actually d dorian is in c major because if u take d major and flaten the third and the 7th what do u get u get all the notes in a c major which is no sharps and flats if u do what i said and lower the 3rd and 7th in the key of d major u would have seen that there are only 2 sharps in the key of d they are f# and c# so what do u know f# and C# are the 3rd and 7th the same thing for the key of c major lower the third and 7th that is the dorian formula then u would see that your in Bb major (Bb Eb)
wrong d to d is not a dorian scale relative to c, dorian scale relative to c is based on Bb because c is the second note in the Bb scale and dorian is the second mode. so basically a Bb major scale with emphasis on c (home). if using a 1-4-5 progression you'd use C, Eb, F everybody is so messed up on modes. even teachers!???
@waltribeiro my explanation is a good one, you're convinced as everyone else that modes are the same as scales and they are not. fret24 was trying to point out that the tonal center doesn't change and that is exactly why modes are different than scales. most would think a dorian mode for the key of c would conist of the notes in a d scale, wrong again as most are twice as confused. the dorian mode of c consists of notes in the Bb scale. playing 6-2-5-1, 1-4-5...pick ur notes
I like the tutorials and I understand the reasoning for your "chat mode" (for questions and such), but I find it distracting. If I could I would cut the bottom part of your upload off and just concentrate on your tutorial.
@usabritcouple I could also explain that I find World News hard to concentrate on, as well. The streams being fed on the bottom of the News reports are distracting, as well.
The chord you start and end on defines that songs tonal center.
The lowest note played in a chord defines the nature of the chord.
Ex. If you want to play in Dorian, in the key of C major, you would start the song on the D Minor chord, and end it on the D minor chord, while playing melody in the key of C major. Even though you are playing C major, the D minor chord defines the tonal center of your song.
Try:
Play D major scale over D bass (one note), then C major, maintaining D Bass.
@Dazzerx Either you didn't understand what I wrote, you are don't know what you are talking about.
If you are asserting that you that the tonal center has to the root note of the key, you are missing the whole point of modes. All of your songs will sound the same.
And where did I say to change the tonal center from C to D? WTF?
PRICELESS INFO. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I FINALLY UNDERSTAND!
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area859 2 months ago
actually d dorian is in c major because if u take d major and flaten the third and the 7th what do u get u get all the notes in a c major which is no sharps and flats if u do what i said and lower the 3rd and 7th in the key of d major u would have seen that there are only 2 sharps in the key of d they are f# and c# so what do u know f# and C# are the 3rd and 7th the same thing for the key of c major lower the third and 7th that is the dorian formula then u would see that your in Bb major (Bb Eb)
timsmashuhoe 10 months ago
@timsmashuhoe correct
waltribeiro 10 months ago
wrong d to d is not a dorian scale relative to c, dorian scale relative to c is based on Bb because c is the second note in the Bb scale and dorian is the second mode. so basically a Bb major scale with emphasis on c (home). if using a 1-4-5 progression you'd use C, Eb, F everybody is so messed up on modes. even teachers!???
jobimdream 1 year ago
@jobimdream you're comparing D dorian to C dorian. two different keys
waltribeiro 1 year ago
@waltribeiro my explanation is a good one, you're convinced as everyone else that modes are the same as scales and they are not. fret24 was trying to point out that the tonal center doesn't change and that is exactly why modes are different than scales. most would think a dorian mode for the key of c would conist of the notes in a d scale, wrong again as most are twice as confused. the dorian mode of c consists of notes in the Bb scale. playing 6-2-5-1, 1-4-5...pick ur notes
jobimdream 1 year ago
@jobimdream dorian is the 2nd scale degree of a major scale. So yes, a C dorian scale is in Bb major key, etc.
waltribeiro 1 year ago
I like the tutorials and I understand the reasoning for your "chat mode" (for questions and such), but I find it distracting. If I could I would cut the bottom part of your upload off and just concentrate on your tutorial.
usabritcouple 1 year ago
@usabritcouple I could also explain that I find World News hard to concentrate on, as well. The streams being fed on the bottom of the News reports are distracting, as well.
usabritcouple 1 year ago
@usabritcouple sorry
waltribeiro 1 year ago
@usabritcouple sorry
waltribeiro 1 year ago
At the very end it sounds like he said semen
DietGrape 1 year ago
@DietGrape selective hearing
waltribeiro 1 year ago
Note:
The chord you start and end on defines that songs tonal center.
The lowest note played in a chord defines the nature of the chord.
Ex. If you want to play in Dorian, in the key of C major, you would start the song on the D Minor chord, and end it on the D minor chord, while playing melody in the key of C major. Even though you are playing C major, the D minor chord defines the tonal center of your song.
Try:
Play D major scale over D bass (one note), then C major, maintaining D Bass.
fret2424 1 year ago
@fret2424
This is a help.
JoeClawsy 1 year ago
@JoeClawsy thanks
waltribeiro 1 year ago
@fret2424
Wrong, You DON'T change the tonal centre to D, The tonal centre has to be C.
Dazzerx 1 year ago
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@Dazzerx Either you didn't understand what I wrote, you are don't know what you are talking about.
If you are asserting that you that the tonal center has to the root note of the key, you are missing the whole point of modes. All of your songs will sound the same.
And where did I say to change the tonal center from C to D? WTF?
fret2424 1 year ago
@Dazzerx exactly
waltribeiro 1 year ago
so if i am in c major key and i want to play ionian i need to play a lick that starts in c and ends in the octave of c am i correct?
liamzuid 2 years ago
@liamzuid yes
waltribeiro 1 year ago
PHYRGIAN!
and you spelled Aeolian incorrectly
westboarder 2 years ago
@westboarder sorry
waltribeiro 1 year ago
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westboarder 2 years ago
im actually starting to get this.!!!
kevingp12 2 years ago
Me too! You are a great teacher.
Shaunakde 2 years ago
@Shaunakde you're a great student!
waltribeiro 1 year ago
@kevingp12 sweet!
waltribeiro 1 year ago
great lessons but cant u make vids longer... their so short...
blossomsftwyo 2 years ago
@blossomsftwyo sorry. more tutorials at my website
waltribeiro 1 year ago
Small correction:
Phrygian pronounced "fridge-ian"
MikeInWestVirginia 2 years ago
@MikeInWestVirginia that was driving me nuts hearing him saying 'fidge-ian'.....=)
pip060878 1 year ago
@MikeInWestVirginia i guess.
waltribeiro 1 year ago
dude your a genius, really appreciate your help
nose7962 2 years ago
@nose7962 no prob
waltribeiro 1 year ago
lol i was like wtf, your 15? XD
xGothicBloodx 3 years ago 2
@xGothicBloodx so confused. haha
waltribeiro 1 year ago
Sweet! I'm actually getting it! Those words were like "japanese" to me before. Now they make sense! Thanks Walt!
paradisoparadis 3 years ago
@paradisoparadis paradis! happy new year!
waltribeiro 1 year ago
Once again, great class. Good to have you as a friend on facebook.
cindyvermillion 3 years ago
@cindyvermillion cindy!!!!!! how are you?
waltribeiro 1 year ago