A very loud (and very slippery) Duke of Gloucester lol I've seen the sister to this engine, 70013 'Oliver Cromwell' I've seen that one slip a few times. In some cases very badly. It did when it pulled the Duchy last year with Black 5 No.44871. I've still yet to see this engine yet it has been planned to come down before but was changed last minute which is a shame because i'd really like to see this engine. On one of my vid's i've got 60163 'Tornado' slipping quite badly whilst leaving plymouth
@whitewingsrich Hate to correct you, but Oliver Cromwell is not this loco's sister engine. It's a BR Standard Class 7, whereas Duke of Gloucester is a prototype and the only one of it's kind to be built. Easy mistake to make though, as they are quite similar.
very inpresive I m scheduled to do a steam trip in the UK in April with various classes of steam including a few A4s and others I am not sure of yet but I hope this is one of them
Polybun, obviously an expert on this stuff-seems youtube is full pf bad mannered opinionated idiots! I don't know a lot about steam engines, and I don't really care about wh*t peiple like you have to say, just to get a word in!
as an American, i have plenty of respect for American steam, but British steam just has this certain appeal to it. to me British made steam trains have a very classy look to them as if they were royality
No wonder the American red Indians got a fright, seeing one of those trumping towards them across the plains …LOL… what a bit of British engineering though guys, makes you wonder what happened don’t it…..
@Tegenaria Bollocks they'll have done it for show as everyone likes to see and hear a bit of wheelslip and no self-respecting engine driver would ever let his engine slip by mistake.
@LizardKingJimLA69 Sorry, LizardKing you are wrong... (The engine could damage cylinders/link motion seriously.(thousands of pounds- not to mention the ability to be part of the main line fleet.)....there seems to be an ambundance of crap on the rails.....for whatever reason.........
@Tegenaria see the steam coming from the cylinders in the beginning? The cilinders have to be oiled when driving, so a oil pump is placed within the frame to oil the insides of the cylinder. With the cylinder valves open the oil gets spread all over the track. I think that's the reason for the wheel spin. Good drivers can leave the station without a wheen spin. The trick is to just give the engine enough time to pick up speed.
@Tegenaria Wrong dumb shit, it's not because of "power being built up" whatever the hell you think that means. Power is always built up in a steam locomotive, thus the pressure in the boiler. It slipped because it was going through a switch, and switches usually provide poor traction. The slipped stopped as soon as the first drive wheel was off the switch.
@Polybun Not sure where you are from but in the UK there are some Locos in the UK, Bullied Pacific for example, Some were rebuilt in the end but the valve gear was chain operated, and ran thru an oil bath. When stationary the oil drips onto the rails. When pulling away these locos were prone to slip, it took a very skillful driver to keep in it check.
Wheelslip rocks but doesn't do the loco much good.
@matthewt1501 In the US, We have our own locos in this area to play with, Mainly the 700 and the 4449. But lots of little logging locos to have fun on too. I guess that's why we were smart enough to point our cylinder cocks to the side rather than shoot the cylinder oil onto our tracks. Suppose we did a better job on our valve gear as well, opting of pneumatics instead of chains. that said, Get ahold of a johnson bar on a big mikado and act careless and she'll whip you around the cab.
@Polybun There are many designs of valve gear. Mr Bullied, figured, the chain operated was the best for his 3 cylinder locos. There is no getting away from the fact though that his locos where fast and efficient.
Many UK Locos where inside steam admission "d" valves, but the Duke in this vid has Caprotti valve gear with a screw reverser (highly tunable ) and i think she was the first of the class to have it fitted. Well it's either steam and oil all over the rails or all over the passengers.
@Polybun Imagine waltzing onto someone's video and introducing yourself with the words, "Wrong dumb shit". You've got as much charm as a constipated stormtrooper.
@jerrygreg2 You don't need charm when you have staggering intellect to work with. Friends very quickly become of little consequence when you find much more engaging and engrossing muses. In any case, none would stick around anyway because the muses leave no time for friendship. the machines have one me over, I would rather spend time in the pit under a locomotive, or hanging from her smoke box than I would speak to fellow humans.
@Polybun lol! Interesting.If you had the last steam engine in the world, I wouldn't want to be your apprentice! I think your talents may die with you and your loco end up on the scrapheap.
@voodoodanny No. It was because the rails were wet from all of the steam. There is no reason to leave the cylinder drains cocks open that long. The driver of Mallard told me that 8 driver revs is all that it needed to get the water out of the cyclinders.
I have a question. I noticed that on some steamers, there's something on the last driving wheel that the connecting rod connects to. is it a generator?
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 - No, Britain stopped regular service steam in the late 1960's on the mainline. They're only used for tourist excursions (called "Railtours" in the UK), just like in the US.
Also, don't be too surprised to see an AMTRAK engine behind a US steamer... it's at the head of an "Amtrak Sponsored Excursion".
@trainmaster844 Which sucks because then the consists has to be amtrak approved. The wiring requirements are expensive for that and put all of our vintage rolling stock onto siding forever. You'll never again see a daylight colored train behind the 4449 for that reason. There just isn't money to do that to the cars.
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 google Bo'Ness rail museum, scotland. they do runs near every day, and just re opened a comershal line. you can also google earth it.
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 No, British steam engines are not used for everyday transportation,they are however used for special steam excursions whereby railtour operating companies hire them to pull trains on the national network,for the benefit of tourists or enthusiasts or just people who want to experience a ride behind a steam engine. Up until the mid 1970s was when the last steam engines operated on the British rail network. a huge number of which are owned and preserved by enthusiasts.
I remember seeing her in the sidings outside Cashmores in Newport waiting to go in to be scrapped. If it wasn't for a keen eyed worker who noticed the card tied to her saying that it should have gone to Woodhams in Barry we would have lost her. A lovely engine.
The drivers or firemen leave the cylinder drain cocks open far too long. It only takes 8 driver revs to blow the water out of the cylinders. Keeping the drain cocks open like that is akin to blowing down the boiler. The pressure drop is dramatic.
What sort of valve-gear is that?She looks beautiful!A credit to her owners.
Squarerig 2 weeks ago
@Squarerig Caprotti valve gear
NwsNoaaChaser 5 days ago
She seems to have a lorry's propshaft for her conrods, why is that?
crazyracer12 2 weeks ago
Beautiful!!!
dwkcamman611 1 month ago
British steam trains are so elegant
N330AA 1 month ago
Britains future rail way trains in 2025 AD.
pennlope55 2 months ago
0:36 burnout...
DerekFuckedYourBitch 2 months ago
loveley loco
andy126128 4 months ago
I like the reverse thrusters hehe.
bloodsurf69 4 months ago
Beautiful!!!
dwkcamman611 4 months ago
Stamping it's feet a little there...nice one....
fjbutch 6 months ago
I love the Tender on this Engine! bulky :)
TheBlackOctane 8 months ago
A very loud (and very slippery) Duke of Gloucester lol I've seen the sister to this engine, 70013 'Oliver Cromwell' I've seen that one slip a few times. In some cases very badly. It did when it pulled the Duchy last year with Black 5 No.44871. I've still yet to see this engine yet it has been planned to come down before but was changed last minute which is a shame because i'd really like to see this engine. On one of my vid's i've got 60163 'Tornado' slipping quite badly whilst leaving plymouth
whitewingsrich 9 months ago
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TheOnlyBrooks 9 months ago
@whitewingsrich Hate to correct you, but Oliver Cromwell is not this loco's sister engine. It's a BR Standard Class 7, whereas Duke of Gloucester is a prototype and the only one of it's kind to be built. Easy mistake to make though, as they are quite similar.
TheOnlyBrooks 9 months ago
All arguments and argy-bargy aside I think the locomotive, the video, the idea of preserved steam and all that goes with it - it's all WONDERFUL!
Thanks Tegenaria.
pjwsnooty 9 months ago
what kind of valve gear does that locomotive have? I never saw that kind before.
pennyf9 9 months ago
@pennyf9 It's called Caprotti valve gear, and, in the UK, was only fitted to 33 locos.
dervard94 9 months ago
@dervard94 cool. I learned something today!
pennyf9 9 months ago
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@pennyf9 It's called Caprotti valve gear, and, in the UK, was only fitted to 33 locos.
dervard94 9 months ago
One carriage attached and the wheels slipped!
I think that the driver did a burnout for the benefit of the cameras....
Ropponmatsu2 10 months ago
very inpresive I m scheduled to do a steam trip in the UK in April with various classes of steam including a few A4s and others I am not sure of yet but I hope this is one of them
gaycowboy31 1 year ago
Polybun, obviously an expert on this stuff-seems youtube is full pf bad mannered opinionated idiots! I don't know a lot about steam engines, and I don't really care about wh*t peiple like you have to say, just to get a word in!
Tegenaria 1 year ago
@mcCann26197 Yea me to liked the wheelslip
floodedcar123 1 year ago
like the wheelslip
McCann26197 1 year ago
Very well kept Locomotive. A proud piece of History.
Fischer0Dude 1 year ago
I'm from Gloucester :)
Gamer360Zone 1 year ago
Great video! Love the brief wheelslip!
caseygblake 1 year ago
gorgeous
andyc5155 1 year ago
as an American, i have plenty of respect for American steam, but British steam just has this certain appeal to it. to me British made steam trains have a very classy look to them as if they were royality
b36bo 1 year ago
No wonder the American red Indians got a fright, seeing one of those trumping towards them across the plains …LOL… what a bit of British engineering though guys, makes you wonder what happened don’t it…..
Thom in Scotland.
fuelban 1 year ago
the power of steam, still nothing like it in the world today. :)
CUTCAT55 1 year ago
@CUTCAT55 Oh rubbish, Rockets! Simliar power with similar drama.
Polybun 1 year ago
i've heard louder
littlegiant18794 1 year ago
"what a shot" indeed
rcfp2006 1 year ago
The little wheelspin - was that just for show, then?
voodoodanny 1 year ago
@voodoodanny
Well no, it will be due to all the power being built up bt the train only allowed to go slow. Its like a coiled spring, it wants to go!
Tegenaria 1 year ago
@Tegenaria Bollocks they'll have done it for show as everyone likes to see and hear a bit of wheelslip and no self-respecting engine driver would ever let his engine slip by mistake.
LizardKingJimLA69 1 year ago
@LizardKingJimLA69 Sorry, LizardKing you are wrong... (The engine could damage cylinders/link motion seriously.(thousands of pounds- not to mention the ability to be part of the main line fleet.)....there seems to be an ambundance of crap on the rails.....for whatever reason.........
al46115 1 year ago
@Tegenaria Sorta.. usually caused by poor adhesion (wet or greasy rail head) or opening the regulator (throttle) too quickly.
drummerliam 1 year ago
@Tegenaria see the steam coming from the cylinders in the beginning? The cilinders have to be oiled when driving, so a oil pump is placed within the frame to oil the insides of the cylinder. With the cylinder valves open the oil gets spread all over the track. I think that's the reason for the wheel spin. Good drivers can leave the station without a wheen spin. The trick is to just give the engine enough time to pick up speed.
martinstroetinga 1 year ago
@Tegenaria Wrong dumb shit, it's not because of "power being built up" whatever the hell you think that means. Power is always built up in a steam locomotive, thus the pressure in the boiler. It slipped because it was going through a switch, and switches usually provide poor traction. The slipped stopped as soon as the first drive wheel was off the switch.
Polybun 1 year ago
@Polybun Not sure where you are from but in the UK there are some Locos in the UK, Bullied Pacific for example, Some were rebuilt in the end but the valve gear was chain operated, and ran thru an oil bath. When stationary the oil drips onto the rails. When pulling away these locos were prone to slip, it took a very skillful driver to keep in it check.
Wheelslip rocks but doesn't do the loco much good.
Good Vid though.
matthewt1501 1 year ago
@matthewt1501 In the US, We have our own locos in this area to play with, Mainly the 700 and the 4449. But lots of little logging locos to have fun on too. I guess that's why we were smart enough to point our cylinder cocks to the side rather than shoot the cylinder oil onto our tracks. Suppose we did a better job on our valve gear as well, opting of pneumatics instead of chains. that said, Get ahold of a johnson bar on a big mikado and act careless and she'll whip you around the cab.
Polybun 1 year ago
@Polybun There are many designs of valve gear. Mr Bullied, figured, the chain operated was the best for his 3 cylinder locos. There is no getting away from the fact though that his locos where fast and efficient.
Many UK Locos where inside steam admission "d" valves, but the Duke in this vid has Caprotti valve gear with a screw reverser (highly tunable ) and i think she was the first of the class to have it fitted. Well it's either steam and oil all over the rails or all over the passengers.
matthewt1501 1 year ago
@matthewt1501 no shit sherlock. Tell me something else I don't know. That has nothing to do with wheel slip shit for brains.
Polybun 1 year ago
@Polybun I bet you have lots of friends!
matthewt1501 1 year ago
@Polybun
he was only offering his thoughts, theres no need to swear at him, wrong or not it was uncalled for
animesis 1 year ago
@Polybun Imagine waltzing onto someone's video and introducing yourself with the words, "Wrong dumb shit". You've got as much charm as a constipated stormtrooper.
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 You don't need charm when you have staggering intellect to work with. Friends very quickly become of little consequence when you find much more engaging and engrossing muses. In any case, none would stick around anyway because the muses leave no time for friendship. the machines have one me over, I would rather spend time in the pit under a locomotive, or hanging from her smoke box than I would speak to fellow humans.
Polybun 2 months ago
@Polybun lol! Interesting.If you had the last steam engine in the world, I wouldn't want to be your apprentice! I think your talents may die with you and your loco end up on the scrapheap.
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 not my problem.
Polybun 2 months ago
@Polybun I had a feeling you'd say that.
I bet there's a nice, big, cuddly softy behind that veneer, just dying to be loved. Haha!
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@Tegenaria More that the Driver opens the Regulator too much, apllying too much power.
KitsuneProductions 3 months ago
@Tegenaria Nonsense. Purely a matter of the "regulator" being opened a bit too much/soon. And no sand.
How anthropomorphic, though!
And your noise- you were too close, with the cylinder drains open. Back off.
woodscritter 3 months ago
@voodoodanny No. It was because the rails were wet from all of the steam. There is no reason to leave the cylinder drains cocks open that long. The driver of Mallard told me that 8 driver revs is all that it needed to get the water out of the cyclinders.
MrMKH2010 1 year ago
I have a question. I noticed that on some steamers, there's something on the last driving wheel that the connecting rod connects to. is it a generator?
superyerfdog 1 year ago
@superyerfdog ...Link to the speedometer ( mph )
al46115 1 year ago
@al46115
I have no idea-i know nothing about steam engines apart from the basics!
Tegenaria 1 year ago
does england srtill use thease steam engins for transpatation like amtrack????
KilleTheHedgehog8492 2 years ago
only for special charters/ tours, which there are allot of all through the year, dare i say almost at least one a day.
and on preserved railways
andyg3 2 years ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 - No, Britain stopped regular service steam in the late 1960's on the mainline. They're only used for tourist excursions (called "Railtours" in the UK), just like in the US.
Also, don't be too surprised to see an AMTRAK engine behind a US steamer... it's at the head of an "Amtrak Sponsored Excursion".
trainmaster844 2 years ago
@trainmaster844 Which sucks because then the consists has to be amtrak approved. The wiring requirements are expensive for that and put all of our vintage rolling stock onto siding forever. You'll never again see a daylight colored train behind the 4449 for that reason. There just isn't money to do that to the cars.
Polybun 1 year ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 only on certain lines, and usually special occasions
Tegenaria 1 year ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 google Bo'Ness rail museum, scotland. they do runs near every day, and just re opened a comershal line. you can also google earth it.
thom in scotland.
fuelban 1 year ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 No, British steam engines are not used for everyday transportation,they are however used for special steam excursions whereby railtour operating companies hire them to pull trains on the national network,for the benefit of tourists or enthusiasts or just people who want to experience a ride behind a steam engine. Up until the mid 1970s was when the last steam engines operated on the British rail network. a huge number of which are owned and preserved by enthusiasts.
MrJames27011 1 year ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 why not speak english you thick cunt
claypiesexygod 1 year ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 Not regularly on national rail, but we do have many preservation railways that have regular steam services.
Yownanymous 1 year ago
@KilleTheHedgehog8492 If only they did.
thediremoose 1 year ago
As good as Tornado is, Dof G is a more magnificent beast, aND SO WELL TURNED OUT - BEAUTIFUL
mikekguitarman 2 years ago
I remember seeing her in the sidings outside Cashmores in Newport waiting to go in to be scrapped. If it wasn't for a keen eyed worker who noticed the card tied to her saying that it should have gone to Woodhams in Barry we would have lost her. A lovely engine.
siobhan104 2 years ago
Very cool valve gear.
JaiahHazelnutBrown 2 years ago
They forgot a tail lamp......
13cheese999 2 years ago
The drivers or firemen leave the cylinder drain cocks open far too long. It only takes 8 driver revs to blow the water out of the cylinders. Keeping the drain cocks open like that is akin to blowing down the boiler. The pressure drop is dramatic.
lms264t 2 years ago
Gd video, Was this a shilden?
55phil55 2 years ago
It was indeed at Shildon. I thought i put that in my comments
Tegenaria 2 years ago
How fast is this train? i dont know much about it... Apart from it looks classy! :D
STOPTHEEU 2 years ago
in her golden years (when BR let her run fast) I'd say, oh, over a Hundred on a downhill slope with a good fire and a long train
joeferrito 2 years ago