WHO THE FUCK IS SHE!? WHO THE FUCK.. IS SHE? She's a dumb fucking bitch that's who she is.. learn some fucking love.. and learn who Pagans REALLY are... stupid cunt.
Oh, wow. I had to click on this after watching Quanyin81's video, and I could have sort of understood if she had made the reference in casual conversation in one of those comfy couch settings, but while posing a trivia question? Not only was that way out of line, it was completely unprofessional.
Winston Churchill was a Druid (pagan) and played a huge part in saving Europe from the Nazis. Read some of his quotes. Brilliant person - more intelligent than this pinhead. Pagan religions enjoying a rebirth in Great Britian.
I have never liked Kathy Lee and think we all should think of soemthing interesting especially for Kathy Lee. Any suggestions? Some Root work would be in order after all her comment was religious discrimination . Paganism is protected under the 1St amendment freedom of speach the Also under freedom of Religion. It is not the worl according to Kathy Lee. After All even Regis tired of her. Remeber?
AtrumTentatio The reason the pagan community got so "pissy" as you say is because, had someone said "Christians, the nasty bad Christians" on live tv they would have been fired from the station, and probably sued for a lot of money. The studio she worked at wasn't going to do anything. The other reason why I personally was pissed was because of her "apology" which she mocked and laughed at. I wrote letters to her studio telling them the apology offended me as it did.
I actually think she was trying to be funny. They show alot of clips of hers on Soup and she is always saying stupid crap. I think she is trying too hard to be funny.
I definately think it was something impulsive, I don't think she meant to insult anyone. Maybe if she had been specific about a particular religion it would had been more shoking.
WTF do you mean? Like Kathy Lee is the opposite of Mother Teresa?
Kathy Lee is a conservative judgmental sweet tart, and I have never heard of her comforting lepers or nursing the poor sick. Also, Mother Teresa would never have sanctioned sweat shops in her name.
i am pagan and i am disgusted by this... some people should not be allowed to ever open their mouths and speak if the only things that come out are stupidity and ignorance...
Not only do the wedding bands come from the Greek Pagan beliefs but the band is placed on the left hand "ring finger",because it was believed the vein in that finger leads directly to the heart. Thus, the ring banding about that heart flow, kept the spouse (initially the woman/wife only), faithfully bound to her husband.
Consider the source for this ignorant pagan slam. KLG remains married to an adulterer because her Fundy Xtian faith precludes self respect & divorce.She's a proud bigot!
Is there any more proof needed in order to proclaim Kathy Lee one of the great intellectual lights of our, or any other age? I think not! Kathy Lee thy words are as golden droplets from the sun!
Don't worry...the nasty bad pagans of our day and age will get her with bad nasty incense, cheesy protective spells, fluffy chants, new-age style reiki and herbal medicines! Beware! The fluffy bunnies are coming!
Granted, Iron Age pagans aren't always as inoffensive as the current varieties are. She probably just didn't know any better. She would have pagan ancestors herself so the Iron Age variety she's talking about apply as much to her as any one else.
I seen this video about 1 hour after this was cast out. One of my Internet Wicca freinds told me about it, I went straight to the Interent and so the whole thing. Even now, I still shocked of what she said. IN LIVE TV!
omg. this is just terrible. what if she had said "nasty bad Catholics" or "nasty bad jews"? She'd be fired. BUT, because she says "pagans" - oh, i guess its all okay. sigh.
Please be sure to email msnbc about this and maybe we can get the apology we deserve. I respect all religions but I will not put up with someone disrespecting others religion be it Pagan, Christian, Muslim, Jew Buddhist etc... No has that right.
There are many cultures, religions, civilizations etc ..that have been subdued, overpowered or destroyed. It's human nature spanning our entire existence. Can we overcome that?...now that's something to blog about.
Why doesn't everyone send her a huge gift basket with a kind message? :)
I agree 100% with ggmontana. I am offended by Gifford's words, and am outraged that it is socially acceptable to refer to pagans as "nasty" and "ugly". Imagine if she had called Muslims, African-Americans, or the gay community "nasty" and "ugly". She would have lost her job and been forced to make a public real apology (not that half-assed one where she didn't even name the community she offended). Blessed Be
I'm offended by Ms. Gifford's remarks. I don't consider myself nasty, ugly etc. I am a grateful Pagan mother of 4, grandmother of 8, fostermothered 20+ and animalmom to too many to count. I respect the beliefs of others regardless of my ability to understand them. Because of my Pagan beliefs, I wish to send Ms. Gifford nothing but love and positive energy. Karma and the Universe will step in to teach her the lessons she needs to learn from this life. Blessed be.
I personally don't care what she's saying. Because I don't take my social cues from her. And I think it just shows what a retard she is, just like the rest of the talking heads are.
Most Christian holidays have pagan origins or influences. It was a marketing strategy of the early Christian church to take over the dates and plenty of the customs. I wonder how she feels about Easter! Whenever friends told my non-Christian family they couldn't celebrate Christmas or Easter, my parents would just go "Haaa-haaa!".
PS...many peoples (!) wear their wedding bands on the right hand. That tidbit of history is a little bit more complicated too.
Just who is nasty and bad? She broke up her husband's marrage. She had an affair with him while he was married and had children. She made him abandon his children and sick wife. Just how many nasty bad things has she kept under wraps? I also know she didn't care her clothing line took advantage child slave labor. Again, just who is NASTY???
Why is she even still on television? Her fifteen minutes ended a LONG, LONG time ago. I wonder who she had to sleep with to get herself back onscreen.
Intolerant and ignorant people say intolerant ignorant things, so I suppose it is no surprise from that angle. No one really takes her seriously, anyway. I just wish she wasn't still nationally televised.
Kathy Lee lost all of my respect, not that she ever had any. How does this woman stay on the air? I am a pagan and an aspiring actor, I wanna know who she's sleeping with, cause if he can keep her with a job...He could get me a job. This ignorant woman should go to one of our festivals and see how "nasty" and "bad" we are. I am sure she would be surprised.
nasty bad Pagans? yeah...nasty and bad. which totally explains why Christianity took 95 percent of Pagan beliefs, traditions, and holidays and twisted them to fit a more "moral" standard.
nasty, bad Pagans indeed -_- fuck you, Kathy Lee. get a job that doesn't require plastic tits...or a plastic smile.
What a bigot! She should be sanctioned for this. Fined $1 million for showing her inner twit. This is one more reason to call for a "C Chip" so we can censor xtians the way they want to censor other programs!
Of course nobody is going to care about her making comments about us because we're "devil worshippers," remember? If she had've called some Christians "those nasty, bad Christians" you would've seen an uproar. Bullshit, in a nutshell.
As a PROUD PAGAN and one that practices religous tolerance (like most Pagans do), I am sickened by her religion bashing! If someone of her "clout" would have said that about Christianity or any other mainstream religion, they would be strung-up by their short hairs and fired! I demand an appology be presented NATIONALLY! Pagans have a hard enough time breaking through the stereotypes and foolish ideologies of the misinformed without her being allowed to get away with fueling the fire!
I really wonder if she meant to be slanderous. She may have been trying to be sarcastic to the haters who would judge Pagans. No different maybe than someone saying "big, bad far left liberal" when countering a Bill o'Riley type of view point. As a Pagan, this doesn't seem to be a battle to fight.
I admit perhaps it was hyperbole when she said it, but if she'd said "the nasty bad muslims" NBC would be flying around apologizing and dodging law suits. Say what you want in your living room, but in jest or not, it's not a real smart thing to say on television.
You all do know that Mrs. Gifford was born into a Jewish Household right? She was born Kathie Lee Epstein. She bacame a born again christian later in her life AND became an Anit-Semite along with her "Love for Jesus". Hey Kathie! I got news for ya! JESUS IS A JEW YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP!
Some of the most intolerant and ignorant people I've met are Christians. Don't get your panties in a bunch now, I'm not generalising here, just making an observation. :)
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Ye Gods! Wake UP, people... not only is she NOT talking about modern paganism, as the previous poster notes... but she's NOT EVEN SERIOUS!!! The tone of her voice is JOKING. She is making FUN of the "bad, nasty" characterization. Hel-LO! Coffee, anyone???
I don't separate myself from 'old' paganism, and it doesn't matter. If a pagan child hears that, they are going to take it as it is, just as I think it was meant.
That may be true, but what kind of hell would break loose if she said "those nasty bad christians?" Or nasty bad jesus lovers? The Shit would hit the fan!!!!
That woman is beyond ignorant and doesn't really deserve much attention. Money talks over here and I, for one, intend to let my ,money do the talking by letting her sponsors know that I WILL NOT buy any of the products that she advertises.
:sigh: It's like every single person would rather spew hateful words rather then sit down and read a book. Easter and Christmas...both stem from major Pagan holidays. Love thy religion. But don't bash mine. So let's all smile, nod and hope that somewhere, in some time...poor, old Kathy learns to watch her language. And tsk-tsk on the networks for even putting that option up there. If I don't say mean things of you, don't say such to me.
Is it that a) she's full of hate for anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as their lord and savior? B) she lives under a rock and doesn't understand that comments like that tend to get you in a world of shit? Or is it c) The Christian fundamentalists -- the nasty, bad Christian fundamentalists -- are largely unaware that people called "pagans" are still around?
I have never been a Kathy Lee fan, but that is neither here nor there. I think its obvious that she doesnt have knowledge regarding the Pagan religion. We all know Christianity stems from Paganism.
I will not sit here and "bash" Kathy Lee, as I myself am Pagan and proud. I only hope that she has the courtesy to make a public appology to those of us that she offended.
Because I am a sweet loving pagan I am going to take the time to bless you in your life.. may you only know happiness and love :) :) I am so sorry that you are ignorant but perhaps the universe will give you the tools to overcome it
Which of the descriptive words from the source you quoted denotes "bad" or "nasty"? I am pretty sure it is not spiritualist. Perhaps you misread animistic for animalistic? If it is shamanic then you would probably NOT want to address a gathering of Native Americans any time soon. If it was the reference to any folk religion, maybe you should check into your own genealogy to see what religions your ancestors practiced. The MAJORITY of pagans are sweet, loving, kind, good people.
Why even include "option 3" as a possible answer? Unless you are looking for a way to make a "bad nasty" comment about a people and belief system that Christianity has been actively and violently trying to wipe out as being a competitor for peoples souls. Talk about a hostile takeover. Those kinds of comments only serve to fuel the hatred that is already extant concerning beliefs that many have roots in but know nothing about. That KLG is an idiot is sad, what's sadder is that she is not alone.
...and sure I get that the tone of her voice suggests that she was "trying" to make a joke, since she knows full well that many of her viewers are 'mainstream' - however I agree that such a comment would not 'fly' with any other cultural group. The 'answer' was ridiculous anyway and she knew that it was wrong (since when did 'pagans' believe it to be bad luck to wear metal on their right side). Besides the 'celebs' just mouth the words of the script writers, she gets credit for choosing poorly.
Seconded. It's not so much about "I'm personally offended", it's more "we're a legitimate group, we need to let people know that we're here and we're not going to stand for crap like this".
I'd like an on-air apology, personally. Joke or not, it's incredibly bad form.
this woman is so full of "gaa gaa" it's not funny. if she had even HALF OF A BRAIN, she would know that Pagans carry different metals all the time as they each have different magickal properties. LEAD TO GOLD!
Pagan is pre-Christian and not anti-Christian. Kathie Lee is either ignorant of the true meaning of a Pagan or just too damn stupid to grasp the concept.
Also remember Egyptians were also pagan as well as all of our distant ancestors as Christianity was build and heavily influenced by pagan beliefs if you doubly just look at our holidays every one is based on pagan holidays
I kept thinking that too - is she so stupid that she doesn't realize that the Egyptians were pagan? lol She's just uninformed. Why do we even listen to people so........dumb? Well, I don't. And I'm certainly not GOING to either.
I'm neither Pagan nor Christian, but I am disgusted by Ms Gifford's heartless religious slur. Her callous statement reveals her inner-bigotry towards the religious beliefs of Pagans everywhere. This is simply shameful behavior that deserves a public apology by her and an official reprimand or better yet firing by NBC.
How ignorant on so many levels. "Pagans" are not a single religion, but many and varied, from different cultures and countries. Just for starters. ~Li
I read some of your comments on your YouTube page. It looks like we also share an intolerance for "stupidity" as well. Actually, my legal name is "Lee Lewis," but I am Cherokee and more often use the Cherokee spelling "Li Luyi" when writing with Roman letters. (Everyone thinks its Chinese, but that's another story!). Oh- Loved your Lion King Ladies! Well done! ~Li
Screw that ignorant bible thumper. Never going to watch her show.
XenaAmazon 2 weeks ago
Why...just why...
stars11234 1 month ago
WHO THE FUCK IS SHE!? WHO THE FUCK.. IS SHE? She's a dumb fucking bitch that's who she is.. learn some fucking love.. and learn who Pagans REALLY are... stupid cunt.
Luaxen 1 month ago
Blonde moment, much?
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Digikitty21 4 months ago
I've no idea who this woman is, but she doesn't seem very bright
MentalBadger 6 months ago
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DinTaer 9 months ago
kathy and every one like her need s to shut their mouth and quit making stupid comment's like an idiot.
kirkconway 9 months ago
hey!!!! shut up you relize how bad this makes you look!
quinton50h 10 months ago
Oh, wow. I had to click on this after watching Quanyin81's video, and I could have sort of understood if she had made the reference in casual conversation in one of those comfy couch settings, but while posing a trivia question? Not only was that way out of line, it was completely unprofessional.
PerianArdocyl 1 year ago
Winston Churchill was a Druid (pagan) and played a huge part in saving Europe from the Nazis. Read some of his quotes. Brilliant person - more intelligent than this pinhead. Pagan religions enjoying a rebirth in Great Britian.
jc7622 1 year ago
kathy lee griffin, C U Next Tuesday!
thebigskynow 1 year ago
What?!!
foxyterradon 1 year ago
She is such a phony, attention-whoring motormouth cunt. Why doesn't she crawl back under her rock already, the entire world is sick of her.
electricalsemen 1 year ago
@electricalsemen ...yeah, but I would still bang the shit outta her!
searayus1 1 year ago
Seriously Kathy....WTF????
wayne99fan 1 year ago
I have never liked Kathy Lee and think we all should think of soemthing interesting especially for Kathy Lee. Any suggestions? Some Root work would be in order after all her comment was religious discrimination . Paganism is protected under the 1St amendment freedom of speach the Also under freedom of Religion. It is not the worl according to Kathy Lee. After All even Regis tired of her. Remeber?
pinky9150 1 year ago
That is just pure ignorance on her part. Many of the traditions that Christians follow today came from the Pagans! LOL
daligoddess2006 1 year ago
@Oreceo lol, mental capacity of a stone is a bit bigger I bet. ;) lol
peaceandloveinaction 1 year ago
lol what an idiot, I'm guessing she got her refereneces about Pagans from the fucking Wizard of Oz or maybe Fox New...?? O.o
peaceandloveinaction 1 year ago
typical empty headed ignorant yank
MentalBadger 2 years ago
Um Wow. So, she used to have sweat shops produce her products and now she's calling pagan's "bad" and "nasty?"
What an idiot! Those with glass reputations really shouldn't throw stones
CountKleinmeyer 2 years ago
shes a fucking idiot. her "apology" was shit.
AnyaPagan 2 years ago
I doubt Kathy Lee Gifford even knows what a pagan is.
The woman is so stupid.
Glad Regis got rid of her and replaced her with Kelly.
Kathy's braincells all died.
ElectricShark 2 years ago
Kathy Lee Gifford is a decent person. Stop the hatred.
lildude77504 2 years ago
That whore is such a drunk.
Nasty, bad Pagans?
How about Drunken Christian Whore? Is that okay? Yeah. Boosh.
KolikaLove 2 years ago 7
@KolikaLove XD
peaceandloveinaction 1 year ago
that bitch.
MsYogawolf 2 years ago
@MsYogawolf Well said
peaceandloveinaction 1 year ago
Nasty pagans? oh. I wasn't aware.... I'm pretty sure I'm not nasty, or bad... :(
mikeness31091 2 years ago 5
Slave labor using idiot.
Drakelah 2 years ago
AtrumTentatio The reason the pagan community got so "pissy" as you say is because, had someone said "Christians, the nasty bad Christians" on live tv they would have been fired from the station, and probably sued for a lot of money. The studio she worked at wasn't going to do anything. The other reason why I personally was pissed was because of her "apology" which she mocked and laughed at. I wrote letters to her studio telling them the apology offended me as it did.
KingMKLA 2 years ago 3
I don't see why people got so pissy about this... She didn't sound like she really hates pagans or anyhing serious. Lame.
AtrumTentatio 2 years ago
News flash Kathiy-wearing a wedding ring is pagan! So you are being a pagan by wearing one, right?!?
DigitalPraise7 2 years ago 3
Wow. She is very ignorant. I pity her.
kinetichearts 2 years ago 13
She can kiss my toosh :P I'm glad Kelly Ripa replaced her with Regis :P
quest4neverland 2 years ago 2
Why would I care what that idiot (Kathy Lee) thinks about anything????
sddesigner 3 years ago
This is a secular country, which makes us one of the most free and tolerating. She is an obvious dolt.
coolassmofo 3 years ago
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she is right, pagans suck ass.
cenahater5001 3 years ago
She's an ignorant slut!
93Nuit93 3 years ago 13
Haha. Egyptians were pretty much Pagan. Smart stuff.
KandiJadeOfficial 3 years ago 5
That's what I was thinking. :P So were they nasty bad Egyptians? This woman is a bit of an idiot.
FinlayO 2 years ago
Kathy Lee - you stupid biatch...
sheilab26 3 years ago 2
I actually think she was trying to be funny. They show alot of clips of hers on Soup and she is always saying stupid crap. I think she is trying too hard to be funny.
harry911tk 3 years ago 3
I definately think it was something impulsive, I don't think she meant to insult anyone. Maybe if she had been specific about a particular religion it would had been more shoking.
harry911tk 3 years ago
What do you expect from a born again Christian other than complete and total ignorance???
hiwaymanx 3 years ago 5
Exactly!!!
Enlightenment85 2 years ago
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Kathy Lee is comparable to Mother Theresa...way to go Kathy !
brandynne 3 years ago
WTF do you mean? Like Kathy Lee is the opposite of Mother Teresa?
Kathy Lee is a conservative judgmental sweet tart, and I have never heard of her comforting lepers or nursing the poor sick. Also, Mother Teresa would never have sanctioned sweat shops in her name.
I can't help but think that you're joking.
astrealove 3 years ago 2
That judgmental little barbie doll!!!!!
victoriasparda 3 years ago 3
Ummm...technically the ancient Egyptians were pagans, so both Kathy Lee and the question are chock full of FAIL.
mdcrews 3 years ago 7
i am pagan and i am disgusted by this... some people should not be allowed to ever open their mouths and speak if the only things that come out are stupidity and ignorance...
sad...
t0shie 3 years ago 4
I'm Pagan too, and Kathy Lee is just a loudmouthed fame mongering thing, and besides, what does she even know about Pagans?Probably nothing...
Ravisante5000 3 years ago 6
Not only do the wedding bands come from the Greek Pagan beliefs but the band is placed on the left hand "ring finger",because it was believed the vein in that finger leads directly to the heart. Thus, the ring banding about that heart flow, kept the spouse (initially the woman/wife only), faithfully bound to her husband.
Consider the source for this ignorant pagan slam. KLG remains married to an adulterer because her Fundy Xtian faith precludes self respect & divorce.She's a proud bigot!
fuzzygoddess 3 years ago
Well, after insulting Pagans, she got it wrong!
Wedding bands come from the Greek Pagan belief in the bondage of Prometheus.
Any historian will verify that.
Kathy Lee is ignorant.
informatist 3 years ago 5
Kathy Lee Gifford is a worthless piece of shit worthy of death. She serves no purpose.
killahead 3 years ago
What a fucking bubble head.
magicpet 3 years ago
kathy is a cunt i cant stand her
ladysnowladyd 3 years ago
I feel sorry for Kathy Lee. Imagine being on TV everyday and having to fake EVERYTHING.
flame2hi 3 years ago
All religions are imaginary. Don't run with scissors kids!
Darrylizer1 3 years ago
Is there any more proof needed in order to proclaim Kathy Lee one of the great intellectual lights of our, or any other age? I think not! Kathy Lee thy words are as golden droplets from the sun!
Darrylizer1 3 years ago
That is too funny!
txguy1980 3 years ago
thats a bit mean!
undertakeauthority 3 years ago
I wonder if people would be as shocked if a pagan said the same regarding someone of a religious faith.
brandynne 3 years ago
Don't worry...the nasty bad pagans of our day and age will get her with bad nasty incense, cheesy protective spells, fluffy chants, new-age style reiki and herbal medicines! Beware! The fluffy bunnies are coming!
Granted, Iron Age pagans aren't always as inoffensive as the current varieties are. She probably just didn't know any better. She would have pagan ancestors herself so the Iron Age variety she's talking about apply as much to her as any one else.
VaultCult 3 years ago
I seen this video about 1 hour after this was cast out. One of my Internet Wicca freinds told me about it, I went straight to the Interent and so the whole thing. Even now, I still shocked of what she said. IN LIVE TV!
FireChildSlytherin5 3 years ago 2
omg. this is just terrible. what if she had said "nasty bad Catholics" or "nasty bad jews"? She'd be fired. BUT, because she says "pagans" - oh, i guess its all okay. sigh.
katrinaro 3 years ago 2
Way to go Kathy, your awesome as usual !
brandynne 3 years ago
Way to Kathy, your awesome as usual !
brandynne 3 years ago
Idiot Kathy Lee.
trimby73 3 years ago
HATE her...always have. Now even more.
Cthulhuftagn 3 years ago
Please be sure to email msnbc about this and maybe we can get the apology we deserve. I respect all religions but I will not put up with someone disrespecting others religion be it Pagan, Christian, Muslim, Jew Buddhist etc... No has that right.
Blessed BE
nmaye 3 years ago
pagans are awesome!
kitkel4 3 years ago
Well, there are a lot who are very unfriendly. I just lovingly refer to them as "those crazy pagans". They do know how to party. :)
sensorburn 3 years ago
there is a lot of very unfriendly catholics too just look at hitler and all the nazi's
FantomL0rd 3 years ago
There are many cultures, religions, civilizations etc ..that have been subdued, overpowered or destroyed. It's human nature spanning our entire existence. Can we overcome that?...now that's something to blog about.
Why doesn't everyone send her a huge gift basket with a kind message? :)
sensorburn 3 years ago
she is ignorant
she needs to apoligize to the pagan community
punx4life1313 3 years ago 2
why the hell did she adlib that garbage? how ignorant of her.
MYPerspective 3 years ago
Yet another embarrassment for America. Happy 4th of July!
keuch2 3 years ago
I agree 100% with ggmontana. I am offended by Gifford's words, and am outraged that it is socially acceptable to refer to pagans as "nasty" and "ugly". Imagine if she had called Muslims, African-Americans, or the gay community "nasty" and "ugly". She would have lost her job and been forced to make a public real apology (not that half-assed one where she didn't even name the community she offended). Blessed Be
ElfinMoon 3 years ago
I agree!
ktboo0702 3 years ago
I don't think she was thinking clearly about it. She was trying to be entertaining and was probably distracted, which isn't an excuse, obviously.
It was rude of her, but I'm not all up in arms about it because it wasn't malicious, she's just ignorant.
Raphaeline 3 years ago
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all of you petitionfags....you are the cancer that is killing the neopagan movement.
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blackwaterpark108 3 years ago
I'm offended by Ms. Gifford's remarks. I don't consider myself nasty, ugly etc. I am a grateful Pagan mother of 4, grandmother of 8, fostermothered 20+ and animalmom to too many to count. I respect the beliefs of others regardless of my ability to understand them. Because of my Pagan beliefs, I wish to send Ms. Gifford nothing but love and positive energy. Karma and the Universe will step in to teach her the lessons she needs to learn from this life. Blessed be.
ggmontana 3 years ago 3
that stupid fuckiong bitch needs to go fuck herself and astop offending billions of people!
[pagans are also people who aint christain [[[half the world]]]]
yoprettylilmamma 3 years ago
nasty? nasty pagans? ugh. what a dumb bitch. go do some fucking research
Demialia 3 years ago
There's a petition for those offended. If you google "kathy lee pagan petition" it's not hard to find.
The person that put this clip up also put Kathie Lee's mocking apology up.
I find her apology far more offensive than her nasty comments.
jondough9 3 years ago
Poor ignorant woman!
TammyM1212 3 years ago
Kathy is a bitch. Get her off TV~!!!
LordVapor 3 years ago 2
I think she was being sarcastic.
bernadetterose18 3 years ago
lol what a cunt
now i wish Mr. Garrison shot her
mikeeboi1029 3 years ago
She's an attention starved puppet. She has no idea what she is saying.
froggyola 3 years ago
I agree with XChildeofMalkavX, on the "What a bitch" comment. She is an old sweat shop owning whore.
thekahnefreak 3 years ago
I personally don't care what she's saying. Because I don't take my social cues from her. And I think it just shows what a retard she is, just like the rest of the talking heads are.
tallicdeth 3 years ago
Most Christian holidays have pagan origins or influences. It was a marketing strategy of the early Christian church to take over the dates and plenty of the customs. I wonder how she feels about Easter! Whenever friends told my non-Christian family they couldn't celebrate Christmas or Easter, my parents would just go "Haaa-haaa!".
PS...many peoples (!) wear their wedding bands on the right hand. That tidbit of history is a little bit more complicated too.
Kantorkanov 3 years ago 2
What a bitch, very closed minded of her.
XChildeofMalkavX 3 years ago
Just who is nasty and bad? She broke up her husband's marrage. She had an affair with him while he was married and had children. She made him abandon his children and sick wife. Just how many nasty bad things has she kept under wraps? I also know she didn't care her clothing line took advantage child slave labor. Again, just who is NASTY???
Mysticblue1212 3 years ago
My FCC complaint number is 08-C00032517.
skullaria 3 years ago
Why is she even still on television? Her fifteen minutes ended a LONG, LONG time ago. I wonder who she had to sleep with to get herself back onscreen.
Intolerant and ignorant people say intolerant ignorant things, so I suppose it is no surprise from that angle. No one really takes her seriously, anyway. I just wish she wasn't still nationally televised.
concretedoll107 3 years ago
i dont honestly think she knew what she was saying when she opened her mouth. now its gonna bite her in the ass.
78dodgegirl 3 years ago
As a Pagan, I must say FUCK YOU KATHY!
lordofdarium 3 years ago
This just proves...that no matter how "famous" you are or how much money you have....you can still be IGNORANT!...
koolbandmom 3 years ago 2
she is continuing her moronic ignorance from the days when she used to run sweat shops. Can you believe they put this dimwit back on TV?
hercules7777 3 years ago
Well, she is a complete twit. Can't expect much more from someone is a brainwashed moron.
moiraesfate 3 years ago
What do expect from her. She has always acted as a uppidy bitch, with a closed mind.
finsterthecat 3 years ago 2
Kathy Lee lost all of my respect, not that she ever had any. How does this woman stay on the air? I am a pagan and an aspiring actor, I wanna know who she's sleeping with, cause if he can keep her with a job...He could get me a job. This ignorant woman should go to one of our festivals and see how "nasty" and "bad" we are. I am sure she would be surprised.
KingMKLA 3 years ago 4
Wow, what an ignorant bitch. Someone please punch her.
kosiima 3 years ago
wow. if that wasnt just plain rude. I hope she atleast get a hefty fine for her epic moment of stupidity.
paganfire2012 3 years ago 3
nasty bad Pagans? yeah...nasty and bad. which totally explains why Christianity took 95 percent of Pagan beliefs, traditions, and holidays and twisted them to fit a more "moral" standard.
nasty, bad Pagans indeed -_- fuck you, Kathy Lee. get a job that doesn't require plastic tits...or a plastic smile.
xxChaoticPeacexx 3 years ago 4
What the hell is her problem with Pagans? I think she's bleached her hair one too many times in her life. DITZO!
Faeryanne 3 years ago 3
Geez, she's a jerk. What is wrong with her?
fiyahspinnah 3 years ago
What a bigot! She should be sanctioned for this. Fined $1 million for showing her inner twit. This is one more reason to call for a "C Chip" so we can censor xtians the way they want to censor other programs!
variegatedaries 3 years ago
Nasty, bad Kathie Lee
dottye78 3 years ago 4
Of course nobody is going to care about her making comments about us because we're "devil worshippers," remember? If she had've called some Christians "those nasty, bad Christians" you would've seen an uproar. Bullshit, in a nutshell.
DarkFireLily 3 years ago 4
As a PROUD PAGAN and one that practices religous tolerance (like most Pagans do), I am sickened by her religion bashing! If someone of her "clout" would have said that about Christianity or any other mainstream religion, they would be strung-up by their short hairs and fired! I demand an appology be presented NATIONALLY! Pagans have a hard enough time breaking through the stereotypes and foolish ideologies of the misinformed without her being allowed to get away with fueling the fire!
tattoomw 3 years ago
Don't give this woman any attention. She is a slave to corporate America and should be pitied.
froggyola 3 years ago
I really wonder if she meant to be slanderous. She may have been trying to be sarcastic to the haters who would judge Pagans. No different maybe than someone saying "big, bad far left liberal" when countering a Bill o'Riley type of view point. As a Pagan, this doesn't seem to be a battle to fight.
maulhoik 3 years ago
I admit perhaps it was hyperbole when she said it, but if she'd said "the nasty bad muslims" NBC would be flying around apologizing and dodging law suits. Say what you want in your living room, but in jest or not, it's not a real smart thing to say on television.
lemonchicken41 3 years ago
ahhhh CRUD! I spelled Anti-Semite wrong!
MasterVondasLilCat 3 years ago
You all do know that Mrs. Gifford was born into a Jewish Household right? She was born Kathie Lee Epstein. She bacame a born again christian later in her life AND became an Anit-Semite along with her "Love for Jesus". Hey Kathie! I got news for ya! JESUS IS A JEW YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP!
MasterVondasLilCat 3 years ago 2
I dEMAND AN aPOLOGY
VenusSatanas 3 years ago
She definitely should make a public apology.
skullaria 3 years ago
Some of the most intolerant and ignorant people I've met are Christians. Don't get your panties in a bunch now, I'm not generalising here, just making an observation. :)
ballebanan 3 years ago 2
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Ye Gods! Wake UP, people... not only is she NOT talking about modern paganism, as the previous poster notes... but she's NOT EVEN SERIOUS!!! The tone of her voice is JOKING. She is making FUN of the "bad, nasty" characterization. Hel-LO! Coffee, anyone???
valorarete 3 years ago
I don't separate myself from 'old' paganism, and it doesn't matter. If a pagan child hears that, they are going to take it as it is, just as I think it was meant.
skullaria 3 years ago 2
heh id like to characterize her faith and tradition over a cup of coffee and a few jokes too.
VenusSatanas 3 years ago
joke or not, she must be pretty ignorant to think that no one's gonna get offended...
t0shie 3 years ago 5
For crying out loud she's not even talking about modern paganism. Lighten up people.
DanStauffer 3 years ago
That may be true, but what kind of hell would break loose if she said "those nasty bad christians?" Or nasty bad jesus lovers? The Shit would hit the fan!!!!
moonravenstrunk 3 years ago 3
ITA with you on that!
hbp121 3 years ago
Pagan is pagan is pagan and I am pagan.
skullaria 3 years ago 2
agreed
Kawamura2 3 years ago
That woman is beyond ignorant and doesn't really deserve much attention. Money talks over here and I, for one, intend to let my ,money do the talking by letting her sponsors know that I WILL NOT buy any of the products that she advertises.
attuj55 3 years ago 3
:sigh: It's like every single person would rather spew hateful words rather then sit down and read a book. Easter and Christmas...both stem from major Pagan holidays. Love thy religion. But don't bash mine. So let's all smile, nod and hope that somewhere, in some time...poor, old Kathy learns to watch her language. And tsk-tsk on the networks for even putting that option up there. If I don't say mean things of you, don't say such to me.
Misaio 3 years ago 3
Is it that a) she's full of hate for anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as their lord and savior? B) she lives under a rock and doesn't understand that comments like that tend to get you in a world of shit? Or is it c) The Christian fundamentalists -- the nasty, bad Christian fundamentalists -- are largely unaware that people called "pagans" are still around?
JimTS 3 years ago 4
I have never been a Kathy Lee fan, but that is neither here nor there. I think its obvious that she doesnt have knowledge regarding the Pagan religion. We all know Christianity stems from Paganism.
I will not sit here and "bash" Kathy Lee, as I myself am Pagan and proud. I only hope that she has the courtesy to make a public appology to those of us that she offended.
ravenfire1973 3 years ago 5
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Wikipedia quaote on peganisim "has modern connotations of spiritualist, animistic or shamanic practices or beliefs of any folk religion"
So,i dont see the whole fuss, pagans are bad and nasty ....this is a well known fact.Are there any sweet, loving pagans? :-) :-)
75echo 3 years ago
Because I am a sweet loving pagan I am going to take the time to bless you in your life.. may you only know happiness and love :) :) I am so sorry that you are ignorant but perhaps the universe will give you the tools to overcome it
intrigue1813 3 years ago 5
Which of the descriptive words from the source you quoted denotes "bad" or "nasty"? I am pretty sure it is not spiritualist. Perhaps you misread animistic for animalistic? If it is shamanic then you would probably NOT want to address a gathering of Native Americans any time soon. If it was the reference to any folk religion, maybe you should check into your own genealogy to see what religions your ancestors practiced. The MAJORITY of pagans are sweet, loving, kind, good people.
ProudPagan48 3 years ago
yes, many.
Kawamura2 3 years ago 2
Why even include "option 3" as a possible answer? Unless you are looking for a way to make a "bad nasty" comment about a people and belief system that Christianity has been actively and violently trying to wipe out as being a competitor for peoples souls. Talk about a hostile takeover. Those kinds of comments only serve to fuel the hatred that is already extant concerning beliefs that many have roots in but know nothing about. That KLG is an idiot is sad, what's sadder is that she is not alone.
Jaladrian 3 years ago 3
...and sure I get that the tone of her voice suggests that she was "trying" to make a joke, since she knows full well that many of her viewers are 'mainstream' - however I agree that such a comment would not 'fly' with any other cultural group. The 'answer' was ridiculous anyway and she knew that it was wrong (since when did 'pagans' believe it to be bad luck to wear metal on their right side). Besides the 'celebs' just mouth the words of the script writers, she gets credit for choosing poorly.
Jaladrian 3 years ago
Seconded. It's not so much about "I'm personally offended", it's more "we're a legitimate group, we need to let people know that we're here and we're not going to stand for crap like this".
I'd like an on-air apology, personally. Joke or not, it's incredibly bad form.
demonella 3 years ago 4
this woman is so full of "gaa gaa" it's not funny. if she had even HALF OF A BRAIN, she would know that Pagans carry different metals all the time as they each have different magickal properties. LEAD TO GOLD!
jansworld 3 years ago 2
According to her wiki...
She was Anita Bryant's live-in secretary/babysitter.
Her brother, Rev. David Paul Epstein, is an evangelical Baptist preacher and pastor.
Kathie Lee attended Oral Roberts University.
With such strong ties to a religion that's well known for speaking up when slurred in a public forum.....you'ld think she would know better.
jondough9 3 years ago 2
Pagan is pre-Christian and not anti-Christian. Kathie Lee is either ignorant of the true meaning of a Pagan or just too damn stupid to grasp the concept.
Belle021231 3 years ago
It's only proof that the media, who claim to have the scoop on everything, have no fucking clue as to what their ever talking about.
falconskitchen 3 years ago 2
Kathy Lee you don't know what the fuck your talking about you stupid bitch!!!
redquas6920 3 years ago
Also remember Egyptians were also pagan as well as all of our distant ancestors as Christianity was build and heavily influenced by pagan beliefs if you doubly just look at our holidays every one is based on pagan holidays
lilhornygreenguy 3 years ago 3
I kept thinking that too - is she so stupid that she doesn't realize that the Egyptians were pagan? lol She's just uninformed. Why do we even listen to people so........dumb? Well, I don't. And I'm certainly not GOING to either.
skullaria 3 years ago
I Am Pagan And That Really Upset Careless, And Heartless Woman.Karma Kathy Lee Remember Karma
Angitia41 3 years ago 2
I'm neither Pagan nor Christian, but I am disgusted by Ms Gifford's heartless religious slur. Her callous statement reveals her inner-bigotry towards the religious beliefs of Pagans everywhere. This is simply shameful behavior that deserves a public apology by her and an official reprimand or better yet firing by NBC.
bozzutoman 3 years ago 8
How ignorant on so many levels. "Pagans" are not a single religion, but many and varied, from different cultures and countries. Just for starters. ~Li
jubchuqun 3 years ago 5
Woah, my name is spelled that way too. Li... Creepy.
halfmoonhowl 3 years ago 2
I read some of your comments on your YouTube page. It looks like we also share an intolerance for "stupidity" as well. Actually, my legal name is "Lee Lewis," but I am Cherokee and more often use the Cherokee spelling "Li Luyi" when writing with Roman letters. (Everyone thinks its Chinese, but that's another story!). Oh- Loved your Lion King Ladies! Well done! ~Li
jubchuqun 3 years ago
Haha, thanks!
halfmoonhowl 3 years ago
Wow, what an ignorant woman. Sad that in today's world we still have so many closed minded people.
Amandey20 3 years ago 4
How are these comments by Kathy Lee (or Kathie Lee? She's not worth a glance on Wiki) any different than the comments made by Don Imus?
Why hasn't NBC apologized?
pezsez1 3 years ago
Agreed. This is despicable behavior that gets short attention because her slur didn't involve a racial group or a "major" religion.
If she'd said bad nasty jew or mexican... whew... she'd be freakin lambasted.
bozzutoman 3 years ago 3
she was annoying before, now she is offensive.
leapetra 3 years ago 7
"nasty, bad pagans"?! bitch, i just cast a spell at you. enjoy the crotch rot.
lashabane 3 years ago 4
Kathie when will you ever learn - talk about foot in mouth.
TBarrettS 3 years ago 2