Why Vote - Neale Donald Walsch gives his thoughts

[warblerfish]

I love Neal but he is dead wrong and its shame on him for not being conscious enough to be aware of the global manipulation a nd the absolute sham of politics that he has helpd humanity manifest. A non vote is the most empowering vote a person has be cause your voting "ENOUGH" of this bulshit where peple under no contractual obligation lie and manipulate to further corprate gain and undermine cinstetutional rights and liberties. I t makes me question the consciousness of this man.

[mferguson1978]

Neale I did not feel good listening to this message. I cannot believe that the things you have said here represent who you really are.

[Possessorkiller]

Taking what is good and leave what is not... free the mind with magnetism psychiatry is the way to become a antídote...

[Possessorkiller]

Is the universe that control us but the universe need us to live

It's like the universe is a person and the earth is one microorganism of a cel

If the earth is not free it's bad for us and the universe

it's like when you breath you take the free air to you but someway he get free again and you live

The only thing we need to free the world is to our minds... stop to see bullshit images that will help you in nothing

Spirits needs us and some needs them...I prefer to be a antidote against it

[karita180288]

subtitulado al español plis...

[Kandurananda]

I hear that Obama is no different than Bush, that he is just a puppet. Is this true? Can even this beautiful soul be deceived by the vile few who are trying to controll the whole planet? I still believe that Light shall prevail in the end.

[neoram87]

I do not feel this video came from soul. It looks to me like it came from Neil's ego. I have received many useful videos from him though. Well I realized that the ego comes in now and then, and this time Neil's ego was speaking. Suprising, I thought he was more conscious. It's ok though. It is all love. The error is in my perception.

[astikel]

neale, if 90-95% of us vote the same man, they can't forge the elections, because there will be a riot, but if we are stupid enough to not vote the same man or not vote at all, there's no hope

[FFPugs]

Until there is a candidate that I feel represents the genuine "GOOD" of the people I will refrain from being involved in the voting process(This is my right)...Until inspired action the moves me to do so,I will not be guilted into it by anyone. I will work on being the change that I wish to see in this world by educating myself and raising my own vibrations higher...and hope that the (((ripple effect))) is far reaching.

[1schwererziehbar1]

"... people should vote for one of the two candidates ..."

"... one of the two candidates ..."

"... two candidates ..."

when i heared that my brainwash detectors went off like crazy.

this guy is obviously endorsing obama here. well i guess his wishes came true and now he can enjoy the ongoing war in iraq, the ongoing torture and the bombing of pakistan.

[oh2love4love]

this video caused me to wonder just what neal was thinking when he did it.. is he seriously unaware that the two-party system is COMPLETELY broken? I voted for a third party and plan to always do so until we break the chains of tyranny that is taking place in our beloved white house! :)

~peace in 2010~

[jkmetzjr]

It brings up a real interesting question.... Is non-participation the same as non-consent. It seems to me like voting no matter what the outcome is saying I consent to this process, it is good, whoever wins I consent to the actions imposed by them. In a world were our rights and liberties are given to us by our creator, why should i consent to any form of government I feel is tyrannical in its proceedings?

[gustavomedeluna]

voting isn't actually the good thing to do since our vote doesn't actually count at all.

The government is the one who decides who the president will be.

[themanyone]

It's a glorified poll, but it does demonstrate how far off the system is.

[victorwasright]

neale is losing touch with the essence of CWG's message, if he ever had it. i doubt he'd ever make a statement like this 10 years ago.

every choice we make is a vote, and every one is an act of self-creation....we do not need a VOTING booth [rigged, of course] to declare who we are or to create the state of beingness which reflects our true selves. neale sounds pretty niave about how corrupt the system is.

[NealesWord]

Hello there, I have made a myspace of Neale and his teachings. If any of you are a believer of Neale's work, please add this well set up page the url is:nealedw

Blessings & thanks."

[roudyproudy]

Well said as always Neale, the shift has begun and the majority of the peoples made the correct choice for these times. Now more than ever we must stay awake and create with the intent of Love

Namaste

Blessings

Kathy

[oh2love4love]

8 months later.. do you still feel that there is a "choice" or that the so-called choice was a good one?

[roudyproudy]

@oh2love4love the change of an entire nation's thought process is not going to happen over night, it's the people that need to envoke the change, as we all know the corporate government won't . it begins within , then moves to family , friends ,neighbors, cites , states, and so on , first we all have to realize we are one and focus on the sameness than the differences , this will take years to undo and re-learn

[oh2love4love]

@roudyproudy, i don't believe it will take years..but then i am believing that there's a shift coming that will be amazing and change life as we know it.. i'm praying <3

within the walls that have been created envolving the political system, i do not believe any change will ever come until people stop voting for the corrupt two party system...... these people in office DO NOT work for the people of this land, it is obvious and in our face..

time to wake up folks :)

[trusttrustsir]

I respect and love Neal for his beautiful work but he is wise to stay out of politics, unless there are other hidden agendas. Too many respected people in the self-help world pretend that everything is played fair. Well, Politics is an evil monopoly controlled by very lost souls. There are things happening behind the scenes in politics that are inconceivable to the "average" person who thinks that they are their bodies.This really upset me watching this!

[CRweareallone]

Neale is not unaware of what goes on he is just simply trying to shift your consciosness and mine so that life 'is' played 'fair' as you put it and corruption doesnt continue

[adevezar]

What i like in Donald Walsh is that is trying to remeber us ower ppower aginst people who thinks that "eat" us. Just Because are mucho strong than us and in the end they have not eat anything.

[adevezar]

Politically Neal was never an analyst. Just a wish friend.

[adevezar]

Politically Neal was never an analyst. Just a wish friend.

[adevezar]

Just remember what made when you have in fear.

Neal

You are not now in a great position to say someone who you really are.

Not know, may be in next incarnation, but not now.

Now are the moments op people you destroed.

[ShowBizComic]

Good for you, Neal! You are too hip and cool! I was doing my comedy act in the Canyonville casino near you, wish I could have met you. I cried in the theatre all through the movie of your life. And now, a few days after the election of Obama, I found this video. We are in the beginning of a Glorious New Era of Light! Bless you, Neal, you rock! (Yeah, I voted, dude!)

[oh2love4love]

1 year later, do you still feel that same about obama? curious..

[ShowBizComic]

oh2love4love: Answer to your question: Hell no I don't feel the same! Obama has disappointed me. He is not the great leader I thought he would be. How's this for an about-face:  Obama has caused me to conclude that the difference between the Republicans and Democrats is that you can trust the Democrats to grease the knife they use to slit your throat.

[oh2love4love]

showbiz, i believe that obama is meant to be there to further wake the people of america & the world.. so many folks around the world were convinced that obama would be the difference this country needs & now they see that is not so, therefore they must realize what you do; the 2 party system is a farce..

may all of the human species see truth & understand the depth of their existence.

in the light - let us continue raising our vibration to higher worlds! :)

peace & love 2010 ~

[KarenFiscus]

You seem to be brainwashed by the media because there are three presidential canidates not 2. The third is Bob Barr. It is sad that the media has bound us to two such unworthy canidates. Two more in a long list of incompidents.

[cgoodman1970]

Thanks for being the avatar you are! You woke me up from a deep sleep!

[jbupillpintu]

I am saddened by all the cynicism I have read in response to your video, Neale. Kinda like a microcosm of what is going on in the election process. You have an incredible, positive, daily impact on my life, and thus the lives of those whom I encounter personally. Your work is vital and much appreciated and needed. Your resilience is exemplary. Thank you from my soul.

[shultzIII]

Another thing that made me feel uncomfortable about this video is that it gives all sorts of energy to the act of voting, but zero attention to actually having an influence after casting your vote. I can't escape a specific sense of powerlessness in this video.

It sounds too much like our jobs are done once we cast our vote at the end of the day.

[shultzIII]

Howard Zinn, after making his endorsement, specifically warned that the "candidate will not fulfill [his] potential unless he is enveloped by a social movement, which is angry enough, powerful enough, [and] insistent enough."

[JediofZen]

Hey - cool to see some Ron Paul supporters here! :)

I'm sure most CwGers are probably very pro-Obama, and if so, to each his own. Personally, I'm leaning towards either McCain or Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.

[jbupillpintu]

I agree wholeheartedly with Neale. This for me is so not a choice between the 'lesser of two evils'. I believe that anyone who believes that has not processed the full picture and perhaps not gone deeply enough into his or her own values to discover a match.  Much is at stake here and the potential for good is tremendous. These are very exciting times. There is so much on the line.

[bigdog49094]

I will vote but not for one of two, I vote for #3 the right thing.

[ThePluckinGrassholes]

The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty."

-George Washington

translated... Political parties that put their own success over that of the country's will be the death of America as we know it.

[ThePluckinGrassholes]

This election as well as most in the past is the "lessor of 2 evils". Unfortunately, who ever "wins", takes on the tremendous task of cleaning up a terrible mess. An interesting quote...

"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism.

[shultzIII]

humanity team members may consider watching the third-party debate here: cspanjunkie(dot)org(slash)?p=9­64

[kmhutter]

I am a little troubled by Neales specific statement about voting for "one of the two candidates".I find it very telling that he didn't say "vote for the candidate who most closely represents what your strongest/most loving wish for the world is, regardless of their party affiliations". That bothers me.Everybody knows that both Obama and McCain are backed by the same controlling people.Has Neale been bought out by someone? Hmmmm.... Makes me wonder.I, for one, am writing in Ron Paul's name.

[shultzIII]

Dear Neale, Sometimes we get caught up in the two-party duality. But with the "we are all one" philosophy in mind, I hope to remind you that one of the most pernicious memes that has infected our country is the republican versus democrat mantra. We tend to think in terms of the liberal left versus the conservative right. It is with the idea of one team versus the other, that we draw a line down the middle of this country.

[shultzIII]

So we fight over silly "wedge" issues meanwhile our government does what neither "side" wants. The end result is that we end up in the voting booth out of fear of what this country might become if we don't get in line, instead of love of what this country could become.

But this line is an illusion. It is not Republicans versus Democrats. The divide is between the people and the government. (Or more accurately, the people not knowing their power to influence government themselves.)

[shultzIII]

Please reconsider your thoughts today.

I believe in voting on who you actually want to become president. (Not out of fear of the other party becoming elected if you do not get in line.) Because your personal voice is exponentially more important. Your outward expression of yourself is infinitely more powerful than what becomes of checking a box in a voting booth.

Thank you

[RitaTell]

Please - do vote for the one who talks about communication and solving problems - rather than creating more by focusing on the differenses. And I am sure if the people in Europe could vote, it would be a giant vote for Obama...

[whatareUexperiencing]

Life on this Planet depends on our thoughts and intentions.

The most important work we can do is to look within ourselves & take full responsibility for our own values,intentions and thoughts. This creates our future world. Each second we create our world BY DEFAULT, whether we own that they do or not. We can't ever blame the future president for the state of the world, he or she is only a part of the wholeness, as are we All. Own your personal creativeness, and use it with your heart and soul.

[whatareUexperiencing]

The future of Human Beings on this Planet depends on our thoughts and intentions.

[nathansnifty]

Actually as lightworkers it is our job to be political..If not you then who?...If not now then when?

We are the voice of God and if we do not take action nothing will ever change.

Even atheists know that the greatpatriots who started this country had to fight endlessly to keep our country free and a democracy and not run by tyrants.

~Peace be with you all~

[Styx0000]

Dear all Americans - please vote, please vote, and for god`s sake (or the Universe, call the guy what you want) vote for the candidate that you think will be able to get US of A "back on track"!

Could some of you Americans do me a favor by the way?

When Oba... oops, when the candidate wins that receives most votes (sic), could someone send him the three first books of the CWG series?

[nowwhat94]

Hi Neale - Thank you for this video. I can tell you were holding back a lot to not appear one sided..lol. But I just want to say thank you and I will be voting tomorrow! It amazes me how many negative comments this video received. You are a very strong man for being able to endure through this nonsense. Love you!

[simpo704]

I agree this is an important vote.But as a lightworker, I thought the messages I was receiving from "Messages from God" would certainly not be political in nature. If Neale or any of those "celebrities" or spiritual mentors want to make a political stand or comment, they can take their own money and go stomp the trails with either candidate or whatever they want to do. As a lightworker Neale I already know my responsibility. I fear you will not reach those you are trying to through this venue.

[cowboyjack999]

I agree with you 100%. Everyone get out there and VOTE.

[WhoRonPaul]

Sorry Neale, you seem like a nice guy and all but voting for just one branch of government is ridiculous without voting for ever EQUAL branch.

Those people who believe that any US president is the most powerful man on earth and can create futures, are not just self delusional, but also the sort of people who pave the way for dictators like herod and hitler.

[rocky4x4]

No offense, Neale, but people are voting...so many people are voting that whomever is elected will be the voice of the people. I think its fair to say the next president will be held accountable to make things right....thats good and all but what about the things we can do to stand up to corporate greed? What could and should we be doing to make sure the vote that is every dollar we spend doesnt further corrupt? Please talk about how blaming a president to unblame ourselves is futile

[euthyphro22]

Finally, in regards to the comment on illusions etc,: I agree that our world and life is not wholly determined by outside forces, but it is in large part determined by our response to them (which begins internally). Life as a whole in the grand scheme of things is an illusion, but we cannot deny what is here in front of us. I would argue that denying politics is as irresponsible as denying war. Have the courage to affect change in the world and in politics, despite its shortcomings.

[euthyphro22]

Secondly, as he is only asking the obvious and is not choosing sides (thats your job), I don't think he's getting involved in "politics" per se. Hes encouraging you to get involved in the creative process on this planet and in your country by claiming your right to vote for whichever candidate you think best answers the questions hes asked.

[euthyphro22]

First, I don't think it fair to say that Neil has endorsed any one candidate here. He challenges us by asking a few straightforward questions about the two front runners that all voters should ask themselves. What would your vote be based on if not these questions? Obviously some believe the answer is McCain and others Obama.

[euthyphro22]

First, I don't think it fair to say that Neil has endorsed any one candidate here. He challenges us by asking a few straightforward questions about the two front runners that all voters should ask themselves. What would your vote be based on if not these questions? Obviously some believe the answer is McCain and others Obama.

[zoragabrovsek]

Neal, i agree that it is essential that we make a stand

yet, Neal has failed to share with us the 3rd person that has INTEGRITY = RON PAUL

NEAL says in the video "shame on you" SISTERS and BROTHERS - how can anyone say 'shame on you' that makes a living based on spirituality ...that speaks of consciousness /obama & mccain stand strongly behind the money machine =war/oil and US = ROBOTS

neale...has just lost my vote -

LOVE AND LIGHT

[zoragabrovsek]

strange...i like this man...

yet why he to is talking about only obama and mccain...

the only sound person is RON PAUL that meets integrity

neal - i reckon has just lost lots of people who looked up to him

blessings either way

[shultzIII]

Good for you. I supported Ron Paul, too.

[EDIFYproductions]

This was actually an excerpt from the 2002 presidential race.

Neale was very careful to not make it about ANY candidate or party.

[asphyxiaashley13]

2002 - No such election year.

[Onewhoislove]

Heroes and idols have clay feet not even Kennedy was perfect. I'm voting not to vote.

[Onewhoislove]

Use your illusion of freedom wisely.

[williamrburns]

Thank you for studing the back of loves tapestry. Someday we will all see it for what it really is.

[essentialenergy1]

I am saying that 'I decide'. Living in a 3D world makes it even easier to decide what I choose to believe from all of the illusions. Politics being one of the biggest drama illusions. There is no difference between any of the candidates, they are driven by the same forces - who have the same agendas. It's time we all woke up and realised that the power is within - not out there somewhere - or with someone else.

[raccoonpoet]

we are at the threshold of a new day, it's something so many feel and understand at the deepest of levels, and God could not have made our choices more easy to choose----Obama, a true leader who stands for unity and cooperation and hope, vs. McCain and Palin, two people who are clueless, and worse than that (I have coined the term anti-goddess for her-think about it!) a no-brainer, it's really really easy folks! Please choose now, and let's get on with creating beauty and peace we want to see!

[whereswallis]

Hi Neale

Thank you for this message, and for all the work that has inspired me over the years to be closer to who I really am. Although I cannot vote in this election, I wish all Americans the love to draw inspiration from the unique opportunity that is now present, to create anew a path that will be beneficial to all. Love and Light. Alistair

[essentialenergy1]

Neale, I have journeyed with you from the beginning and now we part ways. I have just unsubscribed from your website. Have you not taught that - 'I create my own reality?' My reality is not decided by any outside force. I am source. No politician can make my world a better place, only 'I' can. Our world is not made any the better by deciding which politician I shall give my power to. I wish you peace.

[raccoonpoet]

we still live in the 3D world, and must do what can to choose what is right to make our future what we want to see it to be. This is the reality of the life we live, so what are you going to do instead? wait for others to choose for you?

[erelis1971]

I dont understant why spiritual leaders involve in politics. Stay away from this shit, please.

[Onewhoislove]

Absolutly.

[raccoonpoet]

because we are still living together, spiritual and non-spiritual, and all our choices add up to create the world we see around ourselves. At this moment now, we are going to start moving to make it better for ourselves, starting with choosing the better leader who has ideas of unity and cooperation as we do....it's important because here we are, being the change we want to see in the world.

[nbomb3]

I appreciate that Neale is trying to encourage us to take a stand, and make a decision, but since it really is true, on a deeper, more powerful, and therefore more ^relevant^ level, that WE are the only ones responsible for our experiences as creative beings in a creative Universe, then there's really nothing special about today that isn't just as special about the day before yesterday or the day after tomorrow. We create our lives using the same tools, and the same guidance system. :^D <3 Nate

[raccoonpoet]

yeah, and tomorrow is election day, so go and vote for the change you know is here already. If you don't others still will, and it's still the real world, so, yeah, not a special day, just very important to vote to state to ourselves what we choose NOW.

[platinumsynergy]

Thank-you Neale - for being a positive source of information and thought-provoking ideas that are shaping this world to become a better place. Your intentions are clear. I will be at the polls for sure!! Go Obama!

[deniseno]

I dreamt that Obama had won the election and the world was a better place of peace, love, harmony and fairness. I love Donald Walsch and believe in everything he says. Please go vote.

[vanraai]

Hi people of the US, We in Europe count on you, so vote from your heart and soul.

[Ezineeros]

There are no limits to how or where fascism can breed. It can breed in spirituality, religion, atheists. The roots to the matter is; if someone wants to abuse power, he can apply a creative array of destructive tools which can include fascism, onto anything! There are universal good, and there are universal evil too, that can be implemented onto anything. Understand, this, see beyond mass disunity, and find common good to reunite our sick world.

[Ezineeros]

There are no limits to how or where fascism can breed. It can breed in spirituality, religion, atheists. The roots to the matter is; if someone wants to abuse power, he can apply a creative array of destructive tools which can include fascism, onto anything! There are universal good, and there are universal evil too, that can be implemented onto anything. Understand, this, see beyond mass disunity, and find common good to reunite our sick world.

[muzeam]

Love you Neale. He normally doesn't say shame on you...but...hey. I will throw a rotton apple at anyone not getting out there to vote and I am a pacifist. Go Vote. Nancy Lake I and my son already cast our vote for Obama.

[technonana]

Hi Neale,I am disheartened and dismayed to see and hear you say "shame on you." Shame is not of God and God would never say that to anyone whether they vote or not. Seems quite conditional to me. You can do better.

[kritcyn]

Neale, you are so correct that this election will impact the future of the world however I am really amazed you mentioned that there were only TWO candidates running. The future of this world depends greatly on this election and I wouldn't even dream of voting for anyone other than RALPH NADER! Shame on you Neale for contributing to American ignorance for believing that we only have a choice between Pepsi and Coke. Namaste

[CoachSteve4u]

I think this was a conversation with Neale, not with God. This is what I don't understand. The expert on these matters is Abraham-Hicks, who is a very near and dear friend of Neale. What is their advice? What is the advice from source energy? Appreciate both candidates, and know they they both have worked very hard to be where they are. Make positive aspects of them both (very hard to do I know), and know this - that neither of them or any government has control over your life experience.

[KenDyerJr]

Excuse me Neale there's more than 2 candidates. The 2 you speak of have outlined plans for ENDLESS WAR.  I cannot in GOOD CONSCIENCE place a vote IN FAVOR of WAR. Americans are so pathetic thinking that they must vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Of the 2 candidates you mention, I assume you mean Obama and McCain, there is REALLY only one party. THE WAR PARTY. And so if you are a spiritual person Neale, why are you urging people to vote for the war party? SHAME ON YOU! I vote for PEACE!!

[catlvr214]

Why can't we all just get along??? It seems the focus here has been on what you don't believe in or have in common, what about the fact that we were all attracted to this video? And while some will embrace and others reject the message as well as the messenger, isn't the bottom line about love? Not everyone has a hidden agenda. I happen to enjoy Nealle's words. I hope you all have a blessed election day, with or without the banter. (perhaps you enjoy the banter, so who am I to pass judgement?)

[pele0303]

I also live in Oregon. I already voted and thought it was important to do so.

[nannette1094]

Touche, Neale. It's all about hope and unity.

Not fear and division. Yes, we can.

hugs

nannnette kennedy

[PhantomOfTheAgua]

Thank you for speaking for the highest and best good. We are all One.

[ingeboorg]

McCain and Obama have the same ORDER.

[lodelinemusic]

Dearest Igonce...Can you spell a-r-r-o-g-a-n-t? How dare you say God is not on anyone's side. God is on ALL sides. Since when does being spiritual have a political party? Nothing is more non-spiritual than someone deciding who is more spiritual than someone else. It's not a competition. Who died and left you in charge anyway? Let me guess, the Conservative Republican Party, otherwise known as "the correct view for all". What a shock.

[lgonce]

No one person that I know in the spiritual or new age arena votes Democrat. I am a spiritual and new age person, but one with many degrees and a great deal of experience in Washington DC. I would NEVER vote a Democrat into the Presidential office because it equates itself to Socialism. Nealle, you disappoint me with your partisan views, and I happen to KNOW GOD is not on your side.

[shmoopygirl]

"No one person that I know in the spiritual or new age arena votes Democrat."

you apparently don't know many people...

[wayshower13]

since you are apparently grounded in the 3d way of thinking-us vs. them, I doubt that you will be able to ascend to the 2012 5d conciuosness, we are all one. Namaste

[wayshower13]

I forgot to include your name igonce, in the thread I just sent, as it was to you, just to be clear. How do you know that god is not on Neal's side-not that she/he is or isn't, but how do you think you know? I'm very curious to hear your response-but it doesn't matter at all at the same time either. Namaste

[BluesVues]

Wow. So, from what you're saying, then, George Bush must be a spiritual/new age person, yes? Many of us have degrees and experience...but we try to keep from saying things as inane as you just have. God has a side she takes? Oh please. Go post on Fox News. Peace...and wondering just what all your many degrees are in...

[ArchangelTMN]

Sorry

[ArchangelTMN]

People believed in gods, some still do. People believed in god, some still do. People believed in... thus is the natural progression of mankind. I will happily clarify and produce references for anything I have said here. I will be ecstatic if someone correctly criticises me in a constructive and equally if not better argued manner.

[guitarfarmer]

Now, that is arrogant Mr. I am from Norway, don't even try to disqualify me from discuss with you, because I do not master your language and grammar completely. I totally disagree with you that beliefe is not important in science. There are quantum psycists who proclame that a scientists beliefs and expectations actually influences the electrones during the measurment process. And the literary thoughts are creative.

[ArchangelTMN]

People believed in gods, some still do. People believed in god, some still do. People believed in... thus is the natural progression of mankind. I will happily clarify and produce references for anything I have said here. I will be ecstatic if someone correctly criticises me in a constructive and equally if not better argued manner. Correct punctuation, spelling and grammar would be nice.

Done.

[guitarfarmer]

If that is true then science is indeed a advanced beliefe system as well. And circle argumentation, because you will always produce what you expect to find in science. Are you truly open minded Mr archangel?

[ArchangelTMN]

"NON-Political perspective." Is there such a thing, especially when it is obviously saying vote Obama. Personally, I don't hold this man in high esteem because he is associated with religion. He thus associates himself with all the evil acts directly related to faith that have been and are being perpetrated right now. Dawkins and Hitchens, these two are really leading the fight back for science and reason but they are backed by millions of everyday non-believers everywhere.

[guitarfarmer]

Thats bull. Stalin was a atheist, and he killed millions of his own people. Phol Pot in Kambodia as well, same story. Do not blame it on religion in general.There are a lot of science that do not deny that reality might have a spiritual aspect.

[ArchangelTMN]

"Stalin was a atheist" Outwards behaviour does not always reflect inner attitudes; no one except Stalin knew his beliefs. Saying that, Stalin tolerated the church to a certain extent and completely immorally the church as in many historical cases, tolerates totalitarian regimes. Religion is bad because it demands faith, and faith is bad because it demands the suspension of reason.

[ArchangelTMN]

The result can be overt oppression like Mao's China or covert like the belief that something is responsible for all the good and evil acts in the world. Authoritarian regimes such as most fascist, communist and fundamentalist belief systems rely on faith. Is it not fair to say in such situations you are told to believe simply because it is "right"? That is wrong.

[ArchangelTMN]

"There are a lot of science" True, there is a lot of things claiming to be science and because of this some will accept the obvious statement that "reality might have a spiritual aspect." Where do we come from and why are we here? This is something only science can tell us not digging deep into our "souls".