2009 IDSF World DanceSport Championship Latin - Final:Team 80

[Legris99]

@AceyBlade

Tbh i agree he can sometimes dance stiff, but, is a very competent dancer and can hold his own against the couple you have mentioned but does use rhythms and musicality to his advantage with his creativeness that you see in his routines.

As mentioned before about Smagin/Heron, They deserved their placings however, at international competitions (IDSF) they were heavily undercut pushing them back down the order. You can say they were pushed, but they did deserve it none the less.

[AceyBlade]

@Legris99

More musicality or rhythm than Valentin?

Hard to tell if you're being serious or not.

[mehsheep234]

@AceyBlade Come on.

I agree with Legris about the rythm. ;)

[AceyBlade]

@mehsheep234

Simply put, no. He is not more musical or rhythmical than Valentin.

And he's the only one in the semifinal who looks that stiff.

[mehsheep234]

@AceyBlade

Disagree

watch?v=cot0sXyeYCk&p=C6D7AB04­242D0395&playnext=1&index=4 Valentin iks great really great, but is not able yet to create these movements in the slow part.

[AceyBlade]

@mehsheep234

And like I told you in another video. The video you linked where Neil dances to slow Jive. Guess what? He's not able to recreate that movement in competition either. What Valentin offers especially in the Jive compared to Neil is tighter package with above head and shoulders footwork and speed and dynamics and much more polish.

[AceyBlade]

@rikwhodoesit

UK Open is not IDSF event as far as I'm aware. They can't do anything about it. And really, IDSF opens generally have so many random non-qualified judges in their panels it's a bit sickening. (Hello there Mr.Professor of Meterology who has had nothing to do with dance in the last 10 years). I wish I was kidding.

[AceyBlade]

@rikwhodoesit

Also, when you look at some of the marks from last year's UK open and check what some judges gave Slavik/Hanna you must wonder whose dancing they were actually watching. Those judges in my eyes lost all credibility. There's no chance in this reality they should've placed first in _any_ dance.

[rikwhodoesit]

@nawaymahalin: they made a boycott for the international competitions in England because of all the English judges. They place the English couples way higher than the other. Take Neil Jones and Ekatarina Sokolova, normally they would end up in the top 48 but since they started dancing for England they suddenly made it into the finals of Blackpool!

[AceyBlade]

@rikwhodoesit

Oh, yes. It's an absolute travesty they are being placed so high in the English competitions. All kudos to their dancing, they have very lovely quality about them, but they do not belong into the final. There were so many great couples who were so much deserving the spot in the final with their dancing (Kirill / Elvira, f.ex.).

[AceyBlade]

@rikwhodoesit

One must wonder how long the English judges can do this without losing their credibility. Smagin/Heron's placements few years back could actually be justified, but this couple... No, just no.

[Legris99]

@rikwhodoesit

Neil Jones and Ekaterina Sokolova totally deserve their placing no matter what. Even if they dance for England, they have so much more quality and personality than you may think!!!

At the UK, 3 judges had him first in all 5, you can say it was in England, but unlike continental adjudicating, when it comes to big competitions, politics means fuck all.

If Russia are banning Silde and Zaitsev from Blackpool, I think Neil, with a dam good kick up the ass, has a good chance to win!

[AceyBlade]

@Legris99

I've seen our won national champions beat him in an IDSF competition and they never made it even to semifinals in UK. Now you're even telling me there were some placing them first. Good god. The English judges have always promoted the couples representing England regardless of competition but that is way too much.

[AceyBlade]

@Legris99

I would like you to watch this video:

/watch?v=TzZtasp24vs&feature=r­elated

And tell me if you can, with a straight face, say that Jones/Sokolova

- are faster

- have more body movement

- are better grounded and stronger

than the Danish, Moldovian and American couple? It's appalling to watch that final. I thought Jones had made a lot of progress to warrant at least the final position, but good grief. There's not a male dancer as stiff as him in the semifinals even!

[mehsheep234]

@AceyBlade Everybodey looks stiffy on such shitty videos.

[AceyBlade]

@mehsheep234

Yeah, everybody except the guys who actually use their backs look stiff on those videos. Neil is not one of them. It's very two dimensional, much like Malitowski's dancing although he's gotten a lot better at it over the years. On top of that there's a lot of eyebrow raising coreography, such as the two bars spent in rumba where he practically stands still in a position which remind me more of a junior or youth paso doble routine than an adult finalist routine.

[nawaymahalin]

some russian couples were banned in UK open Amateur LAtin 2010....

1. Silde and Firstova

2. Saitsev and Kuzminskaya

3. Karpov and Tzaptashvilli

[sukthiz1]

why?

[nawaymahalin]

somebody told me that they were not really banned..they made a boycott....dance politics, i guess...

[rikwhodoesit]

They indeed did, but they were not the only couples that made a boycott to the UK open, almost all the Russian couples did. And they will make a boycott to Blackpool too. My teacher told me, she teaches them too. :)

[nawaymahalin]

@rikwhodoesit why are they having boycotts??

[imogenmosher]

@mzoranz THANK YOU SOOOO much You ARE AWESOME!!! ILY

[imogenmosher]

whats the name of this song??

[mzoranz]

@imogenmosher mas que nada is the songs name by sergio mendes and black eyed peas

[binixx]

song:"Mas que nada" this version is on the album "Prandi Sound - Bologna Open 3"

[Lutinedesbois]

Super cool Samba

[oop1991]

they deseved the first place 200%!! they were AMAZING!

[panthro314]

She is so elegant. Ive seen a lot of girls who have really severe dresses, hair and makeup but Anna always goes for a classy look. Also, its nice to see a girl who has such a feminine physique without muscles popping out all over the place.

[XxJennaBitchxX]

@panthro314

espicially for a russian girl

[dancingdancing1]

zadrali uje!!!

[MrPedroAntunes]

I saw the competition live and they are the best. They won and deserved the the 1th place!

[MrFonzipper]

they deserved 5th

[AceyBlade]

@ MrFonzipper

Too bad the majority of the professional judges disagreed with your opinion and marked them first instead of fifth, eh? That's five judges out of nine marking them first in four to five dances. That could've been six out of nine if it wasn't for a certain judge judging her own couple in this final, but we all know a judge in such position would never mark her own couple down.

I happen to agree with the majority, by the way.

[ssyie001]

Which judge was that who marked her own couple?

[AceyBlade]

AFAIK, Nagode-Ambroz has at least one own couple in this final.

[IGnaceLEE]

what a pair of long legs on this guy

[XxJennaBitchxX]

@IGnaceLEE

it'd be nice to see them in a skirt

[THEtinchyDANCE]

who won??

[sonderoffizierguck]

@THEtinchyDANCE

they two...

[maestrosVIP]

they did

[MrDancer94]

The best couple...I love them

[supermariocanada]

wats the song called?

[LeMoreau]

Mas que nada - Sergio mendez ft black eyed peas

thats the original, i don't know who's version that is

[emkeytube]

the original wasn't with the black eyed peas just sergio mendez

[MrPedroAntunes]

I love this couple :D

[Kisiulishe]

супер!Молодцы!!!!