Guys, forget all of the artsy-fartsy observations that your utterly-full-of-shit college professors tried to shove down your throats. Just take it for what it is; an entertaining story. That's all it needs to be.
Thank you Tabitha for fishing out of the trash what would become my favorite story above anything else :) Be it book or movie, I can't get enough of it.
I'll always adore the man who created all the monsters who scared me as a kid and still do, and helped me cope with the difficulties in life throughout the allegory of the monstrous, wonder- world he created during the 20th century. He left a trace that's never gonna fade and be erased by nobody!!
@ProRanting What about "It"? It's a good example of the difficulties kids undergo during the transformation from childhood to puberty. How they are neglected and ignored, left alone to cope with the "monsters" in their lives which in this case are-loneliness, depression, desperation, unrequited love, mocks, bullying, abuse, low self esteem, or whatever you can find in the circle of that vicious period. And if you are somewhat familiar with Adolescent psychology, you'd find the Allegory in it..
@890slay Allegorey is a figurative mode of representation that is expressed indirectly/nonverbally. In 'IT" the character's adolescent struggles were conveyed directly and verbally. There was no representation of the desperation, loneliness, abuse, ect ect. It was just there directly in the character's struggles. For instance, with Beverly's abusive relationship (In the novel's beggining) there was no indirect tap dancing around the issue. She was plainly (directly) being abused by her partner.
@ProRanting The definition given by you for the literary device ''allegory '' is correct, but my point was that, the shape-shifting monster under the guise of a clone, Named Pennywise-the dancing clone, was the the very allegory about all fears kids keep and stumble upon along the path. For example- when Beverly heard the voices coming from the sink and subsequently the blood pouring and splashing all over the bathroom, she called her father, but he couldn't see the blood, he wouldt believe her
@ProRantingSorry I ran out of characters. So When Beverly's father came to the bathroom he couldn't see the blood stained every damn thing. She was desperate. All of the kids were desperate, because no one adult could see or believe the monstrous things going on around. They were alone.The whole point of the story was parents didn't see or care much about the problems of their kids. And when you grow up the magic disappears. Kid's are forced to cope with their troubles of their own by themselves
@890slay I'm not gonna get into this conversation, or argument, but i just thought i'd say: IT is a story, and within are several ideas, hidden meanings whether or not King intended it that way or not. I agree about what you said about parents not truly "seeing", the magic disappearing, but i don't think IT has any singular, overall meaning other than IT being a result of all those subliminal meanings into just a story (the BEST book ever, literally, in my opinion!)
@ProRanting So this is an extend metaphor conveyed through an entire narrative, in which objects, persons, and actions in the text are equated with meanings that lie outside the text. And if you don't see it then you are mentally blind. Think about it. May be you are not stupid, really.
@890slay When did this minor disagreement turn hostile? Calling me stupid...
Anyways, I'm saying that isn't allegorey because it plainly states that children have to cope with their own problems instead of leaving ambiguity . And I disagreed with your adolescent example, but I actually agree that IT may represent the childrens individua fears. I just don't think the novel in it's entirety is allegory. For instance, Bill once says "Isn't a story just a story" to a professor in the novel.
@ProRanting I didn't want to insult you. And if I did, that wasn't intentional. I still believe that IT is a good example of allegoric narrative. I agree that Under the Dome bears a political, environmental, and governmental message as an appeal to our rulers. But you couldn't make me doubt or disclaim my opinion about IT. I think we don't share the same point of view and our arguments could deepen and bog down. we both wouldnt back off, so I find it pointless to convince you anymore, me too
@890slay Still I think even Pennywise isn't an example of allegorey because he doesn't just represent the fears of the children he literally turns into their greatest fears, which leaves no ambiguity. True allegory is displayed in Under The Dome with Big Jim Rennie represented goverment bureaucracy while Andy represents goverment incompetence. I'm saying IT doesn't have themes I'm just saying the novel in it's entirety is too literal too be allegorey. Parts of it may merit allegorey though.
@kamelion7 If you watch 100 scariest movie moments (Here on youtube) King discusses Carrie (Because it made the list).
He doesn't specify if he liked it or not, but I'm sure he did because he does state that as soon as the movie was over he knew it would be a huge hit.
That's amazing. What a story. And thus, just like that, the world finally got its first introduction to the greatest horror writer since Edgar Allan Poe. And now, forty years and one van later, his reign of terror lives on!
I love how at 00:24 King says he was "lazy", it just really shows how he isn't so full of himself as many people think, and that everyone at times doubts themselves or has weaknesses when trying something as daring as writing a book.
@AliceElphabaWonka: Same here. It never ceases to amaze me how Stephen is the second most successful author (monetarily, and still pretty high on the list when it comes to fame) in the history of mankind, and yet he has always been the first to point out the weak points of both himself and his work. In fact, he just recently affirmed that he is STILL lazy in an interview for Under The Dome (didn't want to get off his ass to do the research). Truly a genuine, modest guy.
One makes King different from lots of writers - he's not only a good storyteller on paper, but in reality as well. It's a real pleasure to listen to him. Always amusing.
Guys, forget all of the artsy-fartsy observations that your utterly-full-of-shit college professors tried to shove down your throats. Just take it for what it is; an entertaining story. That's all it needs to be.
JeffersonDinedAlone 1 day ago
0 dislikes. thats right.
LowerEndProductions 1 month ago
him and Ken Follett are the most amusing writers to both read and hear
allxtar 1 month ago
I just watched an interview w/King on Conan & he said it was a Rexall Pharmacy?? I guess those little things change in time!?
Ortheosie 2 months ago
Thank you Tabitha for fishing out of the trash what would become my favorite story above anything else :) Be it book or movie, I can't get enough of it.
pattisgirls 2 months ago
wow that is fantastic!
TheMajaaristo 8 months ago
This man inspired me to become a writer.
EndlessLaymon 8 months ago 2
I'll always adore the man who created all the monsters who scared me as a kid and still do, and helped me cope with the difficulties in life throughout the allegory of the monstrous, wonder- world he created during the 20th century. He left a trace that's never gonna fade and be erased by nobody!!
890slay 8 months ago 4
@890slay I don't think King really stepped into allegory until he wrote Under The Dome
Sincerely,
-Negative Nancy
-Debbie Downer ect ect
ProRanting 8 months ago
@ProRanting What about "It"? It's a good example of the difficulties kids undergo during the transformation from childhood to puberty. How they are neglected and ignored, left alone to cope with the "monsters" in their lives which in this case are-loneliness, depression, desperation, unrequited love, mocks, bullying, abuse, low self esteem, or whatever you can find in the circle of that vicious period. And if you are somewhat familiar with Adolescent psychology, you'd find the Allegory in it..
890slay 8 months ago
@890slay Allegorey is a figurative mode of representation that is expressed indirectly/nonverbally. In 'IT" the character's adolescent struggles were conveyed directly and verbally. There was no representation of the desperation, loneliness, abuse, ect ect. It was just there directly in the character's struggles. For instance, with Beverly's abusive relationship (In the novel's beggining) there was no indirect tap dancing around the issue. She was plainly (directly) being abused by her partner.
ProRanting 8 months ago
@ProRanting The definition given by you for the literary device ''allegory '' is correct, but my point was that, the shape-shifting monster under the guise of a clone, Named Pennywise-the dancing clone, was the the very allegory about all fears kids keep and stumble upon along the path. For example- when Beverly heard the voices coming from the sink and subsequently the blood pouring and splashing all over the bathroom, she called her father, but he couldn't see the blood, he wouldt believe her
890slay 8 months ago
@ProRantingSorry I ran out of characters. So When Beverly's father came to the bathroom he couldn't see the blood stained every damn thing. She was desperate. All of the kids were desperate, because no one adult could see or believe the monstrous things going on around. They were alone.The whole point of the story was parents didn't see or care much about the problems of their kids. And when you grow up the magic disappears. Kid's are forced to cope with their troubles of their own by themselves
890slay 8 months ago
@890slay I'm not gonna get into this conversation, or argument, but i just thought i'd say: IT is a story, and within are several ideas, hidden meanings whether or not King intended it that way or not. I agree about what you said about parents not truly "seeing", the magic disappearing, but i don't think IT has any singular, overall meaning other than IT being a result of all those subliminal meanings into just a story (the BEST book ever, literally, in my opinion!)
unrealityproduction 4 months ago 2
@ProRanting So this is an extend metaphor conveyed through an entire narrative, in which objects, persons, and actions in the text are equated with meanings that lie outside the text. And if you don't see it then you are mentally blind. Think about it. May be you are not stupid, really.
890slay 8 months ago
@890slay When did this minor disagreement turn hostile? Calling me stupid...
Anyways, I'm saying that isn't allegorey because it plainly states that children have to cope with their own problems instead of leaving ambiguity . And I disagreed with your adolescent example, but I actually agree that IT may represent the childrens individua fears. I just don't think the novel in it's entirety is allegory. For instance, Bill once says "Isn't a story just a story" to a professor in the novel.
ProRanting 8 months ago
@ProRanting I didn't want to insult you. And if I did, that wasn't intentional. I still believe that IT is a good example of allegoric narrative. I agree that Under the Dome bears a political, environmental, and governmental message as an appeal to our rulers. But you couldn't make me doubt or disclaim my opinion about IT. I think we don't share the same point of view and our arguments could deepen and bog down. we both wouldnt back off, so I find it pointless to convince you anymore, me too
890slay 8 months ago
@890slay Still I think even Pennywise isn't an example of allegorey because he doesn't just represent the fears of the children he literally turns into their greatest fears, which leaves no ambiguity. True allegory is displayed in Under The Dome with Big Jim Rennie represented goverment bureaucracy while Andy represents goverment incompetence. I'm saying IT doesn't have themes I'm just saying the novel in it's entirety is too literal too be allegorey. Parts of it may merit allegorey though.
ProRanting 8 months ago
And yet again, no one thinks to ask King what his opinion is of the ePalma movie aaptation of 'Carrie'.....
kamelion7 9 months ago
@kamelion7 King has been asked many times about the movie and he always answers that it is one of his favourite adaptations done from his work!
warrioroftheworld01 9 months ago
@kamelion7 If you watch 100 scariest movie moments (Here on youtube) King discusses Carrie (Because it made the list).
He doesn't specify if he liked it or not, but I'm sure he did because he does state that as soon as the movie was over he knew it would be a huge hit.
ProRanting 8 months ago
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That's amazing. What a story. And thus, just like that, the world finally got its first introduction to the greatest horror writer since Edgar Allan Poe. And now, forty years and one van later, his reign of terror lives on!
PerversionsOfNature 10 months ago
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PerversionsOfNature 10 months ago
Stephen King Lazy?!?!? The man shits novels! And the coolest part is his novel's aren't shit! They are gold.
ProRanting 1 year ago 3
@ProRanting So really, King shits gold?
LedDaveZeppelin 1 year ago 2
@LedDaveZeppelin INDEED HE DOES.
ProRanting 1 year ago 3
@ProRanting haha nice.....
jedimaster303 8 months ago
Anybody know where I can see the whole interview of this?
jay733 1 year ago
I love how at 00:24 King says he was "lazy", it just really shows how he isn't so full of himself as many people think, and that everyone at times doubts themselves or has weaknesses when trying something as daring as writing a book.
AliceElphabaWonka 1 year ago
@AliceElphabaWonka: Same here. It never ceases to amaze me how Stephen is the second most successful author (monetarily, and still pretty high on the list when it comes to fame) in the history of mankind, and yet he has always been the first to point out the weak points of both himself and his work. In fact, he just recently affirmed that he is STILL lazy in an interview for Under The Dome (didn't want to get off his ass to do the research). Truly a genuine, modest guy.
SpeCulaTionS101 1 year ago 2
stephen king is funny :D
daisyhinojosa23 1 year ago 2
I'm sure he's tired of telling this story over and over again. Good story, though.
83phatman 1 year ago
I love him so, so, so much.
JoyGrenade 1 year ago
Carrie is my favorite novel by stephen king!!! It gives you such a real feeling
spotdathief 1 year ago
@spotdathief That's my favorite too :)
taffycool 1 year ago
i was there!!
BubbaFartinski 1 year ago
@BubbaFartinski really?
spotdathief 1 year ago
@BubbaFartinski OMG LIKE SO JEALOUS!
findingsanta 1 year ago
i want 2 c the moo v
runescapemaster4911 1 year ago
The future lies ahead...
And so it did stephen king rocks.
beckboy203 1 year ago 2
i like steve cause he's humble and pretty down to earth. not pretentious like alot of other writers.
samnangpoe 2 years ago 5
The future lies ahead...
Stargaze79 2 years ago 4
One makes King different from lots of writers - he's not only a good storyteller on paper, but in reality as well. It's a real pleasure to listen to him. Always amusing.
AntonScream 2 years ago 21
clearly one of the greatest to ever do it
cKRONIC 2 years ago 4
I've read this story a dozen times, but hearing King recite it makes it feel so fresh.
erinschr 2 years ago 23