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  • hey guys when when u buy a console is for what? is to play games. u dont buy the console to get the console u buy it to play games. so if ur lazy to buy a snes, get an emulator.

  • @OldShcoolGameNigga ...or just scour yard sales. I got a super nintendo at a yard sale for 20$, with the RF switch box, AC adapter, 2 controllers, and super Mario world

  • @oRecluse99o Yep! I don't think most people even consider that.

  • @oRecluse99o And what about used games.

  • emulator's + powerful pc + ps3/xbox 360 controller = better then orginal console (except n64)

    cause playing in full frame rate is better then limited

  • @contineus999hungry You mean "than" not "then" But I forgive you. I dunno. I suppose it depends on what games you are playing. In my experience anything 8 or 16 bit is not as good as the console.

  • Emulation= Mastubating- Console= Fuck with a girl ( get laid)

  • save sates and downloading roms rule, i got super bomberman 1-5 on the senes roms and they're awsome to play, cept the 5th and the 1st one god those ones are bad, the best one is super bomberman 2 best end boss ever reminded me of castelvania, any way i like bomberman..yea, but alot of the roms site are pure goose maybe your judging them before you've tried them, the site i go to usually say if there hacked or not the pure ones, roms let you play pokemon of the past on the gb, awsome game :P

  • I used to be one of those people who frequently downloaded emulators and stuff. I used to have an bunch of games on the computer, including Japanese games. I stopped downloading them, however, because they just aren't the same as playing them on an actual console, especially games that require a Super Scope.

  • They don't put enough games on VC- and if I want a fan translated game that isn't released here, your damn straight I'll download it! As for savestates- they kick ass! I wish I had 'em back in 1987 when I got my first NES. Fuck battery failures or elaborate passwords. If Nintendo was smart, they'd release a copy-proof emulator u can install in your comp., and copy-proof ROMS. I'd never download a ROM ever again and hand them my cash with a cherry on top.

  • I completely agree.

  • I've had a SNES for about 15 years, and It's literally falling apart. I have Holes in it, and It still works fine. the biggest problem I've had with the games is that the Cart battery dies everyone couple of years, and I have to restart my game. I honestly like how it erases, I like replaying games. Consoles are better, I agree.

  • I'm just going to comment on the save state

    *In some games their are crossroads, you gotta choose one of them, so that function saves time

    *If you get called, if the game is a bit too long, if you're not in the mood to play the thing all over again to get to the point you need, embrace that function

    All these systems together take too much space, and money

  • Reminds me of when one asshole reviewed Superman 64 and complained "the sky is purple, wtf?!". It's not purple in the actual fucking game, goddamn cockmongler.

  • yah i don't understand these people that say the older consoles break.. my friend still has the original Atari 2600 and it works, my NES works, SNES, Works.. Sega Master System works..

    the NEWER consoles are the unreliable ones.

  • would nintendo8 be kind of a grey area, or what, its confusing.

  • $75 at a thrift store were I live, 8bit/16bit game player XP

    And the guy has boxes upon boxes of NES and SNES games

  • ill admit ive got a few roms but im prolly not gonna keep them. most of the ones i downloaded are broken or the emulator for the games itself is a beta which is also broken. they are not ALL illgal (sorry bad spelling i know) but he's right its not the same. id rather go on steam buy the game then get a new physics engine or something. at least i can play the original if i feel like it. and yes the engines are leagal. the company themselves release the codes for it.

  • you said its impossible to break a 72 pin connector for a nintendo? try owning a the same nintendo for 19+ years and tell me how well its working for you

  • @risingfall I think I said it's impossible to break a nintendo. Or at least that is what I meant. The 72 pin will go bad on their own. And my NES is working just fine thanks.

  • @thegaminggoose im not trying to challenge you, i agree. 72 pin connectors do break

  • I only use emulators to try out old games or play games that i have already finished. If i want to play a game then i get the real copy even if it means paying a good sum of money for it (im really picky about this kind of stuff >.>)

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  • Is this a joke? Everything you said past 3:10 is bullshit! You just don't wanna admit emulators are the same.

  • but the differences in emulation are so unoticable no one cares. and besides, old systems and games are expensive.

    Ex: Secret of mana (SNES) cart price: $70.00

  • Secret of Mana is not worth you paying 70.00 RUN!

  • ...what?

  • @shroyuken I got to use video game stores and get old carts all the time for dirt cheap.....A few months ago I got Final Fantasy III for the SNES for 30 dollars.....well worth every dollar....and besides people pay 60 dollars now days for shit games. Oh yeah and I seen Secret of Mana at Pre-Played (a used video game store) for 35 dollars! The most expensive Ive seen there was Chrono Trigger for 50 bucks.

  • @shroyuken Why would you ever pay that much for secret of mana?!?!? Earthbound MAYBE.

  • @vendettasoulman I know! some people just HAVE to have the originals, regardless of financial repercussions

  • Gah!!

    I mean,I have purchased an Atari 2600 and have collected alot of carts for it:p

    Yeah even though there's Stella... I just got tired of it and am much happier with a real VCS:)

  • I have own an Atari 2600 collected alot of carts for it and have begun nabbing SEGA CD titles off Ebay:)

    However I play those CD games on KEGA fusion ^_^

    I LOVE the crystal clear sound of the Genesis on my PC instead of the fuzzy distorted output you get from a real Genny;)

  • Roms are fun sometimes... but I prefer an actual console...

  • You posted this vid in 2007. Emulators have come a very very long way since then. I challenge you to try latest Nestopia, Bsnes, and Fusion and then tell me how horrible they are to play. They're easy to install and navigate through. You may just find that you can use it at the very least as a tool to prospect for future game purchases. Not that Nintendo would care unless you buy it on the VC, and those are emulators too. So who's losing out here? It looks like you.

  • 3:28 is absolute bullcrap. as long as you keep your emulators updated they will play EXACTLY the same as the console that they emulate.

  • Bullcrap right back at you. They do not at all. Some do, but many do not.

  • You can't break a console?

    I know this video is old but you must not have ever owned a Xbox 360 or been lucky enough to have a PS3 take a crap on you.

    I got both the RROD and the YLOD.

  • Own them both. No issues thus far.

    Allow me to amend what I said: It's hard to break a cartridge bases system. But yes, it's possible.

  • Actually, there is only one way ROMs are legal, the ROM has to come from your actual copy of a game, so you have to open up let's say, Super Mario World, put it in a computer, and pull the data off of the circuit board.

  • well whats the point of that if you can just download them for free

  • ahaha and the savestates lmao, i noe right!

  • i agree on the breakin games part, its not as if there running a marathon and over worked, they sit there and run games there whole life lol not very strainfull

  • You look like a family member of my'n, Daniel

  • ive been using ROM's for a long time and i see little to no difference with the console when you change the resolution the game is running in. also, i have a n64 usb controller adapter so i can play it on the pc. roms are useful for recording gameplay and many other things.

    about its legality, i have at least 100 ROM's and i'm still here in one piece

  • I'm 35. I got my first atari 2600 at age four and have played countless arcade, console, and PC games since. I recently decided to try an NES emulator, and it works great. I'm having a blast playing SMB, Zelda and all the rest. Playing these classics led me to buy a Wii, something I NEVER thought I'd do. I'm enjoying Metroid Prime: Corruption and Super Mario Galaxy. Nintendo can thank the makers of my emulator for about $400 in sales from my pocket.

  • Thank god there is some one else in this world who hates emulators to, i think people say nes are expensive i got mine for 25$ with like 5 games, gamers these days are shouldnt even be called games i mean any one can be a gamer and they play games that arent even hard.

  • oldschool consoles any justice lol.

  • Thanks for commenting back Goose, to be honest i do not have a WII virtual console, i was wondering do they have everything like the Yoshi's island, Star fox,Donkey Kong Country 1,2 etc etc on there? If so i might hold back on the SNES i was planning on buying, and going for the WII virtual console then lol.

    Yeah that is true on the rom, it is a pain. I mean it did not have the real feel of any of the oldschool consoles we played back in the day. I just believe that the roms do not due the

  • Donkey Kong Countries are, but I dont think Yoshi's Island is on there yet. Yoshi's Story is there I believe. Honestly, I hardly look there.

  • Also i did delete the roms aswel, because it's not worth it having these companies go after you really.

  • There is no rule on it as far as I know whether you delete them or not. Also, I dont know about the win win thing. Its much much cheaper for them to sell VC stuff. The production and shipping costs of old snes and nes hardware might be higher than what they would make in the long. It's a great thought though.

    Roms are all bad, but they should not be a person's "old" school collection.

  • excuse me "all bad"? they save space, time and money.

  • I agree completely with you goose on your statements, i played Mario 64 on ROM and on N64, the difference happens to be with pixels, controls etc etc and i ultimately agree that the N64 is much better than Virtual console.

    My problem seems to be that there is barely any consoles in make out anymore. I wish that Nintendo would make a store selling a redesigned version of the SNES for cheap, so that way we could all buy it, and it would be a WIN WIN situation for the company and consumer.

  • The Nintendo website states that EVERYTHING emulation related is wrong and illegal. Well, yes it is. But saying that it causes a serious damages to revenue - is bullshit, because Nintendo dropped support of NES 15 years ago and not selling it since - what damage could it be? And btw, there is many good games that is accessible only though emulation because of rarity, or because they was released only in Japan.

    And it`s really doesn`t seems like emulation hurting sales of Virtual Console games.

  • @celciones "The Nintendo website states that EVERYTHING emulation related is wrong and illegal. Well, yes it is."

    Incorrect.

  • "The Nintendo website states that EVERYTHING emulation related is wrong and illegal. Well, yes it is."

    So if I emulate a very old [20+] system, I'm committing a moral wrong?

    So if I'm a video game company, and instead of porting a old title to a new platform, both platforms being owned by said hypothetical companies, and I just emulate on the newer console the hardware to run the old one, I'm somehow morally wrong?

    Nintendo is full of shit.

  • You realise with all these old games and consoles, the game companies don't see any money from us buying them now? Let's see, I can pay someone selling their own games or systems, not helping devs at all, or get it for free... Tough choice.

  • They see money from virtual console sales. Given that logic, why not buy computers and iPods that guys "find" that fell of trucks?

    I am not saying ROMs totally suck; I just dont think people should think of them as collections.

  • I'm talking about stuff like amazon and ebay. And that truck thing? If they were free I'd take them. But why buy something the devs will never see money for when I can get it free?

  • No real reason unless you want to own the orignal. And the fact it can play better.

  • If it's a series I like I like to collect all the games, like MGS and God of War and others, but emulators are good for everything else.

  • What what you are telling me is you have the Metal Gear NES games, nice!

  • i have everything but those. working NESs are expensive

  • @thegaminggoose I never thought of my ROMs as a collection. My love of emulation came when I realized I was able to play the "lost" Final Fantasy games in English. And when 2 and 3 were finally released here, I snapped up the chance to BUY them. The PS2 version of Dragon Quest 5 has an English patch- so I imported the actual game to rip and patch. I'm about flat broke so I can't afford a Swap Magic right now, or a PC to emulate, but when I get my taxes next year- I'm playing that sunvabitch!

  • i have 8 consols i think lol i dunno plus have had a psx and a ps2 but got rid of em cause my ps3 has backwords compat and thru out the years the only one ive ever had problems with was the 360 but sent that in got it back and it has worked fine ever since the only thing i use roms for are hacks like kazio world or making em myself and trying em out old games are so cheap and my isnt hooked up for the best gaming experience so i just stick with the old versions

  • Copper Corrosion for "Not working carts" i mean

  • Yes. Though typically the copper just gets dirty. The old pins on NES would corrode before the copper. I agree with you ^_^

  • i used to get into all sorts of arguments with my "Friends" about the dust thing...

    It's just crap. I still have all of my old consoles.

    sure i'm circuit bent my NES to make music. but it still "Works" per se.

  • also it's copper corrosion. i do see emulator usage as very wrong. but if it's a game i can't get ahold of anymore like for example. the MSX's MGS.. i would buy the originals but i can't find any.

  • Since when using emulators has become a moral issue?

  • Using an emulator is blaspamy. It is a disgrace to use them. You do not get the ture expiriace.

  • I have had the "true experience" years ago and each time it cost me £25 to £35. I am done with paying for old games. I have no moral issues with using roms. I can now play all the old games I want without spending a small fortune on each.

    If someone does a game review and uses a roms as a source - I have no problems with that. People should not get hung up on debating whether consoles are better than emulators, just look for the fun.

  • well said.

  • I agree .. But I use PS1 Emulator couse i like to play online with my friends with it. 2. You can Highly Improve Graphics. Like im doing with my REsident Evil (you can see in my video). and yeah I have the original CD thats another plus you can Use Playstation CD on pc emulator. Last epsxe i most precise emulator of them all And In long term it EXpanded the life spann and united ps1 fans and still is expanding.

  • Yeah but i don't like wean people review games on emulators that sucks. They Cheat , they brag about things bugs/gliches that are result of emulation. Also Whats the point of speed run in emulator thats a good point there man. Cheers :)

  • lol!

  • emulators suck especially ps2 emulators

    i just buy the game

  • you have a better chance of entering a lottery and winning 250 million dollars and getting laid by carrie underwood on the same day then getting caught for downloading this stuff.

  • well, I get what your saying, but romsites and emulating have been around for more than a decade, 1999 actually and based on what you are saying should more sites be closed by now. since they are shutting most of them down? I mean it couldn't possibly take an entire decade to shut down some sites. But, that may not be the issue, for when one site is shut down, like 5 of them just spring up, it's like they regenerate themselves

  • dos`nt matter I allready have 16000 roms!! lol

  • I hate tool assisted speedruns. People use emulators and save states. They don't feel the pain as the others who need to restart the whole game by just one mistake to have a perfect speedrun. Fuck TAS, that's why I hate Emulators and roms.

  • I know it's kind of late but I just wanted to add an extra point:

    I only download roms to test out games before I buy them, It's a little easier than looking for a review if the game is rare.

    I might download a game if it costs too much (the ultra-rare ones)

  • TROGDOR SHIRT FTW!!!!

  • Bullshit. I don;t give a crap alot copyright.

  • Okay. I will give you game copyright. What about spelling?

  • ......touche.

    Well spoken, my friend.

  • lol do i see frame skipping in this video

  • earthbound.

  • I only use an emulator when my system is put away. (For safe keeping) and i mean i use it also to play the games i played when i was like 4 or 5 when i had nothing better to do. And yes Save States are for wimps.

  • I agree with you, Goose, but I can understand that people would play roms when the originals cost hundreds of bucks. I mean stuff like Snatcher (SCD), Panzer Dragoon Saga or Radiant Silvergun are just friggin expensive - provided you would even find a copy in halfway acceptable condition. Downloading games like these is absolutely okay. It hurts noone to download a game that isn't even officially on sale anymore.

  • I bought a Copy of Panzer Dragoon off of Ebay (box and instructions) for like 17.00 USD. You just have to know how to look.

  • Panzer Dragoon *SAGA*?! The JRPG? You know, the one that comes on 4 discs and is currently available as "Buy now" for 290 bucks (complete), and 30 bucks (1 disc only!)? Dude, you're confusing it with the regular PD, right?

  • Fucking little word Saga missed my eye. Yeah the Orginal one. :(

  • LOL, would've been too good to be true. If you ever get a copy for anything under 150, you'd better praise the Lord! ;)

    Well, that or contact me for re-selling... or both!

  • it's a matter of convenience, i have about every genesis game ever made all on one flash drive along with an emulator. Any computer running windows, i can just pop in the flash and be playing in seconds.

  • the only reason i ever use a rom and emulator is for games i really want to replay the i dont have anymore. but i dont see too many emulators that can play disc based games( a few but they suck and the work you go through you'd be better off going to a pawn shop.)

  • damn straight

  • Emulators do suck! Same with save states I mean come on back in the day there were no saves states and that was the challenge of games and savestates take away the challenge of classic games.

  • I agree with you. Emulators and roms suck.

  • You break a nintendo because you had it when you were a little kid >_>.

  • What?

  • i only use roms because the actual cartrige is hard as hell to find for most games.

  • Yeah, I hear ya. Thanks for reminding me I need to add annotations to this video.

  • Sure.

  • i tried to get a mario rom once. found it, and like you said the it glitched, had the wrong sprite ( namely a fireflower sprite instead of a goomba) and it's not fun at all.

  • if you want ill send you a super mario all stars rom and a great super nintendo emulator.

  • I agree with you to a point about ROMs. I don't use save states on any games. The whole moral issue, well some people don't have morals. I am one of the many that don't have any when it comes to ROM's. Yeah the good old classic Mario,Super Metroid and Zedla games shit like that should be protected and preserved for what they really are MEANT TO BE PLAYED ON THE ACTUAL CONSOLE. For the simple fact that the Wii has VC i will be getting one.

  • I agree with you 90%, i use to use roms but i realized that there crap and nothing like playing the actual game, but i gotta say i think the Virtual Console games are worth the money because all together its cheaper then buying the consoles and games. Also they run pretty much the same as the real game and when your playing SNES games with a classic controler it feels the same. Oh yah, by the way, nice Trogdor shirt. ^_^

  • And I have fucked my own ass, so there.

  • GROSS

  • lol

  • this dude just flat out pisses me off

  • I have several old systems that aren't functional after years of nothing but normal use. Call it luck. I could buy new ones or repair them, but I'd rather just play them on my laptop with a cheap gamepad. I know the experience isn't the same, there's a certain magic that you just can't emulate, but that's not why I play the games. The whole nostalgia trip thing doesn't do much for me. Contra is a great game no matter what you're playing it on. I'm a cheap, lazy bastard, but I'm content with that

  • Theres also the pain of having to take it out, set it up and putting it away every time you want to play it. Emulators, it's all there.

    Still I do use the original carts 99.9% of the time as they look more authentic, emulators are just too perfect, to sharp a picture and it detracts from the final game.

    The only reason I ever use emulation is if theres a PAL/NTSC problem that screws up the recording.

  • if the game stops working, clean it. works every time

  • personallyi dont like emulators, the thrill of walking out of the thrift store with 6 or 7 NES carts is just too addicting

  • youre hot

  • umm thanks?

  • Trogdor shirt FTW.

  • and save states

    are you shittin me?

    what aer you a wimp

    hahahaha

  • Also with newer consoles a shorted resistor (which can happen over time) can cause the laser that scans the game disk to burn a ring into it effectively making the console unusable. So some consoles have hardware faults that cause them to cease functioning over time. Do you expect every person out there to have the time or the expertise to repair their outdated systems.

  • I do not mean to imply that emulation is 100% bad, but they should really not be the primary way people play games. One, buy a new system if the laser goes bad. Two, that is not a classic console.

  • What if someone wants to play older console games on their computer, its kind of lame to attack people because you're convinced they're too lazy or whatever you were going on about to buy console cartridges.

  • I've played dozens of games on rom that played exactly the same as on the system.

    Also, there's an arguement that you haven't even touched on: Rom hacks. Editing a game to give it more replayability once you beat the hell out of it's normal game.

  • the only time i'd bother to make an issue out of it is if someone built a mame cabinet and charged people to use it.

  • I agree with the I never ruined my systems. I havent either. I always hear bout someone pouring water/liquid into there system, I always look at them like, WTF!? I loaded my dad my SNES and, IDK how he did it, but the back plug came off. *Im bad at names.* I Always wanted to know how to replace it, but i got a bad feeling I gotta replace it. But myself, never ruined my console. God i miss my SNES.

  • Wow.. Really? $12 to fix my SNES?

    I'll have to look into this.

  • I play all kinds of roms and they play the same because they ARE THE SAME! Its just code... This guy is gay!

  • Not always.

    I mean the Roms being the same.

    Not me being gay.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that.

  • hahahah seinfeld humor good one

  • Wimps!!! you got it buddy

  • so what

  • I don't understand. You tell us not to use emulators, but you HEAVILY implied that with the Captain Saver less play that you used an emulator. First off, Captain Saver was not released in America, so you'd have to have went to Japan or got it off ebay from a japanese person. You were also saying "maybe I should use save states", implying that you could.

    I'm not calling you a liar, but it seems a bit hypocritical.

  • Sigh. I did not really articulate my thoughts well in this video. The argument I am railing against in this video is this: ROMs are not the same as the game. They just are not. Some are almost identical, but there are subtle differences. I didn't say that one should never play a ROM. One cannot do a "review" on a ROM if one never played the original. How do they know its accurate? Some of the videos I was responding to implied that ROMs were peoples' classic game collection.

  • You also mentioned that they were illegal, amoral, and it didn't matter whether you had the cartridge or anything like that. They may not be the same as the game. The only thing I was saying was that you implied how much you were using an emulator in the Captain Saver review, and you're reminding us here it's illegal.

    Did you have the original cartridge of Captain Saver? I just find it hard to believe you would buy a random game from Japan just to review it.

  • I have a pretty big game collection. E-bay gives great access to imports as do other sites. There is a lot of research out there about ROMs. I have actually learned more info since I made this video. But thank you for trying to call me into the carpet. But I don't think I said they are amoral. I said it depends on how the bios dump is done to whether or not they are considered a direct copy.

  • I can agree with you 100%!!

    If you play the game on an emulator, you don't get the original feel that you would be playing it on the real system.

  • I think eventually in 2 or 3 years, it will be Napster all over again.

  • lol, LOVE THE TROGDOR SHIRT!!!!!!

  • sometimes emulators are fun; one NES emulator allows you to instantly rewind the actual gameplay and watch it in reverse - music and all!

    Then again, the NES was great because of notoriously strict licensing. Honoring intellectual property IS what nurtures it! ROM fans beware virtual consoles!!

  • Oh and i make all my iso's from my original games so it's 100% perfect :)

  • playing emulated stuff is just as good and if not better!! i play mame psx snes megadrive nes and they are perfect and all can be played using the real gamepads and the psx emus support vibration :) also what do think your playing when downloading snes n64 games for the wii and psxgames for ps3?.. your playing emulated versions of those games on new hardware so whats the differnece?

  • My point was that video game software companies frown upon ROMS because they are pirated copies of their games. You pay for the games in the virtual consoles not for ROMs online.

  • Your saying aswell games are not "pure" trust me ive got games tht play the same and in most cases look better,also people run on about save states you can save both ways with emulation,also i own 100's of games but love to play psx on my emu because it looks so much better,plus i play with dualshock control so yes its like the real thing no missing graphics or sound its like the real thing,soon i'll be making a video showing both in action :)

  • It depends on the emulator, the system, the settings and the ROM. Yes, most of them are mirrors of the actual games. Some of them have minor flaws that most people would never notice. Different enemies, movement, different glitches. They do not "feel" the same when you play. I am not saying they are totally 100% bad, I think I was a tad harsh in this video, but I do think the console is generally better.

  • Ive not really noticed any missing graphics or enemy movements change,but like you said it depends on the emu,but i run 3 types and use vast amount of settings and plugins to get the perfect match,also i think with the cd's emus are the better choice because you have no moving parts,thts why the old snes and megadrive should never break as there are no moving parts to break,and yes people its not dust like the man said :)

  • "Some of them have minor flaws that most people would never notice. Different enemies, movement, different glitches."

    There are many versions of the same game, if you didnt know that. US, European, fixed versions, hacked versions, bad versions. There are like 20+ versions of some Super Mario, and they all were dumped from real cartridges people bought in stores.

  • Please do not tell me you are serious. Yes, there are European versions of games. They are similar to the NA versions. ROM Hacks? You are killing me. That example helps my argument.

  • A lot of Japanese TurboGrafx games are harder than their North American counterparts (I guess they think we're not as hardcore as them,) I'm not saying every game in a different region is different but a lot of them are.

    And save states come in handy when a game has a bullshit password system, but I agree, emulators will never replace that "feel" of actually playing the console. It's still easier to have the entire NES collection on your computer than in your living room, though.

  • you were right about the systems breaking props go to you i have all mine they work perfectly

  • i added you as a friend if thats cool with you

  • I do not have the request yet. but sure.

  • thanks man got it

  • W00000T! Trogdor shirt!!

    TROGDOR! BURNINATE!!!

  • my thing is you cant get the games any more I cant mlay Morio any more I cant go play FinalFight CD any more where can I get thos games.

  • just get out and buy the ....ing games CMON I DO IT

  • I heard somewhere that ROM's are legal if you own the actual game

  • There is the fair use doctrine. Within that doctrine there is the right for the consumer to make archives for backup purposes only. Yet you'd probably still go to court and have to plead fair use but for this to work the courts can't have ANY bootleg material (stuff you can't defend as archival) found by law enforcement).

  • If you look at the purpose of copyrights are simply meant to provide incentive for intellectual work by giving the creator a temporary monopoly over their work. This is where fair use can be used as a defence as the copyright laws were never intended to limit how the user uses the works since the user paid for the right to use the material as they see fit within reason (this is ignoring licence agreements). It is up to the defendant to prove fair use.

  • Save states r 4 n00bs

  • Very well said thats why i buy any old games i want i buy off ebay for like 3 bucks, also nice shirt

  • Can't beat having a really good game that you love playing physically in your hands. Lovely shiny box art.

  • I still own all my old systems and I do think theres something lost in translation with roms, but i've also seen some damn near perfect roms too, and played some hard to find games that i might not otherwise ever see. collectors will still still buy games off ebay and from shops, but theres still a limited amount out there, they're not in production anymore, so i see roms as a way to preserve some these classic games forever.

  • The thing is it's not Nintendo or Sega thats losing the revenue on these old games, It's mother fuckers at trade in shops that give people next to nothing for their classic games (usually in store credit) and turn around and sell them for jacked up prices. So no i don't feel bad at all for downloading roms.

  • Right on. I'm sick of watching old video games get criticized in reviews for bugs or flaws in the ROM. I can see using ROMs to capture gaming footage for your review, but yeah. If that's all you (ubiquitous you)'ve played; then you haven't played the game you're reviewing, and you probably don't even realize how/why your review sucks.

  • I suggest an off-shoot of eBay, called "Half.c om."