The War We Are In: Communism vs. Capitalism (2/2) (1962)

[importfilta]

WOW if this guy could see the year 2011 he'd shit himself :-)

[bapyou]

More quotes from the intro to 'The Battle of Russia':

"The gallantry and aggressive fighting spirit of the Russian soldiers command the American army's admiration." - George C. Marshall, Chief of Staff, US Army

"I join ... in admiration for the Soviet Union's heroic and historic defense." - Ernest L. KIng, Commander in Chief, United States Fleet

[bapyou]

At the beginning of 'The Battle of Russia' a series of quotes scroll across the screen. Here are a few:

"History know no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of Soviet Russia." - Henry L. Stimson, American Secretary of War

"We and our allies owe and acknowledge an everlasting debt of gratitude to the armies and people of the Soviet Union." - Frank Knox, Secretary of the US Navy

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou What's your point? Of course the USSR played a huge part in Europe. Everyone knows that. Those quotes just show that we weren't nearly as arrogant, narcissistic, and egotistical as the USSR. Do you have any quotes by the Soviets showing gratitude to the USA?

[bapyou]

This talk is amazing as an example of pure Cold War paranoia and propaganda.

Recently, right here on You Tube, I discovered a film made in 1943 in the midst of World War 2. It's called 'The Battle of Russia.' It formed a part of a film series made by the U.S. War Department called 'Why We Fight.'

For all you right-wingers who think America is the greatest nation on Earth, remember the debt it owes to Russia, whose sacrifices in WW2 dwarfed those of the allies.

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou Are you aware that the USSR had a non-aggression pact with Germany early in the war? The USSR would've never entered the war on the side of the Allies if Germany hadn't stabbed them in the back.

Are you aware that at the same time the Allies were fighting Germany and Italy in Europe there was a war going on in East Asia and in the pacific ocean which the USSR played virtually no part in whatsoever?

[bapyou]

2:32 " ... the communists aim at world domination."

Just as with every conservative who has ever breathed, this propgandist is good at one thing: projection.

It is capitalist America seeking to dominate the world. Counter to what it publically claims, the U.S. has never "spread democracy" around the world. What it has done is systematically undermine every socialist government that's come into existence. It's supported fascists as long as they were compliant with U.S. business interests.

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou "this propgandist is good at one thing: projection."

Lenin did the same thing by accusing capitalists of being imperialists. Just like the Nazis accused the Jews of plotting world domination.

"U.S. has never "spread democracy" around the world"

Proof we are not imperialistic. We protect democracy, not force it

"It's supported fascists as long as they were compliant with U.S. business interests."

Proof of our tolerance as long as the fascists aren't plotting world domination.

[bapyou]

@KayBeeEee1983 "Proof we are not imperialistic. We protect democracy, not force it."

America has never "protected" democracy, you stupid foolish assfucker. America has overthrown democracy around the world installing dictatorsips in its place: Iran 1952, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, most recently Honduras 2009.

"Proof of our tolerance as long as the fascists aren't plotting world domination."

After WW2 the US supported fascists in Italy, Greece, & France.

Go sniff your farts, whore.

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou What a coward, you are. No wonder you hate capitalism; you know you're a pathetic loser whose universal ineptitude assures that you will never be able to lift yourself up from the bottom rung of society. Your only hope is to steal from successful people and bring them down to your level.

"After WW2 the US supported fascists in Italy, Greece, & France."

You're illiterate. I said we tolerate fascists WHO AREN'T PLOTTING WORLD DOMINATION.

[bapyou]

@KayBeeEee1983 "I said we tolerate fascists WHO AREN'T PLOTTING WORLD DOMINATION."

The Us actively supported fascists and placed them in power. This was done in Greece, France, Italy, Chile, Guatemala, Honduras, Portugal, Nicaragua . . . the list is endless.

In Greece toward the close of WW2, the US actively supported Nazis in fighting the communists who had resisted the Nazi occupation of Greece.

The US, you cowardly dimwit, has NEVER supported democracy anywhere.

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou "Greece, France, Italy, Chile, Guatemala, Honduras, Portugal, Nicaragua "

You have terrible reading comprehension skills. Which of those nations have plotted world domination post-WW2?

"In Greece toward the close of WW2, the US actively supported Nazis in fighting the communists who had resisted the Nazi occupation of Greece."

Where did you get that? Show me a source.

"The US, you cowardly dimwit, has NEVER supported democracy anywhere."

Why did we fight in Vietnam and Korea, then?

[bapyou]

@KayBeeEee1983 "Which of those nations have plotted world domination post-WW2?"

According to US foreign policy, they were all part of the Great International Communist Conspiracy to overthrow democracy.

"Why did we fight in Vietnam and Korea?" Vietnam was an illegal imperialist war of agression. The Vietnamese, you sorry excuse for a human being, wished to be free of foreign domination. The US wished to dominate it.

Greece: start with William Blum's 'Killing Hope' & references therein.

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou Are you on drugs? You can't remember one sentence to the next.

"Proof of our tolerance as long as the fascists aren't plotting world domination."

"America has overthrown democracy around the world installing dictatorsips in its place"

"Which of those nations have plotted world domination post-WW2?"

"they were all part of the Great International Communist Conspiracy to overthrow democracy."

I'm asking about the FASCISTS trying to take over the world, not communists, retard.

[bapyou]

@KayBeeEee1983 "I'm asking about the FASCISTS trying to take over the world, not communists, retard."

OK, you assfucking moron, you were talkng about fascists. Hitler, you scumfuck whore, was a fascist: The Nazis took much of their prgoram from Mussolini. Hitler wanted to take over the world.

In other words, you too-stupid-to-think dumb cunt, the United States fought WW2 in order to save the world from fascism & then put fascists BACK into power.

Wow. What values & logic!

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou LOL I just looked up that guy william blum. He's one of the guys that thinks the collapse of the WTC was a controlled demolition. You're such an idiot! Now it makes sense why you are so ignorant of the USA. You've just lost all of what little credibility you had left. You're a joke!

"Vietnam was an illegal imperialist war of agression."

You're totally right about that one. Imperialist Russia helped North Vietnam invade the South.

[bapyou]

@KayBeeEee1983 Look, assfuck, if you don't have the attention span to sit through reading anything longer than a You Tube comment, why ask about sources for the US support of Nazis against communists in WW2 Greece?

But then, that is typical of your stupid low-watt kind. William Blum is perhaps America's foremost historian of CIA & US military overthrows of foreign governments. Your comment about Blum is internet gunk. Read his books.

Your comment about Vietnam is ill-informed and moronic.

[WW2GermanMilitaria]

@KayBeeEee1983 Don't tel me you get stuff from the internet? The most logical assumption of what site you went to..uhh..lets say... Wiki-wearestupid-pedia?

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou "What it has done is systematically undermine every socialist government that's come into existence."

If that's true, it's because planned economies don't work and will never work.

[bapyou]

This asshole is great at doublespeak. Communism never sought the destruction of capitalist nations. Capitalism is destroying itself now anyway. This man is an elitist. And that is what capitalism is about: A few reaping profits on the backs of the many. That is what it always has been; that is what it always will be.

Communism wrests power from the tiny elite; it is the world's peoples sharing the world's resources in common & for the benefit of all, not for the profit of a tiny elite.

[KayBeeEee1983]

@bapyou "Communism never sought the destruction of capitalist nations."

Korea? Vietnam?

"Capitalism is destroying itself now anyway."

Good thing the USA isn't truly capitalist anymore. We're a social democracy, now.

"Communism wrests power from the tiny elite"

and hands it over to a different tiny elite that has no idea what it's doing

"it is the world's peoples sharing the world's resources in common & for the benefit of all"

Sounds nice, doesnt it? Too bad it's total bullshit