? The impacting similarities between all of them are undeniable. One similarity is this idea is based off the notion that we have unlimited resources, this of course is a fallacy. The other similarity is the product needs to be inefficient for it to make a profit in these systems. As far as motivation is concerned look up RSA animate the surprising truth about what motivates us.
Not true. I will say three things to refute this entire argument against collectivism: Commune de Paris, Spanish Revolution, Utopian American Settlers. /end
Err dude, the candies are supposed to be 'limited', that is the basic rule of economics - resources are SCARCE. So the correct experiment would be that all 15 candies go to the person or two persons who are the most fit, while the others starve to death because they weren't phsyically fit. That is what capitalism leads too.
whats wrong with Socialism?.. Here in Denmark you can still get rich of your own ideas over night? just like americans, what's your point? and here in denmark (and scandinavia) we have free universal helath care, and the right to a free education, and if you loos everything.. the state helps you with money, so you dont have to live on the street. i cant see that, that's a bad thing?? Yearh, we pay a high tax, but we get so much for it in the end.
@DPAMULTIMEDIA because if you want to act like a dumbass and do things you know full well are bad for you you should live on the street why should productive people have to take care of some useless parasite
@AynRandRevolution because we belive all people can be helped in some way, and we care about our fellow man.. and when we do this you dont see as manny poor people on the street.. and i see exsampels all the time from the U.S. were people lose everything because a family member get's cancer or somthing like that. Just because they could not aforrd the right insurance.. are they also useless parasite's??
@DPAMULTIMEDIA how can you ever judg a homeless person?! do you the your time, to ask them why they are on the street? why they dont have any friends or family who can take care of them?? No, you just pass them by while thinking '' What a bum..''
@AynRandRevolution How can you ever judg a homeless person?! do you the your time, to ask them why they are on the street? why they dont have any friends or family who can take care of them?? No, you just pass them by while thinking '' What a bum..''
@DPAMULTIMEDIA yeah you pay a high tax...and who does your hard earned money go to? lazy asses that dont work hard and didnt earn that money, do you really think its fair that a guy who works everyday of his life 9-5 works hard and makes and honest living gets his money STOLEN from him by the governemnt so that they can GIVE IT AWAY to someone doesnt do any of those things and just sits on their ass all day? is that fair?
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Well you're correct on what you just said it is unfair that people abuse social care systems to just sit about and do jack shit, but you have got to realize it does help a lot of people to get by with life. now the reason they sit about and to jack shit is due to capitalism in the first place as well as being governed and the way the schools teach kids. I'm not a socialist by the way I'm an anarchist where we believe we all need to work together as well as being equal =]
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx You have 40 million people in the USA without any health care that will get left to die.Why not pay a national insurance tax that covers everyone.
@infidel1978 I just peronally beleive that in a free country the working man should have the freedom to spend his money and put his money where/when he wants, I beleive its tyrannical to take peoples hard earned money through taxes and spending it on whatver and wherever they please without the persons consent. some people wil do better than others, it all depends on how hard you work. thats how it should be, the good hardworking, honest citizens should take priority over those who do nothing.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Yeah but there's going to be people who are out of work like they are in the UK but still looking for a job inthe mean time the state provides for them pays there housing rent and council tax till they find a job then when you do you pay it all back in tax.What's wrong with that ??
@infidel1978 because again the governemnt is taking peoples money and doing with it as they please, maybe all those other people paying taxes are barley keeping afloat themselves and need that extra money being taken through taxes, and I bet that if the gov hadnt taken so much money from them in the first place when they guy lost his job he would have enough extra money to stay afloat, so he didnt have use evrybody elses money.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx We pay a high tax, yes... but for that money we get repairs of road's, free health care, a free education, a social safty net that helpesyou, if you lose everything. a system that helps you get back on your feet, and money to take care of our disabled and mentally ill, people that otherwise would end up on the street, ass the do in the US, just because they could not afford the right insurance.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx You forget that people who sit's on their ass all day and dont do anything, often has a psychological problem that might make it so that they can't get their act together. we help these people, so they might some day agin contribute to society.
@DPAMULTIMEDIA it just seems like such a nanny state system, "oh we feel sorry for all these people, so its alright to screw over everyother hardworking person in this country (or the majority of the country) in order to accomadate this minority of the population that we feel sorry for" just seems very unfair, its like you wanna hold all those hardworking and productive citizens back just so all the other people dont feel bad, just not how life works.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx okay, i have about 2.581,74 dollars after tax, for my self, every month. my salary is not that high here. but with this pay i have 30972 dollars, after tax every year. before tax i have 3.872,61 USD a month, but for that money i have free health care, a free education, a social safty net that helpes you, if you lose everything. you think of it as they ''steal'' our money, i see it as a social safty net.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx and for your idea of a ''nanny state system'', no. we just take care of each other, and for that, scandinavia is one of the best places to live in the world.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Wauw.. the capitalist governments really got you good,. can not take you serious.. you seem to belive everything they tell you about the ''evil socialist states of Scandinavia''. Hehe.. omg.
@Badboysofdenmark yeah too bad the way things are ran right now in the west is not real capitalism, plutocrats just try to use the cover of capitalism to further their plutocracy, Ive never even heard the phrase ''evil socialist states of Scandinavia'' its not me talking for the government, its just the truth, you people have virtually no say in where the money the gov takes from you goes.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Ohh, now i see.. you preach the truth do ya? haha, that makes me laugh. you dont know how it's like to live in Scandinavia, Life here is just so much better then the US, look at how we live compared to the Americans, we have better Health care, better education, better drinking water, longer life expectancy, we even have better internet then you!.. im happy with the way things are :) i think you are just jealous, because you live in what is almost the 3 world.
@Badboysofdenmark Im not American, but lets get something staright here, you have FREE-ER health care than the US, but not BETTER, the UN studies say that the US has one of the higher qualities of health care in the developed world, most countries with public health care have a lower quality of care, the US is hardly what I would consider third world, their debt is huge, but then again somebody from Europe still shouldbt be talking...
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx spare me your capitalist attitud, it is simply selfish, everything is about '' me me me'' .. You can not look over your own nose. to help a poor person, is stupid in your eye's... ''capitalism makes you selfish and greedy,grab AS MUCH as you can,while socialism teaches you to be fair to everyone and it teaches you to take only as much as you need.''
@Badboysofdenmark I have no problem with helping less fortunate, Ive given money to homeless, Ive donated in food drives, etc. I just dont think you should HAVE to give up your money or posessions that you bought with your money, in a free country people should have the freedom of choosing where they want their hard earned money to go to.
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx typical capitalist... if you want to live in a country with free health care, and free education, you have to give somthing to the system, to get somthing back.
@Badboysofdenmark Socialism is a debunk ideology where the "hard working" lower-middle class get more wages for less work. If the industry leaders who constantly strive to revolutionise our everyday lives were forced to work for no more than a common labourer or academic failure, then you'd probably be happy that the workload of society is endured by others, and you still reap the rewards from their toils. Both systems are greedy, but Capitalism doesn't pretend to be a moral.
@Badboysofdenmark Socialism hasn't failed? Look at Soviet Russia, the economy stalled and people starved. The national SOCIAL german workers party (Nazi), state oppression, torture, genocide, compulsary labour for a pittance... it goes on.
Capitalism, most of Europe and America, free market, equal and independant opportunity, democracy, world's most powerful economies (just in a hard time due to people moaning whilst taking their rights for granted...)
@Atrollin1 A good deal of Europe is a mix of socialism and capitalism. Scandanavia is mostly socialist at least until recently, and to the extent they have adopted "capitalist" changes (ie. corporatist changes) their economies have been driven into the ground.
BTW, compare Soviet Russia to the rise of American capitalism. Soviet Russian saw the death of 10s of millions and the authoratarian takeover of land, etc. American capitalism was created on the deaths of millions of American Indians and the enslavement of an entire population.
@oldchicken2 China is becoming Capitalist, that's why so many entrepeneurs are springing up and driving the economy forward. Socialist China saw a pretty terrible quality of life for most of the population.
@Atrollin1 There were massive atrocities in "Communist" China. Once again, compare to the rise of American Capitalism: "a pretty terrible quality of life for most of the population."
@Atrollin1 China is adopting capitalist changes, which does not help your case much. China is still very much an authoritarian state, and if anything it's proving that, as long as significant portions of the population have enough products and a relative level of comfort, capitalism is perfectly adaptable to authoritarian systems.
@oldchicken2 How is that any different to adapting Capitalist ideas? China needs some aspects of Capitalism to support the economy it's building; without it, there won't be enough motivation to succeed.
@Atrollin1 It's different because most pro-capitalists claim that capitalism and free market forces lead to political freedom. I'm just saying that, in the case of China, that's not happening.
@oldchicken2 China has long been known for human rights abuses. Whilst here in the west we take it too far, they're in many cases the complete opposite. It's getting better, but that's just their culture. Maybe they don't see it quite as we do. Though free market is being implemented, and millionaires and privately owned projects are springing up like never before.
@Atrollin1 Idiot.. Soviet Russia had Communism! And for you to even compere The Nazi party a Hitlers germany with Socialism, Just proves, that you dont know what your talking about. What we have in Scandinavia is Socialism.. and we have had it since the 1940's. And oddly enough we here in Scandinavia , are some of the happiest people on the planet!
@Badboysofdenmark Communism is a form of socialism, actually, it's the epitemy of socialism, it has no classes, no private business and everybody is totally equal regardless of what work they do. Nazi party WAS socialist, (National SOCIAL German Workers Party). Socialism fails on its most fundamental level, and that is because it offers no rewards for the innovator. The workers get a better deal, but there's always the problem that they often don't even get employed.
@Atrollin1 So what you are saying is that we here in Scandinavia, are poor stupid ppl because we have socialism? Ohh i see.. you dont like that we have free health care and free education?.. and capitalism fails because it creates a giant ditch between rich and poor, and lets the majority of the ppl suffer because they can not afford the right insurance if they get sick, or loses a hous to a fire.. and i dont care if hitlers (National SOCIAL German Workers Party) was socialist.
@Badboysofdenmark it was not exactly what they end up with.. Hitler wanted to create a Nazi cult, based on he's faith, and only used polics to gain power. Idiot. Hitler was a psychopath!
@Badboysofdenmark Well actually you DO care if the Nazis were socialists because that seemed to make you pretty angry. I don't think you're idiots, but I do think Capitalism is a better system, because despite its flaws it still rewards the most inspired among us to do well. Capitalism has a huge rich-poor divide, and the poor spend most of their working hours moaning about it, but in socialist nations, mainly Soviet Russia, their poor make the Capitalist poor look rich.
Just because you see examples of 'inspired' people who do well, does not mean the majority of 'inspired' people achieve a comfortable financial life. The vast majority of 'inspired' people work and work and work and still do not achieve that. Why? Because there are not enough slots in the capitalist system for all of us to succeed! Because capitalism is based on limited quantity, thus limited successes!
@Badboysofdenmark the only problem with Capitalism is that people can't bear someone having more money than them. Someone on welfare benefits who plays games 8+ hours a day and even lives more comfortably than some hard working families can't take that someone who starts a successful business and endures all the risks that come with it will be driving a luxury car that their free welfare checks won't afford. That's the biggest cause for people to hate Capitalism.
@Atrollin1 Oh, my god no! the main reason that people hate Capitalism, is that it creates a giant ditch between rich and poor! And i dont think i can continue talking to you, when you keep compareing todays socialism with Hitlers Nazi parti. Just because they called themselves socialists, it does not meen that they were!! and the only reason Soviet Russia failed, was because they turned to communism.. Which is so extreme, you cant even call it socialism.
I like how you assume that people on welfare are on it due to laziness and nothing more, and not, for example, because there are NO JOBS, like. I know people on welfare, and if you think living on a hundred dollars a week is living comfortably, you're seriously deluded by the media.
That's another thing, people like you continue to parrot, The idea that competition, with monetary reward is the only incentive people have to innovate. Wrong. When people pool their resources, put their egos aside and work together, is when we see the greatest advances in knowledge. Example, you say? The human genome project!
@DPAMULTIMEDIA True, capitalism makes you selfish and greedy,grab AS MUCH as you can,while socialism teaches you to be fair to everyone and it teaches you to take only as much as you need.People that are sick and mentally ill should recive help from active productive people since they are not guilty bcz of their illness.In capitalism you have only 1 real right,and that is to die while in socialism you have to rights,to work and to die.Thats the difference.
The example is half true. What if there are 16 studients and only 15 candies? With limited resources, do you think both socialism and capitalism will solve the problem? capitalism with unfair compitions is extremely dangerous. socialism with out efficent resource management is even worse.
@Theliberty411 They do have higher taxes, but they also have a welfare system that helps those in need on any age and background, a health care system that is available to all and is not brook while doing it, a public school system which puts the US one to shame, and coincidentally they are most (but not all) of the countries with the longest life expectancy and highest qualify of life.
@dave19941000 Please a welfare systems makes countries broke!! The United States public school system only dropped since the department of education was created.. THE UNITED STATES IS NOTHING BUT CORPORATISM! capitalism left this country in 1913.. I laughed over Greece, and I'll continue to laugh as every European country falls along with the United States.. Socialism causes a nanny state which is impossible to pay for no matter how good hearted they make it out to be.
@metallifreak100 Norway, Sweden and Finland are not brook yet there the strong social democrats of Europe. In fact if you look it up in Norway a man is more free then in the US, and will likely live a longer, happier life that is also higher quality then that of anyone in the US making less then 150 000$ per year after taxes (with are low in the US). Socialism is not perfect, nothing is, but it's a hell of a lot better then the Oligarchy we for some reason call "free" market capitalism.
@dave19941000 I don't think you understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism. The United States does not have true free markets but rather is under control by a bunch of monopolies that get special treatment from our government. A capitalist country doesn't include bailing out banks like Bush did, and bailing out the auto industry like Obama did. Free market are where the people control the economy, we don't have that here. Capitalism lasted from 1832-1913
@metallifreak100 Capitalism died in the US because Free market Capitalism's own creation destroyed it, a fair market where competition is possible by it's nature can not be a free one, just like a free market can not be a fair one by it's nature. If a market truly is free it will eventually lead to the strongest companies taking power. Look at Japan, the only big name companies are the ones that worked together to beat competitiveness out.
@dave19941000 I don't trully believe that, central banks are the big culprits in sabotaging a trully free market society, Walmarts exist because of the special treatment our government gives places like that.. One thing that the government should do, DOESN'T! where are the tariffs on all this foreign made shit? sure it would hurt us in the short term but surely in the long term some jobs might actually come back. We once had 80 years of solid capitalism that worked, it could work again.
@metallifreak100 If government regulates the economy doesn't that make the market not a "free" one? I'm all for raising tariffs on China, and kicking Mexico out of NAFTA (before you say dissolve NAFTA, bare in mind it is beneficial to the Northern States as Canada's industries are on the same level as the US), but Capitalism in any form need some limits. Look at the Scandinavian countries, their markets are better off the that of the US (per capita) and they have a mixed economy.
@jeffiek So if it's not true, apart from Microsoft and Macintosh, what are the large nation wide and world wide computer softer-ware companies? The problem with unregulated free market capitalism is that it allows the large corporations to crush new competition, which is now easier then ever in the information age where transactions between any 2 point in the world are instantaneous.
@jeffiek you forgot to mention the free market has never produced a monopoly. the only time a monopoly has ever been created is with government help. The dmv being a good example.
Socialist countries: Norway, Sewden, Finnland, Denmark, Japan (during the mirical economy), South Korea (during the mirical economy) and Germany. I dont understand how people can possibly confuse the sucsess of Socialismwith the failure of Communism.
@dave19941000 Would like to know how you define socialisme, cause as far as i know all those countries has relative free trade, personal income and ownership rights. As they have on average 50% tax they must be as much capitalist as socialist.
Ahhh, but here's the kicker, which he failed to mention. In both scenarios, the amount of candy should be the same. Resources just don't start falling out of the sky if a population is more productive. Both systems suck, hell... life sucks, haha. At least one system offers you satisfaction of earning what you work for, the only problem is some people do not know when to stop. Capitalism is far superior. No reason we should centralize things and make it easy for the more immoral among us.
On second thought, screw making fun of you people. Conservative video comments pages are just hotbeds for negative leftarded unscholarly based rants. I'm going to a Liberal video to troll with my conservative brethren, if you'll excuse me.
The part they didn't include in the capitolist part of the.expirament was what happens when all the people who could by chance do more pushups earned more candy until there wasn't any left for any one else to get some and those who can't get any candy because they are physically un able to suffer because of an unfair advantage that someone with the same goal had. Now if you put this in terms of a family putting food on their table that is a sad thought going
Socialism should work IN THEORY. So far in real life, it hasn't worked out.
We shouldn't say "Communism/socialism/capitalism BAAAD!"
We should explore all the options, and see which works the best. In capitalism, the ones who gain fortune don't always deserve it like film- music- and television stars. Think about that before you judge the other two.
its almost funny how ignorant some people can be about how american sucking governments have hopelessly followed the free market model dispite the point blanc evidence that it is ripping society apart in the name of greater profits.
So who does the most pushups. Smart, heartless, white men who aren't burdened with children and aren't discriminated against, white women who are attractive enough to marry successful white men or who are intelligent and single. Intelligent black men who have the advantage of homes that speak in white-ese and have white mannerisms and, therefore don't suffer from as much discrimination,etc. Of course, then, without socialist programs, the disabled, the elderly are just f@@Ked.
@anniealia Dipshit, first 120 ml. people were either MURDERED by communists. On top of those you would need to inlcude the people who STARVED to DEATH because of systemic failures, i.e. where no external factors caused the famines. And certainly the victims of war are not counted in.
Let's look at what you wrote... "...who are burdened with children and aren't discriminated against, white women who are attractive enough to marry successful white men or who are intelligent and single."
1. You openly admit more interest in irresponsible sex than getting an education & then waiting/planning for kids
2. Discrimination? If you have the knowledge & skills you are able to get work just about anywhere. No knowledge, no skills = no work. Quite goofing off in school.
3. Next, ...no successful black men? Why? School instead of gangsta & drugs. Try it, you'll like it.
4. Attractive WHITE women? No attractive black women? Give me a break...I know gorgeous black women who are knowledeable and skilled.
5. As Cosby said, "I don't understand what comes out of their mouths!" Again...SCHOOL...try paying attention in English class AND doing your homework. You have only yourself to blame if you don't try to acquire the knowledge at your fingertips in SCHOOL.
Oh, and a little reinforcement on the sex thing...a lot of folks are having irresponsible sex to the degree that you will see three students in school with the same mom and three different last names. Yeah...you're burdened with children and their worthless fathers, aren't you? No one put a gun to your head and made you do that. YOU are making those f@@cking decisions. Quit blaming someone else for your immorality and the consequences.
Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking against: There is MERITOCRACY in socialism. You get rewarded for what you produce, it's the contrary in capitalism: you produce and the boss gets what you produced.
Ever heard of Stakhanovism? It didn't originate for nothing, people were rewarded for both having a more important job (janitors and doctors are NOT payed the same) or producing more than others.
@GeneralKlaas Who is payed the same is the people who have the same job. IE, doctors are ALL payed the same amount. Policemen are all payed the same and so on.
@GeneralKlaas If Doctor Brown is a better doctor then Doctor White, Doctor Brown should make more money then Doctor White. The only person that will disagree with this is Doctor White. Its simple logic really.
@GeneralKlaas Your second paragraph in your last post would contradict your original post that says all doctors would get paid the same.
Now, in a capitalist system the money collected by doctors for their care comes from the patents, usually through private insurance companies (NEVER FROM THE GOVERNMENT).
Doctor Brown will make more money because there will be a higher demand for his care, the only way Doctor White will be able to compete is if he charges less.
@shawn3975 "the system works becouse of the government interfering!"
Fuckhead, the US is wealthy because the governmental interference is reduced to a MINIMUM, you completely ignorant fool. Why are so many communists/left wingers completely brain amputated dumbasses??? Well, thats self-explained. If they had a brain, they certainly wouldnt be commies.
@GeneralKlaas "also u know most of the people that die come from capitalist countries in africa than communist countries?"
You dumb, uneducated, unintelligent piece of shit ... the problems African countries face are self-made and the solving of their problems lies within these countries and cannot com from outside. And what did communism do to solve these problems??? Nothing, communists love the poor and hungry so much, they created 100s of million more of them.
@shawn3975 ¨"becouse of places like mcdonalds and there 1 dolar burgers.a"
Dipshit, it is because the USA is wealthy and food became a cheap commodity, while in communist shitholes it was a scarce good.
If you think that you get cancer from McDo, then dont eat this greasy shit, you dipshit. It is a freedom of choice. If youu have the brains and the initiative, you provide yourself with what you believe is "healthy food".
@GeneralKlaas "also im not saying capitilism kills.."
Fuckhead, you dont do it, bcse this would be lile.
".u can not blame the type of government the state has for stuff like starvation"
Fuckhead, in the case of the famines occured in almost ALL communist shitholes I can because thats simply the case. Famines in USSR 1920 and 1932/3. China 1958-1960, to mention only the biggest.
@GeneralKlaas No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
@gamefreak1000000 Sir by being a leftie i see the prosperity of captislim and the prosperity of communism both are in. Their own ways good but to me communism makes the working man. happier and only cause of this will the man that runs the machine truly achieve succes is by insuring. He himself is happy and when the worker is happy so is the community.
@mririshmen100 "Communism brought modernization to many countries, and in places like N. Korea, China, and Myanmar,"
Dipshit, any attempt of "modernization" and industrialization by communists ended in a COMPLETE NIGHTMARE, you brain amputated monkey. Collectivization under Stalin, 14 mil. dead, "great" leap forward under Mao 45 mil. dead, NKorea 4 mil. dead, Pol Pot 4 mil dead.
Why actually dont leftists like you try with HISTORICAL FACTS??
@23lFrench No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
I love how liberals all make the same fail argument that capitalism is bad while the actual economists are using facts and logic on to why capitalism is successful. You lefties need to stop being soo closed minded and actually listen to the people that know what they're talking about instead of idiots like Karl Marx (Satan II).
Also, was this the same group of students? Its pretty damn obvious the more athletic kids would be more willing to have a go at it the second time around.
This test lacks construct and discriminant validity, and has a great possibility of lacking reliability and variable-controlled atmosphere.
Try this with two separate groups of students, then cite it as an example of the failure of a political archetype.
Sure, what you refer to is someone working to be paid by an employer, the employer keeps most of the money and the workers gets some to buy pay their bills. What I mean is that the capitalist employers' objective is to pay at little as possible, to maximize profits, now since the workers don't have any other way to obtain food and housing in a system that always demands money, they have to take up whatever employment they can find, there is never concern about the worker's well being cont-
Capitalism donesn't give you nothing this belief of socialism being bad is crap. I believe our government has a responsibility to look after their own people not the banks or the money p
Look at west european countries and east, post soviet countries. That's different beetween capitalism and socialism
3DSFuture 1 day ago
everywhere there is a socialist nation, there is a failure to meet the needs of the poeople of that nation - suck on Scandinavia's (and indeed many parts of europe's) massive dangling balls!
there is a mis-conception that anything socialist is actually communism - in fact, it is easy for there to be financial incentives across a socialist society if you build it right. it is no crime for a government to take control or partial control of sectors which the free market can't efficiently operate.
alex29443 6 days ago
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"....This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use....and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression."
William Bradford from "Of Plymouth Plantation" 1623
FoundInBetween 3 weeks ago
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"All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery....the Governor (with the advice of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves; in all other things to go on in the general way as before....."
FoundInBetween 3 weeks ago
while this is a somewhat valid point, capitalism does have it's advantage on a national scale. but, historically, capitalism has never solved it's crises. capitalist countries simply push their problems around the world geographically, so on a global scale, capitalism is showing the same problems (poverty and debt) that some see as a result of laziness and others see as a result of an unbalanced market. bottom line is, social systems are absolutely necessary to maintain a stable global economy.
jogo00062livecom 3 weeks ago
reagan the thick mother fucker who led the usa into the biggest capitalism corrupt era ...thank fuck the wanker is dead
hoppterr 4 weeks ago
socialism = all poor no rich
cothulu3 1 month ago
capitalism = few rich. many poor
yosbertt 1 month ago
@yosbertt Do you actually think we have Capitalism? When there are few rich and many poor, that is not capitalist, because you are missing one factor: MIDDLE CLASS. In order for any nation to be a nation, it needs to have rich and poor, or all poor. But laissez faire capitalist states have middle classes, mostly people with good jobs or small businesses. A truly genuine society. When there are few rich and many poor, it is caused by corp. inflation and overproduction and underconsumption.
masterskyrunner 2 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
all that capitalism is, is economic freedom
nic4r 1 month ago
The scientific method states that an experiment must be repeatable with consistant results. Therefore if the student does the experiment once it does not prove that capitalism is better than socialism. He must do the experiment a plethora of times and find that an overwhelming number of times capitalism wins out to be even consider as a legitimate evidence to say capitalism is better than socialism.
09qwertqwert 1 month ago
What a piece of shit!!!
jackdanielskfc 1 month ago
That dislike bar is getting awfully red and scary.
SculptedThoughts 1 month ago
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TO ALL SOCIALIST COMRADES, you are the people that believe not only in socialism. but in mankind, its people like you that will bring the world to a new age of peace and prosperity , each day more and more people realize that the we are working to make the rich even richer that many are working for the few.96% of the wealth of the world is owned by 1% of the people, just imagine if they gave up just half of their wealth, poverty would cease to exist.
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spiritofrock1 1 month ago
Ronald Reagan is a true american hero and a patriot
TheLchcfan 2 months ago
but Capitalism and Socialism is all FREEDOMS!!!!
MegaAble1234 2 months ago 3
100 prosents capitalism!!! Capitalism is best
MegaAble1234 2 months ago
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gig300300300 2 months ago
If I was stupid I would believe this. xD
Paulsasleepwalker 2 months ago
if the subjects had banks that they could put their candy in and recieve intrest for the next day, some of them would need to do fuck all every day to get candy (anallargy for money/food to survive) just like rich capitalists, whereas the poor would have to work hard every day and sometimes even take out a loan for the days they didnt work and become even poorer. Another fault with the experiment: candy is a treat, whereas you need money to buy food to survive
bridgeroadjoe 2 months ago
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In a FREE society, citizens can choose to live as a Marxist; but in a Marxist society, citizens cannot choose to be FREE!
Nothing more needs to be said.
sgapplebee 2 months ago
Capitalism ftw. Obama is a freaking socalist!
etheain 3 months ago
@etheain Meanwhile, in the REAL world, Obama isn't even a liberal. He's nowhere vaguely CLOSE to socialist. But, then, from Reagan, the single worst president in United States history, to this present day LYING is the only way the rancid evil of capitalism can be defended.
PrisonerNumber9653 3 months ago
Actually capitalism failed compleatly which is why most developed countries today have things like free health care. Taxes, governments, unions, etc. All socialist ideas. So quit bitching about how bad socialism is.
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk because of libs forcing socialist ideas, thats why america is in a depression right now. also capitalism has not failed completely. also you are a fag.
smallfrye182 3 months ago
@smallfrye182 No its not. The reason for that is because greedy people will rather have their factories in China and India where they can use workers as slaves because thats allot cheaper then paying actuall humans to do the job. And you want to follow them. Yei, lets just all be slaves, and work 10 hour days for something less then 1/10 of the current minimum wage (probably lower) and never be able to get anywhere else in life, because we dont have money for anything. Sounds great, FUCK YOU.
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk i didnt even have to read your whole comment to tell you are a fag.fag.
smallfrye182 3 months ago
@smallfrye182 troll?
You know even if you are not, and even if you are just the average conservative guy who didnt finish university, it surprises me how when conservatives are upset they call people names instead of arguing. ""Oh, we hate obama, lets call him a socialist"" Heck, the left is better at critisising the left then the right is.
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk you said fuck you and called me a fag. muhaha i win!
smallfrye182 3 months ago
@smallfrye182
i just lost a little faith in capitalism today
MajikMengo 3 months ago
@MajikMengo cool story.
smallfrye182 3 months ago
@smallfrye182
it's cool story, bro.
MajikMengo 3 months ago
@MajikMengo i didnt feel like putting bro.
smallfrye182 3 months ago
@smallfrye182
cool story.
MajikMengo 3 months ago
@MajikMengo umadbro?
smallfrye182 3 months ago
@smallfrye182 lol why do you ask
MajikMengo 3 months ago
...and alot of revolutionaries have written very thorough books explaining exactly how and why the revolution in i.e Russia degenerated, and why the bureaucratically managed command economy collapsed. I'd recommend Alan Woods, i.e.
The collapse itself, was even foreseed by Trotsky in "Revolution Betrayed" which explained the deformed nature of the USSR. It's not sufficient just to point at the overall outcome of *formally* socialist countries. Especially not in the mid of a capitalist crisis.
Counterreactionary 3 months ago
wow, what a load of shit, laughable
envirogrunt 3 months ago
It is not Captialism vs. Socialism. Almost all successful nations are capitalist-socialist hybrids. (Including the U.S.)
It is not about which one we pick, it is about where we strike the balance. If you keep track of U.S history before and after the great depression, we have already found the most functional economic model.
The model is capitalism at core, but where the free market fails, the government provides. A healthy dose of socialism helps capitalism function properly.
Neosaigo 3 months ago
Productivity? The human nature is to be competitive when there is a reward involved. Now imagine if you change the reward, let's say instead of candy subjects get a limited amount of oxygen. Let's say if they all work together, anybody to its ability, they get enough oxygen for all of them to survive(Socialism). But if they compete for oxygen, the weak will die, plus it is almost certain that the weak will try to kill stronger competitors to survive. Everyone is given a gun too. Not possible?
RamEsfan 3 months ago
@RamEsfan Sorry dude, but communists didn't treat people as if they are animals
victorydayof91945 3 months ago
@victorydayof91945 Why are you sorry? I am not sure if you got my point. I am not against communism, in fact I think if it worked it would have been great. But looking from a scientific point of view achieving results with communism is only possible in two ways, 1. Change the human nature(remove competitiveness from every individuals behavior) 2. Educate the young to understand the importance and the reason why the whole world should work as a team to eliminate poverty.( Not yet achievable)
RamEsfan 3 months ago
@RamEsfan
"if it worked it would have been great."
platipot 3 months ago
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"You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright. But we'll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won't have to fight you; we'll so weaken your economy until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands."
-Nikita Kruschev of the former Soviet Union
Solverwiz 4 months ago
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mustang607 4 months ago
Uh, Mr. Reagan, if socialism is so evil, why did you STEAL AND REDISTRIBUTE taxpayer money to bail out Chrysler?
bronxbearbud 4 months ago
History proves capitalism is more productive than socialism. And those who call capitalism a selfish system need to realize there is nothing genuine about forcing people to pay for others. In a capitalist system we have the right to choose to be selfless and helpful. Besides, most socialists who argue capitalism is selfish would rather be on the receiving end of the help, not the ones offering the help.
cfr53 4 months ago
Is the candy being printed by the Federal Reserve?
jv157 4 months ago
Of course the system in the US is everybody does does pushups and the Obama gives the candy to the unions and "green jobs" and banks that donated money to his campaign and the people never see it again
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
The difference between socialism, communism and capitalism is basically… what flavor of monetary system do you like? The impacting similarities between all of them are undeniable. One similarity is this idea is based off the notion that we have unlimited resources, this of course is a fallacy. The other similarity is the product needs to be inefficient for it to make a profit in these systems. As far as motivation is concerned look up RSA animate the surprising truth about what motivates us.
paradoxparody 4 months ago
Not true. I will say three things to refute this entire argument against collectivism: Commune de Paris, Spanish Revolution, Utopian American Settlers. /end
Abnihilius 5 months ago
Err dude, the candies are supposed to be 'limited', that is the basic rule of economics - resources are SCARCE. So the correct experiment would be that all 15 candies go to the person or two persons who are the most fit, while the others starve to death because they weren't phsyically fit. That is what capitalism leads too.
Scorpion17a 5 months ago
whats wrong with Socialism?.. Here in Denmark you can still get rich of your own ideas over night? just like americans, what's your point? and here in denmark (and scandinavia) we have free universal helath care, and the right to a free education, and if you loos everything.. the state helps you with money, so you dont have to live on the street. i cant see that, that's a bad thing?? Yearh, we pay a high tax, but we get so much for it in the end.
DPAMULTIMEDIA 5 months ago
@DPAMULTIMEDIA because if you want to act like a dumbass and do things you know full well are bad for you you should live on the street why should productive people have to take care of some useless parasite
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution because we belive all people can be helped in some way, and we care about our fellow man.. and when we do this you dont see as manny poor people on the street.. and i see exsampels all the time from the U.S. were people lose everything because a family member get's cancer or somthing like that. Just because they could not aforrd the right insurance.. are they also useless parasite's??
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
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@DPAMULTIMEDIA how can you ever judg a homeless person?! do you the your time, to ask them why they are on the street? why they dont have any friends or family who can take care of them?? No, you just pass them by while thinking '' What a bum..''
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
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@AynRandRevolution How can you ever judg a homeless person?! do you the your time, to ask them why they are on the street? why they dont have any friends or family who can take care of them?? No, you just pass them by while thinking '' What a bum..''
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@DPAMULTIMEDIA yeah you pay a high tax...and who does your hard earned money go to? lazy asses that dont work hard and didnt earn that money, do you really think its fair that a guy who works everyday of his life 9-5 works hard and makes and honest living gets his money STOLEN from him by the governemnt so that they can GIVE IT AWAY to someone doesnt do any of those things and just sits on their ass all day? is that fair?
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Well you're correct on what you just said it is unfair that people abuse social care systems to just sit about and do jack shit, but you have got to realize it does help a lot of people to get by with life. now the reason they sit about and to jack shit is due to capitalism in the first place as well as being governed and the way the schools teach kids. I'm not a socialist by the way I'm an anarchist where we believe we all need to work together as well as being equal =]
warpenguin6 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx You have 40 million people in the USA without any health care that will get left to die.Why not pay a national insurance tax that covers everyone.
infidel1978 4 months ago
@infidel1978 I just peronally beleive that in a free country the working man should have the freedom to spend his money and put his money where/when he wants, I beleive its tyrannical to take peoples hard earned money through taxes and spending it on whatver and wherever they please without the persons consent. some people wil do better than others, it all depends on how hard you work. thats how it should be, the good hardworking, honest citizens should take priority over those who do nothing.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Yeah but there's going to be people who are out of work like they are in the UK but still looking for a job inthe mean time the state provides for them pays there housing rent and council tax till they find a job then when you do you pay it all back in tax.What's wrong with that ??
infidel1978 4 months ago
@infidel1978 because again the governemnt is taking peoples money and doing with it as they please, maybe all those other people paying taxes are barley keeping afloat themselves and need that extra money being taken through taxes, and I bet that if the gov hadnt taken so much money from them in the first place when they guy lost his job he would have enough extra money to stay afloat, so he didnt have use evrybody elses money.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx We pay a high tax, yes... but for that money we get repairs of road's, free health care, a free education, a social safty net that helpesyou, if you lose everything. a system that helps you get back on your feet, and money to take care of our disabled and mentally ill, people that otherwise would end up on the street, ass the do in the US, just because they could not afford the right insurance.
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx You forget that people who sit's on their ass all day and dont do anything, often has a psychological problem that might make it so that they can't get their act together. we help these people, so they might some day agin contribute to society.
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@DPAMULTIMEDIA it just seems like such a nanny state system, "oh we feel sorry for all these people, so its alright to screw over everyother hardworking person in this country (or the majority of the country) in order to accomadate this minority of the population that we feel sorry for" just seems very unfair, its like you wanna hold all those hardworking and productive citizens back just so all the other people dont feel bad, just not how life works.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx okay, i have about 2.581,74 dollars after tax, for my self, every month. my salary is not that high here. but with this pay i have 30972 dollars, after tax every year. before tax i have 3.872,61 USD a month, but for that money i have free health care, a free education, a social safty net that helpes you, if you lose everything. you think of it as they ''steal'' our money, i see it as a social safty net.
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx and for your idea of a ''nanny state system'', no. we just take care of each other, and for that, scandinavia is one of the best places to live in the world.
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@DPAMULTIMEDIA yeah you have no economic freedom, sounds great
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
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@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx That's all you got left to say?,.. i think i've made my point..
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx what do you pay for your health insurance a month.
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Wauw.. the capitalist governments really got you good,. can not take you serious.. you seem to belive everything they tell you about the ''evil socialist states of Scandinavia''. Hehe.. omg.
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark yeah too bad the way things are ran right now in the west is not real capitalism, plutocrats just try to use the cover of capitalism to further their plutocracy, Ive never even heard the phrase ''evil socialist states of Scandinavia'' its not me talking for the government, its just the truth, you people have virtually no say in where the money the gov takes from you goes.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Ohh, now i see.. you preach the truth do ya? haha, that makes me laugh. you dont know how it's like to live in Scandinavia, Life here is just so much better then the US, look at how we live compared to the Americans, we have better Health care, better education, better drinking water, longer life expectancy, we even have better internet then you!.. im happy with the way things are :) i think you are just jealous, because you live in what is almost the 3 world.
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark Im not American, but lets get something staright here, you have FREE-ER health care than the US, but not BETTER, the UN studies say that the US has one of the higher qualities of health care in the developed world, most countries with public health care have a lower quality of care, the US is hardly what I would consider third world, their debt is huge, but then again somebody from Europe still shouldbt be talking...
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx spare me your capitalist attitud, it is simply selfish, everything is about '' me me me'' .. You can not look over your own nose. to help a poor person, is stupid in your eye's... ''capitalism makes you selfish and greedy,grab AS MUCH as you can,while socialism teaches you to be fair to everyone and it teaches you to take only as much as you need.''
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark I have no problem with helping less fortunate, Ive given money to homeless, Ive donated in food drives, etc. I just dont think you should HAVE to give up your money or posessions that you bought with your money, in a free country people should have the freedom of choosing where they want their hard earned money to go to.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx typical capitalist... if you want to live in a country with free health care, and free education, you have to give somthing to the system, to get somthing back.
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark socialism will make everyone poor in teh end.
chrisfour4444 4 months ago
@chrisfour4444 why?
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@chrisfour4444 What a stupid comment.. troll
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark Socialism is a debunk ideology where the "hard working" lower-middle class get more wages for less work. If the industry leaders who constantly strive to revolutionise our everyday lives were forced to work for no more than a common labourer or academic failure, then you'd probably be happy that the workload of society is endured by others, and you still reap the rewards from their toils. Both systems are greedy, but Capitalism doesn't pretend to be a moral.
Atrollin1 4 months ago
@Atrollin1 How can you expose Socialism for that kind of criticism? it has not failed yet.
but capitalism is about to fail in the US. the entire country is about to go bust.
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark Socialism hasn't failed? Look at Soviet Russia, the economy stalled and people starved. The national SOCIAL german workers party (Nazi), state oppression, torture, genocide, compulsary labour for a pittance... it goes on.
Capitalism, most of Europe and America, free market, equal and independant opportunity, democracy, world's most powerful economies (just in a hard time due to people moaning whilst taking their rights for granted...)
Capitalism is the way forward.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
@Atrollin1 A good deal of Europe is a mix of socialism and capitalism. Scandanavia is mostly socialist at least until recently, and to the extent they have adopted "capitalist" changes (ie. corporatist changes) their economies have been driven into the ground.
oldchicken2 2 months ago
BTW, compare Soviet Russia to the rise of American capitalism. Soviet Russian saw the death of 10s of millions and the authoratarian takeover of land, etc. American capitalism was created on the deaths of millions of American Indians and the enslavement of an entire population.
Go tell China that capitalism is the way forward.
oldchicken2 2 months ago
@oldchicken2 China is becoming Capitalist, that's why so many entrepeneurs are springing up and driving the economy forward. Socialist China saw a pretty terrible quality of life for most of the population.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
@Atrollin1 There were massive atrocities in "Communist" China. Once again, compare to the rise of American Capitalism: "a pretty terrible quality of life for most of the population."
oldchicken2 2 months ago
@Atrollin1 China is adopting capitalist changes, which does not help your case much. China is still very much an authoritarian state, and if anything it's proving that, as long as significant portions of the population have enough products and a relative level of comfort, capitalism is perfectly adaptable to authoritarian systems.
oldchicken2 2 months ago
@oldchicken2 How is that any different to adapting Capitalist ideas? China needs some aspects of Capitalism to support the economy it's building; without it, there won't be enough motivation to succeed.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
@Atrollin1 It's different because most pro-capitalists claim that capitalism and free market forces lead to political freedom. I'm just saying that, in the case of China, that's not happening.
oldchicken2 2 months ago
@oldchicken2 China has long been known for human rights abuses. Whilst here in the west we take it too far, they're in many cases the complete opposite. It's getting better, but that's just their culture. Maybe they don't see it quite as we do. Though free market is being implemented, and millionaires and privately owned projects are springing up like never before.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
@Atrollin1 Idiot.. Soviet Russia had Communism! And for you to even compere The Nazi party a Hitlers germany with Socialism, Just proves, that you dont know what your talking about. What we have in Scandinavia is Socialism.. and we have had it since the 1940's. And oddly enough we here in Scandinavia , are some of the happiest people on the planet!
Badboysofdenmark 2 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark Communism is a form of socialism, actually, it's the epitemy of socialism, it has no classes, no private business and everybody is totally equal regardless of what work they do. Nazi party WAS socialist, (National SOCIAL German Workers Party). Socialism fails on its most fundamental level, and that is because it offers no rewards for the innovator. The workers get a better deal, but there's always the problem that they often don't even get employed.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
@Atrollin1 So what you are saying is that we here in Scandinavia, are poor stupid ppl because we have socialism? Ohh i see.. you dont like that we have free health care and free education?.. and capitalism fails because it creates a giant ditch between rich and poor, and lets the majority of the ppl suffer because they can not afford the right insurance if they get sick, or loses a hous to a fire.. and i dont care if hitlers (National SOCIAL German Workers Party) was socialist.
Badboysofdenmark 2 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark it was not exactly what they end up with.. Hitler wanted to create a Nazi cult, based on he's faith, and only used polics to gain power. Idiot. Hitler was a psychopath!
Badboysofdenmark 2 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark Well actually you DO care if the Nazis were socialists because that seemed to make you pretty angry. I don't think you're idiots, but I do think Capitalism is a better system, because despite its flaws it still rewards the most inspired among us to do well. Capitalism has a huge rich-poor divide, and the poor spend most of their working hours moaning about it, but in socialist nations, mainly Soviet Russia, their poor make the Capitalist poor look rich.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
@Atrollin1
Just because you see examples of 'inspired' people who do well, does not mean the majority of 'inspired' people achieve a comfortable financial life. The vast majority of 'inspired' people work and work and work and still do not achieve that. Why? Because there are not enough slots in the capitalist system for all of us to succeed! Because capitalism is based on limited quantity, thus limited successes!
brainboob 2 months ago
@Badboysofdenmark the only problem with Capitalism is that people can't bear someone having more money than them. Someone on welfare benefits who plays games 8+ hours a day and even lives more comfortably than some hard working families can't take that someone who starts a successful business and endures all the risks that come with it will be driving a luxury car that their free welfare checks won't afford. That's the biggest cause for people to hate Capitalism.
Atrollin1 2 months ago
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@Atrollin1 Oh, my god no! the main reason that people hate Capitalism, is that it creates a giant ditch between rich and poor! And i dont think i can continue talking to you, when you keep compareing todays socialism with Hitlers Nazi parti. Just because they called themselves socialists, it does not meen that they were!! and the only reason Soviet Russia failed, was because they turned to communism.. Which is so extreme, you cant even call it socialism.
Badboysofdenmark 2 months ago
@Atrollin1
I like how you assume that people on welfare are on it due to laziness and nothing more, and not, for example, because there are NO JOBS, like. I know people on welfare, and if you think living on a hundred dollars a week is living comfortably, you're seriously deluded by the media.
brainboob 2 months ago
@Atrollin1
That's another thing, people like you continue to parrot, The idea that competition, with monetary reward is the only incentive people have to innovate. Wrong. When people pool their resources, put their egos aside and work together, is when we see the greatest advances in knowledge. Example, you say? The human genome project!
brainboob 2 months ago
@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx Have a good life... i know i will.
Badboysofdenmark 4 months ago
@DPAMULTIMEDIA True, capitalism makes you selfish and greedy,grab AS MUCH as you can,while socialism teaches you to be fair to everyone and it teaches you to take only as much as you need.People that are sick and mentally ill should recive help from active productive people since they are not guilty bcz of their illness.In capitalism you have only 1 real right,and that is to die while in socialism you have to rights,to work and to die.Thats the difference.
WukFanatic 4 months ago
@WukFanatic Socialism ruins nations. Look at Europe. GG
TheGhostfacekilla86 4 months ago
@TheGhostfacekilla86 - yeah and look America - how much it's destroying it, we haven't been a true free market since before 1913.
TruthKnowledgeDOTcom 4 months ago
@TruthKnowledgeDOTcom Yep. Sad ain't it?? Where to move where to move...
TheGhostfacekilla86 4 months ago
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DPAMULTIMEDIA 5 months ago
sooo... reagan is now a scientist? does he know if this is a scientifically valid experiment?
userek69 5 months ago
The example is half true. What if there are 16 studients and only 15 candies? With limited resources, do you think both socialism and capitalism will solve the problem? capitalism with unfair compitions is extremely dangerous. socialism with out efficent resource management is even worse.
ThePizazzy 5 months ago
@Theliberty411 They do have higher taxes, but they also have a welfare system that helps those in need on any age and background, a health care system that is available to all and is not brook while doing it, a public school system which puts the US one to shame, and coincidentally they are most (but not all) of the countries with the longest life expectancy and highest qualify of life.
dave19941000 5 months ago
@dave19941000 Please a welfare systems makes countries broke!! The United States public school system only dropped since the department of education was created.. THE UNITED STATES IS NOTHING BUT CORPORATISM! capitalism left this country in 1913.. I laughed over Greece, and I'll continue to laugh as every European country falls along with the United States.. Socialism causes a nanny state which is impossible to pay for no matter how good hearted they make it out to be.
metallifreak100 5 months ago
@metallifreak100 Norway, Sweden and Finland are not brook yet there the strong social democrats of Europe. In fact if you look it up in Norway a man is more free then in the US, and will likely live a longer, happier life that is also higher quality then that of anyone in the US making less then 150 000$ per year after taxes (with are low in the US). Socialism is not perfect, nothing is, but it's a hell of a lot better then the Oligarchy we for some reason call "free" market capitalism.
dave19941000 5 months ago
@dave19941000 I don't think you understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism. The United States does not have true free markets but rather is under control by a bunch of monopolies that get special treatment from our government. A capitalist country doesn't include bailing out banks like Bush did, and bailing out the auto industry like Obama did. Free market are where the people control the economy, we don't have that here. Capitalism lasted from 1832-1913
metallifreak100 5 months ago
@metallifreak100 Capitalism died in the US because Free market Capitalism's own creation destroyed it, a fair market where competition is possible by it's nature can not be a free one, just like a free market can not be a fair one by it's nature. If a market truly is free it will eventually lead to the strongest companies taking power. Look at Japan, the only big name companies are the ones that worked together to beat competitiveness out.
dave19941000 5 months ago
@dave19941000 I don't trully believe that, central banks are the big culprits in sabotaging a trully free market society, Walmarts exist because of the special treatment our government gives places like that.. One thing that the government should do, DOESN'T! where are the tariffs on all this foreign made shit? sure it would hurt us in the short term but surely in the long term some jobs might actually come back. We once had 80 years of solid capitalism that worked, it could work again.
metallifreak100 5 months ago
@metallifreak100 If government regulates the economy doesn't that make the market not a "free" one? I'm all for raising tariffs on China, and kicking Mexico out of NAFTA (before you say dissolve NAFTA, bare in mind it is beneficial to the Northern States as Canada's industries are on the same level as the US), but Capitalism in any form need some limits. Look at the Scandinavian countries, their markets are better off the that of the US (per capita) and they have a mixed economy.
dave19941000 5 months ago
@dave19941000 "If a market truly is free it will eventually lead to the strongest companies taking power. "
You might have a point IF
1) nothing new was ever invented
2) people didn't grow old and die
3) the population was constant
Alas, this is the real world, and your crap has been debunked a thousand times.
jeffiek 5 months ago
@jeffiek So if it's not true, apart from Microsoft and Macintosh, what are the large nation wide and world wide computer softer-ware companies? The problem with unregulated free market capitalism is that it allows the large corporations to crush new competition, which is now easier then ever in the information age where transactions between any 2 point in the world are instantaneous.
dave19941000 5 months ago
@dave19941000 Macintosh??? Don't you mean Apple?
Unix ( and all its variants )
You won't let the lie die, will you? Don't worry, mommy government is more than willing to "protect" you from the boggy men of the world.
By the way, Microsoft gets most of it's strength FROM government support, and Apple isn't far behind.
jeffiek 5 months ago
@jeffiek you forgot to mention the free market has never produced a monopoly. the only time a monopoly has ever been created is with government help. The dmv being a good example.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
is this ronald ragan????
harrisonconstantinou 5 months ago
is this ronald ragan
harrisonconstantinou 5 months ago
Socialist countries: Norway, Sewden, Finnland, Denmark, Japan (during the mirical economy), South Korea (during the mirical economy) and Germany. I dont understand how people can possibly confuse the sucsess of Socialismwith the failure of Communism.
dave19941000 5 months ago
@dave19941000 Would like to know how you define socialisme, cause as far as i know all those countries has relative free trade, personal income and ownership rights. As they have on average 50% tax they must be as much capitalist as socialist.
Atramentum1 5 months ago
Ahhh, but here's the kicker, which he failed to mention. In both scenarios, the amount of candy should be the same. Resources just don't start falling out of the sky if a population is more productive. Both systems suck, hell... life sucks, haha. At least one system offers you satisfaction of earning what you work for, the only problem is some people do not know when to stop. Capitalism is far superior. No reason we should centralize things and make it easy for the more immoral among us.
bweazel 5 months ago
On second thought, screw making fun of you people. Conservative video comments pages are just hotbeds for negative leftarded unscholarly based rants. I'm going to a Liberal video to troll with my conservative brethren, if you'll excuse me.
MrPingasPower 5 months ago
@TurpentineRec I was going to make fun of you, but this sums it up better; OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS
MrPingasPower 5 months ago
So what about Ronald Reagan, so what about that fucker? He was a dork, stupid and deserved that bullet in the head
TurpentineRec 5 months ago
The part they didn't include in the capitolist part of the.expirament was what happens when all the people who could by chance do more pushups earned more candy until there wasn't any left for any one else to get some and those who can't get any candy because they are physically un able to suffer because of an unfair advantage that someone with the same goal had. Now if you put this in terms of a family putting food on their table that is a sad thought going
Hungry
AllenR142 5 months ago
Idiocy of Carl Marx?
Fuck you!
Socialism should work IN THEORY. So far in real life, it hasn't worked out.
We shouldn't say "Communism/socialism/capitalism BAAAD!"
We should explore all the options, and see which works the best. In capitalism, the ones who gain fortune don't always deserve it like film- music- and television stars. Think about that before you judge the other two.
aFinnsTheory 5 months ago
@aFinnsTheory what about norway
extremeeXrement1 5 months ago
@extremeeXrement1 What do you mean?
aFinnsTheory 5 months ago
@aFinnsTheory arent they socalist and have a good economy
extremeeXrement1 5 months ago
@extremeeXrement1 I didn't know Norway is a socialist country, so I'm not actually sure.
aFinnsTheory 5 months ago
its almost funny how ignorant some people can be about how american sucking governments have hopelessly followed the free market model dispite the point blanc evidence that it is ripping society apart in the name of greater profits.
socialist123 5 months ago
So who does the most pushups. Smart, heartless, white men who aren't burdened with children and aren't discriminated against, white women who are attractive enough to marry successful white men or who are intelligent and single. Intelligent black men who have the advantage of homes that speak in white-ese and have white mannerisms and, therefore don't suffer from as much discrimination,etc. Of course, then, without socialist programs, the disabled, the elderly are just f@@Ked.
anniealia 6 months ago
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@anniealia Dipshit, first 120 ml. people were either MURDERED by communists. On top of those you would need to inlcude the people who STARVED to DEATH because of systemic failures, i.e. where no external factors caused the famines. And certainly the victims of war are not counted in.
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
Let's look at what you wrote... "...who are burdened with children and aren't discriminated against, white women who are attractive enough to marry successful white men or who are intelligent and single."
1. You openly admit more interest in irresponsible sex than getting an education & then waiting/planning for kids
2. Discrimination? If you have the knowledge & skills you are able to get work just about anywhere. No knowledge, no skills = no work. Quite goofing off in school.
3. Read next
Redeyespecial 6 months ago
3. Next, ...no successful black men? Why? School instead of gangsta & drugs. Try it, you'll like it.
4. Attractive WHITE women? No attractive black women? Give me a break...I know gorgeous black women who are knowledeable and skilled.
5. As Cosby said, "I don't understand what comes out of their mouths!" Again...SCHOOL...try paying attention in English class AND doing your homework. You have only yourself to blame if you don't try to acquire the knowledge at your fingertips in SCHOOL.
Redeyespecial 6 months ago
Oh, and a little reinforcement on the sex thing...a lot of folks are having irresponsible sex to the degree that you will see three students in school with the same mom and three different last names. Yeah...you're burdened with children and their worthless fathers, aren't you? No one put a gun to your head and made you do that. YOU are making those f@@cking decisions. Quit blaming someone else for your immorality and the consequences.
Redeyespecial 6 months ago
It's not like that...
Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking against: There is MERITOCRACY in socialism. You get rewarded for what you produce, it's the contrary in capitalism: you produce and the boss gets what you produced.
Ever heard of Stakhanovism? It didn't originate for nothing, people were rewarded for both having a more important job (janitors and doctors are NOT payed the same) or producing more than others.
GeneralKlaas 6 months ago
@GeneralKlaas Who is payed the same is the people who have the same job. IE, doctors are ALL payed the same amount. Policemen are all payed the same and so on.
GeneralKlaas 6 months ago
@GeneralKlaas If Doctor Brown is a better doctor then Doctor White, Doctor Brown should make more money then Doctor White. The only person that will disagree with this is Doctor White. Its simple logic really.
shawn3975 6 months ago
@shawn3975 This doesn't happen in capitalism either.
However, the country can regulate this, seeing how many patients did doctor White save and how many did Brown save, rewarding them differently
GeneralKlaas 6 months ago
@GeneralKlaas Your second paragraph in your last post would contradict your original post that says all doctors would get paid the same.
Now, in a capitalist system the money collected by doctors for their care comes from the patents, usually through private insurance companies (NEVER FROM THE GOVERNMENT).
Doctor Brown will make more money because there will be a higher demand for his care, the only way Doctor White will be able to compete is if he charges less.
shawn3975 6 months ago
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@shawn3975 "the system works becouse of the government interfering!"
Fuckhead, the US is wealthy because the governmental interference is reduced to a MINIMUM, you completely ignorant fool. Why are so many communists/left wingers completely brain amputated dumbasses??? Well, thats self-explained. If they had a brain, they certainly wouldnt be commies.
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
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@GeneralKlaas "also u know most of the people that die come from capitalist countries in africa than communist countries?"
You dumb, uneducated, unintelligent piece of shit ... the problems African countries face are self-made and the solving of their problems lies within these countries and cannot com from outside. And what did communism do to solve these problems??? Nothing, communists love the poor and hungry so much, they created 100s of million more of them.
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
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@shawn3975 ¨"becouse of places like mcdonalds and there 1 dolar burgers.a"
Dipshit, it is because the USA is wealthy and food became a cheap commodity, while in communist shitholes it was a scarce good.
If you think that you get cancer from McDo, then dont eat this greasy shit, you dipshit. It is a freedom of choice. If youu have the brains and the initiative, you provide yourself with what you believe is "healthy food".
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
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@GeneralKlaas "also im not saying capitilism kills.."
Fuckhead, you dont do it, bcse this would be lile.
".u can not blame the type of government the state has for stuff like starvation"
Fuckhead, in the case of the famines occured in almost ALL communist shitholes I can because thats simply the case. Famines in USSR 1920 and 1932/3. China 1958-1960, to mention only the biggest.
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
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@GeneralKlaas No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
@gamefreak1000000 Sir by being a leftie i see the prosperity of captislim and the prosperity of communism both are in. Their own ways good but to me communism makes the working man. happier and only cause of this will the man that runs the machine truly achieve succes is by insuring. He himself is happy and when the worker is happy so is the community.
mririshmen100 6 months ago
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@mririshmen100 "Communism brought modernization to many countries, and in places like N. Korea, China, and Myanmar,"
Dipshit, any attempt of "modernization" and industrialization by communists ended in a COMPLETE NIGHTMARE, you brain amputated monkey. Collectivization under Stalin, 14 mil. dead, "great" leap forward under Mao 45 mil. dead, NKorea 4 mil. dead, Pol Pot 4 mil dead.
Why actually dont leftists like you try with HISTORICAL FACTS??
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
Yeah when you put profit and greed before peoples welfare, that is one brilliant system hey ;)
23lFrench 6 months ago
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@23lFrench No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
I love how liberals all make the same fail argument that capitalism is bad while the actual economists are using facts and logic on to why capitalism is successful. You lefties need to stop being soo closed minded and actually listen to the people that know what they're talking about instead of idiots like Karl Marx (Satan II).
gamefreak1000000 6 months ago
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@gamefreak1000000 "was demonized by American Mass Media as torturers and killers"
What a pity. Communists killed 120 mil. people and then they are branded as killers, murderers and terrorists??
Man, life is not fair, not fair.
"capitalism killed more."
Dipshit, no it didnt.
Next patient please!!!
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
This is not a test of Capitalism vs Socialism.
This is a test of Piecework vs Salary.
Also, was this the same group of students? Its pretty damn obvious the more athletic kids would be more willing to have a go at it the second time around.
This test lacks construct and discriminant validity, and has a great possibility of lacking reliability and variable-controlled atmosphere.
Try this with two separate groups of students, then cite it as an example of the failure of a political archetype.
JonathenPetrie 6 months ago
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@JonathenPetrie "was demonized by American Mass Media as torturers and killers"
What a pity. Communists killed 120 mil. people and then they are branded as killers, murderers and terrorists??
Man, life is not fair, not fair.
"capitalism killed more."
Dipshit, no it didnt.
Next patient please!!!
joaquinveyron6 6 months ago
Sure, what you refer to is someone working to be paid by an employer, the employer keeps most of the money and the workers gets some to buy pay their bills. What I mean is that the capitalist employers' objective is to pay at little as possible, to maximize profits, now since the workers don't have any other way to obtain food and housing in a system that always demands money, they have to take up whatever employment they can find, there is never concern about the worker's well being cont-
JeanLouie1106 6 months ago
capitilism is evil and has destroyed the world as we know it
graham640 6 months ago
Capitalism donesn't give you nothing this belief of socialism being bad is crap. I believe our government has a responsibility to look after their own people not the banks or the money p