Obama's Healthcare Compromise?

[SuperCaliforniaGuy]

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10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits. How retarded is that? Robbing social security and medicare to pay for healthcare. How stupid is that? You gotta be a moron to believe that this bill is deficit-neutral. Focus on the economy, stupid, not health care.

[supermatic9]

OH Sh~t!! no option??.. he caved in to the republicans and lirberman.. KILL THE BILL.. go back to the drawing board and re-instate the public option.. say NO to mandatory privet insurance! say NO to insurance police..

this is not insurance reform.. this is insurance expansion with added Jail Time!! . . Fu-k This Bill and the Republicans.. Reform Congress these Pigs are bribed by insurance .. Lirberman is a Blue dog Pig! . Picket signs-TShirts= Say No To Joe

I protest this bill

[hadenufnow]

Kill the 3000 pg Illegal HC TAX & JAIL Tfojan Horse Mandate Bill nobody wants..

Kill the bill..

Vote em out..

nobody wants it..

[supermatic9]

You need to ask yourself.. How many Canadians travel to the US to seek affordable health-care ? how many Canadians face bankruptcy over healthcare costs?

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[supermatic9]

You gotta love it

Kucinich Slams Right-Wing Healthcare "Expert"

[charlesfloyb]

micsc50, you can still buy your health care and have it between you and your doctor. The Obama plan doesn't change anything for you. The Obama plan has a public OPTION (that means choice). You don't have to take the public option. You can keep your health insurance just as it is. Nobody is trampeling your rights, your dissillusioned. You aren't even paying a dime for this new health care unless you're making over $250,000/year. So, you complain yet you don't pay anything.

[urantivirus]

I don't watch youtube to watch commercials. Period. One star. I can find this video uploaded by somone not making as much money as CBS. Who will do it for free with no commercials.

[TheUnpromisedOne]

Fuck Barack Obama, FUCK BIG PHARMA!!!, who Obama is in talks with as we speak, from what I've heard, and fuck his government healthcare bullshit. Every time I hear ANYTHING regarding government healthcare, be it from supporters or people who hate it, I have to control myself to keep from punching something.

Sure, our current healthcare system is a joke, and it needs to be reformed, nobody is arguing that point, but having the government decide on healthcare is the LAST thing we want happening.

[urantivirus]

Your a joke buddy. Go punch a wall. I live in Canada. And a government run health care system works. It keeps the majority of the people healthy and happy. Just because greedy idiots like yourself don't like the idea because you're brainwashed and uninformed. Is no reason for people in America not to recieve treatment with little cost. I just thought I'd get you going. You make it too hard to resist.

[kultorthedestroyer]

Why is noone talking about the law suits that insurance companies have to cover. I just talked to a lady today that is suing the local hospital for 8 mil. This is not a new concept. So who has to pay out for that? The hospital? not likely they don't have that kind of cash. Investors? Nope they are a third party with no legal obligations. The insurance comp. flits the bill. Unfortunately the bill gets passed on.  The comp. can't absorb that kind of loss so up go rates. Where is personal

[kultorthedestroyer]

responsibility? How is mil reasonable for an honest mistake. Even if it was intentional how does that number equal fairness?

[HowDaddyIsDoing]

good to know that i may never be insured all because a bunch of people who are disagreeing with the health bill for the sake of disagreeing with something (i have a lot of pre-existing conditions). you all are ruining the lives of so many people right now. just give Obama's idea a chance BEFORE you criticize it. why can't you just let it run its course?

[TVAboy1]

Hey!!... where's his mustache?

[AbuGrabIt]

We Republicans have a new nickname that has been circulating due to Obama's "wee wee'd up" comment and that is President Wee Wee. Hail to Chief Wee Wee!!!! I love it!!!!

[AbuGrabIt]

Go President Wee Wee!!

[freedomthinker7]

People have to be paid and bussed in to support the coward Obama. Kudlow said the Democrats are lying about everything in this health care reform. Obama has lied about everything. More wars, more missiles, huge deficit, 9000 earmarks and now an Obamacare extermination program. 50 million new patients and no new doctors. And Obama attacks the elderly with death panels and rationing.

[AlNouveau]

We have the rest of the industrialized world as a model. There are many different ways to insure everyone has access to health care. But leaving the solution to the insurance industry is no solution. The operate in a for profit environment. Paying for your treatment is never in their best financial interest, ever. This is America. It is our shame that we do not provide health care for all our own people. You don't want a public option? Regulate insurance companies as if they were utilities.

[TOMP66666]

No surprise that California, one of the richest but most liberal state, especially in fiscal term, is on the edge of bankruptcy. Now Californian socialist model with its highest tax rate, strictest enviromental protection rules, and very generous welfare and healthcare systems is copied by Obama administration with its ambitious, costly health care reform of one trillion dollars for everybody including 12 milliions illegal immigrants who would be naturalized under Obama immigration reform.

[rebel985]

Let me get this straight. Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it and whose members will be exempt from it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is broke. What could possibly go wrong?

[huskie767]

Obama is pushing so-called heath care reform saying the US is the richest country in the world. A few months ago he said the US is "out of money". Which is it? Also, why is Michelle Obama flying anywhere she wants on Air Force? Just flew to the Grand Canyon..... I wonder is she'll continue to waste tax payer money as the economy continues to implode. Expect the DOW to resume it's decent in mid-September . The Dow should reach a new low by Feb 2010. Thanks Obama and the Democrats.

[logansGT]

Thanks to the Obamessiah, health care will resemble the Motor Vehicle Office with bed pans.

[thehellhound1]

i hate obama i hate what he is who he is what he stands for and for what he is doin to this country and i DO NOT !!!consider him my president i see him as a huge failure

[thehellhound1]

lol democrats crack me up

[dannyo07]

this is a fucking joke

OBAMA IS A PUSSY PUPPET

and i voted for him

we are fucking doomed

KILL THE WEALTHY

[thehellhound1]

i knew from the very start that he would be a doomsday device

[UrinationNation]

You know what's honest? MOST PEOPLE BY FAR, want universal health care, the fact that the democrats couldn't agree between each other is a joke, they couldn't agree because the health care lobbies sent them cakes with gold bricks in them and scandalous photos of them with mistresses, it's a joke, the only thing they had to do was listen to the their constituency, and over 60% said we want universal health care not some government run insurance clusterfox, but they don't represent us!!!

[nyckillaheat]

its funny how republicans don't have a real plan/ its funny how bush put us all in debt/ its funny how Palin is the leader of the republican party/ its funny how most people use fear to divide us/ its funny how most people watch fox news...... Hmmmm

lol

[czuzak]

medicare works and is more efficient? you make me laugh

[jcpillars]

medicare has a higher satisfaction rating among patients then every insurance company.

medicare spends 97% of every dollar coming in, on pushing it back to patient care and medical bills

average insurance company spends 79% of every dollar on pushing it back to patient care

for only insuring people who are over 65 (the poorest and sickest among us) they do a pretty decent job

[czuzak]

the more the government gets involved the more it screws things up

[thehellhound1]

obama is a lying sack of shit who does not know how to rum a country and that is the truth whether you like it or not he is a socialist and whants to turn us into germany where the government runs absolutely everything which is very scary if you think about

[UrinationNation]

You have no idea what socialism is, please stop using the word, socialism is police, fire department, a national army,  you don't want socialism, get rid of those rampant patches and protect your self, call your neighbors when your house is on fire. You don't want socialism, better get rid of medicare for the veterans too, because that's a rampant form of socialism, especially since there are more and more veterans each day.

[darkwingppk]

Obama needs to stop being a little bitch and do something whether the asshole republicans want it or not.

[KMacYeah]

SIXTY-SEVENTH!

[dexter1673138]

Weak

I have to get health care! I need to go to Canada

[Satak8]

Obama is a weak weak man...

[ohbradleyboy]

Public option sounds like the way to go

[okayillgonow]

Shit. December? o_0

[Ryu416]

What don't you people undesrstand. Obama didn't make the plan, congress did. Jesus.

[MrHairyNutz]

Not even Obama knows whats in the current healthcare bill

so it shows he doesnt know what he is talking about or he is lieing so which is it

[LiveFreeOrDie091]

Dean looks like he's trying to take a shit !!!!

[DillonX]

Without the Public Option - IT WILL BE A PIECE OF CRAP -- TELL YOUR DC reps to vote agst anything w/out the public option.

[RightWingTerrorist]

How much is the premium on a policy for a family of 4 under the public option?

[TimeLord6646]

i would love to know

[jcpillars]

it will be about 18% less.

[RightWingTerrorist]

Blue cross wants $842. Under Obama's plan it will be $690? I still can't afford that. Now what?

[micsc50]

I wish that idiot would fall off that cliff and take Howard Dean with him. Dean is a first class idiot. He is pro party not policy. Medicare is bankrupt. So you are going to fix health care with a bankrupt option. This man is a FUKING LOON!

[pnoozi]

Well maybe if people like you would pay taxes, it wouldn't be bankrupt.

[micsc50]

I pay mine asshole. How about you? Are you ready to pay a lot more? I hope so because your messiah is going to put it on you. And then we will still be bankrupt because he is an idiot like you.

[pnoozi]

Just the answer I expected...

1) Yea, I'm ready to pay a lot more. We don't really pay that much in taxes relative to other parts of the world like Europe.

2) How would RAISING taxes serve to BANKRUPT our government? Higher taxes certainly wouldn't bankrupt the American people... it would be the rich paying the most money to the government. The only way anyone could oppose such a plan is on principle, ignorance or delusion, because in reality nobody would be going bankrupt.

[micsc50]

Obama has spent more money in 6 mo. than Bush did in 8 years. We are in debt up to our ass. We have spent the future of the next 3 generations. China owns us financially. Obama wants to spend more and people are protesting. You have to be living in a dream world not to see what is happening. You honestly think that the federal government can effectively run the health care industry? You are willing to wait in line for a much needed medical procedure or operation? You have to be brain dead.

[pnoozi]

Nice way to totally sidestep my reply. I'll ask you again: "How would RAISING taxes serve to BANKRUPT our government?"

The answer, of course, is... it wouldn't.

And as far as spending goes... how's that Iraq War going?

[pnoozi]

And if you don't feel like waiting in potential lines for minor medical needs such as check ups, there's always private insurance. Speaking of private insurance... a public option would drive private insurance rates down due to competition and probably get them to stop dropping people's coverage for questionable reasons.

[micsc50]

I never said raising taxes will bankrupt our government. Where did I write that? I am looking all over for it. Where is it? How can I side step something I did not write? Obama is spending money like a drunk teenage girl on a spending spree. Cash for Clunkers. Bailing out banks and ins. co. buying auto manufacturers. Porkulus that does nothing to stimulate the economy. Wars that he likes.

[pnoozi]

"I never said raising taxes will bankrupt our government."

Right. So if you agree with me there, then you shouldn't be against higher taxes on the grounds of the government going bankrupt. You're against higher taxes because you're not thinking in the big picture. Sure, your taxes might go up, but insurance companies will no longer abuse you. Health care costs will drastically fall. And if you're a humanitarian... everyone will be covered.

[pnoozi]

Also...

"Porkulus that does nothing to stimulate the economy."

Spending actually does a lot to stimulate the economy.

"Wars that he likes."

Barack Obama has vocalized his opposition to the Iraq War since the beginning.

[micsc50]

It did nothing because the economy has been in shambles ever since. Obama is a failure. The stimulus was nothing but the democRATs paying for their left wing pet projects. It was a big fucking joke and the country knows it. The cash for clunkers is anmother joke to. The dealers have never been paid and probably won't.They want to do the same with health care. SORRY this country is in for trouble and you can be so proud that you were part of it. Obama is going down FAST like the econmy!

[HowDaddyIsDoing]

i agree. completely.

[micsc50]

The government will go bankrupt after they raise your taxes. Health care by the US government. What a mess that will be. You will wait for months to get anything done. Then you will be at the mercy of some bureaucrat in Washington DC or you will be dead. Are you kidding me? How could anyone want that? Only a person that will never have health problems could possibly want that.

[urantivirus]

You are seriously misinformed. Unless you trust your government less then you would trust any other countries government who offers health care. Which is every first world nation in the world. And if that's the case. You should move to a different country.

[micsc50]

I am not misinformed you are. I want Obama to stay out of my health care business. He is violating the constitution of this great country. He is trampling on my rights. Buying up manufacturing co.insurance co. and banks. Now he wants to take over our health care. Hitler did the same thing when he took over germany. FUCK the Nazi democRATS they can mind their own business. I will buy my own health ins. and my health care will be between me and my doctor. OBAMA FUCK OFF!@!!

[urantivirus]

lol ur nuts. maybe you're not misinformed. maybe you're stupid. really, really stupid. it's people like you that give your "great country"(which I would NEVER want to live in) a really bad name.

[micsc50]

If you think the federal government will take care of you when you get sick you are the one that is STUPID. Not only u r stupid you are BRAIN DEAD.

[urantivirus]

I've had several people in my family who have had cancer and my father had ALS. They all recieved the treatment and equipment they needed. I've also had to use the emergency room several times myself for various sicknesses and injuries. And they took me in right away and treated me. I have no complaints. Keep in mind. I don't live in America.

[micsc50]

How long did he have to wait? And America is one hell of a lot more populated than Canada and we are overwhelmed with big government bureaucracy.

[urantivirus]

My father never had to wait for treatment. Although there isn't much treatment availible for ALS. But they provided him with all the equipment needed like resporator, a computer to talk for him and a place to stay. Cancer patients wait time usually depends on the patients health. You may be right though. Canada's population is much lower.

[micsc50]

If you are in urgent need of care you are in trouble in Canada. I know several people that come to my area on vacation in the winter time. They also get their health care taken care of while they are here and pay out of pocket for it. They tell me its terrible in Canada and hope it does not happen here. Its OK if you are healthy but god help you if you get sick.

[urantivirus]

Like I've mentioned. I've known plenty of people who were sick that got the care they needed. I'm sure there are people who aren't happy with Canada's health care. But I've never met one. And I'm a Canadian who lives in Canada. Not some American who met a few Canadians. And let me tell you. I'm happy I don't live in America. I owe mine and my family's health to my country.

[micsc50]

I live in an area of the south where Canadians vacation in the winter mainly to play golf because of the great courses we have in the area. I also have a friend that has a family medical practice in the area. I have met a handful of Canadians that say the health care in Canada is terrible if you have a medical problem. My friend says he treats quite a few of them in his office. They have also had some call ins on our local talk radio and the Canadian callers confirm what I say.

[micsc50]

I will gaurantee you one thing. No one from America is going to Canada for health care but they dam sure come here.

[stanleythughes]

My father was in Government run Health Care in the US during the early 1970s. It run by the Veterans Administration. He was at a hospital in Oakland. When I visited him as a boy what I remember was the screaming of the patients. The nurse told me the patients were always doing that. I have seen government health care, it sucks

[shoedogg2]

pnoozi actually it does! When you raise taxes it slows growth people lose jobs and businesses make less money so they in turn pay less in taxes. Another example when they cut taxes for capitol gains the amount of tax revenue generated increase significantly. Also I would call rich people virtually global citizens and if it gets to expensive here they move the money and the jobs overseas. It's really pretty simple. With such a global economy you can't burden one sector too much or things shift.

[RightWingTerrorist]

This sounds fishy.

[BARR999]

Obummer?

LOL

[DillonX]

More & more Democrats need to step forward and say they will VOTE AGAINST any bill which doesn't have THE PUBLIC OPTION.

[dietsnapple89]

Obama is stuck between Barack and a Hard Place.

[Diamonddavej]

Read; "Health insurer stocks climb, broader market falls"

Health insurance stocks rose 3% on the news Obama may drop the public insurance plan:

"Morningstar analyst Matt Coffina said factors like that mean a public plan could offer premiums at 20 percent or more below what private plans could offer."

No, its not about choice and competition, its all about profit - loss of profit.

[Nightrunner529]

The new slave masters in the Democrat Party are using the "public option" to placate their black slaves who block vote Democrat on election day. Helps the illegal alien invaders from south of the border also as many may become Democrat slaves if Obamboozle's amnesty goes through, The DNC considers both groups "useful idiots". Let the taxpayer foot their bills.

[StandupShowcase]

night runner thank you for standing up for corporate profits!

[BigBriggsFan]

I realize that most people on here are racist and clueless about politics. Sad.

[Nightrunner529]

Get a fucking life idiot.

[angelgabby]

not just on here but in the USA in general...

[dkkght46]

The AARP sez they dont support obamacare. But last night there were ads on local tv saying they DO support obamacare!

[Logical602]

I guarantee if the far left and far right left this country, middle America would prosper.

[FilmBorne]

sad news. Healthcare, education, the whole finanical system is ruined. I saw reader digest filing chapter 11.

Journalist people have not place to go. They are jobless. People who hold journalism degree will be heading to mcdonald job. Socialism damaged the whole economic system.

yeap. United Socialist America!!!

You know this country is pure socialist. you can easily tell by your own and books.

[curtishawkley]

Anything that involves Howard Dean is a compromise I'm not willing to consider. I can't even watch this shit anymore.

[TankerUSA]

No, we did not, and no, our health care system is not better, and it's dumb fucks like you that don't know any better.

In Germany, no one gets turned away, they don't have deductibles, no co pay, full dental.

Their administration cost is 12%, ours is 29%.

They spend less than half of what we spend per person, for better care, and they cover all including foreigners, which includes full dental.

Our system doesn't even include dental, so pull your head out of your ass!!!

[Logical602]

Just wait until the libs bullshit cap an tax bill gets shot down as well. You fiberals had your utopia for about six monthes. haha!

[MrRealityChker]

President Rhetoric will never regain his popularity. I was going to vote for him also until the first presidential debate with Hillary; He said he would gear NAFTA down to save jobs in US. Less than 8 hr later Canada news reported Obama staff told them don't worry it's just political rhetoric. How true it was! Do any other Obama supporters remember that issue back in Nov 08 debates? Like Bill Maher said he wanted change too just not this kind of change. Obama needs to stop faking us out.

[dkkght46]

At least GW Bush could get shit done and had a backbone to stand up for that which he believed. What you have now is a guy who speaks good when on the prompter, Gaff's when prompter is AWOL, foreign leaders laugh at him or give him the finger and when it comes to domestic policies and programs (laughing) he is a failure. 8 months into the king's reign I ask you this, how's that hope & change working now?

[EnhancementSmoker]

why are you complaining that Obama cant accomplish the "hope and change" that you never wanted done anyway?

[BARR999]

LOL - Obama is caving...

[hotei87]

NHS hospitals are disgusting you're likely to catch something while being treated. If America wanted free health care then NHS is not one you want to follow. Britain is the unhealthiest place in Europe and possibly the poorest health care. What do you think a place like America will be like with all the obese? I just dont see free health care working.

[BigBriggsFan]

Where was all this hate for the government when Bush was in office, stealing elections, running up the deficit, attacking countries, torturing the innocent and the guilty? Two wars. Where where all these protesters when he went against the constitution and did what he wanted to do? Why didn't they come out and go crazy then? The answer is because he was white. They are looking for any excuse to hate Obama. Tea Parties, birth certificates, stimulus, death panels. Truly insane

[andrewclunn]

I hate the Iraq war and went to protests and I hate the idea of government involvement in the health care system. Judge each issue by its merits not its followers. if you judge positions by the wackos, then you'll end up hating everything.

[Logical602]

Your race card argument is so over played and lame.

[artformeandyou]

Howard Dean is lame...

NO public option!

[BigBriggsFan]

I voted for Obama but I now realize Hillary would have done a better job kicking ass of republicans. She's mean as hell and seem to be the only thing that they respect. Obama is afraid to take off the gloves and get his hands dirty because he's black. He has way too many restraints. Not a mean enough guy. He needs to spin lies against the right like they do the left. Their is no death panel but they keep scring old white people with lies. Obama get evil or get gone. They want your head. Attack.

[andrewclunn]

Yes! Obama is listening to the people? Awesome! If he really has listened to the valid concerns brought forth by people, then that would be great and he'd earn quite a bit of respect from me.

[Logical602]

can't*

[Logical602]

Aww, you libs upset because you didn't get your nannystate care. The goverment can run anything without fucking going in debt, and you think this public option would have been any diffrent? You twats are clueless.

[davidperi]

According Business Week, the Health Insurers have already won. The public option is lost...just watch how much more the insurance companies will be more profitable...and more Americans will still be under-insured and be bankrupt after expensive surgery and hospitalizing. We will see what the options will be for the public.

[TankerUSA]

Unfortunately, you are right, the Insurance companies have won, thanks to the millions of dumb asses that bought the bullshit about the government getting in the way of you and your Dr..

Government run health care=no profit.

Insurance run health care=big profit, less coverage, denied claims, and people won't know how screwed they are until they have claims denied on technicalities.

For all you dumb asses, look at the Europeans and their health care, not the BS coming from Palin the pole dancer.

[Tobias8164]

ur owen goverment has brainwashed u american people to get the very principels this nation was founded on.

when people like J.F.K stat getting murded and u people sit stille. it ur owen fault. wake up motherfuckers

[btownhotties]

No public option. No 2012.

[eye7view]

No One can beat the Insurance companies. Big Business owns the Gov.

[miyoshiok1]

Obama needs to push his agenda like Bush and Chaney did with the war Cheney said SO WHAT! about Americans not supporting the war