Thats right, George couldnt have planned it and carried it out alone, but thats not the quest. The point is that video forgeries were issued by the Media of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and local NY stations, although some of the NY TV stations were intentionally black out from broadcasting that morning. Once you see that manipulation was used in one of the videos, then how can you trust any portion of the so-called amatuer vid. The mastery is in the phoney vids, the rest is repitition for the viewer.
i like how at 4:53 the video expert who is supposed to be very intelligent says "well as I'm a video analysist". Nice intelligent word, don't you mean analyst? This is just a bunch of dicks with nothing better to do then sit around discussing something that will never be proven or dis-proven. Time spent doing something else would be more productive.
Ace Baker is not the one that should be revealing all of the vdieo forgeries of 9/11 but the people that have the actual experience in this type of expertise, will never come forward and show the world just how easy it is to make these cheap fakes, of hairy non-reflective planes, on a clear sunny day. Yeah right. the American people are dupes sheeple, easily conned They might as well used flying elephants in these fake vids.
No remains of the dead were found and verified from any aircraft passenger list. No question that the planes were patched into the videos. The videos from the ground up were manufactured in a studio. Not very good, but good enough to fool the American People.
Ace was right, the vids were faked, and no planes were needed to effect the attack on the Pentagon, WTC or the Shnksvile. Only missiles, deception, and the Media leading the charge.
@nongratis1 Your post was two paragraphs of ignorant lies, but that's pretty much standard for someone who listens to Ace Baker and thinks he's intelligent. BTW, you know jack shit about video, I teach motion graphics at a university. I would school you, but you didn't support your statement so there's nothing to debunk.
"Only missiles"
Missiles that left a plane sized hole, when everyone saw and took video of planes?
See for yourself. The gun shot is at the end. Odd editing near middle of the tape, where they show Ace caught trying some BS experiment, what he is infamous for, but he gets the host going talking about his dead parents, not wanting to live anymore, sobbing, then a lound boom.
Still think the doofus Ace has a shread of credibllty? Well on another show same host got a hold of this bozo and on live air via phone, you hear a gun shot. As you would expect the host freaked thinking Ass, oops, I mean Ace actually blew his own brains out but no... just another feeble fake attempt. This is is a Grade A nut job.
For those that don't know the depths of Ace Baker's insanity, let me get you up to speed. In additon to the claims he made here, he also is on record suggesting the government took all the passengers off the 4 planes, flew them to some military base and there they were all murdered, by the government of course. He also believes none of moon missions werre real, again, faked by government. This goof is missing more than a few marbles.
Um the fucking FOAM off the space shuttle Columbia punched though its wing and the FOAM weighed less than a pound and this jack ass is saying aluminium cant penetrate steel?
@Evirthewarrior can a bullet shoot through a concrete wall?can a bullet shoot through 9' steel?a bullet is made of copper flies at twice the speed of the plane and would NOT pass through steel beams[hence steel bullet proof cars]yet you are calling him a jackass for not believing aluminium can cut trough steel and concrete?i wouldn't boast about my intelligence too much if i were you,just open your mind and listen to the evidence,only a fool can deny them.yr government is capable of anything!
@soullavee "can a bullet shoot through 9' steel?"
Um, do you mean 9" steel, or are you really saying 9 feet? No matter, the columns in the impact zone were 1/4", retard. And your bullet weighed 300,000lbs. Not to mention, it didn't have to go 'through the steel,' it just had to break the bolts holding the trusses together. If you really want to figure it out, answer this:
How many Joules does a 300,000lb plane carry, and whats the point load limit of the columns affected. Hmm.
@nobraintheory Yea 9 feet,you moron!my apologies for confusing you with the extra dot.Its always interesting how deniers call everyone a retard without giving this whole scenario more through.we are retards for not believing a tin plane can slice through steel,we are retards for not believing the twins' collapse,we are retards for not believing a plane just disintegrated on impact at the pentagon and now we are seeing a hologram but hey,we are just a bunch of retards.your username sure suits you
@soullavee "Yea 9 feet,you moron!my apologies for confusing you with the extra dot"
Actually you needed another 'dot,' but you're the one that's confused because the impacted columns were .25 inches thick.
"a tin plane can slice through steel"
Tin? 767s are made of aluminum alloy, titanium, steel, etc., and weigh 300,000lbs. Do you know how much energy that carries when traveling at 500mph? No, because you didn't make it through high school like most twoofers.
Of course that still image does at first look a little blended. What they should have done here was make a point of the size of each floor on the building, taking into account the thickness of the wing. The point being that, at that distance with the blur you are unable to see the immediate outer damage on the building as the wing slices into it, where if you were to see it up close is probably a few feet wider than the wing.
"This guy can't possibly be this much in denial, he must be a governmnet agent! Nobody could be this stupid!" Save for the government agent bit, that's exactly how most people feel about truthers.
If this were a standard youtube debate, this would be the point where the "no planer" would start accusing truthers of being sheeple or government agents trying to conceal, "the truth."
The further into delusion you go, the bigger the conspiracy seems. Reality, the ultimate conspiracy.
brainwashed ASSHOLES!!!! NO F'ing conspiracy, real planes, real people died that day and had NOTHING to do with all of you peoples beloved enemy the NWO, BUSH, JEWS etc...or whoever the hell else is the flavor of the week for you morons....not a disinfo agent, not a neo-con, just someone who lives in reality, unlike you paranoid JERK OFFS!!! Get jobs or do something productive
Roquefortflies.......I see you deem yourself an aviation expert. I think not, dicuss air compression and its affects on airfoil design at low altitude. As a matter of fact what is the name of the effect that gives aircraft the ability to fly?
All modern passenger aircraft are designed to minimize trans-sonic instabilities, as they must survive rapid descent in the event of a decompression accident. Particular attention has to be paid to control surfaces, which need to remain effective when centers of pressure migrate. They tend to have all-moving control surfaces
The 767 impact was equivalent to a 3000 pound BOMB - followed by a 24,000 pound fuel/air BOMB
@ecologicalguy Ever heard of Mass X acceleration? A little thing called force. A piece of foam weighing virtually nothing punched a hole in the wing of the Space Shuttle. NASA didn't think it possible until they test fired a similar piece at the same speed on a section of test wing. Went clear through..
A 767 weighing 350,000 pounds doing 560 MPH? Hitting a big empty box of a building??
"you are an Uneducated gullible Moron and an idiot with NO intelligence, Logic or Understanding of 911."
Now it all makes sense. Somehow your litltle 9/11 taboo video solved the happenings of 9/11. Screw science, structural analysis of the collapse and all the evidence, a youtube kid knows better! ROFL You are a laughing stock, buddy. Are you pro or anti-truth movement? Just curious.
@TheObamaMorons Question it?? Dude.. how on earth can you look at 30 odd randomly shot videos of this event and sit here and claim that what took place really didn't. ???/
You sound like a crazy kook to me. I don't think your reasoning is logical or RATIONAL. So how does one argue with a crazy person? You can't.
So whats the point. ?? Have fun in your whacko world.
@TheObamaMorons No.. And i didn't say that. I just love how you guys work your ass off to fit all your stupid stories and make them work.. Damnit. Your another one of these people who think the plane should have just exploded on the facade. Like its hitting a brick bunker. Its not. Its hitting a structure that is LARGE.. absolutely!!.. But its MOSTLY just air. Its not a solid object. The tower is actually a very light construction.
@TheObamaMorons It probably would!! Riddle me this batman. A piece of foam weighing virtually nothing fell from the space shuttle. It punched a hole through the wing of the orbiter. NASA did not think it possible. Until they test fired a similar piece at the same speed. It went straight through. And the steel at the WTC was shattered by the plane. In fact the steel came apart at the bolted connections. The BOLTS failed. not the steel. A vid on YT shows this VERY well.
@TheObamaMorons ??? Where do you nuts come from?? Like honestly??
Your example is ridiculous. Take off your stupid hat!!
The building is not a solid object. Go look up its construction on Google. See how often the word 95% air is used. Its just a big empty box . With a floor and a bunch of drywall room dividers. There is nothing to it. The rest of it is just AIR!! The plane is 350,000 pounds of MASS.
I would have been surprised had it NOT gone thru it.
@TheObamaMorons Who said it was indestructible? JFC man.. take a physics class!!
Ever heard of Force=massX acceleration?
It doesn't matter what the plane is made of. What matters is how heavy it is and how fast it is moving. Oh.. and BTW... it doesn't come out the other side intact. So who said it was indestructible? No one!!
It is hitting a building that is largely AIR. Fire anything fast enough and it has FORCE. A 350,000 pound aircraft doing 560mph??
@TheObamaMorons my credible Physical evidence is the Plane videos, which show hollow EXTREMELY fragile Aluminum planes pass right on through steel concrete bldgs like a Ghost.
Are you fucking stupid or something?? Apparently so. The WTC was about 90% air. The columns at the level of the impact are 6/8ths of an inch thick. A B25 put a hole in the Empire state building in 1945. Technically this is a light aircraft. A 767 is 15X heavier
@TheObamaMorons LOL!! As if dude. I know what he said very well. I also know aviation very well.
Disinfo?? You nuts love that word don't you. Anything outside your religious defense of this "TM" crap is such a threat to you. You all act like its only YOU who can have an opinion on this stuff. Only YOU have the truth right? Anyone else is not to be trusted. Or shill or a disinfo agent.
NO amatuer could take quality pictures of a supposed plane going 500 mph. Missles were used on 9/11 at all the events. Simple sheeple will go on beileving that somehow boxcutter terrorists pulled off this attack with a old bearded fool hidding in Suadi. Only a fool would continue to believe in Alqueda pulling this off.
This man was payed off to go on the show and act like a jackass to make people believe that this is what everyone in 911 truth is like, when actually, I'd estimate about 98% of people who believe it was an inside job do not believe in no planes which is ridiculous and was manufactured by the government in order to discredit truth. Of coarse they were real planes, they had millions of witnesses, he is a dis info agent just like Charlie Veitch.
@EvilIntentions01 No it was not manufactured by the government, the government doesn't care. This is why they don't release the videos you want when the have the ability to fake videos, this is why they didn't kill Dylan Avery before Loose Change got big, or why they don't kill Alex Jones. They government knows you guys aint shit because all of your theories are wrong, if they were right, you would have no idea about it trust me.
@theBartone9119 They can not pull another Bill Cooper or a John F. Kennedy on Alex or Dylan because they will only prove Truth to be more right, AlienScientist and the 1500+ architects and engineers have been destroying debunkers for years now and the official story clearly falls apart like a joke when challenged against actual logic and physics. The person on this show is NOT a representative in any way shape or form of truth. An obvious dis-info agent who's goal is to misinform and distract.
@EvilIntentions01 the only part you got correct in your bullshit little post was this man is a jackass. However you fail to mention all Truthers are fucked up jackasses. The rest of your post was just pure bullshit and lies. The fact that you quote Alex Jones or Dylan Avery and refer to the sad pathetic little group AE911Truth as reliable sources of information only proves how fucked up an asshole you are.
One man does not speak for an entire race I always say, and the mainstream media will only let these individuals on because they are the least credible and are easy to debunk, they would never let someone like Richard Gage or Steven Jones on because they know they would get humiliated in front of a large audience. So they pick only the weak or they pay someone off.
Please watch this will you, it will help you understand.
@EvilIntentions01 Richard Gage and Steven Jones are fucking idiots also. Citing Jones or Gage as some type of reliable evidence or fact only proves how fucking stupid someone really is. You videos are bullshit lies. Truthers are fucking morons.
@12weasel100 Cursing? Insults? How pathetic, and what's more pathetic is you can't even properly rebut anything I say, "You videos(You? *your) videos are bullshit lies".
Yet you provide no evidence supporting this claim. Please, just stop embarrassing yourself and leave.
@EvilIntentions01 oh golly gee whiz picking on my typing skills (sarcasm). I respond to so many of you stupid assholes that typos do happen. Your response clearly proves that you are a fucking moron if you cannot understand a sentence with a typo in it then you are a moron. And you have not presented any facts you only quote idiots and spew out shit. Citing Gage or Jones as references is embarrassing. You sad pathetic fool.
Why did you remove your dumbass comment? Usually you idiots think your dumbass comments are actully well thought out and intelligent summaries of thorough analysis!
@flanksteak2 Just felt like denting your ego a bit more by reminding you I never stated anything about thermite in my first two posts, yet you make the claim I did out of thin air which makes you a liar and someone who can not hold any ground what so ever in a conversation.
Furthermore you cant seem to rebut anything from any of the videos I just sent you so I will leave you with this.
watch?v=VKFiGfW6aGY
Btw, "LMFAO!!!!" and LOL!!!!" are desperate attempts to get even.
"This man (Ace Baker) was payed off to go on the show and act like a jackass"
Actually, of the shows I saw, this guy came off as quite reasonable and well prepared compared to the other conspiracy guys. Gage and Fetzer embarrassed themselves in a way I couldn't imagine. Atleast this no plane guy had some stuff researched and was ready to join a debate without rhetorical beating around the bush or idiotic cardbox demonstartions and taking quotes out of context.
If Ace is a jackass, then Gage is an annoying moron from another planet. This is the really pathetic part of the truth movement, Richard Gage (an architect!) gets owned by a hobby debunker and looks even more stupid than a no-plane hobby researcher. Sad, sad, sad...
@EvilIntentions01 "98% of people who believe it was an inside job do not believe in no planes ". what a load of rubbish, the number of 'truthers' i have spoken to who think that there WERE NO planes and that it was rigged explosives or some other device are a lot higher than people like you who say it was indeed planes. how about the 9/11 truth movements sorts out what it believes because at the moment you just get a whole lot of rambling crap with no coherent idea.
@EvilIntentions01 Tell me is that the only excuse you have. Paid by the Government to act like this. I suppose you think that everyone who says they saw a missile hit the pentigon are liars?
how can you believe that on ground zero had been found remains of the victims that were on the planes who hit the towers, think logically you can (if of course we consider the idea that a plane hit the towers) clearly see that the palnes were disintegrated in the hit, hw than cuold they found stuff that belonged to the victims in the plane????????????
Du müsstest aber auch wissen, dass bei deinem Bild am Ende ein Kolbenmotorflugzeug in das Schiff geflogen ist, welches den Motor (das schwerste und stabielste Teil) dort wo das Loch ist eingetreten ist. Bei den Flugzeugen des 11. Septembers war dort das Cockpit welches zum größten Teil aus Aluminium und Carbon besteht. Idiot.
The guys claim of knowing an eyewitness is clearly BS. Nobody on the sidewalk in lower manhattan could have seen a plane hit the tower at that height. You would have to be walking down the street looking straight up, and even then your view of the plane would last less than a quarter of a second.as it crossed the entire open space from one side of the street to the other.There is no place at all where you could see a plane approach and hit from ground level.
@txsray1 "Nobody on the sidewalk in lower manhattan could have seen a plane hit the tower at that height."
Um, that's not true at all, how did people film it then. There are plenty of places on the street that had an unobstructed view of the upper WTC floors. Have you ever been to Manhattan?
"There is no place at all where you could see a plane approach and hit from ground level."
An absolute lie. Again, people filmed this. No planers are dumb as shit.
The supposed "debunker" admits he "cut, I took the later shot and fit it over the collision point." Then when Baker points out that a kerosene explosion will not destroy steel the supposed "debunker" implies a "finite element analyst" would disagree.
So the "debunker" himself is using a fake video he made and relies on an imaginary expert he invents to address Baker's charges of fake video.
Later investigation indicated that a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line in the vicinity of frame 80. The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb which was the first explosion,
AT THE END HERES THE REAL INFO! Later investigation indicated that a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line in the vicinity of frame 80. The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb which was the first explosion,
@cincyblows Because this is what most witnesses saw that day: watch?v=kJi2K8mKTRM
A majority of the eyewitnesses (not people that were watching a TV) said they saw a small plane about the size of a Lear jet. Sounds like they saw the above cruise missile.
@historian500 If you believe that i suggest you check out Kevin Goat gallery on PICASA. (Google it).
Hi resolution photos of the aftermath including easily identifiable 767 parts wedged in to WTC debris on the street and enough dismembered body parts to gross out the most jaded 911 wanker.
If you can't connect up COMMERCIAL AIRLINER VS BUILDING from that i can't help you.
@roquefortfiles - Dude, twoofers hate facts and photos. They like to concentrate solely on wild speculation and lies. Don't confuse them, it's all they've got.
"The missile's development began in 1995, but a number of problems during testing delayed its introduction into service until 2009."
"production of the JASSM began in December 2001."
"The weapon began operational testing and evaluation in 2002. Late that year, two missiles failed tests and the project was delayed for three months before completing development in April 2003."
How you could reference this article and not understand it is beyond me.
@cincyblows Because this is what most witnesses saw that day: watch?v=kJi2K8mKTRM
A majority of the eyewitnesses (not people that were watching a TV) said they saw a small plane about the size of a Lear jet. Sounds like they saw the above cruise missile.
Dave Bottiglia is the AT Controller who was responsible for U175. Despite having its transponder turned off the target still shows on radar. Dave tracked it all the way to the WTC. Even counting down the descending altitudes as it went. It was descending so fast they thought he was going in the water. Then someone yelled.."no the tower's".
For Mr Ace Pastry chef's story to have any validity.
Dave forgets how to do his job that day?? U decide.
I saw the 2nd plane hit LIVE on tv, some time around 9:3o am, it was LIVE, not recorded and edited, and guess what..... IT WAS A PLANE!! This musician guy is a retard, sorry to say it, but he's an idiot.
@ImyManz99 I don't even have to think about a response, because just by saying that, you've made yourself look like a complete retard. I know your type, you'll believe any conspiracy you here at face value. Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on youtube.
Truthers, if you want to prove your point, reverse engineer the entire DAY of 9-11, plan it the way you all think it happened, finance it, find the thousands of people who will lie to the public on your behalf and say it was planes, plant ground reporters in every news agency that will cover your day to also lie to the public, find the technology you will require to create such illusions, ask for people who will volunteer to fake they are going somewhere on a plane, then hide them forever.
I love how everyone is an expert on what happens when a Boeing 767 flys head first into a skyscraper. Get rid of all the unknowns, and you end up not knowing a fucking thing. You and I have no idea what would have happened, what should have happened, why things did or did not happen. This is such a waste of time, all of you "truthers" need to find something else to get involved in, how about some community service? Spend a day with a mentally handicapped individual, you'll fit right in.
@Orochore well you do know that a building collapsing on itself due to isolated structural failure would not do so in a symmetric fashion at a near freefall speed.
this mother f.....r Jew presenter compare talking about Jew to talking about reptilian ovanoid.That is what they do trivialise their murder and get everyone to believe that there was a plane that hit the tower and lol the nose of the plane even comes out intact.In their haste to do so they thought they achieved the best compouter simulated one yeah BUT FOR 6 YEARS ONLY.Busted evil JEW!!!
@koolkol009 - Hey man, not sure if you caught the news the other day, but we hunted down your boy OBL and shot him like a dog. Then, we threw the body into the ocean.
"this mother f.....r Jew presenter compare talking about Jew to talking about reptilian ovanoid."
Hey, you write like a retarded ferret. Do they have schools in the shit hole where you live? You should go to one.
@RomneyPHONY Shut up. You and and your buddy here Ace Pastry Baker are idiots. Plain and simple. I have friends in NY who witnessed this live. Tell this crap to people like the lady in the Sky lobby who was nearly killed by U175's wing. Tell this to Brian Clark who had 175's wing tip impaled in his ceiling. Tell this to Lisa Frosts parents. She was on 175 and her hip fragment recovered at the WTC. Tell this Dave Bottiglia at air traffic control assigned to 175.
Like really who the fuck is Ace Baker and why do we give a flying fuck about this musician and his retarded take on Sept 11th. ??
So i suppose this guy is reacting to "No Planes" the nothingness that hit the WTC and the surrounding pedestrians screaming in horror.. YUP!! Nothing there that day..
watch?v=z9nwIrvs3to&feature=feedrec_grec_index
Like Ace.. play your piano.. shut up!! Nobody pays attention to this crap. Except the brain addled "truthers"..
@RomneyPHONY - Ace, you finally couldn't help yourself. You had to come to videos of yourself and spam them, just like you've been banned for multiple times. AceBaker911, LifeRegenRevolution, LegPains, etc., all shut down, just like this one will be, because your dumb ass just can't play by the rules. Retard loser.
The last photo of the Kamikaze: note anything special about the wing marks on the ship? ;) Have you read anything about what a Kamikaze plane actually contained? Try read some.
A MUSICIAN! wtf!!!! a new kind of expert? has he ever seen a plane full of fuel, for a trip to California, purposely fly into a building at full speed? or what about a plane go into a field at full sped upside down? "it should have made a bigger hole"! f-ups!
aluminum will penetrate some steel at the cost of it's own destruction.
It is laughable to continue to argue that aluminum will penetrate hundreds of steel columns and emerge out of it perfectly intact. Just one small piece of irrefutable evidence. The audio production of the entire hoax is astonishingly manipulated as well. Watch September Clues. Namaste
your last shot of Kamikaze penetrating steel is so deceiving - lair lair pants on fire.
This small rocket powered aircraft was used by the Japanese navy at the end of WWII as a desperate means of attacking allied capital ships.
After release from the mother aircraft (a Mitsubishi G4M2e "Betty" bomber) the rocket motor would ignite to give the vehicle a range of about 20 miles.
The kamikazi pilot would then guide the plane, its nose laden with high explosive, onto the target.
@checkThrice you copied and pasted that didn't you, anyway the okha didn't have twin engines on its wings so your as usual, just another twoofer taking shit.
@checkThrice "a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line" "The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb ..." wikipedi
the tony kawasaki ki-61 was a prop fighter. you can clearly see parts of the wings penetrated the hull.
. The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb which was the first explosion, a ten inch hole in the engine room about 2 feet above the water line caused by a bomb which was later discovered as a dud, and a four foot hole in Compartment A-304-EL a crew's berthing space, caused by a bomb which was the second explosion."
@checkThrice How the fuck can you compare a little light weight WW2 fighter plane striking a heavily armored hull to a huge-ass airplane hitting a completely un-armored side of a sky scraper?
OMFG!!! WHERE On earth do these people come from?? Where are these peoples sense of LOGIC? If this event had been photographed by one person, one camera. You MIGHT have a point. (But even just looking at the video he showed would be enough for me)..But not when this event was shot by HUNDREDS of random sources, pros and amateurs alike.
Stunningly ridiculous. It is not even worth giving this guy an interview for. Retarded pablum.
The concrete/w/steel reinforced floors would have scredded that tin can to ribbons, nothing would have come out the other side. After the explosion and 50 ft. of fake plane was sticking out,when the flames died down about 2 secs. later, what happened to the big fuselage sticking out. Did it go back in. hahah. it didn't fall down. I watched and you should too. PLUS, you morons, I have a shot of the place it was supposed to have come out and it is NOT damaged with a hole for a place to come out
"I'm a master metallurgist. Trust me. A plane can't go through this type of building and come out the other side."
So tell me the physics that proves the Joules of a 350,000lb plane going around 500mph couldn't exceed the point load force of the 1/4" steel columns impacted. Face it, dipshit, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about here, and you would say anything to support your stupid no plane theory. Show me the math or you're lying.
@nobraintheory Hey man i got news for you. The WTC is 95% air. Despite what people think of this giant building it is an incredibly light construction. It is the outer wall and then 60 feet clear span to the core of the building. Seen any back lit photos of this building? There is nothing to it!! The plane is doing 540mph and weighs 300,000 pds. A piece of foam that fell off the space shuttle punched a hole in the wing. It was not thought possible until NASA test fired it at 3000mph.
@sssssjjjj1 "No plane can go through this type of building."
Bullshit...9/11 wasn't the first time and it wont be the last. 1945 B-25 bomber smashed into the Empire State Building. Leaving a very similar mark that was left on the WTC. The B-25 is considerably smaller than a 757, Considerably slower, about a tenth of the weight and didn't even carry a tenth of the gas. The engine flew through the building and landed on a 12 story building across 33rd street.
People, the official story are liars. If they weren't they wouldn't even be doing this show. hahahahhaa Don't you see you morons. For one thing. Guess who's floors were hit on first tower, gw bushes 1st cousin dorothys husband zionists. Guess whos floors got hit on 2nd tower, Paul Bremmers floors. You know, appointed iraq prime minister. hahahaha. Then 8 billion in cash missing. No body questioned. hahahaha. Guess who was on 93rd floor. 1floor up. 18mossad agents claiming to be artists.ha
@sssssjjjj1 So planes have hit buildiings in the past and parts have come out the other side. You going to tell me the fabricated that 1945 story back in 1945. Get a life.
the dude doesn't even have his films together. There is no doubt there were NO planes at wtc. These people are liars. Nothing but liars. I'm a master metallurgist. Trust me. A plane can't go through this type of building and come out the other side. It would crash against it and most, about 90% would fall onto the ground. This guys stupid story of I know a girl who hates george bush. blah blah. For one thing it was a 737 engine that was on the sidewalk. United does NOT use that engine!
You cannot stop the perps from trying to do patch jobs on their atrocious work in the years since the orig on 9/11. Almost all footage was prepared long in advance then looped and inserted just like a commercial. Then they silenced, added screamers, later. Ghost plane entered the bldg. and left not a scratch for a split second or so.
No planers are mentally disturbed listen to webfairy speak on the Howard stern show or watch nico haupt wow mind Blowing they are nuts like no joke very crazy peopl. Nico haupt I's the one who started to phrase "TV fakery" and he is an admitted meth addict and is currently homeless wow lol
"dude you are so lost!! the whole things was fake."
You were a 14 year old in Sweden at the time of 9/11, you don't know shit about what happened. Your opinion is based on nothing but dipshit conspiracy videos on youtube, not firsthand knowledge.
@Armin112 - Yes, if you want to know what really happened on 9/11, ask someone who was 14 years old and in Sweden at the time. Armin - why do you think you know more than the people who were there?
there are 47 steel coloums that plane nose had to penetrate, aluminium cant do that to steel, shit who knows what happened, but saudi and brit intel. were involved. peter power might know he was running drills on 7/7 and his buSiness partner MAYOR GULIANNI !!!
Later investigation indicated that a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line in the vicinity of frame 80.
So you see it was not an aluminum plane that penetrated the steel. It was a 132 lb. Bomb attached to the plane which went off on impact. The second bomb went off later, and the third bomb was a dud.
Everone has a friend who saw the planes hit. Somebody's uncle or grandpa. They wouldn't lie. I wonder why there are few first hand accounts. Oh yeah, the Harley guy saw it. And Gary Welz saw it. Paid actors without a doubt. And a few annomous internet trolls.
No matter how much these "experts" try to twist the laws of physics. planes cannot fly into buildings without encountering resistance.
These planes were fake CGI just as sure as all the fakery on a football field during a live telecast.
Yet you can't use physics to prove your point, and you aren't a physicist. Just another dipshit twoofer repeating the same crap over and over with no proof. That's why the world laughs at you.
"All were saying is:the videos are faked."
You know nothing about video and you have no explanation for how nearly 50 amateur videos captured the same thing from all angles or the thousands of live witnesses.
And it didn't. Plane hit, explosion, big gaping plane hole.
"The guy's not saying there wasnt any plane"
Wrong. Ace Baker is a no planer.
"What make's you think I'm no physisist ?"
Well, for one you can't spell it... oh well. Can you tell me how many Joules a 350,000lb plane traveling 500mph carries, and the point load limit for the columns impacted? I can't seem to get a straight answer from the twoof movement on this one.
@nobraintheory What explanation is needed for that? Few if any showed the plane hit other than the CNN video, they just showed a side on view of the plane disappearing into a building and it exploding. How do YOU explain the identical audio taken from several different videos?
Why does no one ask why the explosion happened? Gas/jet fuel doesn't simply explode on contact with surfaces... flame or electrical spark is needed to ignite the vapors of the fuel, which is the flammable part, not the liquid itself. This Hollywood looking explosion isn't a redflag?
@threepercenter03 On impact, at those speeds, wouldn't there be enough heat to light the gas? Kind of like when you get in a car accident, the heat that ingnites the fuel tank (sometimes, in certain crashes you see that result in fire) is caused itself by the impact.
@13linkinparkluver13 I don't know if there's a speed vs. friction that would equal ignition... we expect to see that because of Hollywood blowing shit up... car crash + explosion = entertainment. But fuel isn't flammable, it's fumes are, but must be ignited... was there ignition?
Thats right, George couldnt have planned it and carried it out alone, but thats not the quest. The point is that video forgeries were issued by the Media of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and local NY stations, although some of the NY TV stations were intentionally black out from broadcasting that morning. Once you see that manipulation was used in one of the videos, then how can you trust any portion of the so-called amatuer vid. The mastery is in the phoney vids, the rest is repitition for the viewer.
nongratis1 3 weeks ago
Sure, and that iceberg that Titanic hit was a "ghost" too.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 4 weeks ago
i like how at 4:53 the video expert who is supposed to be very intelligent says "well as I'm a video analysist". Nice intelligent word, don't you mean analyst? This is just a bunch of dicks with nothing better to do then sit around discussing something that will never be proven or dis-proven. Time spent doing something else would be more productive.
KillaX2 4 weeks ago
kamikaze plains had steel engines tho
MrMaginl 1 month ago
@MrMaginl - What were the jet engines made out of?
nobraintheory 1 month ago
@nobraintheory Probably the same as the Jet engines at Pentagon.
So I wonder to.
MrMaginl 1 month ago
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@MrMaginl - "kamikaze plains had steel engines tho"
What material were they made out of? Are you saying there's no steel in them?
nobraintheory 1 month ago
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"Explosives were used to create the wide gaping holes"
Then why are the exterior columns clearly pushed inwards? Did the explosives pull things towards them?
"So you actually believe these fakes were real live feed? Hah"
No, none of the videos they're talking about here were live. But I'm sure you knew that...
Again, how did the media put CGI planes on citizens footage, and alter the memories of all the witnesses?
nobraintheory 1 month ago
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nobraintheory 1 month ago
Ace Baker is not the one that should be revealing all of the vdieo forgeries of 9/11 but the people that have the actual experience in this type of expertise, will never come forward and show the world just how easy it is to make these cheap fakes, of hairy non-reflective planes, on a clear sunny day. Yeah right. the American people are dupes sheeple, easily conned They might as well used flying elephants in these fake vids.
nongratis1 1 month ago
No remains of the dead were found and verified from any aircraft passenger list. No question that the planes were patched into the videos. The videos from the ground up were manufactured in a studio. Not very good, but good enough to fool the American People.
Ace was right, the vids were faked, and no planes were needed to effect the attack on the Pentagon, WTC or the Shnksvile. Only missiles, deception, and the Media leading the charge.
nongratis1 1 month ago
@nongratis1 Your post was two paragraphs of ignorant lies, but that's pretty much standard for someone who listens to Ace Baker and thinks he's intelligent. BTW, you know jack shit about video, I teach motion graphics at a university. I would school you, but you didn't support your statement so there's nothing to debunk.
"Only missiles"
Missiles that left a plane sized hole, when everyone saw and took video of planes?
"the Media"
Cause the media put planes on citizen's cameras?
nobraintheory 1 month ago
@nongratis1 - BTW, what does a guy like you do for a living? What is your experience with video production?
nobraintheory 1 month ago
Wow is this guy retarded!
angryfoodie 2 months ago
Think I'm kidding?
See for yourself. The gun shot is at the end. Odd editing near middle of the tape, where they show Ace caught trying some BS experiment, what he is infamous for, but he gets the host going talking about his dead parents, not wanting to live anymore, sobbing, then a lound boom.
watch?v=X0RUy_y41QM
willieofroanoke 2 months ago
Still think the doofus Ace has a shread of credibllty? Well on another show same host got a hold of this bozo and on live air via phone, you hear a gun shot. As you would expect the host freaked thinking Ass, oops, I mean Ace actually blew his own brains out but no... just another feeble fake attempt. This is is a Grade A nut job.
willieofroanoke 2 months ago
For those that don't know the depths of Ace Baker's insanity, let me get you up to speed. In additon to the claims he made here, he also is on record suggesting the government took all the passengers off the 4 planes, flew them to some military base and there they were all murdered, by the government of course. He also believes none of moon missions werre real, again, faked by government. This goof is missing more than a few marbles.
willieofroanoke 2 months ago
Um the fucking FOAM off the space shuttle Columbia punched though its wing and the FOAM weighed less than a pound and this jack ass is saying aluminium cant penetrate steel?
Evirthewarrior 3 months ago
@Evirthewarrior can a bullet shoot through a concrete wall?can a bullet shoot through 9' steel?a bullet is made of copper flies at twice the speed of the plane and would NOT pass through steel beams[hence steel bullet proof cars]yet you are calling him a jackass for not believing aluminium can cut trough steel and concrete?i wouldn't boast about my intelligence too much if i were you,just open your mind and listen to the evidence,only a fool can deny them.yr government is capable of anything!
soullavee 1 month ago
@soullavee "can a bullet shoot through 9' steel?"
Um, do you mean 9" steel, or are you really saying 9 feet? No matter, the columns in the impact zone were 1/4", retard. And your bullet weighed 300,000lbs. Not to mention, it didn't have to go 'through the steel,' it just had to break the bolts holding the trusses together. If you really want to figure it out, answer this:
How many Joules does a 300,000lb plane carry, and whats the point load limit of the columns affected. Hmm.
nobraintheory 1 month ago
@nobraintheory Yea 9 feet,you moron!my apologies for confusing you with the extra dot.Its always interesting how deniers call everyone a retard without giving this whole scenario more through.we are retards for not believing a tin plane can slice through steel,we are retards for not believing the twins' collapse,we are retards for not believing a plane just disintegrated on impact at the pentagon and now we are seeing a hologram but hey,we are just a bunch of retards.your username sure suits you
soullavee 1 month ago
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@soullavee "Yea 9 feet,you moron!my apologies for confusing you with the extra dot"
Actually you needed another 'dot,' but you're the one that's confused because the impacted columns were .25 inches thick.
"a tin plane can slice through steel"
Tin? 767s are made of aluminum alloy, titanium, steel, etc., and weigh 300,000lbs. Do you know how much energy that carries when traveling at 500mph? No, because you didn't make it through high school like most twoofers.
nobraintheory 1 month ago
Apparently lighter objects cant penetrate heavier ones according to that jackass. Maybe he would like to be hit by a paintball at 600 mph.
htomerif 3 months ago
Wow, that musician is a supersonic retard.
Of course that still image does at first look a little blended. What they should have done here was make a point of the size of each floor on the building, taking into account the thickness of the wing. The point being that, at that distance with the blur you are unable to see the immediate outer damage on the building as the wing slices into it, where if you were to see it up close is probably a few feet wider than the wing.
A child can understand it
Zero7evenX 3 months ago
That idiot (Ace?) obviously has never seen footage of a bunker busting bomb hitting concrete.
petehjr1 3 months ago 9
"This guy can't possibly be this much in denial, he must be a governmnet agent! Nobody could be this stupid!" Save for the government agent bit, that's exactly how most people feel about truthers.
If this were a standard youtube debate, this would be the point where the "no planer" would start accusing truthers of being sheeple or government agents trying to conceal, "the truth."
The further into delusion you go, the bigger the conspiracy seems. Reality, the ultimate conspiracy.
Dream0Asylum 3 months ago
False!
Clearly, What went down was Bear, Beets, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!
macandease 3 months ago
bush = jar-jar binks
stupid yes, but seat of power?
compendiumgravemind 3 months ago
dumb argument
Archangel23S 3 months ago
Thumps up if you have seen "Mythbusters: Demolition Derby Special - Rockets Pancake Car"
MrAcenan 3 months ago
brainwashed ASSHOLES!!!! NO F'ing conspiracy, real planes, real people died that day and had NOTHING to do with all of you peoples beloved enemy the NWO, BUSH, JEWS etc...or whoever the hell else is the flavor of the week for you morons....not a disinfo agent, not a neo-con, just someone who lives in reality, unlike you paranoid JERK OFFS!!! Get jobs or do something productive
mherrenschmidt 3 months ago
ppl actually believe this??
Shakou78910 3 months ago
no planes hit the WTC. That's beyond obvious.
anthonyc31 4 months ago
Roquefortflies.......I see you deem yourself an aviation expert. I think not, dicuss air compression and its affects on airfoil design at low altitude. As a matter of fact what is the name of the effect that gives aircraft the ability to fly?
bkayganich 4 months ago
@bkayganich Venturi - Bernoulli - Euler - Navier-Stokes
All modern passenger aircraft are designed to minimize trans-sonic instabilities, as they must survive rapid descent in the event of a decompression accident. Particular attention has to be paid to control surfaces, which need to remain effective when centers of pressure migrate. They tend to have all-moving control surfaces
The 767 impact was equivalent to a 3000 pound BOMB - followed by a 24,000 pound fuel/air BOMB
Double whammy or what
beachcomber2008 4 months ago
@ecologicalguy Ever heard of Mass X acceleration? A little thing called force. A piece of foam weighing virtually nothing punched a hole in the wing of the Space Shuttle. NASA didn't think it possible until they test fired a similar piece at the same speed on a section of test wing. Went clear through..
A 767 weighing 350,000 pounds doing 560 MPH? Hitting a big empty box of a building??
It would do it with EASE!!
And did.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
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@TheObamaMorons
"you are an Uneducated gullible Moron and an idiot with NO intelligence, Logic or Understanding of 911."
Now it all makes sense. Somehow your litltle 9/11 taboo video solved the happenings of 9/11. Screw science, structural analysis of the collapse and all the evidence, a youtube kid knows better! ROFL You are a laughing stock, buddy. Are you pro or anti-truth movement? Just curious.
NotableJInx2 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons Question it?? Dude.. how on earth can you look at 30 odd randomly shot videos of this event and sit here and claim that what took place really didn't. ???/
You sound like a crazy kook to me. I don't think your reasoning is logical or RATIONAL. So how does one argue with a crazy person? You can't.
So whats the point. ?? Have fun in your whacko world.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons No.. And i didn't say that. I just love how you guys work your ass off to fit all your stupid stories and make them work.. Damnit. Your another one of these people who think the plane should have just exploded on the facade. Like its hitting a brick bunker. Its not. Its hitting a structure that is LARGE.. absolutely!!.. But its MOSTLY just air. Its not a solid object. The tower is actually a very light construction.
Your stories and lack of brain power are stunning
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons It probably would!! Riddle me this batman. A piece of foam weighing virtually nothing fell from the space shuttle. It punched a hole through the wing of the orbiter. NASA did not think it possible. Until they test fired a similar piece at the same speed. It went straight through. And the steel at the WTC was shattered by the plane. In fact the steel came apart at the bolted connections. The BOLTS failed. not the steel. A vid on YT shows this VERY well.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons ??? Where do you nuts come from?? Like honestly??
Your example is ridiculous. Take off your stupid hat!!
The building is not a solid object. Go look up its construction on Google. See how often the word 95% air is used. Its just a big empty box . With a floor and a bunch of drywall room dividers. There is nothing to it. The rest of it is just AIR!! The plane is 350,000 pounds of MASS.
I would have been surprised had it NOT gone thru it.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons Who said it was indestructible? JFC man.. take a physics class!!
Ever heard of Force=massX acceleration?
It doesn't matter what the plane is made of. What matters is how heavy it is and how fast it is moving. Oh.. and BTW... it doesn't come out the other side intact. So who said it was indestructible? No one!!
It is hitting a building that is largely AIR. Fire anything fast enough and it has FORCE. A 350,000 pound aircraft doing 560mph??
Dude.. wake up.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons my credible Physical evidence is the Plane videos, which show hollow EXTREMELY fragile Aluminum planes pass right on through steel concrete bldgs like a Ghost.
Are you fucking stupid or something?? Apparently so. The WTC was about 90% air. The columns at the level of the impact are 6/8ths of an inch thick. A B25 put a hole in the Empire state building in 1945. Technically this is a light aircraft. A 767 is 15X heavier
Take a physics class Einstein!!
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons LOL!! As if dude. I know what he said very well. I also know aviation very well.
Disinfo?? You nuts love that word don't you. Anything outside your religious defense of this "TM" crap is such a threat to you. You all act like its only YOU who can have an opinion on this stuff. Only YOU have the truth right? Anyone else is not to be trusted. Or shill or a disinfo agent.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons
Watched it proved nothing. Wikd ass speculation with no credible physical evidence.
crwlarry3356 4 months ago
@TheObamaMorons
"watch this vid 911 TABOO[...]
give me your Opinion on it."
No.
NotableJInx2 4 months ago
Anus the Musician.....What a moron. Fake plane? ROFL
Swordsfor200Alex 4 months ago
Anus Baker.... lol.
educution 5 months ago
NO amatuer could take quality pictures of a supposed plane going 500 mph. Missles were used on 9/11 at all the events. Simple sheeple will go on beileving that somehow boxcutter terrorists pulled off this attack with a old bearded fool hidding in Suadi. Only a fool would continue to believe in Alqueda pulling this off.
paskettle 6 months ago
This man was payed off to go on the show and act like a jackass to make people believe that this is what everyone in 911 truth is like, when actually, I'd estimate about 98% of people who believe it was an inside job do not believe in no planes which is ridiculous and was manufactured by the government in order to discredit truth. Of coarse they were real planes, they had millions of witnesses, he is a dis info agent just like Charlie Veitch.
EvilIntentions01 6 months ago 4
@EvilIntentions01 No it was not manufactured by the government, the government doesn't care. This is why they don't release the videos you want when the have the ability to fake videos, this is why they didn't kill Dylan Avery before Loose Change got big, or why they don't kill Alex Jones. They government knows you guys aint shit because all of your theories are wrong, if they were right, you would have no idea about it trust me.
theBartone9119 6 months ago
@theBartone9119 They can not pull another Bill Cooper or a John F. Kennedy on Alex or Dylan because they will only prove Truth to be more right, AlienScientist and the 1500+ architects and engineers have been destroying debunkers for years now and the official story clearly falls apart like a joke when challenged against actual logic and physics. The person on this show is NOT a representative in any way shape or form of truth. An obvious dis-info agent who's goal is to misinform and distract.
EvilIntentions01 6 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 the only part you got correct in your bullshit little post was this man is a jackass. However you fail to mention all Truthers are fucked up jackasses. The rest of your post was just pure bullshit and lies. The fact that you quote Alex Jones or Dylan Avery and refer to the sad pathetic little group AE911Truth as reliable sources of information only proves how fucked up an asshole you are.
12weasel100 5 months ago
@12weasel100 watch?v=VKFiGfW6aGY
One man does not speak for an entire race I always say, and the mainstream media will only let these individuals on because they are the least credible and are easy to debunk, they would never let someone like Richard Gage or Steven Jones on because they know they would get humiliated in front of a large audience. So they pick only the weak or they pay someone off.
Please watch this will you, it will help you understand.
watch?v=awy8cmcuBlk
EvilIntentions01 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 Richard Gage and Steven Jones are fucking idiots also. Citing Jones or Gage as some type of reliable evidence or fact only proves how fucking stupid someone really is. You videos are bullshit lies. Truthers are fucking morons.
12weasel100 5 months ago
@12weasel100 Cursing? Insults? How pathetic, and what's more pathetic is you can't even properly rebut anything I say, "You videos(You? *your) videos are bullshit lies".
Yet you provide no evidence supporting this claim. Please, just stop embarrassing yourself and leave.
EvilIntentions01 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 oh golly gee whiz picking on my typing skills (sarcasm). I respond to so many of you stupid assholes that typos do happen. Your response clearly proves that you are a fucking moron if you cannot understand a sentence with a typo in it then you are a moron. And you have not presented any facts you only quote idiots and spew out shit. Citing Gage or Jones as references is embarrassing. You sad pathetic fool.
12weasel100 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01
Yeaaaahhh riiiiight.
Smoke some more dope.
crwlarry3356 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 LOL
The sad part is that you think the thermite retards have more credibility than this No Planer dipshit.
flanksteak2 5 months ago
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EvilIntentions01 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 LMFAO!!!!!
Why did you remove your dumbass comment? Usually you idiots think your dumbass comments are actully well thought out and intelligent summaries of thorough analysis!
LOL!!!!!
flanksteak2 5 months ago
@flanksteak2 Just felt like denting your ego a bit more by reminding you I never stated anything about thermite in my first two posts, yet you make the claim I did out of thin air which makes you a liar and someone who can not hold any ground what so ever in a conversation.
Furthermore you cant seem to rebut anything from any of the videos I just sent you so I will leave you with this.
watch?v=VKFiGfW6aGY
Btw, "LMFAO!!!!" and LOL!!!!" are desperate attempts to get even.
EvilIntentions01 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 "Rebut my videozzzz"
LOL
Posting Truther videos as evidence!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
flanksteak2 5 months ago
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@flanksteak2 Never actually stated anything about thermite, but since the high school dropout(you) wants to comment so badly here you go...
watch?v=3PawC4u1U7k&feature=channel_video_title
watch?v=LG6i6WBHM3U&feature=channel_video_title
watch?v=TNXqkZO3Y1g&feature=channel_video_
watch?v=ezIU6ZxYU3A&feature=channel_video_title
Owned. End of story.
EvilIntentions01 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 no hes just a no plane jackass
drifter402 5 months ago
@EvilIntentions01
"This man (Ace Baker) was payed off to go on the show and act like a jackass"
Actually, of the shows I saw, this guy came off as quite reasonable and well prepared compared to the other conspiracy guys. Gage and Fetzer embarrassed themselves in a way I couldn't imagine. Atleast this no plane guy had some stuff researched and was ready to join a debate without rhetorical beating around the bush or idiotic cardbox demonstartions and taking quotes out of context.
NotableJInx2 4 months ago
@EvilIntentions01
If Ace is a jackass, then Gage is an annoying moron from another planet. This is the really pathetic part of the truth movement, Richard Gage (an architect!) gets owned by a hobby debunker and looks even more stupid than a no-plane hobby researcher. Sad, sad, sad...
NotableJInx2 4 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 "98% of people who believe it was an inside job do not believe in no planes ". what a load of rubbish, the number of 'truthers' i have spoken to who think that there WERE NO planes and that it was rigged explosives or some other device are a lot higher than people like you who say it was indeed planes. how about the 9/11 truth movements sorts out what it believes because at the moment you just get a whole lot of rambling crap with no coherent idea.
AussiePolitics 3 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 Planes, no planes - ''truthers'' are all retarded.
Overseer82 3 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 Tell me is that the only excuse you have. Paid by the Government to act like this. I suppose you think that everyone who says they saw a missile hit the pentigon are liars?
DarkHero1011 2 months ago
@EvilIntentions01 Whoop! Whoop! Wacko! *rings finger around head and whistles*
niriop 2 months ago
There are people that actually believe planes didn't hit the buildings??? Seriously???
robonintendo 6 months ago
@robonintendo This is what you get with severe mind altering drugs.
Tronathon242 6 months ago
THE FUCKIGN PLANE WAS GOING 500+ MPH NO DUH THE WINGS DIDNT BREAK OFF. YOU UGLY HIPPIE!
benry200 6 months ago
how can you believe that on ground zero had been found remains of the victims that were on the planes who hit the towers, think logically you can (if of course we consider the idea that a plane hit the towers) clearly see that the palnes were disintegrated in the hit, hw than cuold they found stuff that belonged to the victims in the plane????????????
BURSONE22 6 months ago
Du müsstest aber auch wissen, dass bei deinem Bild am Ende ein Kolbenmotorflugzeug in das Schiff geflogen ist, welches den Motor (das schwerste und stabielste Teil) dort wo das Loch ist eingetreten ist. Bei den Flugzeugen des 11. Septembers war dort das Cockpit welches zum größten Teil aus Aluminium und Carbon besteht. Idiot.
Freezer133 6 months ago
Dudes name is Anus. lmao!
grippe25 7 months ago
@grippe25 and ironically he's full of shit
EvilEtiquette 7 months ago
The guys claim of knowing an eyewitness is clearly BS. Nobody on the sidewalk in lower manhattan could have seen a plane hit the tower at that height. You would have to be walking down the street looking straight up, and even then your view of the plane would last less than a quarter of a second.as it crossed the entire open space from one side of the street to the other.There is no place at all where you could see a plane approach and hit from ground level.
txsray1 7 months ago
@txsray1 "Nobody on the sidewalk in lower manhattan could have seen a plane hit the tower at that height."
Um, that's not true at all, how did people film it then. There are plenty of places on the street that had an unobstructed view of the upper WTC floors. Have you ever been to Manhattan?
"There is no place at all where you could see a plane approach and hit from ground level."
An absolute lie. Again, people filmed this. No planers are dumb as shit.
nobraintheory 6 months ago
The supposed "debunker" admits he "cut, I took the later shot and fit it over the collision point." Then when Baker points out that a kerosene explosion will not destroy steel the supposed "debunker" implies a "finite element analyst" would disagree.
So the "debunker" himself is using a fake video he made and relies on an imaginary expert he invents to address Baker's charges of fake video.
Is this reverse psychology in action?
StratusBlue 7 months ago
@ 1:46 --->the one "expert video analyst" is sucking on his eyeglass -- so gay.
fastfoodclowns 7 months ago
most of the "experts" peddling the official 9/11 story seem very effeminate....
fastfoodclowns 7 months ago
Later investigation indicated that a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line in the vicinity of frame 80. The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb which was the first explosion,
way2easy2love 8 months ago
AT THE END HERES THE REAL INFO! Later investigation indicated that a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line in the vicinity of frame 80. The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb which was the first explosion,
way2easy2love 8 months ago
If it was faked, then how is it that thousands of New Yorkers saw it happen? I am skeptical about the symmetric fall of the towers, though.
cincyblows 8 months ago
@cincyblows Because this is what most witnesses saw that day: watch?v=kJi2K8mKTRM
A majority of the eyewitnesses (not people that were watching a TV) said they saw a small plane about the size of a Lear jet. Sounds like they saw the above cruise missile.
historian500 7 months ago
@historian500 If you believe that i suggest you check out Kevin Goat gallery on PICASA. (Google it).
Hi resolution photos of the aftermath including easily identifiable 767 parts wedged in to WTC debris on the street and enough dismembered body parts to gross out the most jaded 911 wanker.
If you can't connect up COMMERCIAL AIRLINER VS BUILDING from that i can't help you.
roquefortfiles 6 months ago
@roquefortfiles - Dude, twoofers hate facts and photos. They like to concentrate solely on wild speculation and lies. Don't confuse them, it's all they've got.
nobraintheory 6 months ago
@historian500 "Sounds like they saw the above cruise missile. "
Except that in 2001 that missile didn't exist. Derp. Try again.
nobraintheory 6 months ago
@nobraintheory You are quite wrong. This missile began to see use in 1999. If you don't believe me then type in AGM-158 JASSM on Wiki.
historian500 6 months ago
@historian500 - Nope. From the wiki:
"The missile's development began in 1995, but a number of problems during testing delayed its introduction into service until 2009."
"production of the JASSM began in December 2001."
"The weapon began operational testing and evaluation in 2002. Late that year, two missiles failed tests and the project was delayed for three months before completing development in April 2003."
How you could reference this article and not understand it is beyond me.
nobraintheory 6 months ago
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@cincyblows Because this is what most witnesses saw that day: watch?v=kJi2K8mKTRM
A majority of the eyewitnesses (not people that were watching a TV) said they saw a small plane about the size of a Lear jet. Sounds like they saw the above cruise missile.
historian500 7 months ago
Dave Bottiglia is the AT Controller who was responsible for U175. Despite having its transponder turned off the target still shows on radar. Dave tracked it all the way to the WTC. Even counting down the descending altitudes as it went. It was descending so fast they thought he was going in the water. Then someone yelled.."no the tower's".
For Mr Ace Pastry chef's story to have any validity.
Dave forgets how to do his job that day?? U decide.
Nutjob Ace? Or Professional Dave?
Dave
roquefortfiles 8 months ago
Hes not a retard hes a carefully chosen dissinformation stooge
silverdjembe 8 months ago
DRONEEEEEEEEEEEE
kidkong584 8 months ago
I saw the 2nd plane hit LIVE on tv, some time around 9:3o am, it was LIVE, not recorded and edited, and guess what..... IT WAS A PLANE!! This musician guy is a retard, sorry to say it, but he's an idiot.
Nakor420ish 8 months ago
@Nakor420ish You've obviously never heard of the ghostplane theory.... lol.
kidkong584 8 months ago
@Nakor420ish "saw the 2nd plane hit LIVE on tv"
LMAO, TV isn't real you moron. I saw "planes live" on tv too. Unfortunately, no real 767s struck the WTC. Cartoons aren't real junior.
ImyManz99 7 months ago
@ImyManz99 I don't even have to think about a response, because just by saying that, you've made yourself look like a complete retard. I know your type, you'll believe any conspiracy you here at face value. Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on youtube.
Nakor420ish 7 months ago
Truthers, if you want to prove your point, reverse engineer the entire DAY of 9-11, plan it the way you all think it happened, finance it, find the thousands of people who will lie to the public on your behalf and say it was planes, plant ground reporters in every news agency that will cover your day to also lie to the public, find the technology you will require to create such illusions, ask for people who will volunteer to fake they are going somewhere on a plane, then hide them forever.
k11815 8 months ago
This is obviously a set up.
The "truther" is too compliant.
When making a demonstration, you need to demonstrate everything;
you do not assume anything like "people saw the planes ..."
Where do you find a guy named "Anus"!
MrPierrePhilippe 8 months ago
I love how everyone is an expert on what happens when a Boeing 767 flys head first into a skyscraper. Get rid of all the unknowns, and you end up not knowing a fucking thing. You and I have no idea what would have happened, what should have happened, why things did or did not happen. This is such a waste of time, all of you "truthers" need to find something else to get involved in, how about some community service? Spend a day with a mentally handicapped individual, you'll fit right in.
Orochore 8 months ago
@Orochore well you do know that a building collapsing on itself due to isolated structural failure would not do so in a symmetric fashion at a near freefall speed.
gmanmanmanmanman 8 months ago
this mother f.....r Jew presenter compare talking about Jew to talking about reptilian ovanoid.That is what they do trivialise their murder and get everyone to believe that there was a plane that hit the tower and lol the nose of the plane even comes out intact.In their haste to do so they thought they achieved the best compouter simulated one yeah BUT FOR 6 YEARS ONLY.Busted evil JEW!!!
koolkol009 9 months ago
@koolkol009 - Hey man, not sure if you caught the news the other day, but we hunted down your boy OBL and shot him like a dog. Then, we threw the body into the ocean.
"this mother f.....r Jew presenter compare talking about Jew to talking about reptilian ovanoid."
Hey, you write like a retarded ferret. Do they have schools in the shit hole where you live? You should go to one.
nobraintheory 8 months ago
@RomneyPHONY - "Spam, spam, spam, lies, lies, lies." - Ace Baker. Go fake your suicide for attention again, pathetic retard.
Miko5000 9 months ago
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@RomneyPHONY Shut up. You and and your buddy here Ace Pastry Baker are idiots. Plain and simple. I have friends in NY who witnessed this live. Tell this crap to people like the lady in the Sky lobby who was nearly killed by U175's wing. Tell this to Brian Clark who had 175's wing tip impaled in his ceiling. Tell this to Lisa Frosts parents. She was on 175 and her hip fragment recovered at the WTC. Tell this Dave Bottiglia at air traffic control assigned to 175.
You are an idiot!!
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
@RomneyPHONY "actually my real name is
OZZY BEN OSWALD,"
Lies, lies, lies. Ace Baker, the king of lies.
Miko5000 9 months ago
Like really who the fuck is Ace Baker and why do we give a flying fuck about this musician and his retarded take on Sept 11th. ??
So i suppose this guy is reacting to "No Planes" the nothingness that hit the WTC and the surrounding pedestrians screaming in horror.. YUP!! Nothing there that day..
watch?v=z9nwIrvs3to&feature=feedrec_grec_index
Like Ace.. play your piano.. shut up!! Nobody pays attention to this crap. Except the brain addled "truthers"..
Fauck!!
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
@RomneyPHONY - Ace, you finally couldn't help yourself. You had to come to videos of yourself and spam them, just like you've been banned for multiple times. AceBaker911, LifeRegenRevolution, LegPains, etc., all shut down, just like this one will be, because your dumb ass just can't play by the rules. Retard loser.
Miko5000 9 months ago
thanks for uploading this video man you are awesome this is great
svendiamond 9 months ago 3
@svendiamond you are welcome.
911TRUTHINATOR 9 months ago
The last photo of the Kamikaze: note anything special about the wing marks on the ship? ;) Have you read anything about what a Kamikaze plane actually contained? Try read some.
SankaraChe 9 months ago
A MUSICIAN! wtf!!!! a new kind of expert? has he ever seen a plane full of fuel, for a trip to California, purposely fly into a building at full speed? or what about a plane go into a field at full sped upside down? "it should have made a bigger hole"! f-ups!
bluegrassreb1 9 months ago
2 MILLION WATCHED IT LIVE!!
IDIOTS
bluegrassreb1 9 months ago
Any "alpha" effects are almost certainly smoke passing over the holes.
tmcthree 9 months ago
it was abig grey plane
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voodoowichdoctor 10 months ago
aluminum will penetrate some steel at the cost of it's own destruction.
It is laughable to continue to argue that aluminum will penetrate hundreds of steel columns and emerge out of it perfectly intact. Just one small piece of irrefutable evidence. The audio production of the entire hoax is astonishingly manipulated as well. Watch September Clues. Namaste
turquoisegiants 10 months ago
@turquoisegiants Using your logic, explain to me how a 30-06 bullet (lead) can penitrate through a piece of 1/2 inch steel plate.
DanSVT03 10 months ago
@turquoisegiants "penetrate hundreds of steel columns and emerge out of it perfectly intact."
In what retard twoofer reality did the plane fly out intact?
nobraintheory 10 months ago
LOL
your last shot of Kamikaze penetrating steel is so deceiving - lair lair pants on fire.
This small rocket powered aircraft was used by the Japanese navy at the end of WWII as a desperate means of attacking allied capital ships.
After release from the mother aircraft (a Mitsubishi G4M2e "Betty" bomber) the rocket motor would ignite to give the vehicle a range of about 20 miles.
The kamikazi pilot would then guide the plane, its nose laden with high explosive, onto the target.
checkThrice 11 months ago
@checkThrice
I wonder why those wings didn't penetrate that steel ship too...NOT
checkThrice 11 months ago
@checkThrice you copied and pasted that didn't you, anyway the okha didn't have twin engines on its wings so your as usual, just another twoofer taking shit.
911TRUTHINATOR 11 months ago
@911TRUTHINATOR
Twin engines? who said twin engines?
The mother bomber has twin engines , not the kamikaze plane it releases.
Don't argue with me about what i stated - it makes you look very stupid.
That kamikaze penetrates the ship because of cone filled with explosives.
Hence the wings don't penetrate too.
WTC was not penetrated too.
Ace Baker owned this video.
And especially in the episode of the "nose out" - Ronald Z. was sweating like pig and couldn't wait for that show to end LOL
checkThrice 11 months ago
@checkThrice "a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line" "The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb ..." wikipedi
the tony kawasaki ki-61 was a prop fighter. you can clearly see parts of the wings penetrated the hull.
911TRUTHINATOR 11 months ago
@911TRUTHINATOR
Bullshit .No wings penetrated.
Wiki:
. The ship was holed in three places: A seven foot hole in the engine room at the water line caused by the engine and fuselage to which it is believed was attached a bomb which was the first explosion, a ten inch hole in the engine room about 2 feet above the water line caused by a bomb which was later discovered as a dud, and a four foot hole in Compartment A-304-EL a crew's berthing space, caused by a bomb which was the second explosion."
checkThrice 11 months ago
@checkThrice whats that wing like hole that joins all 3 holes?
911TRUTHINATOR 11 months ago
@checkThrice How the fuck can you compare a little light weight WW2 fighter plane striking a heavily armored hull to a huge-ass airplane hitting a completely un-armored side of a sky scraper?
DanSVT03 10 months ago
Why do these guys hide behind the computer. Why don't they walk their happy ass down to NYC and talk to people who witnessed this?
tmdffn 11 months ago
BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ladies and Gentlemen your new truth movement.
tmdffn 11 months ago
OMFG!!! WHERE On earth do these people come from?? Where are these peoples sense of LOGIC? If this event had been photographed by one person, one camera. You MIGHT have a point. (But even just looking at the video he showed would be enough for me)..But not when this event was shot by HUNDREDS of random sources, pros and amateurs alike.
Stunningly ridiculous. It is not even worth giving this guy an interview for. Retarded pablum.
roquefortfiles 11 months ago
The concrete/w/steel reinforced floors would have scredded that tin can to ribbons, nothing would have come out the other side. After the explosion and 50 ft. of fake plane was sticking out,when the flames died down about 2 secs. later, what happened to the big fuselage sticking out. Did it go back in. hahah. it didn't fall down. I watched and you should too. PLUS, you morons, I have a shot of the place it was supposed to have come out and it is NOT damaged with a hole for a place to come out
sssssjjjj1 11 months ago
"I'm a master metallurgist. Trust me. A plane can't go through this type of building and come out the other side."
So tell me the physics that proves the Joules of a 350,000lb plane going around 500mph couldn't exceed the point load force of the 1/4" steel columns impacted. Face it, dipshit, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about here, and you would say anything to support your stupid no plane theory. Show me the math or you're lying.
nobraintheory 11 months ago
@nobraintheory Hey man i got news for you. The WTC is 95% air. Despite what people think of this giant building it is an incredibly light construction. It is the outer wall and then 60 feet clear span to the core of the building. Seen any back lit photos of this building? There is nothing to it!! The plane is doing 540mph and weighs 300,000 pds. A piece of foam that fell off the space shuttle punched a hole in the wing. It was not thought possible until NASA test fired it at 3000mph.
roquefortfiles 11 months ago
@roquefortfiles I'm on your side, read my comment again. The section in quotes is someone else's comment followed by my reply.
nobraintheory 11 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 "No plane can go through this type of building."
Bullshit...9/11 wasn't the first time and it wont be the last. 1945 B-25 bomber smashed into the Empire State Building. Leaving a very similar mark that was left on the WTC. The B-25 is considerably smaller than a 757, Considerably slower, about a tenth of the weight and didn't even carry a tenth of the gas. The engine flew through the building and landed on a 12 story building across 33rd street.
tmdffn 11 months ago
People, the official story are liars. If they weren't they wouldn't even be doing this show. hahahahhaa Don't you see you morons. For one thing. Guess who's floors were hit on first tower, gw bushes 1st cousin dorothys husband zionists. Guess whos floors got hit on 2nd tower, Paul Bremmers floors. You know, appointed iraq prime minister. hahahaha. Then 8 billion in cash missing. No body questioned. hahahaha. Guess who was on 93rd floor. 1floor up. 18mossad agents claiming to be artists.ha
sssssjjjj1 11 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 So planes have hit buildiings in the past and parts have come out the other side. You going to tell me the fabricated that 1945 story back in 1945. Get a life.
tmdffn 11 months ago
the dude doesn't even have his films together. There is no doubt there were NO planes at wtc. These people are liars. Nothing but liars. I'm a master metallurgist. Trust me. A plane can't go through this type of building and come out the other side. It would crash against it and most, about 90% would fall onto the ground. This guys stupid story of I know a girl who hates george bush. blah blah. For one thing it was a 737 engine that was on the sidewalk. United does NOT use that engine!
sssssjjjj1 11 months ago
You cannot stop the perps from trying to do patch jobs on their atrocious work in the years since the orig on 9/11. Almost all footage was prepared long in advance then looped and inserted just like a commercial. Then they silenced, added screamers, later. Ghost plane entered the bldg. and left not a scratch for a split second or so.
albatross234 11 months ago
No planers are mentally disturbed listen to webfairy speak on the Howard stern show or watch nico haupt wow mind Blowing they are nuts like no joke very crazy peopl. Nico haupt I's the one who started to phrase "TV fakery" and he is an admitted meth addict and is currently homeless wow lol
Amsterdam819 11 months ago
"That's a statment of a musician"
DOH! Owned!
dravenousone 11 months ago
dude you are so lost!! the whole things was fake. its pitty that you dont whant to wake up!
Armin112 11 months ago
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@Armin112 -
"dude you are so lost!! the whole things was fake."
You were a 14 year old in Sweden at the time of 9/11, you don't know shit about what happened. Your opinion is based on nothing but dipshit conspiracy videos on youtube, not firsthand knowledge.
"its pitty that you dont whant to wake up!"
Your illiteracy is a pity.
nobraintheory 11 months ago
@Armin112 - Yes, if you want to know what really happened on 9/11, ask someone who was 14 years old and in Sweden at the time. Armin - why do you think you know more than the people who were there?
nobraintheory 11 months ago
The guy on the far left is 911TruthVideos.
Good Job on "Ghostplane Theory: Plane Crashes Were Faked?'
saltydog78 11 months ago
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there are 47 steel coloums that plane nose had to penetrate, aluminium cant do that to steel, shit who knows what happened, but saudi and brit intel. were involved. peter power might know he was running drills on 7/7 and his buSiness partner MAYOR GULIANNI !!!
TheManners112 11 months ago
USS Hinsdale debunked.
Later investigation indicated that a Jap suicide plane, probably a Tony Kawasaki Ki-61 carrying three 132 lb. bombs hit the ship on the port side at the water line in the vicinity of frame 80.
So you see it was not an aluminum plane that penetrated the steel. It was a 132 lb. Bomb attached to the plane which went off on impact. The second bomb went off later, and the third bomb was a dud.
DiabloUniverse 1 year ago
Tv got "dereglemented" in USA some years ago.
So, news and entertainment got mixed-up; they can show you anything they want.
Now, look at how much "bullshit" is on the internet; internet was never reglemented.
I'll let you reach the conclusions ...
MrPierrePhilippe 1 year ago
Everone has a friend who saw the planes hit. Somebody's uncle or grandpa. They wouldn't lie. I wonder why there are few first hand accounts. Oh yeah, the Harley guy saw it. And Gary Welz saw it. Paid actors without a doubt. And a few annomous internet trolls.
No matter how much these "experts" try to twist the laws of physics. planes cannot fly into buildings without encountering resistance.
These planes were fake CGI just as sure as all the fakery on a football field during a live telecast.
glipzik 1 year ago
We re not saying there was no plane.
All were saying is:the videos are faked.
Why ? We dont know.
But it is a fact,because what is shown is physically impossible.
No one is at ease with the implications.
But,get real !
MrPierrePhilippe 1 year ago
@MrPierrePhilippe "what is shown is physically impossible."
Yet you can't use physics to prove your point, and you aren't a physicist. Just another dipshit twoofer repeating the same crap over and over with no proof. That's why the world laughs at you.
"All were saying is:the videos are faked."
You know nothing about video and you have no explanation for how nearly 50 amateur videos captured the same thing from all angles or the thousands of live witnesses.
nobraintheory 1 year ago
@nobraintheory No i'm no expert on videos.
But I know a steel wall wont "heal"itself.
The point about this video is: The guy's not saying there wasnt any plane; he said the vids are faked.
Not the same thing.
What make's you think I'm no physisist ? Actually, I am !
MrPierrePhilippe 1 year ago
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@MrPierrePhilippe
"a steel wall wont "heal"itself."
And it didn't. Plane hit, explosion, big gaping plane hole.
"The guy's not saying there wasnt any plane"
Wrong. Ace Baker is a no planer.
"What make's you think I'm no physisist ?"
Well, for one you can't spell it... oh well. Can you tell me how many Joules a 350,000lb plane traveling 500mph carries, and the point load limit for the columns impacted? I can't seem to get a straight answer from the twoof movement on this one.
nobraintheory 1 year ago
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@MrPierrePhilippe - "The point about this video is: The guy's not saying there wasnt any plane; he said the vids are faked."
Nope, the point of this videos is the guy saying the videos are faked is getting owned.
"What make's you think I'm no physisist ? Actually, I am !"
Well, for starters you can't even spell physicist.
nobraintheory 11 months ago
@nobraintheory What explanation is needed for that? Few if any showed the plane hit other than the CNN video, they just showed a side on view of the plane disappearing into a building and it exploding. How do YOU explain the identical audio taken from several different videos?
Siva3Enthroned 11 months ago
@Siva3Enthroned "they just showed a side on view of the plane disappearing into a building and it exploding"
Oh, so they show the plane hit, but not the plane hit?
"How do YOU explain the identical audio taken from several different videos?"
Link?
nobraintheory 11 months ago
Kerosene, great stuff for smokeface work! when are the smokface talkies coming out!!
mike86183 1 year ago
This is disinformation go on Alex Jones with this crap idiot
shootaoutlaw 1 year ago
Can anyone prove a plane hit the pentagon?
TheReallitycheck 1 year ago
@TheReallitycheck NOBODY CAN PROVE THAT! I AGREE! =)
joedrummer2010 1 year ago
Who cares about facts ?...they are truthers facts doesnt matter...beaces in NWO facts read you.
Ukufaul 1 year ago
is long haired guy mental in the face?
daveygravey123456 1 year ago
lol, I love how much of an idiot you are to actually compare the side of a steel reinforced building with the side of an aircraft carrier...
samurai2828 1 year ago
Why does no one ask why the explosion happened? Gas/jet fuel doesn't simply explode on contact with surfaces... flame or electrical spark is needed to ignite the vapors of the fuel, which is the flammable part, not the liquid itself. This Hollywood looking explosion isn't a redflag?
threepercenter03 1 year ago
@threepercenter03 On impact, at those speeds, wouldn't there be enough heat to light the gas? Kind of like when you get in a car accident, the heat that ingnites the fuel tank (sometimes, in certain crashes you see that result in fire) is caused itself by the impact.
13linkinparkluver13 1 year ago
@13linkinparkluver13 I don't know if there's a speed vs. friction that would equal ignition... we expect to see that because of Hollywood blowing shit up... car crash + explosion = entertainment. But fuel isn't flammable, it's fumes are, but must be ignited... was there ignition?
threepercenter03 1 year ago