Waseela in ISlam--Making Dua to the death???

[SimpleTruthIslam]

wasila is totaly haram lol

[akamran1]

asalamalkum brother. you have quoted alot of versies from the holy quran but there is no explanation of the verses. you cant take quran without tafsir/hadith to support the meaning of the verses. As our beloved prophet pbuh left two beautiful things, quran and hadith! You cannot take quran without hadith, this is how problems occur!! your intention may be good and may allah s.t reward you for it. But if you dont believe in wasila, dont do it. But there is no shirk or bida involved in this.

[babadada1000]

@irooni100 The above Noble Verses clearly state that Muslims must not think that Martyrs are dead. They are raised to Allah Almighty in Heaven, and they are rejoicing the Bounty and Grace that is provided by Allah Almighty to them. This is what it means. and i totally agree with it. One more thing that i mentioned b4. when prophet mohammad was alive we could ask him to ask forgiveness for us I Totally have no objection against it, because he was closer to Allah than others.

[babadada1000]

But when he died no one of sahaba's went to his grave and asked him. This is a simple thing i dont know why u dont understand it. Allah swt i am close to u. So why dont we ask him instead of a dead person.

[babadada1000]

@babadada1000 There is a tafsir of those two verses which u have quoted. I cannot copy it here on youtube. This is the website u will learn there wht it really means.. ww w.qtafsir.co m.

[irooni100]

@baba

if we only have to bow to Allah ,& Worship him Then Why did Allah ordered the Angles to Bow to ADAM(AS) ?

THE QURAN 2;34

وَإِذۡ قُلۡنَا لِلۡمَلَـٰٓٮِٕكَةِ ٱسۡجُدُواْ لِأَدَمَ فَسَجَدُوٓاْ إِلَّآ إِبۡلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَٱسۡتَكۡبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ ٱلۡكَـٰفِرِينَ (٣٤)

.2;34 And when We said unto the angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He demurred through pride, and so became a disbeliever. (34)

PLEASE EXPLAIN

[irooni100]

@baba

You said;"when prophet mohammad was alive we could ask him to ask forgiveness for us "

So What is your Answer to the Hadith i posted?

In Which Abu bakir & Ali(AS) are talking to his DEAD BODY ?Are they Commiting Shirk? Naozobillah !

Abu bakir told THE DEAD BODY OF RASULALLAH(SAWA),

.may may father and mother be sacrificed for you ,Please remember Us in at your presence of your Lord .

DID HE COMMIT SHIRK ?

I POSTED THE REFERENCES,GO BACK & READ WHAT AYISHA HAS SAID.

[irooni100]

AALE EMRAAN 169-171

Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay they live finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord. (169)

[irooni100]

Sura Alnisa # 64

We sent not an Messenger but to be obeyed, in accordance with the Will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves come unto thee and asked Allah's forgiveness and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-Returning, Most Merciful. (

The Quran And The Rasulallah and his Family (SAWA) are For US ,and FOR EVER.

[irooni100]

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَابْتَغُوا إِلَيْهِ الْوَسِيلَةَ . المائدة / 35

[babadada1000]

@irooni100you who believe, you shall reverence GOD and seek the ways and means to Him, and strive in His cause, that you may succeed, which means through praying reciting Quran striving hard in the way of ALLAH. not by worshipping and asking Awliya.

[irooni100]

@babadada1000

Worshiping Any one other than ALLAH is wrong & Shirk ,my brother, But Using the Awliya is recommended by ALLAH Himself ,As you see in sura Alnisa #64.

Are you saying that Allah is ordering the sinner to Commit SHIRK (Naozobillah) ,when he tells them;If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves come unto thee .&The Awliya will Guide us BY EZNELLAH.

Were the Christians at the time of ISA(AS) Mushrik,when they ask ISA to heal them? Do Quran call them MUSHRIK ?

[babadada1000]

@irooni100 Did any sahaba aske prophet when he died? The answer is way too easy NO.. U keep quoting Quran so let me show u a verse says "You alone do we worship, and You alone do we ask for help". That is sufficient.

A request brother, DONT TRY TO GIVE AN ANSWER BACK JUST DO A RESEARCH ON IT. READ THE QURAN AND AUTHENTIC SOURCES B4 U REPLY.

[irooni100]

@baba

Is Asking any one is considered as SHIRK to you ,Why do you go to a DOCTOR ,when you get Sick,Brother ? Why dont you just Allah to heal you ? Is he not the one who made you SICK in the first place ? Why do you ask your Father to give you food or Money ? Are you committing SHIRK ? Why dont you ask Allah to give you what you want ?

Brother Those you NEED are the Wasilah ,TOOLS to get what you want,Same goes for Forgiveness,They all do that by EZNELLAH ( Permission of ALLAH).

UNDERSTAND?

[babadada1000]

@irooni100 u r absolutly on the wrong path. BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT U SAY ......

I can ask u to make dua for me and u can ask me there is no problem with it. But when a person is dead. The case is closed we can pray for him not to him. The comment u made is really funny about doctor, food, anyway the answer is here in the quran chapter 16 verse 43.

[omarshah29]

in the below statement. please let me make one thing clear. the ahadith sentence which i quoted or mentioned below was in context to the fact that AFTER THE DEATH OF OUR BELOVED LEADER, THE LEADERS OF LEADER MUHAMMED PBUH, none of the sahabis or tabains or tabe tabains took his wasila..

[omarshah29]

Thanks Brother.

Taking the Wasila of any person as long as he is alive.. e.g. - you can ask any pious person alive to pray for ur welfare and etc then it is allowed. Even in all the authentic Ahadith books, no where is it given stating that the companions of the prophet (who are the best of walis) did not take muhammed PBUH wasila for any matter because he was dead.

May Allah guide me and all muslims to the right path. thanks..Jazak Allah.

[imam14ma3soom1994]

4:64: And We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by permission of Allah . And if, when they wronged themselves, they had come to you, [O Muhammad], and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Accepting of repentance and Merciful.

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[zzohaibmalik]

thank u brother may ALLAH give u best of reward,,

[zzohaibmalik]

May ALLAH give u best of reward for sharing this..jazakALLAH

[hikmat2359]

jazak allah khairan brother thankyou for sharing ....thankx.

[momoG]

Mashallah

[bthtariq]

Thanks brother for sharing up!!!