1- Feitosa usually kicks with his front leg and rotates his front hip backward for power, so do Tsukamoto but I didnt show his instructional in kicking with the front leg here. This is how to kick it with the back leg. Buy the DVD for that part of the instructional on kicking with the front leg.
2-. This is a tutorial on the basics. Ofcourse you minimize movements once you learned the basics, but you cannot learn the advanced form without first learning the basic form
@fighterbruno Whatever fool. Jujitsu is Japanese. It is not Brazilian. That's like putting the word Brazilian in front of Sushi and calling it Brazilian Sushi. Only a nation of Faggots and Pig Fuckers would ever do that.
@Karateforlife777 im saying our jiu jitsu because Brazilian jiujitsu is not like japanese jiujitsu if you dont understand that how can you understand the terms like brazilian kick or muay thay kick , you think that japan own all the good things ? Then tell me how many good japanese fighters are out there , i mean champions , you guys only win against your own race , so you created Karate but dont know how to use it who is the fool now ?
I'm 3. DAN karateka and I have newer hird for Brazilian kick and I used it in competitions while I was competing. It is fantastic cause you trick the opponent to think that mae geri is coming or even ura mawashi geri and you finish with mawashi geri. For me that is only mawashi geri with clever preparation.
@Karateforlife777 man i hate my country , you turn the TV on and all you see is violence , brazilian music sucks and all i want to hear is music from other countries , and their fanatism for soccer what a boring thing to deal with , i have to admit that the only thing im proud of is our jiu jitsu ( not all the fighters , we have a lot bad guys using jiu jitsu to hurt inocent people ) some of our food , we have a few good MMA fighters , but thats it , when i make new friends i say watch out
@fighterbruno Whatever fool. Jujitsu is Japanese. It is not Brazilian. That's like putting the word Brazilian in front of Sushi and calling it Brazilian Sushi. Only a nation of Faggots and Pig Fuckers would ever do that.
the comes from k1 announcer, Brazilian invented the kick ,No .Made famous by Brazilian may be but should be called it Brazilian ,No. I saw it decades ago.Misinform badly.Over excited announcer ?
be careful with your knees, the one on the ground, because there is a lot of torque in in and you could have problems later. lately i started having pains in my left knee and i think is from not pivoting on the mawashi geri
what? better you study English! He might be workd champ but if you compare his mawashi gueri with Kenji Midori or Matsui you would understand what is power and speed.....So you study! a bit!
@akira080483 Tsukamoto is Midoris student. And it is not the same mawashi
geri but a variation. Tsukamoto is capable of throwing the same kick as his teacher, but the point of this demo is to show the variation, not the basic version.
the altered direction is what is making it difficult to block. And if you look at the rotation of the support foot when the kick is already on its way to connect, you wont see it coming either.
@kolsyrade i agree its a very deceptive kick ! ever since i saw glaube using this with great effect i have been practicing it , its quite hard to get alot of power with aswell but practice makes perfect ! also as most know well alot commenting dont seem to power is not everything accuracy plays the main part in any fight 20lbs off pressure on most people's jaw and thats it
Yeah good luck watching somebody's toe in a fight. And if you see a leg kick coming, you start to prepare for it... then it switches to a high kick and you're FUCKED
@eldelectable Exactly. Also, this is how to do the BASICS of the kick. Once you got it down, you start to minimize the movements so they are not as exaggerated as in this tutorial.
I heard the term Brazilian Kick on a martial arts forum and thought like what the heck is a Brazilian kick.... I was expecting some crazy Capoeira spinning jumping handstand kick after a double back flip....
This is exaggerated for clarity of demonstration. Once you know it you it, you can start to minimize movements -or even better disguise it as a standard roundkick, so that the sharp change in the in coming angle from upward going to downward going, pass over a guard raised to block a upward angle kick.
"Brazilian kick" is the most commonly heard name for this kick even in Japanese karate (not to mention japanese kickboxing). It has many different formal names depending on who you talk to, but everyone who knows it knows the name brazilian kick.
What are you getting so upset over? (enough to post this in every youtube video you can find that calls it by the brazilian kick).
Ossu! The Kancho Ademir da Costa has launched a DVD in Japan, which shows all the technique of Mawashi Kubi geri manage as well as the parent mae mawashi Kubi geri, the DVD has the title of Technical Ademir da Costa to fight if someone is coming into contact Enteral Ossu !
(The brazilian kick is nothing but the current name mae mawashi Kubi geri, kick it to the living legend of Contact Karate, Kancho Ademir da Costa fundadorda seiwakai popularized the technique with its different to use Mawashi manage the decade of 80, desferindo - several times in the Makoto Nakamura of which was the only to gain the same, post once more the authentic mae mawashi Kubi geri .)
yes. Although the name varies sometimes. I usually hear it refered to in japanese as "Tate kubi mawashi geri" or "tate kubi geri" -or even just "tate geri".
Tate =vertical
mawashi=round
Kubi=neck
Geri= kick
So in effect it means a roundkick that comes at a close to vertical downward angle targeted at the neck.
Never heard it referred to as mae mawashi kubi geri before, but it fits
This is from the 4DVD competition fighting technique series "born to be the strongest" or if you prefer the Japanese title "Shin Kyokushinkai Saikyo wo Kiwameru Karate Nyumon". It was released by the Shin-Kyokushin organization in 2007.
You can find it at the CDJapan or Budovideo webstores (google for complete URL)
This kick can be found in shotokan. Shihan Nakayama describes it as a variation of the regular round kick in one of his Best karate series.Shihan Ueki Maasaki demonstrating.The difference is that the shotokan version the hip is not turned over as much and emphasise striking with the ball of the foot.We were taught to turn our hips over when we do the mawashi geri unlike alot of dojo these days.I must say my sensei was very traditional.
Sorry but this guy is kicking out of the center (watch the video twice), there is no power, no focus too. There is a lot of great martial artist doing the Mawashi Geri or Mae-Mawashi Geri far better.
this kick is to come from the center , avoiding his hand wich is his block , i do it and its powerfull it does knock outs try it on someone while training you'll see for yourself , Osu
osu! one of the best kicks ever made. i have to practice more doing this kick.. brownwhiskey1898 wat the hell are you talking about their is.. the only here that's ignorant is you.
once again, it is called brazilian kick because it was POPULARIZED by kyokushin fighters from Brazil.
Its formal japanese name is Tate kubi mawashi geri. Its seen in many places, but the name brazilian kick has followed it from kyokushin to all other knockdown karate, and from there to kickboxing.
It was not invented by the brazilians, it is not even unique to kyokushin. But it was the brazilan kyokushin fighters who dragged it from being a almost forgotten variation to a popular technique.
Brazilian fighter Feitosa are one of the guys who is the reason this kick is called the "brazilian kick". So is his sempai Filho (who brought it into k-1) and his old teacher Adermir DaCosta (who popularized it in kyokushin in the early 80ies).
I thinks its amazing that people continue to debate where this and that comes from. Martial arts has been around for what over 1800 years and it has been well noted that in that time, that martial techniques and principals cross over from country to country, art to art. The names change but the techniques are still the same. In my school we call this a "slip kick" does that change the technique itself, NO... just the name.
I have never seen this kick in TKD, or heard it referred to as a tkd kick.
In Karate it is pretty much used only in kyokushin karate and kyokushin offshots.
In kickboxing it is mostly used by kyokushin (and kyokushin offshot) fighters, although several outsiders has started to copy it after seeing kyokushin fighters like Glaube Feitosa using it to great success in k-1.
I use it all the time in TKD. We just call it a double round house. It works great. I'm surprised you have never seen it. I have also seen it in Shotokan as it is in a few of the forms I learned. I've seen it used to KO people to. Great kick.
Its just a kick, its not as if someone who practices shotokan karate would not be able to do it. Every kick is in EVERY martial art that uses legs as weapons, just under different names
Ofcourse a shotokan fighter would be able to do it with a bit of practice, just as he could learn any other kick. It is a bit tricky, because it requires some flexibility in the hip, but its not magical in any way. Like you say its just a kick.
But he will not learn it in shotokan, unless from a shotokan fighter who has already learned it from outside the style.
It is just not taught in any main faction of shotokan. Not every techniqe in karate is, nor is it in kyokushin -or any other style.
I see your point. I have never seen it in shotokan comps as its not usefull for their kind of fast sparring, maybe thats why its not their? its impractical for how they fight. I have seen shotokan fighters use it however but i agree now that it wouldnt be in their sparring practice
This is the oldschool "Maha/Brazilian" kick in Shotokan. There is no such kick in the standard Goju-ryu curriculum (the other style Oyama studied). Mas Oyama may have modified this kick for his Kyokushin but he DID learn it in Shotokan, probably from the young Nakayama or Nishiyama.
Also, this kick is used by Shotokan MMA fighter Lyoto Machida, who had learned it in... Shotokan.
I know that this kick is more popular in Kyokushin kumite but it is not a "Kyokushin technique".
while I do not argue that the brazilian kick may originate in shotokan, I have never seen it done there.
The vid you are referring to shows a standard "point karate" round kick, NOT the "brazilian kick". The main differences are the characteristic sharp DOWNWARD angle of the Br.kick, compared to the horizontal impact of the other -and the circular path of the knee as opposed to the "lift the knee straight forward then turn on your foot" as in the point round kick. very important differences!
OK, I see your point. These kicks are different but both can be modified to become the other. If you want more speed you go for the horizontal Shotokan version. If you want more power you go for the Brazilian kick. Basically, when you learn one you understand both and you can use the kick according to your needs.
As for history, Mas Oyama surely learned the oldschool feint kick in Shotokan and PROBABLY got his idea for the Maha kick from it. Not sure but probably.
Any roundkick can be modified until it has become another version. The trad shotokan roundkick (wich is not the same as in you vid) is not that different from the kyokushin kick, which in turn is close to muay thai kicks. that is not the point. The point is that the brazilian kick is very different from the point karate kick. there is a superficial similarity, but nothing more. Try it and you will find the actual body mechanics (especially in the movement of the hip) very different.
as for the history: I dont know if Oyama bothered much with this kick. If he did, he didnt focus much eaching on it. It is more likely to have been brought into kyokushin by Shihan Isobe. He started out a shotokan blackbelt but switched to kyokushin after getting beaten to a pulp in "frindly sparring" vs students of Oyama. He was later sent to brazil to head kyokushin there. He was/is the instructor of all the brazilian fighters who has given the brazilian kick its name (DaCosta, Filho, Feitosa)
Its in Ba Sai(sp?). My father had trained in Shotokan when it first came to the US in the 70's and it was taught with a variety of kicks but has since been dumbed down.
a regular mawashi geri comes in at a slight upward angle or straight in from the side.
The "brazilian" kick comes in at a 45 degree (or more) downward angle, using a last minute hip/body turn to change direction of the kick (which start out as going upward) at the very last minute. The hip/body turn also add a "snapp" to the kick.
yes it is a variant of mawashi geri. A very distinct and difficult variant commonly called the "brasilian kick" since it was popularized by brazilian kyokushin guys (they didnt invent it, they just brought it out from obscurity). THe name has spread because it has been brought into kicboxing by k- fighters from kyokushin like Brazilian Glaube Feitosa.
If you need a japanese name its "Tate kubi mawashi geri", but even the japanese often use the "brazilian kick" for it.
The cutting roundhouse is more of a trad thai kick where the leg do a much larger swinging movement to the side, but done unusually high and turning downward at the end, not this tight small movement.
But Im sure there are variations.
the common cutting kicks are more powerful than the brazilian kick, but are slower and easier to see.
The strength of this kick is that it is so hard to see, its speed and that it suddenly changes direction and passes over the guard even if you do see it.
yes its called the brazillian kick, however it has another japanese name , but its not mawashigeri , this is wrong , its called tatekubi geri, im sure
"Tate kubi mawashi geri", "tate kubi geri" or even just "tate geri" -take your pick. Its just minor variations/simplifications. They are all used for this kick in kyokushin in different places.
Filho/Feitosa use "tate kubi mawashi geri" or just "Tate kubi geri".
Tsukamoto calls it "maha mawashi geri" or just "maha geri" (I dont know why), and his name has spread because of his influence.
But whatever you want to call it in japanese, it is still the Brazilian kick.
In my experience the name "brasillian kick" is used only among fighters that are not brasillian. Brasillians call it tate kubi geri. Also having a dogi on doesn't change the name of the kick, your misdirection must come from hearing K-1 commentators yell "brasillian kick" instead of tate kubi geri.
すごいけどブラジリアンキックじゃなくて縦蹴りだな
グラウベと比較すればわかりやすい
s2youki 2 months ago
極真史上間違いなく最強チャンピオン。
gtoyoc 2 months ago
Shugoi!
TraceurAlexSeng 7 months ago
強いて言えばこれを分類するならば縦蹴りという部類になると思います。軸足は完全に回転し膝から先は独特の軌道を描いています。ブラジリアンキックは変則的な上段回し蹴りの一つですが、膝から先の軌道が半円を描くかのような形でくるっと回って頭部を狙う高度なテクニックのように思われます。
0158abef 9 months ago
@ChaoTiKxMysTiK 2 things.
1- Feitosa usually kicks with his front leg and rotates his front hip backward for power, so do Tsukamoto but I didnt show his instructional in kicking with the front leg here. This is how to kick it with the back leg. Buy the DVD for that part of the instructional on kicking with the front leg.
2-. This is a tutorial on the basics. Ofcourse you minimize movements once you learned the basics, but you cannot learn the advanced form without first learning the basic form
kolsyrade 9 months ago
Maha Geri
mincho178 11 months ago
@fighterbruno Whatever fool. Jujitsu is Japanese. It is not Brazilian. That's like putting the word Brazilian in front of Sushi and calling it Brazilian Sushi. Only a nation of Faggots and Pig Fuckers would ever do that.
Karateforlife777 1 year ago
@Karateforlife777 im saying our jiu jitsu because Brazilian jiujitsu is not like japanese jiujitsu if you dont understand that how can you understand the terms like brazilian kick or muay thay kick , you think that japan own all the good things ? Then tell me how many good japanese fighters are out there , i mean champions , you guys only win against your own race , so you created Karate but dont know how to use it who is the fool now ?
fighterbruno 1 year ago
@Karateforlife777 How could you possibly consider yourself a martial artist with an attitude like that?
eldelectable 11 months ago
I'm 3. DAN karateka and I have newer hird for Brazilian kick and I used it in competitions while I was competing. It is fantastic cause you trick the opponent to think that mae geri is coming or even ura mawashi geri and you finish with mawashi geri. For me that is only mawashi geri with clever preparation.
DamirMilosavljevic 1 year ago
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There is no Brasillian kick,they did not invent it.
yimmiytube 1 year ago
It's called "Otoshi Mawashi Geri" Morons. The Brazilians never invented kick in their lives. They are only good at raping and drug smuggling.. lol..
Karateforlife777 1 year ago
@Karateforlife777 man i hate my country , you turn the TV on and all you see is violence , brazilian music sucks and all i want to hear is music from other countries , and their fanatism for soccer what a boring thing to deal with , i have to admit that the only thing im proud of is our jiu jitsu ( not all the fighters , we have a lot bad guys using jiu jitsu to hurt inocent people ) some of our food , we have a few good MMA fighters , but thats it , when i make new friends i say watch out
fighterbruno 1 year ago
@fighterbruno Whatever fool. Jujitsu is Japanese. It is not Brazilian. That's like putting the word Brazilian in front of Sushi and calling it Brazilian Sushi. Only a nation of Faggots and Pig Fuckers would ever do that.
Karateforlife777 1 year ago
Good. Best tutorial i seen on this kick
ArtOfStreetFighting 1 year ago
Chute inventado por Shihan Ademir da Costa.
bjjsp 1 year ago
I'd like to see him execute the same technique with his lead kick just like Feitosa does it.
lumberjack988 1 year ago
Norichika who?
werleyamaral 1 year ago
tsukamoto is a great teacher
kehhvin 1 year ago
''Brazilian kick'' is very irrelevant when it comes to Karate my friend.
ImIwilliamImI 1 year ago
Feitosa's style is much more powerful.
cypresspuz 1 year ago
this kick is powerful when done right like he has shown us!!
tygrunge 1 year ago
Tweak it some then you might have something there.
Strongliftweighter 2 years ago
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Way to telegraph the kick with that stupid front foot.
strawberiANGEL69 2 years ago
You retard thats the whole point of the brazilian kick, you fake with the front and go into a brazilian
Vaxxel 2 years ago
i think i'm the only one who knows what you mean... ;]
Buli0n 2 years ago
in tkd you always pivot 180 on kicks it adds power and decreases chance of knee injury
GingerSkate7 2 years ago
the comes from k1 announcer, Brazilian invented the kick ,No .Made famous by Brazilian may be but should be called it Brazilian ,No. I saw it decades ago.Misinform badly.Over excited announcer ?
yimmiytube 2 years ago
i can do this kick just fine without the forward foot pivot at the beginning
TheDocbach 2 years ago
so?
alphanum001 2 years ago
be careful with your knees, the one on the ground, because there is a lot of torque in in and you could have problems later. lately i started having pains in my left knee and i think is from not pivoting on the mawashi geri
tokukkai 2 years ago
it wont be as strong but that shows you got good balance! cool man!
akira080483 2 years ago
what!? better study a bit u.
He IS the world champ
fijigofiji 2 years ago
what? better you study English! He might be workd champ but if you compare his mawashi gueri with Kenji Midori or Matsui you would understand what is power and speed.....So you study! a bit!
akira080483 1 year ago
@akira080483 Tsukamoto is Midoris student. And it is not the same mawashi
geri but a variation. Tsukamoto is capable of throwing the same kick as his teacher, but the point of this demo is to show the variation, not the basic version.
kolsyrade 1 year ago
hyakuhachijuu=180
1bol1 2 years ago
the toe moves, and the kick alters direction before it lands, two moves that alert you its coming.
bowerybaker 2 years ago
the altered direction is what is making it difficult to block. And if you look at the rotation of the support foot when the kick is already on its way to connect, you wont see it coming either.
kolsyrade 2 years ago
@kolsyrade i agree its a very deceptive kick ! ever since i saw glaube using this with great effect i have been practicing it , its quite hard to get alot of power with aswell but practice makes perfect ! also as most know well alot commenting dont seem to power is not everything accuracy plays the main part in any fight 20lbs off pressure on most people's jaw and thats it
whatugundo 10 months ago
@whatugundo Practice makes permanent.
Perfect practice makes perfect. ^_^.
corvanjer 4 months ago
Yeah good luck watching somebody's toe in a fight. And if you see a leg kick coming, you start to prepare for it... then it switches to a high kick and you're FUCKED
BakaYaru13 2 years ago 14
@bowerybaker Just watch a Feitosa highlight and you'll see it's not as clear as you'd think.
eldelectable 11 months ago
@eldelectable Exactly. Also, this is how to do the BASICS of the kick. Once you got it down, you start to minimize the movements so they are not as exaggerated as in this tutorial.
kolsyrade 11 months ago
Muay thai basic.
masterwa99 2 years ago
I have seen this kick in karate, tae kwon do etc... and Never in my life ever heard it called a Brazilian kick.
MongrelTheMC 2 years ago 4
exactly my thought. that is why the japanese guy calls it by its true name in japanese.
idontbelieveok 2 years ago
I heard the term Brazilian Kick on a martial arts forum and thought like what the heck is a Brazilian kick.... I was expecting some crazy Capoeira spinning jumping handstand kick after a double back flip....
MongrelTheMC 2 years ago
and exactly my same thought again. hahahaha
idontbelieveok 2 years ago
@MongrelTheMC whats the problem douchebag? is just a name, wake up!
rigapov5000 3 months ago
seems so telegraphed
nezmcg 2 years ago
This is exaggerated for clarity of demonstration. Once you know it you it, you can start to minimize movements -or even better disguise it as a standard roundkick, so that the sharp change in the in coming angle from upward going to downward going, pass over a guard raised to block a upward angle kick.
kolsyrade 2 years ago
Thank you! Had not thougt to exacute the kick from the rear leg. Aligato gazimus
nezmcg 2 years ago
stop calling brazilian kick ,shame on you ,have some dignity
yimmiytube 2 years ago
"Brazilian kick" is the most commonly heard name for this kick even in Japanese karate (not to mention japanese kickboxing). It has many different formal names depending on who you talk to, but everyone who knows it knows the name brazilian kick.
What are you getting so upset over? (enough to post this in every youtube video you can find that calls it by the brazilian kick).
kolsyrade 2 years ago
@kolsyrade but Tsukamoto it's the master and he sais mawashi geri
MrGuachipei 1 year ago
Ossu! The Kancho Ademir da Costa has launched a DVD in Japan, which shows all the technique of Mawashi Kubi geri manage as well as the parent mae mawashi Kubi geri, the DVD has the title of Technical Ademir da Costa to fight if someone is coming into contact Enteral Ossu !
sidivaldo1 2 years ago
if you can, please provide some more info on where to buy that DVD by DaCosta. It is something I really would like to get.
kolsyrade 2 years ago
(The brazilian kick is nothing but the current name mae mawashi Kubi geri, kick it to the living legend of Contact Karate, Kancho Ademir da Costa fundadorda seiwakai popularized the technique with its different to use Mawashi manage the decade of 80, desferindo - several times in the Makoto Nakamura of which was the only to gain the same, post once more the authentic mae mawashi Kubi geri .)
sidivaldo1 2 years ago
yes. Although the name varies sometimes. I usually hear it refered to in japanese as "Tate kubi mawashi geri" or "tate kubi geri" -or even just "tate geri".
Tate =vertical
mawashi=round
Kubi=neck
Geri= kick
So in effect it means a roundkick that comes at a close to vertical downward angle targeted at the neck.
Never heard it referred to as mae mawashi kubi geri before, but it fits
kolsyrade 2 years ago
from what dvd is this from? Ive been looking for theese Instructional dvds everywhere but cant seem to find anything :) thanks!
BlackwallstreetBIH 2 years ago
This is from the 4DVD competition fighting technique series "born to be the strongest" or if you prefer the Japanese title "Shin Kyokushinkai Saikyo wo Kiwameru Karate Nyumon". It was released by the Shin-Kyokushin organization in 2007.
You can find it at the CDJapan or Budovideo webstores (google for complete URL)
kolsyrade 2 years ago
Check out Glaube Feitosa if you wanna see a real brazilian kick guys. Beautiful!
GoofyBoa 3 years ago
he has knocked out many many oppoenents w/this kick!!
frisbeelip 3 years ago
esta patada karateca es fuerte por el giro de la cadera y la velocidad.
terminator654321 3 years ago
This kick can be found in shotokan. Shihan Nakayama describes it as a variation of the regular round kick in one of his Best karate series.Shihan Ueki Maasaki demonstrating.The difference is that the shotokan version the hip is not turned over as much and emphasise striking with the ball of the foot.We were taught to turn our hips over when we do the mawashi geri unlike alot of dojo these days.I must say my sensei was very traditional.
pokeypoker 3 years ago
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Not even close to a real brazilian kick.
zyura 3 years ago
Sorry but this guy is kicking out of the center (watch the video twice), there is no power, no focus too. There is a lot of great martial artist doing the Mawashi Geri or Mae-Mawashi Geri far better.
jgdesigner 3 years ago
this kick is to come from the center , avoiding his hand wich is his block , i do it and its powerfull it does knock outs try it on someone while training you'll see for yourself , Osu
adnanmodak 3 years ago 3
Such control and power.
BarneyFife00 3 years ago
OSU! great tsukamoto!
toboe2 3 years ago
I met this guy at summer camp in Bulgaria.Hes great,thats all i can say
dan4oslav2 3 years ago
what the name of thats kicking in taekwon-do??its like dollyo chagi??
indras88 3 years ago
osu! one of the best kicks ever made. i have to practice more doing this kick.. brownwhiskey1898 wat the hell are you talking about their is.. the only here that's ignorant is you.
kinghades 3 years ago
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fucking ignorants, there is no such thing call the brazilian kick..
brownwhiskey1898 4 years ago
once again, it is called brazilian kick because it was POPULARIZED by kyokushin fighters from Brazil.
Its formal japanese name is Tate kubi mawashi geri. Its seen in many places, but the name brazilian kick has followed it from kyokushin to all other knockdown karate, and from there to kickboxing.
It was not invented by the brazilians, it is not even unique to kyokushin. But it was the brazilan kyokushin fighters who dragged it from being a almost forgotten variation to a popular technique.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
than what is glaube feitosa's best kick? the raging drunken pirate?
JohnnyxCash 3 years ago
Brazilian fighter Feitosa are one of the guys who is the reason this kick is called the "brazilian kick". So is his sempai Filho (who brought it into k-1) and his old teacher Adermir DaCosta (who popularized it in kyokushin in the early 80ies).
Is this really THAT difficult to understand?
kolsyrade 3 years ago
I thinks its amazing that people continue to debate where this and that comes from. Martial arts has been around for what over 1800 years and it has been well noted that in that time, that martial techniques and principals cross over from country to country, art to art. The names change but the techniques are still the same. In my school we call this a "slip kick" does that change the technique itself, NO... just the name.
AMERPCEWARRIOR 4 years ago 8
Some people seems to be calling this a Brazilian kick or a Tae Kwon Do kick however, this is a typical/popular Karate kick.
consumingfear 4 years ago
I have never seen this kick in TKD, or heard it referred to as a tkd kick.
In Karate it is pretty much used only in kyokushin karate and kyokushin offshots.
In kickboxing it is mostly used by kyokushin (and kyokushin offshot) fighters, although several outsiders has started to copy it after seeing kyokushin fighters like Glaube Feitosa using it to great success in k-1.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
Yeah, I know.
I just can't believe the ignorance from some of those people.
consumingfear 4 years ago
I use it all the time in TKD. We just call it a double round house. It works great. I'm surprised you have never seen it. I have also seen it in Shotokan as it is in a few of the forms I learned. I've seen it used to KO people to. Great kick.
ozthepowerful 4 years ago
I am familiar with all shotokan forms. It is not in any of them. Please provide reference.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
Its just a kick, its not as if someone who practices shotokan karate would not be able to do it. Every kick is in EVERY martial art that uses legs as weapons, just under different names
cryingindian 4 years ago 3
Ofcourse a shotokan fighter would be able to do it with a bit of practice, just as he could learn any other kick. It is a bit tricky, because it requires some flexibility in the hip, but its not magical in any way. Like you say its just a kick.
But he will not learn it in shotokan, unless from a shotokan fighter who has already learned it from outside the style.
It is just not taught in any main faction of shotokan. Not every techniqe in karate is, nor is it in kyokushin -or any other style.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
I see your point. I have never seen it in shotokan comps as its not usefull for their kind of fast sparring, maybe thats why its not their? its impractical for how they fight. I have seen shotokan fighters use it however but i agree now that it wouldnt be in their sparring practice
cryingindian 4 years ago
It IS taught in Shotokan Karate.
watch?v=mAamkmc4idw
Lyoto Machida (Shotokan fighter in the UFC) used this kick against Tito Ortiz on May 24th, in the second round.
Hotora86 3 years ago
hahahahahah
thats a kyokushin kick man
RiberaJunglists 3 years ago
Mas Oyama learned that kick under Gichin Funakoshi, the founder of Shotokan Karate.
Hotora86 3 years ago
i think no, he learn shotokan as you say, but also others styles, that " brazilian" kick is not from shotokan, when you see it in a shotokan kumite?
RiberaJunglists 3 years ago
watch?v=mAamkmc4idw
This is the oldschool "Maha/Brazilian" kick in Shotokan. There is no such kick in the standard Goju-ryu curriculum (the other style Oyama studied). Mas Oyama may have modified this kick for his Kyokushin but he DID learn it in Shotokan, probably from the young Nakayama or Nishiyama.
Also, this kick is used by Shotokan MMA fighter Lyoto Machida, who had learned it in... Shotokan.
I know that this kick is more popular in Kyokushin kumite but it is not a "Kyokushin technique".
Hotora86 3 years ago
while I do not argue that the brazilian kick may originate in shotokan, I have never seen it done there.
The vid you are referring to shows a standard "point karate" round kick, NOT the "brazilian kick". The main differences are the characteristic sharp DOWNWARD angle of the Br.kick, compared to the horizontal impact of the other -and the circular path of the knee as opposed to the "lift the knee straight forward then turn on your foot" as in the point round kick. very important differences!
kolsyrade 3 years ago
OK, I see your point. These kicks are different but both can be modified to become the other. If you want more speed you go for the horizontal Shotokan version. If you want more power you go for the Brazilian kick. Basically, when you learn one you understand both and you can use the kick according to your needs.
As for history, Mas Oyama surely learned the oldschool feint kick in Shotokan and PROBABLY got his idea for the Maha kick from it. Not sure but probably.
Hotora86 3 years ago
Any roundkick can be modified until it has become another version. The trad shotokan roundkick (wich is not the same as in you vid) is not that different from the kyokushin kick, which in turn is close to muay thai kicks. that is not the point. The point is that the brazilian kick is very different from the point karate kick. there is a superficial similarity, but nothing more. Try it and you will find the actual body mechanics (especially in the movement of the hip) very different.
kolsyrade 3 years ago
as for the history: I dont know if Oyama bothered much with this kick. If he did, he didnt focus much eaching on it. It is more likely to have been brought into kyokushin by Shihan Isobe. He started out a shotokan blackbelt but switched to kyokushin after getting beaten to a pulp in "frindly sparring" vs students of Oyama. He was later sent to brazil to head kyokushin there. He was/is the instructor of all the brazilian fighters who has given the brazilian kick its name (DaCosta, Filho, Feitosa)
kolsyrade 3 years ago
Its in Ba Sai(sp?). My father had trained in Shotokan when it first came to the US in the 70's and it was taught with a variety of kicks but has since been dumbed down.
ozthepowerful 4 years ago
brazilian kick i dont see brazilian kick only see mawashi geri
feher75 4 years ago
a regular mawashi geri comes in at a slight upward angle or straight in from the side.
The "brazilian" kick comes in at a 45 degree (or more) downward angle, using a last minute hip/body turn to change direction of the kick (which start out as going upward) at the very last minute. The hip/body turn also add a "snapp" to the kick.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
the brazilian kick dont exist,that is only a variant from the mawashi geri, in shotokan we call ko mawashi geri
feher75 4 years ago
yes it is a variant of mawashi geri. A very distinct and difficult variant commonly called the "brasilian kick" since it was popularized by brazilian kyokushin guys (they didnt invent it, they just brought it out from obscurity). THe name has spread because it has been brought into kicboxing by k- fighters from kyokushin like Brazilian Glaube Feitosa.
If you need a japanese name its "Tate kubi mawashi geri", but even the japanese often use the "brazilian kick" for it.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
dude, he said "jibun-yu" which means hes doin it in his own style.
Tsukamoto Senpai is a really good fighter but, i dont think his braz kick is too efficient.
richardfactory 4 years ago
in kick boxing we call this a cutting roundhouse
koryureppa 4 years ago
The cutting roundhouse is more of a trad thai kick where the leg do a much larger swinging movement to the side, but done unusually high and turning downward at the end, not this tight small movement.
But Im sure there are variations.
the common cutting kicks are more powerful than the brazilian kick, but are slower and easier to see.
The strength of this kick is that it is so hard to see, its speed and that it suddenly changes direction and passes over the guard even if you do see it.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
Interesting what style is this?
Pauljos79 4 years ago
Style: Kyokushin
Organization: WKO shin-kyokushin. (the second largest kyokushin faction).
But the technique is common in all kyokushin groups.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
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this is not a brazilian kick!
its "Mach Kick".
there is a difference!
michinco 4 years ago
no, there is no difference. Mr Tsukamoto just use a different name of his own invention.
It is the brazilian kick.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
yes its called the brazillian kick, however it has another japanese name , but its not mawashigeri , this is wrong , its called tatekubi geri, im sure
ahmednabil 4 years ago
"Tate kubi mawashi geri", "tate kubi geri" or even just "tate geri" -take your pick. Its just minor variations/simplifications. They are all used for this kick in kyokushin in different places.
Filho/Feitosa use "tate kubi mawashi geri" or just "Tate kubi geri".
Tsukamoto calls it "maha mawashi geri" or just "maha geri" (I dont know why), and his name has spread because of his influence.
But whatever you want to call it in japanese, it is still the Brazilian kick.
kolsyrade 4 years ago
lol, i see , just because u have the karate uniform , but i understand that the common name is brazillian kick. noce video anyway
ahmednabil 4 years ago
ahmednabil:
In my experience the name "brasillian kick" is used only among fighters that are not brasillian. Brasillians call it tate kubi geri. Also having a dogi on doesn't change the name of the kick, your misdirection must come from hearing K-1 commentators yell "brasillian kick" instead of tate kubi geri.
MononofuBlood 4 years ago
thanx for the information , i really appreciate it.
but if u read the complete comments above , u will know that my opinion is thate tate kubi geri is the right name.
ahmednabil 4 years ago
Osu... An excellent kick!
Izzy11215 4 years ago