@BIGRSO10 You are right that is a variation of a judo hip throw. There are 3 levels of the judo hip throw. Low level is arm around the waist. Mid level is arm and hand at the shoulder blade like you see in this video. Hi level is throwing and arm bar and then taking down with the hip throw. That is what Professor Wally jay taught me.
@MrStarvy actually it should be much easier if you have a guy with a lot of height because you dont have to try too hard to get your hips under him they already are. but in any kind of grappling i will admit that it is very awkward rolling around with someone who has that much of a height advantage on you
In wrestling this is called a Hip toss. A shoulder Throw instead of the hip your under hook arm goes across to the other armpit and wraps around the same arm your over hand is controlling.
aah when i wrestled in junior high we would call a throw similar to this a cowboy, my coach would call it a cowboy throw. but it doesn't come from over under, the way i was taught you were supposed to grab over their shoulder and then pop your hips but its good to know different ways of doing the move
@TechnoMasterBoy the reason that it probably isnt working for you is that either you arent stepping in close enough or that you arent popping your hips when you go to throw. popping your hips gives you the explosiveness and leverage to make the throw
ive been doing karate for 6 years and after i watched this video n practiced it on my bro i was amazed because for once i hurt him before he could hurt me
Your'e stupid or have obviously never wrestled to know that this move takes time for you to develop your skills its not fake I've seen many pins and tis moved is often used in street fights. IT WORKS PRACTICE HARDER
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@BlueM0nk Ure right... But at the same time most judo moves are wrestling moves... For example this move is just a variation of a hip toss and is extremely common in wrestling... its done the same exact way. The only difference between Judo and Wrestling that I have noticed are that Judo involves a lot more trips, other than that the takedowns are basically the same... The only other difference is the rules for matches (submission vs. pinning)... Takedown wise: Judo = Wrestling pretty much
Wrestlefan1 Yah, your right too. when i think of wrestling i usually think of greco roman or shooting. sometimes i forget alot of its like judo. I noticed that some forms of wrestling share alot of judo moves (like you said save trips and what not, I took judo). wrestling uses alot of shoots and stuff, something i've never been too formfortable doing. What wrestling style is this?
@BlueM0nk It looks like freestyle wrestling i wrestled for four years, and practiced Judo and Jui Jitsu... I was a heavyweight... and was also very uncomfortable with shooting... I would actually implement my judo as my wrestling style... I would use trips in matches.. this was actually my favorite technique... and i still use it to this day... and actually some judo schools are incorperating shots into their style... Judo basically took wrestling and jiu jitsu and combined them into one style
well for one, the other guy could just drop his hips and mat return you. another thing is that you want to keep your head up cause thats most important in wrestling
itz a hipp toss well thats how we call it but i teach it like the ogishi where u get on your toes while tossing 2 pic him up a lil more. thats under greatmaster flavio behring.what would u guys say?
2 explain again bent ur kness feet together and push out from hip 2 stand on toes in end which needs more attention than pulling or throwing with arm....thats how i learned it wnd it works but would u say itz not necessary?
its called a lateral drop/throw in wrestling. Thats not a shoulder throw. The important thing you have to realize in this throw is that you only do it when the other person is pushing into you, otherwise when you step over to change your hips, you will get thrown and be and horrilbe postion. So only do this throw when some body is pushing into you.
You may want to check with your coach or at least do a youtube search. You'll find there is practically universal agreement on what a lateral drop is and it's not this.
it looks easy until the other guy is trying to out muscle you. cuz theres a possibility if you cross you leg like he said you can get thrown on your back.
its actually sort of a mix between a hip toss and shoulder throw this was one of my teammates best move on my team he showed to me and one point and ive used it in matches
what it does is put pressure on the joint in the soulder and your lifting in that spot while at the same time you also use your hips to help pull him over
on the contrary, the point of jui jitsu was to take down and manhandle larger opponents. Being as big as I am it's hard to tell someone size doesn't matter because it kind of does help in a lot of ways. But, for the most part skill wins. You HAVE TO TRAIN with someone tho and then spar to actually get better. Watching doesn't do much
Yeah, I agree, size doesn't really matter. I'm not much of a wrestler, more of a boxer and today I wrestled someone who has been doing it all of his life and weighs 50 pounds less than me and I was getting owned until he taught me some of the techniques.
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mtyd05 4 months ago
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Todlich1 5 months ago
hip toss...
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MGRodriguez1 7 months ago
DUDE THATS A HIP TOSS NOT A SHOULDER THROW.
BIGRSO10 7 months ago 4
@BIGRSO10 You are right that is a variation of a judo hip throw. There are 3 levels of the judo hip throw. Low level is arm around the waist. Mid level is arm and hand at the shoulder blade like you see in this video. Hi level is throwing and arm bar and then taking down with the hip throw. That is what Professor Wally jay taught me.
johnny102marvin 7 months ago
@BIGRSO10 yep
chwy7 5 months ago
Useful thank you
SkinnyDipper21 1 year ago
ufc is better
KABmagic17 1 year ago
@KABmagic17 umm u have nooo idea wtf ur talking about ...u should stop
jerodt9 1 year ago
@KABmagic17 hahahaha "ufc is better" do u know what is ufc noob?
lihaskuntotesti 10 months ago
@KABmagic17 take jerodt9 advice lol
demathastags13 10 months ago
These moves originated from Judo, please don't give credit to wrestling. Just because wrestling uses it does not mean its theres.
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this is fucking sick
jsolzz 1 year ago
You guys should start a fighting group or something if you dont have one yet.
ElMiachael7 1 year ago
This is one of my favorite throws, thumbs up if it's one of yours, too!
Zeferak 1 year ago 2
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Zeferak 1 year ago
Looks Alot Like an O Goshi
RhysBienaime345 1 year ago
@MrStarvy actually it should be much easier if you have a guy with a lot of height because you dont have to try too hard to get your hips under him they already are. but in any kind of grappling i will admit that it is very awkward rolling around with someone who has that much of a height advantage on you
timothyco12 1 year ago
you make it look effortless
javed86 1 year ago 3
judo throws are the best in mma. u risk alot when u go for a double take down or a shoot
gansterOG1 1 year ago
thanks brto
sILenCeDaNDg00Dbye 1 year ago
i tried to do this it kinda didnt work..
anerdwhatnow 1 year ago
lol my friend always tries to knock me down in the seat when i get on the bus imma get his ass today lol
tezztip 1 year ago
In wrestling this is called a Hip toss. A shoulder Throw instead of the hip your under hook arm goes across to the other armpit and wraps around the same arm your over hand is controlling.
Jameswill2005 1 year ago
aah when i wrestled in junior high we would call a throw similar to this a cowboy, my coach would call it a cowboy throw. but it doesn't come from over under, the way i was taught you were supposed to grab over their shoulder and then pop your hips but its good to know different ways of doing the move
cptprice14 1 year ago
@TechnoMasterBoy the reason that it probably isnt working for you is that either you arent stepping in close enough or that you arent popping your hips when you go to throw. popping your hips gives you the explosiveness and leverage to make the throw
jphil31892 1 year ago
kinda hard to do it with a 6'2 guy when im 5'6
MrStarvy 1 year ago
@MrStarvy
try a 6'3" when i'm 5'3"
diskdragon 1 year ago
ive been doing karate for 6 years and after i watched this video n practiced it on my bro i was amazed because for once i hurt him before he could hurt me
lukeypukey4 2 years ago
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Dude i tryed this on my friend both of em and it doesn't work this is so fake!
TechnoMasterBoy 2 years ago
Your'e stupid or have obviously never wrestled to know that this move takes time for you to develop your skills its not fake I've seen many pins and tis moved is often used in street fights. IT WORKS PRACTICE HARDER
haloisking117 2 years ago
Your retarded. dont try mma then its not for everyone.
priceybiscuit 2 years ago
@TechnoMasterBoy what a dumb comment
footba11fan41ife 1 year ago
man thank you for all the double takedowns and teckniques now when i spar my friends i use these double takedowns to takedown my friends thanks you for the videos.
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thanks guys, you do a nice job. Since i watch all your videos i´m going better. my coach ask me where do i now all that and i say well Charles Bishop explain very good, and he who is CB ?????? I say he is my Online Coach
alinnascu 2 years ago 24
looks more like a judo technique more than a wrestling one
BlueM0nk 2 years ago
@BlueM0nk Ure right... But at the same time most judo moves are wrestling moves... For example this move is just a variation of a hip toss and is extremely common in wrestling... its done the same exact way. The only difference between Judo and Wrestling that I have noticed are that Judo involves a lot more trips, other than that the takedowns are basically the same... The only other difference is the rules for matches (submission vs. pinning)... Takedown wise: Judo = Wrestling pretty much
Wrestlefan1 2 years ago
Wrestlefan1 Yah, your right too. when i think of wrestling i usually think of greco roman or shooting. sometimes i forget alot of its like judo. I noticed that some forms of wrestling share alot of judo moves (like you said save trips and what not, I took judo). wrestling uses alot of shoots and stuff, something i've never been too formfortable doing. What wrestling style is this?
BlueM0nk 2 years ago
@BlueM0nk It looks like freestyle wrestling i wrestled for four years, and practiced Judo and Jui Jitsu... I was a heavyweight... and was also very uncomfortable with shooting... I would actually implement my judo as my wrestling style... I would use trips in matches.. this was actually my favorite technique... and i still use it to this day... and actually some judo schools are incorperating shots into their style... Judo basically took wrestling and jiu jitsu and combined them into one style
Wrestlefan1 2 years ago
well for one, the other guy could just drop his hips and mat return you. another thing is that you want to keep your head up cause thats most important in wrestling
spreadingSilencex6 2 years ago
what will hapen if i do a suplex to someone at concrete?
coostyyy86 2 years ago
It will be hurt him ;]
Rumperator 2 years ago 2
youll probably get sued for crippling some guy
caelean1 2 years ago 4
Jail time for battery and assualt
ladedabob 2 years ago
haha wat do u think lol?
brisbane1made 2 years ago
@coostyyy86 wtf do you think will happen *splat* lol
AJinator9509 2 years ago
itz a hipp toss well thats how we call it but i teach it like the ogishi where u get on your toes while tossing 2 pic him up a lil more. thats under greatmaster flavio behring.what would u guys say?
tcgodzarmy 2 years ago
2 explain again bent ur kness feet together and push out from hip 2 stand on toes in end which needs more attention than pulling or throwing with arm....thats how i learned it wnd it works but would u say itz not necessary?
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yatawitty 2 years ago
its called a lateral drop/throw in wrestling. Thats not a shoulder throw. The important thing you have to realize in this throw is that you only do it when the other person is pushing into you, otherwise when you step over to change your hips, you will get thrown and be and horrilbe postion. So only do this throw when some body is pushing into you.
cdtend3r 2 years ago 3
This is not a lateral drop. The lateral drop has no back step.
simoncarnal100 2 years ago
yes it does.....you step back in the lateral drop to change the postion of your hips and to set him up for the throw......
cdtend3r 2 years ago
You may want to check with your coach or at least do a youtube search. You'll find there is practically universal agreement on what a lateral drop is and it's not this.
simoncarnal100 2 years ago
This is not a lateral drop. This is a hip throw.
in lateral drop you do not turn your back to your opponent. You just flip him over your chest/side.
MogwaiX 2 years ago
its real name is "o-goshi" or if you wear gi's and you grab their belt its called "obi-o-goshi"
you need the "unbalancing" part with this tho. guys that focus on judo will pull you around to make u lose balance before throwing you.
JPR1993 2 years ago
yep thats what its called in jiu jitsu. or just a hip toss
schmidty091 2 years ago
Its Americanized kinda Judo. Very nice. Its like... MMAudo or somethings :D
Drogba2108 2 years ago
it looks easy until the other guy is trying to out muscle you. cuz theres a possibility if you cross you leg like he said you can get thrown on your back.
bizzle1431 2 years ago
its a hip toss or hiori goshi (excuse my spelinng )
enchantedpancake 2 years ago
otherwise known as o goshi in judo
craponu4alltime 2 years ago
at the end if youd swing a leg over his waist a second before he hitss the ground youd even have full mount
razorsazors 3 years ago
hehe niiiiice
magicprump 3 years ago
shoulder throw??
how bout judo hip throw??
090681kj 3 years ago
how bout jujitsu hip throw
devilblazer5 2 years ago
techniqual term is o'goshi judo/jujitsu throw, easyer to throw bigger people if you bend your knees more then throw to get more power
plantpot121 3 years ago
nice move
bear500087 3 years ago
Can i practice these moves by myself
Snipe617 3 years ago
no. find a school nearby and join
Jiggafly117 3 years ago 15
yes, but practise with someone else first ;)
shaundocaa 3 years ago
awesome, thanks for the videos.
HatakeStrife 3 years ago
it is a hip toss in a shoulder throw you use his arm to flip him over
grk11ng 4 years ago
I believe that's actually a hip toss
jojojaykay 4 years ago 3
its actually sort of a mix between a hip toss and shoulder throw this was one of my teammates best move on my team he showed to me and one point and ive used it in matches
what it does is put pressure on the joint in the soulder and your lifting in that spot while at the same time you also use your hips to help pull him over
arc49er 3 years ago
I beliebe that's actually a hip toss.
jojojaykay 4 years ago
impresive 1 question for do that technique do you need more bigger than your opponent? because you need be strong for take him.
thanks and awesome tecnique.
Chanantino 4 years ago
on the contrary, the point of jui jitsu was to take down and manhandle larger opponents. Being as big as I am it's hard to tell someone size doesn't matter because it kind of does help in a lot of ways. But, for the most part skill wins. You HAVE TO TRAIN with someone tho and then spar to actually get better. Watching doesn't do much
hercules71185 3 years ago
Yeah, I agree, size doesn't really matter. I'm not much of a wrestler, more of a boxer and today I wrestled someone who has been doing it all of his life and weighs 50 pounds less than me and I was getting owned until he taught me some of the techniques.
tko2534 3 years ago 2
True, but once your wrestling gets better your weight will be an advantage over the other guy.
kneebar1000 3 years ago
I am a instructor for team ENSF in MA.
kneebar111 4 years ago
yes
kneebar111 4 years ago
nice move are you an instructor?
TranceAddict2088 4 years ago