Не може да е предател човек, който знае рода си от 200 години, че са българи. Не може да е предател човек, който с цялото си сърци обичаше своята Родина - Българска Македония. Предатели са тези сърбомани и фиромски комунисти и техните днешни наследници, които направиха македонските българи еничари и предатели на българския си дух, доста братя македонци, да си го кажем и Вие, и Ние сме си българи! Казал го е Гоци Делчев.
Нека треперат сите србомани,гркомани,комунисти,удбаши и предавници от сите македонски делове-Ванчо Михайлов беше велик водач на ВМРО-непоколебим,храбр,достоен син на майка България=Македония!
Ivan Mahailoff was a great Bulgarian Macedonian. God bless him for the things he did as the leader of IMRO. He killed all those Communist Basterds that betrayed our cause. Three cheers for Radko. George A Lebamoff
Paliachovci videhme vi po vremeto na Hitler kakva Makedoniq bqhte .... Promiti Mozuci vzemete se stegnete i ne se inatete i s gordost se nari4aite BULGARI NE MAKEDONCI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Абе ако беше умрял човека 45-та година сега щяхте да го пишете голям македонски герой.Ама нали остана жив и каза няколко истини и сега набързичко доста удобно го направихте предател.
Prost srboman polowinata ne6ta ot videoto ne sa vqrno a drygata polowina sa izopa4enie Zabravq6 da kaje6 4e e geroi ot 1vata svetovna voina i 4e Todor Aleksandrov se e boril za obedinena Balgaria a ne za nezawisima Makedonia kakto pi6e v izmislenata vi istoriq
Што тресеш глупости море, јас ли викам дека Александров се борел за незавсина Македонија?Така на натписот пишува јас немора ништо да викам.Башка Александров го има потпишано мајскиот манифест, и затоа јас викам дека тој умрел како патриот.
Ne me pcuj be kopile edno tatarsko da ti ebam sestrata sto kur jades gomna, ako mislis ova deka ne e tocno potvrdi go so argument a ne da jades gomna be kretenu eden ciganski.
ne si kriv ti, krivi se vasite politicari sto ja vodat nadvoresnata politika da ne sme zaedno vo EU, a nadvor so srbite, neli sakate obedineta makedonija a se delite ot drugite delove?
Koj ti rekol deka nejkeme EU?Aj vie smenete si go imeto vo Tatarije za da bidete vo EU i NATO, moze?I veruvaj, ne e do politicarite, narodot toa nema da go dozvoli da se desi.Samo Komitite od Vardar ke go zapalat celo Skopje ako takvo nesto se desi a ne pa poveke luge.Politicarite odma bi ja sitnale Makedonija, samo uste nemozat, ke pocekame malku =).
Da da mnogu go sakam jas Tito i mnogu sakam da se vratam vo obedineta Srbi... ovaj Jugoslavija, nemas pojma nie kolku niv gi sakame.Aj sega gubi se moram da odam da siram srbomanska propaganda.
Mihailov has finger in your stupid ass holes not in Alexandrov's death. It's absurd what said this vodeo! FYROMs live your miserable life in your artificial country anyway soon it will be Shiptaria!
Дамян Груев: " Ние сме българи и винаги работим и ще работим за обединението на българския народ. Мислихме да създадем организация по образеца на революционната организация в България преди освобождението, да действаме по примера на Ботев, Левски, Бенковски и др."
The real destructor of VMRO (IMRO) is Jane Sandanski. He ordered Todor Panica to kill Mihail Daev - the vojvoda of Drama ,Boris Sarafov and Ivan Garvanov. Panica following Sandanski's ideology ,organised the assassination of Todor Alexandrov. Later Ivan Mihailov's wife shot dead Todor Panica.
Well this is a first.A Bulgarian calling Sandanski a traitor.Nice.Well he did order the assasination of those men, but those men were... vrhovisti lol idk how to say this on english.They didnt fit with his ideology alright.They didnt want an independent Macedonia, as Sandanski did.Thats why he was in a conflict with all those men till the end of his life, which was coused by the very same men.
Sandanski was a soldier in 13th Infantry Regiment in Kjustendil (1892 - 1894). I don't think he was for independent Macedonia. Just some of his views were too left (close to communist) which were not according to the views of the others who were conservative (right views).
Most of the macedonian men at that time had more "left views", even thought VMRO - Authonomus had a "right view" ideology.But before the Balkan wars the only "right viewers" (people who wanted to join Macedonia with Bulgaria) were the vrhovisti, the others didnt really care, they just wanted to free Macedonia first and care later about the future.
But the "left viewers" (People who wanted independent Macedonia (most of them) or just didnt want Macedonia to join Bulgaria) were Sandanski and his men (Panica, H. Dimov, G. Petrov...).
They were killed becouse of this same ideology, at the time when these ideas should decide the future of Macedonia, or more precicley, as Aleksandrov writes, they were killed becouse "... they say that an authonomous Macedonia should be wanted becouse Macedonia is seperated economicly and geographicly with a seperate macedonian nation and with a seperate history..." I think that he was very much for independent Macedonia.
Sandanski was for free Makedonia as a part of Bulgaria. There are many proofs that Sandanski was fighting for that (bulgarian soldier, fighting as a part of bulgarian army, his letters etc). The problems between the to parts of IMRO was the way of liberation of Makedonia and not if it is part of Bulgaria or not. Sandanski wanted to had the main role in this. He made so good things for IMRO and also so bad killing so many of his collaborators.
But wasent he killed becouse he didnt want Macedonia to be with Bulgaria and claimed that the land has its own history and people?Thats what most of the left viewrs thought, thats why Aleksandrov wrote that he wanted them dead, and thats why they were killed.
Man, the question in these days (the wish of 70 - 80 % of the people of Macedonia) to be Macedonia or not part of Bulgaria does not even existed. I want to say it was by default. There were many other problems and questions like the easiest way this liberation to be accomplished (with the main role of "varhovistite" or not; autonomy of Macedonia separated from Bulgaria with the only purpose this act to be easier approved from European Concert ). And the two sides of IMRO instead to resolve...
this problem in a peace way they did the most convenient for his enemies act starting the killing machine between the IMRO collaborators which victims were ones of the greatest Macedonian komitas like Garvanov, Sarafov and Sandanski. Later killings continued to such a hi level that came the 19 may puch in Bulgaria and impose of pro - Serbian government in Sofia. That provokes nothing but more killings and switch the way of fight. At the big scene came Ivan Mihaylov with his terrorist actions.
What do you mean it didnt exsist?Who were the "left viewers"?What was VMRO - United and who were the "sandanisti", who were called like that by Aleksandrov and killed by the very same man.But the uniteing of the both sides was aproved by Aleksandrov himself, when the idea of "bulgarian macedonia" was thosed away and becouse of this Aleksandrov was killed.I dont see your argument here, it is very clear that the "left viewers" didnt like the idea of "bulgarian Macedonia" at all.
I'm done with this discussion. I see that it will finish like most of other discussion in Youtube - offends and hate. Learn the history of VMRO and you will find many things you don't know (or just don't want to know).
I think that I know enough history so i could see the truth.But at the end, it's still the best not to go off with hate as you said =).Peace be with you.
It proves that you don't know your own history and the ideas of your own leaders. I would not give a shit about you guys and your country if I didn't have a grand-dad who spilled his blood for Macedonia. It hurts me when I see you brainwashed and full of hate.
Lol, I dont know man I think that I told you enough for a prove to you.But you belive as you wish, cos I think that i've done my job here.You belive your own propaganda from the time of Todor Zivkov and I'll countineu to be "brainwashed" lol.
Ето какво казва Даме Груев за характера на организацията: "Мислехме да създадем организация по образец на революционната организация в България преди Освобождението, да действаме по примера на Ботев, Левски, Бенковски и пр."
Just see your video. It is about a leader who considered him self as Bulgarian, his deputy, who considered him self as Bulfarian and organization ( VMRO ) which was successor of Bulgarian Revolutionary Central Comeete. Don't have to go far back in antiquity in order to find out the true. Just study the history of VMRO-you will find the many answers.
Yes, this video was about the last leader of VMRO who destroyed the Organisation from the inside out.Did you see how many people he killed?Even a hourad would be enough cos we know that VMRO had it's missunderstadings but Aleksandrov and Mihajlov have killed more than 1000 PEOPLE who worked for the macedonian caouse.And again with the qutes?Should i start sending quotes too?Fine if you wish.
And what did this discussion prove?Tell me what have you "proved"?Nothing, i gave you a suitable answer to every question and you still think that you "proved" something?You suck man.
It's not about being offended by the name "tatar". It's just not historically correct. You got it wrong again. Kubrat, not Asparuh is believed to be a christian. About of the origin of protobulgars - it's not clear yeat where was their ancient motherland, but many theories are pointing Persia. When Bulgaria was established, the name "tatar" didn't even existed.
Well if Kubrat was a christian it is most likely for his son to be a christian too.And the Bulgars have their origins from Asia most likely from Iran or Persia as you said, but either way you are from a Turco - Asian origin and it's a fact.
Don't get me wrong - I'm agree that you have right to call your country Macedonia and define your self as Macedonians. Just leave the history alone and let the dead rest in peace.
We dont have a problem with our identity.We know what we are.You dont.Like i said, you denie the origins of Asparuh, who is one of your greates heroes and i just cant understand that.And if you wana know i dont even know what "tatar" atully means lol.But alright fine your not tatars but if you really are succesors of Asparuh and Kubrat, your origins are from Asia.
Macedonia was never occupied by Bulgarian army. Just consider this - in many villages in Macedonia there are graves of Bulgarian soldiers. Many of them are in church yards. What persons the people would bury in CHURCHES YARDS? Ocupators and enemies? No. Their brothers. The serbs wanted you to think for us as enemies and looks like they almost got it.
Just becouse we buried you that makes us Bulgarians?Cant just a bulgarian officer stand with a heavy machinegun infront of the people and make them dig the graves?Man you make no snese.
I tell you my friend, all this shit that I see in Internet about Bulgarians being enemies of Macedonia makes me sick. You can't find a single Bulgarian that would realy hate Macedonians. The way you are teached in school and your official political position has nothing to do with the history.
2.They beet the hell out of us when we were helples in the World Wars
3.They say that we "steal" their history which was in Macedonia, we dont say that something that happend in Thracia for example is a part of our history.
And a few more dots but i think that you get the idea.
This is exactly what I mean. All the three points you are giving represent the story that the comunist in Yougolsavia wanted to teach you.
1. Becoming a nation is a long process. It takes ages. How do you want to consider you as a nation when you share same language, history, tradition like us?
2. In the world wars Bulgaria was fighting Serbia and Greece. The Macedonians greeted our army as liberators. Just check you tube and you will see some old footage and photos. The people didn't look like
WE ARE A NATION!A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU WERE ONE!You cant admit that and thats why we hate you.We share same language with the Serbians too, if you havent seen that.And with the Croats, and Monte Negrians, and Slovenians...We share the same tradition with these people also and we certainly DO NOT share the same history with you.You have nothing to do with Macedonia.
You guys make me sick. You want to be descendants of blood-lust, crazy homosexual greek? Alexander The Great, who modern greeks choosed recently as the greatest greek of all time? Fuck that.
And didnt the Bulgarians BURN TO THE GROUND few HOURGRADS of villiges?And didnt the Bulgarians exterminate 98% of the jews in Macedonia, who were, according to you, the same people as you, or is Yugoslavia makeing this up too lol.
No!According to US!THE MACEDONIANS!According to many macedonian national heroes and many macedonian historians and ofcourse, my gradfather and grandmother lol.
I didn't want to, but it looks like I have to tell you this. I'm the grandson of Giche Oshavkov - one voevoda that was active in Bitlolia before and during Ilinden uprise. Giche never consider him self in different way than a Bulgarian from Macedonia. I feel shame for you, modern day-macedonian.
OH NOOO!DISSASTER!!ANOTHER BULGAROPHILE!LOL!That's exacly the sort of people that Sandanski was murdering.I gues he missed this one lol.Just come to Macedonia so we can check Tetovo to see the nees of Mara Buneva, then in Skopje to see the son and grandson of Petar Pop Arsov then we'll go to see the gradson of Dame Gruev but better yet, see the daughter of Goce Delcev who lives in Bulgaria.
Don't call Giche Oshavkov bulgarophile. He was patriot like Jane and consider him self Bulgarian exactly like Jane. I think you still can't understand that the biggest problem for VMRO was the different political views, not the etnicity.
The problem with people like you is that you always looking for somebody to hate.
Do I hate you without a reson?Acttuly i dont hate you at all.I have alot of bulgarian friends.But just like Jane said, We dont hate Bulgaria and the Bulgarians, but we hate her propagandist polithics that are pointed against us.And OK Giche does exsist, but what does that prove to us?Nothing.Almost every Macedonian here on the forums has an ancestor that fought for Macedonia.
Look I have too an ancestor who was a VMRO activist, not a voyvoda like you say that your grandfather was(if he really was) but a member and if he was alive i think that he would of get a hard attack if he saw what you are doing to us.
Doing what? Recognizing the independant state of Macedonia first in the world? Yes, Bulgaria was the first country that officialy recognized Macedonia as independant state. Or helping you out with tanks and weapons back in 2001 when the shiptars decide they want their state? Or supporting you for EU and NATO, while you are calling us tatats?
You know that another 120 countries recognized as Macedonia.You arent the only ones you know.And you do know that Ukrain and Russia and Serbia and later NATO and KFOR sent us troops and viechels in 2001?This wont make up for what you did and what you are doing to us.
Tatar? Samurai? LOL Is this what they teach you in school? Protobulgarians were not even nomads, and Kubrat-the father of Asparuh was a christian, according to some bysantine sources.
Tatars didn't even existed as name at that time.
Where you are getting your information from? I would be curious to see the sources.
Well... there is a newspaper from New York Times where they call you Tatars and one book from a macedonian jurnalist who lived in America and wrote about VMRO, the Macedonians and the Bulgarians.Those might be a good source.They are from the early years of the 20th century, both the newspaper and the book.
And what's with the "is that what they teach you in school?".God, it's like we give a shit of where do you come from.I remember only one title in high school where we talked about the origins of you guys and thats it cos WE DONT GIVE A CRAP.And whats so wrong about calling you a Tatar.You say that your ancestor was Asparuh, who came from Asia, but you denie his origins - asian.I dont get you guys.
The whole story about Protobulgarians being "tatars" is nothing but nonsence. That theory is not shared by any serious world historian. And just let me to remind you that now you are the guys having problems with the history. You are traying to rewrite the whole European history only because this suits the political needs of your new country.
And i want to see those byzantine sources where it says that Kubart was a christian before he came to the Balkans, becouse it's apsurde to say such a thing cos it is well known that Bulgaria officialy recived christianity even somewhere at the middle of the 9th century, around 200 years after the arival of Asparuh and his samurais =).And samurias was a joke, if you didnt get that.
The ancient sources are the chronicles of Teofan Izpovednik and Nikifor Konstatinopolski. According to them Kubrat and his cousin spend around 10 years in Konstantinopolous, become patrician and were converted to christianity in 619. In 1929 in Mala Pereshchepina - village in Ukraina was found a big tomb. The german archeologist Verner proved that this is the tomb of Kubrat. Some of the items in the threasure were with pure christian simbols.
To tell you the truth, i see no offenc in the word "tatar", but if you see it as an offence then fine your not tatars.Happy now lol?And still, I doubt that Asparuh was a christian becouse he comes from a region where there was no chirsitianity or at least not that great influence of christianity.The Bulgarians started to gain christianity as their religion after they arived here, especialy at the time of Cyril and Methody and Climent and Naum.
Check you history textbooks again. Christianity was accepted as official religion by the king Boris I in 863. And don't tell me anything about Cyril and Methody and Climent and Naum being macedonians, coz this will be the joke of the year lol.
I told you earlier that OFFICIALY the chirstianity was the main religion of the Bulgars at the time of the end of the 1st bulgarian empire but the bulgarian people started accepting the christian religion a bit earlier, mainly at the time of Cyril and Methody and Climent and Naum.And i said nothing about their nationality but are you saying that they were Bulgars?Lol thats even more idiotic that you think it is.
Climent and Naum... fine it makes a little sence about them being Bulgarians even though they werent but Cyril and Methody... they were born in SOLUN which at that time was an unbeatable fortres and no Bulgarian has ever conquerd it.Macedonia at that time was still under the rule of Byzantine and please if you fine at least ONE historian that says that Solun was inhabited by Bulgarians at that time i would apriciate if you gave that info to me.
And by the way the clip that you made here is historically incorect. Vanche Mihailov didn't have a finger in the assasination of Todor Alexandrov. This is claimed by the daughтer of Todor Alexandrov -Maria Alexandrova. She is still alive and lives in Sofia.
How could his daughter know this?So what if she is his daughter?But thers no way that she, who was a child and that time, could know this.Even the investigators didnt find out who orderd his murder, but one thing is for sure, the order was from the bulgarian goverment.
His daughter keeps part of VMRO archive and lot of personal correspondation. Also closest people to the family shared their memories. By the way what Todor Alexandrov was against most was the Serbian and Greek influence in Macedonia. Not Bulgarian. Yes, he got involved in political killings in Sofia and also gained lot of enemies inside VMRO. But don't blame Vanche only because he was the last leader of VMRO described him self as Bulgarian.
Untill today it isnt know who exacly gave the order for Aleksandrov's assasination and who else was involved in it(apparantly, Mihajlov was), and if his daughter knows that she should have shared that with us by now.And i dont blame only Mihajlov, I blame Aleksandrov too, but Aleksandrov at least saw what he was doing to his people and signed the May Manifest to correct his mistake and died as a patriot.Mihajlov never did that.
What Jane said shows correctly what was the problem with VMRO. This organisation got involved with political fights inside Bulgaria instead of focusing on what was made for - liberation of Macedonia from Otoman empire.
But he says "We dont hate Bulgaria and her people" so someone must have accused him for hateing Bulgaria and the Bulgarians and what kind of patriot hates his own fatherland and his own people?
Jane was very emotional and controversial person. Don't forger that he was involved with the so called "mladoturci" and was behind of some of the assasination of VMRO members. All this didn't change the fact that he was an officer from the Bulgarian army and defined him self as Bulgarian.
He did not define him self as a Bulgarian.Infact, he was the one who dissliked the idea of Macedonia being a part of Bulgaria the most.Yes, he was behind some assasinations in VMRO, but he only killed bulgarophils who thought that Macedonia would be better off with Bulgaria.
You know, this will take us nowhear cos I can quote heroes too.But fine if you so badly want it, here is one:"We dont want bulgarian Macedonia, but Macedonia to the Macedonians, Macedonia freed from the tyrany" - Jane Sandanski.And another one from him:"We dont hate Bulgaria and her people, but we hate her polithics, which goes against our interests".So is this going to take us anywhere?Cos i have alot more quetes from him and from many more if you wish to countineu this.
All of the people you mention bellow consider them self as Bulgarians from Macedonia. And it is easy to find evidences for that - their own words written in their own hands. By the way most of the archives of VMRO are kept in Bulgaria. Your historians should come over and study them. But this doesn't suits your official political position and you prefer to study your history from Youguslavian textbooks instead. What a pity
Man, I already gave to you historical statements by 3 Macedonian national heroes-Todor Alexandrov, Jane Sandanski, Goce Delchev. All of them written by them. All of them consider them selves as Bulgarians from Macedonia. What else do you want to see? Just open you eyes.
The true my Macedonian friends is that all, I mean ALL great heroes of Macedonia were consider them selves as Bulgarians. This is not hard to find, just have to study their biografies and read their own words. So stop hate Bulgaria and Bulgarians because you are hating your own brothers...
Who do you want me to quote?For who do you want me to send you a historical proof of his non-bulgarian nacionality?Just name one.Jane Sandanski?Dame Gruev?Nikola Karev?You want newspaper from all of the world, and even from the American "The Times"?You want interviwes with these heroes?Just ask, and i'll prove to you that almost nobody (exsept for Mihajlov and the people like him) of the macedonian heroes consider themselfs as Bulgarians.
Скъли съотечественици от Вардарска Македония!Обичайте Вашата родина-България,защото албанците са близо и не се знае,кога ще опрете до нас,въпреки че сега ни плюете!!!!
Vancho vo ilegala vo Italia imal bnugarski dukumenti,..i zavisel od bugarite,.za dukumenti,... bidejki vo NR i SR Makedonija nemal shansi da dodie nishto,...
zoshto na angliski,... napravi go na makedonski,... za te razbetat makedoncite,... ne strancite,..toa niv ne gi interesira,..MA kako shto znam Vancho do kraj bil bugarofil
Did you even watch the video?It is proved that he is a traitor and it was clearly confirmed that the great "anti - comunist" took money from bulgarian comunists.
smrt za tatarite!!!smrt za grcite!!!smrt za predavnicite,dusmanite,spiunite,kodosite!!!da zivee obedineta republika makedonija!!!vardar+pirin+egej+mala prespa+gora+prohor pcinski=republika makedonija!!!
Ooo pa vij se najdovte da jadete gomna za Vanceto i Todor da vi ebam smradta titomanska ,kurvi udbaski ! Decata vi ke razberat deka Vanco i Todor sa vistinskite makedonski heroj ,vie so tea betoni titomanski kratuni -nikogas. ,Majka Bugaria pak ke si go prati korpusot da vi go ebame pak mameto vestacko,komisarsko,cobansko!Go pomnite kurortot vo Dabnica a gidi katili so katili !!Pirinec ,Neovrhovist
da si go zemes vanceto doma ako ti e tolku ubav !!!
koj rece nesto za Aleksandrov,be torlak !!
Da ne ja predadel svojata tatkovina vanceto ,Pirinska Makedonija seuste ke bila najbogatiot del od vasata "maika" i ke se znaelo sto e tatar a sto Makedonec !!!
СИТЕ бугаришта КУРОВ ДА МИ ГО ЈАДАТ СО ЛУК
Nikola6676 1 month ago
@Nikola6676 ТО ЕДИН КУР ИМАШ ВЗЕМИ СИ ГО ЗАВРИ В ГЪЗА СИФИЛИСТИКО ГНУСЕН:)))))))))))))))))))))
tupiaotplovdiv 1 month ago
@tupiaotplovdiv od MAJKATI PUTKA TA DA JA EBAM SO TOJ KUR SIFILOSAN
Nikola6676 1 month ago
ДА ЖИВЕЙ БЪЛГАРИЯ! С НАМИ БОГЪ! РЕНЕГАТИТЕ МАКЕДОНСКИ ДА ГО ДУХАТ!
tupiaotplovdiv 1 month ago
@tupiaotplovdiv ОД МАЈКАТИ ПУТКАТА ДА ЕБАМ ЈАС
Nikola6676 1 month ago
@Nikola6676 mlukni be selqnin gnusen
tupiaotplovdiv 1 month ago
KE MI SE SERAM NA GROBOT samo da go najdam vo Italija
Nikola6676 5 months ago
@Nikola6676 Ела да ти напълня гъза с българчета олигофренино! Баща ти минети да ми прави тъпако!:)))Пу да те еба и ренегата!
tupiaotplovdiv 1 month ago
@tupiaotplovdiv МОРЕ ДА МАЈКАТИ ДА ТИ ЕБАМ В ПИЧКА СОРТАТА ДА ТИ ЕБАМ ВАША ГНАСНА ТАТАРСКА СЕ ДА ВИ ЕБАМ ПИЧКА ВИ МАТЕРНА ПРЕДАТОРСКА
Nikola6676 1 month ago
СМРТ ЗА ТАТАРИШТАТА ПИЧКИ МОНГОЛСКИ
RommelPilaf 8 months ago
- da mu se poseram na grobot na toa kuche bugaromansko , sojot da mu se sotrit !
OBEDINETA MAKEDONIJA na MAKEDONCITE !
BERZITI 1 year ago
Не може да е предател човек, който знае рода си от 200 години, че са българи. Не може да е предател човек, който с цялото си сърци обичаше своята Родина - Българска Македония. Предатели са тези сърбомани и фиромски комунисти и техните днешни наследници, които направиха македонските българи еничари и предатели на българския си дух, доста братя македонци, да си го кажем и Вие, и Ние сме си българи! Казал го е Гоци Делчев.
VMOPO 1 year ago 4
Нека треперат сите србомани,гркомани,комунисти,удбаши и предавници от сите македонски делове-Ванчо Михайлов беше велик водач на ВМРО-непоколебим,храбр,достоен син на майка България=Македония!
bateharo 1 year ago 2
Ivan Mahailoff was a great Bulgarian Macedonian. God bless him for the things he did as the leader of IMRO. He killed all those Communist Basterds that betrayed our cause. Three cheers for Radko. George A Lebamoff
glebamoff1 1 year ago
hahaha v edno video e makedonski patriot,v drugo bulgarski predatel,vzemete si izqsnete istoriqta-vseki den novi laji izmislqte
Kubrat89 1 year ago
Много ми е тъжно за мислене Ви. Нищо де, ако не ви дойде скоро акъл, ШИПТАРИТЕ ще ви асимилират и вече няма да има македонска псевдодържава!
largolin 1 year ago 3
така е кой тепа предателите и гадните сърби и сърбомани он е предавник-ей будали-сите Българи заедно секогаш!
poet4eto 1 year ago 4
Ivan Mixailov!
bezkosa 1 year ago
На Иван Михайлов и на Мара Бунева май им поставиха восъчни фигури в един музей в Скопие.... Е последно сега предател или герой? :)))
qbalka 2 years ago 6
Paliachovci videhme vi po vremeto na Hitler kakva Makedoniq bqhte .... Promiti Mozuci vzemete se stegnete i ne se inatete i s gordost se nari4aite BULGARI NE MAKEDONCI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
g0g0iMira 2 years ago 3
Абе ако беше умрял човека 45-та година сега щяхте да го пишете голям македонски герой.Ама нали остана жив и каза няколко истини и сега набързичко доста удобно го направихте предател.
80karaman 2 years ago 30
Prost srboman polowinata ne6ta ot videoto ne sa vqrno a drygata polowina sa izopa4enie Zabravq6 da kaje6 4e e geroi ot 1vata svetovna voina i 4e Todor Aleksandrov se e boril za obedinena Balgaria a ne za nezawisima Makedonia kakto pi6e v izmislenata vi istoriq
shadowlanser 2 years ago 16
Што тресеш глупости море, јас ли викам дека Александров се борел за незавсина Македонија?Така на натписот пишува јас немора ништо да викам.Башка Александров го има потпишано мајскиот манифест, и затоа јас викам дека тој умрел како патриот.
damjan193 2 years ago
srbomanite mrazat VMRO ,a tozi koito e pravil klipot e dolna svinja i nema poznania ot istoriata i e gaden agent provokator srboman,predavnik!!
kingIoanAsen 2 years ago 8
Ne me pcuj be kopile edno tatarsko da ti ebam sestrata sto kur jades gomna, ako mislis ova deka ne e tocno potvrdi go so argument a ne da jades gomna be kretenu eden ciganski.
damjan193 2 years ago
abre huj spleskan! 1:31 "Презъ голгота, къмъ независима македония" !!! Putko zaspala, na kakov jazik e tova be kuche mrsno!!!
kingIoanAsen 2 years ago 7
Sakas da ti pokazam natpis na latinski?
damjan193 2 years ago
ne si kriv ti, krivi se vasite politicari sto ja vodat nadvoresnata politika da ne sme zaedno vo EU, a nadvor so srbite, neli sakate obedineta makedonija a se delite ot drugite delove?
AlexandarBG88 2 years ago 3
Koj ti rekol deka nejkeme EU?Aj vie smenete si go imeto vo Tatarije za da bidete vo EU i NATO, moze?I veruvaj, ne e do politicarite, narodot toa nema da go dozvoli da se desi.Samo Komitite od Vardar ke go zapalat celo Skopje ako takvo nesto se desi a ne pa poveke luge.Politicarite odma bi ja sitnale Makedonija, samo uste nemozat, ke pocekame malku =).
damjan193 2 years ago
koga srbite osvoili vardarskiot del site revoljutioneri stanale predavnici, ovaa e vistinata :D
AlexandarBG88 2 years ago
A tikvesko vostanie BE GLUP?!
damjan193 2 years ago
predavnici za srbomanite be nepismen eden a so vakvi izvedbi i ti imas stav na srboman.
AlexandarBG88 2 years ago
Da da mnogu go sakam jas Tito i mnogu sakam da se vratam vo obedineta Srbi... ovaj Jugoslavija, nemas pojma nie kolku niv gi sakame.Aj sega gubi se moram da odam da siram srbomanska propaganda.
damjan193 2 years ago
ИДИОТ СИ ТИ ДАМЯНЕ,..И ПРЕДАТЕЛ НА ЦЕЛИЯ МАКЕДОНСКИ НАРОД...
buldogggy 2 years ago 12
Македонски НАРОД?Фала многу, јас мислев дека само бугарски народ има =).
damjan193 2 years ago
Very good, extremely good video.
ArchVangel 2 years ago
If there are enough proves that someone is bulgarian but not macedonian then the mekedonists put him as a traitor..
gazzzo0 2 years ago
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gazzzo0 2 years ago
Mihailov has finger in your stupid ass holes not in Alexandrov's death. It's absurd what said this vodeo! FYROMs live your miserable life in your artificial country anyway soon it will be Shiptaria!
CvetomirBulgarian 2 years ago
our great nation shall rise up again soon , da zive makedonija!
borat935 2 years ago
Another Great job Brother! Thanks for making that known. You got my rating!!!!
Q. Why allow insulting comments? Delete them &/or even Block them, thats what they do to "ME" &/or "US"!!!!!!!!
MnM
blazingmaco 2 years ago
Много сте смешни, защо спорите на английски, пред кого се доказвате. Дупедавци!
AlbanskiReutan 2 years ago
Go imas i na makedonski be nepismen eden.
damjan193 2 years ago
Дамян Груев: " Ние сме българи и винаги работим и ще работим за обединението на българския народ. Мислихме да създадем организация по образеца на революционната организация в България преди освобождението, да действаме по примера на Ботев, Левски, Бенковски и др."
cyruspaice 2 years ago
Vie ste predavnici bukluci! Vancho Mihailov e edin ot nai-golemite rakovoditeli na VMRO, golqm bulgarin makedonec!
CvetomirBulgarian 2 years ago
The real destructor of VMRO (IMRO) is Jane Sandanski. He ordered Todor Panica to kill Mihail Daev - the vojvoda of Drama ,Boris Sarafov and Ivan Garvanov. Panica following Sandanski's ideology ,organised the assassination of Todor Alexandrov. Later Ivan Mihailov's wife shot dead Todor Panica.
cerverg 2 years ago
Well this is a first.A Bulgarian calling Sandanski a traitor.Nice.Well he did order the assasination of those men, but those men were... vrhovisti lol idk how to say this on english.They didnt fit with his ideology alright.They didnt want an independent Macedonia, as Sandanski did.Thats why he was in a conflict with all those men till the end of his life, which was coused by the very same men.
damjan193 2 years ago
Sandanski was a soldier in 13th Infantry Regiment in Kjustendil (1892 - 1894). I don't think he was for independent Macedonia. Just some of his views were too left (close to communist) which were not according to the views of the others who were conservative (right views).
cerverg 2 years ago
Most of the macedonian men at that time had more "left views", even thought VMRO - Authonomus had a "right view" ideology.But before the Balkan wars the only "right viewers" (people who wanted to join Macedonia with Bulgaria) were the vrhovisti, the others didnt really care, they just wanted to free Macedonia first and care later about the future.
damjan193 2 years ago
But the "left viewers" (People who wanted independent Macedonia (most of them) or just didnt want Macedonia to join Bulgaria) were Sandanski and his men (Panica, H. Dimov, G. Petrov...).
damjan193 2 years ago
They were killed becouse of this same ideology, at the time when these ideas should decide the future of Macedonia, or more precicley, as Aleksandrov writes, they were killed becouse "... they say that an authonomous Macedonia should be wanted becouse Macedonia is seperated economicly and geographicly with a seperate macedonian nation and with a seperate history..." I think that he was very much for independent Macedonia.
damjan193 2 years ago
Sandanski was for free Makedonia as a part of Bulgaria. There are many proofs that Sandanski was fighting for that (bulgarian soldier, fighting as a part of bulgarian army, his letters etc). The problems between the to parts of IMRO was the way of liberation of Makedonia and not if it is part of Bulgaria or not. Sandanski wanted to had the main role in this. He made so good things for IMRO and also so bad killing so many of his collaborators.
CvetomirBulgarian 2 years ago
But wasent he killed becouse he didnt want Macedonia to be with Bulgaria and claimed that the land has its own history and people?Thats what most of the left viewrs thought, thats why Aleksandrov wrote that he wanted them dead, and thats why they were killed.
damjan193 2 years ago
Man, the question in these days (the wish of 70 - 80 % of the people of Macedonia) to be Macedonia or not part of Bulgaria does not even existed. I want to say it was by default. There were many other problems and questions like the easiest way this liberation to be accomplished (with the main role of "varhovistite" or not; autonomy of Macedonia separated from Bulgaria with the only purpose this act to be easier approved from European Concert ). And the two sides of IMRO instead to resolve...
CvetomirBulgarian 2 years ago
this problem in a peace way they did the most convenient for his enemies act starting the killing machine between the IMRO collaborators which victims were ones of the greatest Macedonian komitas like Garvanov, Sarafov and Sandanski. Later killings continued to such a hi level that came the 19 may puch in Bulgaria and impose of pro - Serbian government in Sofia. That provokes nothing but more killings and switch the way of fight. At the big scene came Ivan Mihaylov with his terrorist actions.
CvetomirBulgarian 2 years ago
What do you mean it didnt exsist?Who were the "left viewers"?What was VMRO - United and who were the "sandanisti", who were called like that by Aleksandrov and killed by the very same man.But the uniteing of the both sides was aproved by Aleksandrov himself, when the idea of "bulgarian macedonia" was thosed away and becouse of this Aleksandrov was killed.I dont see your argument here, it is very clear that the "left viewers" didnt like the idea of "bulgarian Macedonia" at all.
damjan193 2 years ago
I'm done with this discussion. I see that it will finish like most of other discussion in Youtube - offends and hate. Learn the history of VMRO and you will find many things you don't know (or just don't want to know).
See you...
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
I think that I know enough history so i could see the truth.But at the end, it's still the best not to go off with hate as you said =).Peace be with you.
damjan193 2 years ago
It proves that you don't know your own history and the ideas of your own leaders. I would not give a shit about you guys and your country if I didn't have a grand-dad who spilled his blood for Macedonia. It hurts me when I see you brainwashed and full of hate.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Lol, I dont know man I think that I told you enough for a prove to you.But you belive as you wish, cos I think that i've done my job here.You belive your own propaganda from the time of Todor Zivkov and I'll countineu to be "brainwashed" lol.
damjan193 2 years ago
Даме Груев: " . . .Ние сме си българи и всякога работим за обединението на българщината"
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Ето какво казва Даме Груев за характера на организацията: "Мислехме да създадем организация по образец на революционната организация в България преди Освобождението, да действаме по примера на Ботев, Левски, Бенковски и пр."
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
And because you video is about VMRO, here is little quotas from some great members. It's in Bulgarian, but I'm sure you'll understand ;):
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Just see your video. It is about a leader who considered him self as Bulgarian, his deputy, who considered him self as Bulfarian and organization ( VMRO ) which was successor of Bulgarian Revolutionary Central Comeete. Don't have to go far back in antiquity in order to find out the true. Just study the history of VMRO-you will find the many answers.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Yes, this video was about the last leader of VMRO who destroyed the Organisation from the inside out.Did you see how many people he killed?Even a hourad would be enough cos we know that VMRO had it's missunderstadings but Aleksandrov and Mihajlov have killed more than 1000 PEOPLE who worked for the macedonian caouse.And again with the qutes?Should i start sending quotes too?Fine if you wish.
damjan193 2 years ago
Sorry, but you do have a problem with your history and identity. And this discussion is proving this.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
And what did this discussion prove?Tell me what have you "proved"?Nothing, i gave you a suitable answer to every question and you still think that you "proved" something?You suck man.
damjan193 2 years ago
It's not about being offended by the name "tatar". It's just not historically correct. You got it wrong again. Kubrat, not Asparuh is believed to be a christian. About of the origin of protobulgars - it's not clear yeat where was their ancient motherland, but many theories are pointing Persia. When Bulgaria was established, the name "tatar" didn't even existed.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Well if Kubrat was a christian it is most likely for his son to be a christian too.And the Bulgars have their origins from Asia most likely from Iran or Persia as you said, but either way you are from a Turco - Asian origin and it's a fact.
damjan193 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong - I'm agree that you have right to call your country Macedonia and define your self as Macedonians. Just leave the history alone and let the dead rest in peace.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
We dont have a problem with our identity.We know what we are.You dont.Like i said, you denie the origins of Asparuh, who is one of your greates heroes and i just cant understand that.And if you wana know i dont even know what "tatar" atully means lol.But alright fine your not tatars but if you really are succesors of Asparuh and Kubrat, your origins are from Asia.
damjan193 2 years ago
Macedonia was never occupied by Bulgarian army. Just consider this - in many villages in Macedonia there are graves of Bulgarian soldiers. Many of them are in church yards. What persons the people would bury in CHURCHES YARDS? Ocupators and enemies? No. Their brothers. The serbs wanted you to think for us as enemies and looks like they almost got it.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Just becouse we buried you that makes us Bulgarians?Cant just a bulgarian officer stand with a heavy machinegun infront of the people and make them dig the graves?Man you make no snese.
damjan193 2 years ago
I tell you my friend, all this shit that I see in Internet about Bulgarians being enemies of Macedonia makes me sick. You can't find a single Bulgarian that would realy hate Macedonians. The way you are teached in school and your official political position has nothing to do with the history.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Let's see why do we hate Bulgarians:
1.They dont see us as another nation
2.They beet the hell out of us when we were helples in the World Wars
3.They say that we "steal" their history which was in Macedonia, we dont say that something that happend in Thracia for example is a part of our history.
And a few more dots but i think that you get the idea.
damjan193 2 years ago
This is exactly what I mean. All the three points you are giving represent the story that the comunist in Yougolsavia wanted to teach you.
1. Becoming a nation is a long process. It takes ages. How do you want to consider you as a nation when you share same language, history, tradition like us?
2. In the world wars Bulgaria was fighting Serbia and Greece. The Macedonians greeted our army as liberators. Just check you tube and you will see some old footage and photos. The people didn't look like
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
WE ARE A NATION!A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU WERE ONE!You cant admit that and thats why we hate you.We share same language with the Serbians too, if you havent seen that.And with the Croats, and Monte Negrians, and Slovenians...We share the same tradition with these people also and we certainly DO NOT share the same history with you.You have nothing to do with Macedonia.
damjan193 2 years ago
You guys make me sick. You want to be descendants of blood-lust, crazy homosexual greek? Alexander The Great, who modern greeks choosed recently as the greatest greek of all time? Fuck that.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Lol just becouse they chosed him as "the greatest Greek of all times" makes him a Greek?Comeon...
damjan193 2 years ago
And didnt the Bulgarians BURN TO THE GROUND few HOURGRADS of villiges?And didnt the Bulgarians exterminate 98% of the jews in Macedonia, who were, according to you, the same people as you, or is Yugoslavia makeing this up too lol.
damjan193 2 years ago
Bulgarians did this according to who? Serbs? Greeks? Well, since when a real macedonian, descendant of Todor Alexandrov trust Serbs and Greeks?
Brainwashing and propaganda is the name of this game.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
No!According to US!THE MACEDONIANS!According to many macedonian national heroes and many macedonian historians and ofcourse, my gradfather and grandmother lol.
damjan193 2 years ago
I didn't want to, but it looks like I have to tell you this. I'm the grandson of Giche Oshavkov - one voevoda that was active in Bitlolia before and during Ilinden uprise. Giche never consider him self in different way than a Bulgarian from Macedonia. I feel shame for you, modern day-macedonian.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
OH NOOO!DISSASTER!!ANOTHER BULGAROPHILE!LOL!That's exacly the sort of people that Sandanski was murdering.I gues he missed this one lol.Just come to Macedonia so we can check Tetovo to see the nees of Mara Buneva, then in Skopje to see the son and grandson of Petar Pop Arsov then we'll go to see the gradson of Dame Gruev but better yet, see the daughter of Goce Delcev who lives in Bulgaria.
damjan193 2 years ago
Don't call Giche Oshavkov bulgarophile. He was patriot like Jane and consider him self Bulgarian exactly like Jane. I think you still can't understand that the biggest problem for VMRO was the different political views, not the etnicity.
The problem with people like you is that you always looking for somebody to hate.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Do I hate you without a reson?Acttuly i dont hate you at all.I have alot of bulgarian friends.But just like Jane said, We dont hate Bulgaria and the Bulgarians, but we hate her propagandist polithics that are pointed against us.And OK Giche does exsist, but what does that prove to us?Nothing.Almost every Macedonian here on the forums has an ancestor that fought for Macedonia.
damjan193 2 years ago
Look I have too an ancestor who was a VMRO activist, not a voyvoda like you say that your grandfather was(if he really was) but a member and if he was alive i think that he would of get a hard attack if he saw what you are doing to us.
damjan193 2 years ago
Doing what? Recognizing the independant state of Macedonia first in the world? Yes, Bulgaria was the first country that officialy recognized Macedonia as independant state. Or helping you out with tanks and weapons back in 2001 when the shiptars decide they want their state? Or supporting you for EU and NATO, while you are calling us tatats?
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
You know that another 120 countries recognized as Macedonia.You arent the only ones you know.And you do know that Ukrain and Russia and Serbia and later NATO and KFOR sent us troops and viechels in 2001?This wont make up for what you did and what you are doing to us.
damjan193 2 years ago
And whats wrong in calling you tatars?Arent you the descedants of that samurai guy Asparuh?Wasent he a Tatar?
damjan193 2 years ago
Tatar? Samurai? LOL Is this what they teach you in school? Protobulgarians were not even nomads, and Kubrat-the father of Asparuh was a christian, according to some bysantine sources.
Tatars didn't even existed as name at that time.
Where you are getting your information from? I would be curious to see the sources.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Well... there is a newspaper from New York Times where they call you Tatars and one book from a macedonian jurnalist who lived in America and wrote about VMRO, the Macedonians and the Bulgarians.Those might be a good source.They are from the early years of the 20th century, both the newspaper and the book.
damjan193 2 years ago
And what's with the "is that what they teach you in school?".God, it's like we give a shit of where do you come from.I remember only one title in high school where we talked about the origins of you guys and thats it cos WE DONT GIVE A CRAP.And whats so wrong about calling you a Tatar.You say that your ancestor was Asparuh, who came from Asia, but you denie his origins - asian.I dont get you guys.
damjan193 2 years ago
The whole story about Protobulgarians being "tatars" is nothing but nonsence. That theory is not shared by any serious world historian. And just let me to remind you that now you are the guys having problems with the history. You are traying to rewrite the whole European history only because this suits the political needs of your new country.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
And i want to see those byzantine sources where it says that Kubart was a christian before he came to the Balkans, becouse it's apsurde to say such a thing cos it is well known that Bulgaria officialy recived christianity even somewhere at the middle of the 9th century, around 200 years after the arival of Asparuh and his samurais =).And samurias was a joke, if you didnt get that.
damjan193 2 years ago
The ancient sources are the chronicles of Teofan Izpovednik and Nikifor Konstatinopolski. According to them Kubrat and his cousin spend around 10 years in Konstantinopolous, become patrician and were converted to christianity in 619. In 1929 in Mala Pereshchepina - village in Ukraina was found a big tomb. The german archeologist Verner proved that this is the tomb of Kubrat. Some of the items in the threasure were with pure christian simbols.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
To tell you the truth, i see no offenc in the word "tatar", but if you see it as an offence then fine your not tatars.Happy now lol?And still, I doubt that Asparuh was a christian becouse he comes from a region where there was no chirsitianity or at least not that great influence of christianity.The Bulgarians started to gain christianity as their religion after they arived here, especialy at the time of Cyril and Methody and Climent and Naum.
damjan193 2 years ago
Check you history textbooks again. Christianity was accepted as official religion by the king Boris I in 863. And don't tell me anything about Cyril and Methody and Climent and Naum being macedonians, coz this will be the joke of the year lol.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
I told you earlier that OFFICIALY the chirstianity was the main religion of the Bulgars at the time of the end of the 1st bulgarian empire but the bulgarian people started accepting the christian religion a bit earlier, mainly at the time of Cyril and Methody and Climent and Naum.And i said nothing about their nationality but are you saying that they were Bulgars?Lol thats even more idiotic that you think it is.
damjan193 2 years ago
Climent and Naum... fine it makes a little sence about them being Bulgarians even though they werent but Cyril and Methody... they were born in SOLUN which at that time was an unbeatable fortres and no Bulgarian has ever conquerd it.Macedonia at that time was still under the rule of Byzantine and please if you fine at least ONE historian that says that Solun was inhabited by Bulgarians at that time i would apriciate if you gave that info to me.
damjan193 2 years ago
Go in google and type "Гиче Ошавков". He was a representative in Битолски Революционен Окръг на Дебърска Околия.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
And by the way the clip that you made here is historically incorect. Vanche Mihailov didn't have a finger in the assasination of Todor Alexandrov. This is claimed by the daughтer of Todor Alexandrov -Maria Alexandrova. She is still alive and lives in Sofia.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
How could his daughter know this?So what if she is his daughter?But thers no way that she, who was a child and that time, could know this.Even the investigators didnt find out who orderd his murder, but one thing is for sure, the order was from the bulgarian goverment.
damjan193 2 years ago
His daughter keeps part of VMRO archive and lot of personal correspondation. Also closest people to the family shared their memories. By the way what Todor Alexandrov was against most was the Serbian and Greek influence in Macedonia. Not Bulgarian. Yes, he got involved in political killings in Sofia and also gained lot of enemies inside VMRO. But don't blame Vanche only because he was the last leader of VMRO described him self as Bulgarian.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Untill today it isnt know who exacly gave the order for Aleksandrov's assasination and who else was involved in it(apparantly, Mihajlov was), and if his daughter knows that she should have shared that with us by now.And i dont blame only Mihajlov, I blame Aleksandrov too, but Aleksandrov at least saw what he was doing to his people and signed the May Manifest to correct his mistake and died as a patriot.Mihajlov never did that.
damjan193 2 years ago
What Jane said shows correctly what was the problem with VMRO. This organisation got involved with political fights inside Bulgaria instead of focusing on what was made for - liberation of Macedonia from Otoman empire.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
But he says "We dont hate Bulgaria and her people" so someone must have accused him for hateing Bulgaria and the Bulgarians and what kind of patriot hates his own fatherland and his own people?
damjan193 2 years ago
Jane was very emotional and controversial person. Don't forger that he was involved with the so called "mladoturci" and was behind of some of the assasination of VMRO members. All this didn't change the fact that he was an officer from the Bulgarian army and defined him self as Bulgarian.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
He did not define him self as a Bulgarian.Infact, he was the one who dissliked the idea of Macedonia being a part of Bulgaria the most.Yes, he was behind some assasinations in VMRO, but he only killed bulgarophils who thought that Macedonia would be better off with Bulgaria.
damjan193 2 years ago
Jane Sandanski: I would not hesitate to commit the most terrible terrorist action in order to gain my cherished dream Free Bulgarian Macedonia
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
You know, this will take us nowhear cos I can quote heroes too.But fine if you so badly want it, here is one:"We dont want bulgarian Macedonia, but Macedonia to the Macedonians, Macedonia freed from the tyrany" - Jane Sandanski.And another one from him:"We dont hate Bulgaria and her people, but we hate her polithics, which goes against our interests".So is this going to take us anywhere?Cos i have alot more quetes from him and from many more if you wish to countineu this.
damjan193 2 years ago
Whoever say I'm not Macedonain-I'll cut off his tongue, whoever say I'm not Bulgarian - I'll cut off his head" Todor Aleksandrov
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
All of the people you mention bellow consider them self as Bulgarians from Macedonia. And it is easy to find evidences for that - their own words written in their own hands. By the way most of the archives of VMRO are kept in Bulgaria. Your historians should come over and study them. But this doesn't suits your official political position and you prefer to study your history from Youguslavian textbooks instead. What a pity
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
I told you man, just name one hero.
damjan193 2 years ago
Man, I already gave to you historical statements by 3 Macedonian national heroes-Todor Alexandrov, Jane Sandanski, Goce Delchev. All of them written by them. All of them consider them selves as Bulgarians from Macedonia. What else do you want to see? Just open you eyes.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
The true my Macedonian friends is that all, I mean ALL great heroes of Macedonia were consider them selves as Bulgarians. This is not hard to find, just have to study their biografies and read their own words. So stop hate Bulgaria and Bulgarians because you are hating your own brothers...
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Who do you want me to quote?For who do you want me to send you a historical proof of his non-bulgarian nacionality?Just name one.Jane Sandanski?Dame Gruev?Nikola Karev?You want newspaper from all of the world, and even from the American "The Times"?You want interviwes with these heroes?Just ask, and i'll prove to you that almost nobody (exsept for Mihajlov and the people like him) of the macedonian heroes consider themselfs as Bulgarians.
damjan193 2 years ago
Vancho Mihailov was GAY !!! =)
Wiligot 2 years ago
Скъли съотечественици от Вардарска Македония!Обичайте Вашата родина-България,защото албанците са близо и не се знае,кога ще опрете до нас,въпреки че сега ни плюете!!!!
681year 2 years ago 3
Smrt ili sloboda za Makedonija za gnasite bugarski gospod ke im plati
tome3578 2 years ago
napravi i makedonska verzija na ova video,...za te razberat nashite ,..
gospodinLav 2 years ago
Vancho vo ilegala vo Italia imal bnugarski dukumenti,..i zavisel od bugarite,.za dukumenti,... bidejki vo NR i SR Makedonija nemal shansi da dodie nishto,...
gospodinLav 2 years ago
zoshto na angliski,... napravi go na makedonski,... za te razbetat makedoncite,... ne strancite,..toa niv ne gi interesira,..MA kako shto znam Vancho do kraj bil bugarofil
gospodinLav 2 years ago
you sick FYRomians,are you crazy?
xaxaxa taitor? you are so stupid! this man is an hero of Bulgaria and Macedonian cause!
681year 2 years ago 2
Did you even watch the video?It is proved that he is a traitor and it was clearly confirmed that the great "anti - comunist" took money from bulgarian comunists.
damjan193 2 years ago
smrt za tatarite!!!smrt za grcite!!!smrt za predavnicite,dusmanite,spiunite,kodosite!!!da zivee obedineta republika makedonija!!!vardar+pirin+egej+mala prespa+gora+prohor pcinski=republika makedonija!!!
vojvoda78 2 years ago
Ooo pa vij se najdovte da jadete gomna za Vanceto i Todor da vi ebam smradta titomanska ,kurvi udbaski ! Decata vi ke razberat deka Vanco i Todor sa vistinskite makedonski heroj ,vie so tea betoni titomanski kratuni -nikogas. ,Majka Bugaria pak ke si go prati korpusot da vi go ebame pak mameto vestacko,komisarsko,cobansko!Go pomnite kurortot vo Dabnica a gidi katili so katili !!Pirinec ,Neovrhovist
makmokmak 2 years ago
da si go zemes vanceto doma ako ti e tolku ubav !!!
koj rece nesto za Aleksandrov,be torlak !!
Da ne ja predadel svojata tatkovina vanceto ,Pirinska Makedonija seuste ke bila najbogatiot del od vasata "maika" i ke se znaelo sto e tatar a sto Makedonec !!!
I DA TI SE MOCAM VO KORPUSOT !!!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
Vanche Teroristo e bil PEDER!!!!
Se ebaval so mazhi i mu go duhal na Todor Aleksandrov!!
I dvajcata se od Novo Selo - Shtipsko a tamu se site Vlasi po rod. Umri kurvo umri da ti ja ebam majkata majchina!
Wiligot 2 years ago
smrt za celoj svet.. :-) Do koga ke se mrazim bre? Dokoga celoj svet ke ni e vinoven? Dokoga ke se izolirame?
paranoiabla 2 years ago 3
100% with you. The Bolkans must unite !
DSetekh 2 years ago
смрт за предавниците.
тешка да им е земјата
vevcanec16 2 years ago
BRAVO ZA VIDEOTO!!!
5*****
pbbMKD 2 years ago
предавник гаден.
opasenfazon 2 years ago