The housekeeper had placed JBR's favorite white blanket upstairs in the dryer and it was in there, then someone removed it to cover her after she died. A Swiss ARmy knife had also been hidden in a cabinet upstairs with sheets. That knife was found down in the basement and had most likely been used to cut the cords used on JB. No intruder could have known where to find either of those items. I doubt even JR knew where they were. But PR did.
@K3Jxo If you are familiar with the statements to police given by Linda Hoffman Pugh the Ramsey's housekeeper, they make it virtually impossible for the killer to have been a random stranger. Besides what random stranger is going to ask ransom in the exact amount of John Ramsey's bonus at Access Graphics for that year. They would have no way of knowing that at all. Everything used in the murder and after came from within that house.
@TakeBackAmerica2012 Not only did the Ramseys have hundreds of guests through their home at various times, they also had a large number of trades people that worked on an extensive remodeling project on the house. And none of the materials used in her killing were found anywhere in the house. Anyways, I do know that JB knew her killer, im saying it wasnt her parents.
That DA Alex Hunter was a real piece of work, and in my view one of the biggest stumbling blocks in the investigation. You don't give suspects access to police reports!! Ever!! This was done deliberately to get their stories straight.
JonBenet and her brother didnt sleep in the same room! JonBenet had her room on second floor,and her parents and burke had their bedrooms on third floor! Why did her parents,let her have her room alone on second floor!! That is sick! The police missed so much evidence that they can never solve this case. Much evidence was destroyed. They should have gone door to door right away and question people in the neighbourhood! But the police didnt do that right away! Its sad that they fucked up!!
From the experts that i've read, they said that the Boulder Police Dept, Boulder DA so greatly botched this case that in their professional opinions, this case was rendered unsolvable.
They didn't want to do a interview right away because they had to get their stories straight... I mean if it was my child I wonder do everything the police said do just so they could find the killer..
you guys..think that the parents are innocent? lol, how blind can you be?
stop watching too much CSI miami and shit. You guys with your fucking DNA all the time. That means nothing..
cause 1. they most likely hired one to do it 2. you obv. cant trust police in that case...so you cant trust the DNA either... 3. of course there DNA was all over the place..cause they lived there.
point 3, just for this idiots, who are saying that there was no DNA linked the Parents to the crime.
@BouncingPurpleCows There's a great book about this investigation, by one of the members of the police involved in the case. Apparently the DA Hunter and Koby stonewalled them constantly and would not grant many of their warrants. The police were trying to salvage the case, but the DA's involved would not accept any evidence that pointed towards the parents as killers.
what a crock of crap, all I've learned from this was that if you have enough money, go to Colorado (or Calif for that matter) if you want to get away with murder.
@anastasia2657 In most states underage children cannot be interviewed without a parent's consent. And judging by the level of cooperation the Ramseys were giving at the time it is no surprise that they barred anyone from talking to the son. I never bought that the boy did it anyway, the tourniquet used to strangle her was expertly made and it would have taken someone very strong to hold her down and strangle her like that. It was a man, there was semen found on her.
@hollyfigueroa1980 It has always been my feeling, my intuitive feeling, that the child was being used by both the parents and the parent's friends, and I even think that there may have been something going on at the party they went to that night. I always thought it was very, very odd that she called over her friends to her home when the child went missing, , and that they all came in moments. How odd. The child may have been dead even before they arrived home from the party that night.
@anastasia2657 Well, I know my mom has to call every living soul she knows when something goes wrong, Patsy might have been the same way. I know the autopsy showed she had been sexually abused and there was semen on her that did not match any of the members of the family. So that alone clears the family at least. However it was always my feeling that it was someone who not only knew the family, but also the house. She ate pineapple before she died and there were no signs of a struggle.
@hollyfigueroa1980 At that point a parent would be intent on finding the child, and speaking to police in orderr to find the child. Why would friends be called at that point? The friends interfered with the investigatory efforts fo the police. The presence of those people in the house created confusion and interfered.. Why would you want friends there at that precise time? To console you? Doesn't make sense
I don't know much about this case but WHY THE HELL wouldn't they give an interview? If they wanted justice for their daughter, wouldn't they want to eliminate themselves as possible suspects so that the police would look in another direction?
no interviews? didn't i just see the ramseys complaining that they should have been interviewed seperately right away. they refuse to be interviewed under such conditions and later we see them complaining about not being interviewed properly. if it was my child i would have been talking to those cops nonstop and not worrying about having my lawyers and doctors around.
BC THE LITTLE BOY SAID SOMETHING N THE WHITES' CONFRONTED THE RAMSEYS BC DURING ALL THIS WAS GOING ON THE BROTHER WENT TO THE WHITES' WHILE THINGS CALMED DOWN! HMMM I THINK THE ALL WERE INVOLVED MAYBE THEIRS A LIFE INSURANCE OR THEY WERE TIRED OF THE LITTLE GIRL!!! POOR BABY MY SON IS HER AGE AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH N I WOULD GO CRAZY IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO HIM I WOULD TEAR APART THE FUCKN HOUSE IF HE GOES MISSING!!!
THIS MURDER WAS PLANNED BC I DONT THINK THE MURDERER HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND WRITE A 2 1/2 PAGE LETTER I MEANS THATS ABOUT 30 MIN TO AN HOUR TO WRITE I MEAN HONESTLY I THINK IT WAS THE PARENTS OR A VERY CLOSE FRIEND OR EVEN BETTER THE BROTHER SINCE HE NEVER GOT UP FROM BED OR MAYBE THE BROTHER WAS PART OF IT OR NEW SOMETHING WHY DIDNT THE BROTHER COME DOWN CRYING AND ASKING FOR HIS SISTER WHY DID HE ACT LIKE IF HE WAS ASLEEP WHEN HE WASNT AND WHY DID THE RAMSEYS FIGHT WITH THE WHITES' IS MAYBE
The police fricked this up from the start. I understand the brutal pain that the ramsey's were in but you don't let tons of people come over to a crime scene and invade, YOU DO NOT TELL ONE OF THE PARENTS TO SEARCH THE HOUSE...the police were not prepared and they messed the whole investigation up, I understand the unbareable pain of loosing a child but, you have to think about the end result, if you want a guilty party you have to be ready and on fire from the start of the investigation.
@chelceealexandra I agree.I think Pasty called her firends to come over to contaminate evidence.I mean when you find out that your kid has just been kidnapped why would you call your friends over?If that was my kid i would have been like a hurricane looking for her.But pasty takes the time to call her friends? i thinks it's odd on her part that she would do that.
the police screwed up from the very start of this case, and did not have the expertise to handle this case. then the rift started between all parties, and by that time any and all evidence that may have helped solve this was gone.
bottom line is that a little 6 yr old was murdered in her own home and 15 years later we still dont know who did it
I heard something that they had there house open to the public for some christmas tour..and whoever killed her learned access to the house by this, and later on broke in through the basement and waited till everyone went to sleep. I know that they were not home on the 25th leaving someone an oppertunity to break in and just wait it out. I could be wrong, I do think the parents are suspicious too, although there is no evidence taken from her body or underwear that is linked to the parents or bro.
@K3Jxo good points but they did find the parents dna on the body but that is circumstantial since they were her parents. which is bullshit because they killed their daughter.
@K3Jxo There was no intruder, too many things make that impossible but there was another person involved in her murder. The Ramsey's covered up after the fact.
@TakeBackAmerica2012 Thats the things with this murder, is you could solve it either way with a theory. There just isnt the evidence EITHER way meaning with intruder or with the parents to convict.
well im know brain box are mistic meg. im only 18 years old , n came across this now but i think her parents had something to do with it. i could be wrong but does any one get gut feelings when you think your right? the dad just creeps me out loads got for bid if he didnt do it but i just think some how things aw not been said what should be
@abbez17 grt someone feels the same way too her father John Ramsey creeps me out and if you watch the videos of The Jonbenet Ramsey Story her father seems to have "missed out or misunderstood" a lot of things.
It has to be somebody that had acess to her in the beauty pagents. Who else would have so much acess to her? But then again, there was a bowl of pineapple on the kitchen table and the police said it had Patsy and Burke's fingerprints on them. Could it be that Patsy and Burke were a part of this? This makes me wonder. If you would like to talk with me about this, message me and we will put together all the information we know and see if we can figure out this case :)
@Bieberbabe9466 i think it could be patsy, burke, n her brother. but then again, its normal for their fingerprints n dna to be found all over the house so its unlikely to be them. i think its likely to be a pedophile intruder who was a family friend of the ramseys
Okay well I think the brother did it. Because maybe he was jealous that his parents were giving his sister all the attention? I think he also did it with a mate because well if she got raped I don't think the brother would of done it and the parents didn't want to tell the police it was their son? That's just my opinion!
The parents seem so calm and relaxed. Like nothing happened. No tears, no grief, nothing. Since JoBenet was "taken", don't you think SOMEBODY would have heard something?? Where was the "break-in" at? Was it a window or door? If it was a family member that she trusted, of course no one would hear anything. She would've gone with them. They said she was sexually assaulted... Was there NO DNA found in that department?? This investigation was so screwed up. Nothing seems to add up here. Idiots. >=/
You know what, I think it's stupid, no matter who did it, that this case is still not solved! Now-a-days, and in the 90's, I remember no one got away with crime because there was always evidence [unless they were rich and famous]. So we can all agree that whoever did it, got away with it.
On a side note, when this happened [I was about 6 years old myself] I thought the brother did it and the parents covered it up so he wouldn't get into trouble lol Imagination.
why, just tell me why , the parents didn't look everywhere in the house, they couldn't be bother to look at the basement ??????? I don't know but for me it sounds too weird !!
@buttsisters maybe once they found the ransom note they stopped searching. They didnt get that far in their search, they found the note and called the police.
This case has really bothered me for several years. As with other things over the past 20 years (especially 911)...There are too many issues that I PERSONALLY have with the Ramsey's. I really have to say that I really think that John hired someone to do this. That "ransom" note is way too shaky to buy into. As far as Patsy is concerned, I don't think she really knew much about how or why, but I believe she knew SOMETHING was going to happen. John's bonus was exactly 118K...why?
@bunnyhead71 why? cause you're a fucking dipshit... that's why. you have "personal issues" with the ramseys do you? Then maybe the BPD should look at YOU.... The ransom note is too "shaky" wtf does that mean? the only 95% chance that it wasn't patsy who wrote it? the 911 call with the ridiculous claim that Burke's voice was on it? oh i see... the BPD and the grand jury cleared these people but YOUR dumbass has all the answers to persecute.. I get it now.. FUCK YOU MORON
@cupcake4206969 - WOW Nancy..It seems like you treat anyone with an opinion like total garbage...Take it easy, remember there are always going to be people who disagree with you, you should learn that first before spouting off at the mouth...I also, nor has anyone else on this page had any "answers"...No one ever claimed to. I think it's truly pathetic that we live in a world where people like you exist. I have my opinions and you, yours. Watch yourself, you never know who your talking to..
@bunnyhead71 "i never know who i'm talking to?" you've been a "police officer of 20 years" eigh? you on the BPD there hotshot? oh and I offended you did I princess? Oh well looks like you can dish it out butt you can't take you fucking hypocrite. You want to call these innocent people murderers of their own child with ZERO proof but when I call you out on being such a fucking moron you want to get all offended! nice... shit, you probably ARE on the BPD, wouldn't surprise me...
@cupcake4206969 - furthermore, as a police officer of 20 years I have never been so insulted on any blog or forum such as this. Like I said, Take it easy with your mouth...
@bunnyhead71 couldn't the killer have overheard about his bonus? Could it have also been about psalms 118 in the bible, which patsy read? I read this somewhere on google. Is this possible?
I still don't understand why the hell anybody wrote that ransom note. And why the $118,000 figure (comparable to Ramsey's bonus) was used. It is THE strangest thing in the case, as far as I'm concerned.
Horrible to think about, but I think they watched and filmed the murder, while a man visitor raped and murdered her for satanic sacrifice and child porn. sickening, but these horrors DO HAPPEN to children ,more than we would like to know.
wasn't the body found wrapped in a blanket? I read somewhere when a mother murders her child, she will do such as wrap the body in a blanket. I also read a mother will leave the body close to home. The child was murdered in the home. Just some observations.
Honestly before anyone draws some conclusion based off of these videos alone, they should read up on all of the evidence. This case is a very strange case; sometimes the evidence leans towards the parents, sometimes it leads to there actually being an intruder. The evidence that leads to there being an intruder is quite interesting and I advise people to actually read up on it and not draw a conclusion just yet from this video alone.
i believe the parents killed her and bed wetting can cause some parents to get upset and i believe her mother was the cause of it all cause she was jealious of her daughter that she was so succesful and talented and honestly if the neighbour heard a scream how come the parents never heard her scream huh and how would a killer not get noticed in their house huh. All the odds are against the parents even if they payed someone to do it they are still at fault for the murder of their daughter.
i GUESS that's not enough for people. Do you know if they tested the DNA against associates of the Ramseys or neighbors who lived near them, at the time of the murder? I think family members should be tested also.
Alright, THANKS. I think someone who was at least acquainted with the Ramseys at one point is the murderer. Hopefully, that person can be brought to justice.
After all that drama they had with the police, I wouldn't do an interview either. That must have been difficult to have a murdered baby and the very people who are supposed to be helping could care less about you or your family. Their only focus is the glory. The Ramsey's were simply another manilla folder in their file.
It was obviously the Ramsey's! Take a minute and consider the facts of the evidence found in the homicide. The ransom note was written on Patsy Ramsey's notebook paper on her sharpie. If that isn't evident enough, how could the intruder have wrote a five page ransom note in the short amount of time they had to pull off the murder? A killer's instinct is this, kill the person as quietly and quickly as possible, then get the hell out of the area. This only leaves of us with the Ramsey parents.
@bahebakyalibnan they juse said before tht they didn't even remember wht they had worn tht night they had to look at pictures..pluse they weren't supposed to ask for their clothes over a yr later?!?
I don't want to say that the parents did or didn't do it, but they don't seem sad. None of their pictures of interviews from that time... Just nothing shows them looking sad, except for maybe at her memorial service. But you didn't really see them then. Medicated for depression or not, I believe that I wouldn't be so strong or doped up to hide my sorrow to the death of my child.
I don't think the Ramsey's did it, but I do think that their lawyers advised them wrong.. they should have cooperated with the police and cleared their names, so the cops could focus on other leads. I think hiding behind their lawyers totally screwed them in the eyes of the media and the public.
if this case occured today they would have had the killer in less than a month, its impossible to get away with anything if you dont study CSI or the criminal justice field or dont know your rights. I still say the parents did it, i mean come on i would be an emotional mess if my kid was murdered, she barely showed emotion i still cry when i see pics of my cat that died years ago, they're great actors they should be in movies
@jessmarie12953 thats not true... when ur child dies u become numb after a while, she could be on anti-depressants, they fuk with ur emotions.. i dont think it was them.
Their is no way parents have done it. The Physic version of the JonBenete Case shows they see a security badge in their vision. I police might have done it, coz if it leaks then it will be world news and sham to the nation.
physic? gimme a break. The things they said they knew were already facts known to everybody in the world. they gave no extra valuable info whatsoever. and no it was not a cop. it was an outsider.
jessmarie12953 You look surprised...that is the reality, sweetheart!!! Police are nowadays relying on psychic to solve lot of the cases these days if you are keeping track of the world.
I think it is very strange that the father or mother did not search the entire house! It said earlier that the police went to checked the room she was found in but the door was stuck. If I had lost my daughter I would rip the house apart! Under beds in cupboards even stupid places like behind the bath facing! You don't know what sick jokes people can play. I find it SO strange he did not check in a simple room. Especially as the door was jammed! That would make me want to get in even more!
You have to remember that up until 1pm in the afternoon on 26th, the family believed that Jonbenet was kidnapped. It was only after a police officer told the father to look around the house for anything missing did he go in the basement and find her. When you have a note saying someone has taken your daughter, you don't expect her to be laying in the basement. It's odd that the police didn't search the room though, looking for evidence of how the kidnapper entered the house.
Well one of my big question marks hangs over 'Why did Patsy Ramsay supposedly get up the following morning (after being out the night before) and put on the same clothes she wore the night before?? Who does that? This was a woman who took pride in her appearance never seen without, etc....usually people have shower/bath to start their day. If she wasn't ready to jump into shower, the logical thing is to throw on a bath robe/dressing gown....unless she didn't get to bed at all????
@shoegalsho i would too but then you have the 'ransom letter' which would make you think your childs been taken so maybe thats why it took them the amount of time before he found her ? i cnt beleive the police tried the door and just walked away when they coulodnt open it? im getting sick of hearing about so many cases of very poor police work. im not suprised the ramseys did their own investigation.
@shoegalsho If you woke up, your daughter was gone, and there was a note saying that she was kidnapped, you would probably assume that she WAS NOT in the house. Not only that, you have a completely normal mind state right now. If you were placed in a situation like they were, your thoughts would be clouded by panic fear ect. and you probably WOULD NOT act as logically as you claim that you would.
@shoegalsho oh would you asshole? well did it ever occur to you that it was the boulder police departments job to do that NOT the distraught parents?! did it ever occur to you that they couldn't imagine in their wildest dreams that their little girl was dead in the basement? HOW would you react if you were in their shoes again? well guess what dipshit? you aren't and luckily for you you probably never will be so get off u high fucking horse and just shit the fuck up. have some fucking empathy
@shoegalsho thats cause u've never been in a situation like this one, yes some people rip the house apart, others can't even talk, or move, u just gotta have the nerves to do something, trust me it's complicated, but for people like u who have never been in such situations, is easy to just sit down and make comments about it, but put yourselves in their shoes, not even the police opened the door, besides they were already thinking about a kidnappinp, and JB was afraid of the dark.
@shoegalsho That is what the majority of parents would do I so agree with you and I've been wondering the same thing since I started following the case
wow the parents totally killed their own daughter. patsy said 2 people know, the killer, and someone who the killer confided in. i believe that maybe it was an accident. maybe jobenet and patsy go into a fight, and she accidentally killed her and tried to cover it up. the father knew where she was, it took him 5 minutes to find her.. i would be going crazy and i would be in complete shock. they are stupid, cold murderers. and they know they did it, they are disgusting.
They totally screwed up the investigation, they didn't take the appropriate measures needed.
Second, I am not saying they did it, but to me personally, there is something about those parents that seems a little off .
I don't want to believe that someone who knew this little girl could do it. We would be the same age today and the fact that she doesn't get to do anything that girls our age do, sickens me.
the dad is guilty or the mom and possibly the brother. mabey the brother was jelous of all the attention she got....! mabey the mom because she was plain out jelous of her beauty and singing and attention she got and how the spotlight wasnt on her and she diddnt cry at her own bolood and fleshes funeral! thats sickining! instead she gave a evil little grin if u look at pictures!possibly the dad cuz he knew exactly where she was in the house. thats my theory!
well that's my point - i am only going along with the kidnapper and ransom story - so if you believe that there was a kidnapper, why would he kidnap her leave the ransom note and then bring her body back home. normally kidnap means you remove the child from her home. so you would more than likely find her body far from home - not stumble upon it in your house.
cont'd. Also, it is a possibility that JonBenet was removed from the house and the kidnapping did take place, then the kidnappers got cold feet, came back and hid her in the basement, forgetting about the note on the stairs then exiting the house. And have these kidnappers ever done this before? or were they novices? I am still going with intruder(s).
dennisa6: also, the level of rigamortis that had set in is another issue to consider. When John Ramsey found JonBenet, she had a certain level of rigamortis and this helps to establish time of death. If she passed away near midnight the level of rigamortis would be diff from a time of death say around 5:00am that morning. Plus, Patsy knew that the cleaning lady would come into the house when they were gone on their trip to clean the sheets anyways, why flip out over that??
my goal is to present the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH on what I currently believe about the JonBenet murder investigation. Based upon all case information/evidence up to today, May 14, 2009, my beliefs are as follows:
Cause of JonBenet's murder: Parent molesting her 60%, Bed wetting issue 30%, Other 10%.
Probability she was killed by a parent 70%, killed by an intruder 30%.
Again, my beliefs are always subject to change. I must be fair and impartial and willing to listen to ALL new input!
its a noble thing to want to present the truth... however we will never know (well that's what it seems like now) what happened to that little girl.
I am one of the ones who suspect it was someone who lived in that house and that the Ramsey's are guilty of many things but first and foremost would be the charge of obstruction of justice.
This case... sickens me. The Ramsey's sicken me.
I encourage you to dig more deeply. JonBenet deserves some investigation, even if nothing rests this.
@dennisa6 I am doing a assignment in college as part of my Forensics CA. It is the first i have ever heard of this case and i was curious to if you have any information that could help me. I would like some Forensic reports or something that i know are real and i cant trust google. you seem to know a lot about it. Could you private message me with some info. Thank you
well MY belief is that if you think that the parents did it then you're a moron. the Boulder PD even admitted that the parents have been cleared so who the fuck are you? you think you know more about it than them?
@KatieM101388@KatieM101388 definition of suspect (the Websters dictionary) "regarded or deserving to be regarded of suspicion" The Boulder Police Department (not to mention the REST OF THE WORLD) treated these innocent people this way for 12 years. They were finally cleared of being SUSPECTS by the BPD in 2008 abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5341559&page=1 But according to a lot of people (morons) they're STILL SUSPECTS.
@dennisa6 What about the unknown male DNA found in her panties that she was wearing? They compared it to family and it was NOT a match.
In my opinion her parents had nothing to do with it, and I think its extremely sad that not only did they lose their daughter but are still to this day being ridiculed and accused of it.
It'a the BPD's fault this case has never been solved. stop persecuting the parents of this murdered child and saying "WELL! If I were them I would have done this!" Just shut the fuck up and get over yourselves!!!! be grateful you've never been in this situation and have some fucking empathy! is was the officers of the BPD who signed on for this ind of job, not the parents!
I would like to repeat somethings I said in a reply to goldengirl67's post in this thread:
My belief's and theories are not etched in stone. To be honest and fair, I must change my beliefs and even give up a pet theory if new case evidence/information requires it. I have to be open minded and willing to listen to new case developments/information/evidence and not dismiss it if it does not agree with my own pet or prized theory. I am not a prosecutor or defender of the Ramsey's, therefore (Con't)
Already supported my theory by mentioning the family's behavior in prior posts. Besides if I had something "concrete" that would be evidence and therefore I'd no longer have a theory.. I'd have a "case."
well foreverjackwild, aren't you classy and well spoken? I'm completely overwhelmed by your obvious genius and tenacity. Considered me intimidated..... (not)
Comment removed
K3Jxo 1 month ago
The housekeeper had placed JBR's favorite white blanket upstairs in the dryer and it was in there, then someone removed it to cover her after she died. A Swiss ARmy knife had also been hidden in a cabinet upstairs with sheets. That knife was found down in the basement and had most likely been used to cut the cords used on JB. No intruder could have known where to find either of those items. I doubt even JR knew where they were. But PR did.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago 2
Comment removed
K3Jxo 1 month ago
@K3Jxo If you are familiar with the statements to police given by Linda Hoffman Pugh the Ramsey's housekeeper, they make it virtually impossible for the killer to have been a random stranger. Besides what random stranger is going to ask ransom in the exact amount of John Ramsey's bonus at Access Graphics for that year. They would have no way of knowing that at all. Everything used in the murder and after came from within that house.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@TakeBackAmerica2012 Not only did the Ramseys have hundreds of guests through their home at various times, they also had a large number of trades people that worked on an extensive remodeling project on the house. And none of the materials used in her killing were found anywhere in the house. Anyways, I do know that JB knew her killer, im saying it wasnt her parents.
K3Jxo 1 month ago
That DA Alex Hunter was a real piece of work, and in my view one of the biggest stumbling blocks in the investigation. You don't give suspects access to police reports!! Ever!! This was done deliberately to get their stories straight.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
the guy with grey hair at 7:15-was he on the Today Show?
dreamworkd 1 month ago
JonBenet and her brother didnt sleep in the same room! JonBenet had her room on second floor,and her parents and burke had their bedrooms on third floor! Why did her parents,let her have her room alone on second floor!! That is sick! The police missed so much evidence that they can never solve this case. Much evidence was destroyed. They should have gone door to door right away and question people in the neighbourhood! But the police didnt do that right away! Its sad that they fucked up!!
lana799 1 month ago
hunter should be ashamed of himself.
leedumett444 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
From the experts that i've read, they said that the Boulder Police Dept, Boulder DA so greatly botched this case that in their professional opinions, this case was rendered unsolvable.
thecolaratlady 2 months ago
Why isn't her brother involved in this?! He was in the house too!
GeorginaO89 2 months ago
@GeorginaO89
Ya thats what I thought maybe he knew something that could help them solve this though I suppose he could have been invollved even at the age of 9
TheMusicalGuineaPig 2 months ago
They didn't want to do a interview right away because they had to get their stories straight... I mean if it was my child I wonder do everything the police said do just so they could find the killer..
HDawn1990 3 months ago in playlist More videos from dennisa6
As much money as the ramsey's had, they could only afford 100,000 for the reward? When Laci Peterson went missing her family put up 500,000.. wtf..
xxcharmed1xx 3 months ago
btw. im not saying the parents did it...im just saying that its ridicolous to conclude that they are innocent, because of the freakin DNA.
They should have been charged. let the jury decide..end of story...
its all about money...so many cases where people were charged for way less...
trustice1 3 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von dennisa6
you guys..think that the parents are innocent? lol, how blind can you be?
stop watching too much CSI miami and shit. You guys with your fucking DNA all the time. That means nothing..
cause 1. they most likely hired one to do it 2. you obv. cant trust police in that case...so you cant trust the DNA either... 3. of course there DNA was all over the place..cause they lived there.
point 3, just for this idiots, who are saying that there was no DNA linked the Parents to the crime.
trustice1 3 months ago
@trustice1 tell them,we are in 2011 and people are still fuckin naive
diamondsweetful 3 months ago
@BouncingPurpleCows There's a great book about this investigation, by one of the members of the police involved in the case. Apparently the DA Hunter and Koby stonewalled them constantly and would not grant many of their warrants. The police were trying to salvage the case, but the DA's involved would not accept any evidence that pointed towards the parents as killers.
papineaun 3 months ago
what a crock of crap, all I've learned from this was that if you have enough money, go to Colorado (or Calif for that matter) if you want to get away with murder.
auntsayree1 4 months ago
idiot people!
RosesareAllie 5 months ago
Everyone knows the Ramsey's were involved except the police and the District Attorney
anastasia2657 6 months ago
I'd love to know what is going on now with this investigation, surely of all the cases they'd like to solve this is surely THE ONE!!
EdensSecret1 6 months ago
Why didn't they interview the son?
anastasia2657 7 months ago
@anastasia2657 In most states underage children cannot be interviewed without a parent's consent. And judging by the level of cooperation the Ramseys were giving at the time it is no surprise that they barred anyone from talking to the son. I never bought that the boy did it anyway, the tourniquet used to strangle her was expertly made and it would have taken someone very strong to hold her down and strangle her like that. It was a man, there was semen found on her.
hollyfigueroa1980 4 months ago
@hollyfigueroa1980 It has always been my feeling, my intuitive feeling, that the child was being used by both the parents and the parent's friends, and I even think that there may have been something going on at the party they went to that night. I always thought it was very, very odd that she called over her friends to her home when the child went missing, , and that they all came in moments. How odd. The child may have been dead even before they arrived home from the party that night.
anastasia2657 4 months ago
@anastasia2657 Well, I know my mom has to call every living soul she knows when something goes wrong, Patsy might have been the same way. I know the autopsy showed she had been sexually abused and there was semen on her that did not match any of the members of the family. So that alone clears the family at least. However it was always my feeling that it was someone who not only knew the family, but also the house. She ate pineapple before she died and there were no signs of a struggle.
hollyfigueroa1980 4 months ago
@hollyfigueroa1980 At that point a parent would be intent on finding the child, and speaking to police in orderr to find the child. Why would friends be called at that point? The friends interfered with the investigatory efforts fo the police. The presence of those people in the house created confusion and interfered.. Why would you want friends there at that precise time? To console you? Doesn't make sense
anastasia2657 4 months ago
I don't know much about this case but WHY THE HELL wouldn't they give an interview? If they wanted justice for their daughter, wouldn't they want to eliminate themselves as possible suspects so that the police would look in another direction?
gracearmstrong239 7 months ago
"It's been approximately 6 months since we last interviewed the Ramseys"
You're the freaking police! Man up and drag their asses in and interview them!
srvfan454 7 months ago 2
Comment removed
srvfan454 7 months ago
Ramseys....not guilty, jesus people read the freakin info
TheTwoJakes73 7 months ago 3
maybe the police were going to update you when you went in for the interview!
kittycatknows 8 months ago
no interviews? didn't i just see the ramseys complaining that they should have been interviewed seperately right away. they refuse to be interviewed under such conditions and later we see them complaining about not being interviewed properly. if it was my child i would have been talking to those cops nonstop and not worrying about having my lawyers and doctors around.
kittycatknows 8 months ago 21
@kittycatknows Then you'd have ended up as did Amanda Knox.
slobomotion 6 months ago
@kittycatknows Exactly!
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
WHY DOSENT THE INVESTIGATORS OR POLICE OR FBI OR WHOEVER IS TAKEN CARE OF THIS CASE MAKES THE RAMSEYS WRITE THE SAME LETTER WITH THEIR LEFT HAND!!!
sandraysergio11 8 months ago
BC THE LITTLE BOY SAID SOMETHING N THE WHITES' CONFRONTED THE RAMSEYS BC DURING ALL THIS WAS GOING ON THE BROTHER WENT TO THE WHITES' WHILE THINGS CALMED DOWN! HMMM I THINK THE ALL WERE INVOLVED MAYBE THEIRS A LIFE INSURANCE OR THEY WERE TIRED OF THE LITTLE GIRL!!! POOR BABY MY SON IS HER AGE AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH N I WOULD GO CRAZY IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO HIM I WOULD TEAR APART THE FUCKN HOUSE IF HE GOES MISSING!!!
sandraysergio11 8 months ago
THIS MURDER WAS PLANNED BC I DONT THINK THE MURDERER HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND WRITE A 2 1/2 PAGE LETTER I MEANS THATS ABOUT 30 MIN TO AN HOUR TO WRITE I MEAN HONESTLY I THINK IT WAS THE PARENTS OR A VERY CLOSE FRIEND OR EVEN BETTER THE BROTHER SINCE HE NEVER GOT UP FROM BED OR MAYBE THE BROTHER WAS PART OF IT OR NEW SOMETHING WHY DIDNT THE BROTHER COME DOWN CRYING AND ASKING FOR HIS SISTER WHY DID HE ACT LIKE IF HE WAS ASLEEP WHEN HE WASNT AND WHY DID THE RAMSEYS FIGHT WITH THE WHITES' IS MAYBE
sandraysergio11 8 months ago
The police fricked this up from the start. I understand the brutal pain that the ramsey's were in but you don't let tons of people come over to a crime scene and invade, YOU DO NOT TELL ONE OF THE PARENTS TO SEARCH THE HOUSE...the police were not prepared and they messed the whole investigation up, I understand the unbareable pain of loosing a child but, you have to think about the end result, if you want a guilty party you have to be ready and on fire from the start of the investigation.
chelceealexandra 8 months ago
@chelceealexandra I agree.I think Pasty called her firends to come over to contaminate evidence.I mean when you find out that your kid has just been kidnapped why would you call your friends over?If that was my kid i would have been like a hurricane looking for her.But pasty takes the time to call her friends? i thinks it's odd on her part that she would do that.
8luvbug 7 months ago
the police screwed up from the very start of this case, and did not have the expertise to handle this case. then the rift started between all parties, and by that time any and all evidence that may have helped solve this was gone.
bottom line is that a little 6 yr old was murdered in her own home and 15 years later we still dont know who did it
MsRockingchick 8 months ago
I'm still convinced the parents did something to her.
Laylawantsthisname 8 months ago 3
I heard something that they had there house open to the public for some christmas tour..and whoever killed her learned access to the house by this, and later on broke in through the basement and waited till everyone went to sleep. I know that they were not home on the 25th leaving someone an oppertunity to break in and just wait it out. I could be wrong, I do think the parents are suspicious too, although there is no evidence taken from her body or underwear that is linked to the parents or bro.
K3Jxo 9 months ago 10
@K3Jxo good points but they did find the parents dna on the body but that is circumstantial since they were her parents. which is bullshit because they killed their daughter.
zruble1 2 months ago
@K3Jxo There was no intruder, too many things make that impossible but there was another person involved in her murder. The Ramsey's covered up after the fact.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
@TakeBackAmerica2012 Thats the things with this murder, is you could solve it either way with a theory. There just isnt the evidence EITHER way meaning with intruder or with the parents to convict.
K3Jxo 1 month ago
well im know brain box are mistic meg. im only 18 years old , n came across this now but i think her parents had something to do with it. i could be wrong but does any one get gut feelings when you think your right? the dad just creeps me out loads got for bid if he didnt do it but i just think some how things aw not been said what should be
abbez17 10 months ago
Comment removed
lediaries 9 months ago
@abbez17 grt someone feels the same way too her father John Ramsey creeps me out and if you watch the videos of The Jonbenet Ramsey Story her father seems to have "missed out or misunderstood" a lot of things.
lediaries 9 months ago
I find it weird that the parents refused to cooperate and be interviewed :S I mean....why weren't they charged with obstruction of justice?
unevercalled 10 months ago
It has to be somebody that had acess to her in the beauty pagents. Who else would have so much acess to her? But then again, there was a bowl of pineapple on the kitchen table and the police said it had Patsy and Burke's fingerprints on them. Could it be that Patsy and Burke were a part of this? This makes me wonder. If you would like to talk with me about this, message me and we will put together all the information we know and see if we can figure out this case :)
Bieberbabe9466 10 months ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
@Bieberbabe9466 i have a strange feeling that the brother did this..and the parents covered it up
Midnightryder7 10 months ago
@Bieberbabe9466 i think it could be patsy, burke, n her brother. but then again, its normal for their fingerprints n dna to be found all over the house so its unlikely to be them. i think its likely to be a pedophile intruder who was a family friend of the ramseys
POPsongsADDICT 3 months ago
@POPsongsADDICT her brother?, the dude was a child,and they slept in the same room,
diamondsweetful 3 months ago
Okay well I think the brother did it. Because maybe he was jealous that his parents were giving his sister all the attention? I think he also did it with a mate because well if she got raped I don't think the brother would of done it and the parents didn't want to tell the police it was their son? That's just my opinion!
funnypeople1913 10 months ago
The parents seem so calm and relaxed. Like nothing happened. No tears, no grief, nothing. Since JoBenet was "taken", don't you think SOMEBODY would have heard something?? Where was the "break-in" at? Was it a window or door? If it was a family member that she trusted, of course no one would hear anything. She would've gone with them. They said she was sexually assaulted... Was there NO DNA found in that department?? This investigation was so screwed up. Nothing seems to add up here. Idiots. >=/
MelonBerry93 10 months ago 2
Bill McReynolds and Michael Helgoth really interest me. One or both knew something and both are dead now.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
You know what, I think it's stupid, no matter who did it, that this case is still not solved! Now-a-days, and in the 90's, I remember no one got away with crime because there was always evidence [unless they were rich and famous]. So we can all agree that whoever did it, got away with it.
On a side note, when this happened [I was about 6 years old myself] I thought the brother did it and the parents covered it up so he wouldn't get into trouble lol Imagination.
NeonGreenFairyJedi 11 months ago
0:56 is that a picture of jonbenet in the background?
mrjennibieberspinach 11 months ago
@mrjennibieberspinach Yes.
immortalxdespair 11 months ago
why, just tell me why , the parents didn't look everywhere in the house, they couldn't be bother to look at the basement ??????? I don't know but for me it sounds too weird !!
buttsisters 11 months ago 2
@buttsisters maybe once they found the ransom note they stopped searching. They didnt get that far in their search, they found the note and called the police.
JCMySoulsBoast 11 months ago
This case has really bothered me for several years. As with other things over the past 20 years (especially 911)...There are too many issues that I PERSONALLY have with the Ramsey's. I really have to say that I really think that John hired someone to do this. That "ransom" note is way too shaky to buy into. As far as Patsy is concerned, I don't think she really knew much about how or why, but I believe she knew SOMETHING was going to happen. John's bonus was exactly 118K...why?
bunnyhead71 11 months ago
@bunnyhead71 why? cause you're a fucking dipshit... that's why. you have "personal issues" with the ramseys do you? Then maybe the BPD should look at YOU.... The ransom note is too "shaky" wtf does that mean? the only 95% chance that it wasn't patsy who wrote it? the 911 call with the ridiculous claim that Burke's voice was on it? oh i see... the BPD and the grand jury cleared these people but YOUR dumbass has all the answers to persecute.. I get it now.. FUCK YOU MORON
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@cupcake4206969 - WOW Nancy..It seems like you treat anyone with an opinion like total garbage...Take it easy, remember there are always going to be people who disagree with you, you should learn that first before spouting off at the mouth...I also, nor has anyone else on this page had any "answers"...No one ever claimed to. I think it's truly pathetic that we live in a world where people like you exist. I have my opinions and you, yours. Watch yourself, you never know who your talking to..
bunnyhead71 11 months ago
@bunnyhead71 "i never know who i'm talking to?" you've been a "police officer of 20 years" eigh? you on the BPD there hotshot? oh and I offended you did I princess? Oh well looks like you can dish it out butt you can't take you fucking hypocrite. You want to call these innocent people murderers of their own child with ZERO proof but when I call you out on being such a fucking moron you want to get all offended! nice... shit, you probably ARE on the BPD, wouldn't surprise me...
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@cupcake4206969 - furthermore, as a police officer of 20 years I have never been so insulted on any blog or forum such as this. Like I said, Take it easy with your mouth...
bunnyhead71 11 months ago
@bunnyhead71 take it easy with my mouth? well how bout you suck the shit out of my ass BITCH! How do you like that one? :)
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@bunnyhead71 couldn't the killer have overheard about his bonus? Could it have also been about psalms 118 in the bible, which patsy read? I read this somewhere on google. Is this possible?
3333sweetie 10 months ago
I still don't understand why the hell anybody wrote that ransom note. And why the $118,000 figure (comparable to Ramsey's bonus) was used. It is THE strangest thing in the case, as far as I'm concerned.
ThirstyEye 1 year ago
Horrible to think about, but I think they watched and filmed the murder, while a man visitor raped and murdered her for satanic sacrifice and child porn. sickening, but these horrors DO HAPPEN to children ,more than we would like to know.
fabiantr100 1 year ago
@fabiantr100 Nostalgic for some mid-80s suburban satanism hysteria, eh?
ThirstyEye 1 year ago
wasn't the body found wrapped in a blanket? I read somewhere when a mother murders her child, she will do such as wrap the body in a blanket. I also read a mother will leave the body close to home. The child was murdered in the home. Just some observations.
fabiantr100 1 year ago
Honestly before anyone draws some conclusion based off of these videos alone, they should read up on all of the evidence. This case is a very strange case; sometimes the evidence leans towards the parents, sometimes it leads to there actually being an intruder. The evidence that leads to there being an intruder is quite interesting and I advise people to actually read up on it and not draw a conclusion just yet from this video alone.
AkedaGB 1 year ago
ramsay never want to give a interview?
if there innocent why not act innocent?
tinkerbellxx101 1 year ago
Here, let's check this room! What's this, the door is jammed? Oh well, nothing to see here, let's check somwhere else!
christopherspeedy 1 year ago
i believe the parents killed her and bed wetting can cause some parents to get upset and i believe her mother was the cause of it all cause she was jealious of her daughter that she was so succesful and talented and honestly if the neighbour heard a scream how come the parents never heard her scream huh and how would a killer not get noticed in their house huh. All the odds are against the parents even if they payed someone to do it they are still at fault for the murder of their daughter.
alieshamegaawesomene 1 year ago 3
f#$k the cops i want my tax money back
THE1V 1 year ago
why was the door jammed? if they were innocent why refuse an interview????
xkaishax 1 year ago 12
@xkaishax th cop will frame you, you fool.
seka1986 6 months ago
why was the door jammed?
xkaishax 1 year ago 3
dennisa6 yes i believe the ramsays did it
leedumett444 1 year ago
think the ramseys did it dont buy the intruder theory the ransom note was a diversion patsy written the note
leedumett444 1 year ago
Omg people who think the parents are guilty, don't you watch the case? The parents were cleared back in I think 2008 dna says an UNKOWN MALE DID IT!
CandieKanePrince 1 year ago 3
i GUESS that's not enough for people. Do you know if they tested the DNA against associates of the Ramseys or neighbors who lived near them, at the time of the murder? I think family members should be tested also.
I think this is such a sad, haunting case.
bobfryfish 1 year ago
@bobfryfish Well I do know they tested all the family members and friends but idk about the neighbors.
CandieKanePrince 1 year ago
Alright, THANKS. I think someone who was at least acquainted with the Ramseys at one point is the murderer. Hopefully, that person can be brought to justice.
bobfryfish 1 year ago
After all that drama they had with the police, I wouldn't do an interview either. That must have been difficult to have a murdered baby and the very people who are supposed to be helping could care less about you or your family. Their only focus is the glory. The Ramsey's were simply another manilla folder in their file.
Mishj6 1 year ago 2
It was obviously the Ramsey's! Take a minute and consider the facts of the evidence found in the homicide. The ransom note was written on Patsy Ramsey's notebook paper on her sharpie. If that isn't evident enough, how could the intruder have wrote a five page ransom note in the short amount of time they had to pull off the murder? A killer's instinct is this, kill the person as quietly and quickly as possible, then get the hell out of the area. This only leaves of us with the Ramsey parents.
tdurk312 1 year ago
my thoughts: either- santa claus cuz he said he was going to pay her a "secret visit" or an intruder who broke in why they were at the christmas party
i truly beleive 100% that it was not john or patsy ramsey
TheAlexisfaith 1 year ago
her death was a form of sacrifice!!, by the parents!!. there was never an intruder
34CATlover 1 year ago
was everybody just a fucking idiot or what
Lboob 1 year ago
they didnt ask for the parents clothes.......until over a year later.......... they could have cleared all the evidence by that time........
bahebakyalibnan 1 year ago
@bahebakyalibnan they juse said before tht they didn't even remember wht they had worn tht night they had to look at pictures..pluse they weren't supposed to ask for their clothes over a yr later?!?
xjonbenet96x 1 year ago
It's stupid that all these people turned a Childs murder into a fight with the police. I'm pretty sure they forgot what the main issue was
questions117 1 year ago
I can't imagine why or how parents could murder their own child... Why? And what kind of person could actually do that to their daughter
questions117 1 year ago
i think the father did it... sounds terrible but thats how i felt then and now
ajmsix11 1 year ago
I don't want to say that the parents did or didn't do it, but they don't seem sad. None of their pictures of interviews from that time... Just nothing shows them looking sad, except for maybe at her memorial service. But you didn't really see them then. Medicated for depression or not, I believe that I wouldn't be so strong or doped up to hide my sorrow to the death of my child.
xXxSiyuxXx 1 year ago
I don't think the Ramsey's did it, but I do think that their lawyers advised them wrong.. they should have cooperated with the police and cleared their names, so the cops could focus on other leads. I think hiding behind their lawyers totally screwed them in the eyes of the media and the public.
DareDarlington 2 years ago
if this case occured today they would have had the killer in less than a month, its impossible to get away with anything if you dont study CSI or the criminal justice field or dont know your rights. I still say the parents did it, i mean come on i would be an emotional mess if my kid was murdered, she barely showed emotion i still cry when i see pics of my cat that died years ago, they're great actors they should be in movies
jessmarie12953 2 years ago
@jessmarie12953 thats not true... when ur child dies u become numb after a while, she could be on anti-depressants, they fuk with ur emotions.. i dont think it was them.
pussycatdoll020 2 years ago
The son, Burke was interviewed and was even questioned at the grand jury...
Mandabear1234 2 years ago
The Boulder police acted like a bunch of keystone cops.
atlast23 2 years ago
Their is no way parents have done it. The Physic version of the JonBenete Case shows they see a security badge in their vision. I police might have done it, coz if it leaks then it will be world news and sham to the nation.
samiaislam 2 years ago
physic? gimme a break. The things they said they knew were already facts known to everybody in the world. they gave no extra valuable info whatsoever. and no it was not a cop. it was an outsider.
Alexmg123 2 years ago 14
@samiaislam a psychic? lol come back to reality please ok
jessmarie12953 2 years ago
Comment removed
samiaislam 2 years ago
jessmarie12953 You look surprised...that is the reality, sweetheart!!! Police are nowadays relying on psychic to solve lot of the cases these days if you are keeping track of the world.
samiaislam 2 years ago
karl pilkington?
imnevermakingavideo 1 year ago
police are covering up shit.
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
i agree. Check my comment.
samiaislam 2 years ago
what about the duke kids accused of rape. if you are innocent you should thank your lucky stars if you can hire top notch attorneys and go for it
sunlover518 2 years ago
what about the son? why has he never been questioned, given a lie detector, never asked to appear on such a show?
arod2222 2 years ago
he was nine.
Number1Gosselinfan28 2 years ago
do you really think a 9 year old kid could commit one of the most confusing murders of all time?
Number1Gosselinfan28 2 years ago 2
I think it is very strange that the father or mother did not search the entire house! It said earlier that the police went to checked the room she was found in but the door was stuck. If I had lost my daughter I would rip the house apart! Under beds in cupboards even stupid places like behind the bath facing! You don't know what sick jokes people can play. I find it SO strange he did not check in a simple room. Especially as the door was jammed! That would make me want to get in even more!
shoegalsho 2 years ago 70
You have to remember that up until 1pm in the afternoon on 26th, the family believed that Jonbenet was kidnapped. It was only after a police officer told the father to look around the house for anything missing did he go in the basement and find her. When you have a note saying someone has taken your daughter, you don't expect her to be laying in the basement. It's odd that the police didn't search the room though, looking for evidence of how the kidnapper entered the house.
titanic468 2 years ago 4
Well one of my big question marks hangs over 'Why did Patsy Ramsay supposedly get up the following morning (after being out the night before) and put on the same clothes she wore the night before?? Who does that? This was a woman who took pride in her appearance never seen without, etc....usually people have shower/bath to start their day. If she wasn't ready to jump into shower, the logical thing is to throw on a bath robe/dressing gown....unless she didn't get to bed at all????
petrulengo 2 years ago 4
The Devil hides in the details.
vehicularmanslover 2 years ago
@shoegalsho i would too but then you have the 'ransom letter' which would make you think your childs been taken so maybe thats why it took them the amount of time before he found her ? i cnt beleive the police tried the door and just walked away when they coulodnt open it? im getting sick of hearing about so many cases of very poor police work. im not suprised the ramseys did their own investigation.
1lilleth 1 year ago
@shoegalsho If you woke up, your daughter was gone, and there was a note saying that she was kidnapped, you would probably assume that she WAS NOT in the house. Not only that, you have a completely normal mind state right now. If you were placed in a situation like they were, your thoughts would be clouded by panic fear ect. and you probably WOULD NOT act as logically as you claim that you would.
lilgurlfresh 1 year ago
@shoegalsho oh would you asshole? well did it ever occur to you that it was the boulder police departments job to do that NOT the distraught parents?! did it ever occur to you that they couldn't imagine in their wildest dreams that their little girl was dead in the basement? HOW would you react if you were in their shoes again? well guess what dipshit? you aren't and luckily for you you probably never will be so get off u high fucking horse and just shit the fuck up. have some fucking empathy
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@shoegalsho thats cause u've never been in a situation like this one, yes some people rip the house apart, others can't even talk, or move, u just gotta have the nerves to do something, trust me it's complicated, but for people like u who have never been in such situations, is easy to just sit down and make comments about it, but put yourselves in their shoes, not even the police opened the door, besides they were already thinking about a kidnappinp, and JB was afraid of the dark.
rbd7 10 months ago
@shoegalsho my feeling is the brother did it and the parents covered it up
Midnightryder7 10 months ago 2
@Midnightryder7
I agree !!!
xxuokexx 8 months ago
@shoegalsho That is what the majority of parents would do I so agree with you and I've been wondering the same thing since I started following the case
Blondecutie00 9 months ago
@shoegalsho
She was found in the basement, which did not have many things in it.
The first thing the mom did after looking at the ransom note was yell out to her husband and run to Jonbenets room.
zoeykillah 9 months ago
stop saying it was an accident because she was also raped...Whoever did it, i hope the murderer will burn in hell.
formynieces 2 years ago
She wasn't raped as such
She was molested with a paint brush belonging to her mother:(
R.I.P darling
ShetlandPonieRawr 2 years ago 2
wow the parents totally killed their own daughter. patsy said 2 people know, the killer, and someone who the killer confided in. i believe that maybe it was an accident. maybe jobenet and patsy go into a fight, and she accidentally killed her and tried to cover it up. the father knew where she was, it took him 5 minutes to find her.. i would be going crazy and i would be in complete shock. they are stupid, cold murderers. and they know they did it, they are disgusting.
sourdoll27 2 years ago
First off, the cops were idiots from the start.
They totally screwed up the investigation, they didn't take the appropriate measures needed.
Second, I am not saying they did it, but to me personally, there is something about those parents that seems a little off .
I don't want to believe that someone who knew this little girl could do it. We would be the same age today and the fact that she doesn't get to do anything that girls our age do, sickens me.
JenAnn08 2 years ago 2
the dad is guilty or the mom and possibly the brother. mabey the brother was jelous of all the attention she got....! mabey the mom because she was plain out jelous of her beauty and singing and attention she got and how the spotlight wasnt on her and she diddnt cry at her own bolood and fleshes funeral! thats sickining! instead she gave a evil little grin if u look at pictures!possibly the dad cuz he knew exactly where she was in the house. thats my theory!
sweetsarah1094 2 years ago
The parents are guilty.
End of story.
WritingJenny73070 2 years ago
when the dad is asked why he didn't give an interview @ 6:09, Notice the sweat on his face.
jjosee15 2 years ago
oh please. what kidnapper you know leaves a ransom note that day and comes back to the crime scene and brings back the dead body? 2wat
29martian 2 years ago
Who the hell said the dead body was brought back ??
foreverjackwild 2 years ago
well that's my point - i am only going along with the kidnapper and ransom story - so if you believe that there was a kidnapper, why would he kidnap her leave the ransom note and then bring her body back home. normally kidnap means you remove the child from her home. so you would more than likely find her body far from home - not stumble upon it in your house.
29martian 2 years ago
alex hunter fucked this investigation up..... he didnt wanna believe that Patsy did it so he screwed it
lycrahoofie 2 years ago
cont'd. Also, it is a possibility that JonBenet was removed from the house and the kidnapping did take place, then the kidnappers got cold feet, came back and hid her in the basement, forgetting about the note on the stairs then exiting the house. And have these kidnappers ever done this before? or were they novices? I am still going with intruder(s).
goldengirl67 2 years ago
No reasonable person denies giving full disclosure to the police/authorities when trying to find out who MURDERED a family member or friend.
They didn't want the killer caught. If they did they wouldn't have been so obnoxious.
WritingJenny73070 2 years ago
dennisa6: also, the level of rigamortis that had set in is another issue to consider. When John Ramsey found JonBenet, she had a certain level of rigamortis and this helps to establish time of death. If she passed away near midnight the level of rigamortis would be diff from a time of death say around 5:00am that morning. Plus, Patsy knew that the cleaning lady would come into the house when they were gone on their trip to clean the sheets anyways, why flip out over that??
goldengirl67 2 years ago
my goal is to present the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH on what I currently believe about the JonBenet murder investigation. Based upon all case information/evidence up to today, May 14, 2009, my beliefs are as follows:
Cause of JonBenet's murder: Parent molesting her 60%, Bed wetting issue 30%, Other 10%.
Probability she was killed by a parent 70%, killed by an intruder 30%.
Again, my beliefs are always subject to change. I must be fair and impartial and willing to listen to ALL new input!
dennisa6 2 years ago 5
its a noble thing to want to present the truth... however we will never know (well that's what it seems like now) what happened to that little girl.
I am one of the ones who suspect it was someone who lived in that house and that the Ramsey's are guilty of many things but first and foremost would be the charge of obstruction of justice.
This case... sickens me. The Ramsey's sicken me.
I encourage you to dig more deeply. JonBenet deserves some investigation, even if nothing rests this.
WritingJenny73070 2 years ago 3
@dennisa6 I am doing a assignment in college as part of my Forensics CA. It is the first i have ever heard of this case and i was curious to if you have any information that could help me. I would like some Forensic reports or something that i know are real and i cant trust google. you seem to know a lot about it. Could you private message me with some info. Thank you
dannythefreerunner 1 year ago
@dennisa6 I agree. Thanks for posting. Let's hope they find Maddie's murderer too.
megan8madonna 1 year ago
well MY belief is that if you think that the parents did it then you're a moron. the Boulder PD even admitted that the parents have been cleared so who the fuck are you? you think you know more about it than them?
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 Thank you!!
lilgurlfresh 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 i dont see how the parents could be cleared when they were never identified as suspects. Only "under the umbrella of suspicion.
KatieM101388 11 months ago
@KatieM101388
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@KatieM101388 @KatieM101388 definition of suspect (the Websters dictionary) "regarded or deserving to be regarded of suspicion" The Boulder Police Department (not to mention the REST OF THE WORLD) treated these innocent people this way for 12 years. They were finally cleared of being SUSPECTS by the BPD in 2008 abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5341559&page=1 But according to a lot of people (morons) they're STILL SUSPECTS.
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@dennisa6 What about the unknown male DNA found in her panties that she was wearing? They compared it to family and it was NOT a match.
In my opinion her parents had nothing to do with it, and I think its extremely sad that not only did they lose their daughter but are still to this day being ridiculed and accused of it.
lilgurlfresh 1 year ago
@dennisa6 what you believe has NOTHING to do with the truth. but thanks for sharing moron
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
It'a the BPD's fault this case has never been solved. stop persecuting the parents of this murdered child and saying "WELL! If I were them I would have done this!" Just shut the fuck up and get over yourselves!!!! be grateful you've never been in this situation and have some fucking empathy! is was the officers of the BPD who signed on for this ind of job, not the parents!
cupcake4206969 11 months ago
@dennisa These kinds of cases really bring out the looney's.
KaiCherieAmour 11 months ago
I would like to repeat somethings I said in a reply to goldengirl67's post in this thread:
My belief's and theories are not etched in stone. To be honest and fair, I must change my beliefs and even give up a pet theory if new case evidence/information requires it. I have to be open minded and willing to listen to new case developments/information/evidence and not dismiss it if it does not agree with my own pet or prized theory. I am not a prosecutor or defender of the Ramsey's, therefore (Con't)
dennisa6 2 years ago
@dennisa6 pardon my ignorance, but why would bedwetting kill jonbenet?????
Cheerleadersrock13 1 year ago
the fact that she was covered and the knowledge of the house by the murderer suggests someone who knew the victim and her family very well.
antiiraqwar 2 years ago
like who? Santa Clause?
*cough* her murderer was someone in her family.
WritingJenny73070 2 years ago
Support your theory with something concrete.
goldengirl67 2 years ago 2
Already supported my theory by mentioning the family's behavior in prior posts. Besides if I had something "concrete" that would be evidence and therefore I'd no longer have a theory.. I'd have a "case."
WritingJenny73070 2 years ago 2
Well, your "theory" blows ass.
foreverjackwild 2 years ago
well foreverjackwild, aren't you classy and well spoken? I'm completely overwhelmed by your obvious genius and tenacity. Considered me intimidated..... (not)
Piss off Jack.
WritingJenny73070 2 years ago 2
I have just uploaded Part 6: CASE REOPENED
dennisa6 2 years ago
Alex Hunter is a great liar. That is one problem with the investigation. He did not want to go up against the Ramsey's lawyers.
rwd8141 2 years ago
The parents definitiely did it. Surely something wrong with the way they behaved towards police. Incest an issue.
AndreaYNWA 2 years ago
SEE "BREAKING NEWS"
That I just posted in the comments to Part 1
dennisa6 3 years ago