Super Street Fighter 4 Tutorial Chapter 10 Part 2

[NightmareBA]

So what if I use a character like Dudley but his normal uppercut doesn't have invincibility frames?

[KingofPho75]

correct me if im wrong but this doesnt work on shotos right since you cant safe jump on them.

[darkcg79]

Hey Vesper, how did you record reversals for your opponents?

[Hillebrand1]

So, isn't this a major flaw of charge characters? Because they can't do a jump-in option select with a charge move?

Or am I wrong?

[MistaGhost13]

@Hillebrand1 See thats what I was thinking, honda can do buffer option select into hands but thats the only one i can think of that any charge character can do :S

[VietnaMe3]

i keep on getting a shoryuken when i try to connect hard punch to medium punch

[Dynastyie]

Vesper personal question how do u stop a honda sumo throw loop jumping medium punch into light punch then sumo throw with ibuki cause if I block I get sumo thrown if I jump back I get ex sumo splashed and if I dash foward I get hit and if I have no meter I can't anti air the meaty jumping medium so if u can answer this plz help cause my friend keeps getting me with this and calls it the "perry loop" which is probably one of the cheapest guessing in the game lol

[bumfire007]

I not sure how the jumping hard kick rising jaguar kick crouching light punch option select beat wake up ultra throw or that is just for honda.

[candylemonpie]

ok this is cool~ but with could i do with juri or other characters without high priority moves like uppercuts? im pretty sure any of my cartwheel kicks or projectile kicks would easily be beat in these situations~

[mattytattoo1]

how would you do the os special for a charge character? wouldnt you loose your charge if you did that?

[82redzone]

he just spilled the beans on how to beat honda lol sorry mike ross

[Tsherman100]

does this wrk with charge characters



[1shaughness2]

can you os cody's u2?

[rmnhn]

akuma looks awesome in a hoodie. XD

[HJayZ91]

how come when Honda wakes up with Ultra 2, the Rising Jaguar didn't just come out and beat it? Adon whiffed the jumping HK on him, is there different properties if the wake up with super or ultra?

[53329]

@HJayZ91 hmm. i wondered the same thing, the jumping hk didn't hit him because of his invulnerable ultra frames, so the leniency for the rising jaguar must have ran out and all he had time to do was jump and use his own ultra. that's the best i can figure anyways.

[danni13371]

@53329

The Rising Jaguar didn't come out because he used the U2 in the middle of the jumping attack, which starts up an animation, which means that he didn't have time to land and do the Rising Jaguar. So this option select shut down all of his moves, but even more so with U2 because it gives him more of an option to punish U2 afterwards.

[53329]

@danni13371 I was wondering about yesterday. the only thing I can come up with is: honda's ultra 2 started up before the input for rising jaguar was finished. this happens all the time online. sometimes you see videos of people doing a combo with a super at the end and even though the opponent died the super comes out. and other times when you go and look at the inputs the opponent died too quickly and the game won't accept inputs anymore. so you'll see a DCF and no punch button. get it?

[53329]

@danni13371 because if it was like you said, the jumping hard kick would have missed (making the optional rising jaguar to come out) and honda's ultra would have started but adon's rising jaguar either would have hit honda or gotten grabbed depending on if adon has a recessive blue hitbox present during that attack.

[danni13371]

@53329

All supers and ultras have some start-up frames. You can also cancel a move into a super, and during the start-up frames the input for the super will be made and then it'll go into super, even if the opponent is KO'd already.

I play Fei Long, and sometimes I hit with the very last frame or so of the Rekka's forward movement, and if I have timed the input for the next Rekka just right, then another Rekka can come out even if the opponent is KO'd. It's pretty cool to see.

[danni13371]

@53329

Also, ultras completely unables your opponent from performing any actions whatsoever, and as you can see in this video, the ultra 2 was used as he was in the air, thereby not giving the other player any time to start his Rising Jaguar move, therefore it doesn't come out. It's not incredibly hard to understand, but might be a little complicated.

[53329]

@danni13371 I really don't know you guys. it seems like i'm making it way too complicated but the reason i said that is because my opponent would use an ultra the same time i would input a special move and i would start blocking thinking it wouldn't come out because the ultra doesn't allow it. but it would always come out anyways. and at the ultra 1 you hear adon scream when he lands. i think i'm done with this cause i can't figure it out but someone could tell me when they know for sure!

[ragna06]

Does this also applies for charge characters?

Thanks for the video.

[DEPROGRAMMEDMMX]

Does this option select work for Sakura as well? For example j.Roundhouse into shoryuken.

[gnarrek]

Extremely useful tutorial, thank you very much.

[dkfalco76]

i just notice how small adon hands are

[inmyrainbowcemetery]

Vesper great video but I was practising this in training mode with Rose vs Ryu and I have a question. I was trying j.roundhouse into Soul Spiral option select and it worked like you said: if he backdashed he ate the Spiral but if he blocked it didn't come out (which is obv fine). But he can dragon punch my jumping roundhouse negating the whole thing. Is it that the j.roundhouse isnt "meaty" enough? like I'm doing it too early? thanks.

[Killeykun]

@inmyrainbowcemetery Typically for a jumping attack OS you do the jumping attack as deep as possible so that if they do a reversal you will land and block in time but if they do nothing the jumping attack hits or they block it. Unfortunately, this doesn't apply against the DP of Ryu, Ken, and Akuma because it comes out faster before you can land. Some characters have a jumping attack that will beat the DP if you space it so that it hits their head instead so they can OS that way.

[kingofthesharks]

i think i saw you use negative edge for viper's FFF combo. was wondering if thats the best/easiest/standard method for executing it? i still cant do it consistently...

[cartmanshome]

if someone focus your jump in does that count as a miss or a hit. so eg. adon would the rising jaguar come out of the lp?

[VesperArcade]

@cartmanshome You cannot reversal a focus.

[TheDimsh]

@cartmanshome counts as hit

[u63mc]

Who the hell thumbed these videos down?!? You're like the great magician who reveals all his tricks, loving these vids

[BTangPhailZ]

amazing video vesper, earned my subscription =D.

[delchavez]

Vesper, thanks for finally clearing up the OS thing for me. I have always wondered what in the hell all these tourney pros were talking about. It might take me a few months to work this into my game, but damn, you sure lifted the fog on this one. Cheers!

[kaniverjayz]

This godlike tutorial is beyond godlike.

[cmysharingan]

Great Vids :)

[ibeplu]

thanks for the matchup info

[nbbicon]

is the jumping option select like a safe jump?

[Tonedef5959]

Game 2, Round 2 Evo2k9, Mike Ross ate 3 consecutive Adon OS vs Gamerbee's Adon.

[TroyLondon2]

Thank alot Vesper :) i needed this.

[SquallLion90]

I main VesperArcade in SSF4.

[VesperArcade]

@SquallLion90 Wow, I thought I was the only one who mained him.

[Quebert69]

@VesperArcade : He's God tier, didn't you know?

[swordzzzzz]

@SquallLion90 But you have to reach 30K BP with all chars :O

[BLASTTHEFOOL]

options selects for charge characters ?

[kinome23]

@BLASTTHEFOOL seriously i feel like bison has none

[BentoBox]

@kinome23 There's OS slide and OS roundhouse to catch Backdash... And that's about it :P

[BentoBox]

@kinome23 There's OS slide and OS roundhouse to catch Backdash... And that's about it :P You can also OS his Ultras, to catch backdashes

[ThePsychoCrusher89]

dam Vesper how'd you get to be soo S rank?

[skillustrates]

@ThePsychoCrusher89 Mash DP

[Mystic711]

Dammit Vesper, I have to admit I would not be the player I am today without these videos man.

[TroyLondon2]

@Mystic711 i totally agree.

[andyrccar]

thanks vesper

[YuriBo26]

Hey Vesper, I ain't that pro ssf4, maybe a lil mediocre you can say xD, but, I am a Rose player, and one thing I always asked myself.... Am I stupid or Rose just don't have that much option selects? There is a big chance that I am just stupid :p.

P.s.: It's true that they are gonna call SSFIV of Chocolate after AE become the main SF? I prefer mint >.>

[Nafly2K9]

Thanks for this vesper it really helps