The twist comes from the load. Place your heaviest part of the load over the stress points, it will twist. The same would happen to the Chevy had the load been placed the same.
i still a ford girl. they are built a hell of a lot better than gm products. my parents had a 2005 chevy uplander and we bought it in 2007. the transmission started slipping about a year after we got it and then the abs light kept coming on after it had been in the shop numerous times for the abs. and then in october of last year we took it for the abs and transmission and then the engine died. so we had to get a new car. crappiest car ever. my dad has a '97 f150 and it still runs perfectly. (:
@MadBassist2 dude there's a reason why not many people take a Titan or Tundra it's because in general both companies aren't known for making descent trucks
@JDYDesigns It was linked in a forum I read. I'll give it to you straight, I don't like either of the. I don't like the dodge either. I just plain don't like new trucks.
the thing that bothers me is I have never seen a superduty flex that much, even the older ones with less cross members and less advanced frames, I think they screwed with the frames to get them to move this much.
in all realitly.....IFS sucks on a heavy duty live on big farm we have 3 super duties... never ran into a problem like this.... no one ive ever talked to really has???... this is just chevy "trying" to make themselves look good by fooling people
ok guys this is gonna be hard to explain with ut words.. but its the suspension it really has nothign to do with the frame... both are fully boxed frames! the IFS tho can adjust up front to the terrain, where the SFA the axle has to do exact oppisote of the other side putting more strain on the frame in a test like this... think about it, as the chev goes up the ramp on one side the wheels can independtly adjust, where when the super duty goes the first climbing the ramp forces the other down
@TheFullRev I own both their both alright, I tend not to compare the ones I own because ones a half ton (tahoe), and and my other truck is an F250. The Tahoe is also kinda tired after 140K of limited maintenance. That being said I loved my tahoe, I just wanted a 7.3 because I was looking for a reliable tried and true engine.
Wow GM finally decided box the whole frame! It only took them forty years to realize the benefits of this? Hell the crappy jap trucks have doing this for years! Gee when I think about it years ago when I worked at U-haul as a mechanic, we had a big campaign to try and save the 1994 model year GMC C3500's (DC R models) because the frames would bend in the middle just behind the cab. Ford has always had a stronger frame untill now I guess. Obama motors (GM) still sucks!
@89z24 you sound ignorant chevys always made a better truck I got a cummins in a chevy with a ford dana 60 be intelligent and make your own perfect truck because every one has there own brain farts
@cammingchevy true, but not everyone always has the money or the know-how to "make the perfect truck" for themself. Not to mention it's less work to just buy a truck that already has a solid front axle than spend the time and money to do a solid front axle swap on a newer chevy (especially 07+, parts are expensive as fuck). Granted chevy's have a good rep for long lasting motors and transmissions, but for a truck that sees any kind of heavy-duty work or offroad use, IFS is shit.
IFS is Junk. I would rather go thru a tail gate a year then try to keep up with Indipendent front suspension shit. Chevy is such a fucking fail they have resorted to this I would take a FORD OR DODGE any say of the week over a GM POS
this is the most bull shit ever, ive seen super dutys at work all the time, i work in construction in northern wisconsin, and ive also seen the chevys to ive seen maybe one ford have a frame issue, but the duramax's i see them blowing heads. pistons, and all that jazz while they tow lumber trailers and concrete mix, also once they hit the off road they blow suspension soooo easily and the dodge cummins by far is in the running, i like all the diesels but really? this is the most riged shit ever
@EV1LDC4Teggy really? you do realize that if it was worse or as bad as the Ford, they could have boosted their sales even more because less people would have bought the Dodge. They didn't show the Dodge because this AD is rigged and the Dodge out performed the Chevy.
@EV1LDC4Teggy I'll stfu after you take your dick and eat it while I fuck your mom. What I said makes sense. You just can't stand that Dodge is better.
@tomcatdcn Better Idea is how about you do some fucking research you ass-hat and look into the actual results given by AMCI testing other than thinking You Tube videos from Chevy are proof of anything. You dumb ass people never cease to amaze me. Real world test results were so pathetic with the Dodge that they left them out of the videos all together because it just couldn't compete. Dodge has the poorest built truck of the 3 and it showed clearly. Search for the paper results Faggot.
@tomcatdcn Bro, you can easily find articles written on these tests. They were not shown in several of the tests because they were not competitive period. Infact in "rumble in the rockies", they didn't run the ram because it was deemed unsafe to do so because it exceeded their gross combination weight rating. It is a 3rd place truck. I'm not hating on Dodge. I'd like to see a new test with the new High Output version of the Ram 3500. Think it would be a different story then. RESEARCH BRO
@EV1LDC4Teggy LMAO . . . no offense personally but that is one of the most ridiculous comments I've read on here. . . "3rd place truck so they don't even bother"? Bullshit! If indeed these tests were conducted to the standards of AMCI which would mean something like 24 tests in each category as they stated in the first video, then of course they would have bothered to test the Dodge against the Chev (and indeed, the Ford as well).
@Heaugerkerkerk1 Also, the Dodge 3500 w/ Cummins diesel engine is rated at 350hp and 800lb-ft if tq, not 350/650 as these videos state. As for "Search for the paper results", how about real results? Go off-roading in a Chevy, any chevy but preferably an HD because they claim to have the strongest frame and suspension as these tests claim. See how many CV axles you snap in half compared to an F-150 Raptor or how often you have to get towed out the mud or a ditch by a Dodge Power Wagon.
IFS is the strong point? yes.. and obama has done good for america..(sarcasm) .. i mean i like chevy... just wish they had the solid front.. IFS is ridiculous.. ive had the tires start toe-ing in on some heavy loads on the farm. not a good situation.. especially when the wheels start hopping.
A stupid entity may realize that it is incompetent or silly. A retarded does not even know how backward they are. This is retarded. To be fare this needs to be done on an open cab chassis so we know that that all frames are not spliced or the bed is loosened. IFS -- how many Chevy's break their IFS on real 4 wheeling - a LOT.
rigidity isnt always a good thing. too rigid and stuff can crack or snap. its an all new redesigned frame for chevy this year. i look forward to seeing many issues with it in the future. they should have gone down with the economy if it werent for the bailout.
@sc your weak argument sets up a false dichotomy: EITHER a frame is not rigid, OR it must "snap", which is absurd. Further, the frame is the mounting point for critical components. The more the frame twists, the more likely you are to damage components...like cracking a transmission case, or whatever. Why can't people just state facts instead of bullshit. I am being completely serious: are you stupid? are you paid by ford? what do you get for this nonsense?Same BS as in politics.
@kenfo0 what you failed to see is the CAN and NOT ALWAYS A GOOD THING from my previous comment. I would agree 100% that fords frame flexes WAY more than i would feel comfortable with but i also know that driving through something like that with 3000lbs in the bed is RARELY going to happen. (I mean who would go offroading through ruts with that kind of weight in the bed if i was someone who did it all the time i would want a chevy)
@scottjackson1209 I was correct. Also, many people, who are driving others' equipment on the job, would drive anywhere w/anything in the bed w/o thought or caring. I think all the trucks today are so good that the avg person would be hard pressed to need their capabilities. I grew up when a "1/2 ton" carried about a 1/2 ton and wallowed and wheezed while doing it. I am simply pointing out that Ford likes to talk about frame flex...when to their advantage...
(cont.) i personally love the trucks of all manufacturers especially if its diesel. Chevy has alot going for them but my personal preference is Ford. (still like Dodge and Chevy) but Fords are all my family has ever owned for generations.
@JustAnotherGay96 These are obviously rigged. Look at the other videos and you'll see the Ford and the Chevy racing in a clip with the Ford clearly ahead. Also if you look closely the Ford is driven up higher. Rigged. No doubt.
These guys are /-\ssh0les. They probably put the lowest end stuff in all the other trucks and the highest end stuff they could POSSIBLY get in their P.O.S Chevy. And the Ford obviously twists because it was MADE TO so that it doesn't put as much strain on the body and mess your truck up...Idiots.
@KD35GOARMY lmao, more like the Ram is too good. The only reason why it was compared in the first two tests was because it was equiped with its older Cummins 6.7, the High Output one thats now availible is rated at 800 ft/lbs, and with a 6spd RFE transmission I can guarantee it would leave the Chevy is a cloud of dust
@xaploq1 amen to that. I drive a chevy and love it, but I'd like to see how the Chevy's independent front suspension with torsion bars compares to the Dodge Power Wagon's 4 link solid front axle with coilovers . . . because I can tell you which one is superior in almost all off-road situations, regardless of manufacturer.
Well all commercials are bias... remember there were three trucks! when chevy was beat, they only used the one that lost... ALL manufacturers do this! Buy the truck you Like.
Too many people hating on Chevy. However, none of these tests are accurate. Every company tries to make the other look bad. Each of these trucks is better than the other two in its own way. The only reason I wouldn't drive a Ford or Dodge is because I'm loyal to Chevy. There are people out there loyal to Dodge and Ford that are thinking the same thing. "I drive what I like."
godamn this is bullshit.. "er er well tell me how this is stronger then the ford." "Well cotton the chevy is built on a tough steel frame.." no shit douche bag, i coulda told you that 20 beers deep. Im not patranizing ford even though ima ford guy, but its also bullshit how ford is running their tests and they say there truck is the best. and we allknow dodge isnt even in the running.
Anyone else find it VERY odd the only comparison Chevy shows, between themselves and Dodge, is the comparison of their V8 Isuzu engine against Dodge's Cummins 6 cylinder engine? Very odd, eh?
To the dodge lovers. They silverado had NO flaws, how can another truck beat it? They probably didn't do the Dodge because the whole truck would have snapped in half, watch all the other challenges, the Dodge is ALWAYS IN LAST. They're known for 100k mile motors and interior. Atleast the Cummins is good, but that has nothing to do with being made by Dodge.
@gorfnation they're for towing and off road. and the ecoboost is a v6, only people interested in that kind of truck are little sissy girls, those are pointless. v8 is the way to go
The silverado is trying to hard to look beefy. The entire front end is chrome, and the interior is way to car like. The Super Duty looks like a truck, and the interior is still truck like. If anything the Super Duty came would come out better in real life. Some frame give is desirable, it keeps the frame from cracking. And as for the dent in the tail-gate, it was just a stress buckle, as soon as you backup it would pop back out. And i highly doubt anyone parks their truck like that.
ford flex like a real off road truck, why do you think people with jeeps do solid axle swaps come on chevy maybe you should admit you were wrong and get a solid front axle
If you want a fair test do your chevy HD up against a 450 or a 350. Or are they saying by not testing those that they are better that Chevy's HD's and aren't a fair match up?
this is all a sales tactic. ford sells more because they are better. if a fully boxed frame is better. WHY DONT REAL TRUCKS USE THEM like KW, Peterbilt and such???. The FB frames are ruined if you over load them because they crack and buckle, then guess what NEW TRUCK TIME cant fix FB frames. GM had to redesign the whole frame JUST TO BE ON PAR WITH FORD. the SD frame is based of the 1980-1997 OBS truck frame LETS COUNT 1980 -2011= 31 years! similar chassis. If It isn't broke don't fix it
you know i always liked the flex in my ford frame, i could get up to a 2 inch gap between the cab and the bed, that and the twin i beam suspension, of course my truck is 23 years old so i cant say much about the new ones. I love my 78 chevy and my 88 ford both, too bad my chevy dosent run right now...:)
I'm laughing at the "stiffness doesn't equal strength" comments I keep seeing. If you were in a similar situation and your twisted up ford buckles it's tailgate like that I gardiner you're going to say "shoulda bought a chevy". I also drive an F250 for work every day, and those that say sfa is better than ifs, I'll task an is any day over sfa for a DD, never have I been in a rougher riding truck, and the handling characteristics on rough choppy pavement, especially when cornering is dangerous.
IM A RAM GUY BUT CHEVY NICE JOB... JUST GET A NEW INTERIOR AND I WILL CONSIDER IT BUT OTHER THAN THAT GREAT JOB NOW FORD CMON GET A NEW TRUCK OUT THERE YOUVE HAD THE SAME THING SINCE 1998 GET REAL!!!!!!!!
k would u rather have your read tire and back cab stay stiff and shoot up into the air making u more uunblanced or what your tire and read sitll level making more counter wait
the dodge is gone because chevy obviously isn't concernced with them based on their sales. Dodge lies and they're trucks fall apart, theyre bragging about their engine and it sucks
@saloontamoon i'm a chevy guy, but at the time of these videos dodge wasn't rated the same for payload and towing as the ford and gm. so thats why they weren't included in most of these tests. but dodge has re evaluated their ratings since
Umm, again where's the Dodge test that beat the chevy test? ... You guys like hiding stuff that makes you look bad, instead of developing a quality product?
Yeah but if u go to pull a truck or a sled at a truck pull that (CALLED INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION) will snap because chevy put a fourwheeler front end underneath it go with the truck that has been leading for 30+ years FORD SUPERDUTY
@GtGills ok true, but most people arent using there trucks to do a sled pull. theyre using them to do hard work. and chevy built theres to be the all around best hard working trucks.
@GtGills that is a stupid comment. I'm pretty sure ford taurus has "outsold" the flagship BMW. If someone offered to give you either, only a moron would take the taurus. If you can't state FACTS, why yammer? Do you have evidence of Chevy front ends "snapping" in regular use? You don't, but I thought I'd be fair and ask. I am not a brand moron, you obviously are. Why not just talk in facts? Both these companies lie as easily as a person falling down. You aren't any better, sadly.
@kenfo0 You want evidence of Chevy front ends "snapping" in regular use? I drive a Chevy and I've gone through 2 CV axles, 2 pairs of torsion bars, 1 front end shock, 1 rear axle (GM corporate 10 bolt axle), 2 front wheel bearings, 2 brake calipers, and 1 fender all since January 2011. Compare that to how many suspension components out of a Dodge 2500 Power Wagon's 4-link solid front axle with coilovers break when put through pretty much the same amount of abuse.
@Heaugerkerkerk1 I know a guy who got shot in the head, and he is still alive and largely normal. Therefore, getting shot in the head is no big deal? Hardly. You provide anecdotal "evidence" of "i had a bad truck, therefore, everything that company makes is bad." It is an idiots argument. You end with "compare that with....". How would I do that, given you didn't say you owned one and what problems you did or didn't have? I'm hoping you "get it", now. Public school is worthless...
@kenfo0 First of all, how does some guy getting shot in the head have to do with anything? Red herring and derogatory comments FTW "I'm hoping you get it now. Public school is worthless" Sounds like that's where you need to go back to. Did you get shot in the head when you were younger? Second you said you wanted evidence of "Chevy front ends snapping" that seems pretty clear right there I didn't necessarily say chevy/GM sucks with everything they make.
@Heaugerkerkerk1 Like most people today, you are a facking moron. I gave a clear, simple analogy to show your stupid, lazy "logic". You, being stupid and lazy, whine "whutz uh geye gittin shot half two due wif.....". Please shut up now. Your opinion is worthless. You SHOULD be ashamed, but won't be. Instead, you'll likely come back with witless nonsense. You are the reason for the fall of America....stupid, lazy, immoral dopes.
@kenfo0 And once again, you respond with flaming and insults rather than anything rational to back up your argument. Nice quoting btw, that's exactly how I spelled everything. Your original post was something like "Do you have any evidence of Chevy front ends 'snapping' in regular use" to which I responded with my person experience of such evidence. I didn't say "I drive a Chevy and it sucks so everything GM produces sucks" which is what words you're putting in my mouth.
@Heaugerkerkerk1 ASSHOLE: stop spamming me. Through analogy, I proved your "proof" to be absurd. You have no proof. You got a lemon, now you cry like a little girl. Grow up. I am VASTLY more intelligent than you...the fact you can't follow a simple, clear analogy proved that. Can you now just shut the fuck up and go spam someone else now, you cry baby? Here's your next topic: gravitee ain't workin cuz eye gumped offn tha grownd yestidee...
@kenfo0 Wow,who's the crybaby now? LOL. You're the one who's crying and bitching because you obviously can't handle being wrong or the fact that maybe, just maybe, there's someone who knows more about the subject you're arguing about than you. What makes me the spammer here anymore than you? "I am VASTLY more intelligent than you" LMAO! If only I had a dollar for everytime I heard a complete moron say that. &you think your analogy was intelligent when it had NOTHING to do with the subject.
@kenfo0 And as for the so-called "fall of America", first of all I'm not even from there (thank God), and secondly I think it's people like yourself who childishly attack others and refuse to see sense because of their own pigheaded logic who contribute to that. You seem offended that anyone would disagree with you and ready to lash out at anyone who does which is typical of the "arrogant, ignorant American" stereotype that many people familiarize with today.
@kenfo0 And no, I don't own a Dodge power wagon which I used for an example although I have driven many different trucks, both IFS and solid axle and I can tell you which one of the two breaks less suspension components and is generally better for heavy-duty applications.
the dodge beats the chevy in various tests, thats why its not there. both the chevy and the dodge are good trucks i have owned both but ford just isn't my thing
honestly, these trucks are expensive!! so who in there right mind is going to go fucking with them this much? in the bush ! really i mean REALLY jesus wake up most of the people out there dont do anything with these trucks, other than go to the grocery store, and wax them on the weekend. o yeah and i love howie (douche) he must get paid every time he says that its the truck of the year
Ford shouldn't have made such a big deal brew ha ha over the F150's frame a couple of years ago -- same company but different priorities? The 1/2 ton has proportionally stiffer frame than its 3/4 and 1 tons?
Wow - this video is for the gullable! Anyone that has been 4 wheelin' knows that you need some flex in the frame - only a fucking idiot would take that piece of shit chevy into the bush (and get stuck). The Ford shows that flexibility.
Everyone seemed to start these videos after Toyota did their video for the Tundra in the cattle ranch. Both Toyota and Ford have fully impressed me with their videos. Chevy however is hand picking tests to beat competition on, this is an age old tactic but they are making it reeeeaaaally obvious in these videos.
isn't it funny tho how chev has won every single test?? Because all these test may be done by AMCI testing, its still Chev... and they sure do compare themselves to ford a lot.... Chev, i will admit, you make a good truck, but i dont need your bias test results..
@sosep7630 This is one of those things were no matter what brand would to tests like this, that brand would win. Like if Dodge did a comparison like this, who would win? Dodge. Same thing with Ford or whoever. Thats why I don't like it when brands hold comparisons like these. However I heard pickuptrucks(dot)com did a test like this and the Chevy still came out on top, and they're not a brand biased website/company. Either way, I like all 3 brands. They all got things I like about them.
i like chevy but id like to see this done by a completely neutrel group.
Catsnopro500 1 week ago
@Catsnopro500 Yup couldnt agree more with ya i go with ford but i think either brand would try to make them selfs look good
dirtykuntify 3 days ago
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@Catsnopro500 Yup couldnt agree more with ya i go with ford but i think either brand would try to make them selfs look good
dirtykuntify 3 days ago
All 3 trucks are acceptable and get the job done. the one you buy depends on preference
CallMeMrIsrael1228 1 week ago
lol chevy all the way on this
93jeepercreeper 2 weeks ago in playlist Chevy Silverado HD-to-HD
"I'm no engineer."
Yeah--I can tell.
Plainsfyre 2 weeks ago
The twist comes from the load. Place your heaviest part of the load over the stress points, it will twist. The same would happen to the Chevy had the load been placed the same.
Plainsfyre 2 weeks ago
i still a ford girl. they are built a hell of a lot better than gm products. my parents had a 2005 chevy uplander and we bought it in 2007. the transmission started slipping about a year after we got it and then the abs light kept coming on after it had been in the shop numerous times for the abs. and then in october of last year we took it for the abs and transmission and then the engine died. so we had to get a new car. crappiest car ever. my dad has a '97 f150 and it still runs perfectly. (:
MrsPattinson897 3 weeks ago in playlist HD-to-HD
I HOPE THIS ISN'T A RENTAL .......LOL
edrich8 4 weeks ago
Only reason the chevy stays straight is because they use the same shocks/springs from the mid 80's.. Do the research.... I dare ya.
F250Harvest 1 month ago
@wurmy1012 I couldn't agree more. I' a Chevy lover but I'd take a Ram or F250 etc. over a Nissan Titan or Toyota Tundra any day.
MadBassist2 1 month ago 3
@MadBassist2 dude there's a reason why not many people take a Titan or Tundra it's because in general both companies aren't known for making descent trucks
Abduhamama 4 days ago
2:56 Cross-eyed engineer...
caulk04 1 month ago
Id take either. Hate the real enemy, Imports!
wurmy1012 1 month ago 4
@wurmy1012 Why are imports bad?
LgNdStRaNgEr 3 weeks ago
They tried this with a Honda Ridgeline but it couldn't make it up the ramps.
eliteskater08 1 month ago
wait wait wait....if you ford guys hate chevy,,,,why come here just to leave a bad comment....? fail on ford fans.
JDYDesigns 1 month ago
@JDYDesigns It was linked in a forum I read. I'll give it to you straight, I don't like either of the. I don't like the dodge either. I just plain don't like new trucks.
willman940 1 month ago
@willman940 lol true why pay $40,000 for a truck that in 10 years will be down to $3,000 and outdated?
JDYDesigns 1 month ago
the thing that bothers me is I have never seen a superduty flex that much, even the older ones with less cross members and less advanced frames, I think they screwed with the frames to get them to move this much.
NathansBackwoods 2 months ago
in all realitly.....IFS sucks on a heavy duty live on big farm we have 3 super duties... never ran into a problem like this.... no one ive ever talked to really has???... this is just chevy "trying" to make themselves look good by fooling people
Fiddick7 2 months ago
ok guys this is gonna be hard to explain with ut words.. but its the suspension it really has nothign to do with the frame... both are fully boxed frames! the IFS tho can adjust up front to the terrain, where the SFA the axle has to do exact oppisote of the other side putting more strain on the frame in a test like this... think about it, as the chev goes up the ramp on one side the wheels can independtly adjust, where when the super duty goes the first climbing the ramp forces the other down
Fiddick7 2 months ago
why is there so much hate against chevy, i guess all you guys drive ford.
TheFullRev 2 months ago
@TheFullRev I own both their both alright, I tend not to compare the ones I own because ones a half ton (tahoe), and and my other truck is an F250. The Tahoe is also kinda tired after 140K of limited maintenance. That being said I loved my tahoe, I just wanted a 7.3 because I was looking for a reliable tried and true engine.
willman940 1 month ago
Wow GM finally decided box the whole frame! It only took them forty years to realize the benefits of this? Hell the crappy jap trucks have doing this for years! Gee when I think about it years ago when I worked at U-haul as a mechanic, we had a big campaign to try and save the 1994 model year GMC C3500's (DC R models) because the frames would bend in the middle just behind the cab. Ford has always had a stronger frame untill now I guess. Obama motors (GM) still sucks!
multigilligman 2 months ago
@89z24 you sound ignorant chevys always made a better truck I got a cummins in a chevy with a ford dana 60 be intelligent and make your own perfect truck because every one has there own brain farts
cammingchevy 3 months ago
@cammingchevy true, but not everyone always has the money or the know-how to "make the perfect truck" for themself. Not to mention it's less work to just buy a truck that already has a solid front axle than spend the time and money to do a solid front axle swap on a newer chevy (especially 07+, parts are expensive as fuck). Granted chevy's have a good rep for long lasting motors and transmissions, but for a truck that sees any kind of heavy-duty work or offroad use, IFS is shit.
Heaugerkerkerk1 2 months ago
IFS is Junk. I would rather go thru a tail gate a year then try to keep up with Indipendent front suspension shit. Chevy is such a fucking fail they have resorted to this I would take a FORD OR DODGE any say of the week over a GM POS
89z24 3 months ago 2
@ 3:39 look at that ugly fender gap. it makes my eye bleed.
2011ChargerRT 3 months ago 2
@ 1:31 complete bull shit they had to of taken the crossmembers out of the tailgate
2011ChargerRT 3 months ago
@2011ChargerRT no ford just sucks as always just like Dodges
DSMeclipsegst 3 months ago
this is the most bull shit ever, ive seen super dutys at work all the time, i work in construction in northern wisconsin, and ive also seen the chevys to ive seen maybe one ford have a frame issue, but the duramax's i see them blowing heads. pistons, and all that jazz while they tow lumber trailers and concrete mix, also once they hit the off road they blow suspension soooo easily and the dodge cummins by far is in the running, i like all the diesels but really? this is the most riged shit ever
northerncustomsracin 3 months ago
Still No Dodge...wtf I'd have a dodge any ways, Looks Better haha Prob is better...thats why it aint on this video and the one before!!
Wezboren90 3 months ago
RIGGED
Gasoline500 4 months ago
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FORD ALL THE WAY!!! THESE VIDS ARE ALL FAKES!
Badbrad416 4 months ago
Ford... built like shit... But DIDN'T TAKE A GOVERNMENT BAILOUT!!!
EV1LDC4Teggy 4 months ago
they didn't do the dodge 3500 haha. Comes to show that dodge still rules.
tomcatdcn 4 months ago 2
@tomcatdcn Dodge blows bro. They didn't feel like wasting their time.
EV1LDC4Teggy 4 months ago
@EV1LDC4Teggy really? you do realize that if it was worse or as bad as the Ford, they could have boosted their sales even more because less people would have bought the Dodge. They didn't show the Dodge because this AD is rigged and the Dodge out performed the Chevy.
tomcatdcn 4 months ago
@tomcatdcn Refer back to previous comment please. Then stfu.
EV1LDC4Teggy 4 months ago
@EV1LDC4Teggy I'll stfu after you take your dick and eat it while I fuck your mom. What I said makes sense. You just can't stand that Dodge is better.
tomcatdcn 4 months ago
@tomcatdcn Better Idea is how about you do some fucking research you ass-hat and look into the actual results given by AMCI testing other than thinking You Tube videos from Chevy are proof of anything. You dumb ass people never cease to amaze me. Real world test results were so pathetic with the Dodge that they left them out of the videos all together because it just couldn't compete. Dodge has the poorest built truck of the 3 and it showed clearly. Search for the paper results Faggot.
EV1LDC4Teggy 4 months ago
@EV1LDC4Teggy IF THE DODGE WAS THAT BAD THEY WOULD HAVE HAD IN THE VIDEO FAGGOT. LEARN SOME ECONOMICS AND CORPORATE TACTICS.
tomcatdcn 4 months ago
@tomcatdcn Bro, you can easily find articles written on these tests. They were not shown in several of the tests because they were not competitive period. Infact in "rumble in the rockies", they didn't run the ram because it was deemed unsafe to do so because it exceeded their gross combination weight rating. It is a 3rd place truck. I'm not hating on Dodge. I'd like to see a new test with the new High Output version of the Ram 3500. Think it would be a different story then. RESEARCH BRO
EV1LDC4Teggy 4 months ago
@EV1LDC4Teggy LMAO . . . no offense personally but that is one of the most ridiculous comments I've read on here. . . "3rd place truck so they don't even bother"? Bullshit! If indeed these tests were conducted to the standards of AMCI which would mean something like 24 tests in each category as they stated in the first video, then of course they would have bothered to test the Dodge against the Chev (and indeed, the Ford as well).
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@Heaugerkerkerk1 Also, the Dodge 3500 w/ Cummins diesel engine is rated at 350hp and 800lb-ft if tq, not 350/650 as these videos state. As for "Search for the paper results", how about real results? Go off-roading in a Chevy, any chevy but preferably an HD because they claim to have the strongest frame and suspension as these tests claim. See how many CV axles you snap in half compared to an F-150 Raptor or how often you have to get towed out the mud or a ditch by a Dodge Power Wagon.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@tomcatdcn you killed it bro, lol straight up killed it XD
mreh5an 3 months ago
they definatly took out the cross beams on the f350, why didnt they show the same shots?
xxbal1inxx 4 months ago
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beamer , benz or bentley for life, fuck trucks.
tufkid91 4 months ago
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tufkid91 4 months ago
dodge smoked ford and dodge and didnt want to put it on the website or on the video
boozer06 4 months ago
Why don't you show the dodge? you don't even show the numbers on the chevy website, WTF.
cancerstick99 4 months ago
How do you make a good Chevy? Use someone else's motor and transmission.
VARITHMS 4 months ago
IFS is the strong point? yes.. and obama has done good for america..(sarcasm) .. i mean i like chevy... just wish they had the solid front.. IFS is ridiculous.. ive had the tires start toe-ing in on some heavy loads on the farm. not a good situation.. especially when the wheels start hopping.
thequietrebel420 5 months ago
The dodge probably out did them here so they didn't show it.
stormer1092 5 months ago
chevy has a long box and ford has a short box, of course it's going to flex more
saudimack 5 months ago
@saudimack look again lol, they are both 6.5' boxes on the SRW trucks...
strumem90 4 months ago
@strumem90 Ya I noticed that after I watched it again lol whoops... darn them camera angles!
saudimack 4 months ago
Ram won again!!!
alekslav84 5 months ago
A stupid entity may realize that it is incompetent or silly. A retarded does not even know how backward they are. This is retarded. To be fare this needs to be done on an open cab chassis so we know that that all frames are not spliced or the bed is loosened. IFS -- how many Chevy's break their IFS on real 4 wheeling - a LOT.
ishta 5 months ago
Wheres dodge the last 2 tests?
dodgeramguy85 5 months ago
@dodgeramguy85 winning
preems95 5 months ago
what happed to the dodge?? I think that it did better or just as good as the chevy and thats why they did not show it
tv321123 5 months ago
I guess Dodge won again!
best17driver 5 months ago
rigidity isnt always a good thing. too rigid and stuff can crack or snap. its an all new redesigned frame for chevy this year. i look forward to seeing many issues with it in the future. they should have gone down with the economy if it werent for the bailout.
scottjackson1209 5 months ago
@sc your weak argument sets up a false dichotomy: EITHER a frame is not rigid, OR it must "snap", which is absurd. Further, the frame is the mounting point for critical components. The more the frame twists, the more likely you are to damage components...like cracking a transmission case, or whatever. Why can't people just state facts instead of bullshit. I am being completely serious: are you stupid? are you paid by ford? what do you get for this nonsense?Same BS as in politics.
kenfo0 5 months ago
@kenfo0 what you failed to see is the CAN and NOT ALWAYS A GOOD THING from my previous comment. I would agree 100% that fords frame flexes WAY more than i would feel comfortable with but i also know that driving through something like that with 3000lbs in the bed is RARELY going to happen. (I mean who would go offroading through ruts with that kind of weight in the bed if i was someone who did it all the time i would want a chevy)
scottjackson1209 5 months ago
@scottjackson1209 I was correct. Also, many people, who are driving others' equipment on the job, would drive anywhere w/anything in the bed w/o thought or caring. I think all the trucks today are so good that the avg person would be hard pressed to need their capabilities. I grew up when a "1/2 ton" carried about a 1/2 ton and wallowed and wheezed while doing it. I am simply pointing out that Ford likes to talk about frame flex...when to their advantage...
kenfo0 5 months ago
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scottjackson1209 5 months ago
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(cont.) i personally love the trucks of all manufacturers especially if its diesel. Chevy has alot going for them but my personal preference is Ford. (still like Dodge and Chevy) but Fords are all my family has ever owned for generations.
scottjackson1209 5 months ago
dodge wins again!
alaskanboy99661 5 months ago
So what did we learn here? Buy dodge because dodge is better in both situations that matter most
besteli1 5 months ago
I bet. Since the suspension is so stiff. hint the tall gate sag video. That the chevy has the WORST ride quality
atvboy11 5 months ago
Rigged video, not showing what the Cummins did. Haha I knew watching these videos GM were gonna be biased on the content that they were gonna show.
krims0n70 5 months ago
Respond to this video... They did this with BOTH trucks.
jdp2496 5 months ago
@JustAnotherGay96 These are obviously rigged. Look at the other videos and you'll see the Ford and the Chevy racing in a clip with the Ford clearly ahead. Also if you look closely the Ford is driven up higher. Rigged. No doubt.
jdp2496 5 months ago
These guys are /-\ssh0les. They probably put the lowest end stuff in all the other trucks and the highest end stuff they could POSSIBLY get in their P.O.S Chevy. And the Ford obviously twists because it was MADE TO so that it doesn't put as much strain on the body and mess your truck up...Idiots.
jdp2496 5 months ago
wheres the RAM?
andreshates 5 months ago
wheres the dodge??
paulgnc24 5 months ago
WTF where is the dodge im a chevy guy and idk it seems to be pretty rigged to me what happened GM
xaploq1 5 months ago 21
@xaploq1 GM is too good thats why they dont show them
KD35GOARMY 4 months ago
@KD35GOARMY lmao, more like the Ram is too good. The only reason why it was compared in the first two tests was because it was equiped with its older Cummins 6.7, the High Output one thats now availible is rated at 800 ft/lbs, and with a 6spd RFE transmission I can guarantee it would leave the Chevy is a cloud of dust
DodgeMan360 4 months ago
@DodgeMan360 my bad i meant dodge is too good haha
KD35GOARMY 4 months ago
@xaploq1 Might wanna look into a Ram, man.
DodgeMan360 4 months ago
@xaploq1 amen to that. I drive a chevy and love it, but I'd like to see how the Chevy's independent front suspension with torsion bars compares to the Dodge Power Wagon's 4 link solid front axle with coilovers . . . because I can tell you which one is superior in almost all off-road situations, regardless of manufacturer.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
Well all commercials are bias... remember there were three trucks! when chevy was beat, they only used the one that lost... ALL manufacturers do this! Buy the truck you Like.
KerPlunkItDude 6 months ago
Ford is crap, and also is the most sold truck in the USA, which tells me one thing; american buyers are idiots
28power68 6 months ago
Too many people hating on Chevy. However, none of these tests are accurate. Every company tries to make the other look bad. Each of these trucks is better than the other two in its own way. The only reason I wouldn't drive a Ford or Dodge is because I'm loyal to Chevy. There are people out there loyal to Dodge and Ford that are thinking the same thing. "I drive what I like."
MadBassist2 6 months ago
Wheres the dodge, missing in 2 tests. obviously it out did the chevy!!!
puckboy12345678 6 months ago
godamn this is bullshit.. "er er well tell me how this is stronger then the ford." "Well cotton the chevy is built on a tough steel frame.." no shit douche bag, i coulda told you that 20 beers deep. Im not patranizing ford even though ima ford guy, but its also bullshit how ford is running their tests and they say there truck is the best. and we allknow dodge isnt even in the running.
truckguy92 6 months ago 5
So, where's the Dodge Rick?
fsxexpert 6 months ago 3
@fsxexpert
exactly they dont show it it would hurt them the only reason chevy wins is the power
greennick98 5 months ago
@greennick98 but you think the ford tests where they beat chevy are "true"? you are an idiot. they both lie to trick morons like you. grow up.
kenfo0 5 months ago
I find a certain level of twist is actually ideal & will lead to a longer lasting, comfortable truck.
Speaking as a cyclist concerning engineered suspension flex on non-suspension rigid frames.
Begbucks 6 months ago
So where's the Dodge in the twist test?
TheRealKraut 6 months ago 3
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Dodge the father, Ram the daughter, Stroken is alright, but Cummin is hotter. ;)
MitchellTechnologies 7 months ago
Chevy ♥
liljavi817 7 months ago
Anyone else find it VERY odd the only comparison Chevy shows, between themselves and Dodge, is the comparison of their V8 Isuzu engine against Dodge's Cummins 6 cylinder engine? Very odd, eh?
AndrewIda 7 months ago
but ram trucks are always bigger
justinhamberg 7 months ago
@justinhamberg
They aren't bigger at all. There all the same size.
TheTruthSetlingUFree 6 months ago
The Ford sounds SOOO much better than that Chevy.
97ride 7 months ago
They had a Dodge there, probably tested it, and had no twist in it.
Smigjo 7 months ago
all of these videos are bias. You can't tell which truck is better.
Salvadoreml 7 months ago
They probably didn't test the dodge cause they knew it would win.
thecarexpert21 7 months ago
To the dodge lovers. They silverado had NO flaws, how can another truck beat it? They probably didn't do the Dodge because the whole truck would have snapped in half, watch all the other challenges, the Dodge is ALWAYS IN LAST. They're known for 100k mile motors and interior. Atleast the Cummins is good, but that has nothing to do with being made by Dodge.
JrodCamaro 7 months ago
@gorfnation they're for towing and off road. and the ecoboost is a v6, only people interested in that kind of truck are little sissy girls, those are pointless. v8 is the way to go
JrodCamaro 7 months ago
@JrodCamaro that ecoboost ha more power and torque then the sissy chevys V8
JAKE101ish 7 months ago
they do a good job avoiding the cummins. hmmm. these guys are bigger BSers than NASA!
mootz383 7 months ago
Did anyone else notice where the trucks stopped? It's not much but the super duty did travel further onto the course...rigged?
xBLAKSUNZx 7 months ago
The silverado is trying to hard to look beefy. The entire front end is chrome, and the interior is way to car like. The Super Duty looks like a truck, and the interior is still truck like. If anything the Super Duty came would come out better in real life. Some frame give is desirable, it keeps the frame from cracking. And as for the dent in the tail-gate, it was just a stress buckle, as soon as you backup it would pop back out. And i highly doubt anyone parks their truck like that.
One3teen 7 months ago
hey ford guys search for this video on youtube, you will love it and laugh even more lol ► 2011 Ford F-150 EcoBoost "Head to Head" Towing Competition
gorfnation 7 months ago
when will u do this in a dulie in real life? i thought they are for towling not off road?
gorfnation 7 months ago
the dodge probebly won so they didnt show it doing the challenge
SIIITTTDOWNjr 7 months ago
ford flex like a real off road truck, why do you think people with jeeps do solid axle swaps come on chevy maybe you should admit you were wrong and get a solid front axle
Jrsoggybottomboy 7 months ago
look at how all of the fords wheels are still on the ground and chevy wheels lift up because of independent front suspension
Jrsoggybottomboy 7 months ago
If you want a fair test do your chevy HD up against a 450 or a 350. Or are they saying by not testing those that they are better that Chevy's HD's and aren't a fair match up?
q123477 7 months ago
this is all a sales tactic. ford sells more because they are better. if a fully boxed frame is better. WHY DONT REAL TRUCKS USE THEM like KW, Peterbilt and such???. The FB frames are ruined if you over load them because they crack and buckle, then guess what NEW TRUCK TIME cant fix FB frames. GM had to redesign the whole frame JUST TO BE ON PAR WITH FORD. the SD frame is based of the 1980-1997 OBS truck frame LETS COUNT 1980 -2011= 31 years! similar chassis. If It isn't broke don't fix it
jnk26 7 months ago
The Dodge broke down and was voted off the island in episode 2.
kd5eej 7 months ago
well what ever, i drive an 88 ford with a 12 valve cummins in it (with chevy trans mounts) and it rocks!
mattconner11 7 months ago
you know i always liked the flex in my ford frame, i could get up to a 2 inch gap between the cab and the bed, that and the twin i beam suspension, of course my truck is 23 years old so i cant say much about the new ones. I love my 78 chevy and my 88 ford both, too bad my chevy dosent run right now...:)
mattconner11 7 months ago
I'm laughing at the "stiffness doesn't equal strength" comments I keep seeing. If you were in a similar situation and your twisted up ford buckles it's tailgate like that I gardiner you're going to say "shoulda bought a chevy". I also drive an F250 for work every day, and those that say sfa is better than ifs, I'll task an is any day over sfa for a DD, never have I been in a rougher riding truck, and the handling characteristics on rough choppy pavement, especially when cornering is dangerous.
03canadianf5 8 months ago
Superdoody.
eltotoX 8 months ago
wheres the dodge?
kavillah 8 months ago 2
IM A RAM GUY BUT CHEVY NICE JOB... JUST GET A NEW INTERIOR AND I WILL CONSIDER IT BUT OTHER THAN THAT GREAT JOB NOW FORD CMON GET A NEW TRUCK OUT THERE YOUVE HAD THE SAME THING SINCE 1998 GET REAL!!!!!!!!
uberjorge5737 8 months ago
k would u rather have your read tire and back cab stay stiff and shoot up into the air making u more uunblanced or what your tire and read sitll level making more counter wait
huggysthejellyfish 8 months ago
the dodge is gone because chevy obviously isn't concernced with them based on their sales. Dodge lies and they're trucks fall apart, theyre bragging about their engine and it sucks
saloontamoon 8 months ago
@saloontamoon i'm a chevy guy, but at the time of these videos dodge wasn't rated the same for payload and towing as the ford and gm. so thats why they weren't included in most of these tests. but dodge has re evaluated their ratings since
outdoorsman767 8 months ago
stiffness does not equal strenght theyre trying to fool you all
xxlucas560rr1 8 months ago
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Umm, again where's the Dodge test that beat the chevy test? ... You guys like hiding stuff that makes you look bad, instead of developing a quality product?
rookiemcm77 8 months ago
Calling people "guy" is incredibly rude
mozillagenesis 8 months ago
@mozillagenesis His name is Guy
Windowsprougly 8 months ago
What a piece of s*** ford
Macot4264 8 months ago
Yeah but if u go to pull a truck or a sled at a truck pull that (CALLED INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION) will snap because chevy put a fourwheeler front end underneath it go with the truck that has been leading for 30+ years FORD SUPERDUTY
GtGills 8 months ago 14
@GtGills the new ifs is not the same as the old stuff .... stronger
outdoorsman767 8 months ago
@GtGills unless the bed snaps in half ;)
Jarhead1407 7 months ago
@GtGills ok true, but most people arent using there trucks to do a sled pull. theyre using them to do hard work. and chevy built theres to be the all around best hard working trucks.
TheArcticSledder 5 months ago
@GtGills fords a pile of shit since there new model all they have is problems now. Buy a real truck Chevy built like a rock !!!!!!!!!!!
maxis986 5 months ago
@maxis986 dodge obviously won this competition, or else they wouldve shown it. and if i didnt own a toyota i would own a dodge.
alaskanboy99661 5 months ago
@maxis986 Yeah slow like a rock to and don't even get me started on the front end of the chevy
GtGills 5 months ago
@GtGills that is a stupid comment. I'm pretty sure ford taurus has "outsold" the flagship BMW. If someone offered to give you either, only a moron would take the taurus. If you can't state FACTS, why yammer? Do you have evidence of Chevy front ends "snapping" in regular use? You don't, but I thought I'd be fair and ask. I am not a brand moron, you obviously are. Why not just talk in facts? Both these companies lie as easily as a person falling down. You aren't any better, sadly.
kenfo0 5 months ago
@kenfo0 You want evidence of Chevy front ends "snapping" in regular use? I drive a Chevy and I've gone through 2 CV axles, 2 pairs of torsion bars, 1 front end shock, 1 rear axle (GM corporate 10 bolt axle), 2 front wheel bearings, 2 brake calipers, and 1 fender all since January 2011. Compare that to how many suspension components out of a Dodge 2500 Power Wagon's 4-link solid front axle with coilovers break when put through pretty much the same amount of abuse.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@Heaugerkerkerk1 I know a guy who got shot in the head, and he is still alive and largely normal. Therefore, getting shot in the head is no big deal? Hardly. You provide anecdotal "evidence" of "i had a bad truck, therefore, everything that company makes is bad." It is an idiots argument. You end with "compare that with....". How would I do that, given you didn't say you owned one and what problems you did or didn't have? I'm hoping you "get it", now. Public school is worthless...
kenfo0 3 months ago
@kenfo0 First of all, how does some guy getting shot in the head have to do with anything? Red herring and derogatory comments FTW "I'm hoping you get it now. Public school is worthless" Sounds like that's where you need to go back to. Did you get shot in the head when you were younger? Second you said you wanted evidence of "Chevy front ends snapping" that seems pretty clear right there I didn't necessarily say chevy/GM sucks with everything they make.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@Heaugerkerkerk1 Like most people today, you are a facking moron. I gave a clear, simple analogy to show your stupid, lazy "logic". You, being stupid and lazy, whine "whutz uh geye gittin shot half two due wif.....". Please shut up now. Your opinion is worthless. You SHOULD be ashamed, but won't be. Instead, you'll likely come back with witless nonsense. You are the reason for the fall of America....stupid, lazy, immoral dopes.
kenfo0 3 months ago
@kenfo0 And once again, you respond with flaming and insults rather than anything rational to back up your argument. Nice quoting btw, that's exactly how I spelled everything. Your original post was something like "Do you have any evidence of Chevy front ends 'snapping' in regular use" to which I responded with my person experience of such evidence. I didn't say "I drive a Chevy and it sucks so everything GM produces sucks" which is what words you're putting in my mouth.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@Heaugerkerkerk1 ASSHOLE: stop spamming me. Through analogy, I proved your "proof" to be absurd. You have no proof. You got a lemon, now you cry like a little girl. Grow up. I am VASTLY more intelligent than you...the fact you can't follow a simple, clear analogy proved that. Can you now just shut the fuck up and go spam someone else now, you cry baby? Here's your next topic: gravitee ain't workin cuz eye gumped offn tha grownd yestidee...
kenfo0 3 months ago
@kenfo0 Wow,who's the crybaby now? LOL. You're the one who's crying and bitching because you obviously can't handle being wrong or the fact that maybe, just maybe, there's someone who knows more about the subject you're arguing about than you. What makes me the spammer here anymore than you? "I am VASTLY more intelligent than you" LMAO! If only I had a dollar for everytime I heard a complete moron say that. &you think your analogy was intelligent when it had NOTHING to do with the subject.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@kenfo0 And as for the so-called "fall of America", first of all I'm not even from there (thank God), and secondly I think it's people like yourself who childishly attack others and refuse to see sense because of their own pigheaded logic who contribute to that. You seem offended that anyone would disagree with you and ready to lash out at anyone who does which is typical of the "arrogant, ignorant American" stereotype that many people familiarize with today.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
@kenfo0 And no, I don't own a Dodge power wagon which I used for an example although I have driven many different trucks, both IFS and solid axle and I can tell you which one of the two breaks less suspension components and is generally better for heavy-duty applications.
Heaugerkerkerk1 3 months ago
yeah i didnt see the dodge in this challenge...
Duffman19370 8 months ago
The Dodge wins, and they don't show it. If it would have lost they would have mentioned it for sure...
135tp 8 months ago
the dodge beats the chevy in various tests, thats why its not there. both the chevy and the dodge are good trucks i have owned both but ford just isn't my thing
daneg91 8 months ago
@daneg91 no its because the dodge isnt even close , so they didnt bother showing it,
CBCOlympics 8 months ago
where did the dodge go
troublejoker868 8 months ago
.... where's the dodge?
CanadianLeopardC2 9 months ago
honestly, these trucks are expensive!! so who in there right mind is going to go fucking with them this much? in the bush ! really i mean REALLY jesus wake up most of the people out there dont do anything with these trucks, other than go to the grocery store, and wax them on the weekend. o yeah and i love howie (douche) he must get paid every time he says that its the truck of the year
neons11 9 months ago
Ford shouldn't have made such a big deal brew ha ha over the F150's frame a couple of years ago -- same company but different priorities? The 1/2 ton has proportionally stiffer frame than its 3/4 and 1 tons?
Duncan2037 9 months ago
WHERE IS THE DODGE?????????? Did too well probably...
QK99Cobra 9 months ago 2
Wow - this video is for the gullable! Anyone that has been 4 wheelin' knows that you need some flex in the frame - only a fucking idiot would take that piece of shit chevy into the bush (and get stuck). The Ford shows that flexibility.
MrJCDenton69 9 months ago
F-ucking
O-ld
R-usty
D-odge
nicknkell 9 months ago
Everyone seemed to start these videos after Toyota did their video for the Tundra in the cattle ranch. Both Toyota and Ford have fully impressed me with their videos. Chevy however is hand picking tests to beat competition on, this is an age old tactic but they are making it reeeeaaaally obvious in these videos.
xthegrim 9 months ago
what about the ram?
ASAWProductions 9 months ago
@ASAWProductions that's what i was saying. he lost in the 60 test but he probably kicked ass in the others. so they didn't want to show it.
howyoudone 9 months ago
Anybody arguing for the Ford here looks like a RAtard...
KillaCamRon405 9 months ago
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isn't it funny tho how chev has won every single test?? Because all these test may be done by AMCI testing, its still Chev... and they sure do compare themselves to ford a lot.... Chev, i will admit, you make a good truck, but i dont need your bias test results..
sosep7630 9 months ago
@sosep7630 This is one of those things were no matter what brand would to tests like this, that brand would win. Like if Dodge did a comparison like this, who would win? Dodge. Same thing with Ford or whoever. Thats why I don't like it when brands hold comparisons like these. However I heard pickuptrucks(dot)com did a test like this and the Chevy still came out on top, and they're not a brand biased website/company. Either way, I like all 3 brands. They all got things I like about them.
WillieWonka928D 9 months ago
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sosep7630 9 months ago
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sosep7630 9 months ago
where is the dodge
TheBrddd 9 months ago