I had never seen a boxer more focused than Douglas was against Tyson. He was the man with the plan. No distractions, no detours. I honestly believe he didn't realize who he was in there against!
I hope people realize that Tyson really won that fight.. even without training hard.. go back and watch it. The ref cheated Mike... when Mike knocked douglas down, he counted very slow...douglas had been down for a few seconds but the ref started counting at "2"...then went Tyson got caught..the count was alot quicker.. watch it! Regardless.. Mike shoulda never let his ass hang around in the first place.
@vicevurze When you watch that fight again...and you will...watch Buster's JAB. He put it on Tyson every single time Tyson tried to come inside on him. Douglas created the blueprint for taller heavyweights to follow. Don King couldn't make that 'long count' controversy turn into anything significant-and neither can you. Douglas won that fight. Tyson has said so. Tyson was in the ring with him-you were not!
@asleep909 - Obviously i wasn't in the ring, genius.. but any idiot with eyes and ears can see what happened, many people not just myself feel that Tyson won that fight.- As a warrior, he has to accept the lost which is why "Tyson said so".. - Douglas fought well no doubt but didn't fight a focussed Tyson...hell he barely trained for the damn fight- bottom line the fight could have and should went the other way but the ref was bogus on the count...PERIOD!
@ViceVurze1 I realize that this will also fall under the heading of 'genius level thinking,' but the official record shows that Tyson lost via TKO. So what if Tyson didn't train...history will not relay that in the form of win/loss. No asterisk for that. When you are a champion, and you don't train...most often you get KTFO by someone who is out to prove a point. The 'long count'? how about Tyson getting hit so hard he puts his mouthpiece in SIDEWAYS. I think that was done fighter.
@bobber0623 2 bums? Yeah that's pretty accurate. But Tyson and Lewis "overrated"? They both dominated the heavyweight division in their primes. Sure Tyson had trouble with bigger opponents, but he still ruled the division for years...even from prison. Lewis, aside from 2 fights was the best heavyweight of the '90s. He lost 1 fight in the entire decade! Far far from overrated.
Buster was a good fighter. Could have been elite if he had the heart. Douglas beat some big names in his time. I think he just wanted to hold the Heavyweight title once and he was satisfied.
@edmon91 In mccalls video interview.Mccall isn't mentioning when he quit from a 5 punch tyson body combination attack in early 1988.Mccall quit like a dog.Tyson was so good,mccall couldn't deal with tyson on that night.!Mccall was even wearing body protector!!!!! This video was from a japanese documentary on tyson and youtube took it off about a year ago.tyson was at his best ever and would give lewis and ali fits on that training night he made mccall quit.End of story.
@fadethetrade tyson had everything going around that time,experience,conditioning and enough maturity without the distractions of later that 1988 year that made everything crumble including his technique and how he approached the technique consistant to the style and level of his opponents.He would have been ready for holyfield and lewis in early 1988.
@fadethetrade I don't know. Mike was losing the technical sophistication he had honed from Cus Dmato as he fought one weak challenger after another. He had become a head hunter, and that would not have worked well against Holyfield and Lewis in the late 80's anymore than it would've in the late 90's
@Nominay The technical sophistication as you call it is a combinations of accurate combinations coupled with what the scientific term of muscle fiber twitching. if you look at tysons fights from 86 thru about early 88,you see him constantly doing this twitch in his upper body and head movement.This twitching is a residual effect of his superior muscle fiber twitching(the fast reaction of his brain to tell his arms to throw combinations and they are the fastest in history for a 220+ pounder.
@fadethetrade yeah, I think at one time he was the best boxer in history, and what makes his career a tragic story is this was never proven since the best contenders against him would come later ... perhaps as they should've, but still, fight fans were denied these (forever hypothetical now) state of the art scenarios
@Nominay I believe Tony Tucker that night against tyson,dancing and sticking mike as best he could for 12 rounds,was as good as lewis,holyfield,bowe and foreman.Tucker ko'd a fit douglas already before fighting tyson.,with tysons amazing conditioning that surpassed even holyfield's conditioning,and that most fighters say its the most important thing,tyson was almost unbeatable pound for pound in history,but it only lasted less then 2 yrs.IN that 2 yr period,bowe,holy and lewis lose to tyson
@fadethetrade I agree. Tyson in his prime would never fall victim to the off chance of a KO slug the way Lewis did with McCall and Raham. On the other hand, I think Douglas vs. Tyson was as good as a Lewis vs. Tyson '90. There's that unlikely performance coupled with the unlikely similarity of his physical stats.
@Nominay Who cares about any tyson after 1988.I don't. the rest didnt matter and god forbid compariung the post jail tyson just off from 3 yrs of weightlifting.HMMM. Great way to train for another reign? The worst thing you could do to your boxing ability.Notice tyson couldnt throw combiantions for more then 4 rounds in post jail performances?
@fadethetrade It'd have been more interesting had he not gone to jail, pre '88 performance or not. I'm not of the mind that all because he was no longer the best after 87 as you contend, that he was no longer worth watching or respecting. I like that he dropped Spinks and Carl the falsehood Williams barely into round 1. I like that he was kicking Donovan Ruddick's ass in their first fight and in their second that he broke his jaw. He was still either heavyweight champ or # 1 contender.
@Nominay This allowed him to slip jabs from jabbers,right hands,left hooks and combinations from oppoents.Holmes said in an interview that tysons awkwardness in slipping was superior to anything HE ever faced including spinks! Once tyson abandoned this defensive posture mode and stopped training seriously and fight every 3 months ,quickly the effects were shown and he got stiff,stationary and went for one punch while not caring about getting hit on the way in.The rest was history.
@Nominay All the contenders coming up saw this including Lou Duva.Once tyson struggled badly with bruno in 1989,the first fight without rooney and the first fight that exposed the "new" head hunting tyson,all the others waited on line including foreman! but as the 87 early 88 version,even holyfield said on oprah winfrey that tyson out trained him in the damato days. he was so perfect,nothing would have beaten him even though he went 12 a few times.All those fights,the opponent barely won a round
@Nominay I agree,just watch the bruno fight and compare it with the smith fight. Both were about the same style and strength,look how tyson wins 3 minutes of all12 rounds against bonecrusher smith because,as smith put it,tysons amazing ability to slip punches.He was a master at slipping.Problem was he didnt work smiths body enough in that fight.But in bruno fight 8 months after firing rooney,he walked right into bruno without moving his head and upperbody.Bruno might have ko'd him in the first!
@fadethetrade Never understood the firing Rooney thing. Wasn't Rooney part of dmato's team - wasn't that kind of like firing dmato? Did Tyson really buy into Don King's "Us blacks have to stay together"? I never thought of Tyson as stupid, but some of his decisions leave me scratching my head.
@Nominay Absolutely the main reason,he was a pinhead.When tyson got rid of the "white guys" everything in his life fell apart.His training suffered immensely,his sparring partners were shit after rooney,his trainers didnt know squat about the damato style of defensive first posture ,alwasy moving the head for 12 rounds if needed and punching in combinations from all angles and the left to the body,the 12 hrs a day training,the studying of the opponets tapes,punching in combinations only,etc,etc
@Nominay Rememeber what Bob Arum once said."tyson was only as good as the program he followed".That program was scrapped in a hurry the day after koing spinks.
@fadethetrade not sure why. doesn't seem rational to fix something if it ain't broken. Spinks was played up WAY more than he was as a real opponent. Spinks looked like a featherweight next to Tyson in the ring.
oliver was the most under rated fighter of his generation, my uncle used to spar with him in Texas in the 80's and he said he had the biggest cock he has ever sucked sorry i mean seen.
Get a clue...all sweetfights uploads are intended to serve as a teaser video, they aren't complete because he wants you to click on his website (prominently displayed) to buy the complete fight.
Differece between great fighters and v.good ones are v.good ones usually produce great proformaces only once or twice. Lennox,tyson and holyfield fall into the great catorgery, in my opinion.
ima fan of douglas, just i dnt really like how he hold his left so low i mean lennox does. but.. hes not lennox and i personally think if it wuznt for douglas having it so low holyfield might not have k.o. douglas (at the time that he did) its clear douglas way WAY too open basically asking for that right hand of evander
douglas looked so much better against tyson than he looked here- its easy 2 see now why he was such a huge underdog against tyson... the douglas who faught tyson wouldve given anyone trouble, on that night douglas was a top class heavyweight, shame he couldnt sustain it
@HatmanTV DOuglas looked basically the same.It was tyson who came in weak and not focused on plan B or plan C if needed!And this style could make a smaller guy look pathetic if that smaller guy sits on the outside statioonary and eat jabss and rights all night,as tyson elected to do.
@auspunk79 I agree, Tyson wasn't into it and by watching Buster here, you can see how Tyson's style also fit well with his own. Tyson was a shadow and Buster was primed and gave him his first beating.
but Oliver is the worst boxer ever , when he stared getting emo and crying during rounds against Lewis cant believe Oliver would cry from that beating he got
@blackoil911 You think maybe the drugs had something to do with it? McCall takes massive flush right hands from Lewis and just stands there. That he stands is amazing, McCall might have the greatest chin of all time. Lewis had a huge right hand - ask Tyson, Rahman and Ruddock just to name a few.
@blackoil911 Oliver was on drugs n it made him emotional. He was crying because he said ppl never gave him the credit he deserved and acted like it was a foregone conclusion that he would lose.
I had never seen a boxer more focused than Douglas was against Tyson. He was the man with the plan. No distractions, no detours. I honestly believe he didn't realize who he was in there against!
sdprazak 3 months ago
I've read a few books on Douglas and the guy was loaded with talent - but was incredibly unfocused and lazy.
But when he put everything together, the dude was a heck of a fighter.
I honestly believe that if he had Holyfield's heart, he could have gone down as one of the greatest of all time.
Tall, great jab, great speed, smart,... He could have been a HOFer.
Hank1974 4 months ago 3
What the point of posting the four rounds of this fight? Absolutely nothing of consequence happened here...NOTHING
sonwamac 5 months ago
this is the guy that bashed the living shit out of tyson and made him look like a little girl
thepotatovagina 6 months ago
I hope people realize that Tyson really won that fight.. even without training hard.. go back and watch it. The ref cheated Mike... when Mike knocked douglas down, he counted very slow...douglas had been down for a few seconds but the ref started counting at "2"...then went Tyson got caught..the count was alot quicker.. watch it! Regardless.. Mike shoulda never let his ass hang around in the first place.
vicevurze 6 months ago
@vicevurze When you watch that fight again...and you will...watch Buster's JAB. He put it on Tyson every single time Tyson tried to come inside on him. Douglas created the blueprint for taller heavyweights to follow. Don King couldn't make that 'long count' controversy turn into anything significant-and neither can you. Douglas won that fight. Tyson has said so. Tyson was in the ring with him-you were not!
asleep909 1 month ago
@asleep909 - Obviously i wasn't in the ring, genius.. but any idiot with eyes and ears can see what happened, many people not just myself feel that Tyson won that fight.- As a warrior, he has to accept the lost which is why "Tyson said so".. - Douglas fought well no doubt but didn't fight a focussed Tyson...hell he barely trained for the damn fight- bottom line the fight could have and should went the other way but the ref was bogus on the count...PERIOD!
ViceVurze1 1 month ago
@ViceVurze1 I realize that this will also fall under the heading of 'genius level thinking,' but the official record shows that Tyson lost via TKO. So what if Tyson didn't train...history will not relay that in the form of win/loss. No asterisk for that. When you are a champion, and you don't train...most often you get KTFO by someone who is out to prove a point. The 'long count'? how about Tyson getting hit so hard he puts his mouthpiece in SIDEWAYS. I think that was done fighter.
asleep909 1 month ago
When was this? Never knew these two guys had boxed
fergie974 6 months ago
@fergie974 - wow..u must don't watch boxing
ViceVurze1 1 month ago
Douglas was just a looser who won the jackpot!! cos Tyson thought his name would have do the job
karitakki 6 months ago
douglas was a lazy guy who trained on hamburgers but got serious for the tyson fight.
plonker00765 9 months ago
two bums noted for beating two overated fighters tyson and lewis. Interesting matchup
bobber0623 11 months ago
@bobber0623 2 bums? Yeah that's pretty accurate. But Tyson and Lewis "overrated"? They both dominated the heavyweight division in their primes. Sure Tyson had trouble with bigger opponents, but he still ruled the division for years...even from prison. Lewis, aside from 2 fights was the best heavyweight of the '90s. He lost 1 fight in the entire decade! Far far from overrated.
piercdbruh 11 months ago
Buster was a good fighter. Could have been elite if he had the heart. Douglas beat some big names in his time. I think he just wanted to hold the Heavyweight title once and he was satisfied.
NBAGOATS 1 year ago
sometimes the least dramatic fights are the best. this is one of the more underrated fights I've seen.
Nominay 1 year ago
Douglas KOs Tyson, McCall KOs Lewis, LOL
edmon91 1 year ago
@edmon91 In mccalls video interview.Mccall isn't mentioning when he quit from a 5 punch tyson body combination attack in early 1988.Mccall quit like a dog.Tyson was so good,mccall couldn't deal with tyson on that night.!Mccall was even wearing body protector!!!!! This video was from a japanese documentary on tyson and youtube took it off about a year ago.tyson was at his best ever and would give lewis and ali fits on that training night he made mccall quit.End of story.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@fadethetrade tyson had everything going around that time,experience,conditioning and enough maturity without the distractions of later that 1988 year that made everything crumble including his technique and how he approached the technique consistant to the style and level of his opponents.He would have been ready for holyfield and lewis in early 1988.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@fadethetrade I don't know. Mike was losing the technical sophistication he had honed from Cus Dmato as he fought one weak challenger after another. He had become a head hunter, and that would not have worked well against Holyfield and Lewis in the late 80's anymore than it would've in the late 90's
Nominay 1 year ago
@Nominay The technical sophistication as you call it is a combinations of accurate combinations coupled with what the scientific term of muscle fiber twitching. if you look at tysons fights from 86 thru about early 88,you see him constantly doing this twitch in his upper body and head movement.This twitching is a residual effect of his superior muscle fiber twitching(the fast reaction of his brain to tell his arms to throw combinations and they are the fastest in history for a 220+ pounder.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@fadethetrade yeah, I think at one time he was the best boxer in history, and what makes his career a tragic story is this was never proven since the best contenders against him would come later ... perhaps as they should've, but still, fight fans were denied these (forever hypothetical now) state of the art scenarios
Nominay 1 year ago
@Nominay I believe Tony Tucker that night against tyson,dancing and sticking mike as best he could for 12 rounds,was as good as lewis,holyfield,bowe and foreman.Tucker ko'd a fit douglas already before fighting tyson.,with tysons amazing conditioning that surpassed even holyfield's conditioning,and that most fighters say its the most important thing,tyson was almost unbeatable pound for pound in history,but it only lasted less then 2 yrs.IN that 2 yr period,bowe,holy and lewis lose to tyson
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@fadethetrade I agree. Tyson in his prime would never fall victim to the off chance of a KO slug the way Lewis did with McCall and Raham. On the other hand, I think Douglas vs. Tyson was as good as a Lewis vs. Tyson '90. There's that unlikely performance coupled with the unlikely similarity of his physical stats.
Nominay 1 year ago
@Nominay Who cares about any tyson after 1988.I don't. the rest didnt matter and god forbid compariung the post jail tyson just off from 3 yrs of weightlifting.HMMM. Great way to train for another reign? The worst thing you could do to your boxing ability.Notice tyson couldnt throw combiantions for more then 4 rounds in post jail performances?
fadethetrade 11 months ago
@fadethetrade It'd have been more interesting had he not gone to jail, pre '88 performance or not. I'm not of the mind that all because he was no longer the best after 87 as you contend, that he was no longer worth watching or respecting. I like that he dropped Spinks and Carl the falsehood Williams barely into round 1. I like that he was kicking Donovan Ruddick's ass in their first fight and in their second that he broke his jaw. He was still either heavyweight champ or # 1 contender.
Nominay 11 months ago
@Nominay This allowed him to slip jabs from jabbers,right hands,left hooks and combinations from oppoents.Holmes said in an interview that tysons awkwardness in slipping was superior to anything HE ever faced including spinks! Once tyson abandoned this defensive posture mode and stopped training seriously and fight every 3 months ,quickly the effects were shown and he got stiff,stationary and went for one punch while not caring about getting hit on the way in.The rest was history.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@Nominay All the contenders coming up saw this including Lou Duva.Once tyson struggled badly with bruno in 1989,the first fight without rooney and the first fight that exposed the "new" head hunting tyson,all the others waited on line including foreman! but as the 87 early 88 version,even holyfield said on oprah winfrey that tyson out trained him in the damato days. he was so perfect,nothing would have beaten him even though he went 12 a few times.All those fights,the opponent barely won a round
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@Nominay I agree,just watch the bruno fight and compare it with the smith fight. Both were about the same style and strength,look how tyson wins 3 minutes of all12 rounds against bonecrusher smith because,as smith put it,tysons amazing ability to slip punches.He was a master at slipping.Problem was he didnt work smiths body enough in that fight.But in bruno fight 8 months after firing rooney,he walked right into bruno without moving his head and upperbody.Bruno might have ko'd him in the first!
fadethetrade 11 months ago
@fadethetrade Never understood the firing Rooney thing. Wasn't Rooney part of dmato's team - wasn't that kind of like firing dmato? Did Tyson really buy into Don King's "Us blacks have to stay together"? I never thought of Tyson as stupid, but some of his decisions leave me scratching my head.
Nominay 11 months ago
@Nominay Absolutely the main reason,he was a pinhead.When tyson got rid of the "white guys" everything in his life fell apart.His training suffered immensely,his sparring partners were shit after rooney,his trainers didnt know squat about the damato style of defensive first posture ,alwasy moving the head for 12 rounds if needed and punching in combinations from all angles and the left to the body,the 12 hrs a day training,the studying of the opponets tapes,punching in combinations only,etc,etc
fadethetrade 11 months ago
@Nominay Rememeber what Bob Arum once said."tyson was only as good as the program he followed".That program was scrapped in a hurry the day after koing spinks.
fadethetrade 11 months ago
@fadethetrade not sure why. doesn't seem rational to fix something if it ain't broken. Spinks was played up WAY more than he was as a real opponent. Spinks looked like a featherweight next to Tyson in the ring.
Nominay 11 months ago
oliver was the most under rated fighter of his generation, my uncle used to spar with him in Texas in the 80's and he said he had the biggest cock he has ever sucked sorry i mean seen.
gapmanreturns 1 year ago
With the exception of Holmes and Foreman, McColl had one of the best chins in
boxing.He took Lennox Lewis' best right hook and did'nt flinch in fight two.Shame
what Depression,Drugs,and Don King will do to a man!
AnnaAnnaYes 1 year ago
another idiot referee
flouflis1a 1 year ago
Get a clue...all sweetfights uploads are intended to serve as a teaser video, they aren't complete because he wants you to click on his website (prominently displayed) to buy the complete fight.
fightnatic 1 year ago
@fightnatic why would anyone buy this fight when you can get fights for free online
hoodtop 1 year ago
Another two great boxing champions at heavy weight.
jason louis-fernand.
TheMakeover2010 1 year ago
I think oliver were the better of the two on the night.
TheMakeover2010 1 year ago
Just to think, if this version of Oliver McCall was around today, he'd be undisputed World Heavyweight Boxing Champion. No doubt!
Platinummxi 1 year ago
why don't you all stop dissing mc call he was a good fighter and was among the two fighters to beat lennox lewis
MrIronval 1 year ago
McCall has never been down. hes been it with big punchers!
OHNSTAD85 2 years ago
Does anybody know the real story of what happen when he went nuts?
TheMaximumLife 2 years ago
@TheMaximumLife yeah... mccall love cocaine and crack....
preoxwhygen2007 1 year ago
03:11
Why can't we see 'Angela', she's probably far more appealing than this fight :)
Panthera0nca 2 years ago
Differece between great fighters and v.good ones are v.good ones usually produce great proformaces only once or twice. Lennox,tyson and holyfield fall into the great catorgery, in my opinion.
mazbalboa 2 years ago
ima fan of douglas, just i dnt really like how he hold his left so low i mean lennox does. but.. hes not lennox and i personally think if it wuznt for douglas having it so low holyfield might not have k.o. douglas (at the time that he did) its clear douglas way WAY too open basically asking for that right hand of evander
WIDEuni00 2 years ago
@WIDEuni00 douglas was good...even great wen you look at his skill set....but the word loves heavieweights with muscular builds!!
FederalTracks 1 year ago
douglas looked so much better against tyson than he looked here- its easy 2 see now why he was such a huge underdog against tyson... the douglas who faught tyson wouldve given anyone trouble, on that night douglas was a top class heavyweight, shame he couldnt sustain it
HatmanTV 2 years ago 14
@HatmanTV DOuglas looked basically the same.It was tyson who came in weak and not focused on plan B or plan C if needed!And this style could make a smaller guy look pathetic if that smaller guy sits on the outside statioonary and eat jabss and rights all night,as tyson elected to do.
fadethetrade 11 months ago
@HatmanTV well put!
unf016 10 months ago
@HatmanTV He never trained and never had motivation.....the Tyson fight was the first and only time he was in shape and motivated.
KHayes666 9 months ago
@HatmanTV Fucking oath mate, I agree. The Douglas that fought Tyson was fast, slick & had firepower that would have hurt most heavyweights.
auspunk79 7 months ago
@auspunk79 I agree, Tyson wasn't into it and by watching Buster here, you can see how Tyson's style also fit well with his own. Tyson was a shadow and Buster was primed and gave him his first beating.
blite13 6 months ago
Great fight, thanks for putting it up! :)
izzoe3 2 years ago 5
@izzoe3
my pleasure
sweetfights 1 year ago
@sweetfights McCall is a very physically tough fighter...Iron chin
djk28161 7 months ago
@djk28161
nooffence to what you said
but Oliver is the worst boxer ever , when he stared getting emo and crying during rounds against Lewis cant believe Oliver would cry from that beating he got
blackoil911 6 months ago
@blackoil911 You think maybe the drugs had something to do with it? McCall takes massive flush right hands from Lewis and just stands there. That he stands is amazing, McCall might have the greatest chin of all time. Lewis had a huge right hand - ask Tyson, Rahman and Ruddock just to name a few.
sopheven 4 months ago
@sopheven
no man ,i can tell its just obvious,
he was taking way too many punches this time around .... Lewis was way to careful and Oliver knew it
in a way oliver was crying becuz he just couldnt get lewis and was getting fucked over
lewis basically ended olivers career in a bad way
blackoil911 4 months ago
@blackoil911 Oliver was on drugs n it made him emotional. He was crying because he said ppl never gave him the credit he deserved and acted like it was a foregone conclusion that he would lose.
NextWorldApparel 4 months ago
Douglas sure does love to lead with that uppercut from the outside.
I wonder if Evanders sitting there thinking "I'll have a RH waiting if he tries that on me"
PascalsWager5 2 years ago 2
@PascalsWager5 buster was a beutiful boxer .....not a champs upbinging thow!!
feddei111 2 years ago
PascalsWager5
...but Evander never got any credit for that win, Douglas is at a very similar weight to that night here.
Panthera0nca 2 years ago
@Panthera0nca It's more physique than weight i.e. muscle to fat ratio.
capablemachine 1 year ago
the biggest underdogs possibly in heavyweight history, thanks for the great fight.
mcsmoothstyle 2 years ago