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  • I really needed to hear this Greg. The past year has been very difficult for me, so hearing you say those things, helps me realize a lot. Thank you L:

  • am i the only person waiting for the nbc "the more you know" thing to apear at the end?

  • @Magician12345 lmao xD

  • Being a virgin is physical, not mental. So it you're raped, you're no longer a virgin, but who cares really? It's not that big of a deal to not have that title of being a virgin if you were raped, you're still a person who can be loved.

  • From someone who was molested as a child I can say I have never felt like I was a true virgin. I remember talking about sex with my friends in middle school and I had to lie and it was really awkward for me.

    For me virginity is innocence and once you've been molested there is nothing you can do it's gone. People that molest children do so much more damage then taking virginity. That honestly destroy a small part of the soul.

  • virginity is gone at the first instance of a penis entering a vagina... bottom line

  • If you got raped and you were a virgin, you'd still be a virgin at heart.

  • @kawaiiheatherable

    Perfect statement ! Thats actually really true :o

  • Virginity is, like you said, a gift. A gift you only give to someone you love.

  • Wise words Onision.

    Makes me feel kind of warm inside <3

  • nicely put, you are very kind :)

  • u give your virginity for ppl you luv (:

  • Oh Greg i really hope you will read this. I have a friend who was raped 1 yr ago. Yesterday we played a truth telling game with some friends, and all of us had to tell if we are virgins or not. Everyone knows about Jennys raping, and when she said she's a virgin everyone was like "eeh nooo you're not!?" "Weren't u raped, or did you lie about that??" So basically everyone at school today called her a liar and stuff... she tries to tell them that she sees herself as a virgin but no one listens...

  • @eeelineify what kind of fucked up school do you go to where they make fun of raped people? they sound like shit friends to play truth or dare with haha

  • Greg-you answered this brilliantly and beautifully. Thank you for that.

  • Virginity is a gift. Someone can take that gift, theirs or not, rip it open, and claim it as their own. You can claim to take it back, and maybe even try to wrap it back up. It's not the same. You know that it was stolen, and tampered with, and you had to go through that pain. If you can see it as not taken, then power to you. Most people can't, sadly. And physically, it's impossible to gain back your virginity.

    Also, I don't think molestation is taking your virginity. Still is wrong though.

  • Clueless

  • No I don't believe that to be molested is to loose your virginity. To lose your virginity is to willingly have full and complete intercourse with whom you love and want to "give yourself" to :)

  • I favorited ♥ How can I not, I mean, this video is amazing, and your eyes are beatiful ♥

  • Well... as it seems to be logical that Physically it's given the first time you have sex, i do think almost the same as you. I gave it to my actual Gf and it meant it in both sides. Physically and Emotionally i've lost it. The thing is, to me the best way it's when you give it to someone you do really love, in both ways, physically and Emotionally, and it's mutual.

  • i was...well something happened to me on vacation once when i was a kid, let's just say it was the most traumatic thing that can happen to a kid...and i still considered myself a virgin until i gave it to my ex bf

    completely agreed onision :)

  • yes true,emotionally and physically are two different things,I think Jesus's mom would agree

  • if youre raped, then physically, youre not a virgin anymore. thats how it is. but since you didnt do anything yourself and still have no experience what so ever you still are one. i guess.

  • You're right Greg. <3

  • I think giving your virginity is more than just the act of sex, it's the choice to have it-a specific mental inclination and decision which is not present when molested. Even though a hymen may have broke (they usually break from other things like sports or tamps anyway) virginity is still something so personal that it can't be taken away without your consent.

  • hm, i still think rapists have stolen virginities. because the person has still experienced sex, despite it not being pleasurable at all. but then, having proper meaningful, loving, or at least lusting sexx is a whole different experience. maybe thats what it could be. hm, i dont know.

  • I think they are still virgins. I think those victims don't feel the same way...because it was stolen from them.

  • @bonnieyode Yeah.... I agree

  • Virginity is God's greatest gift:)

  • I totally agree :)

  • so true

  • I gave it to the wrong person. I should have known better, but I'm young, and it was a lesson well learned from...

  • @tutuChan17 People say you can always say no to sex even if you've said yes before... Hey at least you cn admit it :)

  • I love your analogy(:

  • I agree.

  • so agree in what your saying .

  • this shit is deep yo.

    no pun intended..

  • if you unwillingly gave your said "gift" To said person then physicaly no you are not a virgin But mentally you are because your gift was stolen not given so mentally yes your a virgin physicaly no your not

  • Onision, your definition may be debated (not saying I am debating but you know) but regardless this was pretty deep. I'm left in awe

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  • this kinda has something to do with this amazing vid but here what I has happened to me I've use to hurt my self because I found out my whole familys thing that they do. if I harm my self did I lose my inoscence?

  • this speaks to me so much ! i was raped as a child and i went 8 year blaming it on myself say i was a whore and i wasnt a virgin <333 greg you are amazing

  • @Eressiz The ugly truth

  • You sure like to talk about girls losing their virginity a lot... Like everyday.

  • Girls, (95% of the watchers) You lost your virginity when you took a penis to the vagina.

    You lost your emotional virginity whenever the hell you wanted to do it.

    Guys, (remaining 5%) You lost your virginity when you took a vagina to the penis.

    Girls regret the guys they slept with

    Guys regret the girls they didn't sleep with.

  • You actually brought tears to my eyes, Greg. For the past four years I've been regretting losing my virginity to someone who didn't care about me. But I think that my physical virginity was the only thing lost. My emotional virginity I feel I gave to my boyfriend of two years after our two years of dating. We waited two years and it was beautiful. He's my official first. :)

  • love it <3 alot of people try to go by the hymen, but that can be torn in very many ways. a woman can tear it while doing stetches or using a tampon and would never know because it's just like period blood. nothing defines your virginity except for you giving it away in your first time, because if you go by when the hymen is ripped, you must also say that the first time a guy ejaculates he has lost his, which doesn't make sense...

  • <3

  • Well said Greg. :)

  • I`ve been avoiding your videos for a while . . . your opinions sometimes hit a nerve. But watching this . . . I remembered why I subscribed in the first place. Sometimes, your wise opinions are a blessing =)

  • I agree100 % with you. And I liked the analogy that you made. Fits perfectly. :D

  • with all do respect, you can only give your sentemental virginity to someone, with that i totally agree... but in physical terms, obviously the same logic doesnt apply... and part of the emotional changes that rape or molestation can give someone is the idea that the sentemental value of their virginity has been tainted or stripped completely. you have to agree that specifically in women, the first time they have intercourse, consentual or not, their virginity has removed.

  • virginity is technically a state of mind

  • Totally agree with you.

  • I completely agree with you Greg.

  • i love the way you think Greg. especially on this topic.. ESPECIALLY on this topic

  • Onision- "I dunno, what do you guys think?"

    Well, whenever anyone posts a video response or a comment replying back one of your videos THEIR opinion is almost always wrong in your eyes. Get over yourself. Your not always right. I'd hate to be the person who thinks they've got a better vantage point than EVERYONE ELSE when it comes to widely discussed topics. By the way, virginity is a gift. You dropped and sacrificed everything to give it to a 17 yr old who fucked you over. Good job, Greg.

  • if he had blond hair he might look a tad like kurt cobain... just saying

  • @AmeliaDuphraine true lol hes cheek form looks kinda like his :)

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  • My friend was raped by her step-father, and I will never stop telling her that she is a virgin. She enver wanted anything to happen. I believe you are a virgin until you make the choice to have sex, but after you make that choice, you can never take it back and want to "start over", because it's gone.

  • @myoka08 lets say i have a baby i can say im a virgin? if  slept with 10 people im a virgin? every time i have sex im a virgin?

  • @TheCrazyCatLady81 If you willingly had sex, which is what he's saying, you are not virgin. If you are raped, you are not physically a virgin, yet mentally you are because you did not willingly give it away. Make sense?

  • <3

  • @onisionspeaks So i recently found out that my friend has lied for 2 years about being raped, Im not sure if i should give her a chance to explain why should would lie about something so serious or if i should rid her from my life? Any advice? 

  • @JORDIEandEVA It's possible that she's just looking for attention, but it's also possible that she is sexually disturbed and a previous event in her life scarred her mentally, or certain circumstances brought her to lie how she did. All in all, lying is never good - but you should ask her why she lied, not Onision. That's just my take on it.

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  • I'm pretty sure you already covered this...

  • i dig your take on this.

  • <3

    

  • This video just proves your haters are pathetic ignorant morons. So many down thumbs on a video trying to defend victims of rape.

  • @lizzietupman I agree, I see no reason for people to thumbs down this

  • I think there's the physical virginity and the mental virginity. No matter what you do, you can not take away a person's "mental virginity", it has to be a choice.

  • I'm a 27 year old virgin.

  • you unblock me it awesome means you read my message

  • thanks i guess you got my message

  • hiiiii

  • But, it is definitely helpful for those who were raped.

  • Maybe first sex ever? Even if raped, they are not virgins. But they can still have first sex with someone.

  • if you've had sex, willing or not, you're no longer a virgin.

  • @libbylust Agreed

  • @libbylust maybe physically, but i emotionally i think you decide.

  • Molested?? Or raped?? If molested no, if raped physically yes your not, emotionally you can still loose your virginity with someone you cared about!!!

  • if ya got fucked, you aint a virgin nuh more ;( (da trufe)

  • Greg, your amazingg we all love you!! And all the haters are proberly molesters/rapists

  • 86 people are pro-molestation

  • @Naruto40883 Oh no, the poor little Christian has his feelings hurt? Is your god being made fun of? Awww poor little theist who willingly allows people everywhere to burn in hell for all eternity according to your belief system so why should we care about your feelings?

  • you're pretty amazing, you know that? x

  • @OnisionSpeaks Me,having been raped, feels better because of this video. Thankyou very much Greg

  • With the idea that virginity does not only rest in physical manner and such a perfect analogy of the "gift" you have provoked debate between the viewers and once agaim shown the contrast in individual views. The thought of a mental acceptance taking part in the loss of virginity is correct from my perspective and if one is a rape victim and feels they've lost their virginity they can still take action with individuals they love to break the mental grasp of the subject willingly.

  • Greg...go look up definition of virginity...its unfourtenate that if somone gets raped its loss of virginity it really is...BUT ITS TRUE....sorry gergles ;)

  • If he cant commit, dont give him jack shit.

  • the concept of virginity is outdated and ineffective

  • I disagree with you on many topics, but here I concur wholeheartedly.

  • the guy who asked the question, please do something about it

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  • Saying that willingly giving someone virginity is the only way to lose your virginity is like saying if someone steals something from a store, it's not really stolen. It's fine. It's still there.

  • I agree.

  • What he is trying to say, you loose your virginity when you willingly have sex with someone, that's it, period.

  • @TimZmuda I agree! Definitions to other people vary for some odd reason. Sexual intercourse is Not just penis entering vaginas

  • @louiseparc so you can have your opinion but not me? I also was answering a comment below about the hymen and tampons ect. If you read my post I stated it being a emotional thing as well I do believe the first time entered is losing it physically millions also think that and have for thousands of years and the lesbian thing I don't get what's your problem nit picker? So by your logic making out could be losing it? I said penetration not penis!

  • @TheCrazyCatLady81 People also enslaved people for years and thought the world was flat? When you know better, you do better. Since virginity is a physical/emotional experience intertwined. Medically, she would be a rape victim.

  • @TheCrazyCatLady81 To all you people who are stuck on the physical side... not to be crude but say a virgin has a dildo...the "physical evidence" (which isn't reliable) is now gone. What is she then? lol Further evidence both the emotional/physical component need to be involved in order to give your virginity.

  • So if a girl gets pregnant from having sex willingly, but just "chose" to keep her virginity in the process, does that mean she is experiencing immaculate conception? Dude, you just turned me christian with your astounding logic! THANKS GREG ILY LESS THAN THREEEEEE

  • that was an excellent metaphor greg

  • thats well thought out I never thought of it like that

  • @TimZmuda No, it does matter. In the fact that, there is something called willing virginity and medical virginity. Not to mention for someone that had their medical virginity taken from them, means they can still hold on to their willing side. It also has to do with the therapy after being raped, they can still say that, yes, their a virgin. Like Greg said, it's a gift.

  • Personally I belive if someone is raped, then they aren't physically a virgin anymore, but I think that theres a physical and an emotional/mental part to everything. So even though they wont technically be a virgin by medical standards, emotionally they can still give it away. You can still give the love, and the devotion that comes with loosing your virginity to the person whom they choose to.

  • can i rip your hair out?

  • I Agree and im a virgin

  • It's called hymen the membrane sorry I couldn't remember it

  • I concur. It's nice to see this form of wisdom.

  • Losing your virginity is when any penetration occurs we have a membrane it starts with a H being molested if penetrated is gone I lost mine to a very sick man when I was 5 to 9. If you've not been penetrated you do not use tampons or get pap by the doc as it would " pop your cherry" while you lost it against your will virginity is in your heart Born again. We are survivors not victims

  • @TheCrazyCatLady81 Not every girl is born with a hymen, and not every girl's hymen is broken their first time. So, are they still virgins? Oh, and masturbation can also break it... did they lost their virginity to themselves, then? I don't think so. Virginity is much more than a hymen, sex is much more than penetration. "Foreplay" is pretty much sexual acts. Also, it's phallocentric, at least if you meant being penetrated by a penis only... what about the lesbians?

  • didnt you already go over this

  • I think people feel that virginity = the first time you have sex, by consent or force. And so people feel like it's been taken away if they are raped etc... but I agree. Even if the first time was not by your will, you can find someone and make sex a special experience to recover from the incident.

  • this paradime shift just blew my mind

  • ggg

  • this is so utterly triggering. like, you have no idea.

    first off, you have the definition of molestation correct. i've been there, i should know.

    second, you've used the gift anology. well, what about this: if it's a gift intended for one person and someone else steals it, then its gone. that person that it was meant for never gets it. the same with virginity, if you think virginity is only broken by sex. i've been molested but i am very much a virgin. i just think it's all about how you see it.

  • @trueromancefurimmer Well said.

  • why did i post that? lmao. who cares

  • K i dont care what any of you have to say.. and yea this might be too much imformation lmao.. but, its a piece of skin!(atleast i think it is....O_O) But anyway. i only think virginity can be taken from someones after they have had intercourse. So.....Is wearing tampons breaking your virginity personally? idk its confusing... O_O

  • @ZtifazLove No, The state of never having had sexual intercourse is what Virginity is

  • The way I see it is if a penis has been in your vagina, you are no longer a virgin. End of story.

  • My definition of virginity is "an arbitrary concept used by obsolete cultures to determine the worth of an unmarried maiden."

  • @Krogoth04 i second that statement. :)

  • I do not mind having mine gone, however i do also do not mind who i gave it to, me and him may not be together, but he is still one of my best friends.

  • I wish I could have mine BACK...Or I wish I could change who I would have given it to...

  • This makes so much sense to me. What a wonderful way of perceiving sex as an emotional act rather than strictly physical.

  • @brindabellaoffroad Okay, that means you think a hymen determines whether someone is a virgin, when in fact, there are females born without a hymen. Born without virginity? Yeah, it's possible, according to you, despite no previous sexual acts. His speaks channel focuses on mature material so most of these videos would naturally be watched by a more mature audience... such as those who doesn't make trollish accusations of predatorism. You aren't funny, mate.

  • @brindabellaoffroad hey! do us all a favor and go away. *shoo*

  • you're a freak, your analogies are TERRIBLE. if a girl has had a penis in their vagina they are no longer a virgin, fact!

  • B^)

  • testing testing 123

  • I 100% agree with you.

  • you talk about molestation and rape meaning you think about it alot more. you probobly get off on the thought of someone actually being abused like that, not like kinky roleplay but the actual crime. and you can have virginity taken away. you are a fucking idiot.

  • @Onision Women's rights have ruined this country, end of discussion! :O

  • so defloration is not loosing virginity?

    I don't actually agree with you.

    what if the girl gave her virginity after being 3 years in a relationship with her boyfriend and after some time they broke up, she doesn't love him anymore and now she might say to her new boyfriend that she will give him her virginity because she never cared or loved her ex-bf

    she might have an excuse that she was wrong about him all this time.

    this gives her infinite virginity lives. so she's hacking...

  • @BoyDaMiller No because it's a gift that can only be given once.

    If you are raped, you are still a virgin. But if you consentual sex and then decide that you don't love that person, you are no longer a virgin because you have already choosen to give away your virginity.

    A girl on the onision forums said it well: "To me, virginity isn't an unbroken hymen, it's an idea. An idea that cannot be stolen, only given."

  • steal ALL the gifts!!!

  • Awwww, you are so sweet! ^_^

    I love the way you think about this topic.

    I agree with you 100%.

    I will share this video so people can see and understand your message here. Because it is true. It can't be stolen; it can only be given.

    Thank you for your thoughts Onision. Truly.

  • Virginity is until a penis is inserted into vagina.

  • Dude! Why are you so obsessed with rape? It's kind of creepy!

  • @LynxPointMama he talks about these things because people ask him to .__.

  • Virginity is an idea, not a body part, or a physical act. For women, if a hymen's broken, that doesn't mean your virginity's been taken, because you can break a hymen during yoga. Most girls break them early on anyway, way before intercourse. When you decide to begin to build a sex life, then your virginity is given, not when your harmed by another sexually, or forced into sex that you don't consent to.

  • Oral is often considered Molestation, not Rape so your definition of sex comes into play.

    I agree with you. Just because you were molested or raped does not mean that you're not a virgin or that you're a slut or anything like that.

  • im amazed people still ask you questions for knowledge.

  • I wish you had more positive videos like this ~

    liked.

  • its a sweet, poetic thought that ones virginity cant be stolen. Having said that, i disagree with you. I believe virginity to be entirely physical, just like a birthday gift. If somebody steals it (whether its intended for them or not), its gone. But like you said, its only an opinion.

  • I'm already seeing idiots posting "Stop talking about God..." or "Dumb topic dude". Good job, you wasted about 3mins of your time. If you don't like his opinion about God, stop watching his channel, go watch some god-fearing imbecile say that everyone who doesn't believe in god are going to hell. And the dumb topic guy, go get molested in prison and say it is a dumb topic.

  • @Oathkeeper2001 "Like"

  • Wow. Such a touching sentiment and I'm sure its something a lot of people need to hear. This was really beautiful, keep being amazing Greg, more people need to hear your serious videos.

  • Onision stop makeing fun of god. I'm very religious . And you to stop. What will you do and die. And have to answer to god ?

  • @Naruto40883 What will you do when you die and have to answer to Allah?

    Or Buddha?

    Or Krishna?

    Or any of the other thousands of Gods that "exists"?

  • @SammDogg tell them all to go to hell because none of them are useful in the slightest... Btw. Im agnostic, but seriously @Naruto40883 i dont sit there and pray to my 'god' I believe in karma, and pushing shit on people have never got anyone anywhere. Onision has the right idea, your 'religion' is seriously contradiciting, selfish and fucked up...like the rest of them. Get a hobby.

  • dumb topic dude.

  • @jodopeg Dumb comment dude.

  • I go by the medical definition of virginity, but the reasoning and behind your definition of it is very moving and respectful of people who have been victimized or taken advantage of.

    For me, as far as virginity being a gift, I think sex in all forms and all levels should be considered a gift.

  • yet again i love the vid. your view is exactly what everyone tells me and cant quite get through my head. still tryin :)

  • Wow, you sure seem obsessed with violations of people.

  • Onision, while I've only been watching your Speaks videos for a little less then a year, they've really benefitted me in the way of bringing in new concepts and ideas- making me really think about stuff. Your videos are really helpful. Thank you for existing. :)

  • When u have sex u lose ur virginity, but it's not a big deal