SFIV: Inoue vs Daigo Umehara Set Part 2/2

[Bigsnoop50]

Man I hate "cheap" wins.

[PhantasmXD]

5:08 BULLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII­T

Daigo was getting worked then noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[aaronboi77]

Gotta love that winning wake-up auto-correct shoryuken. Sexiness.

[channelin]

@thesteelorangutan

nope exact translation is 'what the fuck'

[pac26]

Ken vs Ryu was marvelous

[renefak]

im teh 99999 viewer

[anirudhkrishnamani]

YESSSHHH YESSHHHH!!!

[Thindifference]

4:55 Daigo activates his 1337 Hadouken skillz

[Oneilius]

that abel was god awful

[claveaumich]

that hadoken nonsense was ridiculous...

[his1nightmare]

oh they definitely made more money with the console versions, since console players are more interested in SF

just that the leaking was proportional to this fact

I went through all reasons, and NOTHING makes sense

I wrote CAPCOM an email and asked why they don't release it, KINDLY, and they didn't answer

I do not exaggarate, they just fail

first bringing SF4 for PC and then this

thy are lazy as HELL

[his1nightmare]

the final match is the pure bullshit

it points at every aspect why the tierlist of SF4 is stupid

[jordanhead2385]

@his1nightmare How? Diago knew what was going on? He knew Kens trying that crossover and caught him on the RIGHT side watch it over and over you can see the motion in ryu.

[his1nightmare]

still, with any lower tier character he would have lost because not every character can immediately punish such a simple mistake with so much damage, and so fucking easily

[jordanhead2385]

Well you make a point BUT that is what Ryu is all about, punishing for the little mistakes, A good Ryu player you will have to be at your AAA+++ game, he should have nvr tried to cross and been smart, you nvr jump against Ryu.

[his1nightmare]

yeah, the definition of fairness and balance changes from SF to SF

SF3 3S was perfect.. it has the same rivalities in the tierlist, but they are NOTHING compared to the shit some SF4 characters throw into your face by their ultra setups

[antzenpro3]

@his1nightmare go complain to capcom then

[his1nightmare]

do you know what? I did, they DO not answer to critical or wrong questions asking emails

[antzenpro3]

@his1nightmare yeah well its best to try to get some people to sign a petition or something cause if we are to complain about these problems, its best we direct this to the company that made the product not the players

[his1nightmare]

I wanted to, in no way I can accept CRAPCOM to not release SSF4 for PC, and I wanted to go and to get people to start such a petition on their own board

but after the first some who said they will help and do nothing, I was already sure that it won't work anyway

ESPECIALLY since capcom NEVER cared for their customers' opinion

any critique always only saw a blank wall, Devil May Cry 4 is the best example

it's pointless, some companies are just pure shit, others are great

[antzenpro3]

@his1nightmare They arent? They just arent releasing it yet right? Cause that be pretty stupid seeing that they did make some from sf4 for pc...

[his1nightmare]

exactly, they AREN'T

[antzenpro3]

@his1nightmare good thing i have a 360 and ps3 then

[his1nightmare]

unlike some other SF fans

[antzenpro3]

@his1nightmare i want it on the pc as well but if there wasnt that much piracy going on hmm...

[his1nightmare]

it was pirated on the consoles MORE than 10 TIMES MORE OFTEN than on the PC

capcom is just liquid shit, that's all

[antzenpro3]

@his1nightmare No man dont exaggerate...because of the stats from what capcom is seeing thats why they arent making ssf4 for pc prob. If the consoles really made them lose that much money and made more on pc, that would be stupid as a normal person or a business person to come up with this idea

[cornfield444]

liquid shit... sounds funny when you say it repeadetly. liquid shit

[123eldest]

jumped into too many shoryukens

[izidor]

at 5:06 the ultra should hit him...

[Gnabepro]

@izidor Your forget how Lame Kens ultra is and also this ultras arent supers, you generally need to properly set the opponent up to land an ultra unlike the super where you can combo into it from a poke or normal.

[bosoxdanc1]

@izidor No it shouldn't. That's not a proper setup into Ken's Ultra.

[his1nightmare]

it should and it is a proper setup, the best one to be exact, Inoue just fucked up the timing

[DoubleAsian616]

It should, and had the potential too. But the problem is Inoue Panic'ed at the last moment of the kick, Can't blame'em. That hadoken spam was WAY INTENSE, it was either get out the corner and try, or stay there and get chipped off. But I have to say that's probably one of the best Ken's i've ever seen.

[ZRyuKageZ]

maximum spammage by daigo at 5:00

[Siberianhusky89]

That's how you play this game.

[darkhokage]

bleh offsync audio just pisses me off >:(

[luchador888]

Kishmakay its not kara it like Daigo must have used a move and the grapple can gram that move so if he tried a Dragon Punch Inoue can grab the Dragon Punch from the range it has it need imense timeing

[Kishmakay]

I have spotted Inoue performing at least 3 Kara-throws there. One at 4:19, another at 4:26 and the last one at 5:58.

Anyone confirms?

Beautiful matches. Really beautiful.

[mastadev]

@Kishmakay it really looks like it

[graphitesoul]

i am pretty sure those are kara throws kishmakay... they posted a video on eventhubs of kara throw set ups with ken and the animation is looks just like the one that shows in this video...

[bryanz09]

the sounds of this vid are delay. :(

[b0b0dagreat]

wth does bison say when he looses? 'nandate'?

[jackyjack316]

"nandato"- something like what the hell or how can this be.

[b0b0dagreat]

haha cool thx.. always found that funny

[mellouk78]

nandato basically means what the hell

[rmirabelle]

Inuoe's Ken vs. Daigo's Ru: artwork!

[youngbrabbit]

:31 great timing by daigoo

[pryese7]

fallenoneFU is correct a fierce shoryuken would have built him enough meter to do his super.

[bimmerlover4life]

i hate fighting bison cuz they all do that same fucking jumping move

[chiaofucious]

Shouldn't that be pretty easy to counter then??

[ebaGabe]

aint it like you can do a shoryuken everytime against bison? jumpin < shoryuken scissor kick < shoryuken bison pokes < shoryuken

[Anfmethodjor]

5:05, he messed up, should have use the super chain combo.

[corrage61]

daigo is realy good

[ImSoJohnDeleted]

id love to see diago play someone other than ryu for once

[5155470]

ken is so pridictable

[BryanV4]

he has better mixups then most chars lol

[ImSoJohnDeleted]

4:40 - did he just cancel his uppercut move (shoryuken) ?

[fallenoneFU]

5.08 Inoue could've won if he did a Shoryuken->Shoryureppa instead of his Ultra.

[erickphong]

Um, no if you look carefully, he doesn't even have super gauge UNTIL Daigo hits him again. So its either he did what he did, or EX dash cancel his shoryuken into another shoryuken. Which obviously he didn't do.

[fallenoneFU]

Ken's power bar would've been full if he Heavy Shoryuken-ed after the jump-in kick.

[tengai87]

haha damn auto-flip SRK

[xxCHAOTICKxx]

yo that was one of the best ryu VS ken matchups tha i have ever seen

[VerticalSh0ck]

How could Ken cancel his fire Shoryuken at 4:41 ??

[lilkamikazi]

focus cancel

[doodleboi]

Couldn't find FADC on the Flowchart?

[pdrolp10]

look waht m.bison do in 1:35

that's impossible

[hotrod86]

No it's not.

He was charging before/during focus attack, then after crumble the input looked like this

(already charged) b, ff, b, f PPP

the dash forward counts as a forward in the ultra motion as long as you do the b, f PPP very fast

[Aiden1337]

thats KKK hotrod ;P

[spiderfly1014]

L1 FA. Hyper armour absorbed the jump in HK and Inoue anticipated that Diago was gonna try and follow up on the ground. Inoue released MP+MK, the FA strikes early but lands as a COUNTER HIT because of Diago's attempted attack. Diago was probably anticipating that Inoue was going for a L2 or L3 FA.

L1 FA's will crumple an opponent if it lands as a counter hit. You can block an L1 FA as it does'nt have armour break status.

As Inoue anticipated this, he was already charging the ultra.

[KellysterOverdrive]

sometimes someone can defeat daigo but i noticed... its impossible to beat daigo three times in a row or more... cause he has the inate ability to read moves and predict outcome... a true fighting genius...

[lamppshade09]

1:33

how does bison do the ultra after dashing?

[SedoSan]

its supposed to be: Charge backwards, then forward, backward, forward, 3x punch..

so, start by charging backwards, and now instead of doing forward once, do it twice so you will dash, then continue backward then forward then 3x punch and there you go. SFIV accepts this input and starts the ultra animation

[his1nightmare]

awesome how Daigo improved

[TehPwnage1337h4x0rz]

This is an old video, hence being posted September 11, 2008...

[his1nightmare]

I don't know what this does change on the context of my sentence since I compared it to part #1...

[TehPwnage1337h4x0rz]

Well, first of all, I didn't realize that, and secondly, you worded it incorrectly.

[his1nightmare]

allright

sorry then... I'm working on my english

[Oskarovvv]

the ken player is not bad

[Kratos94nb]

good comeback from daigo

He win 3 times consecutively after 2 defeats

[jamil703]

Erm...where is daigo's Ryu...not in this vid!

[whatcarpaltunnel]

Call me stupid but, that's not daigo's ryu

[sniperclown]

nobody is calling you stupid but that is daigo..see the japanese katakana under ryu it is read as UMEHARA

[ajesed]

Yeah and besides daigo is a great player but everybody haves his ups and downs..

[TanookiSauce]

Ken would've had the second round if his last jump-in was going for shoryu xx super... instead he tried being fancy with the ultra and got raped for it =(

[gunzrfun]

how does he preform the charge moves so quickly? I mean dont you have to wait like 2 seconds crouching before you can do another devil reverse?

[maury2000]

You can press down (charge) while you're doing the Devil Reverse.

[umdum08]

While he's still doing the 1st devil reverse he hold on down too so he'd be charging while going a move... atleast thats what i think, i don'y play with charge characters so i'm not 100% sure.

[macnation34]

while hes doing his normals (standing medium crouching light ext ext) hes holding back..but because his hits are confirming...hes not moving anywhere...so hes charging while hitting him...as far as the devil reverse as soon as he goes up..hes holding back again thats why it seems so quick...he knows the timing really well

[zeh0the0don]

Actually no. You can charge ANY attack in mid air, while knock down even while performing another attack. These are the keys to the combos and rushes ;D

[t3chnon3]

daigo's timing is wow....

[MLstroke]

i dont like how´s daigo plays street fighter 4, not imagination, only hadouken, nothing of atack, only counter

[KillaHitman]

you shoulda seen it at EVO... he was beasting!!!

[MLstroke]

yeah but this is street fighter 4 u.u

[KillaHitman]

yeah i know... he played a little more agressive in evo 09... i went, but got knocked in the first round T.T

[Graftin2006]

You dont see the level of spacing, zoning and footsies he's doing because your a fucking noob.

His level of play is insane if you know what any of the above is.

[MLstroke]

In arcade this things are normal xd, noob xD

[AtanasL]

at 0:50 sounds like he says "that's illegal"

made me lol

[anyadat123123]

Ramz18 was totally right... Headpress(headstomp) is the best special move ingame. If the Dictator is good enoguh to use it effectively, he wins almost every matchup. Its hard to charge when the enemy rushes u, and he knows how a charger char usually works...

[xdrugzbunnex]

Diago switching to Ryu which has incredibly easy and mediocre ways to connect his ultra, wow.. what a downgrade. What a noob.

[JuukaRock]

You say that as if the same isn't true for Ken's SAIII in 3S.

Besides of which, Daigo was originally a Ryu player in ST.

But if it makes you feel better, part one has Inoue raping him with Dictator.

[TancerFang]

Such a shame Bison has nothing to fend off shoto's with.

Fireball stops crushers cold and it's really hard to headstomp through a shoryuken.

When you play M. Bison you usually have to work for it.

[Ramz18]

Bison has nothing to fend them off???

Devil Reverse the whole match till you've got meter, a shoto can't touch you out of fear of headstomp.

- EX Headstomp beats shoryuken's

- Fireballs get EX Scissor kicked

- LK scissor kicks safe on block

- MK, HK defeat them ice cold if they try to jump or hadoken

He can turtle the s*** out of them, he has to be rushed down

[paulhindt]

Yeah that requires u constantly have meter.

[Ramz18]

Constantly requires meter?? WRONG

Standing MK, HK, LK Scissors, DR & Stomp DO NOT REQUIRE METER

His MK, HK spacing AND Devil Reverse/Stomp are enough to keep any shoto at bay.

Turtle tactics are second to none + he is one of the more dynamic charge characters who don't mind loosing their charge because his normals are so good.

LK scissor are SAFE if used smart. EX are add ons that make the match that much more

bearable. You see now?

Read what i posted first and you'll see what i mean

[sngoku]

This should be called "The Power of Daigo"

[seb6leal]

and its not that theyre spamming hadokens like so many people say, its more like zoning theyre opponents and using a tool that shotos have, fire balls.

[Udermench]

The Ken player is awesome. Not many pro ken players out there so this is nice. Kara throws an all. good shit.

[MCZandogg]

those kara throws are scary

[darkhider]

Okay from 1:33, after Bison/Vega used focus attack, how can he use his Ultra right after moving forward?

[dhunter703]

So long as you have the back charge stored, you can dash forward, then hit back and forward and the ultra should be able to come out.

[MCZandogg]

ill explain

1. charge focus

2. release focus

3 IMMEDIATLY after releasing the focus dash toward ur oppnent then charge away from ur opponent

4. wait for the crumple.........

5. ultra :DDD

[Nyoronoru]

Incorrect.

1) Charge focus.

2) Release focus.

3) Dash forward and then finish the Ultra motion as if the dash was your first forward motion. It's a nice little game mechanic. You have to be very fast though.

[LilevilWC3]

Also wtf what do you mean even with Kara Command throw ? First off Kara properly all the time takes awhile to practice . zoning is a basic skill that is learned with all characters.

[LilevilWC3]

OMG JUST REALIZED Inoue would've beat DAIGO.

end of Round 2 Ryu Vs Ken

When he jumped in and Ultra'd . If he didn't do the Ultra and combo'd into super he would've won omg.. (also he didnt have super at the time when he ultra'd if he combo'd he wouldve had enough bars for super and he would've beat daigo T.T)

[Noraa3903]

True but just like any of us i think he lost his head a bit near the end of the battle. Hell i doubt a lot of people can keep composure up against Daigo with a chance to win

[LilevilWC3]

lol very true I have trouble containing myself against anyone when low on health.

[DarkStarFist]

Big ups to Inoue's Ken and Bison. If Ken's Ultra wasn't the hardest to get off in the game, Inoue would've won that against the best ryu flawlessly.

[LilevilWC3]

The round where he jumped into Ultra with Ken he was hoping it to hit daigo because if he was crouch blocking and he were to do the fierce into ultra it'd string since he wasn't . I'm sure Inoue wasn't sure if it worked the same way because I only hit it once my whole life in a match.

[berserkerlxl]

I think he was hoping for a counter hit. Because it will chain if it was a counter hit

[fishermanryan]

Why does it say vega as bison?

[fr0zZ3n]

Japanese names

[ShadowDusack]

In Japan, M. Bison, Vega and Balrog are switched around.

M. Bison becomes Vega.

Vega becomes Balrog.

Balrog becomes M. Bison.

If you think about it, M. Bison (Balrog in the US) is a boxer and his name is Mike Bison.

Tribute to Mike Tyson!

But I don't have any idea why they switched the names. Could it be something with Tyson?

[ilovesmashbros]

They WERE planning to call Boxer M.Bison as an cool representation of Mike Tyson BUT... they were about to get sued for it so they changed the names around at the last second.

[HardRuisu]

I would be honored if they named a SF character after me but Tyson had his motives xD!

[ya64]

Yep! I think they didn't want to get sued! I like it better this way.

[CAPCOMMASTER]

Yup, as the others said, they wanted to keep the Boxer as "M.Bison" in USA because of Tyson, but in order to avoid troubles they couldn't. SO...they made changes:

Balrog (JPN, The Masked from Spain) was changed to Vega because of the Spanish sound of that name.

M.Bison (JPN, Boxer) was changed to Balrog to avoid problems with Tyson.

And Vega (JPN, Dictator) was changed to M.Bison....it was the only name left.

...and that's life xD

[ThePieIsFalse]

they arent gonna make SF5 for a while...they are probabaly gonna come out with Super Hyper Street Fighter IV: Championship Edition first

[sleepyedgar]

*they aren't gonna make SF5 for a while...they are probably gonna come out with Super Hyper Turbo Street Fighter IV: The new challengers Championship Edition HD Remix first*

fixed :)

[indarkened]

wat?...lol

[pongking]

LOL! i like that one...

[lanceor090209]

I don't think SF5 is anywhere on the horizon. you will get your money's worth with SF4.

And thanks for telling me about the shinryuken thing, ima gonna try it out now.

[fishermanryan]

How long til they make a SF5 so I know if i will get my moneys worth with this game

[lanceor090209]

Yikes at 5:10 man. The Ken player should know that he can't combo into his shinryuken like that... what was he thinking..

[meatandwad]

actually u can ive seen it and some1 did it to me but u gotta be more quick than that i guess he fucked up

[cocokilla]

yeah u can. try it on training mode noob LOL

[birdman408]

Daigo is overrated

[MrVideoFAIL]

Lil Wayne, Birdman, and the whole Cash money records are overrated.

[th3major]

i gave thumbs up!!!

[MrVideoFAIL]

Me too!

[dragonfx310]

corner combo at 3:34 was vicious.

[gunshow1988]

im a newb platform user needing help if anyone can, at 2:38 how did he pop able up? I dont understand what was done.

[RoCesK19]

It's called focus attack dash cancelling (fadc) its when you do a focus attack in the middle of an attack to cancel it, in this case it was a shoryuken. You perform the move then hit the focus buttons, dash forward, then release the focus attack buttons. Then do whatever, throwing the ultra with ryu is the best. Every character has moves that can be cancelled, but ryus shoryuken to ultra is one of the best in the game and if you watch other Daigo matches he uses it alot

[fishermanryan]

How do you do a shoryuken? Sorry i completely suck at this...and what country is vega from again? How long til they make a SF5 so i know i get my moneys worth with this game

[sniperclown]

do a forward, down, downforward + punch

and vega is from thailand (from orig. 1st SF) they just displayed a shadaloo flag

[fishermanryan]

that's a shadaloo flag? it thought thats a spanish flag, and isn't he from spain (barcelona)

I learned a lot in these 5 days

[th3major]

vega on the american version is from spain.. the japanese vega is bison, which is why it is a shadaloo flag

[sleazyfellow]

you are sticking up for him u are a fan of diego. Listen, even if by slim miracle he beats my rooster I could beat him up, im like EVERYBODY else on the internet, im 6'4 250 pounds all muscle all american boxer/mma'er.....but lets get real, suck diego if you ever see him, Im sure he has fools like u wishing for the chance.

[Leidern]

LOL 5:03

What would Daigo be without Ryu?

[XxRumble]

Daigo has a damn good Ryu, but Inoue gets more props from me because he is a World Warrior. Mixes up the characters, keeps it interesting. His Vega here seemed weaker than what I witnessed in another video where he beat Daigo's Ryu with him twice.

[shogunofyellow]

Ryu seems to get stronger and stronger with every Street Fighter game. How many combos does he have now? It's bullshit. I bet you he'll be the boss of Street Fighter 5.

[crookedson]

He was mid tier in 3rd strike.

[shogunofyellow]

Yeah, and who was top tier? Oh that's right, Ken.

[crookedson]

O RLY?

[subaru84]

and your point is? OH, are you trying to infer that Ryu and Ken actually play anything alike? dumbass.

[jdmpower86]

Ken sucks in this game.

[Darkeh112]

have you seen ken's kara range?

[jdmpower86]

Yes, I just noticed that since you had pointed it out.

No wonder why Ken users throw a lot lol.

[sleazyfellow]

I will beat your dork god diego, with anyone from the rooster, balrogs, da kens, cammy whites, guile smithers.....whoever, you just tell the punk to show up at the designated place, at the designated time, AND I WILL GLADLY DESIGNATE HIS ASS......FOR DISMEMBERMENT.

[thejunkmanlives]

EXACTLY, the people that are neg'in u are retarded. Ryu is so fucking easy to use its fucking depressing. Anyone can do all that fadc shit with ryu with alittle practice. Theres nothing in this game ryu cant fucking do other then teleport and spd.

[dragonfx310]

Ryu has simple, fluid combos that do a lot of damage. Sure anybody can pick him up fast but to zone and pressure efficiently is a completely different matter. With Ryu, you have to force your opponents to give you an opening and that's not always so easy. Easy is like Zangief. The fact that he can kara-grab you with his inescapable command throws is ridiculous. FADC is simple to do but you require meter. Command throws don't and they're inescapable. Go figure.

[thejunkmanlives]

ur kiding right? Zangief has to work his way in to get slams. And with the stages being almost twice as big as previous games gief can have a real hard time to get in range to do anything, if ur close enough for gief to throw u he deserves to get his dmg, that goes double for anyone with a projectile. zoning with ryu aint that bad,u just have to judge distance. if u mindlessly spam fireballs then u deserve to get rocked. Ryu has so many options he doesnt have to force anything.

[dragonfx310]

Banishing flat? Spinning lariat? Both effective moves to close the distance between Gief and his opponent. Not to mention, the spinning lariat now hits crouching opponents too for some odd reason. It's crazy.

[thejunkmanlives]

banishing flat(aka green hand) is very punishable and cant be spamed. And crouching rh beats lariat unless ur balrog, i think it hits him regardless.

[Noraa3903]

Huge disagree. The stages may be larger but also the character models are much bigger so it doesn't really feel like that. 2 banishing flats can get that guy right in your face you barely have time to react. Gief is great for and getting close range to you. If it were that hard he wouldn't be considered such a high tier. On to this video though was a great match Inoue almost took the set came down to the last hit

[thejunkmanlives]

Dude i have never had to chase anyone down in any other street fighter game. The stages are bigger. Takes like 2 jumps to get to the corner in turbo, takes like 4 in this. Green hand is punishable, a well place poke will knock him out of it and take away his chance to get a slam, seriously try it. Plus dont forget we are talking about xboxlive/psn, people fight way different on there. I never seen people runaway or flat out turtle in a tournamet but on consoles its a whole other ball game.

[pyron1985]

How can I do like Inoue at 1.34 ? He used focus attack then dash forward and then Ultra without any charge. Please Help ^.^

[molander16]

u have to be japanese

[cocokilla]

too funny

[InsanityOfTwins]

u can do it the way kobedoe said or u just dash out ur focus and then charge into ultra. It will still hit, though it will do only 3 scissor kick hits insteadof 4