Skybus principles

[fastkillmmm]

Why not train running on the top of the bridge rather than at the bottom?

[Oaklandgirlpitlover1]

I would not feel safe riding that. What if there is too much weight on that train with high winds blowing? What is the Guarantee that the pendulum wont break and the train falls on the hapless motorists below?

[puketinho]

@Oaklandgirlpitlover1 this is not a new idean, train like this is running since fifty yrs in germany, if you like to see that go in google and ask for "schwebebahn"

[euerhirte]

check: Schwebebahn Wuppertal

[martyr732]

Very nice good , but dont try it in India all the bridges are weak, U can implement ur projects in other countries , u get money and fame lik BLUE BOX...

[rajarambojji]

Thanks Please take it forward any help I appreciate in the name of the humanity please

[SATAKARNI9]

So let me try to understand this. If this is a pendulum type of system, the carriage has to be hoisted at either end for it to travel to the opposite end. But like a pendulum you can't have a semi-circular track, the video shows the Skybus travelling underneath an existing flyover/overbridge. And also what about the speeds, the pendulum reaches it's max at the lowest point, right? Would be great to hear back from you...

[rajarambojji]

@SATAKARNI9 Kindly read all the material posted at atrilab dot com and see the video of National Geo at his site too. All your points are already addressed. Thanks for your interest.

[SATAKARNI9]

@rajarambojji The NatGeo video is in Hindi and not very clear. Do you have an English ver/translation please? Thank you.

[rajarambojji]

@SATAKARNI9 At the same site the main video on Skybus about Hyderabad one, is in English.. please check related videos as you watch the video you are discussing please.

[SATAKARNI9]

@rajarambojji I was thinking perhaps you could use a magnetic drive/superconductivity on the same tracks and achieve even higher speeds.

[martyr732]

@SATAKARNI9 .. MEGLEV will be a good idea , rare earth magents can give good output.and also we can use our over head briges and high tension poles for space.

[SATAKARNI9]

@rajarambojji Hi there I think it would be good to talk over Skype, are you on Skype?

[SATAKARNI9]

@rajarambojji I now watched your video "Energy from gravity..." I imagined you would have to use cables and there you are and that's quite elegant solution. I suppose the cables might need repair/replacement after their life time. But I seem to think of a concurrent idea, would be nice to talk over Skype... I went to Andhra Uni btw.

[SATAKARNI9]

@rajarambojji You know I imagined you'd need a flywheel and you did! But I can imagine the implications are simply amazing for transportation anywhere in the world! It's of the same magnitude of Maglev trains used in Germany but at smaller costs I would think. You know who would take you onboard: the UK govt! But AP is a very good starting place, if the project succeeds in Hyd and the world wows after you, then all of India would go after you. If you'd like any help from me pl leave a msg here.

[sega31098]

But what happens when it just derails?  That could crush people below unlike rail bridges when it justs topples onto the bridge.

[TheMantisTycoon]

It's called a monorail...

[rajarambojji]

@TheMantisTycoon Monorail today is a misnomer. There is no rail. it runs on rubber tired wheels., the carriage above the wheels. Old systems of suspended ones used a steel joist as guide beam like in a crane. But they had very slow speed. Skybus system uses the standard twin rail railway track, it is a rail road, and you can by no stretch of imagination call it a monorail.

[SlyManPX]

Very Practical.

[dbca999]

Mr Rajaram,

why not propose this for a city in Gujarat? Ahmedabad is going for BRTS but Surat/Baroda/Rajkot/Jamnagar could get this. If modi is convinced, he will get it through no matter what comes in the way. I support this technology because for me Indegenization is preferable to imported technology even if it is a little less perfect.

[rajarambojji]

The Skybus rail based system is actually more advanced and improved railway than what our country's lobby is promoting. Indian engineers stll are living in British era of mental slavery! I did propose to Narendra Modi too, that we can provide the Skybus based system much superior and cost effective solution to cities of Gujarat. Obviously IAS lobby is from Delhi is strong to prevent the same. You can quote me and write to local editors too!

[dbca999]

In that case, why not propose this to a business group instead of proposing to state governments. Like proposing to Reliance for example and leave it to businesses to get it implemented by babus. Since Skybus is more cost effective it would interest business groups more too. AFAIK you have approached state governments only but impressing the businesses with relevant contacts could help us get it implemented.

[rajarambojji]

You are absolutely right. I did write to Anil/Mukesh/and Tata Sons. The problem is our industrialists go by what government promotes and accepts.Finally Anil Ambani could not achieve the financial closure- now the entire metro project of Mumbai is again made a government company project. Our people never learn the lessons- Mallya too earlier failed in Bengaluru and Karnataka has now a government company tinkering with the unviable old style metro rail.

[dbca999]

I think conventional metro is too expensive for grassroots people and affordable only for upper middle class for regular travel. It cannot be a success. I fear auto companies do not sabotage public transport projects in India like they did in US.

[dbca999]

Just an idea to keep the technology alive, if you forget the city transport and provide local transport with skybus within privately owned campuses, theme parks and large SEZs you could BY-PASS need for govt permissions. e.g. transport within Navi-Mumbai SEZ which is big in area, transport within steel plants spread over big areas(SAIL, Tata Steel etc), Port Overhead Container handling system. Also try overseas markets too, why just India? Try S.Lanka, B'desh too.

[imagodwarrior]

i think you should try to implement first in some very small towns where there is no chance of a metro or monorail to be implemented by the government.. once (and if) u have established its feasibility, then the technology can be rolled out in other places as well.. i first heard about this technology 6 years ago.. sad to see nothing has come of it yet

[rajarambojji]

I dont own. I have donated my IP rights to Government of India! All of you can decide! But why waste money on obsolete metro rail when you have improved Skybus metro Rail- so long as Newton's laws work on the planet which is proven in Metro rail, the Skybus also is equally acceptable. Why Mumbai should waste thousands of crores?

[sangramkp1]

Mr Rajaram.. This is good innovation by your team. I have a suggestion to this design which can reduce & security risks and concerns.. Why not consider supporting the bus on its top to the below portion of the bridge structure from either sides with an another track (apart from the rack on top).. This will provide supports during wind & will enable high speeds at turns.. also the coaches can be given a look like a bullet train..

[furiouspride]

if conventional railways dont fall off coz of wind, I dont see how this will be affected by the elements. In fact, this is much safer than conventional rails.

[humanproductions]

and its not the only one =) lets colaborate mon

[humanproductions]

exactly mon

way to expensive

unsustainable materials to build and energy inefficient. How is it powered? Solar all over with sym discharge recharge batteries could power maglev, more efficent, two tracks, one for stopping, on for continious flow, constant interlacing of tracks for anyplace get out. Vehichals can travel ontop and below. self assembling techniques not best applied here. must be able to grow from the earth bud, and be powered by its own existance.

[humanproductions]

Nice idea,but too big, heavy and expensive slow to change tracks and needs built stations

[rajarambojji]

It is lighter than regular conventional metro and delivers the same capacity but costs leass than half to one-third. Improved railway, and actually I constructed and ran one experimental system at a cost of US$ 9m per km and dynamic stability was proven to satisfy international safety norms. A 30 second turn round time is possible on the track changing traverser- widely used in ports and assembly lines in the world.