i remember that the blonde girl was name snaps and the black boy was jaws and i think the red head genius is called I Q or something but i still remember the good old days though. thumbs up if the millinium is WAY less cool than the retro days ^_^ ! ! ! ! !
I miss the characters. I loved the old Burger King logo as well as the one for Hardee's. At least McDonald's kept theirs but their food is "good" as it claims to be now.
I would want to get with that wizard from "Back to the Future" and take me back to those awesome years.
can i just say that you dont see many groups of kids now hanging with wheelchaired kids. not even in cartoons...last one i remember was pelswick. and they arent as diversional...or something lol. i mean it weird how when we grew up everyone was friends no real classes well not the way i remember it. wow....BK why did you get rid of the kidz club?
AAaahhh, a commercial from time when kids practically ruled the airwaves and every other ad was meant for you. Now its all ads for boner pills and depression medication.
OMG the memories!!!! dude....BRING BACK THE 90s kids now have nothng like we do! and its sad. we had SO many shows and cartoons and commericals that were awesome i wanna be a kid again back in the 90s i miss it so fucking much
@chrisz71 spot on man. when you are a kid you want to grow up. but once you grown up you wanna be a kid. but lets be honest at least we arent kids in this decade! we were kids when it was the perfect time to be a kid
I lived throughout the entire 90's and this bring back a lot of memories. Burger King Kids Club Gang were the reason that I loved eating at Burger King. I really sucked when they were replaced in 2005 (after 15 years).
@lolanimations lol me too. it reminds me of that one time they were going to make the anime Sailor Moon into an American Animation. It had replaced each of the sailor scouts with different ethnic girls and also one in a wheel chair.... as to make the others feel "not left out" lololol
I remember first seeing this on the VHS version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 the secret of the ooze, it was one of the greatest things I ever saw haha
I heard on the news that they were going to take McD's to court over these types of kids meals. Don't those lawyers have other shit to focus on other than kids meals?
KIDS MEALS ARE A PART OF OUR CULTURE AND OUR YOUTH
THEY DON'T MAKE KIDS FAT
JUST POOR PARENTS WHO GIVE THEM KIDS MEALS EVERY DAY, BUT ONE KIDS MEAL WON'T KILL YA LOL
I remember this commercial spot was included on the Ninja Turtles cartoon vhs they gave you at Burger King. This would come on then the cartoon would start. I got all four of those VHS. I loved Burger King when I was little way more than McDonald's and it was closer to my house.
I remember this commercial! I thought it was so cool to be in The burger king kids club, even though I was never in one..... I wished I was though! :(
it's marketing. thats why these characters are gone. the BK kids meal simply cannot compete with a Happy Meal. You know how many people go through BK and say, "can i have a happy meal?"
I was in that club, why'd they get rid of their mascots though? Know what's weird? There's a Burger King near a Costco here that still has the kid with the goggles on the window facing the road!
My brother registered me in this thing for burger king, and basically they sent me cool book activities from burger king,on my birthday with these characters.
@PhantomKing88 well not really.. Saying she IS hot implies that u, at your current age, think she's hot. the 'to this day' part further implies that after all these years she turns u on as an adult... And the wink at the end, seems to seal the deal on your degree of pervyness. :P
@guypursin okay. I thought it through and i was like 4 or 5. i am 17. not an adult. and another thing. do you realize that you are ranting on about a 30 second 90's BK commercial? why does it matter? and the whole saying she's hot was suppose to be a joke. did i say i happily jerked off to the picture of the girl? no i didn't. i would like that thumbs up now
It's been so many years. I remeber seeing his commercial specifically in I don't know how long. Ironically I got reminded of these guys thanks to the Barney bunch.
@HavokkG1 yeah the 90's was a time when you had friends you had them from different parts of the world. you dong out with white,black,mexican,asian,indian,ect all you want to do is to hang out and play but now it's way different.
And now for Sarcasm 101. It's clear this character was included so that no one would feel left out of offended. Therefore, I said he offended me. Class dismissed.
lil fyi for you kido's kids club chartchers were first introduced in 87 they didnt air reguarly till 90's but every so often from 87-89 they'd pop up on tv
AWESOME! I used to love these commercials. This was on the vhs of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze. This brings me back to the time when I was a little kid. I wish The kids club was still around.
It's pretty pathetic how lazy animators are nowadays. Commercials in the 90's had so much effort put into them. Today they just don't care cause it's all CG.
@RodStewartfan1 Yay for dial-up internet, rampant drug use, horrible fashion styles, and 16 bit graphics!
Yup, sure was better in every way!
There certainly were a lot of nice things in the 90s but there were an equal share of BAD things. We need to bring back all that was good about the 90s, and we need it NOW. This generation should have the awesomeness of the past 2 decades combined!
Whatever happens to these commercials? They're way better than the trash commercials Burger King puts out for kids meals, like the recent Spongebob one.
Big Kids Meal has Double Hamburger/Cheeseburger and 6-or-8 piece Chicken Tender while the BK Kids Club has a regular Hamburger/Cheeseburger and 4 piece Chicken Tender.
child labor
zimsonic 34 minutes ago
CUTE !
WaffleBrother 2 weeks ago
im a 80s kid. i was born in 83. i had inspector gadget and tmnt. beat that!
NextGenGameSystem 4 weeks ago
@NextGenGameSystem I can easily kick that 80's tmnt with power rangers. way better :)
SladesGirl 4 days ago
I have a club a kids club
KidsClubStudyProgram 1 month ago
The kid in a wheelchair demonstrates his ability to spin and throw french fries.
TheMainalt 1 month ago
I swear to god the food was so much better back then as well.
TheNemo71389 2 months ago
@TheNemo71389 EVERYTHING was better back then. the world is sh1t... especially the food
ekimbro08 4 weeks ago
They really should make a come back, and have their own tv show! Thumbs up if y'all agree.
Cena340 2 months ago
@blueswan1984 Damn right, they really should bring them back.
Cena340 2 months ago
I missed these original BK mascots, sad that nowadays the only mascot BK is known for was that scary ass smiling Burger King.
blueswan1984 3 months ago 2
kid vid likes waffles so duz pooh
DotPinkBeret 4 months ago
@DotPinkBeret hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaqhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahhahahahahhaahahahhahahhahahahahaahhaahaha ooh my head hurts
TheOfficialEBBunny21 3 months ago
I used to be in this club! guess who i was?
TheOfficialEBBunny21 4 months ago
i remember that the blonde girl was name snaps and the black boy was jaws and i think the red head genius is called I Q or something but i still remember the good old days though. thumbs up if the millinium is WAY less cool than the retro days ^_^ ! ! ! ! !
fairymairah 4 months ago
@fairymairah Man, you got a good memory! All I could remember was the dog was J.D. lol!
Revidescent84 3 months ago
what ever happened to those guys
ujockdrock 4 months ago
@ujockdrock They will be forever greatful.
Thompsonnw 3 months ago
i love this
wcwnw00 4 months ago
I love this memories
spinbadmonkey108 4 months ago
@RocketDan21 "DaNeil?" Crazy BKKC!
DotPinkBeret 4 months ago
@gofalcons53 they eat to much chicken tenders and burgers that they got fat and they died
DotPinkBeret 4 months ago
They get rid of this and replace with a man in a king mask being in bed with people when they wake up.
123deerfest 4 months ago
yes I was apart of the burger king kids club.. they always sent mail of solar system stickers
punkiebrewsterface 5 months ago
lol this is definately a time of retro with colors lightning sign and snowboard shades . and a belt thing
audiosport2 5 months ago
Ok, so they have a black kid, a cripple kid, but no asian kid? way to be diverse Burger King.
wulf02 6 months ago
@wulf02 there was a asian check out my chennel to find out
DotPinkBeret 4 months ago
The Subservient Chicken ate the Kids Club gang. All out of a sarcastic remark Kid Vid blurped out, which was misheard,
SuperTooga 6 months ago
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I had a crush on kid vid when I was little.
forcommongood 6 months ago
The Burger King kids club rejected my application. Jerks.
I wonder what ever happened to Kid Vid, Snaps and the others..bet they're living under a bridge somewhere.
ImmortalfireTheMod 7 months ago
WHO ARE THE WEIRDEST ONES????
The Kids Next Door or THESES KIDS?
comaster2 7 months ago
those were the good ol' days.... after watching this i feel so old now even at 24
shadymages 7 months ago
I miss the characters. I loved the old Burger King logo as well as the one for Hardee's. At least McDonald's kept theirs but their food is "good" as it claims to be now.
I would want to get with that wizard from "Back to the Future" and take me back to those awesome years.
Forget 2011.
dogevolayot 8 months ago
can i just say that you dont see many groups of kids now hanging with wheelchaired kids. not even in cartoons...last one i remember was pelswick. and they arent as diversional...or something lol. i mean it weird how when we grew up everyone was friends no real classes well not the way i remember it. wow....BK why did you get rid of the kidz club?
gannon1op 8 months ago
holy crap I remember this
kcarter0202 9 months ago
This was on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Seceret of the Ooze VHS tape!!
tutekki 9 months ago
I was once a member of the Burger King Kids' Club. Can I have benefits as an official alumnus?
PureMadness 9 months ago
This commercial was in like every single VHS release from the first two seasons of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles animated series.
Brainwashing us to eat the Burger King!
PaintedTapes 9 months ago
HOLY SHIT! the nostalgia
CobraLats 9 months ago
strange.. i never remember burgers coming in the boxes...
CrimzonRegret 10 months ago
@CrimzonRegret never had a happy meal? never had a kids club meal? they always came in boxes.
hcvang 10 months ago
@hcvang I have had tons of both, but they all came in that weak yellow and white paper that would always rip and stick to my burger
CrimzonRegret 10 months ago
Wow I remember these guys.. Kid Vid, Jaws, Boomer, I.Q, Wheeler, Snaps...LOL!! This is AWESHOME!!! ^____^
guypursin 10 months ago
@SirFakeName DON'T CALL ME A DUMBASS!!!! I JUST PREFER THE 90'S TO THE PRESENT OK!!!
RodStewartfan1 11 months ago
@SirFakeName
I said that like a year ago ffer
HavokkG1 11 months ago
Burger kign Kids club rocked. I remember getting one birthday card from them years ago. sweet memories. :D
HamonLord 11 months ago
child labour in the 90s!
ZappleZ 11 months ago
This is epic. Even the commercials from the 90s are better then the cartoons on today
IphoneChaos 11 months ago 8
Five Token Band or not I love these guys so much.
AetherSingularity 1 year ago
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0:11 Human version of Gosylyn from Darkwing Duck
DemomanX614 1 year ago
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DemomanX614 1 year ago
I love how even the cartoon's clothes and looks are so 90's. The black kid has that Bobby Brown/Fresh Prince of Bel Air haircut lol
arturocas90 1 year ago
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Mortskcab 1 year ago
Only a million times better than Ronald McDonald
Mortskcab 1 year ago
@Mortskcab Hey don't knock the Ron-meister! :P
guypursin 10 months ago
SO FREAKN REMEMBER THAT!
reyestino01 1 year ago
AAaahhh, a commercial from time when kids practically ruled the airwaves and every other ad was meant for you. Now its all ads for boner pills and depression medication.
gundamredframe 1 year ago
I was apart of the burger king kids club they sent me stuff on my birthday
2704heatherwolf 1 year ago
@2704heatherwolf OMG NO WAY SO DID I
SuperWolfmike 1 year ago
I miss these characters.
leafia6 1 year ago 2
@leafia6 me too
SuperWolfmike 1 year ago
@SuperWolfmike I know.
leafia6 1 year ago
@leafia6 you do?!
SuperWolfmike 1 year ago
These commercials are how I got the nickname wheels!
wheels85 1 year ago
why dont they have this anymore
XTHEGAMERGUYX 1 year ago
OMG the memories!!!! dude....BRING BACK THE 90s kids now have nothng like we do! and its sad. we had SO many shows and cartoons and commericals that were awesome i wanna be a kid again back in the 90s i miss it so fucking much
gannon1op 1 year ago
D: i wish i can go back to those times
wheels687 1 year ago
Back then I couldn't wait to grow up. What a fool I was!
chrisz71 1 year ago 36
@chrisz71 spot on man. when you are a kid you want to grow up. but once you grown up you wanna be a kid. but lets be honest at least we arent kids in this decade! we were kids when it was the perfect time to be a kid
gannon1op 1 year ago
@gannon1op
Now THAT would be punishment. Growing up with no good cartoons and a less imaginative decade? No thanks. I'm a 90s kid and thank Jesus for that.
ninjawraith17 1 year ago 5
@chrisz71
I feel ya on that
ColorzBox 1 year ago
@chrisz71 Amen brother Amen!
ninjasuzuki 1 year ago
@chrisz71 you said it.
hcvang 10 months ago
@chrisz71 I felt the same way too. I wished that I was grown but never realized how complicated my life as an adult really is.
dogevolayot 8 months ago
@chrisz71 What fools we all were
onenonlyprincess2 4 months ago
i never got that kind of surface at bk.
acedaface954 1 year ago
OMG KID VID. i remember him. its such a shame burger king got rid of him
zerogranger 1 year ago
I lived throughout the entire 90's and this bring back a lot of memories. Burger King Kids Club Gang were the reason that I loved eating at Burger King. I really sucked when they were replaced in 2005 (after 15 years).
deenage 1 year ago
I hate being grown up, you have to pay bills and stuff.
countchunkula 1 year ago
This brings back memories =)
MrMusic789 1 year ago
Wheelchair with a spoiler lol
the wheels would be going so fast that if he puts his hand on it, they'd grind down to a bloody stump. glaff.
izlude2 1 year ago
ha....good old days of childhood. adulthood sucks in my opinion...
Conduit13C 1 year ago
@Conduit13C i second that motion
acedaface954 1 year ago
i hated the kid in the wheelchair...
lolanimations 1 year ago
@lolanimations lol me too. it reminds me of that one time they were going to make the anime Sailor Moon into an American Animation. It had replaced each of the sailor scouts with different ethnic girls and also one in a wheel chair.... as to make the others feel "not left out" lololol
bunnyandpanda 1 year ago
OMG this is back when it was cool to like pokemon.....:( I want to go back :(
bcount1 1 year ago
I miss my childhood!!!
EliteSasuke 1 year ago
it scares me!!!
EsMiVidaTV 1 year ago
I remember first seeing this on the VHS version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 the secret of the ooze, it was one of the greatest things I ever saw haha
Krismann 1 year ago 23
@Krismann YES!! thank you i was trying to remeber what VHS movie I saw this on but I couldn't think of the name lol
Rebelyell01 1 year ago
@Krismann FOREAL! HHAHA
Justs0MEGUY11 7 months ago
@Krismann lol oh damn that's true lol! Memories.
JimmyJones 5 months ago
I heard on the news that they were going to take McD's to court over these types of kids meals. Don't those lawyers have other shit to focus on other than kids meals?
KIDS MEALS ARE A PART OF OUR CULTURE AND OUR YOUTH
THEY DON'T MAKE KIDS FAT
JUST POOR PARENTS WHO GIVE THEM KIDS MEALS EVERY DAY, BUT ONE KIDS MEAL WON'T KILL YA LOL
ixcuincle 1 year ago
iremember this:)
voltera6 1 year ago
Well Chronische to me the 90s were the time of my life! I have nothing to complain about!! Ok dial up was annoying once in a while.
RodStewartfan1 1 year ago
I remember this commercial spot was included on the Ninja Turtles cartoon vhs they gave you at Burger King. This would come on then the cartoon would start. I got all four of those VHS. I loved Burger King when I was little way more than McDonald's and it was closer to my house.
vaibanez17 1 year ago
*cough* Nostalgia filter *cough*
idiotsloveboxes 1 year ago
i remember this commercial
MissyT0763 1 year ago
I thought the 2000s were good until about 2005.
nintendogsyo 1 year ago 3
I remember this commercial! I thought it was so cool to be in The burger king kids club, even though I was never in one..... I wished I was though! :(
ShystyHeights82 1 year ago
@ShystyHeights82 haha I can relate to your story.
antman0719 1 year ago
I forgot how disgustingly PC the 90s were.
g0n20magg0t 1 year ago
this was on the begining of a VHS tape i used to watch... forget which one
ilovemayo123 1 year ago
It was teenage mutant ninja turtles: secret of the ooze. Atleast that is where I remember it from lol
JugglingJake 1 year ago
I remember this.
ladydragonpoint5 1 year ago
fai toma no ...........
waguilherme 1 year ago
it's marketing. thats why these characters are gone. the BK kids meal simply cannot compete with a Happy Meal. You know how many people go through BK and say, "can i have a happy meal?"
timf08 2 years ago
why a wheelchair?
volkscom 2 years ago
I was in that club, why'd they get rid of their mascots though? Know what's weird? There's a Burger King near a Costco here that still has the kid with the goggles on the window facing the road!
MisunderstoodXG 2 years ago
Omg! I remember these guys!
jbean0 2 years ago 3
Is that his sister @ ;22?
PTH4Fun 2 years ago
My brother registered me in this thing for burger king, and basically they sent me cool book activities from burger king,on my birthday with these characters.
egg151 2 years ago
Those bastards wouldn't let me in the Kids Club. So I sued, and that's why all those BK kid characters are nowhere to be seen today..lol
gaoutlaw 2 years ago
Alas, I remenber those animated kids of the original BK kids Club. It's a crying shame that kids today are eating at BK without these guys around.
EMaster2006 2 years ago 4
THESE ARE THE COOLEST KIDS EVEEERRRR! THESE KIDS REPRESENT THE 90'S!!!!!! and redhead pony tail girl is hot to this day ;D
PhantomKing88 2 years ago
@PhantomKing88 I was gonna thumbs up this comment until i read the last part.. Dude! You do realize she's like 12, don't u? o_O
guypursin 10 months ago
@guypursin and she was around when i was 7. it is valid
PhantomKing88 10 months ago
@PhantomKing88 well not really.. Saying she IS hot implies that u, at your current age, think she's hot. the 'to this day' part further implies that after all these years she turns u on as an adult... And the wink at the end, seems to seal the deal on your degree of pervyness. :P
guypursin 10 months ago
@guypursin I mean if she was 13 or 14 i could understand, but 12...?? that's just sick!! >.<
guypursin 10 months ago
@guypursin okay. I thought it through and i was like 4 or 5. i am 17. not an adult. and another thing. do you realize that you are ranting on about a 30 second 90's BK commercial? why does it matter? and the whole saying she's hot was suppose to be a joke. did i say i happily jerked off to the picture of the girl? no i didn't. i would like that thumbs up now
PhantomKing88 10 months ago
@PhantomKing88 Lol.. I wasn't ranting. it was more banter than anything. Mostly due to boredom...
guypursin 10 months ago
Blonde kid is hot. 83
Angeliclily 2 years ago
The animated goggles one. XD
Angeliclily 2 years ago
i saw a pic of the whole kids club and was just staring at it trying to remember where id seen it, cant believe i forgot all about them, the memories
dianniscool 2 years ago
wow, I forgot how PC the 90's were. Every animated cartoon always had a wheelchair kid.
The1CamBo 2 years ago 3
I Miss The Kid's Club So Much. The Big Kids Meal is what killed it off, DARN YOU WILD WILD WEST!
stupidstuffx 2 years ago
XDDD i love that movie. i had he glasses! BUT MAN I MISS THESE GUYS
PhantomKing88 2 years ago 2
kid in wheelchair=so much fail
henryguitarhero 2 years ago
It's been so many years. I remeber seeing his commercial specifically in I don't know how long. Ironically I got reminded of these guys thanks to the Barney bunch.
Trickishismael360 2 years ago
lol, i sooo remember this, i still watch my TMNT vhs just so i can watch these ads again,lol
soulhunter91 2 years ago
OH WOW, I remember this commercial!
HighFlyingAddict 2 years ago
handicap people were accepted in the 90s
HavokkG1 2 years ago 35
@HavokkG1 yeah the 90's was a time when you had friends you had them from different parts of the world. you dong out with white,black,mexican,asian,indian,ect all you want to do is to hang out and play but now it's way different.
burby8100 1 year ago
@HavokkG1 yeah nowa days their considered worthless
sonikdude49 1 year ago
Really? I've never heard of someone who's offended by people in wheelchairs. Oh, well. This is the internet.
TheGameNinja 2 years ago
And now for Sarcasm 101. It's clear this character was included so that no one would feel left out of offended. Therefore, I said he offended me. Class dismissed.
TheGameNinja 2 years ago
*or, not of
TheGameNinja 2 years ago
lil fyi for you kido's kids club chartchers were first introduced in 87 they didnt air reguarly till 90's but every so often from 87-89 they'd pop up on tv
majormana1 2 years ago
The kid in the wheelchair offends me.
TheGameNinja 2 years ago
OHHH SNAP! i remember this one! dang.. i was wondering what ever happen to the bk mascots.. and i had to find out. but dang... what a throwback!
NEG2009 2 years ago
AWESOME! I used to love these commercials. This was on the vhs of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze. This brings me back to the time when I was a little kid. I wish The kids club was still around.
SuperMonsterMike 2 years ago
Burger King used to taste better back then for reason. I wonder what changed?
beanny89 2 years ago 5
I HAD ALL OF THESE ACTION FIGURES
HuskerRedTradition 2 years ago
It's pretty pathetic how lazy animators are nowadays. Commercials in the 90's had so much effort put into them. Today they just don't care cause it's all CG.
FreakinSweet87 2 years ago 2
::sigh:: man I miss the 90s! 2000s suck! What I wouldn't give for a time machine!!!
RodStewartfan1 2 years ago 29
@RodStewartfan1 Yay for dial-up internet, rampant drug use, horrible fashion styles, and 16 bit graphics!
Yup, sure was better in every way!
There certainly were a lot of nice things in the 90s but there were an equal share of BAD things. We need to bring back all that was good about the 90s, and we need it NOW. This generation should have the awesomeness of the past 2 decades combined!
Chronische 1 year ago
ha i remember this good times
moijoke13 2 years ago
I was in the Burger King Kids Club!!!! Wow! Memories!
shaa0411 2 years ago 8
the kid who catches the burger looks like Will Smith
Bizbob96 2 years ago
Yeah, and Boomer looks like Akane Kimidori from Dr. Slump, I./Q. looks like Napoleon Dynamite...
RedRanger2001 2 years ago
OH WHY NOT THE OLD COMMERCIAL WHY!
realgocool1 2 years ago
90's rule 2000's drool is what i say.
dweezler 2 years ago 3
except the early part like from 2000 to 2004.
burby8100 2 years ago
Whatever happens to these commercials? They're way better than the trash commercials Burger King puts out for kids meals, like the recent Spongebob one.
MacDragard 2 years ago
Booty is Booty so dumb
Bizbob96 2 years ago
Way better than that creepy Burger King mascot who molests people in bed with that fake creepy grin.
KurtmanJP 2 years ago 5
I remember this commercial of Burger King from the VHS copy of Ninjas Turtles 2: Secret Of the Ooze.
hdna12 2 years ago 5
SAME HERE MAN!! then after that commerical it shows surbanian commando with hulk hogan huh?
burby8100 2 years ago 2
Diggidy doooo!
makoea 2 years ago
those were the fucking days man and then came the 2000s
crispycumnuggets 2 years ago 8
i knw, right?
KTE118 2 years ago
*sigh* yeah.....
xsmitty23x 2 years ago
You got that right! I love the 1990's Commercial's of Burger King.
hdna12 2 years ago
That´s an illusion, we now have the fucking package! It´s just a shame theyare buring jewels like this and replacing them with shit.
frostare 2 years ago
Right. Stop it. This is too silly.
TheHelldragon 2 years ago
"Can you make that two?" so cute...
thevisualboy37 2 years ago
Big Kids Meal has Double Hamburger/Cheeseburger and 6-or-8 piece Chicken Tender while the BK Kids Club has a regular Hamburger/Cheeseburger and 4 piece Chicken Tender.
RedRanger2001 3 years ago
Nice trick, Boomer!
RedRanger2001 3 years ago 2
Kid Vid! Jaws! Boomer! Wheels! ahhhh my childhood!
goldenchick85 3 years ago
lol i actully saw a crippled guy working the fries...... lmao
xxl3anditxx 3 years ago
That's Wheels.
RedRanger2001 3 years ago
the burgers r straight up microwaved...but delicious nd the fries u gotta have fries
xX9CHiNiTO5Xx 3 years ago
I really like the old movie/commercial music. Now its just some techno that you could barerly hear...Right?
mapomonster 3 years ago 2