Non-scientist are not qualified to judge or comment on science as they do not understand it. This idea extends to most professions. As a scientist I do not make comments on dentistry or try to drill people's teeth as I am not a dentist. I do not try to manage people's taxes and accounts as I am not an accountant. I do not practice law as I am not a lawyer and have no expertise in law. When everyone thinks their comments are equal on every subject with out having expertise we have a problem.
haha. "why arent we still adapting? why havent we seen tremendious change?" HOLY SHIT, he knows nothing? really nothing about what hes trying to debate.. i fuckin hate retards, make me wanna cry
LOL... Jeszuzfreek, you ask how the elements were created since the big bang didn't create them, and post a link to a video telling you how?
Why would the 2nd law of thermodynamics apply to an open system?
You appear to be confusing acclimation with evolutionary change causing adaptation. The two are different subjects, with different rates of change. For evolutionary change, in my lifetime we have observed creation of new genetic information, ecological niches, structures, species, ...
"Which is true, I mean it is a theory [evolution], I mean it's good that they say that, it gives you hope doesn't it?, that maybe they feel the same way about the theory of, gravity, and they might just float the fuck away"
Evolution is NOT Cosmology, Darwinism is NOT a religion, people who support evolution are NOT all atheists, 2nd law of thermodinamics applies ONLY to closed enviroments, not all humans are designed perfectly in the order you described it (i.e. skin cancer), morality DOESN'T come from religion, i.e. if there was no bibble would murder go unpunished, NO, it would be punished by man laws, in mortal time, your argument doesn't stand a chance if you don't believe in aftermath
I dont want to watch the rest of this vid, The title in its self is stupid enough. Big bang vs Evolution. These things dont verse eachother they are FACT!!!!!
@tomerlivechen Actually you can see Evolution over a short time, there is this ground in england that is poisened by some element, But there are new worms that have evolved to resist this element
True, in his video he referred to human evolution. Which as a human you cannot see, but any Creature with a short enough life span it's evolution can be seen. I should have written "human evolution".
For instance bacteria have a life cycle of less than an hour, and in less the two days you can see evolution do to the selection substance you use.
"I see this video called 'Is the BIG BANG a bust?'"
I only have to watch 10 seconds of your video to know that you have no idea what you are talking about. It only takes 10 seconds to know that the video is not worth to watch.
Shyn0h, it's a National Geographic video about the birth of the solar system, so watch away if you like. The main error it has is in the description, which implies that the big bang was at the solar system's birth.
Shyn0h, my reply was regarding your comment about taking 10 seconds to realize it's not worth watching. Or did you mean Jezuzfreek's video, not the NG video Jezuzfreek was talking about? .
Well ofc I was talking about Jezuzfreek his video :) My point was that he mistakenly links evolution to the big bang theory and that was clearly the case in the mere 10 first seconds of his video.
Could you define what you mean by "Big changes"? You didn't really go anywhere with that... and besides, your point about scientists arguing is entirely invalid. When scientists argue, they win. They put forward their ideas and evidence and in the end either someone is convinced or both sides leave to collect more evidence. But when Christian denominations argue, they don't come to a conclusion at all. They just separate into Catholicism, Anglican, Baptists, etc and never deal with each other.
@jezuzfreek777 . Science does not prove nor disprove god; It is content agnostic. The Big Bang did not "create" this universe. At the plank time, all of our knowledge does not apply. Evolution has nothing do with the Big Bang, but both are well documented scientific theory that has been verified by scientist all over the world. There is more evidence for evolution than their is for gravity.
were they simple animals? In your visions animals evolve, or not? If you are indeed right and Jesus is the son of God and walked the Earth, then he could not explain evolution to some ancient superstitious people and he invented the story about the Adam and Eve to make them understand that they are different from animals and should run the world... Keep some logic in religion and it will still be powerful, but hold on irrational statements and it'll slowly fade away in history!
believe in a God who created the Universe and eventually life, but I think that once matter and life was created, evolution continued the process. Science has no real explanation for why and how the Big Bang happened, so it can't deny the possibility that a superior being forged it, but ask yourself why do we find frozen primitive humans if you think we were created from dirt? Why does Australopithecus exist? Why does Pithecanthropus Erectus exist? They were all created from dirt separately? Or
change" and adaptation to dramatic climate changes takes millions of years, and while our civilization is only 10000 years old, it will probably destroy itself in atomic wars a couple of times before we get some "Tremendous changes"... Really, how much logic do you need to figure out that evolution is a long process and can't be noticed in the present time? Why do you think some species died in ice ages? Adaptation is achieved only in generations...
"Why aren't we adapting to it (the environment) anymore? Why aren't we seeing tremendous change?" You are kidding me, right? It is NOT possible that this words actually came out of your month... Did they??? Look, the evolution of species takes MILLIONS OF YEARS, and the fact that some dinosaur species (like the Archeopteryx for example) became birds after 50 million years of evolution doesn't mean that back in the Cretaceous period you could see a T-Rex evolving feather over night... "Tremendous
Isn't that what evolution is? Small changes over time until the animal is no longer what it once was. I figure that since we no extinction exists that we would assume that like all systems there would be an opposite end of that spectrum (evolution, new species) How dare people want to remove something they can't see taste touch feel or comprehend from their lives. Are you aware that scientist may soon be finding how to get living matter from nonliving?
We adapted to the environment and we're still adapting to it, but it happens too slowly to notice it.
You clearly don't know how evolution or adaptation works.
The way adaptation works is through natural selection (i.e., survival of the fittest) and small mutations. The animals best fit to survive their environment live to reproduce, making the next generation similar to the survivors. And this continues on along with the changing environment.
Atheist are under the impression that science have 95% of the universe figured out and only 5% is unknown, when in reality it's the other way around, we only have 5% of the universe figured out and 95% is still unknown.
@mymatryoshka On the history channel the other day, an Atheist cosmologist stated that the visible, known universe, is only 5% of the whole universe. 95% of the universe is made up of invisible, dark matter and energy. There are tremendous technological advancements made in technology every week but contrary to what Atheists think, science has not advanced forward at the rate technology has.
Ezekiel 13:3
Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
@HolyRevelation new technology is the result of advances in science. technological advancement can't come without scientific advancement. technology does not advance faster than science does. if it did, new technology would pointless, worthless, usless, and probably very dangerous.
The Earth did not start out near this complex and "formed" when it was first formed it was just a mass of different elements. Its "form" came about from millions of years.
naturally, when a nucleus with one or two protons joins another nucleus also with one or two protons, the result would be a nucleus with either 2, 3 or 4 protons, aka helium, lithium, beryllium, two of which weren't created by the big bang. from there, more fusion happened and, as a result, more new elements with higher atomic numbers.
evolution is based on genetic changes. a person adjusting to a warm or cold climate after a move isn't a genetic change. it's probably a strengthening of the immune system, which is probably an ability that humans developed as a result of genetic changes.
and the elements that weren't created by the big bang were created by nuclear fusion in stars made of the elements that were created by the big bang. their nuclei were fused because they were so close to each other (stars a very dense) and,
We are not waterpoof thats why your fingers get the way they get when ou go in the wtaer, we are not perfect at all. EG the eye nerves pass in front of the retina before going to the brain, we share the same entrance for food and air, which can make us choke, other animals can't choke... why would god do that to us? We fall on our arms but our arms bones are really weak, I know it by experience... Our body has loads of problems, thats why we don't all live 120 years or more. NOW GO READ A BOOK!
dude the earth or we were not created for it . in earth more than 99.83 % of it we cant live on . if we go to high we cant breath if we goto low the earths heat will kill us we were not made for it and all u say is bullshit scientist have facts creationist just put god in all the thibgs they cant understand so they wont feel lost
this guys a douche bag, rlly he gave examples of situational adaptives, evolution is change as the situation changes, making us adapt over long periods of time into total different type of same species
If you talk about "perfect for earth" then how do you explain the Peruvians in the Andes who live at 13,000 feet (an altitude where others suffer from hypoxia) and have no ill effects because their bodies have evolved through their ancestors living there for over 2500 years?
There's no rhyme or reason?? I'm really about to punch you in the face during this video. you have barely any scientific background, and this is obvious. Evolution takes place over millions of years, and the human body is not perfect by any means. EVER HEARD OF DISEASE? Nothing is perfect, everything is relative.
Btw: Big Bang THEORY! It's always been a theory!! U retardddd
HUMANS ARE PERFECT? RESISTANT TO THE SUN? EVER HEARD OF SKIN CANCER? RESISTANT TO THE HEAT AND THE COLD? EVER SAT IN A DESERT FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES? EVERY GONE NAKED IN ANTARCTICA? OOO MYYY FUKING
watch all of thunderf00ts videos if you think after that that the bible is correct and creationists are then you should probably kill yourself and support the natural selection of killing off all the dumbest cunts in the world
WHY DO SOME SPECIES DIE OFF? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH SUFFERING ON THE EARTH IF GOD 'CREATED' EVERYTHING? ARE YOU SAYING GOD IS A CUNT? HE MUST BE BECAUSE THIS WORLD IS NOT 'PERFECT' LIKE MOST YOU RICH CHRISTIAN CUNTS THINK BECAUSE YOU HAVE HAPPY AND EASY LIVES. THE MAJORITY OF HUMAN BEINGS LIVE ON 2 DOLLARS A DAY AND ARE HUNGRY AND SICK 24/7. WHY DID HE MAKE THE DINOSAURS? HUMANS DON'T LIVE WITH THEM SO WHY WOULD HE BOTHER MAKING THEM FIRST? EVERYTHING GOES AGAINST THE BIBLE.. OH MY FUCKING GOD
go back millions of years and natural selection selected us
thats why we are strong in our enviironment
and why is there cancer and disease then? we're not perfect
omfg what a dumb cunt ahahha .. science is right.. the bible is a bunch of fucking BULL FUCKING SHIT you DUMB CUNT FUCKIN HELL IM SHAKING WITH RAGE LOLOLOL FUCKING FUCK..
The "materials" come from nuclear fusion of elements. The fusion of elements up to iron are all exothermic reactions (produce heat). iron forms producing No heat and builds up in the center of the star which cools it. the heavier elements form in nuclear fusion during a supernova.
firstly i dont understand why you refer to the bible as being the "truth". how deluded are you??? secondly the big bang theory has never been considered a fact, it has always been a theory. And why are you so quick to condemn a theory that cant be proven?? you obviously believe in a false god....where is the proof there? not being able to observe evolution makes no sense and there have been comments relating to this already posted.
firstly i dont understand why you refer to the bible as being the "truth". how deluded are you??? secondly the big bang theory has never been considered a fact, it has always been a theory. And why are you so quick to condemn a theory that cant be proven?? you obviously believe in a false god....where is the proof there? not being able to observe evolution makes no sense and there have been comments relating to this already posted.
"Those elements could not have come from the Big Bang." -- Sez who?
"All we see is minor adaptations, not large ones." -- And how long have we been observing evolution? Couple hundred years, max? And how long do large scale changes take? Tens if not hundreds of thousands if not millions of years?
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!! If you find someone who needs batting practice with creationist ideas, show them this video, even a someone with a high school science education will hit a home run every time!
believing in jesus is the easy way out, it requires no thought. You have a book to tell you what to do. "When you have priests or any other creed of man you can forgive sins you will have sin in abundance." Thomas Paine
Evolution has NOTHING to do with the Big Bang. The Big Bang is COSMOLOGY not EVOLUTION!
The planet formed vastly different from the way we see it today. How the earth has changed over time is allso NOT Evolution!
The human body seems perfect? Are you serious?
The human eye has a blind spot. Are blind spots perfect?
There are over 4000 deformities in the human body which no doubt you will claim come from a SIN bullshit. however we have NO EVIDENCE that the human body was ever Prefect
"they say the big bang created this universe" No the big bang is the first thing we can know in the universe because before it the laws of physics don't apply. The universe could infinity repeat or go on for infinity, we just don't know. But the evidence does not support "god did it".
"Merely a theory" Like theory of gravity, cell theory, atomic theory, germ theory. A theory is supported by all the facts and rejected by none, doesn't it say something that all 99% of scientists agree with me?
"we don't see this in the animal kingdom" Nylon eating bacteria (achromobacter guttatus)
"(judge evolutionists saying they are trying to escape accountability)" I could never worship a god who endorses rape, slavery, homicide, genocide, homophobia and bigotry. If i had a choice i would rather go to hell, good thing it doesn't exist! I am accountable, I'm accountable to myself. Whatever i do i have to live with it for the rest of my life, i don't need a god to be moral.
"Either we were designed to fit the earth or the earth was designed to fit us"
That is a false dichotomy, once life starts on earth it would evolve through natural selection to fit it's environment.
"why aren't we still adapting" We are, it's so gradual it's nearly impossible to notice. Kinda like the curvature of the earth.
"(climate Metaphor)" That is not how evolution works. It's changes over successive generations. The physical changes of one person aren't passed down, just genetic ones.
I got this question to ask, why would scientist lie? Christians have a good reason to say why their theory is the best even tho there are theories/facts that are much better, they think they are going to hell if they don't think the Bible is correct. Scientist or atheists don't have anything like that, they are looking for the best possible theory, if the God theory was the best, there'd not be any atheists, it's not like atheism or science is rebeling against God.
Are you a fucking dickhead? ALL elements come from energy. Infact, ELEMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY STATES OF ENERGY. The essential components of ALL elements are IDENTICAL, they just have different numbers of electrons. You are not a scientist. You do NOT have a scientific education, so shut the fuck up and go back to bible school you idiot. Stop thinking that you can correct science when you barely understand it yourself.
I used to be christian, now I have realised it doesn't make sense. I don't understand why people waste there time pretending they already know how and why everything works instead of accepting that the universe is far too vast to comprehend and everyone should just try to enjoy the life-span that they exsist within it.
If we were able to perfectly complement the earth then why are there so many natural hazards that can still kill us like, tsunamis, earthquakes, tornados, ice, desert, drowning in large bodies of water, pyroclastic flows. if the earth complements us then again, why is it able to kill us and injure us so easily?
Our bodies are waterproof? People drown all the time. We're so well adapted to the Earth because this is where we come from. We are a product of our environment, not the other way around.
Fair enough that you find peace in the religion sir jezuzfreek777, but do you really have to make a fool out of yourself to YouTube? :) You seem pretty ignorant to everything else than mister G and Jesus. I find it a bit creepy that you live by a lil' book so strictly :) If I come up with a statement here, some douchebag will go like "GOD MADE IT THAT WAY" - You always seem to find a way to lead stuff back to 'God'. Oh btw- Today you say: GOD PWNS - Tomorrow you might wonder: Who created God?
1: They evolved. Stars covert simpler smalelr atoms into larger more complex elements all the time.
2: The earth is not a closed system.
3: We evovled to match the earth. Natural selection adapt beings for survival. And natural selection works slowly, yes. Besides, do you know how many planets there are in the visible universe? One like the earth is bound to have existed.
4: You claim there is science to support theism. Please explain, don't just claim you can. Your bible is just a book.
3rd post: You are not held accountable if you don't believe in god? That's a pretty minimalistic point of view. You live in a community, you are being held accountable for your actions by the rest of humanity. You don't need a deity or god for that.
What you are saying is that without faith/belief in god we are barbaric, ignorant and selfish.
Your "logic" is nothing but saying; "I'm right because I am and you're wrong because I say so." Try to make some valid arguments next time.
2nd post: The human body seems perfect for the earth as it is. The flaw is; you assume there was a design. You assume that either life or the earth is "designed" to suit the other. It would be more logical to say that the earth in the early stages was able to support life. Life began to develop and both adjusted to eachother. Not looking at humanity but at ecosystems. Plants being able to grow, provide nutrients for animals and animals die and return to the earth.
*facepalm* This is going to be a multi post. First of all you question where all elements (atoms) come from because they couldn't have been created by the big bang. False: Energy and matter are the same thing. Basically with enough energy it's theoretically possible to make ANY element. Think about nuclear power plants. By removing a part of the atom a completely differerent atom comes to be. Yes it radiates but it's different aswell.
yes the big bang is a big lie... obviously everything was made by god... yeah .... right, it's so obvious to me now that I've watched this moron :P
this guy tries to preach but seriously i would imagine him to turn Christians into atheists rather than convert anyone to his book of bullshit. the utter nonsense that spews from his mouth is laughable
You're crazy don't make any sense no the world for most of it's life was inhospitable. ... The human body is perfect for the earth.... eat some wild mushrooms, poison arrow frogs and raw meat tell me how great that human body works for ya. We aren't adapting because we aren't Darwinists and we adjust slowly because that is what evolution is you dumbass. Who said there were large changes in evolution? Lmao theory means it has been tested and has been proven a hypothesis is not known to be true.
Also, you call us liars?! You, sir, are dishonest. I watched the video you linked to that supposedly "debunked" Big Bang. Either you didn't watch the whole clip or you purposefully ignored the explanation they gave, both of which would have been very dishonest. Just after stating how the Big Bang couldn't have created heavier elements, the video goes on to explain stellar nucleosynthesis. And you have the gall to call us liars.
Furthermore, you have absolutely no concept of what a scientific theory is. All the time I hear, "it's just a theory." *facepalm* In science, a theory is the highest honor that an explanation can achieve. A theory is a cohesive explanation that explains a wide body of facts and phenomena, and is not refuted by one. If a fact contradicts a theory, the theory is either modified to account for the contradiction, or thrown out if proven incompatible with the contradiction.
People believe in evolution to separate themselves from god because they don't want to be held accountable? Um... aren't Christians the ones trying to escape accountability? All you do is pray to a god for forgiveness, and you're forgiven. If anything, the non-religious have MORE accountability than you, because they can't be magically forgiven by a sky daddy. The only thing Christians are accountable for is believing in god. Aside from that, you're completely forgiven by god for any sin.
2. The Earth is not a closed system, it receives energy from the sun, thus not susceptible to the entropy of thermodynamics 2nd law. Our solar system as a whole DOES experience entropy, in the form of the sun constantly losing mass and energy.
3. Earth isn't made for life, life is evolved for Earth.
4. Perfect body? We swallow down the same tube we breathe.
5. Tremendous changes take place over millions of years, not thousands.
u said "Perfect body? We swallow down the same tube we breathe", that's called optimization. why do u have two eyes instead of three or four, if u studied set theory and a bit sensors fusion, u'll know why. why not just the mouth right in the stomach. yep, human body is perfect realization and not in projected creativity that we think the body should be or ought to be.
Why is our backbone so much better designed for swimming like a fish than for walking upright like a human? Why are our limb bones so different to our spine? Why do humans get so much back trouble?
Study the Big Bang and the formation of the universe before you start trying to argue with a scientific point.
As others have said...don't forget FISSION. As Sagan said."We are all star stuff."
The Earth is a compilation of simple processes that makes something complex.
This planet was actually shaped by life to a HUGE extent, as well.
The reason Earth seems perfect for life is because life evolved here. It's very simple. And we ARE still adapting, it's just hard to see in small timespans.
You see small changes because you only live around 100 years. Humans from shared ancestor with Chimps is millions.
I agree that some people avoid Christianity to avoid accountability, but I have found Earthly reasons to uphold morality, such as mutual survival and happiness. The believer in me sees this as a testament of God's way. Evolution, built to the Glory of God by God.
Why make a painting when you can program a simulation and watch it unfold, and to see if it supports your way?
In science a theory is the closest thing to a LAW. So yes it is the big bang theory, but by saying it's a theory does nothing to discredit it in the realm of science.
Humans and the Earth in perfect harmony? Made for each other? It would seem to me that the Earth is trying to shake us off its back, like a flea on a dog....Earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, thunderstorms, snowstorms...I'm sure there are others examples of how 'perfect' this relationship is. Dude, please, get a clue and stop TRYING so hard to convince people with your weak conjectures. Please, you look foolish and uneducated. Just trying to help.
Also, I've heard discussions about the 'perfect balance of the universe' from many perspectives. And it is true, it is balanced seemingly specifically to hold everything together with the 4 known forces, with precision in fact. But really, 'it is what it is'.
From an objective and logical point of view as far as intelligent design is concerned...how does one create something so 'perfect', such as the universe, and then somehow manage to screw up so badly by creating humans? Amusement? Must be.
Heavier elements are formed when hydrogen and helium break down, when they are exhausted and nuclear fission stops within the star. This causes the fusion, the creation, of the heavier elements. At least science backs up its theories with PROOF. Where is yours? All you have is a suggestion...an idea...a concept. No proof.
I do respect your position, and think the 'idea of god' does good things for people who need it, and for others as well. But for those who have 'evolved' mentally, it's mute.
I think a lot about stuff, but I'm not sure if I'll ever lose God. It might be upbringing, or it might be intrinsic to my being.
See, I think to the part where the rules and physics of the universe pulled itself out of its own rear end or something. So maybe God did that. But where did God come from? Perhaps a place more elegant than physic's rectum, but....nothing. Imagine a nothing, then all of a sudden, the basic equivalent of Cogito Ergo sum, outta nowhere, and then this sum, summons others
How can you possibly say that we are "designed" for this planet?
Do you know that most of this planet is uninhabitable?
Humans are frail, pitiful animals on this planet when compared to other life forms. We are dominated by viruses and bacteria, our children are fragile and unable to survive on their own. Even other mammals, give birth to young that can start walking within minutes! Your argument cannot hold water
Put down the bible, and pick up a biology textbook.
yes, the big bang did not crate all the elements we see today, bet the foundation of the we bases in the large amounts of helium and hydrogen, all the rest of the periodic table is jest star dust, present because of the by-products of stars
iron is made out of the fundamental particle's, its just part of the array of possibility.
the complexity of the earth a long time ago was not so but more a hot mush. over this length of time the complexity has grown throw systematic affects i.e mantle convections, and atmospheric change, carbon dioxide to oxygen.. so on
look at chaos theory, you will get an idea.
something that now seem random and complex once was simple.
You ask why we don't see tremendous change, if evolution suggests it. The answer is that evolution, by its definition, takes place over many generations. for humans, these changes take many thousands or millions of years. evolution is clearly visible in life forms that have shorter generations. for example, diseases eventually develop resistance to drug treatments. if researchers didn't take into account the evolution of these diseases, many people would die from ineffective drugs.
Lol! Here it comes: Religion, as christianity is made up by guys like jesusfreek.. They don´t need proof, just make it up, and be ignorance .. soo it´s pretty pointless to unchristian a beliver with facts and awesome hard proofs.
BTW; humans aren´t a perfect designed species, we are weak and if I move u to the wild somewhere, there it isn´t a nearby MCdonalds, u will die pretty quickly. I also notice that u, as I got glasses.. ur Lord designed ur eyes pretty bad I guess ^^
Dude homo sapien sapien has already been around for like 10,000 years or less. It takes miilions of years to evolve. You need to research more your views hold no point. Why should I believe your views on christianity?
I'm not sure if you actually believe what your saying, or you think the world would be a better place if everyone believed what your saying! you seem a genuine guy, but lets take the old chestnut of the appendix, it's killed millions people through peritonitis, yet no one who has ever had their appendix removed has suffered any adverse reaction (save for poor surgery) and certainly no reduced immune system function, take your pick, evolution or very poor design?
His ignorance is dumbfounding...when scientists say theory, they mean a tried and tested concept that has been proven time and time again. A few other theories are Cell Theory and the Theory of Gravity. Are they just theories as well? Jezuzfreek777 just thrives in his ignorance of science that he could learn in a few high school science textbooks.
Believing in god makes believers feel more accountable?? How?? According to christian doctrine, those that believe in Jesus and accept them as their lord and savior are cleansed of their sins and are forgiven and all they have to do, according to their beliefs is ask for forgiveness and they will get it. That is not accountability, that's a cop out...basically a true believing christian can do anything they want and not be held accountable according to their beliefs!
He just refuses to accept that the earth formed naturally 4.5 billion years ago and that everything in nature as evolved to survive on this planet. And anyone who argues that the earth is situated in a small habitable band, that habitable zone stretches for thousands of miles closer to the sun to a little over halfway to Mars!!
Iron and Silicon and the other heavier elements are formed from nuclear fusion deep within stars after the the vast majority of the hydrogen in the star had already been converted to helium.
Perfect bodies? Sun resistant? Able to handle hot and cold? We can handle the sun because we have an atmosphere which blocks most harmful UV rays that would otherwise cause massive bouts of skin cancer. I'd like to see jezuzfreek777 survive a winter night in Minnesota in his birthday suit!
Just disregard wisdom teeth, your appendix, cancer (especially skin cancer), millions of children born with disabilities, those who need glasses, and you know... all that other stuff that completely disproves your uneducated stance that the human body is perfect.
If you can truly look at the Universe and say it's ordered and structured you're not looking hard enough.
I would also add that you have NO education in science whatsoever. Atheist don't believe in god(s) because thier is absolutely no evidence for it. We don't believe because we think. When I dropped my religion it was during a time that I really wanted to know the truth. We base everything else in the world on evidence (the existence of big foot) on evidence....WHY NOT RELIGION? You wouldn't believe in big foot unless you had evidence...right? OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE!
Ok, so you say that either were created perfectly for Earth or it was created for us....how else would we be in perfect harmony? Only moments later admit we adapt to a constant changing environment. That isn't perfection. Can't have it both ways. Oh and macro evolution is just those adaptations and mutations that are seen and do happen (micro evolution) over a long period of time. You can't get from one side of the room to the other without small steps.
secondly the big bang theory is far from obsolete, yes it has problems its about an event 14 billion years ago, so yes it will be erronous however it is adapted much like every scientific theory there has ever been, we will not have fact on this matter as no one was there
god is a theory, if you want adaptations, how about viruses that become immune to to antibiotics, and you stated yourself that you have seen proof of adaptations, and this is only over your lifetime which is very short in the grand scheme.
As far as adapting, we are adapting, and the reason you don't see huge change is because huge change takes millions of years. Besides that, the human race has adapted cultural evolution instead of genetic. We use culture to adapt to our environments most of the time, with less need for genetic evolution.
Also, people are becoming more adapted to life on Earth, take for example to cases of "extraordinary humans" on national geographic, such as the man who is able to withstand the cold of the antarctic wearing very little clothing compared to what the average human would be forced to wear in such circumstances.
evolution is a FACT that some people are to afraid of what god might think if they accept it is they'r problem i am not accountable to god becuz god doesnt exist..(i know a big shock for you) but that doesnt mean i'm not accountable for my actions. i am accountable toward my family my friends and to society. science doesnt suport creation in any way and if you have evidence that it does then please show me cuz then your the first one to find any.
humans like all animals dont change. only the offspring can change so if i( tall skinny and long limbs) move to a cold climate i will never be able to withstand the cold as much as eskimo's can becuz my morphology is set to tall and i will not shrink in a cold climate.. you want big changes? how about the fact that there is a bacteria that eats only nylon( something that does not accur in nature) did god poof it into being when we made nylon? or did it evolve to be better adapted?
i dont know anythign about the big bang but i do know that the human body isnt even close to perfect. waterproof? wrong sun resistant? to much sun can cause skin cancer. wrong. able to withstand the cold of winter? without fire or clothes or something else to keep us warm we do not survive well at all! wrong. evolution tell us exacly how we turned out to be the way we are. the earth doesnt complement us by far. ask those people in Pompei if they think the earth is wel designed.
we are still adapting to the plant but that procces is slowing down becuz humans tend to adapt there inviroment to themselves instead of the other way around. EVLUTION DOESNT NOT STOP AT HUMANS we are not a finisched product. evolution will never stop working as long as it has orgenismes to work with. we dont see big changes becuz they take way to much time to surface, humans don live long enought to see big changes in big orgenismes first hand
yeah i gotta agree with you there jeezuzfreek777. i know thats why i rejected god when i was a teenager. it had nothing to do with the lack of proof or feeling of the diving for 17 years. and the second i rejected the idea of god i bashed some poor fucks head in the for hell of it. when i got home later that night i killed my mother and the policemen that were there waiting for me. laughed the whole time i was doing it because i knew i found a mental loophole where i dont have to fear hell.
Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. But I will humor you and explain why the big bang is a very sensible explaination for the origin of the universe. Using the very same idea that is used to issue you a speeding ticket (the doppler effect) we observe the speed at which stellar bodies are moving with respect to earth. We find that the father away from the earth a body is the faster it is moving away from the earth. This is the exact dynamics of an explosion.
The human body is most definitely not perfect, not by a long shot. There is not tremendous change because humans, with our intelligence and ingenuity have managed to adapt our environments.
Read Genesis? Oh by all means I agree. I love the part where Plants were made BEFORE light. And light was made BEFORE the sun...and the moon is supposed to be a light as well but only during the night...even though you can see it in the day.
Right on up to the talking snake that walks it's a heck of a science book (sarcasm).
We're water proof? Tread water in the deep end of a pool for six hours and then see if you can make that claim.
Of course our planet is attuned for life...it has LIFE on it. If it wasn't we wouldn't be complaining about how unattuned it was now would we? 100,000,000 to the power 3 solar systems in our galaxy alone. There are bound to be more than a few planets that happen to have the right set of circumstances.
These are actually good questions - Earth is complex, but many of the materials needed for life are often only found in supernovas from large stars. Iron included. That means a) elements for life are common and permeable throughout the universe. Drake's equation is a wonderful example. b) People do indeed adapt, via technology. Our adaptation is invention and intelligence. It's been extremely successfully, and that itself has been evolving... Look at the explosion of civ. the last 10,000 years.
Jezusfreek You see its very simple this big bang occured 15 billion years ago and some how formed the element then gases formed stars and galaxies ultimatly living things and everyone lived happilly ever after, theres no need use logic or reasoning or even facts to examin this, as Eugenie Scott states the facts are not important its the theory that counts.and if theres anyone else whose compelled to beleive this please contact me there some arizona beach front property id like you see.
also quote 'why are we not still adapting to it why are we not seeing massive changes, we arn't we are seeing small changes we are seeing adaptations' you are a fucking moron you should at least use consistency in your lies
Non-scientist are not qualified to judge or comment on science as they do not understand it. This idea extends to most professions. As a scientist I do not make comments on dentistry or try to drill people's teeth as I am not a dentist. I do not try to manage people's taxes and accounts as I am not an accountant. I do not practice law as I am not a lawyer and have no expertise in law. When everyone thinks their comments are equal on every subject with out having expertise we have a problem.
jisaid08 3 weeks ago
dumb.
Aldelirium 3 months ago
if any of those atheist knew Physics , or chemistry they would know how stupid those theories were.
and when he said Perfect, he said for the most parts.
GoodyearBandit 3 months ago
@GoodyearBandit If he meant that, then why didn't he say that? They are two very different things.
EviscerationK 2 months ago
@GoodyearBandit Thats funny, considering that 99% of actual scientists support them, but you must know better.
seblasian 2 months ago
@seblasian yea, its funny how people are atheist.
GoodyearBandit 2 months ago
@GoodyearBandit Did I mention atheists? You must have the IQ of a peanut.
seblasian 2 months ago
@seblasian FATALITY
GoodyearBandit 2 months ago
haha. "why arent we still adapting? why havent we seen tremendious change?" HOLY SHIT, he knows nothing? really nothing about what hes trying to debate.. i fuckin hate retards, make me wanna cry
oaaserud 4 months ago
I have never understood this whole "perfectly adapted" concept.
Surely "adequately adapted" is closer to the mark.
stramster1 4 months ago
LOL... Jeszuzfreek, you ask how the elements were created since the big bang didn't create them, and post a link to a video telling you how?
Why would the 2nd law of thermodynamics apply to an open system?
You appear to be confusing acclimation with evolutionary change causing adaptation. The two are different subjects, with different rates of change. For evolutionary change, in my lifetime we have observed creation of new genetic information, ecological niches, structures, species, ...
JustAnotherMutant 4 months ago
so the answer is that it hasn't stopped.
The Christians who accept modern evolutionary theory show that your idea of people "believing in evolution" to deny your god is nonsense.
No "evolutionist" that I know of has proposed that life came from the big bang. The "big bang" also doesn't cover the creation of the universe.
You know, when you say "merely a theory", you are saying it's our best knowledge and as close to the truth as we can come at this time?
JustAnotherMutant 4 months ago
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As comedian Tim Minchin said:
"Which is true, I mean it is a theory [evolution], I mean it's good that they say that, it gives you hope doesn't it?, that maybe they feel the same way about the theory of, gravity, and they might just float the fuck away"
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KevsterJester42 4 months ago
Evolution is NOT Cosmology, Darwinism is NOT a religion, people who support evolution are NOT all atheists, 2nd law of thermodinamics applies ONLY to closed enviroments, not all humans are designed perfectly in the order you described it (i.e. skin cancer), morality DOESN'T come from religion, i.e. if there was no bibble would murder go unpunished, NO, it would be punished by man laws, in mortal time, your argument doesn't stand a chance if you don't believe in aftermath
KevsterJester42 4 months ago
I dont want to watch the rest of this vid, The title in its self is stupid enough. Big bang vs Evolution. These things dont verse eachother they are FACT!!!!!
Typho0n86 4 months ago
you seem to disregard stars , the elements were made in stars, the second law of thermodynamics is correct in a closed system , we have a sun.
you can't see evolution in a short time span
there is no scientific evidence for biblical creation , or any other creation mythology, so no bronze age writer got it right, expected.
scientific theories change with new evidence, the bible doesn't change , it's always wrong.
if you use the phrase "just a theory" you have no idea what theory means
tomerlivechen 4 months ago
@tomerlivechen Actually you can see Evolution over a short time, there is this ground in england that is poisened by some element, But there are new worms that have evolved to resist this element
Typho0n86 4 months ago
@Typho0n86
True, in his video he referred to human evolution. Which as a human you cannot see, but any Creature with a short enough life span it's evolution can be seen. I should have written "human evolution".
For instance bacteria have a life cycle of less than an hour, and in less the two days you can see evolution do to the selection substance you use.
tomerlivechen 4 months ago
00:03
"I want to talk to you guys about EVOLUTION and creation one more time"
00:08
"I see this video called 'Is the BIG BANG a bust?'"
I only have to watch 10 seconds of your video to know that you have no idea what you are talking about. It only takes 10 seconds to know that the video is not worth to watch.
Shyn0h 4 months ago
Shyn0h, it's a National Geographic video about the birth of the solar system, so watch away if you like. The main error it has is in the description, which implies that the big bang was at the solar system's birth.
JustAnotherMutant 4 months ago
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@JustAnotherMutant
I think I don't get your point... How is this a reply to my comment specifically?
Shyn0h 4 months ago
Shyn0h, my reply was regarding your comment about taking 10 seconds to realize it's not worth watching. Or did you mean Jezuzfreek's video, not the NG video Jezuzfreek was talking about? .
JustAnotherMutant 4 months ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Well ofc I was talking about Jezuzfreek his video :) My point was that he mistakenly links evolution to the big bang theory and that was clearly the case in the mere 10 first seconds of his video.
Shyn0h 4 months ago
Could you define what you mean by "Big changes"? You didn't really go anywhere with that... and besides, your point about scientists arguing is entirely invalid. When scientists argue, they win. They put forward their ideas and evidence and in the end either someone is convinced or both sides leave to collect more evidence. But when Christian denominations argue, they don't come to a conclusion at all. They just separate into Catholicism, Anglican, Baptists, etc and never deal with each other.
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@jezuzfreek777 . Science does not prove nor disprove god; It is content agnostic. The Big Bang did not "create" this universe. At the plank time, all of our knowledge does not apply. Evolution has nothing do with the Big Bang, but both are well documented scientific theory that has been verified by scientist all over the world. There is more evidence for evolution than their is for gravity.
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kenster1 4 months ago
were they simple animals? In your visions animals evolve, or not? If you are indeed right and Jesus is the son of God and walked the Earth, then he could not explain evolution to some ancient superstitious people and he invented the story about the Adam and Eve to make them understand that they are different from animals and should run the world... Keep some logic in religion and it will still be powerful, but hold on irrational statements and it'll slowly fade away in history!
Vict0r1984 5 months ago
believe in a God who created the Universe and eventually life, but I think that once matter and life was created, evolution continued the process. Science has no real explanation for why and how the Big Bang happened, so it can't deny the possibility that a superior being forged it, but ask yourself why do we find frozen primitive humans if you think we were created from dirt? Why does Australopithecus exist? Why does Pithecanthropus Erectus exist? They were all created from dirt separately? Or
Vict0r1984 5 months ago
change" and adaptation to dramatic climate changes takes millions of years, and while our civilization is only 10000 years old, it will probably destroy itself in atomic wars a couple of times before we get some "Tremendous changes"... Really, how much logic do you need to figure out that evolution is a long process and can't be noticed in the present time? Why do you think some species died in ice ages? Adaptation is achieved only in generations...
I'm not an atheist, I'm a secular deist, so I
Vict0r1984 5 months ago
"Why aren't we adapting to it (the environment) anymore? Why aren't we seeing tremendous change?" You are kidding me, right? It is NOT possible that this words actually came out of your month... Did they??? Look, the evolution of species takes MILLIONS OF YEARS, and the fact that some dinosaur species (like the Archeopteryx for example) became birds after 50 million years of evolution doesn't mean that back in the Cretaceous period you could see a T-Rex evolving feather over night... "Tremendous
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FreeportHometown 5 months ago
Isn't that what evolution is? Small changes over time until the animal is no longer what it once was. I figure that since we no extinction exists that we would assume that like all systems there would be an opposite end of that spectrum (evolution, new species) How dare people want to remove something they can't see taste touch feel or comprehend from their lives. Are you aware that scientist may soon be finding how to get living matter from nonliving?
roottruthseeker 6 months ago
@roottruthseeker i've never seen proof this has happened. show me proof.
AnthonyRF1996 5 months ago
budy your so dumb were not water proof i cant believe how stupid u are i could go on but i wont
BrettBloomfield1 8 months ago
LMAO @ thinking National Geographic is scientifically credible.
mymatryoshka 9 months ago
AGH! You said too many stuff!
We adapted to the environment and we're still adapting to it, but it happens too slowly to notice it.
You clearly don't know how evolution or adaptation works.
The way adaptation works is through natural selection (i.e., survival of the fittest) and small mutations. The animals best fit to survive their environment live to reproduce, making the next generation similar to the survivors. And this continues on along with the changing environment.
xXFlockofGriffinsXx 10 months ago
Atheist are under the impression that science have 95% of the universe figured out and only 5% is unknown, when in reality it's the other way around, we only have 5% of the universe figured out and 95% is still unknown.
HolyRevelation 10 months ago
@HolyRevelation I'm unaware of this claim. Where did you see it?
mymatryoshka 9 months ago
@mymatryoshka On the history channel the other day, an Atheist cosmologist stated that the visible, known universe, is only 5% of the whole universe. 95% of the universe is made up of invisible, dark matter and energy. There are tremendous technological advancements made in technology every week but contrary to what Atheists think, science has not advanced forward at the rate technology has.
Ezekiel 13:3
Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
HolyRevelation 9 months ago
@HolyRevelation new technology is the result of advances in science. technological advancement can't come without scientific advancement. technology does not advance faster than science does. if it did, new technology would pointless, worthless, usless, and probably very dangerous.
epicfails614 8 months ago
@HolyRevelation Ok, now you're just lying about atheists.
komikkepanoenavn 8 months ago
The Earth did not start out near this complex and "formed" when it was first formed it was just a mass of different elements. Its "form" came about from millions of years.
bleachawsome 10 months ago
naturally, when a nucleus with one or two protons joins another nucleus also with one or two protons, the result would be a nucleus with either 2, 3 or 4 protons, aka helium, lithium, beryllium, two of which weren't created by the big bang. from there, more fusion happened and, as a result, more new elements with higher atomic numbers.
epicfails614 11 months ago
evolution is based on genetic changes. a person adjusting to a warm or cold climate after a move isn't a genetic change. it's probably a strengthening of the immune system, which is probably an ability that humans developed as a result of genetic changes.
and the elements that weren't created by the big bang were created by nuclear fusion in stars made of the elements that were created by the big bang. their nuclei were fused because they were so close to each other (stars a very dense) and,
epicfails614 11 months ago
We are not waterpoof thats why your fingers get the way they get when ou go in the wtaer, we are not perfect at all. EG the eye nerves pass in front of the retina before going to the brain, we share the same entrance for food and air, which can make us choke, other animals can't choke... why would god do that to us? We fall on our arms but our arms bones are really weak, I know it by experience... Our body has loads of problems, thats why we don't all live 120 years or more. NOW GO READ A BOOK!
MrDubidubidubidu 11 months ago
2nd law of thermal dynamics says that things become more chaotic in a CLOSED SYSTEM. earth is not a closed system.
ZOIDGARTH 11 months ago
dude the earth or we were not created for it . in earth more than 99.83 % of it we cant live on . if we go to high we cant breath if we goto low the earths heat will kill us we were not made for it and all u say is bullshit scientist have facts creationist just put god in all the thibgs they cant understand so they wont feel lost
MrCoolsteven 11 months ago
this guys a douche bag, rlly he gave examples of situational adaptives, evolution is change as the situation changes, making us adapt over long periods of time into total different type of same species
zankersful 1 year ago
If you talk about "perfect for earth" then how do you explain the Peruvians in the Andes who live at 13,000 feet (an altitude where others suffer from hypoxia) and have no ill effects because their bodies have evolved through their ancestors living there for over 2500 years?
Their sub group evovled to survive there.
Jammsbro1 1 year ago
Your not qualified to speak about the big bang and the products it may have formed.
ChiralKigit 1 year ago
There's no rhyme or reason?? I'm really about to punch you in the face during this video. you have barely any scientific background, and this is obvious. Evolution takes place over millions of years, and the human body is not perfect by any means. EVER HEARD OF DISEASE? Nothing is perfect, everything is relative.
Btw: Big Bang THEORY! It's always been a theory!! U retardddd
AzarathHanyou 1 year ago 2
you fucktard the second law of thermodynamics only applies to a closed system, WE DONT EXIST IN A CLOSED SYSTEM!!!
evolution take thousands of years to make any real change.
so far the only god that could exist is one that created a big bang and let everything go on its own from that.
if MJ saw you he would point and say "thats ignorant"
kezthepieman13 1 year ago 3
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"you see when you believe in god" YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING DICKHEAD.
thedominator1991 1 year ago
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thedominator1991 1 year ago
HUMANS ARE PERFECT? RESISTANT TO THE SUN? EVER HEARD OF SKIN CANCER? RESISTANT TO THE HEAT AND THE COLD? EVER SAT IN A DESERT FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES? EVERY GONE NAKED IN ANTARCTICA? OOO MYYY FUKING
thedominator1991 1 year ago 7
watch all of thunderf00ts videos if you think after that that the bible is correct and creationists are then you should probably kill yourself and support the natural selection of killing off all the dumbest cunts in the world
thedominator1991 1 year ago
WHY DO SOME SPECIES DIE OFF? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH SUFFERING ON THE EARTH IF GOD 'CREATED' EVERYTHING? ARE YOU SAYING GOD IS A CUNT? HE MUST BE BECAUSE THIS WORLD IS NOT 'PERFECT' LIKE MOST YOU RICH CHRISTIAN CUNTS THINK BECAUSE YOU HAVE HAPPY AND EASY LIVES. THE MAJORITY OF HUMAN BEINGS LIVE ON 2 DOLLARS A DAY AND ARE HUNGRY AND SICK 24/7. WHY DID HE MAKE THE DINOSAURS? HUMANS DON'T LIVE WITH THEM SO WHY WOULD HE BOTHER MAKING THEM FIRST? EVERYTHING GOES AGAINST THE BIBLE.. OH MY FUCKING GOD
thedominator1991 1 year ago
hahaha omfg!!! what a dumb cunt
we dont see humans adapt
omfg
thats because our time scale is fucking so small
go back millions of years and natural selection selected us
thats why we are strong in our enviironment
and why is there cancer and disease then? we're not perfect
omfg what a dumb cunt ahahha .. science is right.. the bible is a bunch of fucking BULL FUCKING SHIT you DUMB CUNT FUCKIN HELL IM SHAKING WITH RAGE LOLOLOL FUCKING FUCK..
thedominator1991 1 year ago 3
also Silica is NOT an element. it is a compound!
The "materials" come from nuclear fusion of elements. The fusion of elements up to iron are all exothermic reactions (produce heat). iron forms producing No heat and builds up in the center of the star which cools it. the heavier elements form in nuclear fusion during a supernova.
you are a fucking idiot!
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firstly i dont understand why you refer to the bible as being the "truth". how deluded are you??? secondly the big bang theory has never been considered a fact, it has always been a theory. And why are you so quick to condemn a theory that cant be proven?? you obviously believe in a false god....where is the proof there? not being able to observe evolution makes no sense and there have been comments relating to this already posted.
thedominator1991 1 year ago
firstly i dont understand why you refer to the bible as being the "truth". how deluded are you??? secondly the big bang theory has never been considered a fact, it has always been a theory. And why are you so quick to condemn a theory that cant be proven?? you obviously believe in a false god....where is the proof there? not being able to observe evolution makes no sense and there have been comments relating to this already posted.
thedominator1991 1 year ago
oh we don't know how. therefor zeus is real god and christ sucks anyway! why zeus? why not?
insanewarlock666 1 year ago
Evolution happens over a VERY LARGE PERIOD OF TIME.
We see transitional fossils. That's evidence for large changes.
You, sir, are crazy.
TheVVanderingStar 1 year ago
"Those elements could not have come from the Big Bang." -- Sez who?
"All we see is minor adaptations, not large ones." -- And how long have we been observing evolution? Couple hundred years, max? And how long do large scale changes take? Tens if not hundreds of thousands if not millions of years?
DonutDazzler 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!! If you find someone who needs batting practice with creationist ideas, show them this video, even a someone with a high school science education will hit a home run every time!
jofoatminn 1 year ago 7
Have you ever read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? Maybe that will answer your questions.
CHAOSoriginal 1 year ago
This is why the big bang is still a theory.
There are several other theories that all have validity regarding the creation of the universe.
Also, the second law of thermodynamics refers to a closed system, which the earth is not.
We are constantly adapting, you said it yourself.
Anyway, due to recent changes in humanity *namely the invention of...well everything* human's adaptation skills as a species can go anywhere...
lifescomicrelief 1 year ago
believing in jesus is the easy way out, it requires no thought. You have a book to tell you what to do. "When you have priests or any other creed of man you can forgive sins you will have sin in abundance." Thomas Paine
mzyzer19 1 year ago
Evolution has NOTHING to do with the Big Bang. The Big Bang is COSMOLOGY not EVOLUTION!
The planet formed vastly different from the way we see it today. How the earth has changed over time is allso NOT Evolution!
The human body seems perfect? Are you serious?
The human eye has a blind spot. Are blind spots perfect?
There are over 4000 deformities in the human body which no doubt you will claim come from a SIN bullshit. however we have NO EVIDENCE that the human body was ever Prefect
Godless4life 1 year ago 3
"The scientific community that argues" It argues to find the truth. If the truth is not clear, what is wrong with debating the possibilities?
The problem with you is that you think the bible is completely true, and wont question it for a second. You even say you don't need evidence.
TheWordsNotSpoken 1 year ago
"they say the big bang created this universe" No the big bang is the first thing we can know in the universe because before it the laws of physics don't apply. The universe could infinity repeat or go on for infinity, we just don't know. But the evidence does not support "god did it".
"Merely a theory" Like theory of gravity, cell theory, atomic theory, germ theory. A theory is supported by all the facts and rejected by none, doesn't it say something that all 99% of scientists agree with me?
TheWordsNotSpoken 1 year ago
"we don't see this in the animal kingdom" Nylon eating bacteria (achromobacter guttatus)
"(judge evolutionists saying they are trying to escape accountability)" I could never worship a god who endorses rape, slavery, homicide, genocide, homophobia and bigotry. If i had a choice i would rather go to hell, good thing it doesn't exist! I am accountable, I'm accountable to myself. Whatever i do i have to live with it for the rest of my life, i don't need a god to be moral.
TheWordsNotSpoken 1 year ago
"Either we were designed to fit the earth or the earth was designed to fit us"
That is a false dichotomy, once life starts on earth it would evolve through natural selection to fit it's environment.
"why aren't we still adapting" We are, it's so gradual it's nearly impossible to notice. Kinda like the curvature of the earth.
"(climate Metaphor)" That is not how evolution works. It's changes over successive generations. The physical changes of one person aren't passed down, just genetic ones.
TheWordsNotSpoken 1 year ago
I got this question to ask, why would scientist lie? Christians have a good reason to say why their theory is the best even tho there are theories/facts that are much better, they think they are going to hell if they don't think the Bible is correct. Scientist or atheists don't have anything like that, they are looking for the best possible theory, if the God theory was the best, there'd not be any atheists, it's not like atheism or science is rebeling against God.
EliasJordan3 1 year ago
Are you a fucking dickhead? ALL elements come from energy. Infact, ELEMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY STATES OF ENERGY. The essential components of ALL elements are IDENTICAL, they just have different numbers of electrons. You are not a scientist. You do NOT have a scientific education, so shut the fuck up and go back to bible school you idiot. Stop thinking that you can correct science when you barely understand it yourself.
TheNemestrinus 1 year ago
I used to be christian, now I have realised it doesn't make sense. I don't understand why people waste there time pretending they already know how and why everything works instead of accepting that the universe is far too vast to comprehend and everyone should just try to enjoy the life-span that they exsist within it.
Brakinator 1 year ago
damn, you really need an education
blazereef 1 year ago
if god was real he jewed you out of a brain idiot
spezzasucksballs 1 year ago
Evolution takes millions of years. Scientists reckon that in millions of years our small toe will be gone.
IrishGodThe4th 1 year ago
If we were able to perfectly complement the earth then why are there so many natural hazards that can still kill us like, tsunamis, earthquakes, tornados, ice, desert, drowning in large bodies of water, pyroclastic flows. if the earth complements us then again, why is it able to kill us and injure us so easily?
wintersnowolves 1 year ago
Our bodies are waterproof? People drown all the time. We're so well adapted to the Earth because this is where we come from. We are a product of our environment, not the other way around.
mymatryoshka 1 year ago
Fair enough that you find peace in the religion sir jezuzfreek777, but do you really have to make a fool out of yourself to YouTube? :) You seem pretty ignorant to everything else than mister G and Jesus. I find it a bit creepy that you live by a lil' book so strictly :) If I come up with a statement here, some douchebag will go like "GOD MADE IT THAT WAY" - You always seem to find a way to lead stuff back to 'God'. Oh btw- Today you say: GOD PWNS - Tomorrow you might wonder: Who created God?
HornyMuffinGuy 1 year ago
1: They evolved. Stars covert simpler smalelr atoms into larger more complex elements all the time.
2: The earth is not a closed system.
3: We evovled to match the earth. Natural selection adapt beings for survival. And natural selection works slowly, yes. Besides, do you know how many planets there are in the visible universe? One like the earth is bound to have existed.
4: You claim there is science to support theism. Please explain, don't just claim you can. Your bible is just a book.
HaveFaithInScience 1 year ago
3rd post: You are not held accountable if you don't believe in god? That's a pretty minimalistic point of view. You live in a community, you are being held accountable for your actions by the rest of humanity. You don't need a deity or god for that.
What you are saying is that without faith/belief in god we are barbaric, ignorant and selfish.
Your "logic" is nothing but saying; "I'm right because I am and you're wrong because I say so." Try to make some valid arguments next time.
deathlygaze 1 year ago
2nd post: The human body seems perfect for the earth as it is. The flaw is; you assume there was a design. You assume that either life or the earth is "designed" to suit the other. It would be more logical to say that the earth in the early stages was able to support life. Life began to develop and both adjusted to eachother. Not looking at humanity but at ecosystems. Plants being able to grow, provide nutrients for animals and animals die and return to the earth.
deathlygaze 1 year ago
*facepalm* This is going to be a multi post. First of all you question where all elements (atoms) come from because they couldn't have been created by the big bang. False: Energy and matter are the same thing. Basically with enough energy it's theoretically possible to make ANY element. Think about nuclear power plants. By removing a part of the atom a completely differerent atom comes to be. Yes it radiates but it's different aswell.
deathlygaze 1 year ago
yes the big bang is a big lie... obviously everything was made by god... yeah .... right, it's so obvious to me now that I've watched this moron :P
this guy tries to preach but seriously i would imagine him to turn Christians into atheists rather than convert anyone to his book of bullshit. the utter nonsense that spews from his mouth is laughable
ezelje 1 year ago
The title of the video is a good measurement for the logic of its content
cerealk53 1 year ago
You're crazy don't make any sense no the world for most of it's life was inhospitable. ... The human body is perfect for the earth.... eat some wild mushrooms, poison arrow frogs and raw meat tell me how great that human body works for ya. We aren't adapting because we aren't Darwinists and we adjust slowly because that is what evolution is you dumbass. Who said there were large changes in evolution? Lmao theory means it has been tested and has been proven a hypothesis is not known to be true.
Rainmaker88 1 year ago
Also, you call us liars?! You, sir, are dishonest. I watched the video you linked to that supposedly "debunked" Big Bang. Either you didn't watch the whole clip or you purposefully ignored the explanation they gave, both of which would have been very dishonest. Just after stating how the Big Bang couldn't have created heavier elements, the video goes on to explain stellar nucleosynthesis. And you have the gall to call us liars.
Aralithe 1 year ago
Furthermore, you have absolutely no concept of what a scientific theory is. All the time I hear, "it's just a theory." *facepalm* In science, a theory is the highest honor that an explanation can achieve. A theory is a cohesive explanation that explains a wide body of facts and phenomena, and is not refuted by one. If a fact contradicts a theory, the theory is either modified to account for the contradiction, or thrown out if proven incompatible with the contradiction.
Aralithe 1 year ago
People believe in evolution to separate themselves from god because they don't want to be held accountable? Um... aren't Christians the ones trying to escape accountability? All you do is pray to a god for forgiveness, and you're forgiven. If anything, the non-religious have MORE accountability than you, because they can't be magically forgiven by a sky daddy. The only thing Christians are accountable for is believing in god. Aside from that, you're completely forgiven by god for any sin.
Aralithe 1 year ago
Your questions in order:
1. Two words: stellar nucleosynthesis.
2. The Earth is not a closed system, it receives energy from the sun, thus not susceptible to the entropy of thermodynamics 2nd law. Our solar system as a whole DOES experience entropy, in the form of the sun constantly losing mass and energy.
3. Earth isn't made for life, life is evolved for Earth.
4. Perfect body? We swallow down the same tube we breathe.
5. Tremendous changes take place over millions of years, not thousands.
Aralithe 1 year ago
@Aralithe
u said "Perfect body? We swallow down the same tube we breathe", that's called optimization. why do u have two eyes instead of three or four, if u studied set theory and a bit sensors fusion, u'll know why. why not just the mouth right in the stomach. yep, human body is perfect realization and not in projected creativity that we think the body should be or ought to be.
warrior4just 3 months ago
Why is our backbone so much better designed for swimming like a fish than for walking upright like a human? Why are our limb bones so different to our spine? Why do humans get so much back trouble?
thymefromti 1 year ago
Study the Big Bang and the formation of the universe before you start trying to argue with a scientific point.
As others have said...don't forget FISSION. As Sagan said."We are all star stuff."
The Earth is a compilation of simple processes that makes something complex.
This planet was actually shaped by life to a HUGE extent, as well.
The reason Earth seems perfect for life is because life evolved here. It's very simple. And we ARE still adapting, it's just hard to see in small timespans.
KazigluTepes 1 year ago
I just noticed. I mean fusion*
KazigluTepes 1 year ago
You see small changes because you only live around 100 years. Humans from shared ancestor with Chimps is millions.
I agree that some people avoid Christianity to avoid accountability, but I have found Earthly reasons to uphold morality, such as mutual survival and happiness. The believer in me sees this as a testament of God's way. Evolution, built to the Glory of God by God.
Why make a painting when you can program a simulation and watch it unfold, and to see if it supports your way?
MacGyverinSpace 1 year ago
In science a theory is the closest thing to a LAW. So yes it is the big bang theory, but by saying it's a theory does nothing to discredit it in the realm of science.
Panabag 1 year ago
Humans and the Earth in perfect harmony? Made for each other? It would seem to me that the Earth is trying to shake us off its back, like a flea on a dog....Earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, thunderstorms, snowstorms...I'm sure there are others examples of how 'perfect' this relationship is. Dude, please, get a clue and stop TRYING so hard to convince people with your weak conjectures. Please, you look foolish and uneducated. Just trying to help.
fabianscorpio 1 year ago
Also, I've heard discussions about the 'perfect balance of the universe' from many perspectives. And it is true, it is balanced seemingly specifically to hold everything together with the 4 known forces, with precision in fact. But really, 'it is what it is'.
From an objective and logical point of view as far as intelligent design is concerned...how does one create something so 'perfect', such as the universe, and then somehow manage to screw up so badly by creating humans? Amusement? Must be.
fabianscorpio 1 year ago
Heavier elements are formed when hydrogen and helium break down, when they are exhausted and nuclear fission stops within the star. This causes the fusion, the creation, of the heavier elements. At least science backs up its theories with PROOF. Where is yours? All you have is a suggestion...an idea...a concept. No proof.
I do respect your position, and think the 'idea of god' does good things for people who need it, and for others as well. But for those who have 'evolved' mentally, it's mute.
fabianscorpio 1 year ago
I think a lot about stuff, but I'm not sure if I'll ever lose God. It might be upbringing, or it might be intrinsic to my being.
See, I think to the part where the rules and physics of the universe pulled itself out of its own rear end or something. So maybe God did that. But where did God come from? Perhaps a place more elegant than physic's rectum, but....nothing. Imagine a nothing, then all of a sudden, the basic equivalent of Cogito Ergo sum, outta nowhere, and then this sum, summons others
MacGyverinSpace 1 year ago
JesuzFreak777
i don't know where matter came from, but i know that you're a waste of it
TheCrocoduck 2 years ago
This is to JesuzFreak777
How can you possibly say that we are "designed" for this planet?
Do you know that most of this planet is uninhabitable?
Humans are frail, pitiful animals on this planet when compared to other life forms. We are dominated by viruses and bacteria, our children are fragile and unable to survive on their own. Even other mammals, give birth to young that can start walking within minutes! Your argument cannot hold water
Put down the bible, and pick up a biology textbook.
igotsachubby 2 years ago
yes, the big bang did not crate all the elements we see today, bet the foundation of the we bases in the large amounts of helium and hydrogen, all the rest of the periodic table is jest star dust, present because of the by-products of stars
T0ddNewent 2 years ago
it does not work like that.
I now it just your points and views but.
iron is made out of the fundamental particle's, its just part of the array of possibility.
the complexity of the earth a long time ago was not so but more a hot mush. over this length of time the complexity has grown throw systematic affects i.e mantle convections, and atmospheric change, carbon dioxide to oxygen.. so on
look at chaos theory, you will get an idea.
something that now seem random and complex once was simple.
T0ddNewent 2 years ago
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T0ddNewent 2 years ago
People don't evolve, species do.
Evolution has nothing to do with god, it is science so does not use the supernatural.
From a bibilcal point of view, your opinions suck Jez
gregrutz 2 years ago
You are either purposefully not willing to examine the facts or just simply do not have the mental capacity to do so.
dinorumble 2 years ago 20
You ask why we don't see tremendous change, if evolution suggests it. The answer is that evolution, by its definition, takes place over many generations. for humans, these changes take many thousands or millions of years. evolution is clearly visible in life forms that have shorter generations. for example, diseases eventually develop resistance to drug treatments. if researchers didn't take into account the evolution of these diseases, many people would die from ineffective drugs.
celloplower 2 years ago
elements up to iron can be formed from exothermic fusion inside stars during their natural lifetime.
elements heavier than iron are produced by fusion during supernovae
btw, silica is not an element. silica is silicon dioxide, a compound
celloplower 2 years ago 22
"Where did people come from?" Said one man
"Hmm... monkeys!" Said another
and so, the theory of evolution was born
ApplesAreLethal 2 years ago
My god, someone more ignorant on evolution than Raymond Comfort.
InLucidReverie 2 years ago 4
The very video you linked, did explain the reason for iron silicon and ect.
MrSikzak 2 years ago
what's the big bang got to do with evolution?
qwerty123383 2 years ago 2
Jezuzfreek777 = ignorant prick
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago 4
Lol! Here it comes: Religion, as christianity is made up by guys like jesusfreek.. They don´t need proof, just make it up, and be ignorance .. soo it´s pretty pointless to unchristian a beliver with facts and awesome hard proofs.
BTW; humans aren´t a perfect designed species, we are weak and if I move u to the wild somewhere, there it isn´t a nearby MCdonalds, u will die pretty quickly. I also notice that u, as I got glasses.. ur Lord designed ur eyes pretty bad I guess ^^
pimpmasteryeahman 2 years ago
jf777...that was really, really stupid.
chuckfaststrat 2 years ago 2
Dude homo sapien sapien has already been around for like 10,000 years or less. It takes miilions of years to evolve. You need to research more your views hold no point. Why should I believe your views on christianity?
Blackswordsman6 2 years ago
DUDE!! stick a dick in your mouth and end your annoying clouded comments and misguided thoughts. your welcome.
creedbonivard 2 years ago
The big bang is being recreated in the most expensive science experiment ever by the world's top scientists.
I won't bitch on further, you are not intelligent enough to believe in something plausible.
I just can't wait for this experiment to be completed so you fucking Christians will shut the fuck up.
At least this experiment will prove Christianity is bull and destroy the most annoying religion.
andord123 2 years ago
Humans perfect design hmm smallpox appendix
GodMarley666 2 years ago
I'm not sure if you actually believe what your saying, or you think the world would be a better place if everyone believed what your saying! you seem a genuine guy, but lets take the old chestnut of the appendix, it's killed millions people through peritonitis, yet no one who has ever had their appendix removed has suffered any adverse reaction (save for poor surgery) and certainly no reduced immune system function, take your pick, evolution or very poor design?
TheJarredJammer 2 years ago
The sheer amount of ignorance I just witnessed is DUMBFOUNDING.
phatboy100 2 years ago
1/5 this guy is an ignorant dumbass...
hes also very ugly.
cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago
His ignorance is dumbfounding...when scientists say theory, they mean a tried and tested concept that has been proven time and time again. A few other theories are Cell Theory and the Theory of Gravity. Are they just theories as well? Jezuzfreek777 just thrives in his ignorance of science that he could learn in a few high school science textbooks.
tsrox20 2 years ago
Believing in god makes believers feel more accountable?? How?? According to christian doctrine, those that believe in Jesus and accept them as their lord and savior are cleansed of their sins and are forgiven and all they have to do, according to their beliefs is ask for forgiveness and they will get it. That is not accountability, that's a cop out...basically a true believing christian can do anything they want and not be held accountable according to their beliefs!
tsrox20 2 years ago
He just refuses to accept that the earth formed naturally 4.5 billion years ago and that everything in nature as evolved to survive on this planet. And anyone who argues that the earth is situated in a small habitable band, that habitable zone stretches for thousands of miles closer to the sun to a little over halfway to Mars!!
tsrox20 2 years ago
Iron and Silicon and the other heavier elements are formed from nuclear fusion deep within stars after the the vast majority of the hydrogen in the star had already been converted to helium.
Perfect bodies? Sun resistant? Able to handle hot and cold? We can handle the sun because we have an atmosphere which blocks most harmful UV rays that would otherwise cause massive bouts of skin cancer. I'd like to see jezuzfreek777 survive a winter night in Minnesota in his birthday suit!
tsrox20 2 years ago
Our bodies are totally perfect! Great point!
Just disregard wisdom teeth, your appendix, cancer (especially skin cancer), millions of children born with disabilities, those who need glasses, and you know... all that other stuff that completely disproves your uneducated stance that the human body is perfect.
If you can truly look at the Universe and say it's ordered and structured you're not looking hard enough.
hobokombat 2 years ago
I would also add that you have NO education in science whatsoever. Atheist don't believe in god(s) because thier is absolutely no evidence for it. We don't believe because we think. When I dropped my religion it was during a time that I really wanted to know the truth. We base everything else in the world on evidence (the existence of big foot) on evidence....WHY NOT RELIGION? You wouldn't believe in big foot unless you had evidence...right? OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE!
rsxfreak03 2 years ago
Ok, so you say that either were created perfectly for Earth or it was created for us....how else would we be in perfect harmony? Only moments later admit we adapt to a constant changing environment. That isn't perfection. Can't have it both ways. Oh and macro evolution is just those adaptations and mutations that are seen and do happen (micro evolution) over a long period of time. You can't get from one side of the room to the other without small steps.
rsxfreak03 2 years ago
thats how the world works isnt it?
jmbjmbjmbjmbjmb 2 years ago
secondly the big bang theory is far from obsolete, yes it has problems its about an event 14 billion years ago, so yes it will be erronous however it is adapted much like every scientific theory there has ever been, we will not have fact on this matter as no one was there
jmbjmbjmbjmbjmb 2 years ago
god is a theory, if you want adaptations, how about viruses that become immune to to antibiotics, and you stated yourself that you have seen proof of adaptations, and this is only over your lifetime which is very short in the grand scheme.
jmbjmbjmbjmbjmb 2 years ago
arguments from ignorance and personal incregulity.
holymoose69 2 years ago
As far as adapting, we are adapting, and the reason you don't see huge change is because huge change takes millions of years. Besides that, the human race has adapted cultural evolution instead of genetic. We use culture to adapt to our environments most of the time, with less need for genetic evolution.
moose5495 2 years ago
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newen85 2 years ago
please Freek get an education on cosmology
if the big bang is a bust that doesn's do anything to evolution theory
evolution still works even if the universe was created
soepvorkje 2 years ago 2
Also, people are becoming more adapted to life on Earth, take for example to cases of "extraordinary humans" on national geographic, such as the man who is able to withstand the cold of the antarctic wearing very little clothing compared to what the average human would be forced to wear in such circumstances.
MandolinGuy530 2 years ago
We adapted to live on Earth, that's natural selection and evolution
MandolinGuy530 2 years ago
jezuzfreek777, read the theory of natural selection, because you do not seem to understand the main of evolution
nhmllr725 2 years ago
evolution is a FACT that some people are to afraid of what god might think if they accept it is they'r problem i am not accountable to god becuz god doesnt exist..(i know a big shock for you) but that doesnt mean i'm not accountable for my actions. i am accountable toward my family my friends and to society. science doesnt suport creation in any way and if you have evidence that it does then please show me cuz then your the first one to find any.
AllenQuatermain2de 2 years ago
humans like all animals dont change. only the offspring can change so if i( tall skinny and long limbs) move to a cold climate i will never be able to withstand the cold as much as eskimo's can becuz my morphology is set to tall and i will not shrink in a cold climate.. you want big changes? how about the fact that there is a bacteria that eats only nylon( something that does not accur in nature) did god poof it into being when we made nylon? or did it evolve to be better adapted?
AllenQuatermain2de 2 years ago
i dont know anythign about the big bang but i do know that the human body isnt even close to perfect. waterproof? wrong sun resistant? to much sun can cause skin cancer. wrong. able to withstand the cold of winter? without fire or clothes or something else to keep us warm we do not survive well at all! wrong. evolution tell us exacly how we turned out to be the way we are. the earth doesnt complement us by far. ask those people in Pompei if they think the earth is wel designed.
AllenQuatermain2de 2 years ago
we are still adapting to the plant but that procces is slowing down becuz humans tend to adapt there inviroment to themselves instead of the other way around. EVLUTION DOESNT NOT STOP AT HUMANS we are not a finisched product. evolution will never stop working as long as it has orgenismes to work with. we dont see big changes becuz they take way to much time to surface, humans don live long enought to see big changes in big orgenismes first hand
AllenQuatermain2de 2 years ago
"not proven and nearly unprovable" just like your god? care to worm out of that you fuckin hypicric?
itsuyo211 2 years ago
yeah i gotta agree with you there jeezuzfreek777. i know thats why i rejected god when i was a teenager. it had nothing to do with the lack of proof or feeling of the diving for 17 years. and the second i rejected the idea of god i bashed some poor fucks head in the for hell of it. when i got home later that night i killed my mother and the policemen that were there waiting for me. laughed the whole time i was doing it because i knew i found a mental loophole where i dont have to fear hell.
itsuyo211 2 years ago
this guy is a nut job.
anselmo666666 2 years ago
Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. But I will humor you and explain why the big bang is a very sensible explaination for the origin of the universe. Using the very same idea that is used to issue you a speeding ticket (the doppler effect) we observe the speed at which stellar bodies are moving with respect to earth. We find that the father away from the earth a body is the faster it is moving away from the earth. This is the exact dynamics of an explosion.
dlhitch2007 2 years ago
The human body is most definitely not perfect, not by a long shot. There is not tremendous change because humans, with our intelligence and ingenuity have managed to adapt our environments.
yaysprinkledirt17 2 years ago
lol di this guy watch that vid cos it actually explains it briefly
ajgrovery 2 years ago
Read Genesis? Oh by all means I agree. I love the part where Plants were made BEFORE light. And light was made BEFORE the sun...and the moon is supposed to be a light as well but only during the night...even though you can see it in the day.
Right on up to the talking snake that walks it's a heck of a science book (sarcasm).
VeritasLiber 2 years ago
Why would an Evolutionist propose something about the Big Bang? That's Cosmology, not biology. It's a false statement by default.
"Merely a Theory"...You really don't know what the definition is of a scientific theory do you?
And 'No' ... no you don;t 'cause if you did you wouldn't have made that mistake unless you were purposefully trying to be misleading..
VeritasLiber 2 years ago
We're water proof? Tread water in the deep end of a pool for six hours and then see if you can make that claim.
Of course our planet is attuned for life...it has LIFE on it. If it wasn't we wouldn't be complaining about how unattuned it was now would we? 100,000,000 to the power 3 solar systems in our galaxy alone. There are bound to be more than a few planets that happen to have the right set of circumstances.
VeritasLiber 2 years ago
These are actually good questions - Earth is complex, but many of the materials needed for life are often only found in supernovas from large stars. Iron included. That means a) elements for life are common and permeable throughout the universe. Drake's equation is a wonderful example. b) People do indeed adapt, via technology. Our adaptation is invention and intelligence. It's been extremely successfully, and that itself has been evolving... Look at the explosion of civ. the last 10,000 years.
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
this was so painful to watch
blackwolf301 2 years ago
Jezusfreek You see its very simple this big bang occured 15 billion years ago and some how formed the element then gases formed stars and galaxies ultimatly living things and everyone lived happilly ever after, theres no need use logic or reasoning or even facts to examin this, as Eugenie Scott states the facts are not important its the theory that counts.and if theres anyone else whose compelled to beleive this please contact me there some arizona beach front property id like you see.
benthemiester 2 years ago
This guy is so blinded by his faith that he fails to show any real intellegence
dajc76 2 years ago
facepalm
jacobromu 2 years ago
my thoughts exactly
blackwolf301 2 years ago
Hmm, super hot subatomic particals reacting to make any atom you can think of. Ring a bell?
Which is more contradictory:
The universe was once a super hot mass holding energy to power it or a giant man said "let there be light" and the universe was powered?
Read a book on partical physics then your opinion has some validation atleast.
HybraxNZ 2 years ago
You don't understand evolution. Don't talk about it.
LanceDirk 3 years ago
actually, an irrational prick like yourself coined that term in condescension. It just happened to stick and astronomers have used it ever since.
kidbt22 3 years ago
previous comment was to Venomfangx
kidbt22 3 years ago
no where does science refute the theory of th "big bang." Find one.
kidbt 3 years ago
adaptation is change. Did you think evolution of a species happens over a few days. NO...millions of years!
kidbt 3 years ago
also quote 'why are we not still adapting to it why are we not seeing massive changes, we arn't we are seeing small changes we are seeing adaptations' you are a fucking moron you should at least use consistency in your lies
THEdownfallOFmanKIND 3 years ago