my beautiful brothr; may Allah keep u strong during this trial i read about it today; subhanaALlah; i love u dear for the sake of Allah and hope you make jannah; br Ib
@Louie101ish I will not debate with someone ignorant, such as your self the prophet muhammad(pbuh) wouldn't need to do crimes, or be greedy, because before his prophethood, he was married to a wealthy widow, who gave him her business, so he did not want for nothing. Second of all during prophethood, he did not keep his war booty, he gave it to the poor and desitute people, 3rd of all a narrow mind such as yourself, should not use his broad tongue to call people stupid.
THAT YOU WILL EVER BE, OR YOU COULD EVER HOPE TO BE IN 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 LIFETIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jazakalak khair for removing that comment my dear respected brother. Because Islam is Al Haqq, the proof surrounds everyday to man who said muhammad(pbuh) was not a prophet astifiruallah, why would a man lead battles, recieve revelation, run a state, deal with idol worshipers, deal with jews who hate him, take care and provide for a big big family, yet still stand the whole night in prayer? even if muhammad(pbuh) wasnt a prophet but I know he is a prophet, HE IS STILL 100000000000000000000000000
my dear respect brothers I feel that its best not to debate with christians, or anybody else for that matter due to the fact they will never accept you even with clear proofs, until you are one of them, we should focus on seeking knowledge of our own deen, and leave them to their own desires. better for us
@live215 "I feel that its best not to debate with christians, or anybody else for that matter due to the fact they will never accept you even with clear proofs"
RE
You have no clear proofs. You don't have any more proof than a daily horoscope. There's no reason to accept it because the "proof" is absolutely laughable. That's why you shouldn't debate. You're fantasy world will disintegrate under scrutiny.
As for this video, the Quran was obviously produced by a human in the 7th century.
It's true that you cannot escape death, so why fear it? Religion is the fear response forcing you to confect a fantasy to comfort yourself with because you fear death. Death is the perfectly natural conclusion to life. Get over your fear and you won't need the superstitious fantasies.
@Christheatheist1 True muslims do not fear death. I used to be an atheist myself, when I started to learn about Islam it just made a whole lot of sense more. Also watching muslims and atheists debate helped me come to my conclusion. Atheists love to be close minded in the name of open mindedness. Right now you probably see it totally different. But May Allah guide you to this path of logic, it will be the best decision you could have ever made. Don't insult though I don't have time for that.
you have no reality but your own invented reality in your mind of disbelief, islam is not all the other fake man made pagan religions, Islam is the submission and complete surrender to the Creator of the universe, belief in all His Messengers and books (only as they were revealed) and the quran is the last book still original never changed not even one letter, read it and analyze it and fear dying as a non muslim or the fire is your eternal life and this is the true reality..
@chekdamize7 - I don't use belief. Reality is there whether you believe in it or not. You use a system of belief which denies reality in favor of a comforting fantasy. I know for a fact that we all die. I have accepted that. You haven't. The brutal, primitive superstition you subscribe to ultimately cannot protect you from this simple truth. I hope one day you escape the brainwashing and indoctrination and enjoy at least part of your one and only life.
@Christheatheist1 Nice way to make things up as you go. Believing this universe just came out of nothing for nothing is quite mythical if you ask me, enjoy.
@theproudONE92 - I was saying that YOU believe these things. Are you thick? Let me make this simple for your simple mind: YOU believe in magical, invisible wizards. YOU believe in talking snakes. I believe in none of those things. The Universe came from purely natural causes. And you are an annoying twat who cannot be reasoned with.
@Christheatheist1 It's pretty obvious what you meant, you don't need to explain it to me.. and I reply once again.. Believing this universe just came out of nothing for nothing is quite mythical if you ask me, enjoy.
@theproudONE92 - Get up off your pillow, grab your spare change and take the bus down to the nearest Natural History Museum and see it for yourself. Of course you'll deny it's veracity because of your brainwashing, but it's worth a try.
@Christheatheist1 why would I deny it??? Islam is not christianity, we do not deny things that really happened. Our Qur'an has everything written in it that you would find at a Museum of Natural History..
you fake saudi Salafis who hate the mujahideen and love the kuffar and theur evil arab tyrants, you are the true enemies of islam, you side with the kuffar against the muslims you allow the US to use your bases to bomb the millions of muslims worldwide, you reject Tawhid hakimiyah, so that alone makes you kuffar, you worship your leaders who allie with bush and obama to kill rape and massacre our brothers and sistes, you worship your scholars and on and on.......
subhanallah, you are the khawarij, you are accusing them of being khawarij!
the defenition of a khawarij, is this: "they kill muslims and leave the non-muslims alone"
i dont see this guy going out and killing muslims. Or do you call them khawarij because they have the "I Pledge alliegance" ? AQ is neither khawarij, they kill the disbelievers and leave the muslims alone. if AQ where to kill believers and non-mus they would not fit the defenition anyway. and i am the jahil?
@muzzammil73 There are no gods, we don't have souls, and none of us will live forever. We are only special to ourselves. There is no one out there to judge us except ourselves; we do it all the time and project that any one of the gods we've created will do the same. It is all very obvious when you look at it from outside of religion.
@matthewtaylorbrown I used to be an atheist myself, when I started to learn about Islam it just made a whole lot of sense more. Also watching muslims and atheists debate helped me come to my conclusion. Atheists love to be close minded in the name of open mindedness. Right now you probably see it totally different. But May Allah guide you to this path of logic, it will be the best decision you could have ever made. Don't insult though I don't have time for that.
@theproudONE92 What was it for you that made you confident that you WERE an atheist? I've heard many times that 'I used to be an atheist', when in fact they were just weak Christians, Jews, or Muslims that didn't follow their religion. Was there actually a point in your life when you KNEW there were no gods? Being close minded is relative. If you call being open to belief that mythical characters actually exist, I would call that being too open-minded. Note that we are all free to believe.
@matthewtaylorbrown I was confident their was no such thing as a God. At the time it made sense that religion was man made. And no I wasn't a weak muslim I was a neo-atheist always debating the existence of God. Believing the universe came out of nothing, for nothing, is also a rabidly mythical belief in my opinion. I mean for all we know their could be mythical creatures but we don't know anything for sure because we can't see it. In Islam no one is forced to believe but through proofs and...
@theproudONE92 I'm satisfied that you were actually an atheist. It is very difficult for believers to fake prior disbelieve, not that you had to prove anything to me. What of the other gods, you seem to have been an atheist to just one god in your statement. Were they any other gods or religions that you entertained, even a little? Were you able to dismiss other gods on their own merit or was disbelieve in one god somehow enough to dismiss all the others?
@matthewtaylorbrown .. evidences one suggests to himself their must be a creator. Contrary to popular western beliefs, Islam is very rational and logical. I being a person of ration and logic (as so I perceive, you may think otherwise though), I fell in love with the Islamic religion and I practice it ardently now, alhamdulillah(grateful to thy God).
@theproudONE92 I have been surprised at Catholic and Islamic declarations that show me they are rational and logical thinkers. By this I mean the body-churches, not individuals. I have also seen individuals of various religions (I used to live in Turkey) demonstrate capital use of both. I've also see the complete lack of both by every group imaginable, including atheists. None of these groups have a monopoly on members with high or low IQs. I'm sure you are both logical and rational. ...
@theproudONE92 That damned god thing keeps getting in the way. It's like being gay, it sounds great, but there's that whole penis thing. Yikes.
If it is worth anything, I don't consider Islam to be any better or worth than Judaism or Christianity. I put them all in the same bucket. Ancient tales of talking serpents, resurrections, and splitting moons all sounds the same to me. :)
@matthewtaylorbrown You have not studied the religions in depth. Islam is the way to go not because I am a muslim but because I looked into the 3 myself, and besides I know many jews that are muslim now and they have shared some knowledge that would reinforce my conviction. And the moon has been split no denying that the rest of what you mentioned sounds like its from the bible we don't have that stuff in the Qur'an.
@theproudONE92 You are being presumptive about my studies, but the issue of the moon requires no more study than claims of people being resurrected from death. The most significant flaw of most religions aren't the god-claims, but of the most obviously mythical claims. These claims are kin to the same obviously mythical claims of all religions, but seen as truths by members of just one set of bewildering mythical claims. All religions have this in common.
@theproudONE92 I consider Sura 54; the slitting of the moon mythology in Islam. This sounds like an eclipse to me, but is described in terms that must have translated poorly into English. As slitting is not a good description of an observable eclipse. If it literally means the moon was split into two halves of the moon, then it is a great example of a myth.
Or what about the number of years the seven slept in The Cave, dog or not.
You are already aware that I would bring these things up.
@theproudONE92 Belonging to a religion doesn't automatically make someone irrational or illogical. I've known religious people that go about their lives in a perfectly normal way. It is illogical or irrational behavior that usually catches our attention. Killing a woman for being raped or having sex, beheading a child, not taking a child to a doctor, exorcisms (especially that result in death), honor-killings, stoning stubborn boys, burning witches, blood-atonement, suicide bombings, and murder.
@theproudONE92 Belonging to a religion doesn't automatically make someone irrational or illogical. I've known religious people that go about their lives in a perfectly normal way. It is illogical or irrational behavior that usually catches our attention. Killing a woman for being raped or having sex, beheading a child, not taking a child to a doctor, exorcisms (especially that result in death), honor-killings, stoning stubborn boys, burning witches, blood-atonement, suicide bombings, and murder.
Why do muslims constantly blaspheme the koran? no wonder the muslim world is coming apart and allah gives muslim land to jews.
ImFingAwesome 3 weeks ago
my beautiful brothr; may Allah keep u strong during this trial i read about it today; subhanaALlah; i love u dear for the sake of Allah and hope you make jannah; br Ib
ShariahforAustralia 1 month ago
ESELAMUN ALEJKUM VE RAHMETULLHAHI VE BEREKATUHU.Ju pershendes te gjitheve juve vellezer(bradher)musliman
MrZekerijah 1 month ago
@Louie101ish I will not debate with someone ignorant, such as your self the prophet muhammad(pbuh) wouldn't need to do crimes, or be greedy, because before his prophethood, he was married to a wealthy widow, who gave him her business, so he did not want for nothing. Second of all during prophethood, he did not keep his war booty, he gave it to the poor and desitute people, 3rd of all a narrow mind such as yourself, should not use his broad tongue to call people stupid.
live215 4 months ago
THAT YOU WILL EVER BE, OR YOU COULD EVER HOPE TO BE IN 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 LIFETIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
live215 4 months ago
Jazakalak khair for removing that comment my dear respected brother. Because Islam is Al Haqq, the proof surrounds everyday to man who said muhammad(pbuh) was not a prophet astifiruallah, why would a man lead battles, recieve revelation, run a state, deal with idol worshipers, deal with jews who hate him, take care and provide for a big big family, yet still stand the whole night in prayer? even if muhammad(pbuh) wasnt a prophet but I know he is a prophet, HE IS STILL 100000000000000000000000000
live215 4 months ago
jazakAllah khair for this beneficial upload akhi. stay strong.
Mr1Fox9 4 months ago
my dear respect brothers I feel that its best not to debate with christians, or anybody else for that matter due to the fact they will never accept you even with clear proofs, until you are one of them, we should focus on seeking knowledge of our own deen, and leave them to their own desires. better for us
live215 4 months ago
@live215 "I feel that its best not to debate with christians, or anybody else for that matter due to the fact they will never accept you even with clear proofs"
RE
You have no clear proofs. You don't have any more proof than a daily horoscope. There's no reason to accept it because the "proof" is absolutely laughable. That's why you shouldn't debate. You're fantasy world will disintegrate under scrutiny.
As for this video, the Quran was obviously produced by a human in the 7th century.
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
Brilliant, Jazakallahu Khair Brother
dcfnfb121 4 months ago
Everyone watch hamza tzortzis
Hamza5274 4 months ago
جزاكم الله خير ووفقكم الله لما يحبه ويرضاه
AKABA21HAyato 5 months ago
It's true that you cannot escape death, so why fear it? Religion is the fear response forcing you to confect a fantasy to comfort yourself with because you fear death. Death is the perfectly natural conclusion to life. Get over your fear and you won't need the superstitious fantasies.
Christheatheist1 5 months ago
@Christheatheist1 True muslims do not fear death. I used to be an atheist myself, when I started to learn about Islam it just made a whole lot of sense more. Also watching muslims and atheists debate helped me come to my conclusion. Atheists love to be close minded in the name of open mindedness. Right now you probably see it totally different. But May Allah guide you to this path of logic, it will be the best decision you could have ever made. Don't insult though I don't have time for that.
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 - No insult intended. Believe what you like. I choose to operate in reality.
Christheatheist1 5 months ago
@Christheatheist1
you have no reality but your own invented reality in your mind of disbelief, islam is not all the other fake man made pagan religions, Islam is the submission and complete surrender to the Creator of the universe, belief in all His Messengers and books (only as they were revealed) and the quran is the last book still original never changed not even one letter, read it and analyze it and fear dying as a non muslim or the fire is your eternal life and this is the true reality..
chekdamize7 5 months ago
@chekdamize7 - I don't use belief. Reality is there whether you believe in it or not. You use a system of belief which denies reality in favor of a comforting fantasy. I know for a fact that we all die. I have accepted that. You haven't. The brutal, primitive superstition you subscribe to ultimately cannot protect you from this simple truth. I hope one day you escape the brainwashing and indoctrination and enjoy at least part of your one and only life.
Christheatheist1 5 months ago
@Christheatheist1 So did I..
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 - Your world is one of magical, invisible wizards, lakes of fire and talking snakes. Reality has nothing to do with all that.
Christheatheist1 5 months ago
@Christheatheist1 Nice way to make things up as you go. Believing this universe just came out of nothing for nothing is quite mythical if you ask me, enjoy.
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 - I was saying that YOU believe these things. Are you thick? Let me make this simple for your simple mind: YOU believe in magical, invisible wizards. YOU believe in talking snakes. I believe in none of those things. The Universe came from purely natural causes. And you are an annoying twat who cannot be reasoned with.
Christheatheist1 5 months ago
@Christheatheist1 It's pretty obvious what you meant, you don't need to explain it to me.. and I reply once again.. Believing this universe just came out of nothing for nothing is quite mythical if you ask me, enjoy.
theproudONE92 4 months ago
@theproudONE92 - We have evidence, you have fairy tales. We win.
Christheatheist1 4 months ago
@Christheatheist1 lol please enlighten me with your evidence!
theproudONE92 4 months ago
@theproudONE92 - Get up off your pillow, grab your spare change and take the bus down to the nearest Natural History Museum and see it for yourself. Of course you'll deny it's veracity because of your brainwashing, but it's worth a try.
Christheatheist1 4 months ago
@Christheatheist1 why would I deny it??? Islam is not christianity, we do not deny things that really happened. Our Qur'an has everything written in it that you would find at a Museum of Natural History..
theproudONE92 4 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran
he is yet to give us proof, where is your proof?
stupid takfiri
alnarweeg92 5 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran
you fake saudi Salafis who hate the mujahideen and love the kuffar and theur evil arab tyrants, you are the true enemies of islam, you side with the kuffar against the muslims you allow the US to use your bases to bomb the millions of muslims worldwide, you reject Tawhid hakimiyah, so that alone makes you kuffar, you worship your leaders who allie with bush and obama to kill rape and massacre our brothers and sistes, you worship your scholars and on and on.......
chekdamize7 5 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran
subhanallah, you are the khawarij, you are accusing them of being khawarij!
the defenition of a khawarij, is this: "they kill muslims and leave the non-muslims alone"
i dont see this guy going out and killing muslims. Or do you call them khawarij because they have the "I Pledge alliegance" ? AQ is neither khawarij, they kill the disbelievers and leave the muslims alone. if AQ where to kill believers and non-mus they would not fit the defenition anyway. and i am the jahil?
alnarweeg92 5 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran how are he and his friend khawarij?
Prouduce your proof if you are truthful
alnarweeg92 5 months ago
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LearnToReadTheKuran 5 months ago
Brilliant Work, Jazakallahu Khair
dcfnfb121 5 months ago
Allahu Akbar
mujahidfisabillilah1 5 months ago
Death is inevitable, we will all die. There are no gods.
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown there is no Gods true but there is one GOD Allah and we return to Him and we will be judged
muzzammil73 5 months ago
@muzzammil73 salaam alaykum my sister, always happy to see that you are OK.
mujahidfisabillilah1 5 months ago
@muzzammil73 There are no gods, we don't have souls, and none of us will live forever. We are only special to ourselves. There is no one out there to judge us except ourselves; we do it all the time and project that any one of the gods we've created will do the same. It is all very obvious when you look at it from outside of religion.
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown I used to be an atheist myself, when I started to learn about Islam it just made a whole lot of sense more. Also watching muslims and atheists debate helped me come to my conclusion. Atheists love to be close minded in the name of open mindedness. Right now you probably see it totally different. But May Allah guide you to this path of logic, it will be the best decision you could have ever made. Don't insult though I don't have time for that.
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 What was it for you that made you confident that you WERE an atheist? I've heard many times that 'I used to be an atheist', when in fact they were just weak Christians, Jews, or Muslims that didn't follow their religion. Was there actually a point in your life when you KNEW there were no gods? Being close minded is relative. If you call being open to belief that mythical characters actually exist, I would call that being too open-minded. Note that we are all free to believe.
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown I was confident their was no such thing as a God. At the time it made sense that religion was man made. And no I wasn't a weak muslim I was a neo-atheist always debating the existence of God. Believing the universe came out of nothing, for nothing, is also a rabidly mythical belief in my opinion. I mean for all we know their could be mythical creatures but we don't know anything for sure because we can't see it. In Islam no one is forced to believe but through proofs and...
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 I'm satisfied that you were actually an atheist. It is very difficult for believers to fake prior disbelieve, not that you had to prove anything to me. What of the other gods, you seem to have been an atheist to just one god in your statement. Were they any other gods or religions that you entertained, even a little? Were you able to dismiss other gods on their own merit or was disbelieve in one god somehow enough to dismiss all the others?
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown .. evidences one suggests to himself their must be a creator. Contrary to popular western beliefs, Islam is very rational and logical. I being a person of ration and logic (as so I perceive, you may think otherwise though), I fell in love with the Islamic religion and I practice it ardently now, alhamdulillah(grateful to thy God).
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 I have been surprised at Catholic and Islamic declarations that show me they are rational and logical thinkers. By this I mean the body-churches, not individuals. I have also seen individuals of various religions (I used to live in Turkey) demonstrate capital use of both. I've also see the complete lack of both by every group imaginable, including atheists. None of these groups have a monopoly on members with high or low IQs. I'm sure you are both logical and rational. ...
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown I agree with your assertions. So what is keeping you from becoming a muslim?
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 That damned god thing keeps getting in the way. It's like being gay, it sounds great, but there's that whole penis thing. Yikes.
If it is worth anything, I don't consider Islam to be any better or worth than Judaism or Christianity. I put them all in the same bucket. Ancient tales of talking serpents, resurrections, and splitting moons all sounds the same to me. :)
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown You have not studied the religions in depth. Islam is the way to go not because I am a muslim but because I looked into the 3 myself, and besides I know many jews that are muslim now and they have shared some knowledge that would reinforce my conviction. And the moon has been split no denying that the rest of what you mentioned sounds like its from the bible we don't have that stuff in the Qur'an.
theproudONE92 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 You are being presumptive about my studies, but the issue of the moon requires no more study than claims of people being resurrected from death. The most significant flaw of most religions aren't the god-claims, but of the most obviously mythical claims. These claims are kin to the same obviously mythical claims of all religions, but seen as truths by members of just one set of bewildering mythical claims. All religions have this in common.
matthewtaylorbrown 4 months ago
@matthewtaylorbrown ok so tell me of some mythology in Islam..
theproudONE92 4 months ago
@theproudONE92 I consider Sura 54; the slitting of the moon mythology in Islam. This sounds like an eclipse to me, but is described in terms that must have translated poorly into English. As slitting is not a good description of an observable eclipse. If it literally means the moon was split into two halves of the moon, then it is a great example of a myth.
Or what about the number of years the seven slept in The Cave, dog or not.
You are already aware that I would bring these things up.
matthewtaylorbrown 4 months ago
@theproudONE92 Belonging to a religion doesn't automatically make someone irrational or illogical. I've known religious people that go about their lives in a perfectly normal way. It is illogical or irrational behavior that usually catches our attention. Killing a woman for being raped or having sex, beheading a child, not taking a child to a doctor, exorcisms (especially that result in death), honor-killings, stoning stubborn boys, burning witches, blood-atonement, suicide bombings, and murder.
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
@theproudONE92 Belonging to a religion doesn't automatically make someone irrational or illogical. I've known religious people that go about their lives in a perfectly normal way. It is illogical or irrational behavior that usually catches our attention. Killing a woman for being raped or having sex, beheading a child, not taking a child to a doctor, exorcisms (especially that result in death), honor-killings, stoning stubborn boys, burning witches, blood-atonement, suicide bombings, and murder.
matthewtaylorbrown 5 months ago
Allahu Akbar our Brother Abdul Samia is Back Masha' allah.
Aws8819 5 months ago