It's funny how italians says that he wasn't french but italian, like how they say that napoleon was italian and not french. Just to clear things up, he was french, and who cares if he was french or italian or scottish or british, he was a veteran and a true hero. Peace
on peut savoir d'où tu sors ça? En 44 Paris était déjà libéré, je vois pas ce que des français feraient en Italie après ça. Et c'est sûr, l'Italie n'a pas commis de crime de son coté pendant la 2e GM ?
C'est un mensonge. Les troupes françaises, comme toutes les armées ont commis des exactions en Italie en 45, mais ni plus, ni moins que les autres armées. Ce mensonge (les viols en masse) a été inventé puis entretenu par les derniers fascistes italiens. (cf wikipédia, même si d'autres sites sont de meilleures références).
All of you are correct in numbers, but there is one thing you keep forgetting... the American Civil War was fought in 1861-1865, that was when we had roughly 900,000,000 people on this earth... during WWI 1914-1918, 2,000,000,000 people on this earth... therefore the percentage of deaths to population ratio shows that the American Civil War was a bigger loss of men than the Fench in WWI. It's the truth,so quit arguing...
Around 1.8 billion was world population during WW1and around 1.2 billion during civil war (you can google it). Therefore french loss in WW1 was greater than American civil war.
no justfrench, he dies as a symbol, in fact , as he dies the memory of this war dies and it is our turn not to forget and to transmitt to the next generations... WW1 is now part of unlived history and people who have lived it are all dead... lets not forget
Je refuse ces obsèques nationales. Ce nest pas juste dattendre le dernier poilu. Cest un affront fait à tous les autres, morts sans avoir eu les honneurs quils méritaient. On na rien fait pour eux. Ils se sont battus comme moi. Ils avaient droit à un geste de leur vivant Même un petit geste aurait suffi.
Ce fut les Paroles de Lazare Ponticelli décédé le 12 /03/2008 à 110 ans.
Alors Gardons la mémoire de nos anciens combatants C'est un devoir pour tous !*
I always thought that the reason europe is mostly socialist is because of the 2 great wars fought on their soil. America will never understand this as no bloodshed of that magnitude was ever fought on their land.
Nice hypothesis Yet in fact the social-democrats were already very powerful parties in the German and Austrian empires before WW1, and France had just elected a left-wing parliament in 1914.
The Great War rather stimulated radical right- and left-wing activists: Fascists and Communists.
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Hey, listen to helmuthoorn, the American Civil War had more people die than every war combined. Americans were drenched in blood long before WWI and WWII.
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Um yes, it is, more people died in the Civil War than in World War I. America was completely ravaged for 30 years after the war, unlike Europe which was easily rebuilt in less than 20 years. The Civil war had the first machine gun to be put in use, therefore World War I wasn't really that specially...
During the civil war, 620 000 soldiers died (Federated and Confederate) during the first World War, almost 1 000 000 French soldiers were killed. Besides other nations.
The entire north of the country was ravaged, entire towns destroyed, not only plantations or farms.
In addition, France had barely recovered from the Franco-Prussian war that had ravaged the region (139 000 fench died + 20 000 died during "la semaine sanglante".).
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The Civil War had about 700,000 people die and this was before lethal gas, and advance machine guns and cannon fire. That would practically be the equivalent of the French dead by 1918. Also the Franco-Prussian War was 30 years before WWI, America had to fight three different wars from 1860-up till 1918 before they joined the fight in Europe. The Civil War, the Spanish American War, and the Philippino War. So France has no excuse to complain.
I do not think you measure the unprecedented violence of the First World War. Just travel to northern France to see the destroyed landscape (even today).
In every French village there is a monument to the dead with hundreds of names on each (only for WWI).
The French were psychologically killed.
They have spent hundreds of major wars (on their territory) that the Americans and that is that America is struggling to understand.
PS: In civil war the disease was deadly. more than guns.
btw, the Spanish American War, and the Philippino war... sorry i mean "war" cuz it wasnt really a war that is if you count 30000 deaths (both wars combined) as a significant fact. Anyway, spain was a 3rd war country at that time with no army what so ever. And philipines??? please they probably didnt invent the weel back then. so stop making it sound as some kind of important war effort lol
Yes, and France had also paid all the war damage to Germany for the Franco-Prussian war, despite it being a serious drain on their economy.
Then other countries said that the Versailles treaty was harsh. Not to the French who had their country totally devastated. If France paid Germany war damage for the 1870 war, then Germany should pay theirs too when they lost in 1918.
@McLarenMercedes My ass. Germany let the French Army remain, and only took money and Alalsce Lorraine. You guys didn't even touch Germany soil, yet you still demanded us to get rid of most of our territories. It would be like the Germans taking Paris in 1870, taking all of Northern France, and taking away a large portion of its colonies. The Treaty of Versailles was way too harsh.
@DuguesclinBZH actually it was more like 900 000 soldiers for the civil war, and 1 400 000 french soldiers during WW1... anyway you are right to stress that the country was bled to death...
um, if you limt the dead to american dead you are correct in the numbers. However if you count all dead from all warring countries of WWI, the amount far surpasses the 600+ thousand that died during the american war of the states.
france suffered so much in this war, as did all the nations, but france especially. Although very very sad, his death represents a period of history that france will look back on with few fond memories. In away, only now has this bit of history been confined to history books...
It was always in the History Books The French and the other Nations will never live in it but they will never forget. RIP to everyone on both sides who died for a family feud
no, i dont mean it like that, what i mean is confined, only to the history books. When the last veteran goes it will just be in the history books and no where else. But while there are still veterans then part, even if such a small part of this part of history is still alive
True, the "poilus" fought mainly against the Germans on the French and Belgian front. French divisions were also sent to support Italy against the Austrians, to the Middle-East in cooperation with the British against the Turks, and in the Balkans were their action under Franchet d'Esperey was decisive in the collapse of Bulgaria and the Austrian empire.
"Ponticelli was the last of the "hairy ones," which is a nickname given to unshaven troops who embodied French defiance against the" GERMANS (although French soldiers sometimes fought against the Austrians too).
This veteran.
i slaute him.
he seems so damn respectable.
AznLoserWin 10 months ago
It's funny how italians says that he wasn't french but italian, like how they say that napoleon was italian and not french. Just to clear things up, he was french, and who cares if he was french or italian or scottish or british, he was a veteran and a true hero. Peace
HolyGK 1 year ago
@HolyGK Napo etait Corse precisement, merci
daniellelabelle123 11 months ago
@daniellelabelle123 oui, corse = francais
HolyGK 11 months ago
A REMARCIER CE HERO ITALIEN, LES FRANCAIS EN 1945 VIOLEE PLUS DE 50.000 FEMMES ET FILLES ITALIENNES DANS LE SUD DE L'ITALIE.
FRANCE PAYS DES COLLABORATEURS ET DES LACHES
GrandeurFrancaise 1 year ago
@GrandeurFrancaise
on peut savoir d'où tu sors ça? En 44 Paris était déjà libéré, je vois pas ce que des français feraient en Italie après ça. Et c'est sûr, l'Italie n'a pas commis de crime de son coté pendant la 2e GM ?
Kamfrenchie 1 year ago
@GrandeurFrancaise
C'est un mensonge. Les troupes françaises, comme toutes les armées ont commis des exactions en Italie en 45, mais ni plus, ni moins que les autres armées. Ce mensonge (les viols en masse) a été inventé puis entretenu par les derniers fascistes italiens. (cf wikipédia, même si d'autres sites sont de meilleures références).
sirupeuse 1 year ago
HE WAS AN ITALIAN HERO....
BORN IN ITALY, SERVED BETWEEN 1915 TO 1918 IN THE ITALIAN MONTAINS TROOPS . ALPINI
GrandeurFrancaise 1 year ago
All of you are correct in numbers, but there is one thing you keep forgetting... the American Civil War was fought in 1861-1865, that was when we had roughly 900,000,000 people on this earth... during WWI 1914-1918, 2,000,000,000 people on this earth... therefore the percentage of deaths to population ratio shows that the American Civil War was a bigger loss of men than the Fench in WWI. It's the truth,so quit arguing...
Vandread4ever 2 years ago
French lost more soldiers only during the WW1 than USA during all their wars since their creation.
And i don't talk about civilians...
julien0540 2 years ago 20
Correction ; France, not french.
julien0540 2 years ago
@julien0540 what does that have to do with the video
mangokiller111 1 year ago
@mangokiller111 that was an old answer to a bad comment about france.
julien0540 1 year ago
@julien0540 They died fight for a cause that was worth it. As did British and American.
TheIceman567 6 months ago
Around 1.8 billion was world population during WW1and around 1.2 billion during civil war (you can google it). Therefore french loss in WW1 was greater than American civil war.
hunter8137 2 years ago
no justfrench, he dies as a symbol, in fact , as he dies the memory of this war dies and it is our turn not to forget and to transmitt to the next generations... WW1 is now part of unlived history and people who have lived it are all dead... lets not forget
fra2603 2 years ago
Je refuse ces obsèques nationales. Ce nest pas juste dattendre le dernier poilu. Cest un affront fait à tous les autres, morts sans avoir eu les honneurs quils méritaient. On na rien fait pour eux. Ils se sont battus comme moi. Ils avaient droit à un geste de leur vivant Même un petit geste aurait suffi.
Ce fut les Paroles de Lazare Ponticelli décédé le 12 /03/2008 à 110 ans.
Alors Gardons la mémoire de nos anciens combatants C'est un devoir pour tous !*
JustFrench80 2 years ago 3
JustFrench80 @
Era un EROE ITALIANO ..... NON FRANCESE
GrandeurFrancaise 1 year ago
holy fuck, 110?! damn.
punkrockxzz 2 years ago
I always thought that the reason europe is mostly socialist is because of the 2 great wars fought on their soil. America will never understand this as no bloodshed of that magnitude was ever fought on their land.
Not2Sane 3 years ago 5
Nice hypothesis Yet in fact the social-democrats were already very powerful parties in the German and Austrian empires before WW1, and France had just elected a left-wing parliament in 1914.
The Great War rather stimulated radical right- and left-wing activists: Fascists and Communists.
Fridomfry 3 years ago
Read something about the American civil war.
helmuthoorn 3 years ago
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Hey, listen to helmuthoorn, the American Civil War had more people die than every war combined. Americans were drenched in blood long before WWI and WWII.
Vandread4ever 3 years ago
the American civil war is not comparable to the first World War.
Moreover, France has experienced hundreds of wars that the United States.
The war seems ever more beautiful when she is away from home. Except that for the French, the war has always been home.
DuguesclinBZH 3 years ago
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Um yes, it is, more people died in the Civil War than in World War I. America was completely ravaged for 30 years after the war, unlike Europe which was easily rebuilt in less than 20 years. The Civil war had the first machine gun to be put in use, therefore World War I wasn't really that specially...
Vandread4ever 3 years ago
During the civil war, 620 000 soldiers died (Federated and Confederate) during the first World War, almost 1 000 000 French soldiers were killed. Besides other nations.
The entire north of the country was ravaged, entire towns destroyed, not only plantations or farms.
In addition, France had barely recovered from the Franco-Prussian war that had ravaged the region (139 000 fench died + 20 000 died during "la semaine sanglante".).
DuguesclinBZH 3 years ago 8
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The Civil War had about 700,000 people die and this was before lethal gas, and advance machine guns and cannon fire. That would practically be the equivalent of the French dead by 1918. Also the Franco-Prussian War was 30 years before WWI, America had to fight three different wars from 1860-up till 1918 before they joined the fight in Europe. The Civil War, the Spanish American War, and the Philippino War. So France has no excuse to complain.
Vandread4ever 3 years ago
I do not think you measure the unprecedented violence of the First World War. Just travel to northern France to see the destroyed landscape (even today).
In every French village there is a monument to the dead with hundreds of names on each (only for WWI).
The French were psychologically killed.
They have spent hundreds of major wars (on their territory) that the Americans and that is that America is struggling to understand.
PS: In civil war the disease was deadly. more than guns.
DuguesclinBZH 3 years ago 5
btw, the Spanish American War, and the Philippino war... sorry i mean "war" cuz it wasnt really a war that is if you count 30000 deaths (both wars combined) as a significant fact. Anyway, spain was a 3rd war country at that time with no army what so ever. And philipines??? please they probably didnt invent the weel back then. so stop making it sound as some kind of important war effort lol
hunter8137 2 years ago
@DuguesclinBZH
Yes, and France had also paid all the war damage to Germany for the Franco-Prussian war, despite it being a serious drain on their economy.
Then other countries said that the Versailles treaty was harsh. Not to the French who had their country totally devastated. If France paid Germany war damage for the 1870 war, then Germany should pay theirs too when they lost in 1918.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@McLarenMercedes My ass. Germany let the French Army remain, and only took money and Alalsce Lorraine. You guys didn't even touch Germany soil, yet you still demanded us to get rid of most of our territories. It would be like the Germans taking Paris in 1870, taking all of Northern France, and taking away a large portion of its colonies. The Treaty of Versailles was way too harsh.
Bmanstudios101 10 months ago
@DuguesclinBZH actually it was more like 900 000 soldiers for the civil war, and 1 400 000 french soldiers during WW1... anyway you are right to stress that the country was bled to death...
Mcmanaman85 2 months ago
um, if you limt the dead to american dead you are correct in the numbers. However if you count all dead from all warring countries of WWI, the amount far surpasses the 600+ thousand that died during the american war of the states.
HuasoPodrido 2 years ago
what about airplane et tank et boat that was no used in america war
evravon12 2 years ago
I thought Fernand Goux is the last surviving veteran of the trenches
quigonpaj 3 years ago
france suffered so much in this war, as did all the nations, but france especially. Although very very sad, his death represents a period of history that france will look back on with few fond memories. In away, only now has this bit of history been confined to history books...
napoleonbonarparte 3 years ago
It was always in the History Books The French and the other Nations will never live in it but they will never forget. RIP to everyone on both sides who died for a family feud
Milford06 3 years ago
no, i dont mean it like that, what i mean is confined, only to the history books. When the last veteran goes it will just be in the history books and no where else. But while there are still veterans then part, even if such a small part of this part of history is still alive
napoleonbonarparte 3 years ago
@ napoleonbonarparte
PONTICELLI UN HERO ITALIEN
GrandeurFrancaise 1 year ago
God bless him. Rest in Peace.
jonaspv 3 years ago 2
True, the "poilus" fought mainly against the Germans on the French and Belgian front. French divisions were also sent to support Italy against the Austrians, to the Middle-East in cooperation with the British against the Turks, and in the Balkans were their action under Franchet d'Esperey was decisive in the collapse of Bulgaria and the Austrian empire.
Fridomfry 3 years ago
"Ponticelli was the last of the "hairy ones," which is a nickname given to unshaven troops who embodied French defiance against the" GERMANS (although French soldiers sometimes fought against the Austrians too).
malchikinus 3 years ago
In the name of France Thank you my friend for ur coment.
USHomeboy 3 years ago 3
@malchikinus HE WAS ITALIAN
HE WAS IN THE ITALIANS TROOPS BETWEEN 1915-1918
GrandeurFrancaise 1 year ago
Repose en paix poilu.
penzman 3 years ago 2
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Viva La France!
thistlewarrior 3 years ago 3