Real differences from someone who actually knows something about sound: your midi card has cannot support reverb and has no real range from bass to treble, as to their midi card can use reverb, has a way more dynamism through the bass to treble, you can hear the details better even with that big fat 80's snare on there. In short, midi is pretty shitty in general, so who cares?
RPG maker VX is not a fail, because you have to code and create everything yourself. RPG maker VX is AN adventure maker game program with only makes Adventure type games. Just like the old games that already been made like dragon warrior,finnal fantasy types.
Hey, did you know you can make RPGs with it too? To say that it fails because YOUR sound card is incompatible is just stupid. And seriously, the only reason to get a kick ass midi card is if you're the keyboard guy in some lame ass band. Cheesus Crust!
@Storm2371 And there may be problems with the system sometimes, like glitches from the database such as troops and stuff, but it DEFINITELY does not fail, so Cynon44 needs to stop hating xD.
so far the only problem i encountered with vx is getting used to rgss2, the crappy battle system (hich can be fixed with scripting), the character sets and the MAPPING... yeah i like xp better.
just saying, I see your point, and making the switch now I notice the difference and it irritates me, but after a few listens they sound more or less the same, and if the game's visuals are as well developed or more so than the music none of the audience will know it. It's annoying, but this one flaw isn't enough to belie the overwhelming number of improvement in VX. At least, for me it isn't.
Dude, the second one sounds WAY better. The drums have more dynamic power, the xylophone sounds less 'piercing', and overall, the instruments are less computer-y. The guitars even sound better, I'm not a fan of VX, but seriously? To each their own, but I'm really surprised you like the first one more.
"RPG Maker VX and Why it Fails" WTF? This is one part to a game. Music adds alot, but if you really get so upset over a peice like that then that's really sad. RPG Maker vx has a lot more to offer then sound. Try actually using and playing the program before you bash it call it a fail.
Their version gave it more of a classic feel to it, in which RPG Maker games intend to be: classic. Honestly though, you had a nearly 8 year outdated card then, and a 10 year outdated card now. I don't think RMVX had sound cards from nearly a decade ago in their mind when they were making their program.
And the people have a point, if you designed the music only to how you heard it with your fancy card, it's just going to fck it up for the players. Unless you make a game just to do it. >.>
I'd say it's a valid payoff for a consistent end result. That is, it gives the developer more control over the presentation of their game by letting them hear how all of their users will also hear their music and then tweak it accordingly, since everyone will be using the same soundfont or virtual synths.
How is this any different than using MIDI to compose for virtual instruments, then rendering and mixing the results into MP3s? The end result is still music that sounds the same everywhere.
@jodoherty Ugh. I meant a valid tradeoff. Basically, it allows you to take control from the user in customizing their experience and places it in your hands as the game developer.
It's kind of interesting how all these different RPG maker versions have various tradeoffs and compromises though. Simply using the newest one doesn't necessarily give you the most flexibility, depending on what you want to do. I'd say that's their real mistake, since it reduces the incentive to upgrade.
Eh, I find the RPG Maker series too limiting anyways. I mean, it's great for people who just want to make traditional RPGs with no hassle. But GameMaker is much better for making any kind of sprite based game.
Well also considering you have to pay them even if you want to make something for fun! And #2, MIDI IS FINE. For freaking pete's sake, The look and the sound of RPG Maker games is super outdated anyway!
5p4rk13r I salute you. And my friend Cynon this video is titled RPG Maker VX and why it fails. You only give one reason and that reason is due to your outdated sound card. RPG Maker is not all about sound. All you did was bitch about something that is relatively easy to get around. I have several high quality songs. Also calling the Japs inbreds is stupid. It's American Rednecks that are supposedly "Inbdreds" get your shit right.
dude... really now? the sound isnt the most important part of a game. also, when you made this video your sound card was 7 years old. furthermore, anyone else who plays your game probably doesn't have the same sound card. and any other games were not made with your sound card in mind. continuing, why would you use midi in the first place? and in conclusion, if you knew the first thing about working with audio you would know that this is an easy problem to work around.
Are you really complaining about this? You look like such a noob right now. MIDI sucks, use OGG or MP3. High end 10 year old sound card? You've got to be kidding me.
If your point is that midi doesn't sound good... well no shit. It doesn't sound good on your oh-so-superior soundcard; it doesn't sound good in rmvx. It's MIDI. Meant for portability and minimal size, NOT for sounding good.
If this guy complaining about sounds.That depend on what type of sound wavs you use not your sound card.If for music then you do have crappy sound card.If this guy can't afford to use upgrade his sound card for better music then he could simply just use wave files.
@SgtThom Yes, I agree. I use Vx for my games and never had any reasons to complain for any reasons. I just think people find reasons to gripe over anything. I think he is too lazy to switch to wave or ogg or anything else for that matter. And no I am not trying to start a flaming war. But you are right. He could do that instead of venting his frustrations. Just my 2 cents worth!
there's such and such a way songs have to be made for vx, If you ported an rpg maker 2003 song into vx, it would sound fair, except it adds extra sounds for some reason.
Good grief, you made it sound like it was a total piece of crap but really the difference is negligible... The music here will be overlooked by the fans of the genre, besides you can convert .wav files with programs that you can find online so...what's the problem?
The only problem with the audio system that I have so far is that it enhances drumset parts a little to largely, it sometimes plays certain songs at incorrect tempos, and that it rarely takes out an instrument or two, which is weird.
I Actualy enjoyed the shitty music you listen to alot on theres rather then yours, why does every litle cock muncher have to play corny arse hillbilly music everytime they do a youtube video play some fuck hardcore DnB or Dubstep for crying out loud atleast people will listen.
You failed to make VX seem fail to me. Now, give me those 2 minutes and 19 seconds of my life back so i can waste it on something more meaningful; like watching a freaking panda sneeze.
i bought rpg maker vx( it costs 60$ 0_0 ) and i think the most major flaw with it was the front battle view. most poeple would agree with me that side view, or any other point of veiw for an rpg woud be better. honestly though i was expecting this to rant about the more important stuff instead of audio. besides i like 2nd one a little better for some reason. :P
Actually, the second one wasn't as bad as you want to say it is. I may not be an expert in music or audio but while there were noticeable differences in the 2 versions of that song, they were not fatal differences. At least the MIDI files don't crack like they do with some audio programs.
OH NO YOU DIDNT! CHUCK NORRIS WILL COME AND CHEW UP YOUR ASS AND FRISBEE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND MELT YOUR KNEES WITH HIS MIND OR SOME SHIT!!!!!!11one
I worked on RPG Maker VX and XP and I prefer VX over XP, just because its really smooth and fast paced. I am almost done with my first game after jsut 3 days using RPM Maker VX. I think the mapping part is what rules in VX, XP Sucks, Its lame.
Well in my opinion, this is a program for making old style RPG games, it's not like the music is that much in focus, and btw it where not a huge different anyway, you can hear some difference when comparing like that but it's pretty fair on the second one to. So basically your complaining about something that doesn't matter in this kind of program.
@videoUberman - I know you posted a month ago, but you say music isn't that much in focus for old style RPG games? That's complete crap. Some of the best video game music EVER has come from old school RPGs. Look at Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu), Breath of Fire, or even Final Fantasy 3. Some of the best music still, in my opinion.
oh yeah, i hade forgot that i even posted here... i don't know exacly what i where thinking at that moment, but i guess i meant that in this particular case the music isn't in much focus, maby it whould be if you where to like sell it wordwide, and especially in the 90s when these kind of games still where hot it would be of more importance, but not with this program and today... i figure it where something like that i meant. but your right, those games have amazing soundtracks...
Yeah, I can agree with that. Music for RPGMaker games definitely isn't as important as commerical products 10+ years ago were. But even though RPG music was great back then, it's not like any particular soundtrack from any video game will ever become gold or platinum. So you have a point. But when I'm working on an RPG, nothing helps get the creativity flowing like listening to some of the classics from games that inspired you to make an RPG in the first place.
I wouldn't say it's crappier as such. There's a difference for sure, but I thought it sort've sounded something like you'd hear off an old SNES game. Which to me is kind of cool, since that's what these games usually end up looking like they were from anyway. But yeah. Why wav instead of midi? That's what confuses me.
so your 1 argument is the lowest mistake within the program? wow, move on from MIDI and use more advance sound files.
i acually thought this was going to be worth hearing on picking out some more seriouse problems but nope, just the miner sound thing that im sure no one cares with
You don't need factual evidence of something (your supposed employment at Enterbrain) to reach a reasonable conclusion that it is ridiculously unlikely that you do. Of course, I'm not wrong, am I?
You don't have a fucking clue what RPGMaker is trying to emulate. You don't work for fucking Enterbrain or anything, so don't act like some leet hardcore insider.
dude, your the biggest IDIOT the world could ever know, if you dont like it then go stuff yourself with cheetos and go play nascar the home of the rednecks XD
But you dont have to fill youtube with your CRAP. Jeez,
they are using the stupid lame awful DirectMusic GS sound bank that Microsoft got together with Roland to make. The Samples are extremely lo-fi and horrid. the whole 320 patch kit is only 4 MB in size. that should say quite enough about the wave quality in the MSDM soundbank.
I don't see what you're complaining about. Seriously this is your only complaint? Hah. You're so pitiful. I personally Liked the wav version to your crappy midi card. Thank you for playing.
It sound blaster card might be the problem. I had a SB Live in my old PC and its GM soundset was markedly different from other cards GM sounds. Plus they also have their own improved version of GM aswell (soundfont i think the sounds were called)
RPG Maker XP is great but the fact that you cant combine like a snow tileset with a desert one really sucks. but if they did it There would be now need for VX
RPG Maker VX is infirior to RPG Maker XP in my opinion, not really for the above mentioned reason, just the map sets are limiting as heck, XP is just so much more versatile, just a little more difficult to use.
So, instead of making a midi file and letting the program alter it, why not go out and get a program that will make the midi file into an audio file (I use Finale, but that's a tad expensive), whether it be mp3 or wav? Of course, find an wav to mp3 converter for a smaller file size (I run it through wildvoice studio, which is free), and you are good to go. I don't have any problems. Not everything is perfect, and there's never such a thing as an "end-all-be-all" for anything, especially this.
wow i must say that was truly correct. i loved the second one more it sounds like an actual song that could be played on the ps2 while the first sounds like it come for the gameboy color... what the hell how is that worse?!
quit complaining... you said you got the trial version so you even didn't pay for it... you have to complain about it take your complaints to their forums and maybe they can fix it numb skull!!!
don't post your complaints about a program on a site that has nothing to do with the program...
and as a final note... I have the full version of this program... you can change that same song to sound like that within the program just by adjusting the tone moron!
Few points. You can import all the audio from XP to VX.
Oh and, it sounds crappier lol get over it.
And also, how do you know that the sound card I am using right no isn't crap. Well it is i'm not on my main computer. ( Hmm I wonder why they both didn't sound crap )
And I use a creative HD 7.1 sound card aswell and it's really not a big deal
you guys are just stupid, just because they change around sound and a movie player means nothing. if you're good enough, you'd use RPG MAKER VX and create scenes yourself. it isn't that hard nor is it complicated. XP has sucky sprites and there aren't easy to find sprite makes either.
It is sometimes easier to work around a problem than to re-invent the wheel, especially to re-create an awesome tool like rpgmaker just to fix one problem, but using mp3 files is not a viable solution in every case. For those who actually want a solution, and are not just stupid flamers i see everywhere, look into making the ruby script talk to a com object. I'll post my progress as soon as I reach somewhere.
A videogame is about much more than just cool graphics. The audio is also very important. Cynon44 is obviously a person with audio experience (probably a musician), who would know how those snare drums are supposed to sound. So leave him alone if you don't understand what he is saying and just... shut up. I could also gripe about enterbrain but it's partially windows' fault with thier gm.dls file so I decided to light a candle. I'm currently researching a way to use dls files with rpgxp or vx
A. its 2D. are you honestly complaining? Its got shitty graphics, and like any other 2d game, has shitty sound as well. If it were a high def 3d game, then you may gripe and moan.
B. Sure its noticable, but it isnt unbearable.
C. sorry that your song wasnt imported properly. It sounded Really good. and yea, the rpg maker def like sucked the quality out. But you could still use it.
I dont think that audio is a good enough reason to rape this program with negative reviews.
it's just different sound samples used for the midi... :( it would be really nice if you could just import your own to it, or better yet, if it had ogg vorbis support...
Real differences from someone who actually knows something about sound: your midi card has cannot support reverb and has no real range from bass to treble, as to their midi card can use reverb, has a way more dynamism through the bass to treble, you can hear the details better even with that big fat 80's snare on there. In short, midi is pretty shitty in general, so who cares?
dilps 2 weeks ago
Their midi sounded better than yours mate. You sound like a smug tard. Get over yourself.
sixshotocelot 3 months ago
That was even better, retard.
GavinHTML 4 months ago
RPG maker VX is not a fail, because you have to code and create everything yourself. RPG maker VX is AN adventure maker game program with only makes Adventure type games. Just like the old games that already been made like dragon warrior,finnal fantasy types.
nightwing49766 6 months ago
Hey, did you know you can make RPGs with it too? To say that it fails because YOUR sound card is incompatible is just stupid. And seriously, the only reason to get a kick ass midi card is if you're the keyboard guy in some lame ass band. Cheesus Crust!
EndlessShell 7 months ago
Hater! lol. Let's see you make an RPG making engine. :P
Storm2371 8 months ago
Isn't youtube used for watching videos normally ?
DarkLeviathan8 11 months ago
VX doesn't fail, basically you're just talking nonsense.
VVBlastFuryVV 1 year ago
@VVBlastFuryVV
Agreed.
Storm2371 8 months ago
@Storm2371 And there may be problems with the system sometimes, like glitches from the database such as troops and stuff, but it DEFINITELY does not fail, so Cynon44 needs to stop hating xD.
VVBlastFuryVV 8 months ago 2
It can playback MP3 and OGG files.
plugza 1 year ago
dude, that'd be awesome as a battle theme!
SuperSteve180 1 year ago
Midi music is supposed to be used a joke. and your gay. go kill yourself.
gantous 1 year ago
so far the only problem i encountered with vx is getting used to rgss2, the crappy battle system (hich can be fixed with scripting), the character sets and the MAPPING... yeah i like xp better.
martooxxx 1 year ago
VX failed xDDD Spoken from months of work with it
MiyukiGainsborough 1 year ago
just saying, I see your point, and making the switch now I notice the difference and it irritates me, but after a few listens they sound more or less the same, and if the game's visuals are as well developed or more so than the music none of the audience will know it. It's annoying, but this one flaw isn't enough to belie the overwhelming number of improvement in VX. At least, for me it isn't.
UberNiftyMan 1 year ago
I really didn't notice a difference. And with RGSS2, I'm sure it can be done better. You are stupid, and do not know what you are talking about.
Lightzeaka 1 year ago
the music isn't bad. I'm getting this game. Also their version sounds cooler, I don't way what your talking about. Way to fucking go video poster!
MawlMaster 1 year ago
by the way, the music isn't so bad. You can barely tell the difference
MawlMaster 1 year ago
cool music, I'm getting on that!
MawlMaster 1 year ago
Dude, the second one sounds WAY better. The drums have more dynamic power, the xylophone sounds less 'piercing', and overall, the instruments are less computer-y. The guitars even sound better, I'm not a fan of VX, but seriously? To each their own, but I'm really surprised you like the first one more.
Guitarfrk812 1 year ago
"RPG Maker VX and Why it Fails" WTF? This is one part to a game. Music adds alot, but if you really get so upset over a peice like that then that's really sad. RPG Maker vx has a lot more to offer then sound. Try actually using and playing the program before you bash it call it a fail.
AibattFlyff 1 year ago
"Basicy means... Basicy" Heheheheee xD
NeSayurika 1 year ago
Their version gave it more of a classic feel to it, in which RPG Maker games intend to be: classic. Honestly though, you had a nearly 8 year outdated card then, and a 10 year outdated card now. I don't think RMVX had sound cards from nearly a decade ago in their mind when they were making their program.
And the people have a point, if you designed the music only to how you heard it with your fancy card, it's just going to fck it up for the players. Unless you make a game just to do it. >.>
OroCrimson 1 year ago
I'd say it's a valid payoff for a consistent end result. That is, it gives the developer more control over the presentation of their game by letting them hear how all of their users will also hear their music and then tweak it accordingly, since everyone will be using the same soundfont or virtual synths.
How is this any different than using MIDI to compose for virtual instruments, then rendering and mixing the results into MP3s? The end result is still music that sounds the same everywhere.
jodoherty 1 year ago
@jodoherty Ugh. I meant a valid tradeoff. Basically, it allows you to take control from the user in customizing their experience and places it in your hands as the game developer.
It's kind of interesting how all these different RPG maker versions have various tradeoffs and compromises though. Simply using the newest one doesn't necessarily give you the most flexibility, depending on what you want to do. I'd say that's their real mistake, since it reduces the incentive to upgrade.
jodoherty 1 year ago
Eh, I find the RPG Maker series too limiting anyways. I mean, it's great for people who just want to make traditional RPGs with no hassle. But GameMaker is much better for making any kind of sprite based game.
didjargo 1 year ago
@didjargo I think that's why they call it RPG maker -.-
OroCrimson 1 year ago
The needless reverb effect is so annoying
TekMekka 1 year ago
"way to fucking go enterbrain"
MasterMaxD 1 year ago
@MasterMaxD Haha yeah, said in the most nerdy of ways.
dkyx 1 year ago
theirs is totally better, at least the snare is better than the cheap creative soundfonts lol
boorch 1 year ago
Well also considering you have to pay them even if you want to make something for fun! And #2, MIDI IS FINE. For freaking pete's sake, The look and the sound of RPG Maker games is super outdated anyway!
dilps 1 year ago
5p4rk13r I salute you. And my friend Cynon this video is titled RPG Maker VX and why it fails. You only give one reason and that reason is due to your outdated sound card. RPG Maker is not all about sound. All you did was bitch about something that is relatively easy to get around. I have several high quality songs. Also calling the Japs inbreds is stupid. It's American Rednecks that are supposedly "Inbdreds" get your shit right.
TheZachDaniels 1 year ago
dude... really now? the sound isnt the most important part of a game. also, when you made this video your sound card was 7 years old. furthermore, anyone else who plays your game probably doesn't have the same sound card. and any other games were not made with your sound card in mind. continuing, why would you use midi in the first place? and in conclusion, if you knew the first thing about working with audio you would know that this is an easy problem to work around.
5p4rk13r 1 year ago
Are you really complaining about this? You look like such a noob right now. MIDI sucks, use OGG or MP3. High end 10 year old sound card? You've got to be kidding me.
jbart321 1 year ago
MIDI is gay. And its even worse that you're complaining that you can't use it.
Darkgeorgelopez 1 year ago
If your point is that midi doesn't sound good... well no shit. It doesn't sound good on your oh-so-superior soundcard; it doesn't sound good in rmvx. It's MIDI. Meant for portability and minimal size, NOT for sounding good.
kylep2 1 year ago
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gamesmaster35 1 year ago
ur computers just shit xD get hd card
markgg48 1 year ago
You have a terrible sound card to begin with, of course it's not going to work since it's 8 years old when this was released.
MysticTrunksHQ 1 year ago
you suck
jamiroleander 1 year ago
You sir are a moron. The audio on VX sounds just fine, and you sir have an obsolete sound card or something because I have no problem.
heromarcostrago 1 year ago
@heromarcostrago
If this guy complaining about sounds.That depend on what type of sound wavs you use not your sound card.If for music then you do have crappy sound card.If this guy can't afford to use upgrade his sound card for better music then he could simply just use wave files.
SgtThom 1 year ago
@SgtThom Yes, I agree. I use Vx for my games and never had any reasons to complain for any reasons. I just think people find reasons to gripe over anything. I think he is too lazy to switch to wave or ogg or anything else for that matter. And no I am not trying to start a flaming war. But you are right. He could do that instead of venting his frustrations. Just my 2 cents worth!
heromarcostrago 1 year ago
But in RPG maker VX the music sounds more...old and I like that!!!
DarkDagon605 1 year ago
I say it sounds better on the VX system!
yinyang452 1 year ago
there's such and such a way songs have to be made for vx, If you ported an rpg maker 2003 song into vx, it would sound fair, except it adds extra sounds for some reason.
OSDolphin 1 year ago
At least their version doesn't sound like a robot humping a can -_-"
IDOG321 1 year ago
Also, Mr. Awesome Midi Card, really?Midi's a thing of the past dude. Use Midi to write the music, then use sampled libraries.
godseyse 1 year ago
Hey dude, the only thing I found entertaning about this was the end.
However, you have no right to call them 'Inbred monkeys'
Also, Mr. Awesome Midi Card, really?Midi's a thing of the past dude. Use Midi to write the music, then use sampled libraries.
godseyse 1 year ago
Good grief, you made it sound like it was a total piece of crap but really the difference is negligible... The music here will be overlooked by the fans of the genre, besides you can convert .wav files with programs that you can find online so...what's the problem?
5anjii 2 years ago
The only problem with the audio system that I have so far is that it enhances drumset parts a little to largely, it sometimes plays certain songs at incorrect tempos, and that it rarely takes out an instrument or two, which is weird.
scorpclaw 2 years ago
I Actualy enjoyed the shitty music you listen to alot on theres rather then yours, why does every litle cock muncher have to play corny arse hillbilly music everytime they do a youtube video play some fuck hardcore DnB or Dubstep for crying out loud atleast people will listen.
sketFX 2 years ago
lol vx midi file just owned your midi card vx sounds way better it picked better instruments it dident change the quality
ox0Jason0xo 2 years ago
You failed to make VX seem fail to me. Now, give me those 2 minutes and 19 seconds of my life back so i can waste it on something more meaningful; like watching a freaking panda sneeze.
DseanSupreme 2 years ago
I liked their version better. Haha
shaddowkarate 2 years ago 13
I kinda like the second one better.
ValinVae 2 years ago 4
So I'm not the only one?
Piconoe 2 years ago
If you want the side battle view, just get RPG Maker 2003.
Gabe1902 2 years ago
the crappyness of the midi files can be fixed with a few patches.
i use quite a few patch's that change everything from how it handles midi files to the power of the game engine it's self..
but, yeah, it does sound really shitty on higher end cards... but this WAS made for lower end computers...
MasterDiDiT 2 years ago
btw. The way the midi file played in RPG maker was better than your piece of shit card. LOL.
QQ moar
endgamer617 2 years ago
i bought rpg maker vx( it costs 60$ 0_0 ) and i think the most major flaw with it was the front battle view. most poeple would agree with me that side view, or any other point of veiw for an rpg woud be better. honestly though i was expecting this to rant about the more important stuff instead of audio. besides i like 2nd one a little better for some reason. :P
xlithionx 2 years ago
@xlithionx The front view can add more action though, but not the way enterbrain have done it.
drakomytaka599 2 years ago
:o
/Care
FakuraTarunk 2 years ago
i didnt see a reasonable difference, anyway its not about making a large expert game, its just about using it for enjoyment with SMALL games.
Iamhardcore1 2 years ago 2
i didnt really hear much difference tbh in the samples of audio.
Johfunu 2 years ago
maybe because you have a low end audio card, cause i deffinatly heard the difference.
ravercorum20 2 years ago
solution - create an .ogg loop
who cares if the midi file's smaller?
phlim2 2 years ago
Midi is useful, reduces the File Size.
Doesn't sound so bad anyways, you can edit the Pitch.
Not saying VX is the complete best, but its good for someone who wants to create a simple game and have fun.
Loaded2k3 2 years ago 2
Your complaining about a simple game maker, for BEGINNERS, yet you can't make a good video..Hypocrite
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DansVideoEditing 2 years ago
Want to buy less QQ? Why are you such a douche. So the sounds not as good.. Quit cho bitchin'!
KingOTheVillage 2 years ago
Lmao. Big deal, faggot.
Poko4Sho 2 years ago 4
Actually, the second one wasn't as bad as you want to say it is. I may not be an expert in music or audio but while there were noticeable differences in the 2 versions of that song, they were not fatal differences. At least the MIDI files don't crack like they do with some audio programs.
Zennethe 2 years ago
OH NO YOU DIDNT! CHUCK NORRIS WILL COME AND CHEW UP YOUR ASS AND FRISBEE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND MELT YOUR KNEES WITH HIS MIND OR SOME SHIT!!!!!!11one
OMGwhereismycupcake 2 years ago
I worked on RPG Maker VX and XP and I prefer VX over XP, just because its really smooth and fast paced. I am almost done with my first game after jsut 3 days using RPM Maker VX. I think the mapping part is what rules in VX, XP Sucks, Its lame.
sesshy34 2 years ago
This video fails.
IRunInTraffic 2 years ago 4
video>audio
NikolaiKojevnikov 2 years ago 10
@NikolaiKojevnikov who cares
MasterMaxD 1 year ago
thats bull shit its fine i little bit is not that bad u cummdonut!
aggresivesk8terkid 2 years ago 3
Well in my opinion, this is a program for making old style RPG games, it's not like the music is that much in focus, and btw it where not a huge different anyway, you can hear some difference when comparing like that but it's pretty fair on the second one to. So basically your complaining about something that doesn't matter in this kind of program.
videoUberman 2 years ago 3
@videoUberman - I know you posted a month ago, but you say music isn't that much in focus for old style RPG games? That's complete crap. Some of the best video game music EVER has come from old school RPGs. Look at Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu), Breath of Fire, or even Final Fantasy 3. Some of the best music still, in my opinion.
hotboxingisfun 2 years ago
oh yeah, i hade forgot that i even posted here... i don't know exacly what i where thinking at that moment, but i guess i meant that in this particular case the music isn't in much focus, maby it whould be if you where to like sell it wordwide, and especially in the 90s when these kind of games still where hot it would be of more importance, but not with this program and today... i figure it where something like that i meant. but your right, those games have amazing soundtracks...
videoUberman 2 years ago
Yeah, I can agree with that. Music for RPGMaker games definitely isn't as important as commerical products 10+ years ago were. But even though RPG music was great back then, it's not like any particular soundtrack from any video game will ever become gold or platinum. So you have a point. But when I'm working on an RPG, nothing helps get the creativity flowing like listening to some of the classics from games that inspired you to make an RPG in the first place.
hotboxingisfun 2 years ago
thats ridiculous...your an idiot
biggbaddninja 2 years ago 3
Different, definitely.
Crappier? I don't think so.
Kiyobi 2 years ago 4
cry more dipshit
deadlymog 2 years ago 3
Well, the man has a right to his opinion, but this doesn't put me off of VX.
Ayanami555 2 years ago 2
I wouldn't say it's crappier as such. There's a difference for sure, but I thought it sort've sounded something like you'd hear off an old SNES game. Which to me is kind of cool, since that's what these games usually end up looking like they were from anyway. But yeah. Why wav instead of midi? That's what confuses me.
Zenestro 2 years ago
Well, you need a better computer?
Soyawannabeamasta 2 years ago 2
Well, this video was pointless. you say VX fails cause of the midi? Thats it?
Try better next time man.
Aatish2k8 2 years ago 4
You are so right, Cynon44. VX's implementation sounds worse.
Deciheximal 2 years ago
Uh... the second one sounds better.
TheMegaPowerNinja 2 years ago
so your 1 argument is the lowest mistake within the program? wow, move on from MIDI and use more advance sound files.
i acually thought this was going to be worth hearing on picking out some more seriouse problems but nope, just the miner sound thing that im sure no one cares with
madrox8 2 years ago
You fail sir.
RoboDuck 2 years ago 2
the second one is cooler, and has more tension than the first one, so in a battle you want more tension not a perfect music, you failed
DeathLordFhyeg 2 years ago
I'm with you secounds better.
Spikestar5 2 years ago
: ....... (
stepminestepminestep 2 years ago
???
Convert the MIDI to mp3 and load it into the game, the sounds will be
exactly the same...
sweetchinmusic204 2 years ago
But you can MAKE MONSTERZ APPEAR!!!!!one
Dragusssss 2 years ago
Haha, wow... no surprise, this guy is probably an RRR douche too.
Enterbrain doesn't get it right a lot, but your whining is hilarious.
ratchelradical33 2 years ago
so it fails cuz your computer has a MIDI sound card? HAHA!
naits95 2 years ago
Their MIDI card sounds better....
UnrealSC13 2 years ago 2
Hell no. :P
DarkOmen777 2 years ago
You don't need factual evidence of something (your supposed employment at Enterbrain) to reach a reasonable conclusion that it is ridiculously unlikely that you do. Of course, I'm not wrong, am I?
Also, your last sentence made no sense.
CosmicBard 2 years ago
You don't have a fucking clue what RPGMaker is trying to emulate. You don't work for fucking Enterbrain or anything, so don't act like some leet hardcore insider.
CosmicBard 2 years ago
You're a fucking retard. Fuck your MIDIs. You haven't needed them in RPGMaker for about a decade. Get some MP3s and shut your hole.
CosmicBard 2 years ago
LOL, the second song was better!
primtous 2 years ago
way to go noob, you just either faked it or something is wrong with your card.
automail10 2 years ago
Glad there was a HQ option on that it made it a lot more clearer to see what was going on.
shmigglemichiggins 2 years ago
Why this video's author fails:
Record your midi as MP3 and use that instead. Bigger project size, but problem solved.
Shardfenix 2 years ago
hahah yeah... I didnt even use the midi songs. I just used rock music for everything.
Anarkyfox7 2 years ago
That idea contains EPIC WIN.
xGrandMasterTrea 2 years ago
I dont think this is a reason to have RPG maker VX but I do have a big gripe about not using mp3s
yuyuhakushox 2 years ago
If anything the second one is better ... and he is a tard...
Snake2557 2 years ago
If it's been in there since 2000, it's not all that high end is it, good sir? :|
WiiOwnersCom 2 years ago
dude, your the biggest IDIOT the world could ever know, if you dont like it then go stuff yourself with cheetos and go play nascar the home of the rednecks XD
But you dont have to fill youtube with your CRAP. Jeez,
Wolfpoet13 2 years ago
pfft---it sounds fine man.
GreyuZaru 2 years ago
you do know you can alter the pitch so i cannot beleave you on that note of the midi, but a very catchy jingle.
rpgwarlord2012 2 years ago
Cynon you are so right...
1hitthug 2 years ago
I have one thing I think everyone wants out of this...
Stop Complaining And Switch Back To RM2K if It bloody bothers you too much.
You dont need to make this shit and clog up youtube with your replies to RMVX.
wortana 2 years ago 5
Woah worotana!? Cool ^_^
And also, you're right...
Ps Love your scripts
Wolfpoet13 2 years ago
they are using the stupid lame awful DirectMusic GS sound bank that Microsoft got together with Roland to make. The Samples are extremely lo-fi and horrid. the whole 320 patch kit is only 4 MB in size. that should say quite enough about the wave quality in the MSDM soundbank.
tranceemerson 2 years ago
lol fail nerd
harkejuice 2 years ago
I don't see what you're complaining about. Seriously this is your only complaint? Hah. You're so pitiful. I personally Liked the wav version to your crappy midi card. Thank you for playing.
SinHarvester 2 years ago 4
You don't like reverb?
michaelcarrig 2 years ago
It sound blaster card might be the problem. I had a SB Live in my old PC and its GM soundset was markedly different from other cards GM sounds. Plus they also have their own improved version of GM aswell (soundfont i think the sounds were called)
TrevHead10 2 years ago
i like the second one better. and dude... its one minor, minor glitch... if u dont like it, buy a new computer you retard!
AtomicNerd001 2 years ago
For 1, Rpg maker VX wasn't specifically made for older computer's and components.
Also, on Rpg maker VX you can edit the pitch of the sound to make it higher or lower.
RmvxSource 2 years ago
I use MP3s for this thing....
And it totally works.... <.<
It doesn't have to be in MIDI....
UchiMikoii 2 years ago
Agreed. Mp3s are the way to go.
Omegashrimp9 2 years ago
RPG Maker XP is great but the fact that you cant combine like a snow tileset with a desert one really sucks. but if they did it There would be now need for VX
Limbonius1st 2 years ago
yeh but if u have desert in the middle off snow its not going to be a very good game
gamespyX7 2 years ago
Well, the sound is cleaner in the 1st one, but i dont think it's terrible.
ZecharaiCloud 2 years ago 3
I concur.
Ac3Jay 2 years ago
RPG Maker VX is infirior to RPG Maker XP in my opinion, not really for the above mentioned reason, just the map sets are limiting as heck, XP is just so much more versatile, just a little more difficult to use.
revenile 2 years ago
LMFAO make a video and just
Im gonna pwn these noobs
and then scream
OH MY GOD
THE ADMIN WILL BAN YOU
Jpaultawok 2 years ago
So, instead of making a midi file and letting the program alter it, why not go out and get a program that will make the midi file into an audio file (I use Finale, but that's a tad expensive), whether it be mp3 or wav? Of course, find an wav to mp3 converter for a smaller file size (I run it through wildvoice studio, which is free), and you are good to go. I don't have any problems. Not everything is perfect, and there's never such a thing as an "end-all-be-all" for anything, especially this.
Stenir 2 years ago 2
Whoa, you even fail at failing...
angriffsritter 2 years ago
every hes just wasting his time dont believe him he retarded
Killtacularpro 2 years ago 2
Your retarded, you can't even fucking type properly.
Go to school dumbass.
Desecutive 2 years ago
@Desecutive Year old comment but worth every effort to reply.
"Your retarded, you can't even fucking type properly."
"Your retarded"
"Your"
kylep2 1 year ago
2:17
well sumone put sum big boy pants lol
Killtacularpro 2 years ago
the 2nd song sounds better
darklightmike 2 years ago 3
I agree
S0hio 2 years ago
I honestly thought so too
yuutokun 2 years ago
If you dont like MIDI use OGG it supports it just as well... -.-
Yunacat 2 years ago
This is a opinion really. Before you call people "Inbred monkeys" please have a more valid arguement than two audio clips.
And imo the second sounds better.
SkyAzure7 2 years ago 3
Ugh, i'm almost embarrassed just hearing him, who's he talking to?! A bunch of 2 year olds... -.-'
louieisanan 2 years ago
i use the the rpg maker vx trial, which it lasted for 30days, but it only lasted for 1 day!
etsxx 3 years ago
wow i must say that was truly correct. i loved the second one more it sounds like an actual song that could be played on the ps2 while the first sounds like it come for the gameboy color... what the hell how is that worse?!
VanishMantle 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
quit complaining... you said you got the trial version so you even didn't pay for it... you have to complain about it take your complaints to their forums and maybe they can fix it numb skull!!!
don't post your complaints about a program on a site that has nothing to do with the program...
and as a final note... I have the full version of this program... you can change that same song to sound like that within the program just by adjusting the tone moron!
quizilot 3 years ago
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quizilot 3 years ago
Few points. You can import all the audio from XP to VX.
Oh and, it sounds crappier lol get over it.
And also, how do you know that the sound card I am using right no isn't crap. Well it is i'm not on my main computer. ( Hmm I wonder why they both didn't sound crap )
And I use a creative HD 7.1 sound card aswell and it's really not a big deal
LoneWolfSpike 3 years ago
ROFL the second version actually sounded better... If anything vx IMPROVES midi files to fit battle scenes...
darknight550 3 years ago 3
Well, it DOES sound different, but I don't think it sounds any worse. I kind of like the second version too.
CMZero 3 years ago 3
you guys are just stupid, just because they change around sound and a movie player means nothing. if you're good enough, you'd use RPG MAKER VX and create scenes yourself. it isn't that hard nor is it complicated. XP has sucky sprites and there aren't easy to find sprite makes either.
RDissidia 3 years ago
VX Fails in more areas that just the audio. It is inferior to XP, but...
XP does the same exact thing on my machine. The Triple Triad theme from FF8 MIDI plays fine in media player, but in XP, a lot of the sound is muted.
It also adds the echo sound that is noticeable in your video to all MIDI files.
But, I use mp3's for the most part. I don't have a map, battle, or event that uses a MIDI, all mp3. Gonna be a large game, I know xD
Check out my intro and demo on my channel!
BurningFetus 3 years ago
Liked the second better
obiwankenob 3 years ago
second version is better
LuizPrower 3 years ago
whats the point of a high quality version??? o.O
debo326 3 years ago
"the second one is noticeably crappier than the first"
Who gives a flying fuck!?
sparkydeltorro 3 years ago
Hmm...it seems to you just changed the soundfont of th midi.
VampyricalCurse 3 years ago
ah, good! :)
krononomikon 3 years ago
It is sometimes easier to work around a problem than to re-invent the wheel, especially to re-create an awesome tool like rpgmaker just to fix one problem, but using mp3 files is not a viable solution in every case. For those who actually want a solution, and are not just stupid flamers i see everywhere, look into making the ruby script talk to a com object. I'll post my progress as soon as I reach somewhere.
egknight26 3 years ago
ur a fuckn dooche
hypoglycemix 3 years ago
A videogame is about much more than just cool graphics. The audio is also very important. Cynon44 is obviously a person with audio experience (probably a musician), who would know how those snare drums are supposed to sound. So leave him alone if you don't understand what he is saying and just... shut up. I could also gripe about enterbrain but it's partially windows' fault with thier gm.dls file so I decided to light a candle. I'm currently researching a way to use dls files with rpgxp or vx
egknight26 3 years ago
lol take note that:
A. its 2D. are you honestly complaining? Its got shitty graphics, and like any other 2d game, has shitty sound as well. If it were a high def 3d game, then you may gripe and moan.
B. Sure its noticable, but it isnt unbearable.
C. sorry that your song wasnt imported properly. It sounded Really good. and yea, the rpg maker def like sucked the quality out. But you could still use it.
I dont think that audio is a good enough reason to rape this program with negative reviews.
FeedMEBabies 3 years ago
it's just different sound samples used for the midi... :( it would be really nice if you could just import your own to it, or better yet, if it had ogg vorbis support...
I don't follow rpg maker, so I don't know :)
krononomikon 3 years ago
i like second u like 1st we have oiur opinions o well
Yoshi1x8 3 years ago