Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? (William Lane Craig vs Richard Carrier)

[rurouni152]

I love Dr. Craig's face during this guy's intro. Its the expression of ''.....well this is going to be easier than I thought.''

[ATLMastering]

What's so cool about this debate is that Dr. Craig actually said that he wasn't as confident about this debate and thought that he had a chance of losing, saying also that he prepared a lot more for this debate than others. I'll admit, I was nervous too -- I've seen Dr. Carrier absolutely annihilate theists early on in debates. Nothing could have been further from the truth in this debate -- this just goes to show that Dr. Carrier's arguments only work on pansies who aren't prepared...

[fansofbands]

Richard Carrier is youngster about to get rocked!

[Mrhawklanz]

audio is only coming out of my left speaker....

[drcraigvideos]

@Steelsixtysix Uh, yeah, the Jerusalem temple was never destroyed in the First Century. Boy, are you smart.

[drcraigvideos]

@Steelsixtysix No seriously, please. Please, throw the Christ-mythicist stuff in the trash where it belongs. What's next, saying that the First Century Temple in Jerusalem was not destroyed?I mean, every single historian in the whole wide world trusts Josephus' account about it.

[drcraigvideos]

@Steelsixtysix Uh, yeah, Josephus had nothing to say about Jesus except that he actually mentioned him. You're too fast for me.

[snakeblob]

@JDrosa1982 I hope you arn't being serious..

[JDrosa1982]

 Pontius Pilate leter to Tiberius Caesar, backs everything the gospel said even the darkness over the land, even a earthquake in lower egypt..

[JDrosa1982]

did he mention Pontius Pilate leter to Tiberius Caesar, Emperor of Rome. This Historic Letter is from the "Archko Volume" containing manuscripts, in Constantinople, and the Records of the Senatorial Docket, taken from the Library at Rome, Translated by Drs. McIntosh and Twyman of the Antiquerian Lodge, Genoa, Italy. This has been checked and is in accord with the copy of the original lodged in the British Museum, which has verified the accuracy of the transcription. Verified in November, 1935.?

[JDrosa1982]

Jesus Christ is real.

[chatpilot]

What evidence do we have that Jesus rose from the dead? The gospels. Outside of the gospels no one wrote of this event as first hand witnesses. And the gospel tales regarding the resurrection all differ and blatantly contradict one another as to the so called facts and circumstances regarding this alleged event. These facts alone discredit the validity of the gospel accounts and honestly without the gospels you would not even have known about this myth. 

[CapsHockey100]

@chatpilot Contradictions = discredit of an account? I don't know how well such a theory would hold up with historians. For example, their are contradictory sources regarding the sinking of the Titanic. According to you I should discredit the validity of the accounts of the Titanic sinking, is that correct?

[brzlnow]

@chatpilot Where do you get you information? How do you know any of this is true? What do you consider to be evidence?

[nomesbirdy]

Why do so many people just ignore Christianity because there are so many different religions? Just because there are other stories does not mean Christianity is not truth. When you delve deeper into Hinduism or cults like JW's they fall apart but you can't take down Christianity because it is truth.

[nomesbirdy]

Dudes Richard Dawkins and William lane Craig HAVE debated now. WLC totally obliterated RD! Who could have seen that coming....

[ikawpipa]

no wonder Richard Dawkins is running away as far as possible from Dr. Craig.

[mrabdrum]

oh come on like a million religions with similar stories. Some dude dies and rises and becomes a god. Do we really need a debate about this? isnt it obvious that its a myth? come on....

[drcraigvideos]

@mrabdrum Uh, yeah, when atheists tell us dead matter brought forth life I guess resurrections are silly, huh?

[nacho2354]

@drcraigvideos That was hilarious :)

[schmuck924]

@drcraigvideos Whoever told you dead matter brought forth life was toying with you. This atheist might have been mixing terms, or illustrating a lack of understanding with the basic principles of biology and cosmology. Who ever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about. You could argue that it's hard to see how life as we know it came from carbon, though. Matter is just a general term for any collection of atoms. But then again I'm not a scientist.

[FlyborgResponds]

@drcraigvideos You're made of dead matter - life is made of dead matter - there's no such thing as "living matter". Life is an arrangement of matter, not a type of matter.

Don't try and confuse magic with evident reality - it's just silly, not to mention dishonest. (Assuming you care about that sort of thing..)

[drcraigvideos]

@FlyborgResponds I'm surrounded by LIVING tissue, genius. I'm not made of dead matter.

Don't try to confuse... yourself. It makes you look desperate. Embrace reality. It helps.

[kidasterorig111]

@drcraigvideos

I can't watch a vid this long. Who won?

[drcraigvideos]

@kidasterorig111 Craig, hands down.

[kidasterorig111]

@drcraigvideos

Thy wisdom is undeniable...

:D

[kidasterorig111]

@drcraigvideos LOL

Never mind I just saw the debate. Craig won!!!

:D

[lachezar43]

@drcraigvideos

Which is more probable that people have hallucinations or Supernatural phenomenon occurred 2000 years ago?

[bheadh]

Dr. Carrier didn't carry me. He confirmed my belief even more. The Bible is a historical record as was proved by the Dead Sea Scrolls. More gulable people will believe Dr. Carrier by his smooth, child-like comunication. However, I am a firm believer in the Holy Spirit. See the you-tube vid "famous atheists last words". The common atheist trick today is this "crazy" and "halucinogenic" label. We have to pray for them.

[hrobertb]

@bheadh Dr. Carrier doesn't "carry" many atheists either; Dr. Carrier admitted he lost the debate!

[r0baa]

I like how Craig is smiling all the time. God has blessed him

[emkagi93]

little diet coke commercial at 1:36:49

[caseyfaceirwin]

I do think Carrier did an excellent job outlining what he believes in a convincing way, even if he lost the debate. 

[SycrosD4]

Dang. Carrier came out failing...

I was hoping for something better than that.

[itrainedinside]

@RubixWizz199109

...that it was just a remake of a lesser known film made thirty years earlier, same plot, characters, storyline, maybe even title, etc.. wouldn't you conclude that the older film was the original and the one you had come to love was merely an unoriginal remake? Carrier is merely showing that the gospels cannot be trusted, since they're unoriginal mythical symbolical stories written by unknown, unsourced, non contemporary authors, including tons of known forgeries, contradiction

[itrainedinside]

@RubixWizz199109

Well, if stories in the bible are incredibly similar to known myths that were told around that time or (and this is more often the case) for many many years before the bible was compiled, then it's far more reasonable to assume that the stories in the bible were borrowed from these earlier myths, not that they are genuine or true, especially since they're unoriginal and not the first to tell such tales. If you see a film today and come to like it, and later you come to find out

[RubixWizz199109]

I'm watching this currently with an open mind and Mr. Carrier is trying to disprove the ressurection by explaining there are similarities between this story and others?

I'm sorry but I don't understand this reasoning at all.

If I found that gravity were real, but then saw that some made up theories had aspects of the theory of gravity within it, does that make gravity fake?

I mean, if he is making a logical point, I just want him to explain how..

[ohconservativeme]

i was expecting a little bit more of intelligent speeches from Mr. Carrier. Instead he went on on how unreliable the gospels and such were. First of all, his examples were just absolute rubish. Second, its not even the subject of the debate. I just dont see how people can take this guy seriously

[RighteousPaladin]

Mr. Carrier engages in unhinged speculation about the mental state of historical figures and uses all kinds of inflammatory language such as "hallucination" and "cult," implying that early Christians were mentally ill (essentially a long-winded ad hominem), then breaks down when Craig schools him.

How many times does he say "actually" after 1:21?

[perrin6]

When it comes down to it, the only convincing evidence for Jesus's resurrection would be if everyone, whatever their belief or religion, saw him wandering around the streets and doing amazing tricks like making people's amputated limbs grow back, making houses rise into the air or other magical things. Using texts from one book as evidence just isn't enough.

[RighteousPaladin]

@perrin6 If you would not accept Him as your King even if He proved His power to you then there really is no point.

[sthcrox]

1:37 HAHAHA way to go, craig! just have a cool drink then wrap it all up eh!

[imkluu]

I would have liked to ask Dr. Carrier even given that the Gospel of Mark and the others are filled with Ole Testament Scriptures and allusions to them and symbolism, how does this make what they are saying any less authoritative or historical? The writers where trying to tell their story i the best way they could to influence as many as possible. It would make sense to have them allude to authoritative texts and symbols they would understand.

[imkluu]

For Carrier's ideas about the Gospel of Mark to be true, then its writer must have been a great scholar and writer to have included so much allegoric, influences and similarities with the books of the Old Testament. The writer must have been brilliant. But we are also supposed to except that the writer was a delusional schizophrenic.

[THEGLASSOFMILK2]

@imkluu HAHHA GOOD POINTTT

[SavedInLouisiana]

@ 1:37:00..LOL..Just for the taste of it! 

[Chaowdur]

complete destruction of carrier

[Chaowdur]

1:37:00 look at craig! AWESOME! 

[MARTYRx4xCHRIST]

@Chaowdur wut about 1:37???

[THEGLASSOFMILK2]

@MARTYRx4xCHRIST he's drinking like diet coke or something... ha

[strabes88]

Excellent debate. Do you have the question and answer session that they mention in the beginning of this video?

[drcraigvideos]

@strabes88 Yeah, it's right here: watch?v=mUIeIZCzW78

[caseyfaceirwin]

@drcraigvideos ?? It's not there: watch?

[drcraigvideos]

@caseyfaceirwin Yes, it is. Dude!

[caseyfaceirwin]

@drcraigvideos ... a question and answer session with students asking them questions and the speakers responding, which was mentioned at the beginning of the debate and was to follow the speakers closing comments. When do you see that in this video?

[drcraigvideos]

@caseyfaceirwin Look at the video responses. Here's a short cut: watch?v=mUIeIZCzW78

[RetSquid]

Doesn't he know that quoting your own book is not a 'source'?

[the1qb]

@RetSquid That's only true if you use false authority Craig is using historical criteria. Come on man

[RetSquid]

@the1qb

I'm not talking about Craig, HE quotes his sources, and they are others, not himself.

[52blades]

If you have the video software you might want to center the audio next time so it plays in both ears when people listen with headphones.

[jenforyou]

damn! my internet is messing up

can u tell me who won!?? and why!

[RageicaNiels]

@jenforyou Dr. Craig pwned that noob!

[nanagaga2001]

@RageicaNiels On the contrary, even though I'm a Christian and a huge WLC fan, I think Dr. Carrier presented one of the most intelligent arguements I've heard from an atheist. I don't agree with him, but he presented his case well without resorting to the usual diatribe atheists seem to think are sound arguments.

[MARTYRx4xCHRIST]

@jenforyou John XIV won ;)