The fact that the government makes very little to zero of the interest you pay, deductible, is outrageous! Banks get bailouts and homeowners and students foot the bill. Absolutely despicable.
It's hard for me to feel sorry for some students for two main reasons:
1.) Some of them are just RETARDS. They choose useless majors such as sociology or political science instead of majors such as engineering or any other science subject. They are just lazy and stupid.
2.) A lot of these losers who face debt now often have BAD grades back in college. They always PARTY two to three times a week, doing weeds and having crazy parties. Who in the world wants to hire these pigs?
Forgiving college debt sound like the criminal government will just give the fascist banks another trillion dollars.
How about suing the banks for giving fraudulent loans! The banks don't have the money in a safe to loan out; they just type some number into a computer!
End the Department of Education!
You know, if people still pay for school even though they know it's too expensive, nothing will change. Boycott!
@whyyesyes I do support education since our country does need doctors, engineers, nurses, etc. However, there's indeed some truth to what you say.
I'm really fed up with the fact that my tax dollars are used to support lazy pigs who teach politicial science or other liberal bullshit subject in college.
@dbbuf1970 Right, because employment is at an all time high. 10 years ago I could understand this comment but in this day in age, whether you're in school or not, it's not exactly easy to get a job. Hell, I'm still looking after a year myself.
@dbbuf1970 Telling someone to get a job in this economy is like telling a thirsty man in a desert to get a drink of water. It doesn't work like that and many of these people have tried to get a paying job.
I'm a college student and I've been looking for employment for a year without any success. I've had to resort to doing non-profit volunteer work on the side just to be able to get experience on my resume. Even with that I've had no success in getting any work. It's that tough.
It'll add $1 trillion to the national debt, and give people every incentive in the world to get even more worthless degrees.
Then credit cards will go unpaid, especially when people have used them for groceries and medicines. If students get their worthless degrees paid for at taxpayer's dime, then consumers will do the same and dump the card payments.
It won't solve any problem. Pay your debts, grit your teeth, and take responsibility. You will learn that no one will come to your rescue.
Hell yes if loans can be forgiven that would be awesome!! Im freaking out i just finished my masters and i do not have a damn job. So there is no way i can repay ..ahhh...
You can't punish financial responsibility. For example, I wanted to go to a far off college coming out of high school. However, my father works at the university (i got a tuition waiver), so I made the compromise and finished school here. I know many others who had the same decision to make as I did, however, they choice schools like northeastern @ 50k a year...and then after the party's over they're complaining about how their victims...pisses me off
@phantom1000A yeah i'm in the same boat (i've got no debt bc i got a tuition waiver in my hometown)..and i'm so sick of being surrounded by people (including friends) that not only feel entitled to their current high standard of living, but believe that they deserve to jump up to higher classes of wealth without any sacrifice, real intelligence, entrepreneurship, or hard work..these people made the decision to make college the best time of their life, and we chose to extend the good times beyond
I'm seeing that a lot of commenters don't grasp the concept or even fully understand what is going on. People are being duped into these outrageous student loans under false pretenses of posperity through education only to find out that that's not the case at all. Something needs to happen, because the student loan system is broken as is the way our government is currently being ran.
Before the communists took over New York City schools. My teachers taught to never open credit card accounts unless you have the money to pay it back. Right before I Graduated to college my teachers warned us to not take financial aid or student loans. Years later I can honestly say it was some of the best advice I ever had. Being that I payed my own way through college and owe nobody anything.
So the American taxpayer has to pay for not only the bankers bailout, but also student loans?! This is an outrage and does not even address the problem.
Financial aid is the problem due to universities basing tuition on how much federal aid they can bring in!
I don't see how this would benefit America as a whole. It would benefit people who have student loans, but it would hurt the people they owe it to. If the debt were simply wiped out, the owners of that debt would be wiped out, if it were transferred to the taxpayer, then the nation still owes the debt, but everyone has to pay for it, not just the people who took out the debt.
@jono8181 Somebody owns the debt. Student loans are often sold in packages (like like mortgages were being packaged and sold), or could simply be owned by the bank that issued it. But SOMEONE owns the loan.
this is stupid. student loans should not be forgiven. people take loans on their own accounts. you dont have to go to college. dont take out bad loans. dont get useless degrees. common sense solves all problems
Students who still have outstanding debt are certainly NOT part of the 1% so forgiving their debt would surely help the 99%. I agree with forgiving student debt and lowering the bank execs salaries to pay for it :)
Of course, no one ever mentions the creditors whose capital has been totally wasted to finance this acamedic-industrial complex. If student debt is "forgiven", expect savers earning 0.1% to suffer even more.
Why just forgive the debt, make student loans impossible instead. There should be a system in place that pays college students to go to school and get average or above grades. They do that in a few countries so it is possible to do and I think they should do that here...
Human nature does not accept freely sharing all resources. Everyone strives to be better and if you are simply allocated resources you can not improve your life. Without currency you are basically told by the government how you can run your life.
There're debt should not be forgiven. If the government goes bailing them out it's the taxpayers who will ultimatly have to pay for someone else's mistakes. I think the should manage it to where there is an easier way by making a more managable payment plan but don't pass the tab to the taxpayers.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Did anyone put a gun to the students heads and make them take large loans? What about those of us who have sacrificed, done the right thing, and repaid our debts? Do we get a refund? Who will pay for the future generations to go to school if the debt never has to be repaid.
It should be free for those who have high grades and must be paid back if you quit,flunk or get below the equivalent of 80% average. Smart kids and hard working kids are rewarded and the "not too capable or interested" have to pay it back.
this is total bullshit. If the government passed a law that student loans are going to be forgiven, I'd sign up for college the very next day, major in some liberal art and party like a rock star for 4 years getting drunk, smoking weed and screwing college chicks every night. Why not? it's free!
I say let them have the debt, but stop charging interest for them if they don't pay. I mean will it really eat the banks alive if they pay back only 110% of what they borrowed regardless of how and when its paid back?
Fucking nazi banks - they are commiting financial genocide - exterminating the financially weak!
I say forgive student loans..PERIOD! I have been working non stop since I was 15-16..paying into a fund (social security) that I will NEVER see! (Im 35 now) and I think my student loans should be forgiven because I will not see that money I have entrusted the government for my retirement! Forgive my loans, I will forgive my SS checks! Stop taking money out of my checks from now on so that I can save for myself and we can call it EVEN! 20 years of my SS TAX to the government, I think its fair!
No it should not. It takes ignorance to buy a loan like that without any real certainty of the future. I'm sure a few people would learn from it even then, but the majority of people who made those loans did so rather aimlessly, and rewarding them with forgiveness would be wrong. We're using the word FORGIVE for a reason, remember!
LMAO @ these fucking tools defending the same banks bringing destruction to the western world. Ya students fuck your lives because you in debt for life to the megabanks for money they loaned from thin air!
@skinnsm23 What I was trying to get across is this: #1 there are not enough jobs to employ everyone with student loan debts. #2 Places of institutions are giving out degrees with no value, in subjects without enough employment to cater to those attaining it. #3 If loan forgiveness is default, then what do we have left? DEFAULT! Either we default without ramifications individual, or we all default while the debt gets sold to a collection agency. I dont see any way out of this.
There is NO debt when 'borrowed' from banks. They create they money out of thin air then destroy it when re-paid (keeping the service fee they misleadingly call interest) .
There is ONLY a loan when someone lost money from their account to loan to you.
And what of the shareholders in the financial insitiutions that that are owed the money? What?! More regulation in the education industry?? The education industry needs to be opened up to the free market. Why do you deadheads think education is so expensive?
The ones that owe over 100,000 dollars get passports and leave the country if that is your only way out do it....when Wall Street goes down it is going to get crazy in the U.S.
Students band together and file a class action lawsuit you were tricked you were promised jobs...dont pay band together..the bankers make big bets and go under you should too.
If you want to forgive student debt, then support me. I am going to write down the first $10,000 of debt and 50% of the remaining balance. We will limit the payments to 10% of income and 20 years. Whatever is remaining gets written off. If you like what you hear, go to mikeballantine2012 org
@skinnsm23 It becomes suffering because you're obviously not as smart as you would have been had you spent more time studying. I guess grade school is a moral hazard too, according to your dented logic. Why send a kid to grade school if some of them are going to wind up being a menace to society? Don't send girls to high school, it's a moral hazard--they'll get pregnant and wind up on government cheese.
Every group would like its debts forgiven which means it must be taken from someone else. How is this justice? How would clearing this debt stimulate the economy more than another group making the same claims? Innovation does not require capitol but necessity, and necessity comes from poverty. Hand-outs mute out and shackle its recipients. Woe to you who covets your neighbors belongings. You open yourself to judgment in this way.
@asalamulekum You dumbass, you think the U.S. is ever going to pay it's debt to China, ever??? So the U.S. Government and the big banks are going to stiff the Chinese people and that's okay with you, but students must pay for an education that is free in civilized countries????
@heaviside1618 Greetings, and may His Holy Light shine down upon you. As the Lord may speak from the mouth of an ass, I will attempt to speak with the asses brain. Please forgive my ignorance but I think you have confused my comment w/ someone else. How is advocating against student loan forgiveness an avocation to "stiff" the Chinese? You are deflecting the argument my friend. Both are wrong. Abyssus abyssum invocat.
@asalamulekum Great post! We have already proven "dept forgiveness" doesn't work! So lets not keep making the same mistakes! Next idea! Keep'um comin'!
The student should work hard and be slave to the banker. If they smart and not lazy take part time job like work in Macdonald to pay for their school, or they live with their mother or grandma, don't drive the fucking new Mustang and dont' go party on the weekend, or stop impress girls with their rich ass. Then maybe they dont' have to worry about the fuckin Debt. I'm so tired of school debt and I don't know how they charge me so high? We stop to take the money that's are not our.
@HerbertWestIII You poor AMERICUNT, endless wars and greedy arms corporations have sucked you dry. It’s like the sucking and slithering sound from silence of the lambs. Dollar printing, dollar depreciation, dollar deception, pathetic economy, who is going to buy your worthless and useless debts, what will you do if China backs out? You don't produce anything now except prisons, war machines, missiles, bombs, and stupid AMERICUNTS like you who continue to believe the lies and illusions.
@tERtasdf That would be the current option. Doesn't really seem like the best vision for the future, but very few parts of the current systems seem like viable long term options. I think the current systems were set up by and for serial killers, and if you're not of their twisted mindset you won't enjoy the end game. I say we change games. The board game Monopoly sucks, that was the whole point of it, it was designed to demonstrate how bad the logical conclusion of our system is. Zeitgeist 4L
The economy in America is built to fail. The one thing that will be left standing is American military, and the population will fall into a socialist system.
No they shouldn't....I had to get a job and pay mine back! Don't be another entity with their "hand out". How 'bout inventing ways to use these students!
@JasonVladimir how much did your boss pay you to kiss the stank out of the crack of his ass? The only hand-out you received was your boss's hairy pale skin ass. RIGHT-WINGER
@DrShitandStank I paid off my loans working a minimum wage job, in the poorest county in NYS & the highest taxed county in the nation. I'm not a "RIGHT-WINGER"! I am just smart enough to learn from our mistakes... and dept foregiveness is a proven fail!
@HerbertWestIII Excuse you? I have a science degree and just tried to become a high school teacher because I like teenagers. I only borrowed $20,000 — the price of books is such a rip off, big business like all of it, I had no choice. Now they're saying I owe $80,000, even after throwing thousands of dollars at it, because I can't find a job that will pay more than $10/hour. Seriously, fuck off.
The corporate model is a lousy model for intelligentsia, in general, and academia, in particular. Debt slavery is not the entrepreneurial spirit that the GOP claims to value.
And all those that could not afford to go to college would financially and Intellectually disadvantaged because they didn't acquire any debt. Which means they got:
Money for nothing and your chicks for free.
Now that ain't working, that's the way you do it.
Let me tell you them guys ain't dumb.
The only way it could be fair is if, all those that could afford to acquire debt be given a $100,000 handout to make society equal.
Sorry but if you took out loans no matter how enormous, you NEED to pay it back. Professors need to be paid somehow, along with all the services.
I accept the loans I got as a freshman college student and hope to find a good paying job to pay it all off by the time I'm 90, not expect some damn government intervention.
Don't want debt? Go to community college, don't use a car (bike/WALK), don't use credit cards, and just get $1 menus. Just live cheap since the rich worked for what they have
The govt. subsidies are the problem. Colleges just set tuition high enough to capture all of the subsidies. They can spend at will by expanding administrative pork, salaries, spending on things that have nothing to do with education, etc.
Prices couldn't remain where there at absent subsidies because people wouldn't be able to afford the prices. Colleges would either lack butts in the seats or they would be forced to drop prices.
@DrShitandStank Yeah, the guy who called the housing bubble in its infantcy back in late 2001 is the fool. The guy who has warned that a debt-based paper currency system and central bank always lead to excessive debt and high inflation is the fool. The guy who predicted that stimulus would fail is the fool.
There are many econmically literate people that understand that colleges just set tuition high enough to capture all of the subsidies. Too bad you aren't.
I feel for these students who went to school and now can't find a job but debt should not be wiped away. They got the loans so they should be responsible for paying them. Then again this is a country where bankers screwed up the economy and got bailed out.
@AssholeBlogger That's bloody outrageous. My son has a 35K AUS debt, but he has gained a 'good' job. I don't believe interest is charged at all here in OZ.
1. Goldman Sachs CEO's, Lyold Blankfein, Jamie Diamond are Zionists 2. IMF Deputy CEO, John? Lisky is a Zionist 3. Ex IMF CEO, Dominic Strauss is a Zionist 4. World Bank CEO, Robert Zoellick is a Zionist 5. Ex World Bank CEO, James Woolfesen is a Zionist 6. Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke is a Zionist 7. Ex Fed Chairman, Alan Greenspan is a Zionist 8. Obama Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner is a Zionist 9. George Bush Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson is a Zionist All coincidences? Hardly.
@sigmapsicharlie Read "The Protocols fo the learned elders of Zion", "The Thirteenth Tribe" and you can also listen to a speech in 1961, at the Willard Hotel in Washington D.C., by another heroic Jewish-American, Benjamin H. Freedman, where he warned America of the dangers of Zionism. Another Jewish-American hero Jack Bernstein, before he was assassinated by Zionist Mossad, wrote "My farewell to Israel, A thorn in the Middle East" and "The Life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel"
@HayteStreet Read "The Protocols fo the learned elders of Zion", "The Thirteenth Tribe" and you can also listen to a speech in 1961, at the Willard Hotel in Washington D.C., by another heroic Jewish-American, Benjamin H. Freedman, where he warned America of the dangers of Zionism. Another Jewish-American hero Jack Bernstein, before he was assassinated by Zionist Mossad, wrote "My farewell to Israel, A thorn in the Middle East" and "The Life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel"
@MyTube22T is that it? I mean just under the U.S. Secretary of Education Appoints Members of Equity and Excellence Commission has 28 Heads, and countless heads under them. U.S. Department of State U.S. Secretary of Defense The Cabinet Secretary of Energy U.S. Department of Labor U.S. Department of the Treasury United States Secretary of Commerce U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs U.S. Secretary of State's Global Partnership Etc.. And that's all you found. Your not a good NAZI R U?
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"The genius of the Jews is to live off people, not off the land, nor off the production of commodities from raw materials, but off people. Let other people till the soil; the Jew, if he can, will live off the tiller. Let other people toil at trades and manufacture; the Jew will exploit the fruits of their work. That is his particular genius. If this genius be described as parasitic, the term would seem to be justified." Henry Ford, American Industrialist. Author of 'The International Jew '
I say that all college tuitions should be free and shouldn't pay loans because it should be about educational experience and not about worrying how to pay back.
This is America , men can sell their semen , women can sell their eggs and both sexes can work as prostitutes ! Can't see why they are comolaining maybe they are too picky about the jobs they are willing to take!!?
Liquidation, everything needs to be liquidated. And as for those who lose their pensions etc, well they're going to have to suffer like the rest of us and anyways the way things are going they'll lose those pensions and etc for sure to the deficit. Liquidate, we need to liquidate.
@iwantthisfuckingname exactly what I was thinking. I worked to put myself through college and so did my sister. We did not get any loans. So where is my rebate?
@iwantthisfuckingname The right wing will tell you you're lucky you're not going to debtor's prison. In civilized countries, of course you would get repaid.
@UglySouth I agree it's a waste of time and most of them can't find jobs anyway. They are slaves to the government and I am a strong conservative saying let our children go. Interest is a scam!!!!
Not necessarily forgiven, but they shouldn't have to pay until they get a job. And it should be interest free until then. If they get a job and start paying it off, and then the company lays them off, then payments and interest should suspend until they are back to work again. And when accruing interest, and government should make it be at the same rate as the banks pay. No usuary rates. That would be fair.
@DrShitandStank ... you're right. The US has lost 40% of it's manufacturing sector jobs to the corporations moving their operation overseas. The better paying jobs. And burger jobs never did pay very well. The sad thing is that now to even get a burger job, you have to have a college degree.
> good jobs are gone. Even burger jobs don't pay worth of shit.,
You go rob
SuperLocoLudicolo 1 week ago
The fact that the government makes very little to zero of the interest you pay, deductible, is outrageous! Banks get bailouts and homeowners and students foot the bill. Absolutely despicable.
7575047 2 weeks ago
It's hard for me to feel sorry for some students for two main reasons:
1.) Some of them are just RETARDS. They choose useless majors such as sociology or political science instead of majors such as engineering or any other science subject. They are just lazy and stupid.
2.) A lot of these losers who face debt now often have BAD grades back in college. They always PARTY two to three times a week, doing weeds and having crazy parties. Who in the world wants to hire these pigs?
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
I think people want the reward (money) instead of wanting to work because you love your work.
whyyesyes 1 month ago
@whyyesyes What the hell are you talking about? Are you on drugs?
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
Forgiving college debt sound like the criminal government will just give the fascist banks another trillion dollars.
How about suing the banks for giving fraudulent loans! The banks don't have the money in a safe to loan out; they just type some number into a computer!
End the Department of Education!
You know, if people still pay for school even though they know it's too expensive, nothing will change. Boycott!
whyyesyes 1 month ago
@whyyesyes I do support education since our country does need doctors, engineers, nurses, etc. However, there's indeed some truth to what you say.
I'm really fed up with the fact that my tax dollars are used to support lazy pigs who teach politicial science or other liberal bullshit subject in college.
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
I stopped going to a big university and switched to a community college when I could no longer afford to go there:/
nibblesann 1 month ago
This is a bunch of BS. Try working a job while in college or getting the GI Bill. What a bunch of whiners! LOL
dbbuf1970 2 months ago
@dbbuf1970 Right, because employment is at an all time high. 10 years ago I could understand this comment but in this day in age, whether you're in school or not, it's not exactly easy to get a job. Hell, I'm still looking after a year myself.
hellokittycutie2003 1 month ago
@dbbuf1970 Telling someone to get a job in this economy is like telling a thirsty man in a desert to get a drink of water. It doesn't work like that and many of these people have tried to get a paying job.
I'm a college student and I've been looking for employment for a year without any success. I've had to resort to doing non-profit volunteer work on the side just to be able to get experience on my resume. Even with that I've had no success in getting any work. It's that tough.
MrEniena 1 month ago
It'll add $1 trillion to the national debt, and give people every incentive in the world to get even more worthless degrees.
Then credit cards will go unpaid, especially when people have used them for groceries and medicines. If students get their worthless degrees paid for at taxpayer's dime, then consumers will do the same and dump the card payments.
It won't solve any problem. Pay your debts, grit your teeth, and take responsibility. You will learn that no one will come to your rescue.
anebturia 2 months ago
Hell yes if loans can be forgiven that would be awesome!! Im freaking out i just finished my masters and i do not have a damn job. So there is no way i can repay ..ahhh...
yazzytours 2 months ago
You can't punish financial responsibility. For example, I wanted to go to a far off college coming out of high school. However, my father works at the university (i got a tuition waiver), so I made the compromise and finished school here. I know many others who had the same decision to make as I did, however, they choice schools like northeastern @ 50k a year...and then after the party's over they're complaining about how their victims...pisses me off
b0bmarley3333 2 months ago
typical college liberal:
spends thousands on college
cant find a job "good enough for them"
blames banks/Bush/rich people/global warming/war
wants debt forgiven
me:
go to community college
get a job
????
no debt
phantom1000A 2 months ago 2
@phantom1000A yeah i'm in the same boat (i've got no debt bc i got a tuition waiver in my hometown)..and i'm so sick of being surrounded by people (including friends) that not only feel entitled to their current high standard of living, but believe that they deserve to jump up to higher classes of wealth without any sacrifice, real intelligence, entrepreneurship, or hard work..these people made the decision to make college the best time of their life, and we chose to extend the good times beyond
b0bmarley3333 2 months ago
@phantom1000A Well said.
dbbuf1970 2 months ago
you gave the banks 7 Trillion and all they did was fill their pockets and gambled on risk
what's another one trillion for millions of students
marniespeaks 2 months ago
don't pay
marniespeaks 2 months ago
RT always has a new anchor. It's annoying.
metorphoric 3 months ago
lol . .
apple bum . . .
metorphoric 3 months ago
I'm seeing that a lot of commenters don't grasp the concept or even fully understand what is going on. People are being duped into these outrageous student loans under false pretenses of posperity through education only to find out that that's not the case at all. Something needs to happen, because the student loan system is broken as is the way our government is currently being ran.
srobby33 3 months ago
Before the communists took over New York City schools. My teachers taught to never open credit card accounts unless you have the money to pay it back. Right before I Graduated to college my teachers warned us to not take financial aid or student loans. Years later I can honestly say it was some of the best advice I ever had. Being that I payed my own way through college and owe nobody anything.
TheSupercat2468 3 months ago
NO
joinProfusionEx 3 months ago
So the American taxpayer has to pay for not only the bankers bailout, but also student loans?! This is an outrage and does not even address the problem.
Financial aid is the problem due to universities basing tuition on how much federal aid they can bring in!
seangarrett92 3 months ago
Should the RT/kremlin whores be forgiven for being treasonous cunts? No, they should be hanged by their fake tits.
DforDIckhead2100 3 months ago
@DforDIckhead2100 Or hang you by your fake dick.
jono8181 3 months ago
plain and simple NO coz no one put a gun to their heads and made them get the loans they agreed to all the demands when they signed the loan papers
TexasBeaner214 3 months ago
I don't see how this would benefit America as a whole. It would benefit people who have student loans, but it would hurt the people they owe it to. If the debt were simply wiped out, the owners of that debt would be wiped out, if it were transferred to the taxpayer, then the nation still owes the debt, but everyone has to pay for it, not just the people who took out the debt.
christo930 3 months ago
@christo930 "owners of the debt"?? lol, no one owns it, it was created out of thin air. Deposits aren't used to fund loans. Haven't been for ages.
jono8181 3 months ago
@jono8181 Somebody owns the debt. Student loans are often sold in packages (like like mortgages were being packaged and sold), or could simply be owned by the bank that issued it. But SOMEONE owns the loan.
christo930 3 months ago
this is stupid. student loans should not be forgiven. people take loans on their own accounts. you dont have to go to college. dont take out bad loans. dont get useless degrees. common sense solves all problems
clingaa 3 months ago
Students who still have outstanding debt are certainly NOT part of the 1% so forgiving their debt would surely help the 99%. I agree with forgiving student debt and lowering the bank execs salaries to pay for it :)
Thegrayrage 3 months ago
shyt at the very least they could make them interest free..i pay 50 a month just in interest alone...its bullshyt
hardhatg69 3 months ago
what about a student who worked hard and saved money to pay his tuition? He looks like a fool in this society
madhusudanvr 3 months ago
Children are tommorows Future,or scary post apopcolyptic world.
now those college studens who dont have jobs can play Fallout to prepare for stuff life that
Hieagandaus 3 months ago
Should student loan debt be forgiven? how about all students just never pay off they college loans as a form of protest?
theabomation 3 months ago
Of course, no one ever mentions the creditors whose capital has been totally wasted to finance this acamedic-industrial complex. If student debt is "forgiven", expect savers earning 0.1% to suffer even more.
misesownskeynes 3 months ago
Why just forgive the debt, make student loans impossible instead. There should be a system in place that pays college students to go to school and get average or above grades. They do that in a few countries so it is possible to do and I think they should do that here...
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Forgive student debt. We have been raped enough.
DEB0714 3 months ago
No they need to pay it back
southerngirls4fun 3 months ago
No they did to pay it back
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SidTempleton 3 months ago
Forgive ALL debt, nationalize banks, give everyone a house, anything less is BS
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@dontblockmedk
LOL. Should the world make you ultimate ruler to micromanage the entire global economy so that these absurd demands can be met? Give me a break.
misesownskeynes 3 months ago
@dontblockmedk Return yourself to Europe and make your living.
fireofsev 3 months ago
@dontblockmedk
Human nature does not accept freely sharing all resources. Everyone strives to be better and if you are simply allocated resources you can not improve your life. Without currency you are basically told by the government how you can run your life.
Blandi3737 3 months ago
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DedmanUmotionS 3 months ago
I have the uneasy feeling that students with unpaid loans have red tagged and eventually will be sent to FEMA labor camps.
Tigerpoi51 3 months ago
There're debt should not be forgiven. If the government goes bailing them out it's the taxpayers who will ultimatly have to pay for someone else's mistakes. I think the should manage it to where there is an easier way by making a more managable payment plan but don't pass the tab to the taxpayers.
CyberTechWolf 3 months ago
As Peter Schiff said, just abolish student loans so schools will be forced to lower their price and no students will never have debt!
sdgsdf45 3 months ago
All Student Loan Debt should be given over to Sandusky, Paterno, & the rest of that Happy Valley Cult!
Rapnzapper 3 months ago
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Did anyone put a gun to the students heads and make them take large loans? What about those of us who have sacrificed, done the right thing, and repaid our debts? Do we get a refund? Who will pay for the future generations to go to school if the debt never has to be repaid.
travelinchina 3 months ago
@travelinchina Wow that is such a great argument! You are a scholar and an innovator. If only everyone thought like you, everything would be ok.
HungryNomadicLion 3 months ago
It should be free for those who have high grades and must be paid back if you quit,flunk or get below the equivalent of 80% average. Smart kids and hard working kids are rewarded and the "not too capable or interested" have to pay it back.
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StuckInTheRabbitHole 3 months ago
this is total bullshit. If the government passed a law that student loans are going to be forgiven, I'd sign up for college the very next day, major in some liberal art and party like a rock star for 4 years getting drunk, smoking weed and screwing college chicks every night. Why not? it's free!
Steve2323ZX 3 months ago
@BunnySwanson Obama's grandma was a Zionist too?
heaviside1618 3 months ago
I think this topic won't make much differnece if we do not get a dependable curency that is not based on FIAT money.
DMChoreographer 3 months ago
how is this fair for people who worked and paid off their student loan?
sharinganclan213 3 months ago
I say let them have the debt, but stop charging interest for them if they don't pay. I mean will it really eat the banks alive if they pay back only 110% of what they borrowed regardless of how and when its paid back?
Fucking nazi banks - they are commiting financial genocide - exterminating the financially weak!
Beef1188 3 months ago
I say forgive student loans..PERIOD! I have been working non stop since I was 15-16..paying into a fund (social security) that I will NEVER see! (Im 35 now) and I think my student loans should be forgiven because I will not see that money I have entrusted the government for my retirement! Forgive my loans, I will forgive my SS checks! Stop taking money out of my checks from now on so that I can save for myself and we can call it EVEN! 20 years of my SS TAX to the government, I think its fair!
LetsgetphysicalAg 3 months ago
No it should not. It takes ignorance to buy a loan like that without any real certainty of the future. I'm sure a few people would learn from it even then, but the majority of people who made those loans did so rather aimlessly, and rewarding them with forgiveness would be wrong. We're using the word FORGIVE for a reason, remember!
Emidretrauqe 3 months ago
No!
777Carmine777 3 months ago
@herbertwestlll says who? U gonna make me pay these fucking jew loans? Come and try motherfucker and i'll put a clip in your face faggot
12Oc7ock 3 months ago
LMAO @ these fucking tools defending the same banks bringing destruction to the western world. Ya students fuck your lives because you in debt for life to the megabanks for money they loaned from thin air!
12Oc7ock 3 months ago
@supermungusfungus umadbro?
12Oc7ock 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 that's a great idea
anothaview 3 months ago
@ShatterState the sad thing is that society encourages it, and fleeces people into thinking its mandatory and absolutely required.
WisdomThroughLogic 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 What I was trying to get across is this: #1 there are not enough jobs to employ everyone with student loan debts. #2 Places of institutions are giving out degrees with no value, in subjects without enough employment to cater to those attaining it. #3 If loan forgiveness is default, then what do we have left? DEFAULT! Either we default without ramifications individual, or we all default while the debt gets sold to a collection agency. I dont see any way out of this.
WisdomThroughLogic 3 months ago
YAAAAAAAAASSSSSS!!!!
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@HerbertWestIII ok hot shot
WarRogers 3 months ago
There is NO debt when 'borrowed' from banks. They create they money out of thin air then destroy it when re-paid (keeping the service fee they misleadingly call interest) .
There is ONLY a loan when someone lost money from their account to loan to you.
nanciqwerty 3 months ago
And what of the shareholders in the financial insitiutions that that are owed the money? What?! More regulation in the education industry?? The education industry needs to be opened up to the free market. Why do you deadheads think education is so expensive?
murf69 3 months ago
The ones that owe over 100,000 dollars get passports and leave the country if that is your only way out do it....when Wall Street goes down it is going to get crazy in the U.S.
JohnnyBGood11 3 months ago
Students band together and file a class action lawsuit you were tricked you were promised jobs...dont pay band together..the bankers make big bets and go under you should too.
JohnnyBGood11 3 months ago
Horrible idea.
nesterisagod1776 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 Rock on!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 Great post! I share your very same story and believe the same!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
These people were scammed from the get-go
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it will be forgiven when the currency collapses.
BloodMech21 3 months ago
If you want to forgive student debt, then support me. I am going to write down the first $10,000 of debt and 50% of the remaining balance. We will limit the payments to 10% of income and 20 years. Whatever is remaining gets written off. If you like what you hear, go to mikeballantine2012 org
McamelyneII 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 Like what? Massive defaults? do you know what massive student loan default would do to the USA?
WisdomThroughLogic 3 months ago
Even if there was a debt forgiveness, there are no jobs to earn money!
1977Melville 3 months ago 12
@1977Melville It would end a lot of debt slavery though...and lets face it DEBT IS SLAVERY!
random69ism 3 months ago
No, it shouldn't because some of these idiots use them to buy cars and completely unrelated stuff.
blackbird309 3 months ago
If debt can be forgiven by the stroke of a pen, how real was the debt to begin with? :-D
admiralcrash1 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 Well that's good, I am happy everything worked out for you.
Spread1The1Word 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 It becomes suffering because you're obviously not as smart as you would have been had you spent more time studying. I guess grade school is a moral hazard too, according to your dented logic. Why send a kid to grade school if some of them are going to wind up being a menace to society? Don't send girls to high school, it's a moral hazard--they'll get pregnant and wind up on government cheese.
heaviside1618 3 months ago
Every group would like its debts forgiven which means it must be taken from someone else. How is this justice? How would clearing this debt stimulate the economy more than another group making the same claims? Innovation does not require capitol but necessity, and necessity comes from poverty. Hand-outs mute out and shackle its recipients. Woe to you who covets your neighbors belongings. You open yourself to judgment in this way.
asalamulekum 3 months ago
@asalamulekum You dumbass, you think the U.S. is ever going to pay it's debt to China, ever??? So the U.S. Government and the big banks are going to stiff the Chinese people and that's okay with you, but students must pay for an education that is free in civilized countries????
heaviside1618 3 months ago
@heaviside1618 Greetings, and may His Holy Light shine down upon you. As the Lord may speak from the mouth of an ass, I will attempt to speak with the asses brain. Please forgive my ignorance but I think you have confused my comment w/ someone else. How is advocating against student loan forgiveness an avocation to "stiff" the Chinese? You are deflecting the argument my friend. Both are wrong. Abyssus abyssum invocat.
asalamulekum 3 months ago
@asalamulekum Great post! We have already proven "dept forgiveness" doesn't work! So lets not keep making the same mistakes! Next idea! Keep'um comin'!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
this sounds fishy lets give the small majority what they want so we please all,this is the oldest trick these elites have wake up.
surfjerr 3 months ago
The student should work hard and be slave to the banker. If they smart and not lazy take part time job like work in Macdonald to pay for their school, or they live with their mother or grandma, don't drive the fucking new Mustang and dont' go party on the weekend, or stop impress girls with their rich ass. Then maybe they dont' have to worry about the fuckin Debt. I'm so tired of school debt and I don't know how they charge me so high? We stop to take the money that's are not our.
jnnycliff 3 months ago
@skinnsm23 You sound bitter, why do you want other students to suffer like you did?
Spread1The1Word 3 months ago
"Should student loan debt be forgiven?"
No. And, student loans shouldn't be made by the government either.
cooperbry 3 months ago
@HerbertWestIII You poor AMERICUNT, endless wars and greedy arms corporations have sucked you dry. It’s like the sucking and slithering sound from silence of the lambs. Dollar printing, dollar depreciation, dollar deception, pathetic economy, who is going to buy your worthless and useless debts, what will you do if China backs out? You don't produce anything now except prisons, war machines, missiles, bombs, and stupid AMERICUNTS like you who continue to believe the lies and illusions.
biorgymd 3 months ago
yes
bluegreen1138 3 months ago 4
@bluegreen1138 no the goverment should eat the lives of the students
tERtasdf 3 months ago
@tERtasdf That would be the current option. Doesn't really seem like the best vision for the future, but very few parts of the current systems seem like viable long term options. I think the current systems were set up by and for serial killers, and if you're not of their twisted mindset you won't enjoy the end game. I say we change games. The board game Monopoly sucks, that was the whole point of it, it was designed to demonstrate how bad the logical conclusion of our system is. Zeitgeist 4L
bluegreen1138 3 months ago
The economy in America is built to fail. The one thing that will be left standing is American military, and the population will fall into a socialist system.
imRyRy 3 months ago
The problem is, that it's hard to compete with large corporations to start a business, invent a new product...I've tried both!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
No they shouldn't....I had to get a job and pay mine back! Don't be another entity with their "hand out". How 'bout inventing ways to use these students!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
@JasonVladimir how much did your boss pay you to kiss the stank out of the crack of his ass? The only hand-out you received was your boss's hairy pale skin ass. RIGHT-WINGER
DrShitandStank 3 months ago
@DrShitandStank I paid off my loans working a minimum wage job, in the poorest county in NYS & the highest taxed county in the nation. I'm not a "RIGHT-WINGER"! I am just smart enough to learn from our mistakes... and dept foregiveness is a proven fail!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
@DrShitandStank ...oh and lets not make this about race! There are good and bad roll models in all races!
JasonVladimir 3 months ago
@HerbertWestIII go smell a donkey's ass you low life bum
DrShitandStank 3 months ago
@HerbertWestIII Excuse you? I have a science degree and just tried to become a high school teacher because I like teenagers. I only borrowed $20,000 — the price of books is such a rip off, big business like all of it, I had no choice. Now they're saying I owe $80,000, even after throwing thousands of dollars at it, because I can't find a job that will pay more than $10/hour. Seriously, fuck off.
WarRogers 3 months ago
The corporate model is a lousy model for intelligentsia, in general, and academia, in particular. Debt slavery is not the entrepreneurial spirit that the GOP claims to value.
ginesdepasamonte 3 months ago
And all those that could not afford to go to college would financially and Intellectually disadvantaged because they didn't acquire any debt. Which means they got:
Money for nothing and your chicks for free.
Now that ain't working, that's the way you do it.
Let me tell you them guys ain't dumb.
The only way it could be fair is if, all those that could afford to acquire debt be given a $100,000 handout to make society equal.
JPMorganMustDie 3 months ago
Sorry but if you took out loans no matter how enormous, you NEED to pay it back. Professors need to be paid somehow, along with all the services.
I accept the loans I got as a freshman college student and hope to find a good paying job to pay it all off by the time I'm 90, not expect some damn government intervention.
Don't want debt? Go to community college, don't use a car (bike/WALK), don't use credit cards, and just get $1 menus. Just live cheap since the rich worked for what they have
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@kmelfina how will I get a doctorate at community college?
teacherofculture 3 months ago
@teacherofculture community college first, then hope that the credits transfer out. that's what some of my friends plan on doing.
kmelfina 3 months ago
@kmelfina go drop off the earth you sap sucker
DrShitandStank 3 months ago
@HerbertWestIII Your an ignorant f*ck!! Want to keep everyone as dumbed down as you are. Pathetic.
AncestralReflections 3 months ago
The govt. subsidies are the problem. Colleges just set tuition high enough to capture all of the subsidies. They can spend at will by expanding administrative pork, salaries, spending on things that have nothing to do with education, etc.
Prices couldn't remain where there at absent subsidies because people wouldn't be able to afford the prices. Colleges would either lack butts in the seats or they would be forced to drop prices.
R. Paul has pointed out how this deception works.
joepeeler34 3 months ago
@joepeeler34 ron paul's answers are shit.......
DrShitandStank 3 months ago
@DrShitandStank Yeah, the guy who called the housing bubble in its infantcy back in late 2001 is the fool. The guy who has warned that a debt-based paper currency system and central bank always lead to excessive debt and high inflation is the fool. The guy who predicted that stimulus would fail is the fool.
There are many econmically literate people that understand that colleges just set tuition high enough to capture all of the subsidies. Too bad you aren't.
You're shit :)
joepeeler34 3 months ago
THE USA IS COMPLETELY FUCKED AND RAPED BY THE JEW.
THE COUNTRY IS ALMOST BANKRUPT YET IT STILL SENDS 3 BILLION A YEAR TO ISRAEL? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
PURELOVECREW 3 months ago
I feel for these students who went to school and now can't find a job but debt should not be wiped away. They got the loans so they should be responsible for paying them. Then again this is a country where bankers screwed up the economy and got bailed out.
rich5248 3 months ago
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PURELOVECREW 3 months ago
I borrowed 11K, ended up paying back 48K... fuckers RAPED ME
AssholeBlogger 3 months ago
@AssholeBlogger That's bloody outrageous. My son has a 35K AUS debt, but he has gained a 'good' job. I don't believe interest is charged at all here in OZ.
AncestralReflections 3 months ago
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@MyTube22T You forgot Obama's sidekick, Joe Biden is a Zionist.
heaviside1618 3 months ago
@heaviside1618 You are correct and according to him, he loves to be one. Thanks.
MyTube22T 3 months ago
@MyTube22T What is a Zionist again??
sigmapsicharlie 3 months ago
@sigmapsicharlie Read "The Protocols fo the learned elders of Zion", "The Thirteenth Tribe" and you can also listen to a speech in 1961, at the Willard Hotel in Washington D.C., by another heroic Jewish-American, Benjamin H. Freedman, where he warned America of the dangers of Zionism. Another Jewish-American hero Jack Bernstein, before he was assassinated by Zionist Mossad, wrote "My farewell to Israel, A thorn in the Middle East" and "The Life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel"
MyTube22T 3 months ago
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@MyTube22T That didn't answer my question.
sigmapsicharlie 3 months ago
@MyTube22T do you have evidence supporting all those claims?
HayteStreet 3 months ago
@HayteStreet What claims?
MyTube22T 3 months ago
@HayteStreet Read "The Protocols fo the learned elders of Zion", "The Thirteenth Tribe" and you can also listen to a speech in 1961, at the Willard Hotel in Washington D.C., by another heroic Jewish-American, Benjamin H. Freedman, where he warned America of the dangers of Zionism. Another Jewish-American hero Jack Bernstein, before he was assassinated by Zionist Mossad, wrote "My farewell to Israel, A thorn in the Middle East" and "The Life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel"
MyTube22T 3 months ago
@MyTube22T is that it? I mean just under the U.S. Secretary of Education Appoints Members of Equity and Excellence Commission has 28 Heads, and countless heads under them. U.S. Department of State U.S. Secretary of Defense The Cabinet Secretary of Energy U.S. Department of Labor U.S. Department of the Treasury United States Secretary of Commerce U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs U.S. Secretary of State's Global Partnership Etc.. And that's all you found. Your not a good NAZI R U?
Zalahblue 3 months ago
@Zalahblue Attack the messenger...LOL. The number one jewish trick. Call them all Nazis and anti-syntheic...TOO FUCKING FUNNY..LOL!
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WAKING UP.....NOT FUCKING FAST ENOUGH!!!
PURELOVECREW 3 months ago
@PURELOVECREW Yeah, he threw it out there! He's wide open! ;-)
Zalahblue 3 months ago
So this guy thinks we should forgive debt?
That sounds about right from a nation that assumes zero responsibility.
tommy0135 3 months ago
The U.S. CORPORATION-14 amendment- took control of the "student loans" when the "Obama" admin took over..
ONLY 5 MORE EXEC ORDERS LEFT THIS YEAR?
IronRangeSurvival 3 months ago
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archangel88668866 3 months ago
"The genius of the Jews is to live off people, not off the land, nor off the production of commodities from raw materials, but off people. Let other people till the soil; the Jew, if he can, will live off the tiller. Let other people toil at trades and manufacture; the Jew will exploit the fruits of their work. That is his particular genius. If this genius be described as parasitic, the term would seem to be justified." Henry Ford, American Industrialist. Author of 'The International Jew '
MyTube22T 3 months ago 13
@MyTube22T EXCELLENT POST!
PURELOVECREW 3 months ago
@MyTube22T And who created those parasites? Racist Europeans who wouldn't let Jews own any land.
bindlessMoredom 3 months ago
I say that all college tuitions should be free and shouldn't pay loans because it should be about educational experience and not about worrying how to pay back.
98bigbutt 3 months ago
it's all up shit creek!!
AncestralReflections 3 months ago
This is laughable.
TheHossUSMC 3 months ago
This is America , men can sell their semen , women can sell their eggs and both sexes can work as prostitutes ! Can't see why they are comolaining maybe they are too picky about the jobs they are willing to take!!?
Snutih 3 months ago
Debt is enslavement
TheEpoxyExpert 3 months ago
Money was made out of thin air !!!! FU fed reserve
TheEpoxyExpert 3 months ago
@silencerrpms umadbro? Stfu faggot
12Oc7ock 3 months ago
americans are the slaves of the new world order! peac to the ppl fight back befor its to late,
matamat2k 3 months ago
chooch it
choochinbigtime420 3 months ago
Liquidation, everything needs to be liquidated. And as for those who lose their pensions etc, well they're going to have to suffer like the rest of us and anyways the way things are going they'll lose those pensions and etc for sure to the deficit. Liquidate, we need to liquidate.
Mardasee 3 months ago
I worked 2 jobs to put myself through school. Will I get a rebate?
iwantthisfuckingname 3 months ago
@iwantthisfuckingname exactly what I was thinking. I worked to put myself through college and so did my sister. We did not get any loans. So where is my rebate?
SilencerRPMs 3 months ago
@iwantthisfuckingname The right wing will tell you you're lucky you're not going to debtor's prison. In civilized countries, of course you would get repaid.
heaviside1618 3 months ago
LOL unregulated market??? yeeaahhh the department of education isn't a gov't institution after all...
WorthlessCurrency 3 months ago
Hell no! Someone will have to pay it back, and that means us tax payers will. You signed the loan ... pay it. If you can't, default on it.
reb618 3 months ago
@reb618 well take your ass on and smell the crack of a horse's ass you Christian bum
DrShitandStank 3 months ago
@DrShitandStank I'm an atheist you dipshit.
reb618 3 months ago
more jobs for the pleople today in canada and usa just asking
history797 3 months ago
Yes, forgive those student loans! College is a waste!
UglySouth 3 months ago
@UglySouth I agree it's a waste of time and most of them can't find jobs anyway. They are slaves to the government and I am a strong conservative saying let our children go. Interest is a scam!!!!
mfirebrand1 3 months ago
Not necessarily forgiven, but they shouldn't have to pay until they get a job. And it should be interest free until then. If they get a job and start paying it off, and then the company lays them off, then payments and interest should suspend until they are back to work again. And when accruing interest, and government should make it be at the same rate as the banks pay. No usuary rates. That would be fair.
intuitiveexplorer 3 months ago 2
@intuitiveexplorer good jobs are gone. Even burger jobs don't pay worth of shit.,
DrShitandStank 3 months ago
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@DrShitandStank ... you're right. The US has lost 40% of it's manufacturing sector jobs to the corporations moving their operation overseas. The better paying jobs. And burger jobs never did pay very well. The sad thing is that now to even get a burger job, you have to have a college degree.
> good jobs are gone. Even burger jobs don't pay worth of shit.,
intuitiveexplorer 3 months ago