The truth is so beautiful once you see it! I used to deny the truth! I used to not believe. Then I visited a Mormon Temple with my friend and I saw the truth! Jesus came to North America in the year 1558 and taught the Indians how to build casinos. He built supermarkets and advised them all to buy 100 years of storable food, cause when he comes back, the lines are gonna be too long. The blacks have their own planet. There are no cats in heaven. Only 14 year old girls! Amen, Moroni!
I'm am LDS and I love the church, but there are great people out there outside my church. My aunt is Catholic and she is a beautiful example of Christ's love. My best friends, the people who have treated me most Christ-like in my life have been Muslim and Jew. We should never look at anything other than a person's works, for a person's heart is revealed fully and truly in their works not their faith. Peace!
"God , book of mormon, Lord said, Joseph Smith, Jesus Christ, Nephi, Christ, Moroni, TRUE, ancient records, gift and power of God, know for sure, testify, book of mormon , most correct book, jesus christ, book of mormon , jesus Christ" repeat 3 x a day and you will blend book of mormon ,Jesus Christ . I say this in the name of Joseph Smith.
@amarkanders777 Thanks for that lesson on Southpark Religion 101. Joseph did some of the translating the way you describe, but also in the way the picture depicts.
The book of Momrmon contains many verses copied from the King James Bible (and also from other books). Interestingly, these copied verses inlcude the mistakes that were made in the KJB translation. It shows that the notion that the book of Mormon was written long before the KJ Bible, is nonsense.
If anyone wants to believe for themselves, they should stop making wrongful assumptions that come from their imagination and prayerfully read the Book of Mormon instead of relying on false information. You can't possibly know whether or not the Book of Mormon is of Christ and is of a righteous nature until you have seriously read it and pondered over it's teachings. Anyone who decides to reject taking this action is just showing cowardice and laziness. I HAVE read and pondered, and I KNOW.
@eitoobmiz YOU PROTESTANT SECTARIANS ARE JUST AS FALSE AND JUST AS MUCH OF A SATANIC CULT AS THE MORMONS, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, PENTACOSTALS, ETC ARE. YOU ARE DECEIVED BY LIES AND UNDER CONTROL OF THE DEVIL
@eitoobmiz I would be happy to share with you what is truth. JESUS is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. However, you worship a false Jesus just like the Mormons do. No matter how sincerely you worship a false Jesus, you are still sincerely wrong, and you have embraced a false "Way." You sectarians reject the Incarnation because you refuse to call Mary "Theotokos" making you Crypto-Nestorian. You also reject Christ's humanity because you reject the Real Presence in the Eucharist.
I think it is sad how people can take things that are of a pure and righteous nature and say that they are things of the devil. It was prophesied that in these latter days before the Savior comes again that people will put evil for good and good for evil. I can see that that prophesy has come true just by looking at some of these comments. Wake up people! Don't you even know Christ? If you did you wouldn't be bashing on the LDS religion. You have no idea who Christ is. Stop the lying.
@eitoobmiz I find all truth in the church. What do you truly know of the church? Do you know the people? or do you merely attack from a distance. Get to know someone before you judge, even then be leery of any judgement.
It is easy to tell whether Joseph Smith is a true prophet or not. It is said in the scriptures that "by their fruits ye shall know them". Joseph Smith showed forth good fruits. You can tell that his revelations were not of the devil, because anyone truly knows the nature of God vs the nature of the devil, it should be quite clear that Joseph Smith's revelations were not of the devil, but in fact of God. They were not evil in any way. The things Joseph taught were unselfish and worthy of God
@Kendanism JOE SMITH SHOWED FORTH WHORING AND LYING AND OCCULT SEER STONES AND SATANIC FREEMASONRY...........MORMONS ARE A SATANIC CULT OF LUCIFER.......
"Because being raised in New York ... I went to Yale for college and then living in San Francisco and Boston, I just feel that I've been blessed with a really wonderful network of faithful, interesting women, so I think the selfish impulse was I need to get all these stories in one place," she said.
"This is just a great treasure trove that I'm sitting on with these women. It almost came from a selfish drive, but at the same time, of course, the drive was to share that. I really did feel that we had to take some sort of action."
In addition to protecting our own families, we should be a source of light in protecting our communities. The Savior said, “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”
In addition, we need to greatly increase religious observance in the home. Weekly family home evening and daily family prayer and scripture study are essential. We need to introduce into our homes content that is “virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy.” 6 If we make of our homes holy places that shelter us from evil, we will be protected from the adverse consequences that the scriptures have foretold.
Go to live science com website to see the nov. 2007 article called First Americans All from Siberia, Study Confirms
New genetic evidence, however, backs up a chilly northwestern arrival to North America from Siberia about 12,000 years ago, via a temporary land bridge spanning the Bering Strait. The findings further challenge an alternative idea that humans sprinkled in to both North and South America on open sea voyages 30,000 years in the past.
1830 Joseph Smith claimed that God had revealed to him that he should send Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery to Toronto, Canada, where they would sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon (c/f "An Address to All Believers in Christ" by David Whitmer). But their mission didn't turn out the way the revelation had said it would. Smith said that God then explained to him why this was the case:
cont. "(I Joseph) enquired of the Lord about it, and behold, the following revelation came through the stone: Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil."
If Joseph was unable to discern whether his so-called revelations had come from God, his own imagination or the devil, surely one should be extremely cautious about listening to any of his claims, let alone accepting them as being truth.
Behold Satan appeared before Joseph Smith in the form of an angel of light.He then, possessed by evil spirits ,translated the book of Mormon and sent it out to deceive all nations, as to add to the Gospel of Christ and such heresies there of.Satan has achieved his mass deception through the LDS Church and his power has flourished, and his seed of destruction which has taken the truth of Jesus Christ and thus warped it just enough to leave a mans soul damned while believing he is saved.
I hate how the church says "OH THE BOOK OF MORMON TEACHES US TO DO STUFF"- but it's a history book. I read all of it, and I found no actual teachings in it other than "BE A MORMON"
@bobmuffins haha, what the heck are you talking about?! look up the meaning of a parable, thats how jesus taught by stories that we can compare and relate to our own life. The book of mormon has hundreds of stories of God's relationship with people in their day.. God works in the same exact manner in our lives today.. so any story where a person showed faith, for example, can add to your faith if you ponder the teachings...
I thank the Lord for the restoration of the true church, the true religion through Joseph Smith. Now when I pray. I pray to the true God. My heavenly father. He listens and answers my prayer. I know without a doubt, if I keep myself worthy, I will be able to be in his presence eternally with my family!
Allahsarmy: Do you even know what a translation is? It is taking a document a language of origin and converting that document to another language using words in that new language tha most closely reflect the original meaning in the original language. Of course Joseph Smith used English and American words, so we'd understand, in a manner as accurate as possible, what the original text said. Anyone who studies languages and has translated, knows this. I have that type of experience.
Your Religion is False and why i think its False is Because through reading you Holy Book i Noticed a few times where J.s Sliped up, From what Language did you say he translated from ??? It was Originally "Writen" about 600Bc YET I HAVE FOUND THE WORD ................... HIGHWAYS that is an american word that was not for sure around 600BC Along with Spelling Mistakes, Endless Things if theres any Mormon Ready to Challange Me to Proove im wrong Message me i will listen to what you have to say
Early in 1929, the Lincoln Ward was formed in the Granite Stake. Additionally, stake divisions caused the old Granite Tabernacle to fall within the Grant Stake boundaries instead of the Granite Stake. Built in 1903 and torn down in 1956, the old tabernacle was located at 3300 South and State Street, where the Century 16 Theaters stand today.
Speaking of her father's famous storytelling, she stressed the importance of discovering and remembering the lessons from his stories rather than the stories alone. "When we listen to him, always ask yourself, 'What is the lesson he's teaching? And how am I going to incorporate this lesson into my life?'" she said.
Ashley Shaum, a recent graduate of BYU–Idaho and currently a resident of Laie, attended the service project and enjoyed this opportunity to give back to the community. "It felt really good to get out and do some service. It was encouraging to see so many people come out to support," said Shaum.
Members of the Laie community and the BYU–Hawaii ohana joined with communities across Hawaii to beautify the island on Saturday, May 8, as part of the Mormon Helping Hands Program.
Prior to the dedication of the district center, Elder Christofferson hosted a luncheon honoring Chuuk Gov. Westley Simina. Elder Christofferson presented to the governor and the people of Chuuk a mobile desalinization unit and generator donated by the Church.
Both were visibly touched. Before leaving the airport, they took time to shake hands with all the members, many having walked miles to see Elder Christofferson.
During a May tour of Asia and the Pacific, Elder D. Todd Christofferson of the Quorum of the Twelve dedicated the newly completed Namoneas Chuuk District Center in the Federated States of Micronesia on Wednesday, May 12.
I would suggest assuming a more skeptical stance toward any and all religious truth-claims. Try reading, with an open mind, even material critical of your particular faith. You may be surprised by what you learn.
There is no such thing as absolute objectivity. I am not, and neither are you. There are no perfectly "neutral" sources of information pro or con. However, by reading a well-rounded selection of sources you will find that you can make a more informed decision on any subject.
@Pacisdiligo You may be surprised if you have faith and pray for truth instead of just reading things that mean nothing. The BOM teaching along with faith and action will lead to true happiness.
@jake8232: "..have faith and pray for truth"? Could you be any more vague? Or more subjective? What a meaningless statement. And what do you mean by "..reading things that mean nothing"? You mean like science, history, logic and geography books? And why would I pray as to the BOM's alleged veracity when simple observation indicates that it is not? As for "true happiness", I am truly happy with my life as it is. But thanks for caring.
I believe Joseph Smith was buried with the sun stone around his neck i guess that was his key stone if anyone wants to know what the sun stone represents its a minian false god. its bassically the god who is the sun but is spirit there fore is Isis
who was married to the god of the dead and king of the ghouls Osiris. Translation all one satan
The BOK has been proven to be false and, in a nutshell, a load of rubbish. smith was a false prophet and a 33rd degree freemason. SOme of these false prophecies are found here: Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pages 17-18; History of the Church, 1:315-316; 1833,History of the Church, 5:394; May 1843,History of the Church2:191
@omiolo I am simply telling the truth. The lds church is anti-Christian. I am not "anti" anything, if anything, i am "pro-truth". And that truth is that smith was a terrible man and a false prophet.
That was about the same time the Internet was beginning to emerge from its more academic origins. But the technology of that day would not facilitate streaming audio or video, so an Internet broadcast of general conference was not yet on the landscape.
And by 1994, when Alsop made those comments, the church was feeding conference broadcasts to more than 3,000 satellite downlinks at church buildings. Transmissions at the time were being picked up by 30 television stations, 1,218 cable systems and 36 ratio stations in the United States and Canada.
And he gave some apostles and some, prophets...for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry...Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God...
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =o I am never short of being truly amazed at how powerful the impact of The Word of the Lord can be, especially in regards to the prophecies of all of His prophets through the scope of time!!!! This video is so dead-on for these last days concerning the prophesies about secret combinations (SECRET SOCIETIES) and how they will be the downfall of the nation that upholds these practices. Wonderful job incorporating these prophetic warnings & the need to help spread truth!
I am so thankful for the restoration of the Priesthood and the keys being restored to rightoues men, and very thankful for the Temple blessings, the prophet is a true prophet here on earth and was chosen by God the Eternal Father. Amen.
"We think Orem City should pay us for revitalization!" quipped Brigham Ashton, a son of Alan and Karen Ashton. Brigham's company remodels the "Little Wonders" homes Ashton buys.
The spiffed-up homes then not only bless the lives of those who are able to purchase their American dream, but bless the neighborhoods that no longer have an eyesore house in their area.
OREM, Utah -- Karen Ashton isn't finished thanking God for her financial blessings.
In addition to helping create Thanksgiving Point with her husband as a gift for the community, spearheading the creation of the Timpanogos Storytelling Festival and serving in Canada with her husband in the Canada Toronto mission, she's now breathing life into a company that restores old homes for new owners.
Nielsen added, "I attended Katie's funeral with the thought that I was going to honor Katie and demonstrate support and comfort to Justin and his family. Justin did such an incredible job with his comments during the memorial that he flipped the tables on everyone in attendance and provided comfort and support to us."
Kendall R. Nielsen, a friend of the Youngs who has lived in Virginia Beach for four years, said Katie's death has affected their ward.
"She was on the mend (from Crohn's disease) and back to normal activity when she passed away," Nielsen wrote in an e-mail. "It is always shocking when a young parent passes away. ... Watching Justin holding his daughter during the memorial service was particularly poignant."
and has slept with it ever since. My 8-year-old son, Justin, although less vocal about it, will lie face down over his mother's grave and just lie there, feeling the closeness that a mama's boy needs to feel when snuggling warm and close on his mother's chest and dwelling in the memory of those moments as if she were lying there right next to him.'"
Intrigued, Wahid — who would later become the president of Indonesia — began peppering the Salt Lake City businessman with questions about his faith, wanting to know more about what Mormons believe and how the LDS Church's humanitarian service program worked
SALT LAKE CITY — When Hal Jensen first met Abdurrahman Wahid, he told the blind Islamic cleric he couldn't drink the tea that was offered him because he was a Mormon.
The Book of Mormon is the keystone of Mormonism; destroy this stone and all that it supports will come crashing down. Given the stakes involved, the very possibility of testing the book's historicity and authenticity becomes a moral obligation to do so. It is also an invitation to err on the side of caution and not reject it without due cause
The Mormon position is the near opposite. Confirmation of historic details of The Book of Mormon would substantiate Joseph Smith's account of how it came to be, and thus validate his seership and the divine origin of both the book and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This brings us to the astonishing possibility of being able to test Joseph Smith's claims through science, a possibility that critics have long tried to exploit
Claimed, and when looking into ancient origins for it, we see that vindicated more and more. The hebraisms in the text are evident throughout the book of Mormon.
Ah, so you're going to go for the claims that chiasmus proves the BOM, eh? That might be impressive if we find that this was actually part of Smith's own writing style. I guess you didn't know that, did you?
And since we find chiasmus being used in nursery rhymes, by Confucius, or even Mae West, that must make them divinely inspired, too, right?
Since we know that Smith claimed to have studied the Bible from the age of 12 onward, it's pretty obvious that he absorbed that as well.
Actually, I never claimed that it proved anything. Rather, it lends rather strong evidence towards the antiquity of the text.
Chiasmus isn't simple flip-flop in the BOM, but lengthy discourse in this Hebrew pattern that spans whole chapters, with each chapter being part of the ABCDEDCBA etc. pattern. Joseph was no poet.
He, having only a third grade education, would never have been able to pick up on that and other writing styles and linguistic patterns.
"The hebraisms in the text are evident throughout the book of Mormon."
If you didn't think that supports your position, you wouldn't have said it.
On and on about his lack of education, yet you obviously haven't read any of his letters or things he wrote himself. While formally uneducated, he was of at least average intelligence. You also have to sift through what actually happened and the church's revision of its own history.
You still have yet to explain cognitive accusitive, if-and clauses that had to be removed in some cases from later editions because they were too Hebrew to an english reader, etc.
So until you can address these things, it looks like you have an epic fail on your hands :)
Again, if Smith studied the Bible from the age of 12 until the BOM was 'translated,' that gives him 12 years to become familiar with the structure of the Bible.
We also have chiasmus throughout the D&C, too, showing that it was, indeed, his own writing style.
Again, having a third grade education in his day would not have sufficiently taught him of writing structure, as we can see that he could barely spell. The fact that there are different chapters in the book of Mormon that have a unique voice due to the different ancient authors lends even more evidence to its authenticity.
You avoided the other hebraisms I brought up.
And yes, after he was called by God and the Spirit was upon him, he truly increased in his knowledge and intelligence.
What other "hebraisms" you brought up? The extensive detail about Jewish temple ceremonies, customs, and history? The things that the BOM doesn't bother to cover, yet includes Greek and Latin terms when Smith clearly said it did not?
But you're right, he couldn't spell well, and we find those same kinds of mistakes made in the 1830 BOM which is a direct translation of the plates? Odd how that works.
Things Joseph would not have known about with his almost non-existent knowledge of Hebrew language and culture..
And again, he was saying these things to a scribe. Of course someone writing isn't going to be perfect. He is but a man. But God is not going to quibble about spelling errors, and they were corrected as Joseph looked at the earliest manuscripts and made corrections. He never actually went away from the text.
But since he finally got around to 'restoring' the gospel, why wouldn't he have made it perfect? Why would it need to be immediately corrected with the 1831 edition?
And how could the first edition have been so wrong about its Trinitarian view that it needed to be revised to reflect polytheism?
I see no evidence that the BOM contains anything relevent to ancient Judaism not already found in the Bible.
How, if this is the most correct book on earth, would god permit it to be published in 1830 as-was? I have a photocopy of it and it looks like it was written by someone who didn't have a very good grasp of English.
This is the fine line you have to walk, claiming that Smith was barely literate and therefore not capable of writing the BOM, yet still competant enough to write letters and revelations from which you draw your doctrine.
I've misrepresented nothing. I'm asking reasonable and logical questions and then following them to their logical conclusions. I also use the standards of Orson Pratt for evaluating Mormonism on its own terms.
That gives you the benefit of the doubt, an advantage I don't have.
Meanwhile, in Cambodia, Elder Lowell and Sister Cheryl Curtis from Riverton, Utah, organized a similar project, transporting 40 tons of rice to the Sandan District in northern Cambodia, providing almost 800 families with a 100-pound bag of rice. The Sandan District was hit by the same storm system that devastated Laos, destroying its residents' ability to plant crops of rice for the year.
The intent of the committee was not to dictate the absolute correct way to pronounce the proper names, but rather to establish some uniformity. Today, thanks to Skousen, we have a more likely candidate for the correct pronunciation of the name Amalickiah.
Decades after the Book of Mormon was published there was a wide diversity of ways that members pronounced Book of Mormon proper names. Finally, in the early 1900s a church committee was organized to produce a "pronunciation guide." This committee formulated a set of rules -- based on common English standards rather than revelation -- for pronouncing proper names.
The Browning Home and Gunsmith Shop is where Jonathan Browning made and sold his famous repeating rifle. His son, John Moses Browning, would later be known as the inventor of the machine gun
The Sarah Granger Kimball Home dates to the 1830s. While her husband, Hiram, ran a ferry service across the river to Iowa, Sarah organized women to sew shirts for the men building the Nauvoo temple. The organization grew into what's now known as the LDS Relief Society, with 5.5 million members around the world.
The hourlong wagon tours offer an excellent introduction to what there is to see and do. Visitors can then hop in their cars — this is a sprawling place — and stop at particular points of interest. For those with only a few hours to spend in Nauvoo, the highlights include:
"No one thought this would ever be rebuilt," Hughes says. But in 1962, a handful of Mormons founded, and funded, Nauvoo Restoration Inc., a nonprofit enterprise now run by the church.
About 60 sites greet visitors. Many of the early homes are open for guided tours. At several shops, volunteers demonstrate crafts of the mid-19th century. At the bakery, visitors are treated to freshly baked cookies. Almost everything is open year-round.
In the following years, the elements — and even arsonists — took their toll on the Mormon's former properties. Even the massive temple succumbed, both to an intentionally set fire and, later, a tornado.
An uneasy peace held for almost two years, but in February 1846, amid growing unrest and further threats of violence, Young agreed to move his flock out of Nauvoo. Over the next few months, thousands crossed the Mississippi on a grueling trek westward to Utah, an exodus that author L. Matthew Chatterley, a church member, calls "the largest human migration in U.S. history."
The town's young people are increasingly liberal, with young women far more likely to go out at night dressed to kill than they were a decade ago, Saba said. There are conservatives in the town, including Muslims who oppose drinking alcohol, he said, but they largely "keep it to themselves." "Take someone from New York or from Germany, and they'll only know Nazareth from the Bible— they think people over here are still riding donkeys," he said.
At the bar, the brothers said, you might meet local celebrities like soccer players or the members of Chaos, Nazareth's contribution to Israel's heavy metal scene. The band's MySpace page says the band started as "four friends from Nazareth" and identifies its style as "melodic death metal."
About three years later, "I realized I hadn't solved very much, but I had lost three precious years of enjoying the gospel. I was about to turn 25 years old and needed to serve a mission. I decided to return to Church the same way I left — alone."
He walked through the meetinghouse doors for the first time in three years in late summer of this year. It was fast and testimony meeting. He felt to bear his testimony.
After being ordained an elder in June 2006, Florin felt he needed to solve some personal challenges before returning to Church and entered a period of inactivity. "I don't remember how it started," he said. "I hadn't lost my testimony and no one had offended me."
Quietly, without notice, he slipped away from Church activity.
IRENE: When you are dunked in the water, believe me, you FEEL the Holy Ghost. You feel the difference. It's for real, and this is what I try to share with people.
REPORTER: Irene has health problems, and asked the elders to give her a blessing.
President Hinckley modeled the fund initially after the Perpetual Emigration Fund of the mid-to-late 1800s, which helped more than 30,000 Latter-day Saint converts immigrate to the Salt Lake Valley from Europe.
A young man in Peru who studied to become an accountant said, I am so grateful to God for this great opportunity to receive what my brothers and sisters did not have, to help my family, to accomplish my goals.
The Perpetual Education Fund also delivers self-respect, hope, Elder Carmack said. It is just beginning to achieve the vision of former Church President Gordon B. Hinckley; our current president, Thomas S. Monson; and our board of directors.
Most of the accounts that describe the translation process were recorded long after the fact and are often second or third hand. Because Joseph did not share the details himself, however, it is from these other reports that scholars attempt to deduce what took place when Joseph translated the Nephite record.
According to some of Joseph's closest associates as well as those who saw Joseph translate the Book of Mormon, when Joseph looked into the Urim and Thummim he was able to see the English translation. Some witnesses even claimed that Joseph spelled out proper names and the English text remained in view until it was written down correctly.
When The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints first acquired the 100-acre farm in 1907, the forested grove was only about seven acres, according to Parrott. After the church acquired Hyrum Smith's farm to the north, the church-owned grove expanded to about 13 acres. It remained that size until 1998, when the church acquired adjoining wooded property. bringing the number of mature forested acres to 30 with another 30 acres of younger reclaimed forest that are 30 to 50 years old.
Now why is it that I just read this in one of my new books? You're not even publishing your own inane thoughts but instead, plagiarizing someone else's.
Come now, we've already had this discussion. You know that I've done that, starting with the BOM. That said, I find no doctrine at all in it at all. Can you tell me where's it's located?
On the second point, I agree and that's the reason I collect LDS text books and teaching manuals. I can't get a straight or consitant answer from the average, garden-variety member so I go to the source.
I guess your definition of doctrine differs greatly from mine. Where can I find the temple ceremonies in the BOM? How about the D&C? POGP? Baptism for the dead? Geneology? Anything?
Actually it is ALL in the LDS Holy Scriptures, in detail in fact.
However, the doctrine contained in the Book of Mormon is the doctrine necessary for salvation. I am sorry if you are so blinded by your own agenda to see that!
I am trying to get you to read the BOM, i even gave you SPECIFIC chapters to read. You seem to have this attitude about LDS doctrine that if you REFUSE to see it, it does NOT exist.
What am I to do but encourage you out of your IGNORANCE??
As a matter of fact, I now own a total of five BOMs, dated 1957, 1963, 1977, 1981, and 1996.
And the best news that I have now found conclusive proof of where the final battle that resulted in the deaths of some 2.5 million people took place. You now have no excuse to say that we have nothing to prove your claims of BOM historicity.
I would settle for a testimony of Jesus the Christ, in both word and deed. For you to be born again, NOT in the sense of TV EVANGELISM, but in the sense of being a new person. Dedicating to a life of goodness.
What reason would I have to lie, even to an opponent? I have never knowingly stated anything about Mormons or Mormonism that was false and on a couple of occasions, even corrected myself, have I not? And don't I, at times, defend Mormons from either blatantly hateful dissenters or people who know nothing about it?
As far as McCraney goes, I find nothing wrong with what he teaches. He uses his own style and if you have a problem with that, I don't know what to say about the matter.
Whatever you say, but everything I've stated can be proven with your own texts and the words of your prophets and apostles. You conveniently choose to ignore them.
I've avoided nothing. But okay, then, show me where I can find the details of the temple ceremonies, where the priesthood is required (and where anyone but Jesus was a member of the Melchizadek priesthood), and a clear description of exaltation meaning godhood.
many things are hidden from the eyes of the wicked and the antagonistic and will continue to be until they humble themselves before the Maker and learn **line upon line, precept upon precept**.
It was just open and park-like. It was so open that from one side you could see right out the other side. Every tree and branch and twig that came down was cleaned up and hauled away," Parrott said in a telephone interview. "It was pretty -- and some people like that parklike appearance -- it bore little or no resemblance to the forest that the Smiths would have encountered or that Joseph would have gone to."
"Certainly Miguel Medel didn't consider himself the greatest actor in the world. But in terms of vocals and in terms of the way he portrayed himself in a very dignified manner, his vocals were outstanding. He came out of a cocoon to give a great, great performance."
"It's the first time he's done anything like this," Brother Gomez said. "He was telling me all along that he was afraid that he was going to get so nervous he was going to forget the music and his lines.
Sister Gentry is just one of more than 18,000 Church members around the world who fulfilled a Church-service mission during 2008. That number of members serving in this large army of volunteers is estimated to be higher in 2009.
President Thomas S. Monson, in a taped message that was played at the conference, said, "How I wish Sister Monson and I could be there with you to extend our love to you in person and to partake of your spirit." He spoke of the 77th Infantry Division in World War I, which came to be known as the "lost battalion" because of their refusal to surrender and resulting total isolation. "Men volunteered more readily, fought more gallantly, and died more bravely," he said.
"I'm feeling good, very positive," said Gilbert, president of the Tempe Arizona University Stake and real estate attorney who represented The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in its effort to obtain a zoning variance for the planned Phoenix Temple.
According to Pat Zima, one of the leaders of the young women's program at the church, the women's program has been active in the church since the early 1900s. Their next project will be collecting pennies through June for the "Pennies for Pink" program through Gilda's Club.
The young women's program "really helps the girls in the church and teaches them to help each other and treat each other right," Zima said.
"It's just nice to know that (the hats) are going to someone who needs them," 14-year-old Rachael Dietz said with a smile. "It was fun hanging out together and doing it."
Dietz's 13-year-old sister, Jade, knows what it's like to be in an orphanage. She was adopted out of the St. John's Home and knows the great needs there.
"It really helped to see how much we needed stuff like that," she said.
"It's been the joy of my life, now to be able to relearn Spanish in a new way and work on this production," he said.
"El Salvador del Mundo" represents diversity in more than being a second-language version itself. Many actors and singers are making their first foray into such a production or are transitioning from concert- or choir-type performance backgrounds.
"Everybody is so excited to see it happen onstage," said costume director Carla Montesino, who has helped on past LDS Latino Christmas productions. "We're being pioneers in many ways, since this is the first time it's being done in Spanish."
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For artistic director Paul Walstad, it's a chance to revisit the Spanish language he learned on his LDS mission more than two decades ago.
President Joseph F. Smith wrote, As I pondered over these things which are written, the eyes of my understanding were opened, and the Spirit of the Lord rested upon me
Was this before of after he violated 'God's' order to cease being a polygamist? He, of course, just kept on doing so anyway, fathering 11 children and thus being ultimately convicted under Utah's anti-polygamy laws in 1904.
I rely ONLY on the Bible. I don't need to read it through the rose colored glasses of it missing many 'plain and precious things,' which need propped up by the lame BOM.
The truth is so beautiful once you see it! I used to deny the truth! I used to not believe. Then I visited a Mormon Temple with my friend and I saw the truth! Jesus came to North America in the year 1558 and taught the Indians how to build casinos. He built supermarkets and advised them all to buy 100 years of storable food, cause when he comes back, the lines are gonna be too long. The blacks have their own planet. There are no cats in heaven. Only 14 year old girls! Amen, Moroni!
zoetropez76 1 month ago
Love this. It's true
jawjww 1 month ago
I'm am LDS and I love the church, but there are great people out there outside my church. My aunt is Catholic and she is a beautiful example of Christ's love. My best friends, the people who have treated me most Christ-like in my life have been Muslim and Jew. We should never look at anything other than a person's works, for a person's heart is revealed fully and truly in their works not their faith. Peace!
probrojeffro 4 months ago in playlist LDS Videos
"God , book of mormon, Lord said, Joseph Smith, Jesus Christ, Nephi, Christ, Moroni, TRUE, ancient records, gift and power of God, know for sure, testify, book of mormon , most correct book, jesus christ, book of mormon , jesus Christ" repeat 3 x a day and you will blend book of mormon ,Jesus Christ . I say this in the name of Joseph Smith.
kramd1 4 months ago
the picture used to illustrate the 'translation' of the BoM is FALSE/DECEPTIVE!
JS told that he put a ROCK into his hat...put his Face into the hat...and called out the words to a scribe!
amarkanders777 4 months ago
@amarkanders777 Thanks for that lesson on Southpark Religion 101. Joseph did some of the translating the way you describe, but also in the way the picture depicts.
allzago 4 months ago
for you're knowledge he allready came in 1830 , by the way are you a prophet?.
arcvar59 6 months ago
My faith stands strong in the book of mormon.. I know its true. Its made my life wonderful. Love it.
CrapMoShTank 9 months ago
@CrapMoShTank that is great that this faith changed your life.
what about JEHOVAH'S witness, I have met many of them that their religion changed their life in a positive way.
Some muslims that also have changed in a great way.
you are telling me that as long as you have a positive change it is ok regardless if you are being deceived?
NEFTALI1984 5 months ago
The book of Momrmon contains many verses copied from the King James Bible (and also from other books). Interestingly, these copied verses inlcude the mistakes that were made in the KJB translation. It shows that the notion that the book of Mormon was written long before the KJ Bible, is nonsense.
petervankan1 9 months ago
If anyone wants to believe for themselves, they should stop making wrongful assumptions that come from their imagination and prayerfully read the Book of Mormon instead of relying on false information. You can't possibly know whether or not the Book of Mormon is of Christ and is of a righteous nature until you have seriously read it and pondered over it's teachings. Anyone who decides to reject taking this action is just showing cowardice and laziness. I HAVE read and pondered, and I KNOW.
Kendanism 9 months ago
@Kendanism THE BOM IS FALSE INFORMATION.......WAKE UP
eitoobmiz 9 months ago
@eitoobmiz the bible is translated incorrectly do you trust it , after knowing this.?
arcvar59 6 months ago
@arcvar59 ONLY A SATANIST SAYS THE BIBLE IS TRANSLATED INCORRECTLY..............JESUS IS COMING SOON AND MORMONS ARE SATANIC...........
eitoobmiz 6 months ago
@eitoobmiz YOU PROTESTANT SECTARIANS ARE JUST AS FALSE AND JUST AS MUCH OF A SATANIC CULT AS THE MORMONS, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, PENTACOSTALS, ETC ARE. YOU ARE DECEIVED BY LIES AND UNDER CONTROL OF THE DEVIL
magnus56j 5 months ago
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@magnus56j SHARE WITH ME WHAT IS TRUTH......
eitoobmiz 5 months ago
@eitoobmiz I would be happy to share with you what is truth. JESUS is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. However, you worship a false Jesus just like the Mormons do. No matter how sincerely you worship a false Jesus, you are still sincerely wrong, and you have embraced a false "Way." You sectarians reject the Incarnation because you refuse to call Mary "Theotokos" making you Crypto-Nestorian. You also reject Christ's humanity because you reject the Real Presence in the Eucharist.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j It's that type of attacking that only is of one source and it comes not from the light of God.
probrojeffro 4 months ago in playlist LDS Videos
@eitoobmiz God love you brother. Peace!
probrojeffro 4 months ago in playlist LDS Videos
@Kendanism I read and pondered for 18 years and found it false.
Beccatjeschaake 9 months ago
@Beccatjeschaake so you are a prophet now?
arcvar59 6 months ago
I think it is sad how people can take things that are of a pure and righteous nature and say that they are things of the devil. It was prophesied that in these latter days before the Savior comes again that people will put evil for good and good for evil. I can see that that prophesy has come true just by looking at some of these comments. Wake up people! Don't you even know Christ? If you did you wouldn't be bashing on the LDS religion. You have no idea who Christ is. Stop the lying.
Kendanism 9 months ago
@Kendanism TELL ME, WHAT IS PURE AND RIGHTEOUS ABOUT THE LIES OF MORMONISM?
eitoobmiz 6 months ago
@eitoobmiz I find all truth in the church. What do you truly know of the church? Do you know the people? or do you merely attack from a distance. Get to know someone before you judge, even then be leery of any judgement.
probrojeffro 4 months ago in playlist LDS Videos
It is easy to tell whether Joseph Smith is a true prophet or not. It is said in the scriptures that "by their fruits ye shall know them". Joseph Smith showed forth good fruits. You can tell that his revelations were not of the devil, because anyone truly knows the nature of God vs the nature of the devil, it should be quite clear that Joseph Smith's revelations were not of the devil, but in fact of God. They were not evil in any way. The things Joseph taught were unselfish and worthy of God
Kendanism 9 months ago
@Kendanism JOE SMITH SHOWED FORTH WHORING AND LYING AND OCCULT SEER STONES AND SATANIC FREEMASONRY...........MORMONS ARE A SATANIC CULT OF LUCIFER.......
eitoobmiz 9 months ago
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arcvar59 6 months ago
"Because being raised in New York ... I went to Yale for college and then living in San Francisco and Boston, I just feel that I've been blessed with a really wonderful network of faithful, interesting women, so I think the selfish impulse was I need to get all these stories in one place," she said.
omiolo 10 months ago
"This is just a great treasure trove that I'm sitting on with these women. It almost came from a selfish drive, but at the same time, of course, the drive was to share that. I really did feel that we had to take some sort of action."
omiolo 10 months ago
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"The Bible Vs. The Book Of Mormon (Complete) " is a very good video to watch!
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rickgigliotti 11 months ago
Protecting Community
In addition to protecting our own families, we should be a source of light in protecting our communities. The Savior said, “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”
omiolo 1 year ago 2
In addition, we need to greatly increase religious observance in the home. Weekly family home evening and daily family prayer and scripture study are essential. We need to introduce into our homes content that is “virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy.” 6 If we make of our homes holy places that shelter us from evil, we will be protected from the adverse consequences that the scriptures have foretold.
omiolo 1 year ago 2
Go to live science com website to see the nov. 2007 article called First Americans All from Siberia, Study Confirms
New genetic evidence, however, backs up a chilly northwestern arrival to North America from Siberia about 12,000 years ago, via a temporary land bridge spanning the Bering Strait. The findings further challenge an alternative idea that humans sprinkled in to both North and South America on open sea voyages 30,000 years in the past.
solomanspaming 1 year ago
1830 Joseph Smith claimed that God had revealed to him that he should send Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery to Toronto, Canada, where they would sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon (c/f "An Address to All Believers in Christ" by David Whitmer). But their mission didn't turn out the way the revelation had said it would. Smith said that God then explained to him why this was the case:
solomanspaming 1 year ago
cont. "(I Joseph) enquired of the Lord about it, and behold, the following revelation came through the stone: Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil."
If Joseph was unable to discern whether his so-called revelations had come from God, his own imagination or the devil, surely one should be extremely cautious about listening to any of his claims, let alone accepting them as being truth.
solomanspaming 1 year ago
Behold Satan appeared before Joseph Smith in the form of an angel of light.He then, possessed by evil spirits ,translated the book of Mormon and sent it out to deceive all nations, as to add to the Gospel of Christ and such heresies there of.Satan has achieved his mass deception through the LDS Church and his power has flourished, and his seed of destruction which has taken the truth of Jesus Christ and thus warped it just enough to leave a mans soul damned while believing he is saved.
dedred5 1 year ago
@dedred5 Nice try! We will NOT be deceived by your pharisaic rhetoric.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo Looks like this video has been a hotbed of rhetoric of the lying trolls like spamingsoloman, and others.
How long has it been that you've been dealing with it?
Too bad davidkat doesn't take time to comment. Well I'm not too far away and the lies of the anti mormon have only been refuted for decades by
FAIRLDS.org
for the truth
LDS4Life71 10 months ago
@LDS4Life71 "spamingsoloman, and others"
give them a few weeks, they will change their names and come back. Same old garbage.
omiolo 10 months ago
I hate how the church says "OH THE BOOK OF MORMON TEACHES US TO DO STUFF"- but it's a history book. I read all of it, and I found no actual teachings in it other than "BE A MORMON"
bobmuffins 1 year ago
@bobmuffins haha, what the heck are you talking about?! look up the meaning of a parable, thats how jesus taught by stories that we can compare and relate to our own life. The book of mormon has hundreds of stories of God's relationship with people in their day.. God works in the same exact manner in our lives today.. so any story where a person showed faith, for example, can add to your faith if you ponder the teachings...
glycoboy 1 year ago
@glycoboy God works in the same exact manner in our lives today.
God comes down to us and talks to us? Holy shit I'm blind.
bobmuffins 1 year ago
I thank the Lord for the restoration of the true church, the true religion through Joseph Smith. Now when I pray. I pray to the true God. My heavenly father. He listens and answers my prayer. I know without a doubt, if I keep myself worthy, I will be able to be in his presence eternally with my family!
oncom2008 1 year ago 2
Allahsarmy: Do you even know what a translation is? It is taking a document a language of origin and converting that document to another language using words in that new language tha most closely reflect the original meaning in the original language. Of course Joseph Smith used English and American words, so we'd understand, in a manner as accurate as possible, what the original text said. Anyone who studies languages and has translated, knows this. I have that type of experience.
79Janosik 1 year ago
Your Religion is False and why i think its False is Because through reading you Holy Book i Noticed a few times where J.s Sliped up, From what Language did you say he translated from ??? It was Originally "Writen" about 600Bc YET I HAVE FOUND THE WORD ................... HIGHWAYS that is an american word that was not for sure around 600BC Along with Spelling Mistakes, Endless Things if theres any Mormon Ready to Challange Me to Proove im wrong Message me i will listen to what you have to say
Allahsarmy 1 year ago
The Book of Mormon is the most correct book in the world?
WABOBS!!!!
MrTrilliondollarman 1 year ago
The beginning: building and budgeting
Early in 1929, the Lincoln Ward was formed in the Granite Stake. Additionally, stake divisions caused the old Granite Tabernacle to fall within the Grant Stake boundaries instead of the Granite Stake. Built in 1903 and torn down in 1956, the old tabernacle was located at 3300 South and State Street, where the Century 16 Theaters stand today.
omiolo 1 year ago
Speaking of her father's famous storytelling, she stressed the importance of discovering and remembering the lessons from his stories rather than the stories alone. "When we listen to him, always ask yourself, 'What is the lesson he's teaching? And how am I going to incorporate this lesson into my life?'" she said.
omiolo 1 year ago
Ashley Shaum, a recent graduate of BYU–Idaho and currently a resident of Laie, attended the service project and enjoyed this opportunity to give back to the community. "It felt really good to get out and do some service. It was encouraging to see so many people come out to support," said Shaum.
omiolo 1 year ago
Members of the Laie community and the BYU–Hawaii ohana joined with communities across Hawaii to beautify the island on Saturday, May 8, as part of the Mormon Helping Hands Program.
omiolo 1 year ago
Prior to the dedication of the district center, Elder Christofferson hosted a luncheon honoring Chuuk Gov. Westley Simina. Elder Christofferson presented to the governor and the people of Chuuk a mobile desalinization unit and generator donated by the Church.
omiolo 1 year ago
Both were visibly touched. Before leaving the airport, they took time to shake hands with all the members, many having walked miles to see Elder Christofferson.
omiolo 1 year ago
CHUUK, MICRONESIA
During a May tour of Asia and the Pacific, Elder D. Todd Christofferson of the Quorum of the Twelve dedicated the newly completed Namoneas Chuuk District Center in the Federated States of Micronesia on Wednesday, May 12.
omiolo 1 year ago
Joe was a very clever fella. No doubt quite charismatic. Amazing how many he convinced of his "visions" and "revelations".
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago
@Pacisdiligo Joseph was a VERY honest man. Willing to die for what he knew to be true! In fact to this day the wicked STILL attack him!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
I would suggest assuming a more skeptical stance toward any and all religious truth-claims. Try reading, with an open mind, even material critical of your particular faith. You may be surprised by what you learn.
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago
@Pacisdiligo please tell me about the neutral party books or accounts about Joseph Smith you have read?
GOTCHA!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
There is no such thing as absolute objectivity. I am not, and neither are you. There are no perfectly "neutral" sources of information pro or con. However, by reading a well-rounded selection of sources you will find that you can make a more informed decision on any subject.
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago
@Pacisdiligo please go BACK and read what I wrote. Please do NOT try and rewrite what I wrote.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Eh? Aside from essentially agreeing w/ the point you were making via your (rather sarcastic) rhetorical question, which part is a "rewrite"??
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago
@Pacisdiligo You may be surprised if you have faith and pray for truth instead of just reading things that mean nothing. The BOM teaching along with faith and action will lead to true happiness.
jake8232 1 year ago 2
@jake8232: "..have faith and pray for truth"? Could you be any more vague? Or more subjective? What a meaningless statement. And what do you mean by "..reading things that mean nothing"? You mean like science, history, logic and geography books? And why would I pray as to the BOM's alleged veracity when simple observation indicates that it is not? As for "true happiness", I am truly happy with my life as it is. But thanks for caring.
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago
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FireYourJOB 1 year ago
I believe Joseph Smith was buried with the sun stone around his neck i guess that was his key stone if anyone wants to know what the sun stone represents its a minian false god. its bassically the god who is the sun but is spirit there fore is Isis
who was married to the god of the dead and king of the ghouls Osiris. Translation all one satan
TheBookofEnoc 1 year ago
The BOK has been proven to be false and, in a nutshell, a load of rubbish. smith was a false prophet and a 33rd degree freemason. SOme of these false prophecies are found here: Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pages 17-18; History of the Church, 1:315-316; 1833,History of the Church, 5:394; May 1843,History of the Church2:191
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 History of the Church 2:191, History of the Church, 5:336, Doctrine & Covenants 87:1-6, Dec. 25, 1832.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 I wish you could put DOWN the ANTImormon propaganda and embrace the LIVING God and His Church!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo I am simply telling the truth. The lds church is anti-Christian. I am not "anti" anything, if anything, i am "pro-truth". And that truth is that smith was a terrible man and a false prophet.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 you can NOT even tell the truth about telling the truth! What bizarro world do you live in?
omiolo 1 year ago
That was about the same time the Internet was beginning to emerge from its more academic origins. But the technology of that day would not facilitate streaming audio or video, so an Internet broadcast of general conference was not yet on the landscape.
omiolo 1 year ago
And by 1994, when Alsop made those comments, the church was feeding conference broadcasts to more than 3,000 satellite downlinks at church buildings. Transmissions at the time were being picked up by 30 television stations, 1,218 cable systems and 36 ratio stations in the United States and Canada.
omiolo 1 year ago
Excellent!
Christibel 1 year ago
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And he gave some apostles and some, prophets...for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry...Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God...
Ephesians 4:11-14
Are we in unity of the Faith yet?
nope
where are the apostles and prophets today?
The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
LDSapologist71 1 year ago
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =o I am never short of being truly amazed at how powerful the impact of The Word of the Lord can be, especially in regards to the prophecies of all of His prophets through the scope of time!!!! This video is so dead-on for these last days concerning the prophesies about secret combinations (SECRET SOCIETIES) and how they will be the downfall of the nation that upholds these practices. Wonderful job incorporating these prophetic warnings & the need to help spread truth!
lilnativemama03n1 2 years ago
I agree. He was so very right about the Civil War leading directly to Armageddon that it's scary.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
I am so thankful for the restoration of the Priesthood and the keys being restored to rightoues men, and very thankful for the Temple blessings, the prophet is a true prophet here on earth and was chosen by God the Eternal Father. Amen.
Esswope 2 years ago
"We think Orem City should pay us for revitalization!" quipped Brigham Ashton, a son of Alan and Karen Ashton. Brigham's company remodels the "Little Wonders" homes Ashton buys.
omiolo 2 years ago
The spiffed-up homes then not only bless the lives of those who are able to purchase their American dream, but bless the neighborhoods that no longer have an eyesore house in their area.
omiolo 2 years ago
OREM, Utah -- Karen Ashton isn't finished thanking God for her financial blessings.
In addition to helping create Thanksgiving Point with her husband as a gift for the community, spearheading the creation of the Timpanogos Storytelling Festival and serving in Canada with her husband in the Canada Toronto mission, she's now breathing life into a company that restores old homes for new owners.
omiolo 2 years ago
Nielsen added, "I attended Katie's funeral with the thought that I was going to honor Katie and demonstrate support and comfort to Justin and his family. Justin did such an incredible job with his comments during the memorial that he flipped the tables on everyone in attendance and provided comfort and support to us."
omiolo 2 years ago
Kendall R. Nielsen, a friend of the Youngs who has lived in Virginia Beach for four years, said Katie's death has affected their ward.
"She was on the mend (from Crohn's disease) and back to normal activity when she passed away," Nielsen wrote in an e-mail. "It is always shocking when a young parent passes away. ... Watching Justin holding his daughter during the memorial service was particularly poignant."
omiolo 2 years ago
and has slept with it ever since. My 8-year-old son, Justin, although less vocal about it, will lie face down over his mother's grave and just lie there, feeling the closeness that a mama's boy needs to feel when snuggling warm and close on his mother's chest and dwelling in the memory of those moments as if she were lying there right next to him.'"
omiolo 2 years ago
Intrigued, Wahid — who would later become the president of Indonesia — began peppering the Salt Lake City businessman with questions about his faith, wanting to know more about what Mormons believe and how the LDS Church's humanitarian service program worked
omiolo 2 years ago
SALT LAKE CITY — When Hal Jensen first met Abdurrahman Wahid, he told the blind Islamic cleric he couldn't drink the tea that was offered him because he was a Mormon.
omiolo 2 years ago
The Book of Mormon is the keystone of Mormonism; destroy this stone and all that it supports will come crashing down. Given the stakes involved, the very possibility of testing the book's historicity and authenticity becomes a moral obligation to do so. It is also an invitation to err on the side of caution and not reject it without due cause
omiolo 2 years ago
The Mormon position is the near opposite. Confirmation of historic details of The Book of Mormon would substantiate Joseph Smith's account of how it came to be, and thus validate his seership and the divine origin of both the book and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This brings us to the astonishing possibility of being able to test Joseph Smith's claims through science, a possibility that critics have long tried to exploit
omiolo 2 years ago
The same end could have just as easily been accomplished by Smith writing himself into a document which he claimed to be ancient.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
huh???
omiolo 2 years ago
Self explanatory.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
Claimed, and when looking into ancient origins for it, we see that vindicated more and more. The hebraisms in the text are evident throughout the book of Mormon.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
Ah, so you're going to go for the claims that chiasmus proves the BOM, eh? That might be impressive if we find that this was actually part of Smith's own writing style. I guess you didn't know that, did you?
And since we find chiasmus being used in nursery rhymes, by Confucius, or even Mae West, that must make them divinely inspired, too, right?
Since we know that Smith claimed to have studied the Bible from the age of 12 onward, it's pretty obvious that he absorbed that as well.
Fail.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
Actually, I never claimed that it proved anything. Rather, it lends rather strong evidence towards the antiquity of the text.
Chiasmus isn't simple flip-flop in the BOM, but lengthy discourse in this Hebrew pattern that spans whole chapters, with each chapter being part of the ABCDEDCBA etc. pattern. Joseph was no poet.
He, having only a third grade education, would never have been able to pick up on that and other writing styles and linguistic patterns.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
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"The hebraisms in the text are evident throughout the book of Mormon."
If you didn't think that supports your position, you wouldn't have said it.
On and on about his lack of education, yet you obviously haven't read any of his letters or things he wrote himself. While formally uneducated, he was of at least average intelligence. You also have to sift through what actually happened and the church's revision of its own history.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
You still have yet to explain cognitive accusitive, if-and clauses that had to be removed in some cases from later editions because they were too Hebrew to an english reader, etc.
So until you can address these things, it looks like you have an epic fail on your hands :)
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
Again, if Smith studied the Bible from the age of 12 until the BOM was 'translated,' that gives him 12 years to become familiar with the structure of the Bible.
We also have chiasmus throughout the D&C, too, showing that it was, indeed, his own writing style.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
Again, having a third grade education in his day would not have sufficiently taught him of writing structure, as we can see that he could barely spell. The fact that there are different chapters in the book of Mormon that have a unique voice due to the different ancient authors lends even more evidence to its authenticity.
You avoided the other hebraisms I brought up.
And yes, after he was called by God and the Spirit was upon him, he truly increased in his knowledge and intelligence.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago 2
What other "hebraisms" you brought up? The extensive detail about Jewish temple ceremonies, customs, and history? The things that the BOM doesn't bother to cover, yet includes Greek and Latin terms when Smith clearly said it did not?
But you're right, he couldn't spell well, and we find those same kinds of mistakes made in the 1830 BOM which is a direct translation of the plates? Odd how that works.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
Again, if-and clauses, cognitive accusitive, etc
Things Joseph would not have known about with his almost non-existent knowledge of Hebrew language and culture..
And again, he was saying these things to a scribe. Of course someone writing isn't going to be perfect. He is but a man. But God is not going to quibble about spelling errors, and they were corrected as Joseph looked at the earliest manuscripts and made corrections. He never actually went away from the text.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
But since he finally got around to 'restoring' the gospel, why wouldn't he have made it perfect? Why would it need to be immediately corrected with the 1831 edition?
And how could the first edition have been so wrong about its Trinitarian view that it needed to be revised to reflect polytheism?
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
I see no evidence that the BOM contains anything relevent to ancient Judaism not already found in the Bible.
How, if this is the most correct book on earth, would god permit it to be published in 1830 as-was? I have a photocopy of it and it looks like it was written by someone who didn't have a very good grasp of English.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
This is the fine line you have to walk, claiming that Smith was barely literate and therefore not capable of writing the BOM, yet still competant enough to write letters and revelations from which you draw your doctrine.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
You clearly misrepresent what I have put forth, but so be it. Stay in that mindset if it brings you comfort.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
I've misrepresented nothing. I'm asking reasonable and logical questions and then following them to their logical conclusions. I also use the standards of Orson Pratt for evaluating Mormonism on its own terms.
That gives you the benefit of the doubt, an advantage I don't have.
The truth brings me comfort, thanks.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
Meanwhile, in Cambodia, Elder Lowell and Sister Cheryl Curtis from Riverton, Utah, organized a similar project, transporting 40 tons of rice to the Sandan District in northern Cambodia, providing almost 800 families with a 100-pound bag of rice. The Sandan District was hit by the same storm system that devastated Laos, destroying its residents' ability to plant crops of rice for the year.
omiolo 2 years ago
The intent of the committee was not to dictate the absolute correct way to pronounce the proper names, but rather to establish some uniformity. Today, thanks to Skousen, we have a more likely candidate for the correct pronunciation of the name Amalickiah.
omiolo 2 years ago
Decades after the Book of Mormon was published there was a wide diversity of ways that members pronounced Book of Mormon proper names. Finally, in the early 1900s a church committee was organized to produce a "pronunciation guide." This committee formulated a set of rules -- based on common English standards rather than revelation -- for pronouncing proper names.
omiolo 2 years ago
The Browning Home and Gunsmith Shop is where Jonathan Browning made and sold his famous repeating rifle. His son, John Moses Browning, would later be known as the inventor of the machine gun
omiolo 2 years ago
The Sarah Granger Kimball Home dates to the 1830s. While her husband, Hiram, ran a ferry service across the river to Iowa, Sarah organized women to sew shirts for the men building the Nauvoo temple. The organization grew into what's now known as the LDS Relief Society, with 5.5 million members around the world.
omiolo 2 years ago
The hourlong wagon tours offer an excellent introduction to what there is to see and do. Visitors can then hop in their cars — this is a sprawling place — and stop at particular points of interest. For those with only a few hours to spend in Nauvoo, the highlights include:
omiolo 2 years ago
"No one thought this would ever be rebuilt," Hughes says. But in 1962, a handful of Mormons founded, and funded, Nauvoo Restoration Inc., a nonprofit enterprise now run by the church.
About 60 sites greet visitors. Many of the early homes are open for guided tours. At several shops, volunteers demonstrate crafts of the mid-19th century. At the bakery, visitors are treated to freshly baked cookies. Almost everything is open year-round.
omiolo 2 years ago
In the following years, the elements — and even arsonists — took their toll on the Mormon's former properties. Even the massive temple succumbed, both to an intentionally set fire and, later, a tornado.
omiolo 2 years ago
An uneasy peace held for almost two years, but in February 1846, amid growing unrest and further threats of violence, Young agreed to move his flock out of Nauvoo. Over the next few months, thousands crossed the Mississippi on a grueling trek westward to Utah, an exodus that author L. Matthew Chatterley, a church member, calls "the largest human migration in U.S. history."
omiolo 2 years ago
The town's young people are increasingly liberal, with young women far more likely to go out at night dressed to kill than they were a decade ago, Saba said. There are conservatives in the town, including Muslims who oppose drinking alcohol, he said, but they largely "keep it to themselves." "Take someone from New York or from Germany, and they'll only know Nazareth from the Bible— they think people over here are still riding donkeys," he said.
omiolo 2 years ago
At the bar, the brothers said, you might meet local celebrities like soccer players or the members of Chaos, Nazareth's contribution to Israel's heavy metal scene. The band's MySpace page says the band started as "four friends from Nazareth" and identifies its style as "melodic death metal."
omiolo 2 years ago
About three years later, "I realized I hadn't solved very much, but I had lost three precious years of enjoying the gospel. I was about to turn 25 years old and needed to serve a mission. I decided to return to Church the same way I left — alone."
He walked through the meetinghouse doors for the first time in three years in late summer of this year. It was fast and testimony meeting. He felt to bear his testimony.
omiolo 2 years ago
After being ordained an elder in June 2006, Florin felt he needed to solve some personal challenges before returning to Church and entered a period of inactivity. "I don't remember how it started," he said. "I hadn't lost my testimony and no one had offended me."
Quietly, without notice, he slipped away from Church activity.
omiolo 2 years ago
ANG: What are some elements of a blessing you need to do?
IRENE: Having total faith.
ANG: She caught it. She's quick.
RAYMOND: You're absolutely right, Irene. When Christ himself performed miracles...
omiolo 2 years ago
IRENE: When you are dunked in the water, believe me, you FEEL the Holy Ghost. You feel the difference. It's for real, and this is what I try to share with people.
REPORTER: Irene has health problems, and asked the elders to give her a blessing.
omiolo 2 years ago
President Hinckley modeled the fund initially after the Perpetual Emigration Fund of the mid-to-late 1800s, which helped more than 30,000 Latter-day Saint converts immigrate to the Salt Lake Valley from Europe.
omiolo 2 years ago
A young man in Peru who studied to become an accountant said, I am so grateful to God for this great opportunity to receive what my brothers and sisters did not have, to help my family, to accomplish my goals.
The Perpetual Education Fund also delivers self-respect, hope, Elder Carmack said. It is just beginning to achieve the vision of former Church President Gordon B. Hinckley; our current president, Thomas S. Monson; and our board of directors.
omiolo 2 years ago
Most of the accounts that describe the translation process were recorded long after the fact and are often second or third hand. Because Joseph did not share the details himself, however, it is from these other reports that scholars attempt to deduce what took place when Joseph translated the Nephite record.
omiolo 2 years ago
According to some of Joseph's closest associates as well as those who saw Joseph translate the Book of Mormon, when Joseph looked into the Urim and Thummim he was able to see the English translation. Some witnesses even claimed that Joseph spelled out proper names and the English text remained in view until it was written down correctly.
omiolo 2 years ago
"A Christmas Radio Show"
When: 6 & 8:30 p.m. Tuesday
Where: California Center for the Arts, Escondido, 340 N. Escondido Blvd., Escondido
Tickets: $6
Info: 760-839-4178, 800-988-4253
omiolo 2 years ago
When The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints first acquired the 100-acre farm in 1907, the forested grove was only about seven acres, according to Parrott. After the church acquired Hyrum Smith's farm to the north, the church-owned grove expanded to about 13 acres. It remained that size until 1998, when the church acquired adjoining wooded property. bringing the number of mature forested acres to 30 with another 30 acres of younger reclaimed forest that are 30 to 50 years old.
omiolo 2 years ago
Now why is it that I just read this in one of my new books? You're not even publishing your own inane thoughts but instead, plagiarizing someone else's.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
one of your new books??
omiolo 2 years ago
Well, I bought a bunch of new books, yes, such as Lucy Mack Smith's book, Latter-Day Hisotry, and several on the prophesies of Joseph Smith.
Should be a hoot!
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
may I suggest you read the LDS Scriptures FIRST. Since that is where LDS doctrine is located.
It seems to me that if you want to debate LDS Doctrine, you most know it especially straight from the source.
/not expecting you to change.....
omiolo 2 years ago
Come now, we've already had this discussion. You know that I've done that, starting with the BOM. That said, I find no doctrine at all in it at all. Can you tell me where's it's located?
On the second point, I agree and that's the reason I collect LDS text books and teaching manuals. I can't get a straight or consitant answer from the average, garden-variety member so I go to the source.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
you are asking where our doctrine is in our Holy Scriptures??
omiolo 2 years ago
No, in the BOM specifically.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
ALL over, chapters 32-34 of Alma contain some of my favorite doctrine. While many of the chapters of Moroni contain priesthood doctrines.
I highly doubt you have read the BOM.
omiolo 2 years ago
I guess your definition of doctrine differs greatly from mine. Where can I find the temple ceremonies in the BOM? How about the D&C? POGP? Baptism for the dead? Geneology? Anything?
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
Actually it is ALL in the LDS Holy Scriptures, in detail in fact.
However, the doctrine contained in the Book of Mormon is the doctrine necessary for salvation. I am sorry if you are so blinded by your own agenda to see that!
omiolo 2 years ago
I believe I asked for something a little more specific. Can't elaborate?
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
I am trying to get you to read the BOM, i even gave you SPECIFIC chapters to read. You seem to have this attitude about LDS doctrine that if you REFUSE to see it, it does NOT exist.
What am I to do but encourage you out of your IGNORANCE??
omiolo 2 years ago
As a matter of fact, I now own a total of five BOMs, dated 1957, 1963, 1977, 1981, and 1996.
And the best news that I have now found conclusive proof of where the final battle that resulted in the deaths of some 2.5 million people took place. You now have no excuse to say that we have nothing to prove your claims of BOM historicity.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
I would settle for a testimony of Jesus the Christ, in both word and deed. For you to be born again, NOT in the sense of TV EVANGELISM, but in the sense of being a new person. Dedicating to a life of goodness.
omiolo 2 years ago
Whew! I'm glad I'm not a 'TV evangelist!'
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
assuming you are telling the truth, I am GLAD you are NOT one too. Now if we could do something about Shawn McCraney........
omiolo 2 years ago
What reason would I have to lie, even to an opponent? I have never knowingly stated anything about Mormons or Mormonism that was false and on a couple of occasions, even corrected myself, have I not? And don't I, at times, defend Mormons from either blatantly hateful dissenters or people who know nothing about it?
As far as McCraney goes, I find nothing wrong with what he teaches. He uses his own style and if you have a problem with that, I don't know what to say about the matter.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
DESPERATION and PRIDE, you built a straw house and you want to keep it up as long as you can!
omiolo 2 years ago
Whatever you say, but everything I've stated can be proven with your own texts and the words of your prophets and apostles. You conveniently choose to ignore them.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
@moparmonster1965
ALL I have said is that LDS Doctrine is contained in LDS Holy Scriptures.
If you want to debate or even know LDS doctrine you MUST read those things and NOT avoid them!
omiolo 2 years ago
I've avoided nothing. But okay, then, show me where I can find the details of the temple ceremonies, where the priesthood is required (and where anyone but Jesus was a member of the Melchizadek priesthood), and a clear description of exaltation meaning godhood.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
@moparmonster1965
many things are hidden from the eyes of the wicked and the antagonistic and will continue to be until they humble themselves before the Maker and learn **line upon line, precept upon precept**.
omiolo 2 years ago
So what you're saying now runs contradictory to what you said before, about your doctrine being contained in your scriptures. How curious.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
ONLY the deceptive would find what I said contradictory.
NOT curious, but DESPERATE!
omiolo 2 years ago
The third possibility is that you conveniently forgot is an alternative mean through creative misinterpretation.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
It was almost an artificial environment with little wildlife and almost no indigenous wildflowers.
omiolo 2 years ago
It was just open and park-like. It was so open that from one side you could see right out the other side. Every tree and branch and twig that came down was cleaned up and hauled away," Parrott said in a telephone interview. "It was pretty -- and some people like that parklike appearance -- it bore little or no resemblance to the forest that the Smiths would have encountered or that Joseph would have gone to."
omiolo 2 years ago
"Certainly Miguel Medel didn't consider himself the greatest actor in the world. But in terms of vocals and in terms of the way he portrayed himself in a very dignified manner, his vocals were outstanding. He came out of a cocoon to give a great, great performance."
omiolo 2 years ago
"It's the first time he's done anything like this," Brother Gomez said. "He was telling me all along that he was afraid that he was going to get so nervous he was going to forget the music and his lines.
omiolo 2 years ago
Sister Gentry is just one of more than 18,000 Church members around the world who fulfilled a Church-service mission during 2008. That number of members serving in this large army of volunteers is estimated to be higher in 2009.
omiolo 2 years ago
Sweet. Keep up the good work! stand up, speak up... I like that.
hardbed 2 years ago
President Thomas S. Monson, in a taped message that was played at the conference, said, "How I wish Sister Monson and I could be there with you to extend our love to you in person and to partake of your spirit." He spoke of the 77th Infantry Division in World War I, which came to be known as the "lost battalion" because of their refusal to surrender and resulting total isolation. "Men volunteered more readily, fought more gallantly, and died more bravely," he said.
omiolo 2 years ago
Paul Gilbert was feeling serendipitous.
"I'm feeling good, very positive," said Gilbert, president of the Tempe Arizona University Stake and real estate attorney who represented The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in its effort to obtain a zoning variance for the planned Phoenix Temple.
omiolo 2 years ago
Despite opposition, Phoenix temple inspires thanks
omiolo 2 years ago
She said the knitting project has helped the girls bond even more closely as they worked hard to reach a common goal.
"Once they got into the swing of it, they've been having a really fun time making them," Zima said. "These `heavenly hats' are made in love."
omiolo 2 years ago
According to Pat Zima, one of the leaders of the young women's program at the church, the women's program has been active in the church since the early 1900s. Their next project will be collecting pennies through June for the "Pennies for Pink" program through Gilda's Club.
The young women's program "really helps the girls in the church and teaches them to help each other and treat each other right," Zima said.
omiolo 2 years ago
Most of the girls didn't know how to knit before they tackled the project, but all agreed that they enjoyed the challenge.
"The first week we didn't think we could do it," said Stephanie Hall, 17. "I had never even thought about" knitting.
omiolo 2 years ago
"It's just nice to know that (the hats) are going to someone who needs them," 14-year-old Rachael Dietz said with a smile. "It was fun hanging out together and doing it."
Dietz's 13-year-old sister, Jade, knows what it's like to be in an orphanage. She was adopted out of the St. John's Home and knows the great needs there.
"It really helped to see how much we needed stuff like that," she said.
omiolo 2 years ago
"It's been the joy of my life, now to be able to relearn Spanish in a new way and work on this production," he said.
"El Salvador del Mundo" represents diversity in more than being a second-language version itself. Many actors and singers are making their first foray into such a production or are transitioning from concert- or choir-type performance backgrounds.
omiolo 2 years ago
"Everybody is so excited to see it happen onstage," said costume director Carla Montesino, who has helped on past LDS Latino Christmas productions. "We're being pioneers in many ways, since this is the first time it's being done in Spanish."
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For artistic director Paul Walstad, it's a chance to revisit the Spanish language he learned on his LDS mission more than two decades ago.
omiolo 2 years ago
President Joseph F. Smith wrote, As I pondered over these things which are written, the eyes of my understanding were opened, and the Spirit of the Lord rested upon me
omiolo 2 years ago
Was this before of after he violated 'God's' order to cease being a polygamist? He, of course, just kept on doing so anyway, fathering 11 children and thus being ultimately convicted under Utah's anti-polygamy laws in 1904.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
so JFS was suppose to DIVORCE his wives?
Leave his children fatherless and where would his wives live since the United States gov't denied them civil rights?
maybe you should learn to think things through???
omiolo 2 years ago
As far as I know, that's not what the laws state, but they are very clear the polygamy is a no-go.
You mentioned leaving his 'children fatherless,' but didn't explain why went on to create even more, thus violating the law of god and the land.
Why don't the laws apply to the prophet?
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
If you choose to have a celebrate marriage, that is your choice. Please do NOT expect others to follow that!
omiolo 2 years ago
My marriage is fine, thank you. It didn't need to be in the temple of a false prophet to a false god.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
oh, so you went to the true Temple, to the true God, the Most High God??
you remind me so much of Aaron Shav. So full of himself, ignoring what the Bible says etc.
omiolo 2 years ago
I rely ONLY on the Bible. I don't need to read it through the rose colored glasses of it missing many 'plain and precious things,' which need propped up by the lame BOM.
moparmonster1965 2 years ago
which Bible do you read?
which of the 1000's of different Bibles do you read?
omiolo 2 years ago