There are dozens of electrical bikes like this in The Netherlands and very popular. Their price is reasonably low but an electric engine that lasts for years is very hard to find. I had an electrical scooter and it was not strong enough either. Their speed is 15,5 ml/hr (faster then this at the pedals) and you do not need insurance or a helmet. The rider on this bike needs a motorbike helmet, ski helmets are illegal. This is a no-go and can't do. Will this be a good motorbike is another thought.
The price will make sure this thing never becomes a main stream product, except may be in europe. if you are going to make a sustanability centred product whats the point of making it so hard to afford? Thats my opinion as an engineer.
its an awesome concept. ive got a sport bike but love to mountain bike so it would be perfect for around town or riding on a nice day. but for that price id rather buy a hummer or a ducati. im not going green if i have to pay that much to do it
hear hear! why the hell is this thing so expensive? the price tag alone shows the developer had no intent of being green. poor people pollute too, you know.
My opinion.......This bike is just a simple engineering, it is a low speed generator (taken from homebuilt wind turbine design) chained to a modified brushless motor ( say permanent magnet brushless motor) and there you goes.....i believe there is nothing new or spectacular on this..... this should not be that expensive..... i think i can build one myself....or anybody can build this one also.......just browse the net and you have all the things you needed. Peace!
you might be right on this one, my point was to highlight that drawing from the wall is not emission free but masses of emissions come from power stations and they supply the charge. So until power stations are purely solar (for e.g.) charging is not emission free. The other thing is that of course much depends on the cars we would compare, small engined ones or large. Then again the CO2 problem is also not understood. CO2 is not bad, just far too much of it is, and that's what we have to fight
at 0.40 she states that the pedalling also charges up the bike's battery and many reports are suggesting that this is the prime charge.The pedalling charge might be enough to move it a few inches. 99% or more is from the wall charge. Re emissions, I think you will agree (and the other guy also meant) that we are talking about CO2, cell phones to the best of my knowledge don't emit CO2. The prime feature of this bike is the pedal action instead of a throttle. Otherwise it's like any other e-bike.
Shoddy reporting. It's not pedal powered for speed, pedaling only governs the accelerator and slightly helps to top off the battery.
They needed to ask its average range per battery charge, how green is the bike (many battery driven vehicles have creation/disposal issues), and a host of other important questions.
I'd love a bicycle that could be purely human powered up to 50mph. This isn't it.
That is what has happened to computer technology. As the consumer base grows the number of venders grows, and with that the innovators step up with better technology and more efficient manufacturing technology. And that results in lower manufacturing costs, and lower cost to consumers, while at the same time continuing to allow manufacturers to makep a reasonable profit.
It's great, practical green technology. But what's up with the price? It's bullsh*t. If he is serious about the invention changing the way people think about eco-friendly transport, he will find a way to reduce this cost by an order of magnitude. If not, someone else will!
I commute to work by bicycle, 11 miles each way. With an erockit I could cycle 50 miles each way. I hope it is mass produced and very soon, I WANT ONE. Just one question, is it safe?
The guy is a genius and should be applauded for creating such a fantastic invention. I hope one day (soon) there are thousands of these type of vehicles on the road. I couldn't afford one but you never know, maybe Toyota and Honda are watching and come up with something like it.
apewings: sure, it is useful like anything that is electric. My points were different ones. It was assumed that this bike was charged by peddeling. It isn't. The charge coming from the pedals is so little as to be totally insignificant. The pedals are merely an alternative throttle, no more. The unit is charged from the mains supply. The other thing was that slydewinder assumed there were no emissions which is also incorrect. The power station has high emissions. Those were my points.
big friggin!! deal... It's a moped. I thought we had progressed to the point where we didn't need to pedal...a motorcycle for example. A huge step backwards and at an insane price.
I don't care what anyone says this is a great idea. Takes up less space, tears up the road less, "0" immissions. works for me. No passive restaints OMG! just like any bike, motered or otherwise. Cost can be brought down by mass productiion.
( Trek?) and it's not like there;s a shortage of factory space, or workers looking for a jobs. This could be a freaking goldmine in California alone.
big friggin!! deal... It's a moped. I thought we had progressed to the point where we didn't need to pedal...a motorcycle for example. A huge step backwards and at an insane price.
slydewinder: unfortunately you've fallen for the classic error. "0 emissions". This bike was charged up over night... perhaps all night. Where did that power come from? Right, the mains socket in a house. Magic supply of power coming from a wall? Naa... a festering great power station down the road emitting tons of CO2, and so the emissions are hidden, but still there. If a million of the blessed things were charged overnight the emissions would be spectacular. Therefore sadly not 0 emissions.
I've got it, what I save in gas I get snatched from me on the price tag. I don't think anyone is expecting him to give them away, but give me a break, $44,000.00 I say he should back off that crack pipe and take a look at reality. This is another example of greed over shadowing a sane mind. Keep your fancy bike I'll stick to trying to peddle my fat but up the hills on my $75.00 bike.
Its not greed. he has a right to charge as high as people are welling to pay for it. If you don't want it, don't buy it. You have no right to have it.
So... you can? I bet you'd outright fail to design the electronics behind acceleration, or building a strong enough, custom battery pack...
The there's also labor involved in designing and building it.
Then you need to get it street legal. You can't simply build your own vehicle and drive around in it in Germany. You have to abide by a lot of laws and have it checked by TÜV. That whole process could easily account for half of the build costs...
alright fine...but here we now have a solution to alternative transport (at least for bike riders) and nobody's helping this guy produce it cheaper? No big companies are trying to reproduce this cheaply? The complacency is disgusting..Seems to me we get something like this and the whole planet should move into action around it...
There are a lot of problems with this concept, e.g. a total lack of any kind of passive or active safety, no storage compartment whatsoever, etc.
It also has the same basic problem that all EVs share, that is a lack of cheap, durable and safe battery capacity. Until that is solved, they should concentrate on overcoming the other problems I mentioned.
Though I don't see the necessary incentive to research battery technology on behalf of this project alone.
Just because you pedal it in order to make it move doesn't mean it has to have two wheels (ever heard of a tricycle or quadcycle?) Trikes and quads could be enclosed and have more safety if you're afraid that you might spaz and fall or someone would hit you. And pedaling it generates electricity which charges batteries so they LAST LONGER. Seriously man, instead of just downing this guy's ideas, try to come up with an improvement.
It's not that I don't like it. It's a neat little toy. But it's not the solution for our transportation problem.
ps: No matter what you do, passive safety will always add weight. Material that deforms and empty space where it deforms into.
pps: A human can sustain deliver a sustained power of about 0.3 HP by paddeling. That's not really a lot compared to what you need to get around the city with reasonable speed ;)
marketing & misleading. riDDimann hits it on the head. 0.3 watts or less will not charge or run a 9kW (9000 watts) motor. So what will? The mains. The damn thing is charged by the mains for some 4 hours. But they talk as if you are pedalling and generating that power. Rubbish. The only difference is that the pedal action has been configured to act like an accelerator, and the guy explains that too... but he fails to say, "and my zapping around the city is the result of a 4 hour charge up".
cool invention! if i had the money i would gave him 10mil USD for his RnD and this could be the main transport for developing countries where the public transport sucks!
just using ur leg power, no more gas/petrol and its a healthy exercise plus !
There are dozens of electrical bikes like this in The Netherlands and very popular. Their price is reasonably low but an electric engine that lasts for years is very hard to find. I had an electrical scooter and it was not strong enough either. Their speed is 15,5 ml/hr (faster then this at the pedals) and you do not need insurance or a helmet. The rider on this bike needs a motorbike helmet, ski helmets are illegal. This is a no-go and can't do. Will this be a good motorbike is another thought.
AlfredMoi 1 month ago
The price will make sure this thing never becomes a main stream product, except may be in europe. if you are going to make a sustanability centred product whats the point of making it so hard to afford? Thats my opinion as an engineer.
KOGR11 3 months ago 2
Its a good bike, but with that money i can buy like 7 bikes that reach 400km/h
paszkarobert 10 months ago
assholes this is amazing this means no fucking global warming this is brilliant i bet its gonna cast a fortune....
islandmusic670 11 months ago
Sooooooooo, you have to petal, but it doesn't have to be designed that way?
axelasdf 1 year ago
I can see so many people pedaling into corners at 80kph in these things, clipping the pedals and killing themselves.
Psolian 1 year ago
For 9000 USD you can buy a full functioning electric motorbike and save the peddling.
Zooni2 1 year ago
dude this german inventor can speak english fluently! And when he does, he's got the funniest character! No is not his accent! he's just damn funny!
zemen51 1 year ago
this thing costs too much to be a revolution.
dmx011 2 years ago
so ein Mist! :D
da redet er schon deutsch und denn wirds ins englische übersetzt :D
SelbstProduktion 2 years ago
have it made in china then sale it here for like 4 thousand. and that guy is a dumb ass only green he cares about is the 45000.
thomasjsh 2 years ago
I would love to see this moved onto small cars, it would be kind of like the flinstones but it would be great :D
icedogg420 2 years ago
Porra esse alemão é muito doido. Vou compra uma bike dessas para sair com as mina.
pich10 2 years ago
Awsome! Where can I get my hands on one?
Vespahipcat 2 years ago
Can you tell me if riding the machine keeps the battery charged up or do you need to top it up ?
tyroy57 2 years ago
someone will snap it up and make it cheaper
tyroy57 2 years ago 13
Absolutely! the beauty of a competitive market place in a capitalistic system. All consumers can benefit from this.
upcycle 2 years ago
its an awesome concept. ive got a sport bike but love to mountain bike so it would be perfect for around town or riding on a nice day. but for that price id rather buy a hummer or a ducati. im not going green if i have to pay that much to do it
ryanwhiteaker 2 years ago
this is for looooooosers
either way be sporty and get on a pushbike ,. OR get a decent motorbike
for that amount you can have AND a great pushbike , AND a FAB motorbike
so .... that is even "greener" on your budget
blackleatherbikerams 2 years ago
Moron...
schellwardee 2 years ago
i like it but it way too expensive, you can't be green whit that price.
yohanbab 2 years ago 2
hear hear! why the hell is this thing so expensive? the price tag alone shows the developer had no intent of being green. poor people pollute too, you know.
analogWeapon 2 years ago
On daily planet, they said the price was 12 000 euros.. Still too much for most.
luc59457 2 years ago
Flintstones Technology, i like it
ScientologySucksAss 2 years ago
GOD BLESS GERMANY
mesmerizeme 2 years ago 10
@mesmerizeme shit i wouldant go that far ,,
ratrodralphy 11 months ago
My opinion.......This bike is just a simple engineering, it is a low speed generator (taken from homebuilt wind turbine design) chained to a modified brushless motor ( say permanent magnet brushless motor) and there you goes.....i believe there is nothing new or spectacular on this..... this should not be that expensive..... i think i can build one myself....or anybody can build this one also.......just browse the net and you have all the things you needed. Peace!
SuperBengates 6 months ago
makes other electric bikes look like dog shit
mesmerizeme 2 years ago
how much? =p~
hanhiep 2 years ago
you might be right on this one, my point was to highlight that drawing from the wall is not emission free but masses of emissions come from power stations and they supply the charge. So until power stations are purely solar (for e.g.) charging is not emission free. The other thing is that of course much depends on the cars we would compare, small engined ones or large. Then again the CO2 problem is also not understood. CO2 is not bad, just far too much of it is, and that's what we have to fight
trident3b 2 years ago
at 0.40 she states that the pedalling also charges up the bike's battery and many reports are suggesting that this is the prime charge.The pedalling charge might be enough to move it a few inches. 99% or more is from the wall charge. Re emissions, I think you will agree (and the other guy also meant) that we are talking about CO2, cell phones to the best of my knowledge don't emit CO2. The prime feature of this bike is the pedal action instead of a throttle. Otherwise it's like any other e-bike.
trident3b 2 years ago
Shoddy reporting. It's not pedal powered for speed, pedaling only governs the accelerator and slightly helps to top off the battery.
They needed to ask its average range per battery charge, how green is the bike (many battery driven vehicles have creation/disposal issues), and a host of other important questions.
I'd love a bicycle that could be purely human powered up to 50mph. This isn't it.
imrational 2 years ago
It's a nice idea, but it is just an electric motorbike, which is speed controlled by pedalling.
kawasicki 2 years ago
It shouldn't cost over $1,000 US if mass produced, but will probably be an gigantic rip off
MOGGYWW 2 years ago 3
$44,000? I'll buy a Volt and laugh at the eRockIT as I pass it in the rain.
UKBB 2 years ago 3
well, consider this thing would be mass produced, i bet the price would half itself
armatus99 2 years ago
That is what has happened to computer technology. As the consumer base grows the number of venders grows, and with that the innovators step up with better technology and more efficient manufacturing technology. And that results in lower manufacturing costs, and lower cost to consumers, while at the same time continuing to allow manufacturers to makep a reasonable profit.
upcycle 2 years ago
It's great, practical green technology. But what's up with the price? It's bullsh*t. If he is serious about the invention changing the way people think about eco-friendly transport, he will find a way to reduce this cost by an order of magnitude. If not, someone else will!
kphag 2 years ago
I commute to work by bicycle, 11 miles each way. With an erockit I could cycle 50 miles each way. I hope it is mass produced and very soon, I WANT ONE. Just one question, is it safe?
fergl 2 years ago
The guy is a genius and should be applauded for creating such a fantastic invention. I hope one day (soon) there are thousands of these type of vehicles on the road. I couldn't afford one but you never know, maybe Toyota and Honda are watching and come up with something like it.
telstube34 2 years ago 3
yeah everyone will buy one, or two! while i drive my Porsche suckers
milan20 2 years ago
You sound like a porsche driver - twat
phowitt 2 years ago 3
whaT?!?!?!
you could get a Harley for that!
fifthera 2 years ago 2
Awesome! I love any sort of bike and this rocks! Good effort German dude!
domhaigh 2 years ago
I do want, but that need to be mass produced in order to be affordable. This is just a rich person's play thing at the moment.
onithor 2 years ago
apewings: sure, it is useful like anything that is electric. My points were different ones. It was assumed that this bike was charged by peddeling. It isn't. The charge coming from the pedals is so little as to be totally insignificant. The pedals are merely an alternative throttle, no more. The unit is charged from the mains supply. The other thing was that slydewinder assumed there were no emissions which is also incorrect. The power station has high emissions. Those were my points.
trident3b 2 years ago 3
OMG I WANT ONE.... Is it legal to ride that on streets in the US?
moconcepts 2 years ago
big friggin!! deal... It's a moped. I thought we had progressed to the point where we didn't need to pedal...a motorcycle for example. A huge step backwards and at an insane price.
hallaelementary 2 years ago
Did you read what I wrote? The price could be lowered significantly by mass production (remember assembly lines,
Henry Ford ect). I do agree anyone paying 40k + for it would be a damm fool, but I'm not talking about buying a (as in one) bike.
And I may be wroung but I don't think a mopid could hit 50mph. Sorry it doesn't
go "vroom vroom", but I prefer "cha ching".
If you get the price under 3k they'll sell.
Too bad I'm broke.
'
slydewinder 2 years ago
A moped uses fuel and petals, this is purely electric with pedals. There is a big difference, so yes it is a big deal.
DaveNC09 2 years ago
I don't care what anyone says this is a great idea. Takes up less space, tears up the road less, "0" immissions. works for me. No passive restaints OMG! just like any bike, motered or otherwise. Cost can be brought down by mass productiion.
( Trek?) and it's not like there;s a shortage of factory space, or workers looking for a jobs. This could be a freaking goldmine in California alone.
slydewinder 2 years ago
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big friggin!! deal... It's a moped. I thought we had progressed to the point where we didn't need to pedal...a motorcycle for example. A huge step backwards and at an insane price.
hallaelementary 2 years ago
slydewinder: unfortunately you've fallen for the classic error. "0 emissions". This bike was charged up over night... perhaps all night. Where did that power come from? Right, the mains socket in a house. Magic supply of power coming from a wall? Naa... a festering great power station down the road emitting tons of CO2, and so the emissions are hidden, but still there. If a million of the blessed things were charged overnight the emissions would be spectacular. Therefore sadly not 0 emissions.
trident3b 2 years ago
Germans likes to take a bike to their workplace... cool man...
h0tie 2 years ago
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h0tie 2 years ago
xm5000li motorbike £3000.anyone bought one?buy your electric scooters now b4 we all have to pay per mile-the next government money making scheme.
nifftynick 2 years ago
I've got it, what I save in gas I get snatched from me on the price tag. I don't think anyone is expecting him to give them away, but give me a break, $44,000.00 I say he should back off that crack pipe and take a look at reality. This is another example of greed over shadowing a sane mind. Keep your fancy bike I'll stick to trying to peddle my fat but up the hills on my $75.00 bike.
onyxone144 2 years ago
Its not greed. he has a right to charge as high as people are welling to pay for it. If you don't want it, don't buy it. You have no right to have it.
FutureStudy 2 years ago
why does it have to cost $44,000? Is it rocket science?
strongmeasures 3 years ago
Hopefully someone like Honda (who seem to love stuff like this) will take this up and make it affordable. Quality invention
downfader2 3 years ago 2
only for the rich again. why is it so costly.
money,money,money.
chippymel 3 years ago 4
It's a prototype and it's completely made by hand. A hefty price tag is to be expected.
riDDimann 3 years ago
who can't make that in their garage? it doesn't have to be $44,000... that's overkill...
strongmeasures 3 years ago
So... you can? I bet you'd outright fail to design the electronics behind acceleration, or building a strong enough, custom battery pack...
The there's also labor involved in designing and building it.
Then you need to get it street legal. You can't simply build your own vehicle and drive around in it in Germany. You have to abide by a lot of laws and have it checked by TÜV. That whole process could easily account for half of the build costs...
riDDimann 3 years ago
alright fine...but here we now have a solution to alternative transport (at least for bike riders) and nobody's helping this guy produce it cheaper? No big companies are trying to reproduce this cheaply? The complacency is disgusting..Seems to me we get something like this and the whole planet should move into action around it...
strongmeasures 3 years ago 2
There are a lot of problems with this concept, e.g. a total lack of any kind of passive or active safety, no storage compartment whatsoever, etc.
It also has the same basic problem that all EVs share, that is a lack of cheap, durable and safe battery capacity. Until that is solved, they should concentrate on overcoming the other problems I mentioned.
Though I don't see the necessary incentive to research battery technology on behalf of this project alone.
riDDimann 3 years ago
Just because you pedal it in order to make it move doesn't mean it has to have two wheels (ever heard of a tricycle or quadcycle?) Trikes and quads could be enclosed and have more safety if you're afraid that you might spaz and fall or someone would hit you. And pedaling it generates electricity which charges batteries so they LAST LONGER. Seriously man, instead of just downing this guy's ideas, try to come up with an improvement.
hyperactiveguy 2 years ago
It's not that I don't like it. It's a neat little toy. But it's not the solution for our transportation problem.
ps: No matter what you do, passive safety will always add weight. Material that deforms and empty space where it deforms into.
pps: A human can sustain deliver a sustained power of about 0.3 HP by paddeling. That's not really a lot compared to what you need to get around the city with reasonable speed ;)
riDDimann 2 years ago
marketing & misleading. riDDimann hits it on the head. 0.3 watts or less will not charge or run a 9kW (9000 watts) motor. So what will? The mains. The damn thing is charged by the mains for some 4 hours. But they talk as if you are pedalling and generating that power. Rubbish. The only difference is that the pedal action has been configured to act like an accelerator, and the guy explains that too... but he fails to say, "and my zapping around the city is the result of a 4 hour charge up".
trident3b 2 years ago
I want one, I want one!!!!
trebla77 3 years ago 2
sorry, trebla77, i meant to give you a thumbs up...
strongmeasures 3 years ago
come on, everyone should buy these and have one, no more gas, no more war! life is free!
rainbowcolorducky 3 years ago 2
Good luck getting $44,000.00 for an electric bike from maybe a Millionaire who collects bikes and has money to waste on one.
Btw, General Motors is releasing the new Volt cars soon, and they won't cost that much more than this thing.
plutocratarianism 3 years ago 3
right on!
quitearow 3 years ago
cool invention! if i had the money i would gave him 10mil USD for his RnD and this could be the main transport for developing countries where the public transport sucks!
just using ur leg power, no more gas/petrol and its a healthy exercise plus !
riderxriderx 3 years ago 3