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  • While watching this there is a youtube add in the top right corner "Daily Bible Guide click here".

  • @ScientificChristian1 I shouldn't be as stubborn as to insinuate that I won't read your replies and won't let you have the last word. In fact, I will most definitely read your replies and invite you to create them. However, this will be my last post as it's necessary for life to go on whether or not we agree, and frankly, I'm a little tired of the debate. Again, best wishes.

  • @ScientificChristian1 4) Morality is not religion-based. They come from personal experiences, raw emotions, empathy, interactions, lessons learned throughout your life. I believe that the bible should be taught as literature and not truth. It is a great collection of stories to which many sects of the humanities owes its understanding to, but apart from that, it is simply a book which provides no evidentiary support to any truth of the tenets of the religion and should be viewed as such. Done.

  • @ScientificChristian1 3) I'm not attacking your religion as a Christian, but I oppose religion as a whole. The fact that religions teach and indoctrinate children to believe and fear an eternity in hell is comparable to rape of the mind. How dare adults teach children to live in a world where they have to fear their own actions, hinder their ability to treat EVERYONE equally and bar them from rational thinking, discussion and questioning imposed beliefs by natural inheritance of religion.

  • @ScientificChristian1 1) Give up the communism argument. It isn't getting you anywhere and like I said, Dawkins has explained countless times. Go find it, I'm not your personal Google.

    2) "Godless societies" are fairly recent in terms of public admission due to the scientific repression religion has fuelled. In terms of Stalin and Mao, it was Leninism and Marxism beliefs which lead to the turmoil of the people, and not necessarily the freedom from religion, which is the definition of atheism.

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  • @ScientificChristian1 Listen, I'm not here to change your ways. You seem to put up this crazy defense even after I let it go and wished you the best of luck. We probably could debate for days on end, and I appreciate some truths to which you speak. So I will simply leave it at the fact that we both have our own opinions - and here are my final comments: (continued)

  • This is the same weapon Hitler used, his (idiotic retard) demeaning attitude is exactly how Hitler convinced millions of Germans to look the other way.Here he admits to his militant attitude, and shows why atheism and godlessness always leads to chaos and death. almost 100 million by communist alone not including wars. Who ever is in power when they do not have a moral compass to go by has killed when it suited their needs. Watch the history channel or read history it is all there.

  • @ScientificChristian1

    "shows why atheism and godlessness always leads to chaos and death." That's a pretty bold statement. Tell me how did Samuel Clemens, Richard Feynman, and Brad Pitts atheism lead to chaos and death

  • @NotDuncan those are individuals, name a godless society that did not murder and pillage.

  • @ScientificChristian1 Name any society that has not raped and pillaged, I want to make one thing perfectly clear to you. Religions are the one that from the start have claimed that they not only have the only moral high ground but also that they are the moral authority. Bad people are bad good people are good, but then again at the base of your religion is the idea that people are inherently evil. In the end that stops me from having much of a dialogue with you.

  • @Not Even Dawkins in the video said ridicule is perfectly acceptable people need to learn to get along. True Christianity claims only that people are forgiven not better, I can debate with anyone intelligently I use facts. Atheists do not like the facts neither do Catholics,and Radical Muslims. Because the past is filled with bloodshed Communism in the last 120 years about 100 million deaths, Catholic historically 60 million deaths, Radical islam millions. These are their own numbers on WIKI.

  • @ScientificChristian1

    Name an Abrahamic religion that did not murder and pillage in the name of God.

    Listen, judging by the fact that you 'liked' the video entitled "OMG! Is Barack Obama the Antichrist? Proof!!!", it seems to me as though you jump to conclusions without using any sense of reasoning and defend yourself with the (widely used among believers) "communist" argument, which Dawkins has clearly answered numerous times so I will let you do the research on that one. (cont)

  • @deemer595 did you research what the video said or are you jumping to a conclusion. I have heard about the Antichrist and Obama since before he was president and I usually write them off as nonsense. However there are some wild coincidences. I personally do not think he is reptilian, antichrist, or even evil. I do not agree with his policies but I think he is doing what he thinks is best.

  • @ScientificChristian1 Yes, I watched the video. I thought it was ridiculous. I don't make decisions from "wild coincidences" or hunches -- just reason and evidence. However, I did notice that you failed to name an Abrahamic religion that did not murder or pillage in the name of God in contrast to your earlier argument. Though honestly, my intention isn't to convince you to rule out your faith or change your mind, but to perhaps convince you to think more freely and more critically. Best wishes.

  • @deemer595 Mine has never murdered that was the point. Catholicism is not Christian though it claims to be. If you would have read all of my posts here you will see that I say Religion with too much power is not much better than a godless society. America has been a very good balance until about 20 years ago.

  • @deemer595 I can also play the same game. Can you name a godless society that has not treated their people like cattle? Murdering and plundering those that were of another viewpoint. The Judeo Christian values that America was founded on have created the fairest system of Government in history. It has also done more good in the world than any 5 countries in history. It is certainly not perfect but has protected the world from communism which killed almost 100 million in last 110 years.

  • @deemer595 as far as Dawkins he has gone from scientist to militant. He advocated ridicule as a means if necessary, which equates to bullying which is illegal in most states. As far as the abrahamic religion, I am an evangelical Christian and we are usually on the receiving end of the violence, from the catholic church or muslims when they are in power.

  • @ScientificChristian1

    So I will leave you with a quote from American physicist, Steven Weinberg.

    "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

  • @deemer595 not true watch third reich the fall on the history channel. Good people that kept journals talked about how they were lied to in the beginning but then were in over their heads. It had nothing to do with religion.Who we choose to listen to affects who we become. Hitler, Stalin, Osama, certain Popes, Che, Mao, etc. all have one thing in common. They used other people by misleading them on the facts. Abuse of power is not picky, any one can fall for it if they don't check facts.

  • @ScientificChristian1 "This is the same weapon Hitler used, his (idiotic retard) demeaning attitude is exactly how Hitler convinced millions of Germans to look the other way."

    Fact: Hitler charisma coupled with the German people hopelessness following the harsh repercussions they faced as a consequence of WW1 enabled him to rise into power. On top of that very few Germans actually knew what was happening in the death camps.

  • @NotDuncan Wrong Germans knew it was just on the history channel yesterday WATCH IT and learn what happens when Darwinian evolution is used by people in power. Letters from Germans and other people throughout Europe that could not believe the atrocities being unleashed by humans. They called the Jews swine, they called the Poles, cattle, they called the Russians swine, They called Americans crazed lunatics that want to kill. This propaganda of we are superior is exactly what Dawkins is doing.

  • @ScientificChristian1 For an atheist he sure used a lot of catholic symbolism.

  • @NotDuncan I am not saying that Dawkins is a murderer. I am saying that when you take people and reduce them to just another animal this is what you get in a very short time.

  • @ScientificChristian1 national socialist germany was not an atheistic state, please check your facts. mao, stalin, pol pot and kim sung il all set themselves up as godlike supreme leaders which is just religion with a makeover for the 20th century. i don't need to believe in ghosts, spirits or god to know that hurting others is wrong. are you telling me that the only thing stopping you from being a rapist, pedophile or murderer is your fear of god, that is truly frightening.

  • @The72koenig Let me get my facts straight here communism is responsible for almost 100 million deaths by itself, 60-65mil in china, 20-25 mil in Russia and this is THEIR numbers so they may be a little low. Then there are other smaller states that have killed up to 2 mil a piece is that straight enough for you. These are countries starving and shooting their own people. In a godless society you are cattle, nothing more than another mouth to feed period.

  • @ScientificChristian1 thank for ignoring every fact and salient point i made, you do nothing to dispel the idea of the myopic theist. communism is a 20th century religion just as murderous and horrible as the abrahamic religions. is the only thing stopping you from rape and murder the moral guidance of god?

  • @The72koenig It is not the fear of God it is the raising up of humans as special in the eyes of a creator. When this is gone then the atrocities brought on by those godless systems is what you get EVERY TIME. This is because you have no value, this is why liberals cry when they see a dead cat but approve abortion. I love animals and humans because my creator finds value in them. Humans are different you have a creative part of you that a chimp or dog does not.

  • @The72koenig do you really think that opposing thumbs is the only difference? It is your intellect and creative properties that set you apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. That is because you are made in the image of god The Imago Dei. You have the ability to look outside your own reality and ponder a chimp does not. Remember when the monkey in NY ripped off the woman's face they didn't say how evil it was. It is an animal that acts purely on instinct, humans also have reasoning.

  • @ScientificChristian1 first off it's very difficult to argue with someone who's own facts are so glaringly wrong, the only thing it illustrates is how ridiculous their world view must be if they can't even get basic facts correct. it's "opposable thumb" not "opposing thumbs" and chimpanzees aren't monkeys they are apes.

  • croco-duck tie! classic

  • He was in Dublin?! Why didn't I know??

  • Hahaha people follow this guy like he is some sort of occult leader.

  • @truth2350 People recognize the truth when they hear it. I'll follow this guy over some pederast pope or violent imam any day :)

  • @megamarsvin And youll do it with a glazed look on your face. thanks for proving my point, and nice to hear your driven by the media (all popes are pedophiles). If you had a conscience you wouuld see that atheist like dawkins give atheism a bad name by turning it into what it hates... a dogma. As if the atheist movement isnt one and the same with the animosity in the world, thats laughable considering you wish to abolish people's beliefs.

  • @truth2350 Haha ok so that was a little glib I apologize, I assumed you'd understand the meaning being a thoughtful being who would never have the glazed look of a follower (or sheep if you will ;)) I don't think the pope is a pederast himself, but it's been well documented he protected them to save face for the church.

    Also thank you for bringing up that old chestnut, but there's no such thing as dogmatic atheism, just like there are no rules to not playing poker.

  • @megamarsvin Militant atheism is dogmatic atheism, thanks for the cop out.

  • @truth2350 Oh another glib jibe desperately attempting to mask itself as an argument. Ok then, please enlighten the class as to "militant atheism"'s dogma. What's the central tenet?

  • @truth2350 They don't follow him some religious bigot, they listen to reasoning and logic in order to get to reality and truth...

  • I didn't know atheist had yearly pilgrims... jokes, jokes, lets not get carried away.

  • Scientist, Author, Coattail rider, Pastor..now Rock Star??, he's wearing blush...rock on! Dawkins gives Atheism a bad name.

  • RICHARD DAWKINS = HIGHLY RENOWNED PROFESSOR... uses a mac......

  • @thingonthewalludnt We all make mistakes. :)

    

  • Calling a religious person names is not the most effective thing to do, it is however, the most satisfying thing to do, decisions decisions.

  • @yatter1

    hehe brilliant :)

  • @yatter1 Calling religious people names is perhaps instantly satisfying, but I would content that it's much more satisfying to lead religious people into severe cognitive dissonance using mere reasoned thought, preferably in a condescendingly patient, pacifying, professor-like manner. In such an argument, do not seek instant gratification; take the long way, and slowly, but steadily lead your opponent to see the silly, irrational, counterintuitive nature of his notions and positions.

  • @Pomme843 Yeah I know, but It´s just so much more fun doing it my way. You can´t talk sense to those wankers so might as well have a laugh at their expense. The bastards´ll kill you if they got the chance, I figure a little fun poking is the least they deserve.

  • @2105 man, watch some more Dawkins videos, he says over and OVER again that he doesn't think there is definitely no God in the same way that he can't be sure there are definitely no fairies or unicorns. Don't willingly swallow the bible then immediately judge everything and everyone else in relation to what it says, you may aswell be just as passionate about Peter Pan, World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings x

  • @2105Jack When did you speak to God then? Did you ask him about next weeks lottery numbers?

  • @2105Jack argumentum ad hominem.

  • @mkrulic517439 Isnt that rich, when thats exactly what he is talking about and does consitantly?

  • @2105Jack Obviosuly your the smartest person on the planet and that's one brainy argument! I wonder how many hours of ruminationation took you to reach those profound insights.

  • @MGX890 It was instantaneous! It seems you guys dont like me repeating his words... It offends you somehow?

  • @MGX890 *obviously *you're *rumination 

  • @2105Jack Impossible since god doesn't exist.

  • @2105Jack Actually, the quote is "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'" It's rather pathetic that an Atheist like me knows the Bible better than you.

  • @BruceNorris2112 Your rather weak point being?

  • So many atheists in one room, the powers of Satan concentrated... and look what they do.. share ideas! to hell with them.

  • @dopeasfuckk Lol

  • I believe in frogs!!! and Gott, dogs, and logs...

  • man..i gota go there

  • When Richard Dawkins speaks, even God listens. That's how awesome the Dawkins is.

  • @LongDriveChamp03

    Dawkins is a joke.

  • @owensphil

    .........lol

  • @owensphil you're a moron

  • @MrHawleywood21

    > you're a moron

    your mama

  • @owensphil How's that???

  • @LongDriveChamp03 God doesn't just listen. He takes notes.

  • @LongDriveChamp03 no he dont because god doesnt exist

  • @LongDriveChamp03 only because he is keeping tabs on how many he leads astray.

  • Basically he is trying to say that we should not have a direct conflict with the Theist.. however we should shame them... !

  • @AtheistIreland Thanks for the upload. As an ego-maniacal American, I desperately wish The Dawk would immigrate, but I'm grateful to have watched him speaking in your lovely land. Any opportunity to see something new from him is appreciated.

  • 8:56 distracted by boob or a dry throat? You call it. X^D

  • No different from any other organized religion that congregates to share and celebrate their belief system.

  • @owensphil The difference is that these people live in reality.

  • Its funny how when you say to your kid: "Hey kid by the way we lied about santa claus" and your child says "I thought so! It was somewhat unbelieveble."

    But when a religious parent asks the child "Hey kid do you love god?" the kid may say "I have never met him so I don't know" then the parent says "Don't be ungratefull you love god because I say so"

    It kinda make children think less logical because you discourage thinking.

  • @BboyKeny Dawkins bless logical thinking :)

  • I have a question, why is it that the brighest minds of our race are atheiest ?

  • @Pepeseinn The brightest minds can see through the non-sense, and they only care about what is true :)

  • @Pepeseinn Because to believe in any religion requires that you can accept non factual information as factual information.

    It basicly means if you say a blue ball, and i say it's red, you believe it to be red.

    Obviously, that means your a fucking idiot ;)

  • @Seneric man, that answer made me laugh and have a slight erection(no homo)

  • I don't agree with Dawkins "solution". He seems to be forgetting that many scientists who were right about their "ridiculous" claims were ridiculed. Seems like a slippery slope; just because you're ridiculed for something doesn't mean your wrong and that will only create hostility between people.

  • Atheists conventions: the basement dwelling, neck-bearded arrogant douchebags come out of the sun and meet together, how nice.

  • @SkateObsession Whats wrong with basements? My basement's refurbished, has a 50 inch tv and a bar fully stocked. I would rather live there than most people actual houses. I don't understand the stigma attached to basements because mines a haven and heaven.

  • @12Ominous Sounds pretty sweet, bro.

  • @SkateObsession You used sarcasm and opinionated descriptive adjectives to attack a group of people out of the blue, anonymously on YouTube. I'm pretty sure that makes YOU the "basement-dwelling, neck-bearded arrogant douchebag". Also, you can't come out of the sun. If you meant "come out INTO the sun" then I'm pretty sure that Atheists spend more time out in the light of day than people who go to church and pray all the time.

  • @rudydapup12 God bless you ;)

  • @SkateObsession Of course, it's not like religious people don't get together once a week, dressed in their Sunday best, to sing songs - and listen to lectures most often delivered by men in Mediaeval cosplay outfits - about how pitiful and "sinful" their species is, in order to please the eternally-insecure invisible Alpha Male in the sky.

    Before taking a pop at the atheist conventions, take a closer look at the ridiculous weekly Sunday conventions that your lot partake in.

  • Champions see the apocolypse! Opression University. Training faith heads for White Jesus :D

  • Idiotic retard....as opposed to the smart retards...lol Dawkins

  • @Jamespot24 You're retarded. No, fuck that, you're an idiotic retard! Haha, of course not talking about you.

  • @co2prod okay?

  • @Jamespot24 What are you, half banana?

  • Darwin is god. Everyone knows this. Every Human anyways

  • @699backstab lol that is ridiculous. Darwin is man.

  • Now, THIS is HD!

  • believe it is not so simple to say that everyone who is an atheist is mentally secure and everyone who is a theist is mentally insecure. You know that is not the case. Nevertheless I hate reading about folk who have had truly horrendous experiences thanks to religious nutters...I had something like that but nothing like what some have had to go through but had time to "discover" what I believe life is about without those weird leaders telling me what to do etc

  • @Juneaugold123

    Hahaha. The free ham sandwiches were quite a lure with the hotel staff too!! Did you notice at the end of the video @23:36 that the atheist who made it cannot even spell 'atheist'!!

  • Please everybody change the expreshion (OMG) to OMD .....oh my Dawin. its a start to change the language

  • @thescroopy1 hahaha

    I say OMNg Oh My Nonexistent god

  • @ElizabethLCRandom

    haaaaaa

  • @thescroopy1 Dammit now I wished I used omg before you said this, great idea btw

  • @thescroopy1 I think OML is better.Oh my life! Thats what we all want.

  • great

  • I want that tie!

  • @3xAmigosProductions it is epic

  • 44 people are small minded simpletons

  • idiotic retard!

  • LOVE that Crocoduck tie lol

  • Let's not label anyone as a certain belief, tradition, or creed. Every person is different. Every person has their own individual belief system. Let's allow ourselves, and our children, to have the opportunity to have their own voice in this world and not let them be jumbled up in a broad category... All religion is ultimately a bad thing, because blind faith is the beginning and the foundation of being subject to manipulation...

  • I never realised just how popular atheist conventions were!

  • @TheCartesianTheist well it certainly looks well attended, but apparently 80% were tricked into believing there was free Guinness at lunchtime. By 3pm it was just Dawkins and some lost tourists so they wheeled in folk from the nearest old folks home. Looks like a great old knees up though, they cracked some great jokes apparently.

  • @Juneaugold123 Queue the laughing, closed-eyed theists.

  • @weatrga I had my eyes closed as an atheist.....at least I have experienced both perspectives. And you Sir?

  • @Juneaugold123 I was forced by threat of eternal damnation for nearly 18 years of my life to believe that I could Rape, Murder, Steal and break any law I desired for all of my life, as long as I said "Oops, I'm sorry!" at the end and everything (literally everything) I could possibly do would be forgiven. I was told that even Hitler would be allowed into heaven if he confessed his sins and was truly sorry about what he did. As I moved on to college and was allowed to view the ...

  • @Juneaugold123 world through my own eyes, and not just those of the people who were teaching and ordering me around, I was able to realize that a good 90% of what I had been told my entire life was complete, unfair, unjust bullshit designed to give mentally insecure people something to look forward to at the end of their life. I'm not so scared of going to sleep one day and not waking up that I have to devote my entire existence to hoping that I don't offend my imaginary friend.

  • @weatrga I take your point and I respect what you went through and it's all to a familiar story unfortunately...but I think the problem is that there are too many nutters in the world of religion who use it for their own means and ends. Let's assume for 1 moment God exists (I know you don't want to but let's assume), I think he would disassociate himself from their warped and retarded view of what it means to represent him. I understand where the "mentally insecure" comment comes from but I ..

  • Confused by the whole notion of labeling a child at all, though I agree a child can't possibly be determined as a Catholic child etc., a child most definitely cannot be labeled a marxist child either, Children invariably do believe in a great deal of things, so labeling them as atheists is just as absurd.

  • @taylorannize "so labeling them as atheists is just as absurd." No it isn't, if the concept of God has never entered your mind, then it would be absurd to call you anything but an atheist, you wouldn't be called an atheist, you wouldn't ever need to hear or understand the word atheist, but you would be, by default an atheist. It's not a religion, its a position of none belief, that would never need to be mentioned except for the fact there are so many insane 'faith heads' around, to quote RD.

  • RICHARD DAWKINS IS A TOOL TO SATAN AND HAS BEEN SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN THE MEDIA.....SATAN IS HAPPY IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD OR YOU DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU TO BURN BECAUSE HE HATES YOU AND FEEDS PEOPLES MINDS LIES BECAUSE AS JESUS SAID HE IS A LIAR AND MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM ,WHEN HE LIES HE IS SPEAKING HIS LANGUAGE" HE HAS NO LAWS AS AN ATHIEST OR A SATANIST BECAUSE THEIR SOULS ARE LAWLESS WITH NO CONSCIENCE OR LOVE AT ALL

  • @IdigAponyONtheROOF you best be trollin

  • @IdigAponyONtheROOF You're ass at trolling.

  • @IdigAponyONtheROOF Yes, yes - and CAPS lock on = instant credibility. Or maybe you just hope those caps will hide your apparent inability to punctuate.

  • I see Peter Singer in the audience. Big Up to you sir.

  • This video is remarkable! I had no idea that athiesm had become its own religon...and they're recruiting! Where do I send my tithe? You know...to support the effort.

  • @gerry4ta atheism isn't a religion

  • @123456789robbie I disagree, and Richard Dawkins is the "pope".

  • @gerry4ta but, he isn't

  • @123456789robbie Well, I must say that I'm very, very disappointed in your comment, Robbie.

  • @gerry4ta okay, how about this. look up religion, it means "The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods". now, that doesn't really fit atheism, does it?

  • @123456789robbie Okay, okay, I give up...you've convinced me. You are an idiot. How was school today?

  • @gerry4ta how have i convinced you of that?

  • @123456789robbie Because you seem to be incapable of understanding sarcasm. Good luck with being an athiest...if that's what you are.

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  • @nsugathadasa Me thinks that you take me a tad too literally, sir/madam.

  • @gerry4ta I don't know how they're swindling a religion out of believing in the existence of nothing, it's quite fascinating and very intellectually done, I'll be anxious to see if people convert and donate to the religion of nothingness

  • Question for athiests: Suppose an alien intelligence with the ability to snuff you out of existance or grant you eternal life shows up and it wants you to call it "god". Then what?

  • @gerry4ta

    Really? Suppose they said "you guys need to get rid of all that religious nonsense.

    We´ve seen the Universe, it´s crap. Now, get on with your lives."

    Such challenges are TOTALLY irrelevant to this subject and does not deserve to be taken seriously.

  • @jonsen82 Got your attention, didn't I?

  • @jonsen82 You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

  • @gerry4ta It would be akin to somebody pointing a gun at you, you'd call him anything he wanted you to.

  • @MrVillamike You're obviously a glass-half-empty kind of guy, huh?

  • @gerry4ta No, I don't believe in god just as I don't believe in leprechauns.

    It's called reality.

  • @MrVillamike To each his own. Good luck with that.

  • the most dangerous thing happening is the last point Dawkings makes in this video. ie how intellektuals and politicians are sucking up for Muslims etc. just so that they can look like nice guys or gaining votes. and not realising the danger in what they are doing.

  • Dick the Dawk cant remember all the lies he wrote

  • @doncourtreporter I never said it was

  • To counter dawkins, I would check out the work of rupert sheldrake who has the opposing view but speaks just as eloquently.

  • @Liam2621 Eloquence is not the test.

  • I think the real argument here is logic versus emotion, I don't think many people are able to see it. For example humans have 2 intelligences. Mr Dawkins seems mentally very intelligent as are a lot of atheists, yet emotional intelligence Isn't taught in schools so a lot of atheists seem to lack that, to me emotions are far more important than logic but people choose what's best for them which is cool.

  • It is unwise to have a life conducted by emotion rather than reason!

  • @lachezar43 It's a lot more authentic. Society makes it difficult though.

  • @Liam2621

    I agree. Though the emotions are important for us (quite much) they are neither source of wisdom nor knowledge! Societies must realize that sooner or later.