Love how people who work out in the elements are more aware and are more knowledgable about the environment than cubicle bunnies. Taking notice of the environment/looking up into the sky is...just not done anymore. People would rather look Down at their iPads...smdh
@swtbrry32 Its true though, I work outside all day as a land surveyor in Canada. I am constantly looking up at the sky, clouds, sun. Ahem planes. The suns intensity feels different to me. Almost brighter. But that is just me.
A magnetic pole shift doesn't have anything to do with a PHYSICAL shift of the earth. It simply means the magnetic field is moving and it has done this thousands of times on Earth since the beginning. It doesn't pose a threat to human civilization. The only threat would be with aviation. Eventually north will become south on our compass but the earth itself never moves. People really need to learn the difference. The earth cannot flip upside down physically. It's very complex geography/astronomy
Get a compass and see for yourself. Magnet North has never been True North.
You all should have been a Boy Scout. The last shift over 700 million years ago ? Now how the heck would we know that? Were you around then or maybe your great,great,great super great ancestors were ?? duh. This video lacks real substance.
@semtech30 When flowing lava hits water it hardens quickly and locks in a sort of snap shot of the earths magnetism and direction. Geologist take samples of these and have found that the magnetism has reversed going back through our history, and not just once but multiple times.
@RevolutionRequired Wouldn't gravity be stronger than polar magnatism?? or maybe the force of water given the direction the lava it was hit? So many probabilities.
Right now the shift is getting closer to True North. I don't see a problem with that.
No reason to put up disaster alarm. When it gets to Russia they will claim it as theirs, he,he,.
@semtech30 here put this after youtube . com/ watch?v=pGKKzsRjJ_Y
Or search NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?
It is a documentary explaining the science behind how the particles inside the rock formations align to the magnetic field and would be unaffected by gravity or the force of the water. Its accepted science that pole shifts have occurred in the past, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
there will be signs in the sun the moon and earth. It is close at hand, those who believe in lies better get themselves right while you still can
God said he will take away the fowls of heavans Dead birds falling from the sky, and fishes from the sea, millions of dead fish turned up on beaches of norway.stop following false PROFITS = TV evangalists. Just get yourself right with god. Those who relish in lies will be destroyed.
When the earthquake happened in D.C. and other states a few months ago I felt the pole shift to the left. Time is short and complete and utter decimation is coming. This is God's wrath for sin against him. Only a few will make it out. Im not a conspiracy theorist. Im a servant of Jesus Christ and im telling you this stuff is real. Something is happening almost everyday all around the world. This will continue. Repent and turn to your creator. Read the holy bible.
ok guys not only are you guys headed across the plan of are galaxy but also around a spiral arm of are galaxcy. Then you have the SUN. Then you have a radiation belt we are going through. Then you have electro-megnetic energy discrupting birds and fish brains. Makeing them go crazy or go into shock. There is some much going on al at once. The thing is you don't need to know. If you can't figure it out then why would you need to know? WHY/ so you can have a over population when food is hard toget
If this is correct the sun would be the cause, along with other magnetic bodies in our solar system moving towards and away from earth, they can act like strong magnets amplifying, and weakening or degrading others. Think of putting two magnets next to each other when they are opposite poles they attract but sometimes when they are the same they repel each other and can cause one to filp around so they would "stick together"
we would be if this is all true and not a normal wobble of the poles,(not switching but just wondering miles in circles) then this will also affect our mental abilities, making the entire earth go threw a bipolar phase where the world will seem like it is ass backwards. Use your own moral compass so to speak:)
so the reporters are saying the magnetic poles are shifting, but what these people that are interwiewed are describing is a physical shift of entire continents? or the entire planet?
@immamonster78 I have theorized that the magnetic pole shift is creating a physical "wobble" of the planet. Not so much noticeable at sunrise, but more at sunset. Cliff Mickelson has done more research regarding this.
@hereitcomesskippy Gads! Clif Mickleson... I haven't seen that name for years- since way back when Nancy Lieder was quoting him as a source for proof of her silly claims. I'd guess he is as full of shit now as he was in 2001or so.
Well, lucky for me I don't regard the opinion of those who just blatantly tell me I'm wrong very seriously. If I did, I never would have found out as much as I have. Thanks for the pseudoreply.
Right so it's definately not global warming but a shift in alignment with the sun which would explain why the north pole is shrinking while the southern pole is growing in thickness.We are also entering a more dangerous area of the galaxy as we move above the plain which happens every 26 thousand yrs or so Go to Lpac tv or look up Lyndon Larouche for better explanation on the science!
@2wheels88 There has been no shift in Earth's alignment with the sun. It's nothing but uninformed fear-mongering. "Look up Lyndon Larouche" for the science??? Hilarious!
@hereitcomesskippy Wrong. Pure imagination and pseudoscience. The location of the magnetic north pole has little or no effect on Earth's overall weather.
@hammaann Absolutely nothing and that's my point.greenies seem to blame everything and anything on global warming and so i was just pointing out that this phenomenon has nothing to do with it.
what people don't understand is that this isn't an, "End of the World" scenario. this is just a natural system that the planet depends on. hell you can even watch an episode of Nova on the PBS station and it'll tell you that poll shifts are a natural occurrence. at best we'll have some radio interference, a few satellites won't calibrate right and we might lose the Internet for a few days. at worst a full communications black out but not the world cracking in half >,<
one day they said it was gonna rain it was sunny, when they said it was not going to snow it snows, get the fuck out of here man made instriments just like everything else has flaws
bullshit ,, faulty manufacturing is more like it bitch ,you think everything is perfect a weather man cant even tell you the weather! thats how bullshit instriments are ,
@Astrosurfer333 You are correct. Menow has been following this video and topic around all over the internet. I believe he has been "assigned" this topic to discredit. He works alongside characters like Astromut who can somehow manage to post replies on numerous message board topics 24 hours a day. How does one person do that?
@hereitcomesskippy You are welcome to explain what "credit" this topic deserves. It's being used to claim that the sun and Moon are out of place in the sky. People who like astronomy don't like to see those type of lies being perpetuated. No one who likes astronomy has to be "assigned" to the subject in order to take time to try to correct the lies.
@hereitcomesskippy I certainly don't post "24 hours a day". That is just another lie on your part- just like the lie that the movement of magnetic north is related to a shift in Earth's PHYSICAL axis of rotation. Of course you don't respond to points of discussion like this, you just call the poster a "troll" and block them.
@weebles777 One person is posting 24 hours a day? Simply not true. You can't show where that person is posting 24 hours a day because it didn't happen. Skippy lied.
There is nothing to "discredit" about this topic, but there are corrections to the false fear-mongering. Earth's magnetic poles are shifting and always have. Earth's PHYSICAL poles are NOT shifting. The two are not related.
@hereitcomesskippy I am horrified about this astromut dwed. I only recently learnt that he is a mega troll.. or was or whatever. That could be why people are so weary of me because our nics are similar. Perhaps they think we are the same. I am very upset about this as I am very fond of my avatar and name. I don’t particularly want to change it just because of one persons stuff ups. Sigh. There is always a handful of people that spoil it for the rest of the world. Bastids! >.<
@Astrosurfer333 It is pretty obvious that people "lack an education" when they freak out over a shift in the magnetic poles and think it means Earth's physical poles are shifting. What would you say is the purpose of this vid, other than hysterical fear-mongering?
the earth is slowing up to stop spinnin and then it will spin back in the other direction n then back again like it did before like it says in the "bible"
@Astrosurfer333 Why would I want to check that out? First, it was not "Cornell University" who originated it. Second, it speaks of an alleged MINISCULE change in the Moon's orbit- on the order of a few centimeters a year. Exactly what are you attempting to read into that?
even if so, what can you/anyone do about it. nothing. not a darn thing. i guess you can prepare for any dangers one may think may come, but thats about it.
@JKaizen75 If you operate in a golf ball size consciousness and read a book, you will have a golf ball size understanding of it. I'm sure your mother did not breast feed you when you were young. Your brain has not developed, maybe you should hit the malls and keep buying more stuff. I feel sorry for you. peace.
@JKaizen75 i see where you are coming from, there is a difference from a magnetic shift and axis shift, but you are wrong to think these guys wouldnt know a axis tilt when they see one. they are one of the few that still look at the skies for daily life! never jump to the chance to call someone dumb, and hate is a poison brother. i pray that you open those eyes god gave you so u can see the truth, god bless!
@smadaman101 Then why have no astronomers spoken up about a shift in Earth's axis? Why don't you go to any local astronomy club, university or planetarium and acquire a clue?
@menow20000 Almost all amateur astronomers use electronic positioning software. The coordinates for that software comes from government owned satellites. The numbers have been adjusted so that everything adds up. The amateur astronomers don't know that anything is out of the ordinary. I imagine the change is more noticeable near the poles as well and there aren't that many people living there to comment. If you don't think that the government cooks the books. Think again.
@hereitcomesskippy So it's all covered by a vast conspiracy? That is about as insightful as your suggestion that things are more out of place in the sky when observed from near the poles. If you think the government can control the functioning of "almost all" telescopes you're either dreaming or paranoid.
@hereitcomesskippy Continued: I wonder how you explain the fact that sunrise locations and times, eclipses, transits, etc, etc, found in books printed decades ago agree with the modern data.
@menow20000 I have a Farmer's almanac calendar and the times for sunrise and sunset are off. I suppose you have checked all these old books yourself? The governement controls the satellites, they control the numbers. I believe the Inuits.
@hereitcomesskippy I strongly suspect that you don't know how to read the almanac or compensate for local topography or the variation in sunrise times over the width of time zones. Satellites have nothing to do with the functioning of telescopes. Do you really think you have discovered something the world's astronomers have missed? Really?
@hereitcomesskippy The Inuit "have"? Have what? No one can "keep" the sky from the world's astronomers. Just because YOU know nothing about the sky, that doesn't mean others are as ignorant.
@hereitcomesskippy By the way... you didn't say how far the sunrise times are allegedly "off". The Inuits say that Earth's poles have shifted, hmm? Well, all you have to do to prove the world's astronomers wrong and the Inuit right is to take a time-exposure of the north star over a few hours and show that it is no longer the center of rotation for the northern sky. I have been challenging people to do that for years and no one has ever done it. Maybe you'll be the first. Not holding breath.
@hereitcomesskippy I suggest you do a search for "telescope electronic positioning software" and see what results you get. You actually have no idea how modern telescopes operate or the abilities of the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers around the world.
@menow20000 Oh, you're part of the Astronut group.... I remember now. We've had a long debate on this already. Interesting how you keep finding me.... How many people are you anyhow? I'm just one and I am Skippy.
@hereitcomesskippy "Group"? I am part of no "group". I am just someone who knows a bit about astronomy, as opposed to you, who is obviously just guessing. You just make up random things and imagine they are "facts", like this "electronic positioning software" crap you just spouted.
@smadaman101 If the Inuit think Earth's axis has shifted, they are wrong since it has not happened to any degree visible by eye. Therefor, so are you, wrong.
@menow20000 Dude, I am not worried about this topic anymore. Maybe the translators intentionally mistranslated what the guys were saying. I was wrong about sun and moon setting the same point on the horizon, you were right. Let it go man...At least I learned something new. When it comes to that aspect of astronomy, I admit I'm not that great. It's annoying when someone can't stop when the other admits being wrong. It shows a lack of sportsmanship, & u got me all wrong btw. debating = ego, to u?
@smadaman101 After adamantly claiming that the Moon is way out of place in the sky, now you're suddenly "not worried" about this topic anymore and complaining about me? Priceless!
Here is something you continued to claim: "That doesnt change the fact that there IS something different lately."
OK... WHAT is different? Are you still talking about the locations of objects in the sky? Please be specific.
@menow20000 I dont mean stop debating, I mean the other stuff. "You wrong about this? admit that" "Theyre wrong, so are you" and that stuff. I went back and read and saw where some confusion occurred. I was new to debates and didnt realize that the comments went under the ones you click reply on when you view them like this. that's why I drifted topics some...Doesn't change the fact I can tell you look like a gorilla toothed, mega dork, with a stanky skanky taint! :P You know that was funny.....
@menow20000 and menow???. . .I'm sure it is me now, but I always imaging a cat with the ability to pronounce the letter n and add it to meow in the year 20000. Just thought I would throw that out there. At least I dont call ppl nincompoops! Wow..no red squiglies under nincompoop!?
@menow20000 Well they have! 3 recent earthquakes have changed our tilt by inches they claim, Mitchu is one that springs to mind, Astrophysicist tho. I prefer my observations and knowledge of things like, the moon and sun are on the same eliptic plane +/- 5 degrees. Yet if you look as of late, theres way more than a 5 degree difference. Not to mention the fact that the moon doesnt do its gradual soltice move which is usually similar to the sun. it jumped at least 15 degree in a week not long ago.
@smadaman101 It's actually the shifting of our Earth's physical axis that is causing the earthquakes. Don't let the media fool you. It's a lot more than inches too. The entire country of Japan has moved over 10 feet and has had magnitude 5 earthquakes on a daily basis since March 11th. They have probably moved more than we are told. It's so bad that Japan is offering free airfare just to go over there. No one wants to...
@hereitcomesskippy "It's actually the shifting of our Earth's physical axis that is causing the earthquakes." Nice theory, but you can't show that Earth's axis has shifted, because it hasn't. Polaris is still right where it belongs and sunrise/set is right where it belongs. You are welcome to study the Katcam archives from past years and compare to now. They have a search function so you can check any sunset you like.
@menow20000 What's stranger to me is that you won't do it. You are the astronomy buff, the knowitall. Your team has been arguing a point for years but you don't show the proof. I don't have time lapse equipment. Why don't you, Mr. Astronomy expert get with Astronut or dog and make the time lapse video and post it on Youtube? I would love to check it out. Then you could retire with your other astronomy cronies to the bar for a drink knowing you did a job well done and disproved all us "suntards".
@hereitcomesskippy I won't do it? I'm not the one who thinks Earth's axis has shifted. I can point to any number of resources showing that nothing is out of place. I am suggesting an EASY way for YOU to prove you are right, yet YOU WON'T DO IT. I know you won't because this challenge has gone untaken for some 5 years now. If you DID do it, it would prove you wrong. There are LOTS of sky trails images being taken ALL THE TIME, and they ALL prove you wrong. I'm just telling you how to test. DO IT!
@hereitcomesskippy "We" have shown proof over and over and over again and you just ignore it! Astronut has made vid after vid after vid over at GLP showing the conspiracy theories wrong. You just IGNORE them. Do you want ME to search for timelaps vids of Polaris FOR you? There are LOTS of them, you nincompoop!
@menow20000 You inspired me to upload a new video. Your 3 videos had no good point of reference and were too short. I made one showing Polaris wandering away from it's supposed stable position in the sky. Thanks for the inspiration.
@hereitcomesskippy The point of reference is the pattern of stars. If you knew the first thing about astronomy, you could tell it's Polaris. I did that search in all of two minutes. If you want longer vids, FIND THEM!
@hereitcomesskippy The claim is that things are many degrees out of place, skippy. That vid shows no such thing. It shows Polaris to be right where it belongs.
@hereitcomesskippy Where did that come from. REALLY hard to see much, but what you can see confirms that Polaris is right where it belongs- a tiny angular distance from the center of rotation. NO one said that Polaris doesn't move at all. You are just imagining more fubar astronomy.
@hereitcomesskippy Good one, showing the whole night and the small circle Polaris describes in the sky. There are any number of these you care to find, including the one you posted which all show that Earth's is not "wobbling".
@smadaman101 What does a theoretical 3 inch shift in Earth's axis have to do with anything observable? Nothing at all.
I'm willing to bet good money that you don't have the slightest clue where the ecliptic is in the sky at any given time. The moon always makes the same variation in a month as the sun does in a year. You are clueless about astronomy, yet deciding something is "wrong" in the sky. Typical.
@menow20000 That was just where i left off from the previous comment, i didnt have room. You obviously dont understand what i said. The sun and moon are on the same ecliptic plane, therefore they should set in the same place within 5 degrees. If my friend & i measured a difference of 20 degrees then they arent on the same ecliptic. this is a recent observation unrelated to the tilt, as if what ever caused the tilt also effected the orbit of the moon. I dont care of other beliefs, too little time
@smadaman101 "The sun and moon are on the same ecliptic plane, therefore they should set in the same place within 5 degrees."
NO, THEY SHOULD NOT. The ecliptic does not hold still and remain in the same location on the horizon between the setting times of the sun and the moon! You are trying to imagine how things are, but you are actually clueless.
@menow20000 Ok, someone spammed the 1 you claim discredited my knowledge of the ecliptic plane. I was able to read it though, & i have to say, it shows a lack of knoledge on the subject in your part. Like the "clockwork mentioned, summer & winter soltice appear on the same point of the horizon each year. Ancients marked the point for agricultural reasons (my theory is for change notification). For the time between sun & moon settings in a day/night, will NOT be a visible difference naturallyCONT
@smadaman101 "For the time between sun & moon settings in a day/night, will NOT be a visible difference". Heh. Nonsense. There can be many degrees of movement of where the ecliptic intersects the horizon in just a few hours. I have no idea why someone who claims to have studied astronomy for a number of years wouldn't know that.
@menow20000 Oh pleeeease explain how it changes in hours? i gotta hear this! With your idea of the ecliptic, the sun wouldnt be a gradual daily shift from one soltice to the other! the only thing, as i explained, that changes the setting points is the relation of earth in its orbit due to its tilt! Nothing else naturally! Unless you think the earth NATURALLY wobbles, come on man! i explained my claim as i claimed it. Why cant u? Oh thats right i appear arogant to u, since the trolling failed :)
@smadaman101 Explain how the ecliptic changes location on the horizon in hours? Earth rotates, you insuffereable nincompoop! Earth certainly doesn't need to "wobble" to make it happen. You REALLY have no idea what you're talking about.
@menow20000 The natural tilt of the earth changes the position, which only changes ecliptic perspective as the earth revolves around the sun. Mid summer at summer soltice in N hemisphere which is Winter in the Southern. So 182.5 days between winter and summer soltices, or half a revolution round the sun. So, within the time the two set in a given day, there isnt but a minute natural difference. Therefore, something is wrong when there is a 20 degree difference in setting points.
@smadaman101 If the ecliptic is HIGH in the sky on the daytime side of Earth, it's LOW in the sky on the night time side. Hard to believe you don't understand this. Wait.. no, it's not hard to believe. It fits right into the other nonsense you have to believe to think the moon is not acting normally.
@menow20000 You could be right about that one, its hard to prove it without a globe. hmm??? nope need a globe, but im just giving u the benefit of the doubt is all. Never said i knew it all. That doesnt change the fact that there IS something different lately. Thats the only thing im wrong about if that is the case. That just makes it that much harder for the average person to notice it. I was messing with the whole troll bit btw, & sorry 4 coming cross as arrogant, i like debates not arguments.
@menow20000 Some have tried to prove the sun is setting in the wrong place, which i believe. The problem is, they use a compass to do it. Magnetic North is drifting (i believe bc the axis is) so compasses are inacurate. Pilots had to have them adjusted, which was on the news! They couldnt blackout that info for 2 reasons. You cant silence every pilot, plus, many ppl have compasses. It caused a big deal at 1st, pilots actually flew off course. I figured they used newer tech by now!
@menow20000 Its more than 3 "theoretical" inches btw. that was only one of the quakes, add the estimated amount of the 3 and its in the double digits. You asked if any astronomers supported it, and u obviously knew about it. Why you arguing then?
@smadaman101 Yes, it was THEORETICAL, not MEASURED. You think that every earthquake would shift the axis in the same direction and "add up"? Gawd you're dense.
@menow20000 I KNOW that isnt right! plus, its all over the news about the recent magnetic shift, what do you think would happen if the actual pole changed? I know they are blaming it on other things, but dont be the type to believe the mainstream bro. if they admitted to inches, theres no telling of what the truth is. my friend Sally and i measured a 20 degree difference between where the sun & moon set the other day. which a tilt doesnt explain, but a gravitational interference may explain it
@smadaman101 You know WHAT isn't right? You think the sun and moon are supposed to set in the same place as each other? Why? What does the news about a magnetic shift have to do with this?
@menow20000 Other things that are explained by a shift, the soltices & moon phases have always been like clockwork. Why is it that the sun came up days earlier than it was suppose to in the north pole? Also, the Hebrew calender is set by moon phases instead of a 365 revolution around the sun. the phases were charted long ago & were acurate till recently. It was just another confirmation when the feast of trumpet new moon was days off from predicted. the 29th of sept instead of 27th, i think
@smadaman101 The sun did not "come up early". That is just one more hysterical internet rumor. Everything you cite is of the same caliber and validity- none at all. Everything IS still like clockwork- internet hysteria notwithstanding. There has been no "shift".
@menow20000 Just saw the sun didnt come up early comment. How can you claim its hysteria? That is an assumption, and i did my research b4 repeating it. Let me guess, u went to one website that denied it & you believed it? That IS one thing im not positive on, but im 90% sure its true from looking it up AFTER i noticed things myself & looked to see if it was abnormal. Not the other way around. I didnt see a vid and repeat, i observed THEN went to see if anyone else was seeing the things i saw.
@smadaman101 I didn't claim that the people seeing the supposed "early sun" were subject to hysteria. The REPEATING of that story as proof of a poleshift is due to hysteria. That phenomenon is not new at all and has been known to cause the sun to SEEM to rise as much as two weeks early. It's called the Novaya Zemlya effect and is not uncommon at all.
@smadaman101 You said: "...but im 90% sure its true from looking it up AFTER i noticed things myself & looked to see if it was abnormal." WHAT is abnormal? Please be SPECIFIC!
@menow20000 My very 1st observation was the crescent moon 1 day was upside down i guess u can say. in the position of a bowl, & im a night owl smoker who watches the moon and stars every night. I though, "uh? i dont remember this b4? i thought it was just in my head that it wasnt usual at 1st, then my aunt started telling me that she thought we were in the last days. She went on to explain the Virgo astrological fullfillment of revelations, quakes @ volcanism like she had never seen, & the CONT
@menow20000 time since she can remember the moon looking like it does. Had her explain, She noticed the same thing i did & thought like i did till someone brought it up in church. Then i noticed when the cycle was back to wher it rose while i was outside, that it jumped at least 15 degrees from the point a week earlier. There is a building across the street that it was rising midway through, then all the sudden far left of the building. Like a winter then summer soltice within a week! its crazy!
@smadaman101 The moon can move through the same cycle as the sun does in a year, but in only a month. You actually have a piss poor understanding of astronomy, regardless of what you would like to think. You have way more ego than wisdom or knowledge. This is a waste of time.
@menow20000 i now know another reason why the Book of Enoch was taken out, it explains how Noah new the time was soon when he noticed the moon wasnt right. I just read this last week&remembered the scripture that says. As it was in the days of Noah, it will be in the last days. I bet there is a massive body headed our way to cause the tribulation period, as it caused the flood that im willing to bet was 3600 years ago as the orbit was described by the Sumerians. no such thing as coincidence
@menow20000 True, but i dont believe the ancient lien theory anyways. Its just that many do believe these things and thats all that matters. Sumerians lived in what the Bible refers to as Babylon, no coincidence that its THEIR language that was lost. Its all explained, like them, all you do is "babble on" in my opinion and miss the point. It doesnt matter if you cant just add (even though one shift was double digits itself!) since my argument is that the tilt is much more! IM DENSE!?
@smadaman101 One shift was "double digits"? WTF are you talking about? What does "double digits" even mean? What am I supposed to "add"? Go ahead and MAKE A POINT, if you can. You have shown ZERO concrete evidence that Earth has "tilted". There are EASY ways to test it, and there are MANY vids of Polaris showing that you are wrong. How is that "babbling"?
@menow20000 Double digits= Wiki it bro, the estimates are something like Chille centemeters to 3 inches, cant remember if Christchurch was 1 or how much, & i think Japans was the 1 that varied from 3 to over 10 inches. been a while since i looked it up though. I know for a fact that the high side of 1 estimate was double digits though! Besides,why do i need to prove it to you? Christ himself appearing right in front of you isnt enough proof he exists to your type, i know a brick wall when i c it
@smadaman101 You said that ONE quake was "double digits". You mean Japan? You mean shift in axis? Those were THEORETICAL ESTIMATES, not MEASURED changes, and what is your point? Do you actually think they ADD UP? Do you actually think that each earthquake shifts Earth's axis in the SAME DIRECTION? Use your head. These type of tiny shifts have been happening for millenia. They are nothing new. Why are you freaking out about it?
@menow20000 Dude, i already explained this. The estimates of the shift are not my concern, since my point is that the shift is actually much more drastic! In the unlikely possibility(in your view)that I am right(as many others)do you think that they would feed this info? dont u think they wouldnt want a mass panic? Also, I am not "freaking out" the only reason i bring it up is to inform, so that when they see i was right, they will look to the Bible for answers. Why else would i waist time w/ u?
@menow20000 All you do is find part of my comment to argue with and flee from the actual topic. A closed mind is a wasted one, and those who walk with their eyes closed never see the fire in front of them. You can throw all the names you want bro, i dont waist time letting words from mainstream believers bother me. Its no secret that the media is controlled, a good example is the current protests. not shown on the news till they had no choice, since vids of maced inocent ppl went viral.
@smadaman101 "Flee from the actual topic"?? What have I avoided?? Please be SPECIFIC. Why are you bringing up the MEDIA? Where have I cited "the media" as a source of information? It is YOU who are taking media stuff and reading between the lines. That is fine, but it is just that much more vague innuendo with nothing concrete to back it up. What names have I thrown? What are you talking about? You aren't making sense at all.
@menow20000 Names? you called me "dense" for one, your memory cant be that bad. It doesnt matter to me though, you have been trying to make me look dumb the whole time. I consider mainstream knowledge from credited astronomers to be media in a form. I refuse to take what they claim to believe as gospel as you do, only bc i know for a fact that something evil lurks behind the curtain. Those who rise are the ones who bow down, ones w/ a voice who dont, theyre silenced. Lincoln, Kenedys, so on..
@smadaman101 What is a "credited astronomer"? There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of amateur astronomers who would know if Earth's axis had shifted a quarter of a degree. You are paranoid if you think that could be hidden.
@menow20000 Credited astronomer may be a bad choice, popular is more like it. The kind that everyone knows if the love astronomy as i do & watch everything on the subject. And for the moon observations, i made a new one while just smoking. Its currently at the noon position where the sun would be in the summer. I live in TN so if ur on a close longitudinal line to me, look for yourself. Then look at the sun at noon tomorrow, itll be in a winter position (i know its fall). check it bro!
@smadaman101 So you really think the ecliptic is in the same place in the sky at night as it was the previous day? Heh... You are an arrogant (and ignorant) ass. I pity those who believe the tripe you spew.
@smadaman101 What makes you think that astronomers speak as a group? They are probably more rebellious and looking for things to "report" than most people. They would give their first-born to be the first to discover something like you think is happening. It is completely absurd to think they are being scared into remaining quiet. I wonder what organization you think exists that even could communicate such a threat to them all.
@menow20000 Oh & u wont see the traditional moon anymore. as in a side crescent moon w/ a slight tilt, its never like that anymore. Right now u will notice the shadowed portion will be on the bottom side as it sets, its always on top or bottom and never on the side anymore. which would make it rotated roughly 70 degrees, not explained w/ only a tilt. If its orbit has left the ecliptic, which explains the position with the sun, then that w/ a tilt would explain.moon=not on ecliptic fo sho!
@menow20000 You really dont think its odd that the moon never has a side shadow anymore? its even out of phase. Like i mentioned, dont you think we shoulda known the date of the previous new moon? i mean really, look around, watch what they actually do show on the news. Something is up, and im sure everyone feels it. im sure you just believe that all volcanoes usually have minor activity and our recent quakes r usual. You werent hinting @ quakes always tilting the axis were u? cause thats new!
@menow20000 You r right about astronomers, but did i mention them speaking as a group? Its not hidden either! you think im the only 1 saying this? what the hell? you even told me of someone i hadnt heard of claiming it! Are u trolling for the fun of it or what? i dont understand where u r coming from & doubt you r lacking a life so much that you spend all day arguing on yt. For big name astronomers with a voice, refer to the purpose of my previous media controlled comment! that hard to believe?
@smadaman101 I find something in what you say to comment on because none of your details hold water. You want to throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and see what sticks, but NONE of your "facts" are valid when it gets down to concrete evidence. It's ALL rumor, innuendo, implication, maybe, conspiracy, unfounded opinion, untrained observation, uneducated opinion, and the like. You read conspiracy into EVERYTHING.
@menow20000 untrained observation? i was about to test your knowledge but its pointless on a computer. I would do circles around u in a astronomy debate any day bro! unless we got into the mathmatics side of it. I bet you dont even know anything other than basic knowledge on Newton! Father of calculus, discoverer of how gravity works, but what about his unpublished work. Cant pass any hints or you will google, what else did he work on & believe? Dang, thats probably too much of a searchable clue
@smadaman101 Circles around me in astronomy? Didn't you post this?: "The sun and moon are on the same ecliptic plane, therefore they should set in the same place within 5 degrees."
NO, THEY SHOULD NOT. The ecliptic does not hold still and remain in the same location on the horizon between the setting times of the sun and the moon! You are trying to imagine how things are, but you are actually clueless.
@menow20000 They would feel the need to test if they had someone trolling them that obviously has less knowledge on the topic. You have done nothing but repeat questions & recomend i talk to some1 who knows there astronomy. Thats an insult to someone who has been fascinated w/ the cosmos since they were a child. Who has studied it for years, & is always the 1 asked what theyre looking at. I have yet to personally meet any1 that shares my appreciation & passion of astronomy. thats why..
@menow20000 I bet you still believe like i did when i joined the NAVY, that we are over there in a war on terrorism. Yeah right! A 14 year old Russian girl opened my eyes back in 05, totally bashing my country that i couldnt defend. WHY? bc she was right, & knew more about my country than i did! Considering that even my education was controlled by the same ppl since i barely knew a thing about Russia. We applied our gov issued blinders as soon as we started school, w/ labels 4 thinkin otherwise
@smadaman101 "Russian girl"? We were talking about the sky. Why are you changing the subject? The government cannot control the world's astronomers. I corrected you on some of your misconceptions about the ecliptic and you didn't even respond. I don't care to ramble off-subject. Either respond to astronomical things or talk to somebody else.
@menow20000 Theres nothing u can do, but think about it bro. 1% own the majority of the worlds wealth. That is a lot of money, & theyre the ones behind the curtain. They control our education, media, gov, economy, entertainment, & pretty much everything in your life. Its my personal belief that its bout to hit the fan. Too many ppl had their eyes opened by the zeitgeist movement & walked right into the trap! Mark my words, martial law/police state will be justified & u will find conspiracy CONT.
@smadaman101 You can have all the personal opinions you want about politics and control and the like. I have no argument there. It is when you start making claims about the physical world which are just false that I react. Your beliefs about the supposed "changes" in Earth's tilt are just ridiculous. If Earth really was "wobbling" as you think, most of us would already be dead. You just can't flop a water planet around without having oceans washing over continents. Why don't you GET that??
i just liked the title of this video lol
StillbornGravity 2 days ago
Excellent Video
612gideon 2 days ago
Love how people who work out in the elements are more aware and are more knowledgable about the environment than cubicle bunnies. Taking notice of the environment/looking up into the sky is...just not done anymore. People would rather look Down at their iPads...smdh
swtbrry32 1 week ago
@swtbrry32 Its true though, I work outside all day as a land surveyor in Canada. I am constantly looking up at the sky, clouds, sun. Ahem planes. The suns intensity feels different to me. Almost brighter. But that is just me.
1980viracochas 1 week ago
The internal pulse of the Earth is getting faster and faster also. This is true "time". "and time will speed up" sound familiar?
glittermama0203 1 week ago
Eerily close to Yellowstone volcano timeline.
pillowbugg 1 week ago
A magnetic pole shift doesn't have anything to do with a PHYSICAL shift of the earth. It simply means the magnetic field is moving and it has done this thousands of times on Earth since the beginning. It doesn't pose a threat to human civilization. The only threat would be with aviation. Eventually north will become south on our compass but the earth itself never moves. People really need to learn the difference. The earth cannot flip upside down physically. It's very complex geography/astronomy
foghaze 2 weeks ago
Don't you mean Shit is going to hit the fan?
DerpyTehMuffinz 2 weeks ago
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yesimdyslexicyoucunt 2 weeks ago
truth here. myinternetprodotcom
MichaelCarreras 2 weeks ago
the earth is hollow. lost tribes of isreal in them
LieutenantDangle1958 2 weeks ago
Get a compass and see for yourself. Magnet North has never been True North.
You all should have been a Boy Scout. The last shift over 700 million years ago ? Now how the heck would we know that? Were you around then or maybe your great,great,great super great ancestors were ?? duh. This video lacks real substance.
semtech30 3 weeks ago
@semtech30 When flowing lava hits water it hardens quickly and locks in a sort of snap shot of the earths magnetism and direction. Geologist take samples of these and have found that the magnetism has reversed going back through our history, and not just once but multiple times.
RevolutionRequired 2 weeks ago
@RevolutionRequired Wouldn't gravity be stronger than polar magnatism?? or maybe the force of water given the direction the lava it was hit? So many probabilities.
Right now the shift is getting closer to True North. I don't see a problem with that.
No reason to put up disaster alarm. When it gets to Russia they will claim it as theirs, he,he,.
semtech30 2 weeks ago
@semtech30 here put this after youtube . com/ watch?v=pGKKzsRjJ_Y
Or search NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?
It is a documentary explaining the science behind how the particles inside the rock formations align to the magnetic field and would be unaffected by gravity or the force of the water. Its accepted science that pole shifts have occurred in the past, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
RevolutionRequired 2 weeks ago
but it is REALLY north........ no matter where it is........ so dumb
ElHasZardo 1 month ago
there will be signs in the sun the moon and earth. It is close at hand, those who believe in lies better get themselves right while you still can
God said he will take away the fowls of heavans Dead birds falling from the sky, and fishes from the sea, millions of dead fish turned up on beaches of norway.stop following false PROFITS = TV evangalists. Just get yourself right with god. Those who relish in lies will be destroyed.
lobrienish 1 month ago
@Astrosurfer333 i notice trolls by their clothes and tiny demeanor
EatAllYourFish 1 month ago
I like marmite
Drofpmasssor 1 month ago
When the earthquake happened in D.C. and other states a few months ago I felt the pole shift to the left. Time is short and complete and utter decimation is coming. This is God's wrath for sin against him. Only a few will make it out. Im not a conspiracy theorist. Im a servant of Jesus Christ and im telling you this stuff is real. Something is happening almost everyday all around the world. This will continue. Repent and turn to your creator. Read the holy bible.
boywhoy88 1 month ago
@boywhoy88 amen ,our redemption draws nigh.. come Lord Jesus
shamgar12 1 month ago
@shamgar12 Amen, keep the strong faith and communication with Jesus of nazereth. Amen
boywhoy88 1 month ago
Everyone will die! Fagots, lesbians, anarchist, conspirators, and Americans FIRST!
rugto 1 month ago
Erm... This a gradual process, not a sudden shift. This will take thousands of years for this to happen.
KittyKandyKat 1 month ago
@KittyKandyKat NASA ran a super computer simulation and indeed the shift takes around a thousand years on average.
mitsukai89 1 month ago
ok guys not only are you guys headed across the plan of are galaxy but also around a spiral arm of are galaxcy. Then you have the SUN. Then you have a radiation belt we are going through. Then you have electro-megnetic energy discrupting birds and fish brains. Makeing them go crazy or go into shock. There is some much going on al at once. The thing is you don't need to know. If you can't figure it out then why would you need to know? WHY/ so you can have a over population when food is hard toget
killerbee04x 2 months ago
If this is correct the sun would be the cause, along with other magnetic bodies in our solar system moving towards and away from earth, they can act like strong magnets amplifying, and weakening or degrading others. Think of putting two magnets next to each other when they are opposite poles they attract but sometimes when they are the same they repel each other and can cause one to filp around so they would "stick together"
cblazer 2 months ago
we would be if this is all true and not a normal wobble of the poles,(not switching but just wondering miles in circles) then this will also affect our mental abilities, making the entire earth go threw a bipolar phase where the world will seem like it is ass backwards. Use your own moral compass so to speak:)
cblazer 2 months ago
so the reporters are saying the magnetic poles are shifting, but what these people that are interwiewed are describing is a physical shift of entire continents? or the entire planet?
immamonster78 2 months ago
@immamonster78 I have theorized that the magnetic pole shift is creating a physical "wobble" of the planet. Not so much noticeable at sunrise, but more at sunset. Cliff Mickelson has done more research regarding this.
hereitcomesskippy 2 months ago 2
@hereitcomesskippy Gads! Clif Mickleson... I haven't seen that name for years- since way back when Nancy Lieder was quoting him as a source for proof of her silly claims. I'd guess he is as full of shit now as he was in 2001or so.
mr1ssssmith 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy The Bible says the earth WILL wobble like a drunk man!
glittermama0203 1 week ago
Well, lucky for me I don't regard the opinion of those who just blatantly tell me I'm wrong very seriously. If I did, I never would have found out as much as I have. Thanks for the pseudoreply.
hereitcomesskippy 2 months ago
Great video.Thanks.
cahoonu 2 months ago
more erie music plz!
BeantownJim 2 months ago
Right so it's definately not global warming but a shift in alignment with the sun which would explain why the north pole is shrinking while the southern pole is growing in thickness.We are also entering a more dangerous area of the galaxy as we move above the plain which happens every 26 thousand yrs or so Go to Lpac tv or look up Lyndon Larouche for better explanation on the science!
2wheels88 2 months ago
@2wheels88 There has been no shift in Earth's alignment with the sun. It's nothing but uninformed fear-mongering. "Look up Lyndon Larouche" for the science??? Hilarious!
hammaann 2 months ago
@hammaann Yeah Ok it's EVIL Co2 warming the planet .Yeah Right!
2wheels88 2 months ago
@2wheels88 What does climate change have to do with the movement of the magnetic north pole?
hammaann 2 months ago
@hammaann Everything. Go to google and type in "1845 Journal Skippy".
hereitcomesskippy 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Wrong. Pure imagination and pseudoscience. The location of the magnetic north pole has little or no effect on Earth's overall weather.
hammaann 2 months ago
@hammaann Absolutely nothing and that's my point.greenies seem to blame everything and anything on global warming and so i was just pointing out that this phenomenon has nothing to do with it.
2wheels88 2 months ago
Nature rules. Thankfully.
Imagine Congress or parliament if it could influence global climate. That would be horrendous.
Thankfully, Nature rules.
GalileoMovement 2 months ago
what people don't understand is that this isn't an, "End of the World" scenario. this is just a natural system that the planet depends on. hell you can even watch an episode of Nova on the PBS station and it'll tell you that poll shifts are a natural occurrence. at best we'll have some radio interference, a few satellites won't calibrate right and we might lose the Internet for a few days. at worst a full communications black out but not the world cracking in half >,<
legendarytoyou 2 months ago
one day they said it was gonna rain it was sunny, when they said it was not going to snow it snows, get the fuck out of here man made instriments just like everything else has flaws
ninendowii2000 3 months ago
bullshit ,, faulty manufacturing is more like it bitch ,you think everything is perfect a weather man cant even tell you the weather! thats how bullshit instriments are ,
ninendowii2000 3 months ago
dude........................
jay4201203461003 3 months ago
the moon has been looking strange the last few nights usually the shadow is left to right but lately has been from top to bottom
fawkUtube 3 months ago
@fawkUtube what moon??
MrMBB333 2 months ago
@Astrosurfer333 You are correct. Menow has been following this video and topic around all over the internet. I believe he has been "assigned" this topic to discredit. He works alongside characters like Astromut who can somehow manage to post replies on numerous message board topics 24 hours a day. How does one person do that?
hereitcomesskippy 3 months ago 7
@hereitcomesskippy You are welcome to explain what "credit" this topic deserves. It's being used to claim that the sun and Moon are out of place in the sky. People who like astronomy don't like to see those type of lies being perpetuated. No one who likes astronomy has to be "assigned" to the subject in order to take time to try to correct the lies.
menow20000 3 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy I certainly don't post "24 hours a day". That is just another lie on your part- just like the lie that the movement of magnetic north is related to a shift in Earth's PHYSICAL axis of rotation. Of course you don't respond to points of discussion like this, you just call the poster a "troll" and block them.
menow20000 3 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Exactly... how does one person do that? ;-)
weebles777 2 months ago
@weebles777 One person is posting 24 hours a day? Simply not true. You can't show where that person is posting 24 hours a day because it didn't happen. Skippy lied.
There is nothing to "discredit" about this topic, but there are corrections to the false fear-mongering. Earth's magnetic poles are shifting and always have. Earth's PHYSICAL poles are NOT shifting. The two are not related.
hammaann 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy I am horrified about this astromut dwed. I only recently learnt that he is a mega troll.. or was or whatever. That could be why people are so weary of me because our nics are similar. Perhaps they think we are the same. I am very upset about this as I am very fond of my avatar and name. I don’t particularly want to change it just because of one persons stuff ups. Sigh. There is always a handful of people that spoil it for the rest of the world. Bastids! >.<
Astrosurfer333 1 month ago
cotinental drift?
JustinKennith 3 months ago
@JustinKennith That would be an effect not the cause.
hereitcomesskippy 3 months ago
@Astrosurfer333 It is pretty obvious that people "lack an education" when they freak out over a shift in the magnetic poles and think it means Earth's physical poles are shifting. What would you say is the purpose of this vid, other than hysterical fear-mongering?
menow20000 3 months ago
how would the compass become innacurate if the north pole changes??? It would still read north no matter where it was. Dumb fucking moron bitch
ChrisW12208 4 months ago
the earth is slowing up to stop spinnin and then it will spin back in the other direction n then back again like it did before like it says in the "bible"
MrSuperHuD 4 months ago
Wow, plenty of youtubers in denial. Peace out people.
thesacredarts 4 months ago
@thesacredarts Plenty of youtubers in denial of what? Please do be specific.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 You might want to check out the cornell university study's on the moon tinyurl dot com/47aqfou and why is your chan unavailalbe?
Astrosurfer333 3 months ago
@Astrosurfer333 Why would I want to check that out? First, it was not "Cornell University" who originated it. Second, it speaks of an alleged MINISCULE change in the Moon's orbit- on the order of a few centimeters a year. Exactly what are you attempting to read into that?
menow20000 3 months ago
@menow20000 troll much? Didnt I block you? hmm Im very sure I did. oh well
Astrosurfer333 3 months ago
even if so, what can you/anyone do about it. nothing. not a darn thing. i guess you can prepare for any dangers one may think may come, but thats about it.
Gizziiusa 4 months ago
magnetic poles can go fuck themselves
marsh84722 4 months ago
@marsh84722 LOL! Love the comment, especially in the midst of this "battle" between Menow and Smadaman. Made me laugh, thanks!!!
wwwRODcom 3 months ago
Fucken Eskimos!!!!!
6PcMcSuckits 5 months ago
@JKaizen75 If you operate in a golf ball size consciousness and read a book, you will have a golf ball size understanding of it. I'm sure your mother did not breast feed you when you were young. Your brain has not developed, maybe you should hit the malls and keep buying more stuff. I feel sorry for you. peace.
3rdEyeBizzare 5 months ago
@3rdEyeBizzare tl;dr, I like turtles.
JKaizen75 5 months ago
@JKaizen75 hahaha....im sure you do...keep the love healthy...peace out
3rdEyeBizzare 5 months ago
@JKaizen75 i see where you are coming from, there is a difference from a magnetic shift and axis shift, but you are wrong to think these guys wouldnt know a axis tilt when they see one. they are one of the few that still look at the skies for daily life! never jump to the chance to call someone dumb, and hate is a poison brother. i pray that you open those eyes god gave you so u can see the truth, god bless!
smadaman101 5 months ago
@smadaman101 Then why have no astronomers spoken up about a shift in Earth's axis? Why don't you go to any local astronomy club, university or planetarium and acquire a clue?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Almost all amateur astronomers use electronic positioning software. The coordinates for that software comes from government owned satellites. The numbers have been adjusted so that everything adds up. The amateur astronomers don't know that anything is out of the ordinary. I imagine the change is more noticeable near the poles as well and there aren't that many people living there to comment. If you don't think that the government cooks the books. Think again.
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy So it's all covered by a vast conspiracy? That is about as insightful as your suggestion that things are more out of place in the sky when observed from near the poles. If you think the government can control the functioning of "almost all" telescopes you're either dreaming or paranoid.
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Continued: I wonder how you explain the fact that sunrise locations and times, eclipses, transits, etc, etc, found in books printed decades ago agree with the modern data.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 I have a Farmer's almanac calendar and the times for sunrise and sunset are off. I suppose you have checked all these old books yourself? The governement controls the satellites, they control the numbers. I believe the Inuits.
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy I strongly suspect that you don't know how to read the almanac or compensate for local topography or the variation in sunrise times over the width of time zones. Satellites have nothing to do with the functioning of telescopes. Do you really think you have discovered something the world's astronomers have missed? Really?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 No, I think the inuit have and the rest is being kept from us.
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy The Inuit "have"? Have what? No one can "keep" the sky from the world's astronomers. Just because YOU know nothing about the sky, that doesn't mean others are as ignorant.
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy By the way... you didn't say how far the sunrise times are allegedly "off". The Inuits say that Earth's poles have shifted, hmm? Well, all you have to do to prove the world's astronomers wrong and the Inuit right is to take a time-exposure of the north star over a few hours and show that it is no longer the center of rotation for the northern sky. I have been challenging people to do that for years and no one has ever done it. Maybe you'll be the first. Not holding breath.
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy I suggest you do a search for "telescope electronic positioning software" and see what results you get. You actually have no idea how modern telescopes operate or the abilities of the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers around the world.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Oh, you're part of the Astronut group.... I remember now. We've had a long debate on this already. Interesting how you keep finding me.... How many people are you anyhow? I'm just one and I am Skippy.
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy "Group"? I am part of no "group". I am just someone who knows a bit about astronomy, as opposed to you, who is obviously just guessing. You just make up random things and imagine they are "facts", like this "electronic positioning software" crap you just spouted.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 What do u think i was talking bout being wrong about!? good god man...
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 If the Inuit think Earth's axis has shifted, they are wrong since it has not happened to any degree visible by eye. Therefor, so are you, wrong.
menow20000 3 months ago
@menow20000 Dude, I am not worried about this topic anymore. Maybe the translators intentionally mistranslated what the guys were saying. I was wrong about sun and moon setting the same point on the horizon, you were right. Let it go man...At least I learned something new. When it comes to that aspect of astronomy, I admit I'm not that great. It's annoying when someone can't stop when the other admits being wrong. It shows a lack of sportsmanship, & u got me all wrong btw. debating = ego, to u?
smadaman101 3 months ago
@smadaman101 After adamantly claiming that the Moon is way out of place in the sky, now you're suddenly "not worried" about this topic anymore and complaining about me? Priceless!
Here is something you continued to claim: "That doesnt change the fact that there IS something different lately."
OK... WHAT is different? Are you still talking about the locations of objects in the sky? Please be specific.
menow20000 3 months ago
@menow20000 I dont mean stop debating, I mean the other stuff. "You wrong about this? admit that" "Theyre wrong, so are you" and that stuff. I went back and read and saw where some confusion occurred. I was new to debates and didnt realize that the comments went under the ones you click reply on when you view them like this. that's why I drifted topics some...Doesn't change the fact I can tell you look like a gorilla toothed, mega dork, with a stanky skanky taint! :P You know that was funny.....
smadaman101 3 months ago
@menow20000 and menow???. . .I'm sure it is me now, but I always imaging a cat with the ability to pronounce the letter n and add it to meow in the year 20000. Just thought I would throw that out there. At least I dont call ppl nincompoops! Wow..no red squiglies under nincompoop!?
smadaman101 3 months ago
@menow20000 Well they have! 3 recent earthquakes have changed our tilt by inches they claim, Mitchu is one that springs to mind, Astrophysicist tho. I prefer my observations and knowledge of things like, the moon and sun are on the same eliptic plane +/- 5 degrees. Yet if you look as of late, theres way more than a 5 degree difference. Not to mention the fact that the moon doesnt do its gradual soltice move which is usually similar to the sun. it jumped at least 15 degree in a week not long ago.
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 It's actually the shifting of our Earth's physical axis that is causing the earthquakes. Don't let the media fool you. It's a lot more than inches too. The entire country of Japan has moved over 10 feet and has had magnitude 5 earthquakes on a daily basis since March 11th. They have probably moved more than we are told. It's so bad that Japan is offering free airfare just to go over there. No one wants to...
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy "It's actually the shifting of our Earth's physical axis that is causing the earthquakes." Nice theory, but you can't show that Earth's axis has shifted, because it hasn't. Polaris is still right where it belongs and sunrise/set is right where it belongs. You are welcome to study the Katcam archives from past years and compare to now. They have a search function so you can check any sunset you like.
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy "It's a lot more than inches too". All you have to do it take a time lapse of Polaris. Easy-peasy.... You won't ever do it.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 What's stranger to me is that you won't do it. You are the astronomy buff, the knowitall. Your team has been arguing a point for years but you don't show the proof. I don't have time lapse equipment. Why don't you, Mr. Astronomy expert get with Astronut or dog and make the time lapse video and post it on Youtube? I would love to check it out. Then you could retire with your other astronomy cronies to the bar for a drink knowing you did a job well done and disproved all us "suntards".
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy I won't do it? I'm not the one who thinks Earth's axis has shifted. I can point to any number of resources showing that nothing is out of place. I am suggesting an EASY way for YOU to prove you are right, yet YOU WON'T DO IT. I know you won't because this challenge has gone untaken for some 5 years now. If you DID do it, it would prove you wrong. There are LOTS of sky trails images being taken ALL THE TIME, and they ALL prove you wrong. I'm just telling you how to test. DO IT!
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy "We" have shown proof over and over and over again and you just ignore it! Astronut has made vid after vid after vid over at GLP showing the conspiracy theories wrong. You just IGNORE them. Do you want ME to search for timelaps vids of Polaris FOR you? There are LOTS of them, you nincompoop!
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 That would be super. One from the past 2 years please. I already searched.
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy You searched and couldn't find the ones I found? Idiot.
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Fucking retard.
watch?v=b-K27dobryk
watch?v=0vTMsCQ9RCs
watch?v=YMhD64xg3XI
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 You inspired me to upload a new video. Your 3 videos had no good point of reference and were too short. I made one showing Polaris wandering away from it's supposed stable position in the sky. Thanks for the inspiration.
watch?v=DuGate8ZeTg
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy The point of reference is the pattern of stars. If you knew the first thing about astronomy, you could tell it's Polaris. I did that search in all of two minutes. If you want longer vids, FIND THEM!
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 I did already, pay attention. Notice Polaris wander away from the tip of the tree. This was taken 4 days ago:
watch?v=DuGate8ZeTg
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy The claim is that things are many degrees out of place, skippy. That vid shows no such thing. It shows Polaris to be right where it belongs.
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Where did that come from. REALLY hard to see much, but what you can see confirms that Polaris is right where it belongs- a tiny angular distance from the center of rotation. NO one said that Polaris doesn't move at all. You are just imagining more fubar astronomy.
menow20000 4 months ago
By the way, what is YOUR "point of reference" in the vid and how do you know that is Polaris?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 I really got you worked up? Aren't you neglecting your other forum posts? Call for backup!!!
hereitcomesskippy 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Is that how you dodge questions?
menow20000 4 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Good one, showing the whole night and the small circle Polaris describes in the sky. There are any number of these you care to find, including the one you posted which all show that Earth's is not "wobbling".
watch?v=PhVGKKEMk4g&feature=related
menow20000 4 months ago
@smadaman101 What does a theoretical 3 inch shift in Earth's axis have to do with anything observable? Nothing at all.
I'm willing to bet good money that you don't have the slightest clue where the ecliptic is in the sky at any given time. The moon always makes the same variation in a month as the sun does in a year. You are clueless about astronomy, yet deciding something is "wrong" in the sky. Typical.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 That was just where i left off from the previous comment, i didnt have room. You obviously dont understand what i said. The sun and moon are on the same ecliptic plane, therefore they should set in the same place within 5 degrees. If my friend & i measured a difference of 20 degrees then they arent on the same ecliptic. this is a recent observation unrelated to the tilt, as if what ever caused the tilt also effected the orbit of the moon. I dont care of other beliefs, too little time
smadaman101 4 months ago
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@smadaman101 "The sun and moon are on the same ecliptic plane, therefore they should set in the same place within 5 degrees."
NO, THEY SHOULD NOT. The ecliptic does not hold still and remain in the same location on the horizon between the setting times of the sun and the moon! You are trying to imagine how things are, but you are actually clueless.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Ok, someone spammed the 1 you claim discredited my knowledge of the ecliptic plane. I was able to read it though, & i have to say, it shows a lack of knoledge on the subject in your part. Like the "clockwork mentioned, summer & winter soltice appear on the same point of the horizon each year. Ancients marked the point for agricultural reasons (my theory is for change notification). For the time between sun & moon settings in a day/night, will NOT be a visible difference naturallyCONT
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 "For the time between sun & moon settings in a day/night, will NOT be a visible difference". Heh. Nonsense. There can be many degrees of movement of where the ecliptic intersects the horizon in just a few hours. I have no idea why someone who claims to have studied astronomy for a number of years wouldn't know that.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Oh pleeeease explain how it changes in hours? i gotta hear this! With your idea of the ecliptic, the sun wouldnt be a gradual daily shift from one soltice to the other! the only thing, as i explained, that changes the setting points is the relation of earth in its orbit due to its tilt! Nothing else naturally! Unless you think the earth NATURALLY wobbles, come on man! i explained my claim as i claimed it. Why cant u? Oh thats right i appear arogant to u, since the trolling failed :)
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 Explain how the ecliptic changes location on the horizon in hours? Earth rotates, you insuffereable nincompoop! Earth certainly doesn't need to "wobble" to make it happen. You REALLY have no idea what you're talking about.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 The natural tilt of the earth changes the position, which only changes ecliptic perspective as the earth revolves around the sun. Mid summer at summer soltice in N hemisphere which is Winter in the Southern. So 182.5 days between winter and summer soltices, or half a revolution round the sun. So, within the time the two set in a given day, there isnt but a minute natural difference. Therefore, something is wrong when there is a 20 degree difference in setting points.
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 If the ecliptic is HIGH in the sky on the daytime side of Earth, it's LOW in the sky on the night time side. Hard to believe you don't understand this. Wait.. no, it's not hard to believe. It fits right into the other nonsense you have to believe to think the moon is not acting normally.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 You could be right about that one, its hard to prove it without a globe. hmm??? nope need a globe, but im just giving u the benefit of the doubt is all. Never said i knew it all. That doesnt change the fact that there IS something different lately. Thats the only thing im wrong about if that is the case. That just makes it that much harder for the average person to notice it. I was messing with the whole troll bit btw, & sorry 4 coming cross as arrogant, i like debates not arguments.
smadaman101 4 months ago
@menow20000 Some have tried to prove the sun is setting in the wrong place, which i believe. The problem is, they use a compass to do it. Magnetic North is drifting (i believe bc the axis is) so compasses are inacurate. Pilots had to have them adjusted, which was on the news! They couldnt blackout that info for 2 reasons. You cant silence every pilot, plus, many ppl have compasses. It caused a big deal at 1st, pilots actually flew off course. I figured they used newer tech by now!
smadaman101 4 months ago
@menow20000 Its more than 3 "theoretical" inches btw. that was only one of the quakes, add the estimated amount of the 3 and its in the double digits. You asked if any astronomers supported it, and u obviously knew about it. Why you arguing then?
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 Yes, it was THEORETICAL, not MEASURED. You think that every earthquake would shift the axis in the same direction and "add up"? Gawd you're dense.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 I KNOW that isnt right! plus, its all over the news about the recent magnetic shift, what do you think would happen if the actual pole changed? I know they are blaming it on other things, but dont be the type to believe the mainstream bro. if they admitted to inches, theres no telling of what the truth is. my friend Sally and i measured a 20 degree difference between where the sun & moon set the other day. which a tilt doesnt explain, but a gravitational interference may explain it
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 You know WHAT isn't right? You think the sun and moon are supposed to set in the same place as each other? Why? What does the news about a magnetic shift have to do with this?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Other things that are explained by a shift, the soltices & moon phases have always been like clockwork. Why is it that the sun came up days earlier than it was suppose to in the north pole? Also, the Hebrew calender is set by moon phases instead of a 365 revolution around the sun. the phases were charted long ago & were acurate till recently. It was just another confirmation when the feast of trumpet new moon was days off from predicted. the 29th of sept instead of 27th, i think
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 The sun did not "come up early". That is just one more hysterical internet rumor. Everything you cite is of the same caliber and validity- none at all. Everything IS still like clockwork- internet hysteria notwithstanding. There has been no "shift".
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Just saw the sun didnt come up early comment. How can you claim its hysteria? That is an assumption, and i did my research b4 repeating it. Let me guess, u went to one website that denied it & you believed it? That IS one thing im not positive on, but im 90% sure its true from looking it up AFTER i noticed things myself & looked to see if it was abnormal. Not the other way around. I didnt see a vid and repeat, i observed THEN went to see if anyone else was seeing the things i saw.
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 I didn't claim that the people seeing the supposed "early sun" were subject to hysteria. The REPEATING of that story as proof of a poleshift is due to hysteria. That phenomenon is not new at all and has been known to cause the sun to SEEM to rise as much as two weeks early. It's called the Novaya Zemlya effect and is not uncommon at all.
menow20000 4 months ago
@smadaman101 You said: "...but im 90% sure its true from looking it up AFTER i noticed things myself & looked to see if it was abnormal." WHAT is abnormal? Please be SPECIFIC!
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 My very 1st observation was the crescent moon 1 day was upside down i guess u can say. in the position of a bowl, & im a night owl smoker who watches the moon and stars every night. I though, "uh? i dont remember this b4? i thought it was just in my head that it wasnt usual at 1st, then my aunt started telling me that she thought we were in the last days. She went on to explain the Virgo astrological fullfillment of revelations, quakes @ volcanism like she had never seen, & the CONT
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 " My very 1st observation was the crescent moon 1 day was upside down i guess u can say. in the position of a bowl".
Nothing abnormal about that.
Next?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 time since she can remember the moon looking like it does. Had her explain, She noticed the same thing i did & thought like i did till someone brought it up in church. Then i noticed when the cycle was back to wher it rose while i was outside, that it jumped at least 15 degrees from the point a week earlier. There is a building across the street that it was rising midway through, then all the sudden far left of the building. Like a winter then summer soltice within a week! its crazy!
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 The moon can move through the same cycle as the sun does in a year, but in only a month. You actually have a piss poor understanding of astronomy, regardless of what you would like to think. You have way more ego than wisdom or knowledge. This is a waste of time.
A dios.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 i now know another reason why the Book of Enoch was taken out, it explains how Noah new the time was soon when he noticed the moon wasnt right. I just read this last week&remembered the scripture that says. As it was in the days of Noah, it will be in the last days. I bet there is a massive body headed our way to cause the tribulation period, as it caused the flood that im willing to bet was 3600 years ago as the orbit was described by the Sumerians. no such thing as coincidence
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 You mean Z. Sichen SAID that's what the Sumerian's said. Pure malarkey. NO real Sumerian scholar agrees with him. NONE.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 True, but i dont believe the ancient lien theory anyways. Its just that many do believe these things and thats all that matters. Sumerians lived in what the Bible refers to as Babylon, no coincidence that its THEIR language that was lost. Its all explained, like them, all you do is "babble on" in my opinion and miss the point. It doesnt matter if you cant just add (even though one shift was double digits itself!) since my argument is that the tilt is much more! IM DENSE!?
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 One shift was "double digits"? WTF are you talking about? What does "double digits" even mean? What am I supposed to "add"? Go ahead and MAKE A POINT, if you can. You have shown ZERO concrete evidence that Earth has "tilted". There are EASY ways to test it, and there are MANY vids of Polaris showing that you are wrong. How is that "babbling"?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Double digits= Wiki it bro, the estimates are something like Chille centemeters to 3 inches, cant remember if Christchurch was 1 or how much, & i think Japans was the 1 that varied from 3 to over 10 inches. been a while since i looked it up though. I know for a fact that the high side of 1 estimate was double digits though! Besides,why do i need to prove it to you? Christ himself appearing right in front of you isnt enough proof he exists to your type, i know a brick wall when i c it
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 You said that ONE quake was "double digits". You mean Japan? You mean shift in axis? Those were THEORETICAL ESTIMATES, not MEASURED changes, and what is your point? Do you actually think they ADD UP? Do you actually think that each earthquake shifts Earth's axis in the SAME DIRECTION? Use your head. These type of tiny shifts have been happening for millenia. They are nothing new. Why are you freaking out about it?
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Dude, i already explained this. The estimates of the shift are not my concern, since my point is that the shift is actually much more drastic! In the unlikely possibility(in your view)that I am right(as many others)do you think that they would feed this info? dont u think they wouldnt want a mass panic? Also, I am not "freaking out" the only reason i bring it up is to inform, so that when they see i was right, they will look to the Bible for answers. Why else would i waist time w/ u?
smadaman101 4 months ago
@menow20000 All you do is find part of my comment to argue with and flee from the actual topic. A closed mind is a wasted one, and those who walk with their eyes closed never see the fire in front of them. You can throw all the names you want bro, i dont waist time letting words from mainstream believers bother me. Its no secret that the media is controlled, a good example is the current protests. not shown on the news till they had no choice, since vids of maced inocent ppl went viral.
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 "Flee from the actual topic"?? What have I avoided?? Please be SPECIFIC. Why are you bringing up the MEDIA? Where have I cited "the media" as a source of information? It is YOU who are taking media stuff and reading between the lines. That is fine, but it is just that much more vague innuendo with nothing concrete to back it up. What names have I thrown? What are you talking about? You aren't making sense at all.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Names? you called me "dense" for one, your memory cant be that bad. It doesnt matter to me though, you have been trying to make me look dumb the whole time. I consider mainstream knowledge from credited astronomers to be media in a form. I refuse to take what they claim to believe as gospel as you do, only bc i know for a fact that something evil lurks behind the curtain. Those who rise are the ones who bow down, ones w/ a voice who dont, theyre silenced. Lincoln, Kenedys, so on..
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 What is a "credited astronomer"? There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of amateur astronomers who would know if Earth's axis had shifted a quarter of a degree. You are paranoid if you think that could be hidden.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Credited astronomer may be a bad choice, popular is more like it. The kind that everyone knows if the love astronomy as i do & watch everything on the subject. And for the moon observations, i made a new one while just smoking. Its currently at the noon position where the sun would be in the summer. I live in TN so if ur on a close longitudinal line to me, look for yourself. Then look at the sun at noon tomorrow, itll be in a winter position (i know its fall). check it bro!
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 So you really think the ecliptic is in the same place in the sky at night as it was the previous day? Heh... You are an arrogant (and ignorant) ass. I pity those who believe the tripe you spew.
menow20000 4 months ago
@smadaman101 What makes you think that astronomers speak as a group? They are probably more rebellious and looking for things to "report" than most people. They would give their first-born to be the first to discover something like you think is happening. It is completely absurd to think they are being scared into remaining quiet. I wonder what organization you think exists that even could communicate such a threat to them all.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Oh & u wont see the traditional moon anymore. as in a side crescent moon w/ a slight tilt, its never like that anymore. Right now u will notice the shadowed portion will be on the bottom side as it sets, its always on top or bottom and never on the side anymore. which would make it rotated roughly 70 degrees, not explained w/ only a tilt. If its orbit has left the ecliptic, which explains the position with the sun, then that w/ a tilt would explain.moon=not on ecliptic fo sho!
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 It must be fun, just inventing whatever astronomical "facts" you wish to believe are true.
Yawn.. I really need to go to bed, but it's so entertaining seeing just what utter nonsense you will come up with next.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 You really dont think its odd that the moon never has a side shadow anymore? its even out of phase. Like i mentioned, dont you think we shoulda known the date of the previous new moon? i mean really, look around, watch what they actually do show on the news. Something is up, and im sure everyone feels it. im sure you just believe that all volcanoes usually have minor activity and our recent quakes r usual. You werent hinting @ quakes always tilting the axis were u? cause thats new!
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 "You really dont think its odd that the moon never has a side shadow anymore?"
The moon has just as many "side shadows" as it ever had.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 You r right about astronomers, but did i mention them speaking as a group? Its not hidden either! you think im the only 1 saying this? what the hell? you even told me of someone i hadnt heard of claiming it! Are u trolling for the fun of it or what? i dont understand where u r coming from & doubt you r lacking a life so much that you spend all day arguing on yt. For big name astronomers with a voice, refer to the purpose of my previous media controlled comment! that hard to believe?
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 I find something in what you say to comment on because none of your details hold water. You want to throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and see what sticks, but NONE of your "facts" are valid when it gets down to concrete evidence. It's ALL rumor, innuendo, implication, maybe, conspiracy, unfounded opinion, untrained observation, uneducated opinion, and the like. You read conspiracy into EVERYTHING.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 untrained observation? i was about to test your knowledge but its pointless on a computer. I would do circles around u in a astronomy debate any day bro! unless we got into the mathmatics side of it. I bet you dont even know anything other than basic knowledge on Newton! Father of calculus, discoverer of how gravity works, but what about his unpublished work. Cant pass any hints or you will google, what else did he work on & believe? Dang, thats probably too much of a searchable clue
smadaman101 4 months ago
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@smadaman101 Circles around me in astronomy? Didn't you post this?: "The sun and moon are on the same ecliptic plane, therefore they should set in the same place within 5 degrees."
NO, THEY SHOULD NOT. The ecliptic does not hold still and remain in the same location on the horizon between the setting times of the sun and the moon! You are trying to imagine how things are, but you are actually clueless.
menow20000 4 months ago
@smadaman101 Why do you feel the need to compete and "test" me? No one who really has knowledge and appreciates astronomy would feel such a need.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 They would feel the need to test if they had someone trolling them that obviously has less knowledge on the topic. You have done nothing but repeat questions & recomend i talk to some1 who knows there astronomy. Thats an insult to someone who has been fascinated w/ the cosmos since they were a child. Who has studied it for years, & is always the 1 asked what theyre looking at. I have yet to personally meet any1 that shares my appreciation & passion of astronomy. thats why..
smadaman101 4 months ago
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@smadaman101 "They would feel the need to test if they had someone trolling them that obviously has less knowledge on the topic"
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menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 I bet you still believe like i did when i joined the NAVY, that we are over there in a war on terrorism. Yeah right! A 14 year old Russian girl opened my eyes back in 05, totally bashing my country that i couldnt defend. WHY? bc she was right, & knew more about my country than i did! Considering that even my education was controlled by the same ppl since i barely knew a thing about Russia. We applied our gov issued blinders as soon as we started school, w/ labels 4 thinkin otherwise
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 "Russian girl"? We were talking about the sky. Why are you changing the subject? The government cannot control the world's astronomers. I corrected you on some of your misconceptions about the ecliptic and you didn't even respond. I don't care to ramble off-subject. Either respond to astronomical things or talk to somebody else.
menow20000 4 months ago
@menow20000 Theres nothing u can do, but think about it bro. 1% own the majority of the worlds wealth. That is a lot of money, & theyre the ones behind the curtain. They control our education, media, gov, economy, entertainment, & pretty much everything in your life. Its my personal belief that its bout to hit the fan. Too many ppl had their eyes opened by the zeitgeist movement & walked right into the trap! Mark my words, martial law/police state will be justified & u will find conspiracy CONT.
smadaman101 4 months ago
@smadaman101 You can have all the personal opinions you want about politics and control and the like. I have no argument there. It is when you start making claims about the physical world which are just false that I react. Your beliefs about the supposed "changes" in Earth's tilt are just ridiculous. If Earth really was "wobbling" as you think, most of us would already be dead. You just can't flop a water planet around without having oceans washing over continents. Why don't you GET that??
menow20000 4 months ago