Eleguá (Elegua, Elegba) Yoruba rhythms, chants & dance

[MegaKevin1011]

abbures yo considero su teoria de q las mujeres no pueden tocar aña claro pero me imagino q en el video no es un aña si no un agberikuran o agbericola q es un tambor sin fundamento creo q no hay problema con eso creo yo corrijanme si estoy errado ashe para todos... Olorun Nagbe. mis respetos

[marlie14]

Para la informacion de todos, en Nigeria originalmente a la mujer se le representa con el mismo poder que al hombre. Por lo tanto ellas pueden ser y hacer todo lo que el hombre hace, hasta ser babalawo. Fue cuando la religion emigro que tuvo que acoplarse a la cultura donde se encontraban para asi ser aceptados, y un ejemplo de la acoplacion fue el machismo de que solo el hombre puede ser babalawo, mentira.

Hagan su tarea y averiguen bien los origenes antes de hablar.

[AdrianD2010]

no aceptar que una mujer toque un batá por tradiciones sería una barbaridad , en si sería una falta de respeto a la misma religión no conceder ese derecho, sería casi como el islam en ciertos sentidos...NO GRACIAS! eso simplemente sería aceptar un concepto MAACHISTA en la historia de esta religión, es aceptar algo caduco.. por favor sauqen eso y crezcan, háganle ese favor a la religión! saludos

[TheCrystalStormz]

My interpretation of Ellegua came as a Warrior (waste and legs only) in leather red strips worn about the waste, and reddish skin... naturally in the jungle of a dream. This is very beautiful, Many blessings.

[loverbulldogs]

abure coincido con lo que dice la mayoria, soy mujer y no me gustan los "machitos" pero lo que he aprendido de la religion es a RESPETARLA, una cosa es nuestra igualdad ante la sociedad y otra muy distinta a respetar y acatar lo que nos dicta la religion, recuerde el porque una mujer no tiene permitido tocar el tambor, para los que no saben: en un patakie ochun engaño a shango con elegua y cuando shango se entero mato a ochun y con su piel se hizo un bata por eso tenemos prohibido tocar el bata

[yankee4life493]

Take it easy guys! Its the 21th Century! Besides, that's just a show....in Cuba you wont see women playing drums or batas!!! Nothing against my beautiful cubanitas, but traditions are traditions!!!

[LYDEX2010]

When i firstly saw Elegua, I thought it was Elegun Masqurade, but i got to understand later that it was Esu. Any way either its elegua or esu, its still YORUBA CULTURE, go on long live Yoruba , long live Nigeria.

[mofietofie]

the man dancing SHOULD NOT be in a Jester costume

[sweavo]

He's dressed as Elegua. Elegua walked through a village in a hat that was half red and half black so that the villagers on one side of the street argued with the villagers on the other side of the street. In some stories the villagers annihilate one another over this. in others, he returns to the village and says that he did it to show them how people can have different perspectives of the same thing. So you see a jester outfit, and I see an Orisha.

[SexyMorenoPaTi]

But I dont understand why heterosexuals try to control everything and say that a homosexual cannot play the drum as well... it sounds like machista crap to me... as I said, not all homosexual men are super flamboyant and act like a girl... Herosexual bata players have said that "a homo can't play drums because he doesn't even like women" ... All this overprotection from the homos sounds like the bata players are somehow getting off sexually off slapping the skins... that to me, sounds gross ;-)

[SexyMorenoPaTi]

Creo que eso es puro machismo de que los "homosexuales" no pueden tocar a anya. Todos los homosexuales no son pajaritos que dejan plumas por donde vayan...

Mostly everything in this religion has logic as the reason why it happens... It was the first science before there was science... As I was taught, it is about the energy of the person that anya feels. As respect to the Orisha Anya, and the female skin that is used to make the drum, only males should play...

[AmbarFarah]

Una mujer tocando un batá? aunque no sea en una ceremonia, no lo veo bien, y eso que soy mujer!! Yo creo que la smujeres debemos respetar nuestro rol y el de los hombres.

El bailarín estaba como agotado. No bailó casi nada.

[orishadance]

My dear friend is a famous omo aña (initiated into the brotherhood of bata drummers). He says women can touch and play a non-fundamento bata drum, but he frowns upon it. He has known women bata players who've suffered from unexpected accidents/illnesses. In Cuba there's a group of women bata players (do not play the sacred/initiated drums) called Obini Bata. I'm a Santera, and a feminist! But I prefer to respect religious tradition. These days folks have no respect for tradition it seems ...

[onisag]

!!! que lastima que algunas gentes no entiendan que la religion es ansestral y que debe respetarse al 100% los TAMBORES BATA SON SAGRADOS soy oni shango y amo la religion yoruba asi como respeto a mis hermanas religiosas pero una mujer no debe tocar el tambor.....saludos y ashe pa todos...

[SSSS777SSS777]

ke poca madre y que falta de respeto

[martinodde]

yo tambien estoy de acuerdo que las mujeres no toquen el aña esta bien que canten coros pero no que toquen el aña

[coodycoo]

alafia first of all i want to point out to you knowledgeable omorisha and omobata's that a women CAN touch a bata drum.. there is nothing there but a drum,, this is not aña if you remember aña is covered in fabric and decortated with bells.. this a only a show of danza with drummers... she is not playing with a ilu aña, oba aña it is only a drum. women do not play aña since this is a female energy that must be respected by females

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[djmerecumbe]

Yeah, I would very much like to show respect - but I did receive little here and I'm no 'turn-the-other-cheek' kinda-a-guy. / And WHY exactly would you want the tribes in Africa respect you ... while lots of Afro-Cuban Yoruba has imminently diverted from its African roots? // Aren't there more important rules than the trifling difference man-woman... rules which WE may follow WAY MORE THOROUGHLY than MAKE-BELIEVE TRADITIONALISTS!

[POISONdjnumber1]

can someone speaks english among all of you

sango is yoruba from nigeria

where is this video from

becoase they are not from nigeria

nigerians are not allow to document any ritual performance

[toksagbo]

What?where did you get that?I`m from Nigeria I`m afraid you`re wrong.

[ietreus]

Muy de acuerdo contigo!, puede cambiar el mundo ok!, pero que seria de la religion ancestral si no se respetan las tradiciones, estoy de acuerdo en la identidad propia Yoruba Tradicional! Bendiciones!

[djmerecumbe]

Yeah, like I told some of you other 'criticizers': (a) we're living in a world of equal rights for men and women - if you don't, then fucking suit yourself (that is: sit in a puddle and drown) & (b) we've made an effort - studied n published Afro-Cuban rhythms (and got wide-spread Cuban professional acclaim for it - among others: Gregorio Hernandez) ... if you don't cherish it... well: ... see (a)

[djmerecumbe]

Yeah, welcome to the modern world. Respeto es TRATAR algo con respeto (lo que no depende de raza, sexo o lo que sea)... hope that folks like you are in the decline. In that respect: farewell n goodbye.

[hotluvr4u]

this one is a little better

[djmerecumbe]

Thx...

[venus5a]

gracias por contestarme pana y disculpa esa critica:pero esa trae mucha confucion en la religion locumi dicen una cosa y derrepente uno ve otra.

[venus5a]

ESO. noes una falta que una dama toque el aña yo e oido menos si tiene su periodo. segun dicen ? ? ?

[djmerecumbe]

nunca la dejaremos toquar cuando tiene su periodo. gracias.

[djmerecumbe]

Gracias Broder... Nos gusta darle todo lo que sabemos a la genta - pa escuchar, mirar... disfrutar... w w w (punto) merecumbe (punto) com

[ZenYoruba]

Esto es una Mierda, que pinga hace una mujer tocando Bata. Son un sacrilegio y una falta de respeto.

[djmerecumbe]

No, lo siento. El mundo cambia - sin cambio no hubiera una religion lucumí tampoco. Es que a ti te falta una 'alma abierta'. Lo siento.