Expelled - The Implications of Neo-Darwinism

[wandp7782]

You give a child bad childhood, he is gonna grow up bad and do bad things. that's why they say "they had a bad childhood"........

[hereticjoeyjoey]

what is this Darwinism i keep hearing about ? Darwin did not do anything but make the connections using the scientific method he did not invent this process or even the idea of evolution? so why is his name a fucking crusable all the sodden ??

[DracoReincarnated]

Yes, and Jack the Ripper killed in the name of peanutbutter....

[Psycnosis]

And hitler used THE BIBLE to justify EVERYTHING he did.

[lunabirdie]

you're confused.....have you ever been to the yad vashem.. probably not....you need to take a second look at history....do a biblical covenant study ....& maybe travel a little more....

[lunabirdie]

key word "USED" the bible...

[Psycnosis]

theres no point in doing a biblical study, theres more facts in the 3 little pigs or other more believable fairy tales.

And yes he used the bible, if the bible wasnt evil malignant and wicked it couldnt be used for the same... Why do you think slavery was alowed in the US? because its in the sadistik book better known as the bible.

[lunabirdie]

yeah the bible has many horrific acts inside it ....god also doesn't desire Robots to obey his every command ...we have a full plethora of events that can happen....good and evil gives us a wider spectrum......he desires for us to Want to serve him....

[Psycnosis]

so god wants us to WANT to serve him by being the most evil "being" that ever "existed"? doesnt make much sense specially when he claim himself as good.

[lunabirdie]

thinking god is the most evil being isn't the right mode of thought......it's tough....but he did through his omniscience,omnipotence,and omnipresence,know the knowledge of evil would come into existence because of lucifer's pride...isaiah54:16 it is i (god)who has created the destroyer to work havoc....

[Psycnosis]

No no you get me wrong... god is not the most evil being... the bible is the most evil book. Big diffrence, the bible has nothing to do with god.

[lunabirdie]

there are books that have been written that are Totally evil......the bible? definately not the most evil book ... has a little bit of everything inside.....-god speaking through jeremiah-"for i know the plans i have for you, plans to prosper you & not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future" ...where's the evil in that?

[Psycnosis]

well that ofcourse depends how do you define if a book is evil and how do you measure it? I would say the acts of the followers... Have any books or ideology in the worlds history every created as many deads as the bible? I mean everything from its begging with witch hunting and burning to stoning everyone that was just alittle bit diffrent from what the bible dictatoricly states. If you look at recent history then theres the entire slavetrading (inspired by the bible) the KKK and the nazis.

[lunabirdie]

as many "deads"....no...but look at the span of the bible...the time spans longer than any other written work....what the bible dictatorially states?..which covenant the 1st or 2nd...slavery?..mankinds own ideals,obsession w/pride,greed,fame..but most of all mo money,mo money,mo money...the kkk&nazis?......hummmmmm auhh...brainwashed psycos?.......

[Psycnosis]

I agree... Brainwashed psycos, but what was used to brainwash them? they took the bible literally, and thats a huge problem because its not a factual book, it was never ment to be the truth or used at the truth the content of the bible was being voted in by a counsil who banned things from the bible that they didnt like, even a the divinity of Jesus was VOTED for. There were more gospels that were rejected than there was accepted... maybe the rejected ones were the true ones.

[lunabirdie]

i seriously doubt "love your neighbor as yourself" was used to brainwash nazis into killing jews....they might have used historical deaths pertaining to the 1ST. COVENANT...the "deads" we were refurring to earlier,....the divinity of christ?...that's one you have to figure out for yourself.....i was curious once too......after seeing with my own eyes...places like caesarea,massada,megiddo,jorda­n,jerusalem,cana... my faith is poppin.. i doubt i could ever "not have faith" again

[Psycnosis]

you right i doubt it was but I think it was more the lines of kill the unbelievers. use them as slaves (concentration camps). They believed they were chosen by god and everyone else was unbelievers or infidels and therefore second rank humans. Hitler also believed he was doing the work of god revenging Jesus since it was the jews who got him killed.

[lunabirdie]

hitler also used the crucifix....at a number of entrances to the camps.....written below the plaque sometimes in more than 1 language read....the only good jew .....is a dead jew .....hitler twisted christianity pretty well....

[lunabirdie]

p.s. christ was a nazarene too-a very dark skinned jew .....old school....jew of jews......if hitler had the chance he'd off him.....

[lunabirdie]

that's Exactly why you need to do a "covenant" study......or not ....do what you want

[Psycnosis]

Morals... its sad to see christians talk about morality...

Christian morality: Murder, geneocide, sexism, racism, amputation, witch burning, book burning, brainwashing, endoctination of children and you can get away with anything you want as long as you accept jesus and ask forgiveness before you die... thats the morality of christianity...

[Psycnosis]

Neo darwinism? lol theres no such things retardos... And expelled is a cheap shot at making money off mindless christian sheep.

theres only the fairy tales of the bible, and theres other religions AND theres science.... guess which isnt based on biased bullshit....

[crazypills2]

These people have absolutely no understanding of evolutionary psychology.

[bbiermanster]

Are you an evolutionary psychologist? Because I have some questions.

[crazypills2]

"Are you an evolutionary psychologist?"

No, just a fan of Steven Pinker.

[bbiermanster]

So what's the relevance of evolutionary psychology? I remember making a double take when I first heard of it. I had just met an evolutionary psych from UCLA and I thought psychology is intuitive and speculative enough with LIVE subjects. How can you get any solid research when your subjects have no visible signs of behavior, no gray matter left and stone for bone?

[bbiermanster]

When I read bits of Pinker I thought "this guy is sold on his own fantasies" and concluded evolutionary psychology is to evolution what SETI is to astronomy. It is a "Line of research" that isn't testable.

So my next question is: Why would any rational scientist want to know anything about evolutionary psychology when there is so much empirical research to do?

[LittleTruckingBozo]

God that video was full of shit. And Ben stein lost his mind.

[haDs1]

All of this is nonsense. Even if any of it were true, it wouldn't change the truth of the matter.

[LEMONedOblaat]

after this movie I lost all respect for Ben Stein, Absolutely disgusting.

[unbeliever1000]

i find the accusation of social engineering ironic coming from the discovery institute (see the wedge document).

[ClumsyRoot]

Fear-driven propaganda with a suitably ominous score.

[BionicDance]

All these people seem to be saying really, is humans have to learn to police themselves if there's no god, and that they don't trust humans to do it; they need a deity to do it for them, and the thread of heaven and hell, or they don't think anybody will behave themselves.

They are children, clutching at mommy's skirt and sucking their thumbs; I'd rather be an adult who can stand up for myself and others without relying on higher authority. Humans can make their own rules without chaos ensuing.

[ClumsyRoot]

Well put.

No one in this clip even addresses whether or not evolution is true. They prefer instead to keep the focus on the supposedly dire consequences to follow when people start to believe it's true.

[DarwinsChihuahua]

These people offend me not because I'm an atheist but because I'm a human.

[jesterspace]

I am both and Stein should be ashamed of himself.

[Chrismoore1281]

I'm glad this clip was uploaded. Now I know that the Expelled movie is even more dishonest than even I expected.

[ChuckyJesus666]

This whole thing is an appeal to consequences of belief, and therefore fallacious.

[comingviking]

I really think these people are a bit scary. They don`t seem to value humans or humanity. I am an atheist and I think that people matter, because I am an empathic guy, I respect peoples feelings, and I think that another human beings life experiences, their emotions, their aspirations and hopes for themselves and their loeved ones, in and of themselves validate and give meaning to their life. And to my own. It`s the only life I get, and I would like it to be a good one. And not just for myself.