Michael Horn debates Billy Meier's UFO encounters and predictions | Open Minds Radio

[donkiIIuminati]

Michael Horn faked UFO pictures just to sell more books.. Ask this stupid motherfucker as well. The radiohost is a retarded motherfucker too.. look at y'all stupid people

[donkiIIuminati]

DUMB ASS MOTHERFUCKERS

[donnydark2006]

Some will treat the Meier case with disdain because they've been trained to do so. In the Contact Notes narrated by Randy Winter, it was said that "Jewish Zionist extremists in conjunction with the Catholic Church have been committing acts of terror throughout the centuries for political control." It's true and this is why some try to debunk Billie Meier and because UFOlogy is controlled by Jews (and their lackeys).

[slooash]

People, you need to wake up. This man (MH) is a deceiver.

[symmetry08]

If people who do not want to or feel this is fake at the bottom of their heart, just don't believe in it. You are not ready and cannot recognize and discern the truth spiritually. This is not your time !

[jimbalino]

Also, I want to add that it is important to 'Like' idiot talk show host's shows that have cool people spreading truth like Micheal Horn because it makes Youtube draw more people to the show. And, really, who cares about Alejandro Rojas? If he succeeds or fails in life makes no difference to me.

[jimbalino]

Yeah, I'll never listen to this show either. Again, like the last new Michael Horn his host is a government disinfo specialist. GREAT JOB AGAIN MICHAEL! No one seems to be able to corner him on anything because he knows his stuff and the case is real. Perfect rep for the Billy Meier case!

[rayksharma]

It gets offensive listening to alejandro's ignorant questions. This guy is his worse own enemy. You are not on the same intellectual level as Horn and your ass comments 55-60 mins when u whine his info is not organized is child like....I will never listen to this show again

[benjamingord]

Michael Horn is mentally ill, a total charlatan, never answers a single question directly. The Meier case is beyond retarded, fake...phony fraud cult deluxe

[xxpistoleroxx]

lol... i feel bad for Mr. Rojas for being so ignorant to the billy meier case. If he only knew what extraordinary events had taken place on this earth to man living in switzerland.

[acat543]

Billy Meier speaks the truth!

[acat543]

@Dhaune Delusional and schizophrenic that's all you are,everyone can see your a gutless piece of shit!

[Dhaune]

hahaha, michael horn, tell me how much do they pay you to feed all those lies to the people?? you deserve to fucking die so does meier all of you are criminals, and you idiotic followers who believe all of this, let me tell you its a cult a personality cult you would be wise to listen to me, its all a lie!!!

[aboveknee]

don't watch this video, a total waste of time! It's real! no it's not!..I just sumed up the entire video, all done!

[MrThisismycelly]

is that aphex twin in the opening credits? im probably wrong, but it sounds spot on.

[Mrmorlam1]

After leaving a message like that "fucking delusional.etc..etc" I don't think anyone will be listening to you!

[acat543]

@electronicmedium Honestly your a fucking delusional zombie dickhead .BILLY MEIER has the proven evidence ,you just can't handle the truth,because your so deep in shit religiou's belief,that you can't see the light.I feel sorry for a total loser like you,who can't help but make an ass out of himself. WAKE UP and grow some ball's, and try and think for yourself, instead of listening to other dickhead delusional numskull's like yourself, that fail to recognize the real truth of BILLY MEIER.!!!

[MrThisismycelly]

@acat543 dont even waste your time on those that don't want to hear the truth.

[electronicmedium]

Honestly!!! Billy Meier is the biggest hoaxer ever.

[MultiGazman]

Honestly listening to this interview is just putting me to sleep,If you want to interview anyone on Billy Meier then speak to Randy Winters,He spent time with Billy(few can say that),Billy opened up to Randy! Type in Randy Winters here on youtube, Figu who now have claim to Billy`s visits are corrupted by the almighty dollar and are not to be trusted,this is why Randy left FIGU! I watched Micheal horns vids nothing new there. If you want to know the messages Billy got look up the pleiadians!

[rydubz7]

The meier case hasnt been about whether or not the evidence is real . Thats improvable .What is important is the spiritual information that came out of the case . If billy did make it up 90% of other contactees are simply copying meier's story .If you look at all the supposed info about et s they all corespond in some way to meiers claims .

[MrDavidj1973]

watch the youtube vid the billy meier hoax - an overview, both part 1 and 2

[narutocaprirequest2]

Michael Horn is wasting his time talking to this child

[rahkriga]

Why is Michael Horn looking at me like that????????

[Godcaligula1983]

@rahkriga cuz his a cunt

[Onetazien]

Meier took hundereds of pictures, many were stolen and falsified, and circling the internet as his, yet some of his most sharpest and clearest UFO photos still exist and they have been proven to be authentic over 30 years ago. It's a waste of time to focus on the pictures, it's not the bulk of what the Meier case is about. Most don't know even that Meier is a writer and a teacher.

[MrDavidj1973]

meier has some pics that seem real,but its all the hoaxed pics that tell the truth.

he developed a following after some good pics and when he couldnt get any more pics he started faking them to please his followers.

you have to be brain dead if you think that pic of the laser gun is real,or the dinosaur pics which were found in a book that he took a pic of.

the more you defend this fraud the more you show your gullibility,cults feed on that.people like yourself cant be helped,its pathetic.

[MrDavidj1973]

again,this gets frustrating,micheal horn cannot provide any proof for his claims thats a fact,he also ignores all the evidence of hoaxing and tries to explain it all away,he would make a great politician as he ignores all the facts and pushes his agenda religiously.have you listened to the paracast interview where horn ignores the evidence of hoaxing in a pic off meiers site and just keeps talking crap.

and yes,when i was a ufo newbie i studied meiers case,and the fact is this is a ufo cult.

[Onetazien]

As MH pointed out many times here, many will be surprised, once they read the truth for themselves, that all so-called debunking "facts" perputated by unwitting disinfo agents or those with false information and obviously haven't studied the material, don't correlate to the actual facts of the case.

Read Gary Kinder's investigative book about Meier called Light Years free on the web.

[MrDavidj1973]

i really dont care what meier has to say, i judge him on his actions and not his words.

the facts are that figu is a cult,it takes money from its members,it has a religious doctrine and it has a guru,they are the facts.

any monkey with half a brain can see he faked a shitload of pics, and he had help doing it.

also his own wife said that he was hoaxing and faking pics.

listen to the paracast interview and listen where horn doesnt address the fake pic on meiers website,he just keeps bullshitting.

[MrDavidj1973]

@MrDavidj1973

you meier disciples are just like any other belief system, your main doctrine is "dont bother me with the facts,my mind is already made up"

all you ufo newbies that BELIEVE meiers "teachings" are pathetic.

belief and facts are 2 totally different things.

the ufo field is full of disinfo,but that doesnt mean its all disinfo.

do you throw away all your money because there is counterfeit money ?

and then there is meiers claim that he is the reincarnation of jesus !

come on !

[Onetazien]

It is bad for the UFO field and so-called experts, in the sense that, if everyone truly studied the Meier case they will discover that UFOLOGY is a huge disinfo campaign that isn't about bringing the truth to the people, and they all will go out of business.

And those who read Meier's stance against CULTS and BELIEF can only luagh at the baseless accusations, based on hearsay and pseudo investigation.

[MrDavidj1973]

i am a ufo/abduction researcher and meiers hoaxes bring this field down in a big way.

nobody worth their salt in this field takes meiers case seriously,its only the newbies that believe his crap.

his cult has followers that BELIEVE his crap,the key word here is BELIEVE,that requires faith and no evidence at all,horn is such a bullshit artist and will do anything to protect his belief system.

go to the paracast .com and go through their archives and listen to horns responses to their questions.

[MrDavidj1973]

micheal horn is so full of crap he should be a politician.

there is an interview where david biedny,an expert in photo analysis points out all the proof of hoaxing in one of meiers pics and micheal horn the turd never addresses them at the paracast . com july 11 2006

horn is just another billy meier cultist that profits by selling billy meier crap like dvds etc,there are so many hoaxed pics that meier has released its laughable.

what kind of idiot believes meiers crap.

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

YES OF COURSE "our definition of android...." have we reached the stage of creating bio-organic androids ?of course not so obviously our explanation of the term wont give any further insights . all it takes is donors to create the bio life form, then in the material its claimed around the 21st day the spirit form animates the feutus

well they seem to have gotten far enough along in there spiritual sciences to stop the spirit form entering & so leaving a bio-organic android.. thats just my guess

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

actual human bodys but NOT clones.. and i meant they aint robots like you said they were.. they are BIO ORGANIC ANDROIDS .. MAJOR DIFFERENCE..

im not an authority but if you paid attention at all you would notice its not my pearls of wisdom but that of the spiritual teaching ..nothing to do with religon or other delusional teachings.. and you can find it in the treasure throve that is the meier case , tha ONLY proven [scientific] contact case.. not that many can do the real research it takes!

[mrjollyrich76]

@DEBRISTHEREOF You're correct, you have no pearls of wisdom just spiritual teaching, which implies you are a follower of a religion, or a believer of sorts. Rarely (IMO.) are any beliefs or religions founded on truth or fact. I have the opinion it's the same in the Meier case.

I think it's best if we agree to disagree on this one my friend, my minds made up on Horn and Meier,

and i'm a stubborn SOB when i've chosen a path.

All the best for the future.

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

@mrjollyrich76 never was religious in any way,religions are cults while the spiritual teaching is a teaching of life and the truth of re-incarnation ..nothing else but thats the typical response of a know it all! "a believer" haa the spiritual teaching is about creating wisdom through gathered & tested knowledge while religion is a blind belief in gods/angels/demons/saints/chan­nellers/mediums and other deluded 1s i taught billy was a fake, just like edgar mitchell i changed my mind in the end

[MJ12DAVE]

WEDDING CAKE PHOTO - If you believe that photo is real and PROOF of UFOs, PLEASE stick your head in the strike zone and take one for the team. Enough of Billy. I for one want to kick his one arm non-shaving fraudulent ass!

[MJ12DAVE]

FRAUD - examining all of the UFO photos taken by Meier which are part of the Wendelle Stevens collection, it is the assessment that some of them are 100% fabricated, and therefore must be deemed hoaxes. None of the craft photographed exhibit any type of field propulsion distortion adds to this conclusion. Keeping in mind the physical properties of scale it appears that some the purported Meier photos appear to be small scale models which have been suspended in front of the camera.

[EartherZero]

That Meier has been at the UFO hoaxing game for many years is without question. That many of his photos and videos have been proven to be faked also cannot be denied. Meier is a long time UFO cultist.

[sparkloweb]

I don't trust anyone who speaks like a cross between Richard Hoagland and a Christian minister. Not to mention all of the textbook NLP. ("How would you feel if it were real?" etc.)

[90122123769462375608]

the fact is we have little time fact or fiction take your pick i have . lol

[acat543]

I know one thing for sure micheal horn is right and Alejandro Rojas is a moron!

[mrjollyrich76]

@acat543 I disagree, Alejandro did an excellent interview and gave Horn every opportunity to address the questions put to him. If you're pro Meier/Horn you should thank Alejandro for allowing him on the show,

insulting him for no good reason makes you sound like you're trolling.

[misterbig290]

its kinda odd that horn is a spokesperson for meier.why doesnt meier pass along this info himself.besides that what does horn care if anyone believes this info or not.i dont seewhy horn is connected tothis.he talks about people who have been abducted as almost insane and he bad mouths other people in the ufo field.he is not a good willed person that has allterior motives going on with this whole subject.good job alehandro with giving him very hard questions and not just eating up horns bullshit.

[Onetazien]

@misterbig290 "why doesnt meier pass along this info himself."

Meier is passing it along himself. He sarted FIGU. He's written 48 books and have about 7 volumes of contact notes (500 pages each). However, Billy doesn't want to be a zoo attraction.

"he (MH) bad mouths other people in the ufo field."

MH was just giving info from Billy and actually it is so-called UFO experts in UFOlogy that reject him.

It was a good interview and if you listened MH tackled those questions great.

[misterbig290]

@Onetazien first of all i wasnt asking u ..nor do i care what u have to think or say.i know all about billy meier and what he wrote and did. i guess this starts to look a little like a casg cow being that billy wrote 48 books etc.i believe in aliens im not saying i dont believe or do believe i just think its odd that horn is talking on meiers behalf.if billy has all the info out why use horn?anyways i am not asking u these questions im just saying this outloud.rater to billy horn and open mind r

[Onetazien]

@misterbig290 well, obviously your presumptions are wrong.

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

C`MON !!!!!! ... alejandro has`nt a clue of the facts ... travis walton ...more evidence??

open minds...i think not!

[Onetazien]

M Horn tells it according to the facts of the case, even if it may sound "weak", he presents the truth as it is, nothing more nothing less. Everything he mentioned is documented, that makes him genuine and trustworthy.

[mrjollyrich76]

@Onetazien Michael Horn has his life too deeply invested in this hoax,

that makes Horn totally biased and untrustworthy, in my opinion. And any 'facts' or 'truthes' he mentions have already proven to be false IMO.

Anyone can document a lie, it's easy enough.

[Onetazien]

MH "invested" over 30 years of research into the Billy Meier Case. So he's spouting information based on what he know and learned, with his insights, reasoning and undrstanding.

"And any 'facts' or 'truthes' he mentions have already proven to be false IMO."

Your opinion is false.

"Anyone can document a lie, it's easy enough"

It's not about "documents", it's about documented, prophetic and scientifically accurate INFORMATION contained in the contact notes.

[mrjollyrich76]

@Onetazien That's right Horn invested over 30 years of research, and i would bet about 20 of those were spent trying to convince people Billy Meier is not a hoaxer. But he is a hoaxer, this is just my opinion 'o' course and that's all your comment contained,

your opinion nothing more.

Peace.

[mda102508]

At 47:53 ,The reference about The "Mass mind Influence " and the possible causal effects of the future is very insightful if Written in Oct of 1978 while, this Paradigm has gained much ground in mainstream just within the past few years.

[plasmaarmelund]

Michael Horn is a complete tool. I can't believe you guys are wasting your time on this guy.

[cnblv2008]

Where is Billy Meier now? How is he? He is still alive. I'm sure people would like to hear straight from him, from someone who actually experienced the event, instead of a representative.

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

@cnblv2008 billy speaks to anyone who goes over ...the problem is ufologists are know it all fools 

[mrjollyrich76]

@BuildYourMind I wouldn't think they would be interested in our women in that way,

they don't have sexual organs.

And it would be too dangerous for them to have sex with an human woman anyway.......

The risk of the ET's or earth-women catching an STD would be huge, given the difference in biology and such. LOL! Though i agree with your point, it wouldn't matter to some women (Or men.) which planet a person came from, as long as they were loaded.......Sad but true. : )

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

@mrjollyrich76 who says they have no sexuall organs ... the e.ts from roswell were bio-organic androids .. with no reproductive organs.. and no evolutive spirit form , read the contact reports future of mankind.com

[mrjollyrich76]

@DEBRISTHEREOF I'm not sure if they do or don't have the tools we do to reproduce. One thing i am sure of though, is that they would have an evolutionary spirit.

All life has. And an android is a robot, a machine, not a life-force. A bio-organic life-form like the one you describe could be a GM clone with a brain implant, a cyborg or clone in short, but not an android.

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

@mrjollyrich76 NO nothing to do with "a clone" they aint machines either ..they have a human conciousness and in fact are exact replica of humans which the plejaren use also ..its just they have NO spirit form.. and there lives were reduced to 300 yrs they have free will and decide themselves what work to do its just they cant further their wisdom/knowledge and spiritual related evolution over countless spiritual incarnations !

[mrjollyrich76]

@DEBRISTHEREOF Your logic is not sound. It was you that mentioned "androids", look at the definition of the word 'android' and you will find it means a 'robot' or 'automaton'. And how can they be an exact 'replica' of a human but not be a clone?

Again look at the definition of the word 'clone', and you will find that it means to 'replicate' something.

And why do you like to think of yourself as an authority on the evolutionary processes of the living spirit?

Can you prove anything you say?

[DEBRISTHEREOF]

@mrjollyrich76 the contact report its mentioned is 215.. future of mankind.com has the latest english translations , but if youre new to the reports and the material start at the begining .. first you gotta be satisfied with the evidence which theres no shortage of... james in england done a great job with his site future of mankind.com which is the largest english lang` database for the case.. witness statements are all there and watch the movie contact in my playlist

[edfeltch]

Like oilychan,why bother,damaged goods.

[ALVAREZZ3000]

Hey Alejandro, you guys should have Michael Horn at the 2012 UFO congress.

[Oilychan]

Horn is a patronizing ***** - Alejandro how could you give this guy all this air time??

[TimoDcTheLikelyLad]

@BuildYourMind modern girls are like that even when they say "no im an exception"... most just want a famous, bigmouthed, egoist, man that wants all the attention... so sad this society

[ar4216]

Alejandro is right to be skeptical and not act like a true believer. I would have been bummed if Alejandro wasn't extremely skeptical of Meier.

[TheHaunebub2]

I´m sorry Alejandro, in this case you are more than sceptic.

The book publish dates and Meiers solarsystem data are legitimate and a proof for this case.

[jimmypinch]

I thought Alejandro would go easy on him but he ploughs right into him, well done Alejandro you do a good job.

[TheHaunebub2]

at 46:00 thats a point for Horn

[SuperMike921]

that laser gun had me laughing sooooo hard. hahahaha

[SuperMike921]

dude this guy is soooo fake. keep up the good work guys. PLEASE look into the whole elenin nibiru theory. I know it's not really ufo linked but I would really like some credited sources on this subject.

[mrjollyrich76]

By the look and sound of Michael Horn, he has his whole life invested in the credibility of Billy Meier.

That makes him (In my opinion.) totally biased and untrustworthy. Every argument he makes for Meier is weak, and made even weaker when you look at the pathetic video footage and pictures taken by Meier. If anything his efforts bring this hoax into the light. Thanks for posting guys. : )

[hoosierhiver]

@mrjollyrich76 I agree, what's the guy supposed to say, "I wasted my whole life believing a lie"

[mrjollyrich76]

@hoosierhiver He already said that, without saying it (If you know what i mean.). Thanks man.

[TheMass33]

I thought you guys were abducted. Have not seen ya in a while.

[mda102508]

At 47:53 ,The reference about The "Mass mind Influence " and the possible causal effects of the future is very insightful if Written in Oct of 1978 while, this Paradigm has gained much ground in mainstream just within the past few years.