I do not understand why all you people are making a big deal about your belief and why it matters more. You guys should respect another persons belief no matter how ridicoulous it may seem. I'm agnostic, so I don't know whether god is real or not.
Both you Christians and Athiest are being arrogant and no matter what you say to each other, it's not going to make them change their mind.
If you feel like being mean to the opposite belief, than don't say anything at all!
@cheacky15 " You guys should respect another persons belief no matter how ridicoulous it may seem."
If an adult believes that drilling a hole in their head is a good thing, so be it. If that adult drills a hole in a child's head, I'll speak out against it. If a bunch of those adults get together and work to change the laws so we all have to drill holes in our heads, you'll see a counter group form.
@NeoPsiTom Is that right, Tom? I am very happy to hear it. Please send me a pm with further details, I would very much like to hear of your experience. In Christ's love, Sal
I love how you can tell if it's a good video or a Creationist video based off of the like bar. Lots of green = funny and creative skeptic video. Lots of red = stupid creationist video.
@socalcyclist91 When you have to deal with real data, the 'Special Creation Model', 'Flood Geology' & 'The Young earth' are useless, other than selling feel good books in Christian bookstores. Eric Hovind et al. are exposed. The enemy of their worldview is not the world, the flesh, or the Devil. It's truth itself. /watch?v=dc6uhQWQQMQ
I laughed my butt off. I have all 20 of the debates avalible for sale off drdinocom. The reason I laughed is alot of the arguments in the song are meticulouly refuted in the debates I have seen thus far. I really thought the "vestigial" part was funny with the picture of the whales pelvis. Not vestigial dude. Muscles attach there that they need for breeding.
@bigbenusa45 "Vestigiality describes homologous characters of organisms that have seemingly lost all or most of their original function in a species through evolution." -- Wikipedia
So you claim the original function of the pelvis is to help breeding?
Evolution is very popular because of its flexibility. If I killed someone, there is no problem with that; survival of the fittest. Think about it. Sex offenders would not be guilty since their actions are not that much different from monkeys. If someone wanted to attack this video, that is ok since we don't have all the scientific facts yet. Don't worry; eventually we WILL. The corporate elites would have every right to control us in any way possible. The list goes on.
« If I killed someone, there is no problem with that »
... What does that have to do with evolutionary theory? If you kill somebody, you are acting against the laws of your society; evolution has nothing to do with it.
@MONOPOLY35 Evolution has nothing to do with morals or how we ought to behave. Evolution is just a observed fact which we can explain very well. Evolution is very important framework for us biologist because it explains a hell of a lot facts.
@MONOPOLY35 No you ass, we have a little something called civilization and we have laws. On the 'evolution' of morality, there's plenty of documents on that. Not a single NORMAL person would see science as a way to justify their actions, or to stop being responsible. Even deterministic people go to jail!
@PointlessSteel Many religions have restrictions about right or wrong. Evolution removes that by replacing "absolute truth" with ideals such as "law and morality". Where do the ideals of law and morality come from? Who determines what is right and wrong for all mankind in a world where morality constantly changes? If the effects of science in this universe don't change, shouldn't that apply to morals as well?
This gospel was revealed to me by the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He came to give up his meatballs that you may have life. Now, his father is no longer angry.
@u2bMonkey And to whom else? Is it written down? Do you have multiple copies from different copyists? Sophomoric at best. That might be an insult to sophomoric thinkers though...
Yes. I have gospels written 40 to 100 years after the fact, in Greek, which are not written by eye witnesses. The earliest copies of copies of copies came 200 years after the events. And they were written from hearsay stories, composed by biased men to win converts. Yes! I have historically reliable evidence!
0:35 hahaha he refuted himself! organisms witht tha wrong amount of chromosomes cant reproduce. and since humans and dogs have different chromosome counts but yet a claimed common ancestor, they could not have reproduced. they would have gone extintct
I am saying that just because they have different chromosomes doesn't mean they can't produce an offspring, although that offspring is infertile. Also - Chromosome #2 is a fused chromosome. Since evolution works via population, the entire population evolved this trait and passed it on from a gradual process, not an immediate one.
"Try calling on Zeus or Bhudda. Then try Jesus. Big difference, my friend, when God bothers to take your call." This I won't even address, it would be the equivalent of a cat toying with a half dead mouse.
@TheIdiotamerica. You haven't even listened to the video LOL. Thats about right for you, sticking your head in a subject thats above you. The evolution v lies debate is a very important one and "we" will continue to have it. And yes you should stay away from science if you can't even get past the Adam and Eve myth. Try sticking to your usual Anti Semitism . You're better at that
Its not like science hasn't tried to test "prayer" with a the scientific method, double blind studies and all that. Never once has it proven to be anything other than random chance. But I suppose your reply to that is "God works in mysterious ways" right? Funny about all those mysterious things god does though. Of course the mystery is solved when you apply either one of three things, that god either doesn't care, is not in control, or god doesn't exist at all.
@123backinyerface "Its not like science hasn't tried to test "prayer" with a the scientific method, double blind"
There are millions of documented cases of all sorts of miracles but it would only take a handful to completely disintegrate the ridiculous notion that God doesn't exist. Your problem is you don't understand anything about life because you've decided nature is God and you don't have to worship a non-entity. You can bet your life, creation is created, or your soul that it wasn't.
@lederereddy Oh really, is that what I have decided? Thanks for clearing that up there buddy appreciate that.
And you are wrong prayer is what it is, you putting your hands together and "wishing" for something to be different, sadly it doesn't function like that in the real world. So your god 'not' existing is a ridiculous notion is it. Tell me is Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu not existing as equally ridiculous?
@123backinyerface Your welcome. And what is your point about naming the obvious confusion about which god is God? If you are so sure that there is actually no God, my hat's off to you. But that's never the case with a human being. It's a hope, a prayer, a wish? Call it what you want but it's there in your heart and in your mind, 'there might just be a God' We can't get away from it. We are born with a conscience, instinct, a natural propensity of accountability to our creator. Prayer? Try to...
@lederereddy "We are born with a conscience, instinct, a natural propensity of accountability to our creator." That my friend is an assumption built and reinforced by illogical dogmatic belief. You have only a brain that has an imagination that is suggestible and looks for patterns. Once the idea takes hold, you will tell yourself whatever you have to, in order to keep your fantasy alive. Most of all you will not entertain an idea that you could be wrong, to much depends on the fantasy.
@123backinyerface Try to look at it from a different perspective- Have you ever applied for a loan or a job or at a school, etc? You send the application and then you actively wait for a response. Actively, meaning you check the mail, return phone calls, stop by the bank, etc. You trust that they will give you some sort of answer. Its the exact same thing with God. That's what the faith thing is all about. Without it, God has no choice but to respect your wishes to be left alone. And insults...
@lederereddy Even as an atheist it would be illogical of me to be absolute, but the same can be said of Russel's Teapot, when presented with an unknown or unknowable there is an infinite number of ways to rationalize it. The logical response to an unknown is to let it remain an unknown until evidence is found. If it is 'unknowable' however, then its a waste of time forming a concrete opinion either way. therefore the default position is what is most logical, ie the lack of belief or assumptions.
@lederereddy Your "application" or whatever, is out of your control the minute it leaves your hand, if no other form of manipulation is factored in. If you were applying to a person you knew was a Christian, putting a "god bless you" at the bottom is an attempt to manipulate the person reading it, many people do this. Your hopes or fears are irrelevant, they fill nothing more than anxious time. It wouldn't matter if you spent that time on your knees praying, or in a bar drinking.
@123backinyerface like "If you're God then do this or that are as worthless as just not saying anything. But I'll tell you this much. If you are sincere and ask God if He exists and which one the gods He is, you will get an answer. Sincere meaning you fold your hands or kneel etc and ask, then actively wait for His response You will get an answer. And if you do that in the presence of a loved one (sincerely) your whole world will change as The Lord has a witness when He answers your request.
@lederereddy Sorry but the highest level of sincere prayer that you have ever meant in your entire life, does not equal a hill of beans to the children that have needed the intervention by that same god when they are starving to death, or about to be slaughtered or burned alive. To compare you getting a nice parking space, a new job, or the last tin of beans at the store and attributing it to a god, is a willfully ignorant attitude. But they do say, ignorance is bliss.
@123backinyerface Yes, by the way, it is ridiculous to imagine that there are more than one Almighty, Creator of all God's. But none of them hold a candle to the voracity of biblical scriptures, the prophets, Kings, Jesus Christ, Apostles and The Holy Spirit, who now abides with me and countless millions of others. Try calling on Zeus or Bhudda. Then try Jesus. Big difference, my friend, when God bothers to take your call.
@lederereddy Once I used to think nature was a god, via the constant barrage of Christians constantly saying "god is everything". But then the more I thought about it (as a child) that is also no different than saying "god isn't everything". So until your god makes an appearance or does something outside of known natural laws, he will stay firmly in the vicinity along with Russel's Teapot. Miracles are tricky, I am torn between calling them horseshit and bullshit, I just can't decide which.
@lederereddy So you, like Bill O'Reilly, throw in with Jesus, hoping that he is the lamb, the light, the way oh my!. Well I am happy for you, I think its wonderful that you have found yourself a nice hobby, try not to let it turn into an obsessive compulsive disorder though, because I would hate the thought of your kids being sent off to somewhere like Jesus camp, to save their immortal souls from the damning grip of the Shaitan, oh no wait that's the Muslim boogeyman, I mean the Light bearer.
@123backinyerface Trying to see if I missed anything I may additionally debunk. I'd like to know you ideas on the supernatural and on things like exorcisms and near death experiences (which are well documented occurrences) Do you think these thousands upon thousands of people lied? Or has identical hallucinations?
Take "prayer" for example, the most useless waste of time for a human being. Yet the most useful tactic in keeping the naturally occurring conscience of a human being tied to the aspect of a schizophrenic mindset. When ones own conscience becomes personified it ceases to become a self critical aspect of the brain, and becomes a separate entity that informs or misinforms. Christianity is the art of manipulation. Where Judaism used "fear" Christianity incorporated "love" as its tool, very devious.
@123backinyerface I am also waiting for the Pascals wager ploy too, can we hurry this up please I am getting seriously fucking bored?
....i dont need wager..and things like that...i only use science,philosophy,history and logic...i dont accept anything BY FAITH for no reason and without the evidence...just like every european i approach to everything with scepticism....but the difference between me and you is...i am objective..and i studied and study both sides of argument.....
@123backinyerface ....but you..you dont...you are an bigot...igonrant of science,history and basically logic is not your good friend either....:))))..so..instead being atheistic fundamentalist...go and study as objective scientist and hear both sides.....either that or you are just too lazy...you choose
@giska1000 I have heard your side my whole life, its people like you who have only heard one. This "I was an atheist once, but now I see the light" doesn't mean fuck all to anyone.
@Naturallyskeptic what in the video did u find was fantastic? Why don't u make a video on somthing besides birds? Hillbillies can make better video's than you. The title said Frances Collins, which I asked lynx if he knew of him, which most likely prompted this video. It doesn't explain why if there is some war between religion and science was this guy a Scientist, wiki him and see what he accomplished, but the list next to your own. Who wins? u can only insult and run from reality.
@TheAmazingamerica AA don’t try to understand because its above you. This video represents perfectly the two opposing sides of science v religion. Science puts forward thousands of pieces of evidence from many different branches in order to support its claims whereas religion says nothing other than quote a fictional book. Why not try making your own vids rather than waste time annoying people. But I suppose even that is above you LOL
@Naturallyskeptic I would have to listen to the video first which I am not wasting my time. I am not into evolution vs creation debates, if u want to spend your life arguing about where we came from and where we are going that is up to you. I'm debating ur use of the term "we" like u own science. I asked u what u have done as an individual in Science compared to what Frank Collins has done? Are u comparing bird watching to what Frank Collins has done? Please ha.
@TheAmazingamerica Everyone knows you and Axis are the p.o.s. AA. You whine about not being answered when you never answer anything yourself, just change the subject. You always state that others said things they never did, proving you a liar and a fraud. You were told to piss off, but like the stalker you show yourself as being you kept going where you were not wanted. The only ones who associate with you are other rejects that no one else can stand, just like you.
@Naturallyskeptic btw, I saw u had the chance to debate your position on evolution with 1winnertakeall and u went home crying. So don't bring that one up again! roflmao.
I stopped watching after they showed the false embryos that were debunked years ago and the whale tailbone which is not vestigial. Oh and the simple fact species distribution does not prove evolution XD Come on Evolutionists.
Pleasant song however. Clever he could rhyme all these false "facts" into one song.
@Amritizcool66 Oh but a big magical man in space creating everything out of nothing is so much more believable, right? You're the kind of young earth creationist that makes atheism so enjoyable and your channel is a trip, keep on going, don't listen to anyone and be careful people don't mistake you for an "Edgar Allan". You are totally right though, embryo development is a myth, cause Jesus' dad just clicked his invisible fingers and you appeared fully clothed and retarded, just like magic.
@123backinyerface well....lets put it this way.eitheir an Intelligent Mind dsigned universe and all living organisms...or nothingness(and when i say nothingness i mean NOTHINGNESS not even darkness,since even darkness is something(its built from athoms) )somehow nowhere,newer exploded into EVERYTHINGNESS and accidently it created extremly complex so fine tuned universe and organisms,including laws of physics ...etc..etc...and that very same notingness that created somethingness.....
@123backinyerface ...also broke its own laws of thermodynamics,entrophy and biogenesis for example...and hence..created living organisms....:)))...so you choose which one is more believable...:)) and when you said big magical man...christians dont believe in big magical man within space,but in spaceless,timeless MIND outside of this universe...since He had to be PUTSIDE the universe to create it...its law of causation...last time i heard man created a computer he was outside of a computer..:)
@giska1000 I have a quote on my channel page especially for silly comments like that.
"The mind of the ordinary man is in so imperfect a condition that it requires a creed; that is to say, a theory concerning the unknown and the unknowable in which it may place its deluded faith and be at rest."
So, whatever you need to tell yourself is just fine with me. I am not angry by the way, I just have no time nor patients to waste on buttering up dickhead creationists.
@123backinyerface blablabla...friend...what you said is meaningless...you just waisted your time because you said....nothing....oh and btw i am BSc and MSc in molekularna biologija(biology,microbiology,biochemistry and genetics) and owner of diplomas in philosophy and hostory...so..you speak with european...dear sir...:)))..so we are far from dickheads...btw i was darwinist myself...now i am IDrs...darwinism is pseudoscience...IDrs is future of science...just wait..you ll see....
@giska1000 "IDrs is future of science...just wait..you ll see...." lol yeah, i'll hold my breath shall I? How can your "career" have a unbiased scientific approach when you have already made up your mind that there is a, how did you put it again, "A mind outside the universe", way to go on using evidence to draw on your science. All those "pseudo scientists" must be just on the edge of their seats waiting for you to come straighten them out. Oooh a European, wow that settles it then huh?
@123backinyerface umm..kid...dont worry...we invented all of this you see...including theory of evolution,scepticism,rationalism,all branches of science...etc..:)))..but unfortunatelly...darwinian theory was just as useful and true as geocentrism...when heliocentrism came few scientists proposed it and were laughed at...same thing happened to IDrs few decades ago,but IDrs and creationists movements rrising even faster here in uk and eurpe then in usa and australia...sorry but science progress...
@giska1000 Oh pull your head out of your ass, you moron, I don't believe a single word you have said. Secondly I was born, bred and educated in the UK and therefore also European, you arrogant little fuck, so don't give me the dumb American bullshit that morons like you thrive on to feel that you are somehow adequate. Your religious retardation is one of the most laughable things to any aspect of science, so stop your bullshit. Science and god? Yeah that ship has sailed 300 years ago, dumbass!
You are not a scientist...you are a 22 year old cultist, who has let his schizophrenia take over his mind. "darwinian theory was just as useful and true as geocentrism" Oh holy shit XD LMAO !!! that's awesome!! Please keep going, if anyone is going to be laughing at their comments when they grow up, its going to be you my little 'creationist scientist friend' (what a contradiction in terms). So evolutions is a big conspiracy then? Do tell me more oh holy one, convert thee with thy big mind lol.
@123backinyerface You are not a scientist...you are a 22 year old cultist, who has let his schizophrenia
...ummm...and you are little lifeless noob that newer heard of a math.....since i had 22 yrs in 2009th...and today is 2011th....i have practically 25 yrs now...:)))...
So evolutions is a big conspiracy then? Do tell me more oh holy one, convert thee with thy big mind lol.
...ummm...no kid....theory of evolution was just an 19th century theory that failed thanks to all discoveries...
@123backinyerface ..and progress we had in 21st century science...:)))..
Secondly I was born, bred and educated in the UK and therefore also European, you arrogant little fuck, so don't give me the dumb American bullshit that morons like you thrive on to feel that you are somehow adequate.
....ahaha...surely..judging my your comments and level of intelligence ....it is observable that you are ,,educated,, an ,,born,, in the UK ...:D...lmao....ehhhh kid...
@giska1000 Oh so now there is something wrong with spongebob? Watch your mouth cultist, we take our cartoons very seriously over here. Maybe when you grow up, and one day if some female lets you touch her, you might have kids, because right now my 8 year old son has more common sense than you. You are an embarrassment to any branch of science. I don't think you should be that judgmental of Americans considering your own particular mental delusion.
@123backinyerface Oh so now there is something wrong with spongebob? Watch your mouth cultist, we take our cartoons very seriously over here. Maybe when you grow up, and one day if some female lets you touch her,
...ummm...kid...while you watched spongebob...i alredy let your mom to touch me...:))) :PP
@giska1000 Intelligent design is a growing trend among many prominent scientists. When they see the irreducible complexity of cells and how we cant get below a certain amount of base pairs, they see darwinism and abiogenesis as the frauds they are. Atheists still cling to it with hope future discoveries will strengthen their frail theory, so that they will not have to face the fact there is a God and they are to be held accountable for their sins. I fell pity for this poor fella.
@123backinyerface ...and as scientists....we all have to follow evidence where it leads.....so..you can continue to play your little video games or whatever you do in your basement.....but when you decide to come out of it and study this issue...you ll see how ignorant and uneducated you are...and you ll probaly laugh at these comments one day....(and btw yes there is great difference between us,europeans and non europeans..not only in life standard but in level of education..our is far greater)
@123backinyerface Well a "big magical man"creating the universe is better than believing energy always existed and matter came from nothing. Its funny how atheists forget what they believe when talking to creationists. You believe a 1 in 10^144 chance is reasonable and that the first cell was made from shufflin' elements. Oops, you are a hypocrite! And I wasn't talking about embryo dev einstien, I was talking about Earnest Haekel's drawing of a fetus which was debunked in the 1800. Cheers Bro.
@Amritizcool66 oh its far wore than that..considering the fact that he believes all elements emerged from hydrogen and even radium and uranium...:/....he believe in formation of stars..even if we only observe novas and supernovas...he believes in natural selection as driving force-disproven by latest research of cane toads...speedy toads...he believes in survival of the fittest-disproved by e.coli and other bacterias and now we have survival of ,,kindest,, ..or ,,slowest,,...etc..:)))
@Amritizcool66 and not to mention random mutation..he actually believe that mutation can do anything...outside its own DNA genome,and he surely missed work of leading geneticist John Sanford and his book about DNA genome and its entrophy...:)))..well..what can you say....they are people who still believe in cell as being imple piece of purple jelly bonbon,darwins tree of life and ,,common ancestor myth,,...even rejected by Dr Craig Venter....they are still stucked in the 19th century ,,science,,
@flametitan100 ok...secular claims of top scholars...AND watch their debates...Dr Daniel B. Wallace and Dr. Gary Habermas....is you need i ll send you more...much much....much more...but...check out their claims and proof from SECULAR scholarly perspective...btw both are top experts,daniel b. wallace is world authority in koine greek and n.t historicity,while gary habermas is distinguished professor and one of the top scholars concerning historicity of resurrection of Judeo Christian God...
@flametitan100 Wow, a book about people who believe in a god. Impressive.
Seriously, find better "proof" than that.
...no...a book FROM people who were hardcore atheists darwinists and sceptics just like i was...anjd who actually tried to disprove judeo christianity and even debated christians..just like i did...but then..after amount of evidence they found and after they saw they cannot disprove any claim but contrary to that...after they found consistency between scriptures and other fields
@flametitan100 ..concerning science...history,archaeology,philosophy,theology...etc...they became christians...oh..and btw..they are top scholars and authorities in their fields...so....(i dont knwo why you using science anyway,since it all started from christians,from judeo christian creationists and IDrs,including even theory of evolution,natural selection and big bang theory...not to mention all this technology)all this came from ,,stupid,, creationists and IDrs ...christians who believed...
@flametitan100 ok ..if you are not even interested in research....at least study and hear both sides...then fine its your choice ....no one can force you to anything....
@flametitan100 ummm what??i newer gave you,NOR WILL GIVE YOU something what ,,such and such BELIEVED,, or believe...no....i always give SCIENTIFIC SOURCES and science articles,articles from top scholars and researchers...I NEWER said this and this is like that because i,or anyone else BELIEVE so....i am not an idiot to do such things...i gave you alredy videos from TOP SCHOLARS...world authorities,experts and professors...distinguished professors with SCIENTIFIC evidence...not with....
@flametitan100 ...what ,,they believe,,......so you either take a study and do a research and hear both sides ....or dont do that at all....its your own choice....so..if you understand english you ll see that i dont represent ,,faith,, side but scientific side which deals with evidence,and where evidence leads..not what someone may or may not BELIEVE...speculations and assumptions without evidence are pseudoscience....
@flametitan100 I like how you dismiss the book and its information because it falls under a semi religious heading. I've noticed a great trend among atheists, they ignore all evidences creationists offer and simply suggest you find better proof. its quite sad you are afraid to
I suggest looking at creationDOTcom's peer reviewed scientific articles where they offer evidence of creation and a grand designer.
@Amritizcool66 Note how it's a book about people, not Proof. That is Why I wouldn't take it.
I'm reading that website, and I don't see anything actually credible on it yet. It speaks of huge floods on Mars, yet the planet isn't even big enough to support a half decent atmosphere, and too far to allow for liquid water beyond Summer Soltices, let alone floods.
@flametitan100 It has quite a bit of proof inside it. It talks about the scientists background and why he/she believes in creation over evolution.
Did you even bother to read the book?
If you look under the scientific articles in creationdotcom, you will see many peer reviewed articles which show scientific proof of creation and biblical accuracy.
@Amritizcool66 A reason for believeing is NOT proof for your claims. It's just a highlight of a believer.
And the only scientific article I've found as of yet seems to be citing itself. When a website cites ITSELF as a back-up to its claims isn't something I like. I begin to sincerely doubt it's validity when I see that.
@flametitan100 the National academy of sciences cites its own research. Its not an invalid source. The only thing invalid is your point. The creationDOTcom scientists are from a broad range of fields and cite outside sources and even their own research. You lack understanding of this subject.
And the book I mentioned was on EVIDENCES (i.e scientific evidences) as to why they believe what they believe. You seem to be thinking of things like near death experiences or "feeling the holy spirit"
@Amritizcool66 trust me...they are not willing to even search objectively...instead of being objective and follow where evidence leads...they alredy come from one side...as atheists and of course they are prejudice...they ll rather believe in anything than God even if He hit them in head with hammer...(since they love odin,thor,tooth fairy,zeus and others so much and they all have impression of God as an old man with white hair and white beard lol)...
@123backinyerface So basically he gave you a list of people who also have "faith" in their religious books, cunning ploy huh?...lol.
...ummmm..no my friend...i basically gave you list of people who were ATHEISTS and anti christians..and who CAME TO CHRIST...after amount of evidence they found....especially Dr Gary Habermas...he even talks about his atheism and how he actually debated AGAINST christians and christianity before he began to investigate...and of course they all..every scholar...
@giska1000 "i basically gave you list of people who were ATHEISTS and anti christians..and who CAME TO CHRIST...after amount of evidence they found". Can you spot the fallacy in that argument? Sounds exactly like the bullshit I hear from Muslims too. Now this idea of Christians critiquing Christianity, is what is funny to me, someone who believes there is a god, trying to find evidence for god, in a book that says there's a god, priceless...lol.
@123backinyerface Can you spot the fallacy in that argument? Sounds exactly like the bullshit I hear from Muslims too. Now this idea of Christians critiquing Christianity, is what is funny to me, someone who believes there is a god, trying to find evidence for god, in a book that says there's a god, priceless...lol.
...trust me...you are absoslutely ridiculous..now i know why you watch spongebob....:)))))
@123backinyerface ...especially CHRISTIAN scholars approaching to bible,and everything with GREAT SCEPTICISM...i am not mad to believe in something for granted...thats something what even judeo christianity teaches...seek and you shall find the truth...and..test everything and hold on to the good....this is what bible teache us all to do...so...since we are ones who actually INVENTED scepticism...scepticism just like every other w.view came from europe...we ll definitely approach to everything..
@giska1000 So Christians AKA "You" as you claim, 'invented' skepticism, really? Quite a claim there, which I suppose you have evidence for of course, that isn't presented in a Gish Gallop style of reading a million books only to find out its a bullshit ploy, much like your "You understand genetics ha ha" approach. So no one was ever skeptical of someone else's god existing before Christianity came and said "My god is the best and yours are all fake"? Once again, priceless ..lol.
You see, at every turn when presented with an "I don't know" you simply fill in the gaps with god, hence Intelligent Design AKA Creationism AKA Fundamentalist Christianity is simply a God of the gaps argument. If in your Bible (a rehash of pagan myths) doesn't explain things literally, then it doesn't explain it period. There are people that have used Moby Dick to prove to that anyone can find patterns in any literature when they are looking for those specific patterns.
@123backinyerface So Christians AKA "You" as you claim, 'invented' skepticism, really? Quite a claim there, which I suppose you have evidence for of course,
René Descartes is credited for developing a global skepticism as a thought experiment in his attempt to find absolute certainty on which to base the foundation of his philosophy. Descartes discussed skeptical arguments from dreaming and radical deception.
Earliest chrusch fathers,holy fathers and some of the greatest minds ever....
@giska1000 You said Christians invented Skeptical" Which is a bare faced lie, to be skeptical is not to beleive in something because you are simply told too. This is as old as religion itself, there have always been atheists and agnostics ever since some one said the fucking sun was a god. So quit talking shit. Ya fundamentalist freak.
@123backinyerface This is as old as religion itself, there have always been atheists and agnostics ever since some one said the fucking sun was a god. So quit talking shit. Ya fundamentalist freak.
...i see that you failed to read that scepticism was founded..scepticism as it IS TODAY was founded by christian philosopher descartes...LOOOL..you dont even know how to read you freak...-.- go and watrch spongebob please....
@123backinyerface ...like...St Augustine De Hippo,John Chrysostom and others are beginners of pre descartean scepticism....because bible clearly says TEST EVERYTHING and hold on to the good...also bible said SEEK FOR THE TRUTH and truth shall set you free...:))))...so little guy..instead of watching spongebob 24-7...you should stop wasting your life and actually start to study science and history...:)))..including history of science..because everything you see of western civilisation...is....
@123backinyerface ...product and fruits of Judeo Christianity....science itself,and all these philosophical world views are all product of Judeo Christianity and its FREEDOM to choose....to seek or to reject....to question,to test....everything you have today,including freedom of religion,pursuit of happines,equal rights etc..you have thanks to christianity....you know this very well....just as atheists aknowledge this...even dawkins aknowledged this in his debate with John Lennox....
@123backinyerface Everything we have today was gained in spite of your cult, not because of it, next?
...tell me...what is created by atheists??is there any branch of science of philosophy invented by atheists beside nazism,racism,fascism,communism,marxism and of course story telling....???
@123backinyerface much like your "You understand genetics ha ha" approach.
...funjny things genetics like me,and support my world view...ohh..maybe because father of genetics was CHRISTIAN MONK ...:))))..huh?? hah..you are an uneducated guy with ad manners...you dont have any meaning in your comments instead of bashng someone and misinterpreting him as you shown here....:))))...spongebob damaged your brain my friend...
@giska1000 Get off your arrogant high horse, you are a prick and you know it. I wonder how the baby Jesus would feel at your attitude right now? Pride, isn't that a deadly sin? Oh you model Christian you...lol
@123backinyerface Isn't it about time you dammed me to hell for all eternity for not being convinced by bullshit via bullshitters?
....ummm..no...no one cant condemn you..you ll condemn yourself...its matter of your choice..not what others think or say to you...so you condemn yourself....
@123backinyerface Get off your arrogant high horse, you are a prick and you know it. I wonder how the baby Jesus would feel at your attitude right now? Pride, isn't that a deadly sin? Oh you model Christian you...lol
...when i speak with an ignorant dumbass like you...who even claim that he has a daughter...well...its perfectly reasonable to mock you...xD....it would be a sin not to mock such level of stupidity that you have...:)))
@giska1000 Well at least I have evidence that the spongebob character isn't real, he was just created to give children enjoyment with a few moral nuggets thrown in, add two thousand years to that and who knows, maybe he will get crucified and come back to life, and if your really good you can live under the sea for all eternity in a big pineapple with Spongebob the Christ....lol.
again what the fuck does being European have to do with anything?
...ummm...maybe it is because europe is most secular place on earth...a continenmt with no.1 level of education,with the best technology and research abillities,we actually have everything here.....i hope that you at least know that u.s.a neither any other..PLACE caqnt compare with EU concerning life standard...and by life standard i mean everything ...stsarting from education
@giska1000 No it is an argument from authority and that's all. And as I said long ago, I am British not American. Secular? yeah that's correct, a separation of state and retardation, always a good idea. Last time retardation ruled Europe we called it the Dark Ages.
@123backinyerface so of course...maybe you can say to osme indians or pakistanis that they are ,,primitive,, for believing in this or that....but to say to an european that he is primitive or deluded for believing in God is simply ludacriss,,,,i newer met an european i9n my life...who believe in Christ just because it happens that he believe....no.....every christian here is well educated man,who study and seek evidence for everything...FROM every aspect,scientific field and discipline....
@giska1000 Fascism also a European export, Communism too, wow Europe really does teach the best things, you're right...lol. You see when you are dick (like yourself) trying to say that geography means anything in regards to who's better, you come off looking like, well...a dick. You need to get out more because atheism is pretty much spreading among the once retarded like wild fire. The baby Jesus must be weeping in his manger, boo hoo.
@123backinyerface "atheism is pretty much spreading" not as fast as Christianity, Atheism is on the decline.
Dont lie to yourself its not healthy.
"God creates unbelievers and knows they are going to hell even before they are created" false, he creates us with free will and a conscience which leads us in the right direction. If you truly hate God and reject him, you are off the path. Its Not God fault. You argument failed....again.
@Amritizcool66 "not as fast as Christianity, Atheism is on the decline." Yeah cause no one wants to be secularism anymore, which is in definition moving in the opposite direction to Christianity or any other insanity you care to mention. The only place atheism is on the decline is where indoctrination of the young and helpless is on the increase.
@123backinyerface You seem to think we Christians are mindless zombies who cant think for themselves, even though a vast majority of intelligent people are christian. Its common atheist thinking to think of Christians as bible thumping cavemen who dont have their own opinion. I am here as your wake up call. Get with the times Hombre. Atheism is small to begin with, it is showing no signs of growth but is showing obvious signs of regress (as stated by the world tribune and Allister Mc Grath.)
@Amritizcool66 Yet the non belief in many deities is older than the history of your cult. interesting. Just like the non belief of a child comes before the indoctrination of the child, pattern? I don't think all Christians are mindless zombies, but I most definitely think you are. McGrath lol, he doesn't even correctly clarify nor understand what atheism is, he addresses it as a "movement", when all movements are subject to politics, which is dominated by yup, "Christians". still asleep ZZZZzzz.
Allister McGrath (who btw also agrees with evolution).an "ex atheist" from the ripe age of "18", says he was a "rottweiler" for atheism. Saying that it was "the troubles" in N.Ireland that made him become an atheist. So as he was 16 when "the troubles" started and 18 when he became a Christian, he went from Christianity to atheism back to Christianity in 2 years and yet was a "Rottweiler" for atheism in between.
@123backinyerface I dont care about Alister mcgrath. I was simply quoting him and the world tribune. the bottom line is the stats, not the person who states them. You strawman is burning dude. You gotta pick up the pace to catch up to me :)
Well you obviously cared enough to use him to strengthen your position in some way, and you basically shot yourself in the foot, because his "opinion" on atheism is not even concurrent with what atheism actually is, and the fact he supports evolution was what I found funny....lol.
@123backinyerface Not believing in stuff is a pretty old practice yes. Saying Children "dont believe" even before they have a chance to decide is ridiculous. Babies DONT KNOW, atheists DONT BELIEVE. You are committing the same mistake many atheist proponents have done in saying atheism is the default belief of everyone. How hilarious.
"when all movements are subject to politics, which is dominated by yup, "Christians"" All world leaders are religious? Try Harder Genius XD
@Amritizcool66 "Babies DONT KNOW, atheists DONT BELIEVE" Ah so now we are getting it through your thick skull, you are correct atheists simply "don't beleive", now was that hard to admit?
"when all movements are subject to politics, which is dominated by yup, "Christians"" All world leaders are religious? Try Harder Genius XD"
Hmm, who said anything about the all world leaders? And you say I am the one making strawman arguments? Son, you should stay away from open flames...lol.
"just like every european i approach to everything with scepticism" again what the fuck does being European have to do with anything? Your cult is not even European, its a middle eastern cult. Why would your God only talk to "prophets" who lived in hot shitty arid deserts? Maybe the connection between sunstroke, hallucinations and schizophrenia might be something to consider?
@123backinyerface Your cult is not even European, its a middle eastern cult. Why would your God only talk to "prophets" who lived in hot shitty arid deserts? Maybe the connection between sunstroke, hallucinations and schizophrenia might be something to consider?
...as i can observe..you are not only dumb..but you are an foolish scum without any good manners and respect for other people...btw..just to let you know...those ,,shitty arid ppl,, from desert had greatest impact along with greeks....
@giska1000 Now explain to me how atheism is a cult? How the default of "non belief" is a system of belief? All children are born atheist, lacking belief in deities. Its only when language is a factor and the parents tell their children what their parent told them, then it becomes cultural, tradition, "habit".
Oh I have good manners, I just choose not to waste them on human garbage like yourself.
@123backinyerface "All children are born atheist," actually all children are born without bias and have no cognitive thought. Atheism requires you to have no belief in a god. Babies have no cognitive thought, therefore you cannot say they are born anything.
@Amritizcool66 "actually all children are born without bias and have no cognitive thought. Atheism requires you to have no belief in a god."
Once again, its like talking to a brick wall. Atheism does not "require" anything, it is a default position, no teaching or informing is needed, aww poor baby is getting fwustrwated, try prayer, I hear that can move mountains although I will also have to say there is NO EVIDENCE of that either.
@123backinyerface ...and later romans concerning our whole civilisation...so...dear friend..unless you stop watching spongebob,leave your laziness and go and study this issues ...you ll only continue to post such meaningless nonsense like you r doing right now..probably untill you die....
@123backinyerface ...with scepticism..especially when it comes to scriptures and such sensitive subjects as judeo christianity....but you are too lazy watching spongebob..so you wont even try to do a research anyway....
@Amritizcool66 Yeah but you didn't ever realize the picture of the whale wasn't its fucking tail bone but its pelvis bone which very much is vestigial, I mean the text is right there for you to read in the clip. But i guess that was too much to ask huh? BTW its funny that a creationist even considers using the word "debunked", gave me a chuckle that one. So its "Irreducible complexity" now huh? Are you going to tell us all about the Flagellum? ...lol.
@123backinyerface The Whale pelvis serves as an anchor for the whales Reproductive organs. Without it reproducing for a whale would be a "fruitless"effort.
But I guess You forgot about that. You were to busy ignoring all the obvious flaws in evolution and taunting creationists by talking smack about Spongebob. lmao. And do you have an explanation for the flagellum? How about the base pair limit? Nope? I though not :D
@Amritizcool66 "The Whale pelvis serves as an anchor for the whales Reproductive organs." Really, so it has nothing to do with it evolving from a land mammal that its rear fucking limbs were attached to, cause oh I dunno that's the entire point of a pelvis, ya fucking IDiot.
The base pair limit, so are you saying now that I have to become a geneticist in order to understand your fairytale? Wow that's a pretty solid argument there.
I do not understand why all you people are making a big deal about your belief and why it matters more. You guys should respect another persons belief no matter how ridicoulous it may seem. I'm agnostic, so I don't know whether god is real or not.
Both you Christians and Athiest are being arrogant and no matter what you say to each other, it's not going to make them change their mind.
If you feel like being mean to the opposite belief, than don't say anything at all!
cheacky15 5 days ago
@cheacky15
"Only ego complains about ego," said Ego.
u2bMonkey 5 days ago 3
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@cheacky15 " You guys should respect another persons belief no matter how ridicoulous it may seem."
If an adult believes that drilling a hole in their head is a good thing, so be it. If that adult drills a hole in a child's head, I'll speak out against it. If a bunch of those adults get together and work to change the laws so we all have to drill holes in our heads, you'll see a counter group form.
It's the same thing for why Atheists are vocal.
TheHigherVoltage 4 days ago
Is that Kent Hovind?!
cheacky15 1 week ago
evolution never happened.
darkfur35 1 week ago
@darkfur35
Your post never happened.
u2bMonkey 1 week ago
@u2bMonkey hahahaha. whoever spent all that time making this video seriously must hate christians! What have they done to your poor soul??
VOLKEROON 3 days ago
Sorry, I didn't catch the word after 'Pseudo genes and'. Could you please tell me what he said?
TeeGeeFan 1 week ago in playlist Satire
I fucking hate it when people say theres no proof for evolution. Yeah, and they believe in the Bible. Fucking idiots.
TheHolyMongolEmpire 1 week ago
Best..song..ever!
777killad 2 weeks ago
This one's very funny too (:
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Mr. Fishy Evolves! I kid you not!
WilliamTyndale1 3 weeks ago
@WilliamTyndale1 Hi there William, you are in the very same segment of fundamentalist Christianity that I was raised in.
NeoPsiTom 3 weeks ago
@NeoPsiTom Is that right, Tom? I am very happy to hear it. Please send me a pm with further details, I would very much like to hear of your experience. In Christ's love, Sal
WilliamTyndale1 3 weeks ago
I love how you can tell if it's a good video or a Creationist video based off of the like bar. Lots of green = funny and creative skeptic video. Lots of red = stupid creationist video.
shagoosty 1 month ago
@shagoosty Either that, or the creationist video blocked out all comments and like/dislike.
Jonstern1983 1 month ago
@shagoosty or...that could be proof of Romans 1 & 2Peter 3, or just that the internet is rife with trolls :)
WilliamTyndale1 3 weeks ago
kinda funny, but lame... it's blasphemy.
socalcyclist91 1 month ago
@socalcyclist91 Yep...observable reality=blashpenmy.
sloth0876 4 weeks ago
@socalcyclist91 When you have to deal with real data, the 'Special Creation Model', 'Flood Geology' & 'The Young earth' are useless, other than selling feel good books in Christian bookstores. Eric Hovind et al. are exposed. The enemy of their worldview is not the world, the flesh, or the Devil. It's truth itself. /watch?v=dc6uhQWQQMQ
NeoPsiTom 3 weeks ago
Christian: i know evolution the devils lie because blagh blagh blagh blagh that not wat the bible says. XD
RECKOGNING1 2 months ago
can i have guitar chords? lol. seriously though.
MrSarahsenter 2 months ago
@MrSarahsenter
I wrote this one day in a few hours. I never saved the chords. I'll try to make some time this week and write the chords down here.
u2bMonkey 2 months ago
@u2bMonkey please do! i want to play it for my presentation this week over the forces of evolution. thank you!
MrSarahsenter 2 months ago
@MrSarahsenter
I linked the chords and lyrics right below the video.
u2bMonkey 2 months ago
@u2bMonkey thank you!
MrSarahsenter 2 months ago
@u2bMonkey thanks!
MrSarahsenter 2 months ago
best song ever! And it's so true!
imconfusednow 2 months ago 6
@imconfusednow can you explain why this song is so true??
VOLKEROON 3 days ago
LOOOOOOL i agree all i hear is " bla bla bla that's not what the bible says."
vanessamuteiaable 3 months ago 4
hmmm im not sure evolution, bla bla bla is a great argument
Fenexs 4 months ago
I laughed my butt off. I have all 20 of the debates avalible for sale off drdinocom. The reason I laughed is alot of the arguments in the song are meticulouly refuted in the debates I have seen thus far. I really thought the "vestigial" part was funny with the picture of the whales pelvis. Not vestigial dude. Muscles attach there that they need for breeding.
bigbenusa45 4 months ago
@bigbenusa45 "Vestigiality describes homologous characters of organisms that have seemingly lost all or most of their original function in a species through evolution." -- Wikipedia
So you claim the original function of the pelvis is to help breeding?
TheAbyrwalg 4 months ago
Evolution is very popular because of its flexibility. If I killed someone, there is no problem with that; survival of the fittest. Think about it. Sex offenders would not be guilty since their actions are not that much different from monkeys. If someone wanted to attack this video, that is ok since we don't have all the scientific facts yet. Don't worry; eventually we WILL. The corporate elites would have every right to control us in any way possible. The list goes on.
MONOPOLY35 4 months ago
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« If I killed someone, there is no problem with that »
... What does that have to do with evolutionary theory? If you kill somebody, you are acting against the laws of your society; evolution has nothing to do with it.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
@MONOPOLY35 Evolution has nothing to do with morals or how we ought to behave. Evolution is just a observed fact which we can explain very well. Evolution is very important framework for us biologist because it explains a hell of a lot facts.
Tippitapitus 4 months ago
@MONOPOLY35 No you ass, we have a little something called civilization and we have laws. On the 'evolution' of morality, there's plenty of documents on that. Not a single NORMAL person would see science as a way to justify their actions, or to stop being responsible. Even deterministic people go to jail!
PointlessSteel 4 months ago
@PointlessSteel Many religions have restrictions about right or wrong. Evolution removes that by replacing "absolute truth" with ideals such as "law and morality". Where do the ideals of law and morality come from? Who determines what is right and wrong for all mankind in a world where morality constantly changes? If the effects of science in this universe don't change, shouldn't that apply to morals as well?
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acorneight 5 months ago
@acorneight
Because you don't believe in the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Evolution, you will forever burn in the Great Frying Pan. Sad, but true.
u2bMonkey 5 months ago
@u2bMonkey And where is this gospel? Poor thinking. You need to come up with a better example for rhetoric.
mgundy 5 months ago
@mgundy
This gospel was revealed to me by the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He came to give up his meatballs that you may have life. Now, his father is no longer angry.
u2bMonkey 5 months ago
@u2bMonkey And to whom else? Is it written down? Do you have multiple copies from different copyists? Sophomoric at best. That might be an insult to sophomoric thinkers though...
mgundy 5 months ago
@mgundy
Yes. I have gospels written 40 to 100 years after the fact, in Greek, which are not written by eye witnesses. The earliest copies of copies of copies came 200 years after the events. And they were written from hearsay stories, composed by biased men to win converts. Yes! I have historically reliable evidence!
u2bMonkey 5 months ago
@acorneight According to phylogeny, you ARE a monkey by definition. It's not because we want to believe it, it's because it's verifiably true.
yukikurama 5 months ago
@yukikurama There are some awesome videos on that by AronRa.
PointlessSteel 4 months ago
0:35 hahaha he refuted himself! organisms witht tha wrong amount of chromosomes cant reproduce. and since humans and dogs have different chromosome counts but yet a claimed common ancestor, they could not have reproduced. they would have gone extintct
hubjubjub 6 months ago
@hubjubjub
Snap snap, do you know what Chromosome Fusion is?
igotbored44 6 months ago
@hubjubjub Not everyone that has Klinefelter’s Syndrome (at least one extra X chromosome) are sterile. So they can reproduce.
tiaxanderson 5 months ago
@hubjubjub
Imbecile. How do you think mules came into existence?
verzen 5 months ago
@verzen imbecile....
why do u think mules cant reproduce? get slayed son
hubjubjub 3 months ago
@hubjubjub
I am saying that just because they have different chromosomes doesn't mean they can't produce an offspring, although that offspring is infertile. Also - Chromosome #2 is a fused chromosome. Since evolution works via population, the entire population evolved this trait and passed it on from a gradual process, not an immediate one.
verzen 3 months ago
I think the blah blah blah argument is very compelling and I don't understand how anyone could believe in evolution.
danjoe79 7 months ago
Francis Collins is epic win!
supersmash43 7 months ago
Hovind's face at 2:28. lol
briggles 7 months ago
"Try calling on Zeus or Bhudda. Then try Jesus. Big difference, my friend, when God bothers to take your call." This I won't even address, it would be the equivalent of a cat toying with a half dead mouse.
123backinyerface 7 months ago
@TheIdiotamerica. You haven't even listened to the video LOL. Thats about right for you, sticking your head in a subject thats above you. The evolution v lies debate is a very important one and "we" will continue to have it. And yes you should stay away from science if you can't even get past the Adam and Eve myth. Try sticking to your usual Anti Semitism . You're better at that
Naturallyskeptic 8 months ago
Its not like science hasn't tried to test "prayer" with a the scientific method, double blind studies and all that. Never once has it proven to be anything other than random chance. But I suppose your reply to that is "God works in mysterious ways" right? Funny about all those mysterious things god does though. Of course the mystery is solved when you apply either one of three things, that god either doesn't care, is not in control, or god doesn't exist at all.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface "Its not like science hasn't tried to test "prayer" with a the scientific method, double blind"
There are millions of documented cases of all sorts of miracles but it would only take a handful to completely disintegrate the ridiculous notion that God doesn't exist. Your problem is you don't understand anything about life because you've decided nature is God and you don't have to worship a non-entity. You can bet your life, creation is created, or your soul that it wasn't.
lederereddy 8 months ago
@lederereddy Oh really, is that what I have decided? Thanks for clearing that up there buddy appreciate that.
And you are wrong prayer is what it is, you putting your hands together and "wishing" for something to be different, sadly it doesn't function like that in the real world. So your god 'not' existing is a ridiculous notion is it. Tell me is Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu not existing as equally ridiculous?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Your welcome. And what is your point about naming the obvious confusion about which god is God? If you are so sure that there is actually no God, my hat's off to you. But that's never the case with a human being. It's a hope, a prayer, a wish? Call it what you want but it's there in your heart and in your mind, 'there might just be a God' We can't get away from it. We are born with a conscience, instinct, a natural propensity of accountability to our creator. Prayer? Try to...
lederereddy 8 months ago
@lederereddy "We are born with a conscience, instinct, a natural propensity of accountability to our creator." That my friend is an assumption built and reinforced by illogical dogmatic belief. You have only a brain that has an imagination that is suggestible and looks for patterns. Once the idea takes hold, you will tell yourself whatever you have to, in order to keep your fantasy alive. Most of all you will not entertain an idea that you could be wrong, to much depends on the fantasy.
123backinyerface 7 months ago
@123backinyerface Try to look at it from a different perspective- Have you ever applied for a loan or a job or at a school, etc? You send the application and then you actively wait for a response. Actively, meaning you check the mail, return phone calls, stop by the bank, etc. You trust that they will give you some sort of answer. Its the exact same thing with God. That's what the faith thing is all about. Without it, God has no choice but to respect your wishes to be left alone. And insults...
lederereddy 8 months ago
@lederereddy Even as an atheist it would be illogical of me to be absolute, but the same can be said of Russel's Teapot, when presented with an unknown or unknowable there is an infinite number of ways to rationalize it. The logical response to an unknown is to let it remain an unknown until evidence is found. If it is 'unknowable' however, then its a waste of time forming a concrete opinion either way. therefore the default position is what is most logical, ie the lack of belief or assumptions.
123backinyerface 7 months ago
@lederereddy Your "application" or whatever, is out of your control the minute it leaves your hand, if no other form of manipulation is factored in. If you were applying to a person you knew was a Christian, putting a "god bless you" at the bottom is an attempt to manipulate the person reading it, many people do this. Your hopes or fears are irrelevant, they fill nothing more than anxious time. It wouldn't matter if you spent that time on your knees praying, or in a bar drinking.
123backinyerface 7 months ago
@123backinyerface like "If you're God then do this or that are as worthless as just not saying anything. But I'll tell you this much. If you are sincere and ask God if He exists and which one the gods He is, you will get an answer. Sincere meaning you fold your hands or kneel etc and ask, then actively wait for His response You will get an answer. And if you do that in the presence of a loved one (sincerely) your whole world will change as The Lord has a witness when He answers your request.
lederereddy 8 months ago
@lederereddy Sorry but the highest level of sincere prayer that you have ever meant in your entire life, does not equal a hill of beans to the children that have needed the intervention by that same god when they are starving to death, or about to be slaughtered or burned alive. To compare you getting a nice parking space, a new job, or the last tin of beans at the store and attributing it to a god, is a willfully ignorant attitude. But they do say, ignorance is bliss.
123backinyerface 7 months ago
@123backinyerface Yes, by the way, it is ridiculous to imagine that there are more than one Almighty, Creator of all God's. But none of them hold a candle to the voracity of biblical scriptures, the prophets, Kings, Jesus Christ, Apostles and The Holy Spirit, who now abides with me and countless millions of others. Try calling on Zeus or Bhudda. Then try Jesus. Big difference, my friend, when God bothers to take your call.
lederereddy 8 months ago
@lederereddy Once I used to think nature was a god, via the constant barrage of Christians constantly saying "god is everything". But then the more I thought about it (as a child) that is also no different than saying "god isn't everything". So until your god makes an appearance or does something outside of known natural laws, he will stay firmly in the vicinity along with Russel's Teapot. Miracles are tricky, I am torn between calling them horseshit and bullshit, I just can't decide which.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@lederereddy So you, like Bill O'Reilly, throw in with Jesus, hoping that he is the lamb, the light, the way oh my!. Well I am happy for you, I think its wonderful that you have found yourself a nice hobby, try not to let it turn into an obsessive compulsive disorder though, because I would hate the thought of your kids being sent off to somewhere like Jesus camp, to save their immortal souls from the damning grip of the Shaitan, oh no wait that's the Muslim boogeyman, I mean the Light bearer.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Trying to see if I missed anything I may additionally debunk. I'd like to know you ideas on the supernatural and on things like exorcisms and near death experiences (which are well documented occurrences) Do you think these thousands upon thousands of people lied? Or has identical hallucinations?
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
Take "prayer" for example, the most useless waste of time for a human being. Yet the most useful tactic in keeping the naturally occurring conscience of a human being tied to the aspect of a schizophrenic mindset. When ones own conscience becomes personified it ceases to become a self critical aspect of the brain, and becomes a separate entity that informs or misinforms. Christianity is the art of manipulation. Where Judaism used "fear" Christianity incorporated "love" as its tool, very devious.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
You are a "theist" then, so you believe in the whole spiel, the omnipotence and omnipresence of your deity.
So a god that knows all, that creates all, creates unbelievers and knows they are going to hell even before they are created.
Oh but "god" gave them free will to choose right? So what happens when they choose the path that is not defined by god?
So freewill doesn't actually translate to "freedom of choice" at all, its just a veil to hide the fascism of your "religion".
123backinyerface 8 months ago
I am also waiting for the Pascals wager ploy too, can we hurry this up please I am getting seriously fucking bored?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface I am also waiting for the Pascals wager ploy too, can we hurry this up please I am getting seriously fucking bored?
....i dont need wager..and things like that...i only use science,philosophy,history and logic...i dont accept anything BY FAITH for no reason and without the evidence...just like every european i approach to everything with scepticism....but the difference between me and you is...i am objective..and i studied and study both sides of argument.....
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ....but you..you dont...you are an bigot...igonrant of science,history and basically logic is not your good friend either....:))))..so..instead being atheistic fundamentalist...go and study as objective scientist and hear both sides.....either that or you are just too lazy...you choose
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 I have heard your side my whole life, its people like you who have only heard one. This "I was an atheist once, but now I see the light" doesn't mean fuck all to anyone.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
This video is fantastic, it says it all really. well done and make more, many more
Naturallyskeptic 8 months ago
@Naturallyskeptic lol, how would u know? Show me where u have ever had an original thought.
TheAmazingamerica 8 months ago
@Naturallyskeptic what in the video did u find was fantastic? Why don't u make a video on somthing besides birds? Hillbillies can make better video's than you. The title said Frances Collins, which I asked lynx if he knew of him, which most likely prompted this video. It doesn't explain why if there is some war between religion and science was this guy a Scientist, wiki him and see what he accomplished, but the list next to your own. Who wins? u can only insult and run from reality.
TheAmazingamerica 8 months ago
@TheAmazingamerica AA don’t try to understand because its above you. This video represents perfectly the two opposing sides of science v religion. Science puts forward thousands of pieces of evidence from many different branches in order to support its claims whereas religion says nothing other than quote a fictional book. Why not try making your own vids rather than waste time annoying people. But I suppose even that is above you LOL
Naturallyskeptic 8 months ago
@Naturallyskeptic I would have to listen to the video first which I am not wasting my time. I am not into evolution vs creation debates, if u want to spend your life arguing about where we came from and where we are going that is up to you. I'm debating ur use of the term "we" like u own science. I asked u what u have done as an individual in Science compared to what Frank Collins has done? Are u comparing bird watching to what Frank Collins has done? Please ha.
TheAmazingamerica 8 months ago
@TheAmazingamerica Everyone knows you and Axis are the p.o.s. AA. You whine about not being answered when you never answer anything yourself, just change the subject. You always state that others said things they never did, proving you a liar and a fraud. You were told to piss off, but like the stalker you show yourself as being you kept going where you were not wanted. The only ones who associate with you are other rejects that no one else can stand, just like you.
Lynx787 7 months ago
@Naturallyskeptic btw, I saw u had the chance to debate your position on evolution with 1winnertakeall and u went home crying. So don't bring that one up again! roflmao.
TheAmazingamerica 8 months ago
I stopped watching after they showed the false embryos that were debunked years ago and the whale tailbone which is not vestigial. Oh and the simple fact species distribution does not prove evolution XD Come on Evolutionists.
Pleasant song however. Clever he could rhyme all these false "facts" into one song.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 Oh but a big magical man in space creating everything out of nothing is so much more believable, right? You're the kind of young earth creationist that makes atheism so enjoyable and your channel is a trip, keep on going, don't listen to anyone and be careful people don't mistake you for an "Edgar Allan". You are totally right though, embryo development is a myth, cause Jesus' dad just clicked his invisible fingers and you appeared fully clothed and retarded, just like magic.
123backinyerface 8 months ago 9
@123backinyerface well....lets put it this way.eitheir an Intelligent Mind dsigned universe and all living organisms...or nothingness(and when i say nothingness i mean NOTHINGNESS not even darkness,since even darkness is something(its built from athoms) )somehow nowhere,newer exploded into EVERYTHINGNESS and accidently it created extremly complex so fine tuned universe and organisms,including laws of physics ...etc..etc...and that very same notingness that created somethingness.....
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...also broke its own laws of thermodynamics,entrophy and biogenesis for example...and hence..created living organisms....:)))...so you choose which one is more believable...:)) and when you said big magical man...christians dont believe in big magical man within space,but in spaceless,timeless MIND outside of this universe...since He had to be PUTSIDE the universe to create it...its law of causation...last time i heard man created a computer he was outside of a computer..:)
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 I have a quote on my channel page especially for silly comments like that.
"The mind of the ordinary man is in so imperfect a condition that it requires a creed; that is to say, a theory concerning the unknown and the unknowable in which it may place its deluded faith and be at rest."
So, whatever you need to tell yourself is just fine with me. I am not angry by the way, I just have no time nor patients to waste on buttering up dickhead creationists.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface blablabla...friend...what you said is meaningless...you just waisted your time because you said....nothing....oh and btw i am BSc and MSc in molekularna biologija(biology,microbiology,biochemistry and genetics) and owner of diplomas in philosophy and hostory...so..you speak with european...dear sir...:)))..so we are far from dickheads...btw i was darwinist myself...now i am IDrs...darwinism is pseudoscience...IDrs is future of science...just wait..you ll see....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 "IDrs is future of science...just wait..you ll see...." lol yeah, i'll hold my breath shall I? How can your "career" have a unbiased scientific approach when you have already made up your mind that there is a, how did you put it again, "A mind outside the universe", way to go on using evidence to draw on your science. All those "pseudo scientists" must be just on the edge of their seats waiting for you to come straighten them out. Oooh a European, wow that settles it then huh?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface umm..kid...dont worry...we invented all of this you see...including theory of evolution,scepticism,rationalism,all branches of science...etc..:)))..but unfortunatelly...darwinian theory was just as useful and true as geocentrism...when heliocentrism came few scientists proposed it and were laughed at...same thing happened to IDrs few decades ago,but IDrs and creationists movements rrising even faster here in uk and eurpe then in usa and australia...sorry but science progress...
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Oh pull your head out of your ass, you moron, I don't believe a single word you have said. Secondly I was born, bred and educated in the UK and therefore also European, you arrogant little fuck, so don't give me the dumb American bullshit that morons like you thrive on to feel that you are somehow adequate. Your religious retardation is one of the most laughable things to any aspect of science, so stop your bullshit. Science and god? Yeah that ship has sailed 300 years ago, dumbass!
123backinyerface 8 months ago
You are not a scientist...you are a 22 year old cultist, who has let his schizophrenia take over his mind. "darwinian theory was just as useful and true as geocentrism" Oh holy shit XD LMAO !!! that's awesome!! Please keep going, if anyone is going to be laughing at their comments when they grow up, its going to be you my little 'creationist scientist friend' (what a contradiction in terms). So evolutions is a big conspiracy then? Do tell me more oh holy one, convert thee with thy big mind lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface You are not a scientist...you are a 22 year old cultist, who has let his schizophrenia
...ummm...and you are little lifeless noob that newer heard of a math.....since i had 22 yrs in 2009th...and today is 2011th....i have practically 25 yrs now...:)))...
So evolutions is a big conspiracy then? Do tell me more oh holy one, convert thee with thy big mind lol.
...ummm...no kid....theory of evolution was just an 19th century theory that failed thanks to all discoveries...
giska1000 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface ..and progress we had in 21st century science...:)))..
Secondly I was born, bred and educated in the UK and therefore also European, you arrogant little fuck, so don't give me the dumb American bullshit that morons like you thrive on to feel that you are somehow adequate.
....ahaha...surely..judging my your comments and level of intelligence ....it is observable that you are ,,educated,, an ,,born,, in the UK ...:D...lmao....ehhhh kid...
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Yeah that ship has sailed 300 years ago, dumbass!
...ehhhh...dum ass kid....ehhh..go to play video games and watch spongebob....lets go kid..lets go...:))))
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Oh so now there is something wrong with spongebob? Watch your mouth cultist, we take our cartoons very seriously over here. Maybe when you grow up, and one day if some female lets you touch her, you might have kids, because right now my 8 year old son has more common sense than you. You are an embarrassment to any branch of science. I don't think you should be that judgmental of Americans considering your own particular mental delusion.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Oh so now there is something wrong with spongebob? Watch your mouth cultist, we take our cartoons very seriously over here. Maybe when you grow up, and one day if some female lets you touch her,
...ummm...kid...while you watched spongebob...i alredy let your mom to touch me...:))) :PP
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Intelligent design is a growing trend among many prominent scientists. When they see the irreducible complexity of cells and how we cant get below a certain amount of base pairs, they see darwinism and abiogenesis as the frauds they are. Atheists still cling to it with hope future discoveries will strengthen their frail theory, so that they will not have to face the fact there is a God and they are to be held accountable for their sins. I fell pity for this poor fella.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...and as scientists....we all have to follow evidence where it leads.....so..you can continue to play your little video games or whatever you do in your basement.....but when you decide to come out of it and study this issue...you ll see how ignorant and uneducated you are...and you ll probaly laugh at these comments one day....(and btw yes there is great difference between us,europeans and non europeans..not only in life standard but in level of education..our is far greater)
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Well a "big magical man"creating the universe is better than believing energy always existed and matter came from nothing. Its funny how atheists forget what they believe when talking to creationists. You believe a 1 in 10^144 chance is reasonable and that the first cell was made from shufflin' elements. Oops, you are a hypocrite! And I wasn't talking about embryo dev einstien, I was talking about Earnest Haekel's drawing of a fetus which was debunked in the 1800. Cheers Bro.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 oh its far wore than that..considering the fact that he believes all elements emerged from hydrogen and even radium and uranium...:/....he believe in formation of stars..even if we only observe novas and supernovas...he believes in natural selection as driving force-disproven by latest research of cane toads...speedy toads...he believes in survival of the fittest-disproved by e.coli and other bacterias and now we have survival of ,,kindest,, ..or ,,slowest,,...etc..:)))
giska1000 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 and not to mention random mutation..he actually believe that mutation can do anything...outside its own DNA genome,and he surely missed work of leading geneticist John Sanford and his book about DNA genome and its entrophy...:)))..well..what can you say....they are people who still believe in cell as being imple piece of purple jelly bonbon,darwins tree of life and ,,common ancestor myth,,...even rejected by Dr Craig Venter....they are still stucked in the 19th century ,,science,,
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Well, can you find any proof for the claims of a god of some kind? And please, don't cite any religious book, please.
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 ok...secular claims of top scholars...AND watch their debates...Dr Daniel B. Wallace and Dr. Gary Habermas....is you need i ll send you more...much much....much more...but...check out their claims and proof from SECULAR scholarly perspective...btw both are top experts,daniel b. wallace is world authority in koine greek and n.t historicity,while gary habermas is distinguished professor and one of the top scholars concerning historicity of resurrection of Judeo Christian God...
giska1000 8 months ago
@flametitan100 So basically he gave you a list of people who also have "faith" in their religious books, cunning ploy huh?...lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Brilliant, but very dumb.
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 I liked the book ïn six days"which discusses why 50 scientists (out of the thousands out there) believe in creation in six days.
100% scientific data and stats and research.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 Wow, a book about people who believe in a god. Impressive.
Seriously, find better "proof" than that.
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 Wow, a book about people who believe in a god. Impressive.
Seriously, find better "proof" than that.
...no...a book FROM people who were hardcore atheists darwinists and sceptics just like i was...anjd who actually tried to disprove judeo christianity and even debated christians..just like i did...but then..after amount of evidence they found and after they saw they cannot disprove any claim but contrary to that...after they found consistency between scriptures and other fields
giska1000 8 months ago
@flametitan100 ..concerning science...history,archaeology,philosophy,theology...etc...they became christians...oh..and btw..they are top scholars and authorities in their fields...so....(i dont knwo why you using science anyway,since it all started from christians,from judeo christian creationists and IDrs,including even theory of evolution,natural selection and big bang theory...not to mention all this technology)all this came from ,,stupid,, creationists and IDrs ...christians who believed...
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Your Point?
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 ok ..if you are not even interested in research....at least study and hear both sides...then fine its your choice ....no one can force you to anything....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 No, its that your not giving me anything to work with other than "Such and such believed." Seriously, how does that prove your point?
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 ummm what??i newer gave you,NOR WILL GIVE YOU something what ,,such and such BELIEVED,, or believe...no....i always give SCIENTIFIC SOURCES and science articles,articles from top scholars and researchers...I NEWER said this and this is like that because i,or anyone else BELIEVE so....i am not an idiot to do such things...i gave you alredy videos from TOP SCHOLARS...world authorities,experts and professors...distinguished professors with SCIENTIFIC evidence...not with....
giska1000 8 months ago
@flametitan100 ...what ,,they believe,,......so you either take a study and do a research and hear both sides ....or dont do that at all....its your own choice....so..if you understand english you ll see that i dont represent ,,faith,, side but scientific side which deals with evidence,and where evidence leads..not what someone may or may not BELIEVE...speculations and assumptions without evidence are pseudoscience....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 exactly, they use information that was brought to them by Chrisians, Muslims and Jews.
TheAmazingamerica 8 months ago
@flametitan100 I like how you dismiss the book and its information because it falls under a semi religious heading. I've noticed a great trend among atheists, they ignore all evidences creationists offer and simply suggest you find better proof. its quite sad you are afraid to
I suggest looking at creationDOTcom's peer reviewed scientific articles where they offer evidence of creation and a grand designer.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 Note how it's a book about people, not Proof. That is Why I wouldn't take it.
I'm reading that website, and I don't see anything actually credible on it yet. It speaks of huge floods on Mars, yet the planet isn't even big enough to support a half decent atmosphere, and too far to allow for liquid water beyond Summer Soltices, let alone floods.
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 It has quite a bit of proof inside it. It talks about the scientists background and why he/she believes in creation over evolution.
Did you even bother to read the book?
If you look under the scientific articles in creationdotcom, you will see many peer reviewed articles which show scientific proof of creation and biblical accuracy.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 A reason for believeing is NOT proof for your claims. It's just a highlight of a believer.
And the only scientific article I've found as of yet seems to be citing itself. When a website cites ITSELF as a back-up to its claims isn't something I like. I begin to sincerely doubt it's validity when I see that.
flametitan100 8 months ago
@flametitan100 the National academy of sciences cites its own research. Its not an invalid source. The only thing invalid is your point. The creationDOTcom scientists are from a broad range of fields and cite outside sources and even their own research. You lack understanding of this subject.
And the book I mentioned was on EVIDENCES (i.e scientific evidences) as to why they believe what they believe. You seem to be thinking of things like near death experiences or "feeling the holy spirit"
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 trust me...they are not willing to even search objectively...instead of being objective and follow where evidence leads...they alredy come from one side...as atheists and of course they are prejudice...they ll rather believe in anything than God even if He hit them in head with hammer...(since they love odin,thor,tooth fairy,zeus and others so much and they all have impression of God as an old man with white hair and white beard lol)...
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface So basically he gave you a list of people who also have "faith" in their religious books, cunning ploy huh?...lol.
...ummmm..no my friend...i basically gave you list of people who were ATHEISTS and anti christians..and who CAME TO CHRIST...after amount of evidence they found....especially Dr Gary Habermas...he even talks about his atheism and how he actually debated AGAINST christians and christianity before he began to investigate...and of course they all..every scholar...
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 "i basically gave you list of people who were ATHEISTS and anti christians..and who CAME TO CHRIST...after amount of evidence they found". Can you spot the fallacy in that argument? Sounds exactly like the bullshit I hear from Muslims too. Now this idea of Christians critiquing Christianity, is what is funny to me, someone who believes there is a god, trying to find evidence for god, in a book that says there's a god, priceless...lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface Can you spot the fallacy in that argument? Sounds exactly like the bullshit I hear from Muslims too. Now this idea of Christians critiquing Christianity, is what is funny to me, someone who believes there is a god, trying to find evidence for god, in a book that says there's a god, priceless...lol.
...trust me...you are absoslutely ridiculous..now i know why you watch spongebob....:)))))
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...especially CHRISTIAN scholars approaching to bible,and everything with GREAT SCEPTICISM...i am not mad to believe in something for granted...thats something what even judeo christianity teaches...seek and you shall find the truth...and..test everything and hold on to the good....this is what bible teache us all to do...so...since we are ones who actually INVENTED scepticism...scepticism just like every other w.view came from europe...we ll definitely approach to everything..
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 So Christians AKA "You" as you claim, 'invented' skepticism, really? Quite a claim there, which I suppose you have evidence for of course, that isn't presented in a Gish Gallop style of reading a million books only to find out its a bullshit ploy, much like your "You understand genetics ha ha" approach. So no one was ever skeptical of someone else's god existing before Christianity came and said "My god is the best and yours are all fake"? Once again, priceless ..lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
You see, at every turn when presented with an "I don't know" you simply fill in the gaps with god, hence Intelligent Design AKA Creationism AKA Fundamentalist Christianity is simply a God of the gaps argument. If in your Bible (a rehash of pagan myths) doesn't explain things literally, then it doesn't explain it period. There are people that have used Moby Dick to prove to that anyone can find patterns in any literature when they are looking for those specific patterns.
Satan is lord. :P
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface So Christians AKA "You" as you claim, 'invented' skepticism, really? Quite a claim there, which I suppose you have evidence for of course,
René Descartes is credited for developing a global skepticism as a thought experiment in his attempt to find absolute certainty on which to base the foundation of his philosophy. Descartes discussed skeptical arguments from dreaming and radical deception.
Earliest chrusch fathers,holy fathers and some of the greatest minds ever....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 You said Christians invented Skeptical" Which is a bare faced lie, to be skeptical is not to beleive in something because you are simply told too. This is as old as religion itself, there have always been atheists and agnostics ever since some one said the fucking sun was a god. So quit talking shit. Ya fundamentalist freak.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface This is as old as religion itself, there have always been atheists and agnostics ever since some one said the fucking sun was a god. So quit talking shit. Ya fundamentalist freak.
...i see that you failed to read that scepticism was founded..scepticism as it IS TODAY was founded by christian philosopher descartes...LOOOL..you dont even know how to read you freak...-.- go and watrch spongebob please....
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...like...St Augustine De Hippo,John Chrysostom and others are beginners of pre descartean scepticism....because bible clearly says TEST EVERYTHING and hold on to the good...also bible said SEEK FOR THE TRUTH and truth shall set you free...:))))...so little guy..instead of watching spongebob 24-7...you should stop wasting your life and actually start to study science and history...:)))..including history of science..because everything you see of western civilisation...is....
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...product and fruits of Judeo Christianity....science itself,and all these philosophical world views are all product of Judeo Christianity and its FREEDOM to choose....to seek or to reject....to question,to test....everything you have today,including freedom of religion,pursuit of happines,equal rights etc..you have thanks to christianity....you know this very well....just as atheists aknowledge this...even dawkins aknowledged this in his debate with John Lennox....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Everything we have today was gained in spite of your cult, not because of it, next?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface Everything we have today was gained in spite of your cult, not because of it, next?
...tell me...what is created by atheists??is there any branch of science of philosophy invented by atheists beside nazism,racism,fascism,communism,marxism and of course story telling....???
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface much like your "You understand genetics ha ha" approach.
...funjny things genetics like me,and support my world view...ohh..maybe because father of genetics was CHRISTIAN MONK ...:))))..huh?? hah..you are an uneducated guy with ad manners...you dont have any meaning in your comments instead of bashng someone and misinterpreting him as you shown here....:))))...spongebob damaged your brain my friend...
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Get off your arrogant high horse, you are a prick and you know it. I wonder how the baby Jesus would feel at your attitude right now? Pride, isn't that a deadly sin? Oh you model Christian you...lol
123backinyerface 8 months ago
Isn't it about time you dammed me to hell for all eternity for not being convinced by bullshit via bullshitters?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface Isn't it about time you dammed me to hell for all eternity for not being convinced by bullshit via bullshitters?
....ummm..no...no one cant condemn you..you ll condemn yourself...its matter of your choice..not what others think or say to you...so you condemn yourself....
giska1000 8 months ago
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@123backinyerface Get off your arrogant high horse, you are a prick and you know it. I wonder how the baby Jesus would feel at your attitude right now? Pride, isn't that a deadly sin? Oh you model Christian you...lol
...when i speak with an ignorant dumbass like you...who even claim that he has a daughter...well...its perfectly reasonable to mock you...xD....it would be a sin not to mock such level of stupidity that you have...:)))
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Well at least I have evidence that the spongebob character isn't real, he was just created to give children enjoyment with a few moral nuggets thrown in, add two thousand years to that and who knows, maybe he will get crucified and come back to life, and if your really good you can live under the sea for all eternity in a big pineapple with Spongebob the Christ....lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
Just out of curiosity are you a Deist or a Theist?
Do you think God started the universe but has no bearing on its development.
Or
Do you think God is omnipotent and omnipresent and knows everything ?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface i am theist...i am christian....
again what the fuck does being European have to do with anything?
...ummm...maybe it is because europe is most secular place on earth...a continenmt with no.1 level of education,with the best technology and research abillities,we actually have everything here.....i hope that you at least know that u.s.a neither any other..PLACE caqnt compare with EU concerning life standard...and by life standard i mean everything ...stsarting from education
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 No it is an argument from authority and that's all. And as I said long ago, I am British not American. Secular? yeah that's correct, a separation of state and retardation, always a good idea. Last time retardation ruled Europe we called it the Dark Ages.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface so of course...maybe you can say to osme indians or pakistanis that they are ,,primitive,, for believing in this or that....but to say to an european that he is primitive or deluded for believing in God is simply ludacriss,,,,i newer met an european i9n my life...who believe in Christ just because it happens that he believe....no.....every christian here is well educated man,who study and seek evidence for everything...FROM every aspect,scientific field and discipline....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Fascism also a European export, Communism too, wow Europe really does teach the best things, you're right...lol. You see when you are dick (like yourself) trying to say that geography means anything in regards to who's better, you come off looking like, well...a dick. You need to get out more because atheism is pretty much spreading among the once retarded like wild fire. The baby Jesus must be weeping in his manger, boo hoo.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface "atheism is pretty much spreading" not as fast as Christianity, Atheism is on the decline.
Dont lie to yourself its not healthy.
"God creates unbelievers and knows they are going to hell even before they are created" false, he creates us with free will and a conscience which leads us in the right direction. If you truly hate God and reject him, you are off the path. Its Not God fault. You argument failed....again.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 "not as fast as Christianity, Atheism is on the decline." Yeah cause no one wants to be secularism anymore, which is in definition moving in the opposite direction to Christianity or any other insanity you care to mention. The only place atheism is on the decline is where indoctrination of the young and helpless is on the increase.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface You seem to think we Christians are mindless zombies who cant think for themselves, even though a vast majority of intelligent people are christian. Its common atheist thinking to think of Christians as bible thumping cavemen who dont have their own opinion. I am here as your wake up call. Get with the times Hombre. Atheism is small to begin with, it is showing no signs of growth but is showing obvious signs of regress (as stated by the world tribune and Allister Mc Grath.)
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 Yet the non belief in many deities is older than the history of your cult. interesting. Just like the non belief of a child comes before the indoctrination of the child, pattern? I don't think all Christians are mindless zombies, but I most definitely think you are. McGrath lol, he doesn't even correctly clarify nor understand what atheism is, he addresses it as a "movement", when all movements are subject to politics, which is dominated by yup, "Christians". still asleep ZZZZzzz.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
Allister McGrath (who btw also agrees with evolution).an "ex atheist" from the ripe age of "18", says he was a "rottweiler" for atheism. Saying that it was "the troubles" in N.Ireland that made him become an atheist. So as he was 16 when "the troubles" started and 18 when he became a Christian, he went from Christianity to atheism back to Christianity in 2 years and yet was a "Rottweiler" for atheism in between.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface I dont care about Alister mcgrath. I was simply quoting him and the world tribune. the bottom line is the stats, not the person who states them. You strawman is burning dude. You gotta pick up the pace to catch up to me :)
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 "I dont care about Alister mcgrath"
Well you obviously cared enough to use him to strengthen your position in some way, and you basically shot yourself in the foot, because his "opinion" on atheism is not even concurrent with what atheism actually is, and the fact he supports evolution was what I found funny....lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Not believing in stuff is a pretty old practice yes. Saying Children "dont believe" even before they have a chance to decide is ridiculous. Babies DONT KNOW, atheists DONT BELIEVE. You are committing the same mistake many atheist proponents have done in saying atheism is the default belief of everyone. How hilarious.
"when all movements are subject to politics, which is dominated by yup, "Christians"" All world leaders are religious? Try Harder Genius XD
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 "Babies DONT KNOW, atheists DONT BELIEVE" Ah so now we are getting it through your thick skull, you are correct atheists simply "don't beleive", now was that hard to admit?
"when all movements are subject to politics, which is dominated by yup, "Christians"" All world leaders are religious? Try Harder Genius XD"
Hmm, who said anything about the all world leaders? And you say I am the one making strawman arguments? Son, you should stay away from open flames...lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
"just like every european i approach to everything with scepticism" again what the fuck does being European have to do with anything? Your cult is not even European, its a middle eastern cult. Why would your God only talk to "prophets" who lived in hot shitty arid deserts? Maybe the connection between sunstroke, hallucinations and schizophrenia might be something to consider?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface Your cult is not even European, its a middle eastern cult. Why would your God only talk to "prophets" who lived in hot shitty arid deserts? Maybe the connection between sunstroke, hallucinations and schizophrenia might be something to consider?
...as i can observe..you are not only dumb..but you are an foolish scum without any good manners and respect for other people...btw..just to let you know...those ,,shitty arid ppl,, from desert had greatest impact along with greeks....
giska1000 8 months ago
@giska1000 Now explain to me how atheism is a cult? How the default of "non belief" is a system of belief? All children are born atheist, lacking belief in deities. Its only when language is a factor and the parents tell their children what their parent told them, then it becomes cultural, tradition, "habit".
Oh I have good manners, I just choose not to waste them on human garbage like yourself.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface "All children are born atheist," actually all children are born without bias and have no cognitive thought. Atheism requires you to have no belief in a god. Babies have no cognitive thought, therefore you cannot say they are born anything.
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
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@Amritizcool66 "actually all children are born without bias and have no cognitive thought. Atheism requires you to have no belief in a god."
Once again, its like talking to a brick wall. Atheism does not "require" anything, it is a default position, no teaching or informing is needed, aww poor baby is getting fwustrwated, try prayer, I hear that can move mountains although I will also have to say there is NO EVIDENCE of that either.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...and later romans concerning our whole civilisation...so...dear friend..unless you stop watching spongebob,leave your laziness and go and study this issues ...you ll only continue to post such meaningless nonsense like you r doing right now..probably untill you die....
giska1000 8 months ago
@123backinyerface ...with scepticism..especially when it comes to scriptures and such sensitive subjects as judeo christianity....but you are too lazy watching spongebob..so you wont even try to do a research anyway....
giska1000 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 Yeah but you didn't ever realize the picture of the whale wasn't its fucking tail bone but its pelvis bone which very much is vestigial, I mean the text is right there for you to read in the clip. But i guess that was too much to ask huh? BTW its funny that a creationist even considers using the word "debunked", gave me a chuckle that one. So its "Irreducible complexity" now huh? Are you going to tell us all about the Flagellum? ...lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface The Whale pelvis serves as an anchor for the whales Reproductive organs. Without it reproducing for a whale would be a "fruitless"effort.
But I guess You forgot about that. You were to busy ignoring all the obvious flaws in evolution and taunting creationists by talking smack about Spongebob. lmao. And do you have an explanation for the flagellum? How about the base pair limit? Nope? I though not :D
Amritizcool66 8 months ago
@Amritizcool66 "The Whale pelvis serves as an anchor for the whales Reproductive organs." Really, so it has nothing to do with it evolving from a land mammal that its rear fucking limbs were attached to, cause oh I dunno that's the entire point of a pelvis, ya fucking IDiot.
The base pair limit, so are you saying now that I have to become a geneticist in order to understand your fairytale? Wow that's a pretty solid argument there.
123backinyerface 8 months ago