Matty Groves : Dirty Linen / Fairport Convention

[mumuearth7]

@ngiya Her name was too long to fit the lines. The singer's shit here - a shame.

[mumuearth7]

Up to Angel Delight.

[mumuearth7]

Hairsport made better albums than The Spanners, Mr.

[MrHistorian123]

I cannot agree with the poster of this video that Fairport were better than Steeleye Span.

Hark the Village Wait, Below the Salt and Parcel of Rogues are as good, if not better, than anything Fairport did, good though Liege and Lief and Unhalfbricking are. And Steeleye uncorked They Called Her Babylon late on in their career, an album the later incarnations of Fairport could never aspire to.

[zafari72]

Exelente video,exelente grupo,uno de mis favoritos

[Jimala3]

LARRY KEEL

[IStoleYourPotatoes]

Akhunslet: The U.S.A. pressing was self-titled. The British pressing of the same album was called What We Did on Our Holidays. Read my post again. If you want to buy the first album on cd it will be titled What We Did on Our Holidays. I have the self-titled U.S.A. pressing from the time on vinyl. When I bought the cd it was called by the original name of What We Did on Our Holidays, the British title.

[sexyghostelephant]

In the Liege & Lief version, it's Lord Donald, but here it sounds like he's saying Lord Arnold. Any reason for the change? Or am I just imagining things?

[ngiyaxolisa]

@sexyghostelephant There are many different versions of this old ballad, perhaps the earliest being "Little Musgrave and Lord Barnard's Lady" in which "Matty" is a knight not a commoner and presumably a better matched adversary for Lord Arnold/Barnard. Even so, it ends with Matty's death and the rather more brutal murder of the defenseless Lady Barnard. I always found it interesting that we're never told her name in any of the versions.  Insult to injury?

[IStoleYourPotatoes]

What about Pentangle!!! I love the early Fairport Convention(of course this is not it), but Pentangle was much more traditional than Fairport.

[Pitfossil]

Spudstealer, no flies on Pentangle - it was they who got me into listening to Britfolk, some 40 years ago. But Fairport Convention...if they come second then only by half a nose.

[IStoleYourPotatoes]

I am listening to the 1st Fairport effort on vinyl right now. Known in England as What We Did on Our Holidays, but you know that because you are old like me. I can't have it any other way and wouldn't if I could. The Lord Is in This Place...How Dreadful This Place and Nottamun Town are my favs on the 1st Fairport. Do you have Heyday? Recorded live on the BBC. Usually overlooked but it is incredible! Cheers brother.

[Pitfossil]

I use them to finetune loudspeaker boxes. When Judy Dyble singing "Clouds" still raises goosebumps after all these years the boxes are OK.

[Akhunslet]

The first Fairport Convention album was self titled and was before Sandy Denny joined.

[mrmanly08]

@IStoleYourPotatoes What We did on Our Holidays was NOT Fairport's first album it was in fact an album called Fairport Convention which featured twin vocalists in Judy Dyvbe and Ian Matthews later of Matthews Southern Comfort it also featured Simon Nicol (the only member of the original Fairport still in the band), a young Richard Thompson, Ashley Hutchings (who went on to form Steeleye Span and Albion Band) and poor olkd Martin Lamble on drums who soon after died in a motorway accident.

[IStoleYourPotatoes]

@mrmanly08 Of course you are correct sir. I didn't check my facts but relied on my memory which fails me at times.

[raysteer]

Pentangle were MAYBE more traditional lyricswise but could be seen as "further out" instrumentaly. They certainly had a clear idea of what they wanted to do from early on, FP on the other hand seem to have had more song writting talent, but for good or bad didn't settle on one style untill you know who left, followed by the other one.....untill they drifted into the hey-diddle-middle of the road, joining SS who had been there the whole time.

[IStoleYourPotatoes]

raysteer, have you checked out the Richard Thompson anthology Watching the Dark? Three incredible cd's, great straight through. Covers the years 1969-'92. Fairport, Richard and Linda, Richard solo. It has some songs that are on nothing else. Like a killer live take on Devonside(much better than the studio version imo) and From Galway to Graceland. I think you would dig it if you don't already have it.

[raysteer]

Thanks very much for the tip, I'll give it a look.

[slygingerdog]

just to add my penneth on the SS versus FC debate, the two bands are different in many ways.

Fairport were of course a rock band who "found" folk music and did loads of great things with it, whereas Steeleye were mainly folk musicians who used rock as their medium, and who also achieved great things.After 40 years both bands are still going strong, and I think neither band are really into this rivalry.

But don't forget who won when SS played FC at football back in about 1970 !

[kenp3L]

Fairport is a great band, but why to you need to pick a fight with Steeleye Span and their fans? BTW, if you want to show the superiority of Fairport, this is not the clip to show. Having heard the Leige & Leif version of Matty Groves, the version here, to my ears, sounds horrible without Sandy Denny's singing.

[zensho1]

I agree with the video poster's comments. I was always ridiculed by my peers becasue I thought Fairport were much, much better. 'Not pure enough; Steeleye are purer' was the response. Musically, particularly becasue of Richard Thompson, Fairport were always streets ahead.

Trees went close. Check out 'On the Shore'.

[vanu49]

Fairport always looking for new ways to play

the songs, thats why they are great.

tks and cheers!

[ZINEDINE05]

I'm really digging this.Could you shed a little light on these guys for me?