Thats dallas for ya, I live over there near 61... cant be too specific but ya that normal around here... I do it on my TTR-90 Im popin wheelies and shit on hiram sudie...
@gregboyds motorcycles make up a super small percentage. Cars make up the lions share and therefore makes sense to have them buckle up. Cars also take up tons of room, no where to go when u forget to stop sometimes. Motorcycles can swerve and avoid much more than cars
Ya and when some animal runs across the highway we pay to pick up the pieces. Grow up ride proper and I’m sure you’ll get gear after you have some skin grafted on.
Why the fuck would people argue about kidney stones and other shit, when they can simple watch this short video and have fun??? This should go at RWJ.
i dont agree with the no helmet thing but its not hard at all to do that, granit if a car pulls out hes screwed but its alot easyer and safer balance wise then you would think
@TIMBOD100 Well if it wasn't a windy day then that's irrelevant. Even if it was, if you're doing a high speed even very strong winds have a tough time blowing you around so long as you're not pulling the bars around.
@fatmikecj Have you ever seen and 18 wheeler laying on its side in the middle of the highway? I have witnessed the wind blowing an 80,000lb truck over so a bike will definitely move around quite a bit. I've ridden on remote roads like this where you have to lean into the wind so you're not blown over. Don't read so many books, just get out a try it.
@TIMBOD100 I know that, but the guy in the vid is clearly not in those sorts of conditions. Also whe riding in gusty conditions (maybe not 35mph+ to be fair) winds, it is amazing how much less the bike moves about if you relax your grip on the bars. Alot of the movement experienced is from you getting blown and pulling the bike with you rather than the bike getting blown about. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just putting something else into the discussion.
@taledarkside No, you pay for health insurance, healthcare is different, it's a basic human right that allows people to freely go to hospitals to get medicine and be treated. You don't. Instead, people die from illnesses that could be easily treated. Being a slave to insurance companies is freedom? lol.
And obviously having a head on with a semi is the only possible accident that can occur on a motor bike right? If one has any regard for their wellbeing they'll wear leathers.
I don't pay for health insurance. And no one has to pay for health insurance. it is their choice. maybe you should research a few things about the subject before you open your mouth. Like motorcycles and the United States.
You can highside a motorcycle and can still kill yourself with leathers and a helmet on. Just like i said before. the rider has the freedom to wear their own safety gear, unless it is a state law in their location.
@taledarkside Ugh, you must have selective reading or something cause it's like you didn't even read my comment. I know how it works, I lived and worked in America for years. You guys pay for health insurance to be covered if you need medical aid. Australians get it for free. Every man woman in child can visit a GP or hospital or emergency free of charge. That's public health care. Private health insurance is optional over here and same for you guys.
@taledarkside Yeah, I don't know how you can't read mate. Let me quote myself.
Exhibit A: "Private health insurance is optional over here and same for you guys."
Exhibit B: "You guys pay for health insurance to be covered if you need medical aid."
You seem to be missing the entire point of what I'm saying while arguing over something I never said. Of course you have the option of paying for health insurance, I've said it twice now and I know how it works having lived there
I can read bullshit consiracy theorist comments that you left
"No, you pay for health insurance, healthcare is different, it's a basic human right that allows people to freely go to hospitals to get medicine and be treated. You don't. Instead, people die from illnesses that could be easily treated. Being a slave to insurance companies is freedom? lol."
"being a slave to insurance companies"
just like i said before, we have the freedom to have insurance or not.
@taledarkside Yeah, we get free health care, if you guys want it you have to pay large amounts of money to criminals, AKA insurance companies. Let me ask you, if your wife or kids get really sick and you don't have insurance what do you do? I've seen with my own eyes people be in debt, refuse amblulances and one person even died from your 'freedom'? In Australia we have access to free hospitals, ER, the whole lot. We don't worry about sickness & disease like Americans so cause our country cares.
@taledarkside What statements have been wrong? Who is Alex Jones? I know about the free services. I had a friend named Josh in Florida, he had a seizure one day & it freaked his family out. His mum applied for medicaid & they buried her in paperwork required to get free health care. A few weeks later as they were processing his claim he had a 2nd seizure & suffocated and died. He had only just turned 18, in Australia he would have been treated immediately.
@taledarkside I'm sorry for your delusions, Australia has a much higher standard of education than the US and Australians enjoy a much higher standard of living. From my experience most Americans live in sub par conditions and live well below the standards of Australians. Australians are also statistically a lot happier than you. Also most of the world spells 'mum' and America spells it 'mom'.
@taledarkside I never said it was forced. Allow me quote myself .. again
Exhibit A: "Private health insurance is optional over here and same for you guys."
Exhibit B: "You guys pay for health insurance to be covered if you need medical aid."
I'm well aware that Americans either choose to pay for health insurance or have it as part of their employment. I've never said otherwise but you've been arguing it since the beginning. Show me where I said you have forced health insurance cause I didn't
""No, you pay for health insurance, healthcare is different, it's a basic human right that allows people to freely go to hospitals to get medicine and be treated. You don't. Instead, people die from illnesses that could be easily treated. Being a slave to insurance companies is freedom? lol."
posted it twice.
I know you australians can't read just like the people in the UK. idiots that think lochness and crop circles are real.
@taledarkside I said that health care is paid for in America and it's free in Australia. Did I say it was forced?
No. I never did.
That's some information you added or assumed yourself. The part where I said you can die from easily treatable conditions further implies your system is optional. By being a slave to insurance companies I meant that if you want healthcare you need to pay insurance companies. They're rip off merchants, they don't give fair prices and you guys have no other choice
and i still said you don't need health insurance. doesn't matter if your job,military etc... gives you health insurance. even if they didn't. you do NOT need health insurance.
so you being a nutjob and claiming "your a slave to the health insurance" shows your ignorance on the topic like the other dopes from australia and the UK
@taledarkside And I've never once said that you have been forced to aqquire health insurance. If you haven't figured that out then you are dense. The thing is, if you get sick, if one of your kids get sick what are you gonna do? Google the symptoms? In Australia you take advantage of the basic human right to be treated. You on the other hand will have to purchase insurance from the insurance companies, they are rip off merchants and for a majority of people that's their only avenue to treatment
@taledarkside How can you afford that? While working in the USA my family needed medical aid 3 times. It wasn't cheap. My son had a minor burn on the leg & needed some cream and was bandaged, 2 hrs in the ward $1,500. I cut my hand, got an x-ray + 2 stitches, 2 hrs in emergency, almost $2000. My wife spent 2 nights in hospital from a kidney stone, $8000. Luckily we were insured.
AN American friend of mine's daughter was bitten by a brown recluse, they'll be paying off the debt for many years
@taledarkside I see where this is going. You can search my channel & see my wife. She's very thin. If you think kidney stones are caused by weight then you're gonna have to brush up on your google doctoring cause you're not going to be able to treat your family unless, like most, you buy into a crooked insurance company. That is what I meant. For most Americans, paying ridiculous premiums is the only way to remain healthy. That's not freedom. But then again, most slaves don't know they're slaves
@taledarkside And you need to go back to biology class cause kidney stones are also hereditary. And no you don't need insurance to be healthy but assuming that you won't need to visit a doctor or need medical aid because of a condition or accident that you didn't plan is the kind of anti forward thinking that Americans love. It's just plain stupidity. Living a healthy lifestyle (which Australia does better) will not prevent a spider biting you and needing treatment. I pity Americans.
LOL your mom passed kidneystones to the kids. funny shit.
you can go to a doctor 5000 times without health insurance. remember i said you have the FREEDOM. personal freedom and personal choice.
person who lives a healthy life, jobs, exercises etc..... can go 2 a doctor without health insurance. OH NO there goes your theory.
I don't give a fuck if a fat person dies. no matter wat country. U crying Dat government should baby sit people instead of people taking self responsibiliy
@taledarkside Yes, kidney stones can in fact be hereditary. Do some research before you sound dumber.
And no, without insurance you are not entitled to aid. You can tell me about the mythical 'duty of care' but I've seen with my own eyes the opposite. I know personally 2 people who were refused care, one was an older lady who turned away from ER for a potential heart attack because she lacked insurance. & my other friend died while his mother was trying to apply for free aid.
i don't need research, it was done in university biology. australians must not be healthy when they get kidney stones.
I get aid without insurance all the time. So some old lady was faking a heart attack.
and the 2nd maybe your friend should have stayed in the down under. maybe you should blame god for your friend dying from a seizure. blame the insurance, sure .
@taledarkside Do your research again, kidney stones are in fact hereditary, you studied biology, not medicine. Any intelligent person will back me up.
Just because you get aid all the time it doesn't mean every one in your country does. I've seen the proof.
My friend was American, he was born and raised there. And your country let him die there because they didn't allow him into a hospital because didn't have insurance.
Nice try mate. You keep looking dumber and dumber.
@taledarkside Changing my facts? Show me where I said my friend was Australian? I don't change facts, but you invent them. Like the fact that you learned in biology that kidney stones aren't hereditary.
And I'm sorry, I'm not gonna answer why Canadians go to America for healthcare cause they don't. In fact I know many Americans who've gone to Canada for free healthcare.
Holding a logical, factual reasonable conversation with you is futile.
You changing the facts has nothing to do with where your friend is from.
something coming from a biology book isn't inventing facts, nice try thou. LOL
You can't answer why canadians come to the US to use our medicine because its better. 2nd. because the Canadian government decides how much healthcare each person deserves to receive.
still waiting for how all the mexicans come to the united states hundreds at a time everyday
@taledarkside And the issue IS about not affording it. Seriously, what are you going to do if one of your family gets really sick? Go into a lifetime of debt? Risk being refused care because you're uninsured? It's easy when you're young and invincible but when you have a family, illness and injury is inevitable, it's a natural part of life. If you want to be able to provide your family with adequate health care your country doesn't provide that basic right, are bound to insurance companies.
@taledarkside Of course you don't think it's a right cause it's a freedom you've never tasted. Mexico has it, Canada has it, Europe, most of south America too. It's worldwide. The Congressional Budget Office & related government agencies scored the cost of a universal health care system several times since 1991 & have uniformly predicted cost savings, because of the 40% cost savings associated with universal preventative care & elimination of insurance company overheads. It actually saves money!
If mexico has free healthcare, why are all the mexicans jumping over the fence and coming here illegally? Why are Canadians come to America for our healthcare?
@taledarkside Doesn't it make you wonder that America is one of the most richest & developed countries on the planet yet it ranks as one of the most unhealthily? Australia ranks in the top 10. It would actually save your country money, your own Congressional Budget gurus figured this out decades ago.
Yet sill yanks always seem to oppose it. Maybe you think it'll cost you more money, maybe you think it's communism, maybe you are all just self destructive and don't care about the future. I dunno
Fat overweight people just pay more in insurance then other people.
And it is a very hard study to claim who is overweight and if it is a growing epidemic. America isn't 1 culture, since it is a culture of many countries. And as i see it, less then 10% of the population is obese. And i know a lot of fat people that just become fat so they don't have to work.
So how does australia handle that issue. 400lb people that do it on purpose to get free gov aid?
@taledarkside I wasn't talking about being overweight. I was talking about health. Australia is in the top 10 for healthiest countries as well as standard of living and happiness.
And for the record people don't pay more for insurance based on their weight. And you think only 10% of the American population is obese?
I suggest you take your own advice about doing research mate.
What is it with you Americans? Were you born with such prodeful arrogance or were you raised to be like that?
How would you know how insurance works, since you dont live here. And you have no clue about the choice of not having insurance.
I walk past 10 people. I see 1 person obese. that would be 10% I know, you suck at math too.
I just have a high IQ and have many years of advance learning. australians and UK like i stated before are really dumb. bunch of dope smoking conspiracy theorists
@taledarkside I know how your insurance works because I've lived in your country and purchased insurance. You on the other hand don't have insurance. So therefore we can conclude I have more experience with your health insurance system.
And please never get a job and the department of statistics, you suck at it.
@milkenobi how do you know if i do or do not have insurance? making up more facts low level intelligence are people like you that make up facts that people said. hmmm, I dont' have insurance People are slaves to health insurance canada and mexico have free healthcare so they don't come to the US for our bad healthcare LOL Australia is the greatest country LOL US government doesn't want free healthcare ROFL wow, so many assumptions based on your lack of education.
@taledarkside And I know you don't have insurance cause you said several times that you don't have it and you don't pay for it and that's your choice. You even said that if your kids get sick you'll take them to a hospital & they'll send you a bill later.
ANd I never said your government doesn't want free healthcare, I said YOU don't want free healthcare. Of course your government wants it. They have set an end date of 2019 to implement it. Fuck you are dense, I swear you can't read or somethin
You are making an assumption that i don't have insurance.
me giving you an example of what a person would do if they had children and had to go to the doctor isn' evidence. Its a fact of the possiblities to do if you had no insurance. which you claim is evil then you change your mind.
You were claiming the government is brainwashing people to stay fat and not have free healthcare .......i can quote you
always funny when you stump someone stupid on the internet. they always can't answer the question so they pussy out and say "your wasting my time" or "goodbye"
milkenobi is going back to leeching off his government. thats what stupid people do since they can't see the bigger picture of humanity.
come back when you find out why illegals come to america for our healthcare and services. Or why exchange students come here for our education.
@taledarkside Yes you have stumped me. I just cannot find a way to communicate basic common sense to you. You make up facts, ignore my comments and then awkwardly jumble them together into a sentence with the proficiency and grammar of 10 year old, all the while claiming that you have superior IQ. After presenting you with facts and logic you insist on arguing points that I didn't even make. So yes, I truly am stumped.
Anyone willing to read the comments for themselves will see for themselves.
The country is 14 trillion dollars in debt. And you expect health care going to "save money" they have idiots managing things now, and you expect free healthcare to be managed by the same people ROFL
Private industry fires stupid employees. Government doesn't . thats why having a CHOICE is real freedom
Why did a bunch of parents bring their kids from Canada to the US?
And you still havn't answered why mexicans come to the US. I don't see US people going to mexico
@taledarkside Your congressional bean counters figured out it will save money, not me. Google it, it's fact. Your congress has crunched the numbers several times, not mine, YOURS.
Mexicans don't come to America primarily for the healthcare you dumbass. There's a myriad of reasons they jump the border and if you think it's just for the doctors ... you're thick
You really need to do some research. It's amazing that I'm not American and I seem to know more than you about your country.
yup, you know so much about my country, you claimed we are forced to have health insurance. And you can't answer why mexicans and canadians come here for healthcare
@taledarkside You're glad America doesn't have free healthcare but the ironic thing is that America spends a much higher percentage of tax payer money on health, hospitals & aid schemes on it's people than Australia spends on it's own per capita. And our health system is far superior. 70% lol, you're taxed as much as us. So you're paying a lot more and you're not even getting it for free.
Our taxes pay for our health care. You're taxes pay for ... I don't know, war and fat politicians perhaps?
Our money doesn't go into the medical field. 3rd think you just invent facts because you read something on the internet.
US is the largest country that sends money to other nations. How much money does Australia send? How much foreign aid did you do for the Japanese, and Haiti recently?
wow, are you dumb at reading. I didn't say we are taxed at 70%. I can see why your dumb when you can't recall what you just read.
@taledarkside I never said you WERE taxed 70%, I quoted your the idea of being taxed 70% for public healthcare as laughable. Perhaps I should have explained using puppets. I can honestly say that you are of a very low level of intelligence judging by your reading comprehension and grammar. Also you are clearly misinformed about certain topics and make up statistics based on your personal experience with no regard for actual facts.
Enjoy the sinking ship that is your 3rd world country.
"I'm glad America doesn't have free healthcare" ... Sometimes people's stupidity amazes me. You're glad you can't freely go to a GP, a hospital or the ER room? Why? Don't you want that basic human right?
I guess the government feeds you a load of bull that your taxes will skyrocket and you eat it up like so many hamburgers.
when did getting a bandaid on a cut, a right? So when an animal gets hurt, did mother nature give it a right to go to a hospital. no its called natural selection.
@taledarkside natural selection? hahahahaha are you serious??? why don't you kill retarded kids and old people while you are at it? they can't make it on their own so they are not fit to live according to your "scientific" argument.
@taledarkside You were talking about natural selection not about food chain. Retarded kids, old and handicapped people are not able to survive on their own. Letting them live consumes resources and time from their families and society. Nature wouldn't allow this to happen.
also If your sole reason for not killing disabled people is because of how they taste then.... i don't know... i am speechless :O
natual selection is part of the food chain. The slower zebra gets eaten while the faster zebra survives.
And my reference to the conspiracy theorist is people born 3000 BC didn't have hospitals. So it wasn't some god given right to have free healthcare.
I have no problem with the government taking care of retards,oldand handicap. especially when peple abandoned their own family or don't have the ability to take care of them.
@taledarkside True but the fact that healthcare exists automaticly neutralises natural selection.If you have a smart man who has a serious accident and has no money he dies while a rich disabled man in a similar situation gets to live.My point is that natural selection no longer applies in a capitalist society.It's more likely financial selection. The richest man has more chances to survive. Also i don't think people born 3000BC had a god given right to anything. The strong ones ruled the weak.
@cyberlord64 Don't be silly. Your posit of natural selection is myopic, as is, I would consequently assume, your definition of nature. You're assuming that accruing wealth contravenes selection, when it is, by the definitions and truths you just gave, a perfect example of selection. The fact that someone's survivability is no longer simply a function of muscles, eyesight, intelligence, etc is NOT the neutralization of natural selection, it is its continuation.
@pauldonovan08 Definition of natural selection: the process by which forms of life having traits that better enable them to adapt to specific environmental pressures, as predators, changes in climate, or competition for food or mates, will tend to survive and reproduce in greater numbers than others of their kind, thus ensuring the perpetuation of those favorable traits in succeeding generations.
You are speaking of artificial selection. Money is not a trait.
@cyberlord64 Point taken. I still disagree though. Artificial selection would imply that we ourselves consciously breed ourselves to a specific end. In fact, it's nearly impossible to say that without talking about eugenicists, and when I talk about wealth as a hypothetical trait, I'm not implying that rich people who reproduce do so out of a deference to eugenics. Because survivability, and not breeding, is the goal, you're still talking about natural selection... (to be continued)
@pauldonovan08 Lets assume that we have a rich and a poor identical kids. The rich kid will have access to better food, better medical care, better education. He will be healthier and smarter and will get to go to a proper college. By the time he is 25 he will have a career and start making money. The poor kid on the other hand will not get the same start. He probably won't be able to go to a college and will make a lot less. He may have a better life but won't get anywhere near the rich kid.
@cyberlord64 You're right, and it's here that it gets kind of screwy. To pursue that line of thought you must decide how far you want to go. Will you accept that the identified purpose of selection is the continuation of a species, and not an individual? If so, you may see how, regardless of "equality" or "balance," selection will occur:
To be "born into money" is a matter of probability, as it would be a matter or chance for an individual of any species to happen upon fertile ground (ct)
@cyberlord64 However, the introduction of an environmental variable that promotes the survival of an individual member of a species isn't contrary to selection, it's just another factor. If I were born into wealth (yeah, I wish), I would continue to live and have a positive environmental variable to "assist" me. If I couldn't fight a tiger, but I lived in a cave where tigers didn't go, my evolution has served my species' survival. It's hard to analyze all factors, but suffice it to say that my..
@cyberlord64 environment (wealth) isn't the only thing keeping me alive. My actions within the context of my wealth (or lack thereof) will continue to affect my survivability, and selection will still occur, and it will still define the survivability of my species. Is that fair?
Hell, if I had a ton of money I'd probably be dead by now of crashing something huge, fast, and shiny into something unmoving.
@pauldonovan08 So basicly you are saying that what is keeping you alive is the fact that you are not rich? A rich man can crash a car, a poor man can crash a car. The difference is that the rich man can still pay for the operation, treatment, reconstructive surgery And will still get back on his feet. Now of course i am not suggesting that everything can be fixed with money but your odds of surviving are a lot better if you are rich.
@cyberlord64 Well, no... I was being facetious. You did just make my point though. Selection occurs no matter what; your environment just changes your odds.
@cyberlord64 Money, or my means to earn it, defines my survivability within the context of my environment. I apologize for suggesting that you were silly, because you obviously had a strong point, but I must still insist that the introduction of technology, money included, has not supplanted natural selection. It is still its next progression. For an example, consider the chimps, dolphins, etc that have evolved to use tools in order to increase survivability. We do not call that artificial.
@pauldonovan08 Yes. In a well balanced capitalistic society what you say does apply (I would sum the ability of making money as intellect but anyway). As we both know however the world is far from perfect. less than 10% living on the planet today are wealthy. and over 40% of the world has little access to basic necessities let alone proper education. Also making money is not simply a matter of "how smart you are" but "how much you already have" Let me explain:
@taledarkside If you're paying for it from your own pocket I hope you're not planning on seeing doctors very often or you plan on learning how to diagnose illness via google. Going to the doctors or a GP to get check ups or treatment or using the emergency ward in Australia is a way of life. It's free. To us it's a basic human right. In America I know of uninsured people being refused hospital care, people refusing ambulances to avoid debt and others being in decades of debt from treatment. Ugh
@taledarkside And I know you can still be killed wearing leathers and a helmet, any idiot knows that. But a vast majority of motorbike accidents aren't fatal and in these vast majority of accidents you can significantly reduce the risk of injury or full body skin graft by wearing leathers. It just comes down to common sense and respect for your personal wellbeing but having seen how American treat their bodies, their neighbors and their land it's obvious that you aren't into self preservation.
pretty cool
1980mvagustaf4 2 weeks ago
That was badass
skibbieshits 1 month ago
MAN that is one UGLY helmet!
rodan9 2 months ago
This fucken dumb ass yank is just copying the other video what a douch
gtwnrepn 2 months ago
WIN, not fail :D
xBoy015 2 months ago
that looks like a win to me
ericjoaquin16 2 months ago
Cruise control
islanajulemi 2 months ago
If I ever see someone doing this, I will get on their tail real close and blare the horn :)
bloodhoun138 2 months ago
@bloodhoun138 what just so you can kill someone??
masscreman 2 months ago
@masscreman mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaayyyybe.
bloodhoun138 2 months ago
fail?
JGI97 3 months ago
What a small dick poser!
jeffdaharper 3 months ago
@jeffdaharper Whatever you say, but he's going like a boss
QeXeQ 2 months ago
Like a bawss!!!
UsernameThomaSS 3 months ago
Only one word comes to mind............. STUPID !!!! All it takes is one little divot in the road to turn him into hamburger meat !!!!
RobEstoker1 3 months ago
Why did'nt you scared him ? =P
pokh896 3 months ago
No helmet, no jacket, no gloves, no hands equals no skin if ya come off.
MrAlexm349 3 months ago
wtf is that song????
LBPdude501 4 months ago
other than his poor lane position where is the fail?
twistyrhodes 4 months ago
Just be glad it was NOT a women, Who knows what could have happened then !!
slav801 4 months ago
looks like a win to me
SmashingTheIE2011 4 months ago
i dont see a fail,other than no helmet .
Hemi4127 4 months ago
This should be called camera shutoff fail. WTF!?!?!!
maxtolan 4 months ago
THAT IS WHAT YOU CAN DO ON A HONDA GOLDWING WITH THE CRUIZ CONTROLL ON...i have done it lmao..lmao.
quest33613 4 months ago
@quest33613 It's called 'awesome', I don't see any fail lol.
evilcatpillow 3 months ago
What's the problem?
travisdalemcdaniel 4 months ago
I don't see the fail?
coolyboy80 4 months ago
Finally, the two babbling intellect wannabee idiots are finished yapping about shit . Get out and get a job for fuck sakes! !!
fortifier69 5 months ago
Thats dallas for ya, I live over there near 61... cant be too specific but ya that normal around here... I do it on my TTR-90 Im popin wheelies and shit on hiram sudie...
druxfilms 5 months ago
Even though he's acting relaxed, he isnt relaxed the slightest bit. 100% toolbag.
eburt6 5 months ago
How boring motorbiking can be ... the100% opposite of me in the black forest in Germany. :-)
68knative 5 months ago
I see no fail. I see WIN!
foxracing279 5 months ago
YEAH IVE SEEN ONE WHERE THE DUDE IN THE THE QUEENS CHAIR DOIN THAT
WTFFTW3567 5 months ago
There is nothing remotely fail about this.
jimmyjim1324 5 months ago 2
I love my gl1800 and you can easily do this at highway speeds. Smooth as glass too. :)
pcfix33 5 months ago
there is a video like this on youtube of a guy in brazil or india doing this on a 125cc in heavy traffic and he is texting!!!!!!!!!!
PInk77W1 5 months ago
@PInk77W1 yes lmao i been looking my ass of for it i cant find it , if i do ill post xD
FretWiz4rd 5 months ago
@FretWiz4rd I think it is under "safety fail" not sure though
PInk77W1 5 months ago
@gregboyds motorcycles make up a super small percentage. Cars make up the lions share and therefore makes sense to have them buckle up. Cars also take up tons of room, no where to go when u forget to stop sometimes. Motorcycles can swerve and avoid much more than cars
PInk77W1 5 months ago
That dude really knows how to ride :)
slav801 5 months ago
I can do this on my Goldwing since I had the Traxx Dynamics system installed. best money ever spent if you own a GL1800.
DonHarden 5 months ago
hows it a fail? must be a fail for you bcuz bikes go straight unlike cars
idiotrulz 5 months ago
Thats a win!
Adm1ralz 5 months ago
he was taking a nap, whats the big deal?
goodride2004 6 months ago
LOL....This must be that "red neck " cruise control I'v been hearing about. Well I hope king dip-shit enjoyed his ride.
TryTheRedPill 6 months ago
Posted by someone who doesnt ride
497682 6 months ago
Ya and when some animal runs across the highway we pay to pick up the pieces. Grow up ride proper and I’m sure you’ll get gear after you have some skin grafted on.
Ajax0123 6 months ago
cruise control rocks. Gold Wing FTW
MadSmokerBBQ 6 months ago
pretty cool guy
MediaMocker 6 months ago
ahhh cruise control i need it
woxow 6 months ago
He's getting head by the wind.
xtelevisionset 6 months ago
invisible man was driving the bike.
xXxMOONSPELLxXx 6 months ago
Looks like a win to me
clovis6000 6 months ago
GLAD TO SEE THE SAFETY NAZIS ON DUTY!
jehovahuponyou 6 months ago
I think he was taking a nap.
Ub3rn00berer 6 months ago
haters.
BunjeeJumper 6 months ago
Thats an EPIC WIN, not a fail
ivansmv 6 months ago 3
fatass biker fag
1999DodgeRamSport 6 months ago
@1999DodgeRamSport Shh, dickless, compensating, homosexual.
DievansTheory 6 months ago
@1999DodgeRamSport how is he fat and a fag. i would love to see you do that with 35mph wind
Super03terminator 6 months ago
You cut it before we saw his face, you probably know him. Your friend is a moron.
alexdd01 6 months ago
... with no helmet, no less !!!
dking5454 6 months ago
thats the guy from west coast choppa
adamluldum96 7 months ago
This should be called cruise control win instead of a rider safety fail
macfahad 7 months ago 97
Why the fuck would people argue about kidney stones and other shit, when they can simple watch this short video and have fun??? This should go at RWJ.
skidrowdie 7 months ago
thats pure badass!
1989fiveohman 7 months ago
0:15 BEEP the horn []_(o)[]_
TheNoisePolluter 7 months ago
i dont agree with the no helmet thing but its not hard at all to do that, granit if a car pulls out hes screwed but its alot easyer and safer balance wise then you would think
KfxHeardheadz585 7 months ago
No helmet no hands it all goes together.. lol might as well do them at the same time..
donman22 8 months ago
What a fucking moron. This is the kind of person that makes us all look bad. He should have his bike and license taken away. Permanently.
realityhack 8 months ago
YES!!! Lets argue about dumb shit on YouTube!!!!
danielgoats 8 months ago
like a boss
downshift912 8 months ago
Dude thats me.... thanks for not waking me up asshole i missed my exit. haha
DankDurfDodge 8 months ago
cruise control ON
brain control OFF
bababacardi 9 months ago
cruise control ON
bababacardi 9 months ago
Anyone ever herd of the giro effect? It 's what happens when the wheels turn, it stabilizes the bike. . . .
o56kid 9 months ago
@o56kid you ever here of 35 mph winds? doesn't matter then, tubesteak.
TIMBOD100 9 months ago
@TIMBOD100 Well if it wasn't a windy day then that's irrelevant. Even if it was, if you're doing a high speed even very strong winds have a tough time blowing you around so long as you're not pulling the bars around.
fatmikecj 9 months ago
@fatmikecj Have you ever seen and 18 wheeler laying on its side in the middle of the highway? I have witnessed the wind blowing an 80,000lb truck over so a bike will definitely move around quite a bit. I've ridden on remote roads like this where you have to lean into the wind so you're not blown over. Don't read so many books, just get out a try it.
TIMBOD100 9 months ago
@TIMBOD100 I know that, but the guy in the vid is clearly not in those sorts of conditions. Also whe riding in gusty conditions (maybe not 35mph+ to be fair) winds, it is amazing how much less the bike moves about if you relax your grip on the bars. Alot of the movement experienced is from you getting blown and pulling the bike with you rather than the bike getting blown about. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just putting something else into the discussion.
fatmikecj 9 months ago
paul senior????
GIwillo 9 months ago
In Australia it's illegal to ride a motorcycle without a helmet and it's just stupid to ride without leathers.
But then again it's probably enforced because of what it would cost in our free healthcare to treat people who have motor cycle accidents.
I guess in America it's a situation where over populated + no public health system = go ahead and ride without a helmet.
milkenobi 9 months ago 2
@milkenobi you + have a tainted sandwich
fastforthrill 9 months ago
@fastforthrill I lived in America for 3 years, I've eaten the sugar filled bread and the chemical filled meat so yeah, already had a tainted sandwich
milkenobi 9 months ago
@milkenobi
obviously you have no clue about america.
Each state has its own helmet laws. And we pay for our healthcare. so we have the freedom to do what we want.
And a helmet and a leather jacket isn't going to help you when a semi truck nails you head on.
taledarkside 9 months ago
@taledarkside No, you pay for health insurance, healthcare is different, it's a basic human right that allows people to freely go to hospitals to get medicine and be treated. You don't. Instead, people die from illnesses that could be easily treated. Being a slave to insurance companies is freedom? lol.
And obviously having a head on with a semi is the only possible accident that can occur on a motor bike right? If one has any regard for their wellbeing they'll wear leathers.
milkenobi 9 months ago
@milkenobi
I don't pay for health insurance. And no one has to pay for health insurance. it is their choice. maybe you should research a few things about the subject before you open your mouth. Like motorcycles and the United States.
You can highside a motorcycle and can still kill yourself with leathers and a helmet on. Just like i said before. the rider has the freedom to wear their own safety gear, unless it is a state law in their location.
taledarkside 9 months ago
@taledarkside Ugh, you must have selective reading or something cause it's like you didn't even read my comment. I know how it works, I lived and worked in America for years. You guys pay for health insurance to be covered if you need medical aid. Australians get it for free. Every man woman in child can visit a GP or hospital or emergency free of charge. That's public health care. Private health insurance is optional over here and same for you guys.
milkenobi 9 months ago
@milkenobi
we DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE FUCKWAD
there, i made it bigger for you to read it.
it is an OPTION to have health insurance
taledarkside 9 months ago
@taledarkside Yeah, I don't know how you can't read mate. Let me quote myself.
Exhibit A: "Private health insurance is optional over here and same for you guys."
Exhibit B: "You guys pay for health insurance to be covered if you need medical aid."
You seem to be missing the entire point of what I'm saying while arguing over something I never said. Of course you have the option of paying for health insurance, I've said it twice now and I know how it works having lived there
You must be thick
milkenobi 9 months ago
@milkenobi
I can read bullshit consiracy theorist comments that you left
"No, you pay for health insurance, healthcare is different, it's a basic human right that allows people to freely go to hospitals to get medicine and be treated. You don't. Instead, people die from illnesses that could be easily treated. Being a slave to insurance companies is freedom? lol."
"being a slave to insurance companies"
just like i said before, we have the freedom to have insurance or not.
dumbfuck
taledarkside 9 months ago
@taledarkside Yeah, we get free health care, if you guys want it you have to pay large amounts of money to criminals, AKA insurance companies. Let me ask you, if your wife or kids get really sick and you don't have insurance what do you do? I've seen with my own eyes people be in debt, refuse amblulances and one person even died from your 'freedom'? In Australia we have access to free hospitals, ER, the whole lot. We don't worry about sickness & disease like Americans so cause our country cares.
milkenobi 9 months ago
@milkenobi
There are free medical service for people that really need it.
are you going to continue on with your assumptions of the united states healthcare. Obviously, you have been wrong with all your statements so far.
you watch some alex jones video, and now you think how our healthcare works. ROFL
taledarkside 9 months ago
@taledarkside What statements have been wrong? Who is Alex Jones? I know about the free services. I had a friend named Josh in Florida, he had a seizure one day & it freaked his family out. His mum applied for medicaid & they buried her in paperwork required to get free health care. A few weeks later as they were processing his claim he had a 2nd seizure & suffocated and died. He had only just turned 18, in Australia he would have been treated immediately.
Land of the free home of the slaves.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
Maybe his mom is an idiot like you. and you don't cure seizures.
she must have been from australia too, the 2nd dumbest country next to the UK. Too stupid to call an ambulance.
and btw, its "MOM" not "MUM" you got crocodile for brains?
where is the part where we require to have insurance? stupid fuck
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I'm sorry for your delusions, Australia has a much higher standard of education than the US and Australians enjoy a much higher standard of living. From my experience most Americans live in sub par conditions and live well below the standards of Australians. Australians are also statistically a lot happier than you. Also most of the world spells 'mum' and America spells it 'mom'.
There's are all researchable facts.
But feel free to keep being deluded.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
still waiting for you to prove," we are forced to have health insurance"
i see how your education is so much higher, since you can't answer a simple question.
your education must have taught you to go off topic went you can't answer a question, right?
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I never said it was forced. Allow me quote myself .. again
Exhibit A: "Private health insurance is optional over here and same for you guys."
Exhibit B: "You guys pay for health insurance to be covered if you need medical aid."
I'm well aware that Americans either choose to pay for health insurance or have it as part of their employment. I've never said otherwise but you've been arguing it since the beginning. Show me where I said you have forced health insurance cause I didn't
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
""No, you pay for health insurance, healthcare is different, it's a basic human right that allows people to freely go to hospitals to get medicine and be treated. You don't. Instead, people die from illnesses that could be easily treated. Being a slave to insurance companies is freedom? lol."
posted it twice.
I know you australians can't read just like the people in the UK. idiots that think lochness and crop circles are real.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I said that health care is paid for in America and it's free in Australia. Did I say it was forced?
No. I never did.
That's some information you added or assumed yourself. The part where I said you can die from easily treatable conditions further implies your system is optional. By being a slave to insurance companies I meant that if you want healthcare you need to pay insurance companies. They're rip off merchants, they don't give fair prices and you guys have no other choice
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
"By being a slave to insurance companies "
you don't have to have insurance to have healthcare.
and therefore, your comment implies we are slaves because we pay for insurance.
hence, you don't know shit.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Yeah I know you can get healthcare from your job, military service and various other ways. I said that earlier.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
no shit
and i still said you don't need health insurance. doesn't matter if your job,military etc... gives you health insurance. even if they didn't. you do NOT need health insurance.
so you being a nutjob and claiming "your a slave to the health insurance" shows your ignorance on the topic like the other dopes from australia and the UK
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside And I've never once said that you have been forced to aqquire health insurance. If you haven't figured that out then you are dense. The thing is, if you get sick, if one of your kids get sick what are you gonna do? Google the symptoms? In Australia you take advantage of the basic human right to be treated. You on the other hand will have to purchase insurance from the insurance companies, they are rip off merchants and for a majority of people that's their only avenue to treatment
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
if my kids is sick. I bring them to the hospital. when I get done, they send me a bill in the mail.
wow, thats fucking hard.
so wheres this bullshit "slave to the health insurance"
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside How can you afford that? While working in the USA my family needed medical aid 3 times. It wasn't cheap. My son had a minor burn on the leg & needed some cream and was bandaged, 2 hrs in the ward $1,500. I cut my hand, got an x-ray + 2 stitches, 2 hrs in emergency, almost $2000. My wife spent 2 nights in hospital from a kidney stone, $8000. Luckily we were insured.
AN American friend of mine's daughter was bitten by a brown recluse, they'll be paying off the debt for many years
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
the issue isn't about if you can afford it.
the issue is you claiming "we are slaves to the insurance companies"
maybe your wife shouldn't be fat, then she wouldn't get kidney stones
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I see where this is going. You can search my channel & see my wife. She's very thin. If you think kidney stones are caused by weight then you're gonna have to brush up on your google doctoring cause you're not going to be able to treat your family unless, like most, you buy into a crooked insurance company. That is what I meant. For most Americans, paying ridiculous premiums is the only way to remain healthy. That's not freedom. But then again, most slaves don't know they're slaves
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
once again, no one is forced to pay insurance.
wow are you so fucking stupid.
you get kidney stones from not eating healthy and not drinking water. don't need google, since I took numerous biology classes at a university.
you don't need insurance to be healthy. wow keep coming with your stupid opinions
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside And you need to go back to biology class cause kidney stones are also hereditary. And no you don't need insurance to be healthy but assuming that you won't need to visit a doctor or need medical aid because of a condition or accident that you didn't plan is the kind of anti forward thinking that Americans love. It's just plain stupidity. Living a healthy lifestyle (which Australia does better) will not prevent a spider biting you and needing treatment. I pity Americans.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@m
LOL your mom passed kidneystones to the kids. funny shit.
you can go to a doctor 5000 times without health insurance. remember i said you have the FREEDOM. personal freedom and personal choice.
person who lives a healthy life, jobs, exercises etc..... can go 2 a doctor without health insurance. OH NO there goes your theory.
I don't give a fuck if a fat person dies. no matter wat country. U crying Dat government should baby sit people instead of people taking self responsibiliy
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Yes, kidney stones can in fact be hereditary. Do some research before you sound dumber.
And no, without insurance you are not entitled to aid. You can tell me about the mythical 'duty of care' but I've seen with my own eyes the opposite. I know personally 2 people who were refused care, one was an older lady who turned away from ER for a potential heart attack because she lacked insurance. & my other friend died while his mother was trying to apply for free aid.
Freedom? lol, no
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
i don't need research, it was done in university biology. australians must not be healthy when they get kidney stones.
I get aid without insurance all the time. So some old lady was faking a heart attack.
and the 2nd maybe your friend should have stayed in the down under. maybe you should blame god for your friend dying from a seizure. blame the insurance, sure .
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Do your research again, kidney stones are in fact hereditary, you studied biology, not medicine. Any intelligent person will back me up.
Just because you get aid all the time it doesn't mean every one in your country does. I've seen the proof.
My friend was American, he was born and raised there. And your country let him die there because they didn't allow him into a hospital because didn't have insurance.
Nice try mate. You keep looking dumber and dumber.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
Like how you keep changing the facts about your friend to support your agenda. LOL
still waiting for the answer why mexicans and canadians come to america for healthcare.
strange that mexicans don't get turned down for healthcare, and they have no insurance
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Changing my facts? Show me where I said my friend was Australian? I don't change facts, but you invent them. Like the fact that you learned in biology that kidney stones aren't hereditary.
And I'm sorry, I'm not gonna answer why Canadians go to America for healthcare cause they don't. In fact I know many Americans who've gone to Canada for free healthcare.
Holding a logical, factual reasonable conversation with you is futile.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
You changing the facts has nothing to do with where your friend is from.
something coming from a biology book isn't inventing facts, nice try thou. LOL
You can't answer why canadians come to the US to use our medicine because its better. 2nd. because the Canadian government decides how much healthcare each person deserves to receive.
still waiting for how all the mexicans come to the united states hundreds at a time everyday
taledarkside 8 months ago
@milkenobi
oh wow, look how Canadians look like pieces of shit on the news today. dumb people like australians.
store owners are protecting their property, then a mass of dumb puppets Canadians, beat the guy. explain the logical to me.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside And the issue IS about not affording it. Seriously, what are you going to do if one of your family gets really sick? Go into a lifetime of debt? Risk being refused care because you're uninsured? It's easy when you're young and invincible but when you have a family, illness and injury is inevitable, it's a natural part of life. If you want to be able to provide your family with adequate health care your country doesn't provide that basic right, are bound to insurance companies.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
if you can't afford kids dont have them. And stupid people shouldn't have kids either if they take them to the ER instead of a doctor's office.
health care isn't a right. LOL
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Of course you don't think it's a right cause it's a freedom you've never tasted. Mexico has it, Canada has it, Europe, most of south America too. It's worldwide. The Congressional Budget Office & related government agencies scored the cost of a universal health care system several times since 1991 & have uniformly predicted cost savings, because of the 40% cost savings associated with universal preventative care & elimination of insurance company overheads. It actually saves money!
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
If mexico has free healthcare, why are all the mexicans jumping over the fence and coming here illegally? Why are Canadians come to America for our healthcare?
please answer that
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Doesn't it make you wonder that America is one of the most richest & developed countries on the planet yet it ranks as one of the most unhealthily? Australia ranks in the top 10. It would actually save your country money, your own Congressional Budget gurus figured this out decades ago.
Yet sill yanks always seem to oppose it. Maybe you think it'll cost you more money, maybe you think it's communism, maybe you are all just self destructive and don't care about the future. I dunno
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
Fat overweight people just pay more in insurance then other people.
And it is a very hard study to claim who is overweight and if it is a growing epidemic. America isn't 1 culture, since it is a culture of many countries. And as i see it, less then 10% of the population is obese. And i know a lot of fat people that just become fat so they don't have to work.
So how does australia handle that issue. 400lb people that do it on purpose to get free gov aid?
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I wasn't talking about being overweight. I was talking about health. Australia is in the top 10 for healthiest countries as well as standard of living and happiness.
And for the record people don't pay more for insurance based on their weight. And you think only 10% of the American population is obese?
I suggest you take your own advice about doing research mate.
What is it with you Americans? Were you born with such prodeful arrogance or were you raised to be like that?
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
How would you know how insurance works, since you dont live here. And you have no clue about the choice of not having insurance.
I walk past 10 people. I see 1 person obese. that would be 10% I know, you suck at math too.
I just have a high IQ and have many years of advance learning. australians and UK like i stated before are really dumb. bunch of dope smoking conspiracy theorists
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I know how your insurance works because I've lived in your country and purchased insurance. You on the other hand don't have insurance. So therefore we can conclude I have more experience with your health insurance system.
And please never get a job and the department of statistics, you suck at it.
Goodbye you dull, uneducated, ignorant American.
Have a nice life in your terrible country.
milkenobi 8 months ago
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside And I know you don't have insurance cause you said several times that you don't have it and you don't pay for it and that's your choice. You even said that if your kids get sick you'll take them to a hospital & they'll send you a bill later.
ANd I never said your government doesn't want free healthcare, I said YOU don't want free healthcare. Of course your government wants it. They have set an end date of 2019 to implement it. Fuck you are dense, I swear you can't read or somethin
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
You are making an assumption that i don't have insurance.
me giving you an example of what a person would do if they had children and had to go to the doctor isn' evidence. Its a fact of the possiblities to do if you had no insurance. which you claim is evil then you change your mind.
You were claiming the government is brainwashing people to stay fat and not have free healthcare .......i can quote you
taledarkside 8 months ago
@milkenobi
always funny when you stump someone stupid on the internet. they always can't answer the question so they pussy out and say "your wasting my time" or "goodbye"
milkenobi is going back to leeching off his government. thats what stupid people do since they can't see the bigger picture of humanity.
come back when you find out why illegals come to america for our healthcare and services. Or why exchange students come here for our education.
oh ya, i stumped you.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Yes you have stumped me. I just cannot find a way to communicate basic common sense to you. You make up facts, ignore my comments and then awkwardly jumble them together into a sentence with the proficiency and grammar of 10 year old, all the while claiming that you have superior IQ. After presenting you with facts and logic you insist on arguing points that I didn't even make. So yes, I truly am stumped.
Anyone willing to read the comments for themselves will see for themselves.
milkenobi 8 months ago
And just for laughs, here's some points for you but I doubt you'll understand them unless I explain them with animation or finger puppets.
Your country has a higher obesity rate than 10%
You tax won't go up to 70% if you have free healthcare
You country will save money if it introduces public health
Its the Americans that go to Canada for free healthcare, not the other way around, it's a big problem
I don't leech off my government, I pay my taxes
I know how your insurance works from experience
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
The country is 14 trillion dollars in debt. And you expect health care going to "save money" they have idiots managing things now, and you expect free healthcare to be managed by the same people ROFL
Private industry fires stupid employees. Government doesn't . thats why having a CHOICE is real freedom
Why did a bunch of parents bring their kids from Canada to the US?
And you still havn't answered why mexicans come to the US. I don't see US people going to mexico
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside Your congressional bean counters figured out it will save money, not me. Google it, it's fact. Your congress has crunched the numbers several times, not mine, YOURS.
Mexicans don't come to America primarily for the healthcare you dumbass. There's a myriad of reasons they jump the border and if you think it's just for the doctors ... you're thick
You really need to do some research. It's amazing that I'm not American and I seem to know more than you about your country.
milkenobi 8 months ago
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@milkenobi
yup, you know so much about my country, you claimed we are forced to have health insurance. And you can't answer why mexicans and canadians come here for healthcare
LOL
taledarkside 8 months ago
@milkenobi
I'm glad America doesn't have free healthcare. my taxes would be 70% of my wages because idiots like you.
minor burn, and you went to the ER. glad i didn't pay for that shit
you cut your hand cuz your a dope, glad i didn't have to pay for that
idiots that go to the ER for minor shit.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside You're glad America doesn't have free healthcare but the ironic thing is that America spends a much higher percentage of tax payer money on health, hospitals & aid schemes on it's people than Australia spends on it's own per capita. And our health system is far superior. 70% lol, you're taxed as much as us. So you're paying a lot more and you're not even getting it for free.
Our taxes pay for our health care. You're taxes pay for ... I don't know, war and fat politicians perhaps?
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi
Our money doesn't go into the medical field. 3rd think you just invent facts because you read something on the internet.
US is the largest country that sends money to other nations. How much money does Australia send? How much foreign aid did you do for the Japanese, and Haiti recently?
wow, are you dumb at reading. I didn't say we are taxed at 70%. I can see why your dumb when you can't recall what you just read.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside I never said you WERE taxed 70%, I quoted your the idea of being taxed 70% for public healthcare as laughable. Perhaps I should have explained using puppets. I can honestly say that you are of a very low level of intelligence judging by your reading comprehension and grammar. Also you are clearly misinformed about certain topics and make up statistics based on your personal experience with no regard for actual facts.
Enjoy the sinking ship that is your 3rd world country.
Goodbye.
milkenobi 8 months ago
"I'm glad America doesn't have free healthcare" ... Sometimes people's stupidity amazes me. You're glad you can't freely go to a GP, a hospital or the ER room? Why? Don't you want that basic human right?
I guess the government feeds you a load of bull that your taxes will skyrocket and you eat it up like so many hamburgers.
milkenobi 8 months ago
@milkenobi z
free healthcare isn't basic human right
when did getting a bandaid on a cut, a right? So when an animal gets hurt, did mother nature give it a right to go to a hospital. no its called natural selection.
someone needs to learn science
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside natural selection? hahahahaha are you serious??? why don't you kill retarded kids and old people while you are at it? they can't make it on their own so they are not fit to live according to your "scientific" argument.
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@cyberlord64
retarded and old people are not delicious enough to eat
taledarkside 7 months ago
@taledarkside You were talking about natural selection not about food chain. Retarded kids, old and handicapped people are not able to survive on their own. Letting them live consumes resources and time from their families and society. Nature wouldn't allow this to happen.
also If your sole reason for not killing disabled people is because of how they taste then.... i don't know... i am speechless :O
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@cyberlord64
natual selection is part of the food chain. The slower zebra gets eaten while the faster zebra survives.
And my reference to the conspiracy theorist is people born 3000 BC didn't have hospitals. So it wasn't some god given right to have free healthcare.
I have no problem with the government taking care of retards,oldand handicap. especially when peple abandoned their own family or don't have the ability to take care of them.
taledarkside 7 months ago
@taledarkside True but the fact that healthcare exists automaticly neutralises natural selection.If you have a smart man who has a serious accident and has no money he dies while a rich disabled man in a similar situation gets to live.My point is that natural selection no longer applies in a capitalist society.It's more likely financial selection. The richest man has more chances to survive. Also i don't think people born 3000BC had a god given right to anything. The strong ones ruled the weak.
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@cyberlord64 Don't be silly. Your posit of natural selection is myopic, as is, I would consequently assume, your definition of nature. You're assuming that accruing wealth contravenes selection, when it is, by the definitions and truths you just gave, a perfect example of selection. The fact that someone's survivability is no longer simply a function of muscles, eyesight, intelligence, etc is NOT the neutralization of natural selection, it is its continuation.
pauldonovan08 7 months ago
@pauldonovan08 Definition of natural selection: the process by which forms of life having traits that better enable them to adapt to specific environmental pressures, as predators, changes in climate, or competition for food or mates, will tend to survive and reproduce in greater numbers than others of their kind, thus ensuring the perpetuation of those favorable traits in succeeding generations.
You are speaking of artificial selection. Money is not a trait.
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@cyberlord64 Point taken. I still disagree though. Artificial selection would imply that we ourselves consciously breed ourselves to a specific end. In fact, it's nearly impossible to say that without talking about eugenicists, and when I talk about wealth as a hypothetical trait, I'm not implying that rich people who reproduce do so out of a deference to eugenics. Because survivability, and not breeding, is the goal, you're still talking about natural selection... (to be continued)
pauldonovan08 7 months ago
@pauldonovan08 Lets assume that we have a rich and a poor identical kids. The rich kid will have access to better food, better medical care, better education. He will be healthier and smarter and will get to go to a proper college. By the time he is 25 he will have a career and start making money. The poor kid on the other hand will not get the same start. He probably won't be able to go to a college and will make a lot less. He may have a better life but won't get anywhere near the rich kid.
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@cyberlord64 You're right, and it's here that it gets kind of screwy. To pursue that line of thought you must decide how far you want to go. Will you accept that the identified purpose of selection is the continuation of a species, and not an individual? If so, you may see how, regardless of "equality" or "balance," selection will occur:
To be "born into money" is a matter of probability, as it would be a matter or chance for an individual of any species to happen upon fertile ground (ct)
pauldonovan08 7 months ago
@cyberlord64 However, the introduction of an environmental variable that promotes the survival of an individual member of a species isn't contrary to selection, it's just another factor. If I were born into wealth (yeah, I wish), I would continue to live and have a positive environmental variable to "assist" me. If I couldn't fight a tiger, but I lived in a cave where tigers didn't go, my evolution has served my species' survival. It's hard to analyze all factors, but suffice it to say that my..
pauldonovan08 7 months ago
@cyberlord64 environment (wealth) isn't the only thing keeping me alive. My actions within the context of my wealth (or lack thereof) will continue to affect my survivability, and selection will still occur, and it will still define the survivability of my species. Is that fair?
Hell, if I had a ton of money I'd probably be dead by now of crashing something huge, fast, and shiny into something unmoving.
pauldonovan08 7 months ago 13
@pauldonovan08 So basicly you are saying that what is keeping you alive is the fact that you are not rich? A rich man can crash a car, a poor man can crash a car. The difference is that the rich man can still pay for the operation, treatment, reconstructive surgery And will still get back on his feet. Now of course i am not suggesting that everything can be fixed with money but your odds of surviving are a lot better if you are rich.
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@cyberlord64 Well, no... I was being facetious. You did just make my point though. Selection occurs no matter what; your environment just changes your odds.
pauldonovan08 7 months ago
@pauldonovan08 You know I didn't think of it that way. what you say makes more scene.
cyberlord64 7 months ago
@pauldonovan08 Best comment, i want money too
QeXeQ 2 months ago
@cyberlord64 Money, or my means to earn it, defines my survivability within the context of my environment. I apologize for suggesting that you were silly, because you obviously had a strong point, but I must still insist that the introduction of technology, money included, has not supplanted natural selection. It is still its next progression. For an example, consider the chimps, dolphins, etc that have evolved to use tools in order to increase survivability. We do not call that artificial.
pauldonovan08 7 months ago
@pauldonovan08 Yes. In a well balanced capitalistic society what you say does apply (I would sum the ability of making money as intellect but anyway). As we both know however the world is far from perfect. less than 10% living on the planet today are wealthy. and over 40% of the world has little access to basic necessities let alone proper education. Also making money is not simply a matter of "how smart you are" but "how much you already have" Let me explain:
cyberlord64 7 months ago
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@milkenobi
" guess the government feeds you a load of bull that your taxes will skyrocket and you eat it up like so many hamburgers."
yup, more dumb statements from you. Did you invent the bullshit you type too.
hmm, thats weird how Obama, (the government) wants free healthcare.
so go on, keep telling us how the government doesn't want free healthcare.
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside If you're paying for it from your own pocket I hope you're not planning on seeing doctors very often or you plan on learning how to diagnose illness via google. Going to the doctors or a GP to get check ups or treatment or using the emergency ward in Australia is a way of life. It's free. To us it's a basic human right. In America I know of uninsured people being refused hospital care, people refusing ambulances to avoid debt and others being in decades of debt from treatment. Ugh
milkenobi 8 months ago
@taledarkside So which system seems better to you?
milkenobi 9 months ago
@taledarkside And I know you can still be killed wearing leathers and a helmet, any idiot knows that. But a vast majority of motorbike accidents aren't fatal and in these vast majority of accidents you can significantly reduce the risk of injury or full body skin graft by wearing leathers. It just comes down to common sense and respect for your personal wellbeing but having seen how American treat their bodies, their neighbors and their land it's obvious that you aren't into self preservation.
milkenobi 9 months ago
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@milkenobi
looks like your confused about personal freedom. Something you never will have in your 3rd world country.
taledarkside 9 months ago