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  • izabella what cind of romani are u girl ur a boyash

  • Nazi loves himself, his race, his nation! His love of race leads to the degeneration! I do not understand why the Catholic Church collaborated with the Nazis! Gospel of Jesus Christ brings together all in one nation and kingdom and family! Mattew 2:6!

  • A huge reason the Roma genocide by the Nazis is not as well known: those denying Nazi murders always concentrate on Jews. Time you folks made O Porajmos movies; your music is better than Jewish music. All the Roma were accused of is begging & petty theft; true or false is moot as those acts are never cause for the death penalty, apart from the Nazis. The murders of the Roma thus prove Nazi pigs worse than Jack the Ripper, who cleansed society by killing prostitutes.

  • us romani might be hated, but the lord jesus christ loves us

  • May the Bliss of the Mother Srimati Laksmi-mata and Supreme Personality of Godhood, Sriman Visnu/Narayana rain down upon you and your people :) You are brave, good video.

    -this, from a son of India

    btw: What is the Roma traditional religious system?

  • @Astavyastataa It depends on who you ask, some would say Eastern Orthodox

    Christian, others would say pantheism.

  • @izabellathewiccan: Accha, I see, thanks :) But, then, what is it about the Romani belief system that people hate? Also, could you tell me more about your Mother Goddess and the other gods, like Kham?

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  • Thank you:) I just speak what is on my heart and that is the voice I was given.@savygypsy

  • My fiance is Romani. Before we met, I was relatively ignorant as to his history, all Romani history in general. The "standard" idea of Roma is as gypsy beggars, thieves and nomads. I am shocked, appalled, disgusted at what I have found. It makes me ill. Our future child(ren) will be raised Romani, yet It is very disheartening to know that there is such prejudice against a culture that most people don't even know truly exists. Perhaps, someday, it will be different for our babies.

  • I hope and thank you for commenting.@cinnbunn

  • kushti chaz, can we rummer?? lol

  • I am an American Spanish Romani. I want to learn Romani language, vlax and I want to involve myself in activism. Will you contact me I want to help.

  • you should return to your roots in india..you'll be welcome here :)

  • Thank you@bmw335i88

  • More Romani have to be brave and speak up like you. We must as a people forget our differences and help one another. Even here in the US there is discrimination-yes. But in Europe it is very bad. Keep speaking out Phrala--you are very intelligent and articulate.

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH your support and other like you are why I speak for our people!@dcmouse48

  • I'm trying to start a cause for Romani women's rights on facebook. I added this video as a strong Romani woman's voice of the week. Good for you!

  • I am truly honored can you tell me where or what it is called so I may join, I am willing to do more videos for you if you like just message what you need! Anything for my people~@SalisteGirl

  • your a really beautiful and intelligent young lady.

    i agree with every word you say. Im trying to learn some Romani language right now.

  • good luck and thank you for your support.@hydrofreakie

  • esti din romania ?

    are you from romania ?

  • i was born there@benevol2k

  • you are not wiped from history! thank God for the Roma or else music would be boring! Kill them with kindness, you are young and there is no point in getting upset. Demonstrate to the world with every day actions that you are a human worth being on earth.It is not illegal to be a gypsy, its an honour that your blood has remained so pure with so much mix around the globe. Enjoy your uniqueness!

  • Your words are very kind, thank you@Mafs75

  • What do you mean with race..

    I think humans are one race devided by cultures and habits..

    I must admit that the Rroma people are a bit different then most other europeans but that is what you get when you are discriminated persecuted for being a gypsie..

  • I am a Sixth generation American Karldarash Meenehtee ki beenadodilem undo Kumpania, sa ley Karldarash vistulya ty Machvayey; Ritistshti, Ghoosulya, Russoulya, Chopeshti, Sopoguh, Bimboulya, etc etc. I to have had access to much of the reports going on, facts about the issius and friendships with the leading Rromano scholors, Arthurs, Activist here.There is much we can discuss penne to help our people and the way in which it needs to be brought to the people in peace as many do not understand.

  • I admire you spirit to help our people and to brave what comes our way, I am blessed and Honored that you believe in me. Thank you @Sumakuni

  • @izabellathewiccan I pray for you in every way possible; so that your great spirit's wishes all come true in beauty and in balance my little sister, nepata..ilesa. If you have yahoo messenger or skype, I would love to speak with you and share with you all the wonderful situations that are taking place and we together must always focus on what we do want and not on what we do not. Much love and bibi hugs and kissesxoxox

  • @izabellathewiccan They do not understand you are listening to the ancestors more then most of the people are, as this was us before the Wicca even began and it is father from evil then the ignorance in man seems to know. I pray that your youth, living in the now, developing the talents, knowledge and experiencing joy is not missed nor looked over; by you or by anyone else relevant.

  • @Sumakuni "farther" not father...forgive me; typo

  • @izabellathewiccan I think you are an intelligent, beautiful, wise and caring individual; Rromani, non Rromani "whatever"...spirit/soul. I feel our people were blessed to have you be one of us and I am glad you speak up for the Mother of us all.

  • @izabellathewiccan Thank you by the way for your kind and loving words, it is equally my honor murra pej, nepata' to as well know you and be inspired by your courage; in protection, great light and surrounded by heavenly support. <3

  • Izabella, I think you are beautiful and brave sheyutso. I am very proud to know you and that we share the same race. I have access to so much evidence and reports of what is going on there where you are, even more then you are saying. I also have access to what is happening in other Countries, it is truly a historic situation that has yet to be even noticed let alone told and stopped. Persecution till today that is more then the African American and the Native American combined.

  • @Sumakuni Thank you so much people like you are why I do what I do, I am working on a video, a long time in the making Hope you all like it!

  • What European countries still sterilize Gypsies??

  • Up to 2 yrs ago, cases were reported in Hungary and Czeck

  • Slovakia as well.

  • Dupa cum spuneai si tu, ar fii bine daca ar exista un interes al "majoritarilor" sa ne cunoasca cat de cat si sa vada ca si noi suntem oameni. Din pacate , interesul asta inca nu exista si de aceea ei continua sa ne priveasca cu aceeasi ignoranta ...

  • Its illegal in 7 states in the US to be a Romani? I never knew that. Thats pathetic.

  • Yes it is, Welcome to the world of the Romani. You are hated and those who have souls and hearts don't know the injustice that is given to the the Romani!

    Thanks for you support

    Bella

  • hey i am Rrome from America and there is no such law here in any state that make it illegal to be gypsy .... but i am with you they are racist people here but not really at us mostly the blacks and mexicans are targeted ......

  • The laws were disbanned in 2003. However, Most Racist people in the United States do not even Know the RRoma exist it sickens me!

  • Halo Namo, I am also a sixth generation American Rromni and I understand why you say there is no discrimination for us here in the States but that is not factual. There is many Rromani discriminated here in the States. there are colleges that do not allow one to make Rromani studies a major, jobs who do not hire but claim it under the table because of there fear of Rromani. there is States that have the laws on the "books" but not openly enforcing it.

  • The best part is; even the criminal element (that every race has) did not start off that way; like many minority immigrents they began trying to do honest work, either traditional crafts and arts or employee jobs. I know thousands of families that in the older days they were the first to be fired, before the other minorities, even the African American.

  • tThere are thousands of Rromani ky makla aye chordimous ky zumadaan tey len bookya Gyshekanio. I know Rromna that got there educations later in life and went job searching, only to always have that one supervisor or employer who did not like them and fire them for no cause,even when they do good work and then tell the next job, "hey do not hire that person, they are Gypsy".

  • I have had Rromna cry on me for placing there certificates on wall like it was an academy award only to be turned down by many oppertunities because they are Rromna The only ones that it may not effect are long standing self employed family business Rroma or of course, he "minority" criminal element

  • Thank You Sumakuni... I need to make another video to get the awareness out!...I would love to have a joint video done...or response videos from fellow Rroma...Thanks again all those who have stood behind me as I shed light on our situation.

    God Bless

    Bella

  • i've bin thinking about the same thing. its such bullshit! i live in america. i cant believe that its aligal in seven state's! its a horrible pointless thing to have in todays times.

  • I think the same thing..that is why I hope to have a organization up..soon to help give us a voice!

  • Hey there Iza, you know that my family is Romani Gypsy and we can trace our heritage back as such for centuries.

    I agree with you that it is bullshit that the lives of our people are covered up. Its like the world is trying to convince everyone else that we are horrible and worse than terrorists. We are peaceful people. My family, the other families, we never harmed ANYONE.

  • Exactly, we are no different then you(Gadje), we bleed to!!!

  • For the record, if anyone does not believe that there were anti-Gypsy laws and wants to know the truth, PM me and I shall send you proof. :)

  • Thank you Arisztid I know that therre were but when I went to find them I couldn't!

  • Most welcome. :)

    I shall pm you with my list so far. I wish I could find the big list that was on the site that was shut down but, at this time, still no success. I am now looking through all of my notecards to see if I was intelligent enough to copy it.

    Expect a PM in a few minutes.

  • Opre Roma!

  • :)@Girlygurl123 

  • Izabella, the Romani are beautiful race of people that absolutely DO NOT deserve to be treated that way. I am a gadje but I have studied your race and traditions and I think it is fascinating. I believe what is happening in the world today; the persecution, the killing of chavvies, EVERYTHING...it's all a bunch of crap and people need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize that you are just like everybody else! I can see why you are so angry, kestra! I would be, too.

    Bax tai, Autie

  • Right, thank you. I wish all Gadje were like you!

    Bax tai!

  • Agreed. If all Gadje were like Girlygurl, our lives would be MUCH better.

  • *Smiles sadly and offers a friendly hug* I wish so, too.

    Sastipe, friend. ^^

  • Would you support a creation of a Roma state in India?

  • Honestly, if India and the world could stand for a independent Rroma nation i would be excited I don't care where it is but yes i would support it.

  • I am not the OP but I am Roma. I do not know if this is what you intended but I read your comment as "would you support the creation of a Roma state in India and be willing to all go there to live?" If I am wrong, pardon the assumption.

    I would fully support a homeland for us anywhere. However, I would exercise my right to remain in America and do not believe that we should be forced to move "home" any more than any other ethnicity or other group of people.

  • I don't have a problem with the gypsies. They speak an Indo-European language like us. The European Nationalists don't like you, however they hate us too.

  • Oh alrighty... apologies for the assumption.

    Who is the "us" that they hate?

  • White Americans is what i mean by us.

  • Why would they hate white Americans??

  • Sorry for the long wait for a reply. European nationalists do not like American culture and blame us for their awful Republican form of governments. Even though it was the european peasants that rebelled and installed republican governments. It wasn't our fault that we influenced them.

  • No problems and that is true. I am non-white American and see this and even have a few online scuffles on international boards. I find a bit amusing the stereotypes they have of Americans and even more so that they think we have THAT much of an influence over their governments. Influence does not mean "create" or "bastardize."

  • I'm not doubting the other stuff that you said, but I live in the United States and I have never heard anything about it being illegal to be a gypsy. It goes against our constitution for it to be illegal. If you know for a fact that this is true, could you please give some sources?

  • If you want, I can provide you with sources for her statement.

    At this time I do not think that the old laws hold. I believe that the status crime statutes of, I think, 2003 (do not quote me on this date) rendered the old anti-Gypsy laws null and void.

    However, they were in force and enforced for over a century. They got away with it because they defined us as a lifestyle. They used the word "Gypsy" but, for the most part, outlawed the sort of traditional things we did.

    cont'd...

  • But honestly... still there are lots of things goind againist the Rroma and I hope that everyone would stand together on this subject. Thank you again Arisztid, Gypsygirl you are an amazing Gadje! And to Kiron. Thank you!

  • I have been in Romani activism for some time now and know things that keep me awake at night and fuel nightmares. I am close in touch with the news coming out of EU. I also have personally experienced the normal, for us, racism in America... something that most Gadje deny occurs.

    I wish we would all stand together and that there were MORE Gadje like GirlyGirl.

    There is much divisiveness amongst our folki, if you would like to know what is going on, I would like to tell. It HAS to stop.

  • Girlygurl even. Pardon my uncaffeinated self. My spelling is atrocious until I am caffeinated.

  • There was one law that I do not know how they got away with it:

    The law stated that unless we paid a hefty fee, we could not describe ourselves as "Gypsies." Basically, we needed a license to be "Gypsy."

    These laws varied from State to State and the rigorousness of their enforcement also varied.

    I checked my link to a partial list of them, by State, date, and number, and the page is sadly down.

    If you would like I shall find them somewhere else and pm it to you.

  • Yes, please send me the link. I like to know about these sort of things.

  • I am going to have to do a bit of digging. Expect a pm in about a day. I have not yet found a website with them listed but I KNOW they are out there. :)

  • PM on its way, let me know if you did not get it. I shall resend.

    I was wrong... they made no bones about it being ethnically related. I had not read those laws in some time.

  • I also questioned this point in it. I tried looking it up to verify that she was correct, but found nothing. I'm not sure where she got that info; I'd like to know. Izabella, would you care to fill us in? I'm just curious. You have my support, this was a really great video. I wasn't aware of this issue before but you sparked an interest in me to learn.

  • question what point love?

  • When you mentioned it being illegal to be a gypsy in the United States. I see now there is a conversation about this. ArisztidZ's response to

    wikedwitch80's comment helps this make a bit more sense...

  • Issabella, I feel sorry for your people on how others treat them because they are Gypsies! People WAKE THE FUCK UP and STOP THIS! This is 2008 I thought we were better than this?

    )O(Blessed Be!!!

  • Thank you Jim

  • I actually have seen some racism toward the gypsy culture recently. I was talking with a co-worker about this subject last week and she went off on gypsies being thieves and shit. I became really angry but didn't lose my cool over it, but I told her that same thing "research what you are talking about before you open your mouth." I know hatred toward any race is wrong, and no matter what faith you have, there is never room for hate or justifying hate. Thank you for sharing this vid izabella!!

  • Thankyou for your support, AleronNightshade.

  • Oprey Rromale! You are a brave woman and all my respect goes out to you. =)

  • Thank you Kiron, as does my respect go to you and your Family.@sezitall

  • Omg...this must be the best video you have done, you spoke every passionately towards to Romany gypsy and im sure your ancestors would be poud at what your doing for them. keep on doing what your doing, love you bella x x

  • I am so glad you like it! I feel that someone had to say it and well it is time for people to know!

  • Nais tuke!

    Nobody cares about us. We are denied our place in history and, as Dr. Hancock says, the Holocaust is not over for us.

    Opre Roma!

  • Thank You!!

  • The people in Debate Faith are mostly bitter ex-christian Atheists. They have no respect for history. As a Gnostic, I can attest to the kind of suppression that existed and still existed... especially with smaller groups. Be strong my friend! :)

  • :) your right Kevin@OuroborosSoul

  • good video i love it you are tell the true

  • Good video

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